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  • @calebklingerman7902
    @calebklingerman7902 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    This was also a realistic endgame scenario

    • @BlckJack123
      @BlckJack123 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Exactly!! I love puzzles like this. They are realistic and yet full of easy to make mistakes like this one is.

    • @paulldunbar0328
      @paulldunbar0328 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      who leaves e pawn untouched until endgame. unless u mean the concept itself then yes

    • @calebklingerman7902
      @calebklingerman7902 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@paulldunbar0328 I guess you’re right, but the general idea of just kings and a couple pawns is practical. I suppose it could happen though, I play a lot of London system so I start with d4 instead of e4, maybe in some wild game this could happen

    • @harikumars1487
      @harikumars1487 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I agree

    • @LeventK
      @LeventK ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@paulldunbar0328 I move it on the first move

  • @FlowerPotsM
    @FlowerPotsM ปีที่แล้ว +321

    bro turned square rule to triangle

    • @syndrac6254
      @syndrac6254 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      well it takes 2 isosceles triangles to form a square sooo...yea

    • @michalkloucek473
      @michalkloucek473 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Well, it is actually a rectangle formed of two squares with one column overlap.🧐

    • @TekMoliGy
      @TekMoliGy ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@syndrac6254 don't bring socrates into this

    • @TVIDS123
      @TVIDS123 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michalkloucek473actually a square is just a special case of a rectangle 🧐

    • @luqmaanhay4957
      @luqmaanhay4957 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@syndrac6254 isn't it 2 of any of the same triangle

  • @bobibobbobino
    @bobibobbobino ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Easy solution. You go f1 to avoid possible future opposition. King opposition is an extremely important endgame concept everyone should learn.

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, the opposition is KEY in king and pawn endgames very often. But I disagree that this is a distant opposition thing. It's about being able to DEFEND the central pawn if you advance it as black runs toward the queenside pawns as Nelson explained in the video.
      It's NOT like that move prevents black from getting the opposition. The extra pawn is what wins this (if white keeps it), NOT the opposition.

  • @drziggyabdelmalak1439
    @drziggyabdelmalak1439 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Brilliant! At 2:56 though, when the Black King can get into the triangle, why would White keep simply pushing the Pawn ? Why noy have King moves too to defend it?

    • @josiahserrano6651
      @josiahserrano6651 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had the same idea.

    • @ThatCowGuy
      @ThatCowGuy ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Because black would promote their A pawn while blocking your pawn with their king. And as soon as you try going for the black pawn, the black king can take your remaining pawn and the game becomes unwinnable for white

    • @Boudicca-the-musical
      @Boudicca-the-musical 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@ThatCowGuy they wouldn't be able to block the pawn on the e file. The white king could keep them away and promote the e paen begore the black a file pawn could promote.

  • @roblodocus2539
    @roblodocus2539 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Another great one by the mastermind John Crum. And this is a puzzle I could actually remember, and explain to people haha.

  • @matthewgraham2619
    @matthewgraham2619 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    On the d1 version, why not escort the pawn, keeping blacks king away?

    • @floof6896
      @floof6896 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      true, i dont see the problem with that. no 50 move rule either because it doesn't apply to pawns, nor does it specify that its close to 50 move rule.

    • @enderyu
      @enderyu ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You can't keep the black king away (by shouldering), he is too far in front of you. The king will capture your A pawn and then get in front of your pawn to prevent it from queening. Meanwhile you end up having to abandon your pawn to capture the opponent's pawn, or else you lose

    • @yanp9071
      @yanp9071 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Seems like that, but try to play it out, black king is quick enough to get your a pawn and block the other one, no matter how you play. White is 1 tempo too late, that's the tempo he lost when he had to push the king up before a4, because Black would go back and take, because he could box out White, because White played d1.

    • @matthewgraham2619
      @matthewgraham2619 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Starting where black has already captured the a pawn...
      Kd4. Kb6
      Kd5. Kc7
      Ke6. Kd8
      Kf7 blocks black from taking e8 to prevent queening. If, somewhere along the line, black decides to come down to take the pawn, we bring our king back to a position where the pawn can come up to a safe spot. But, all this is just to protect the pawn. Is there a line black can throw in some pawn moves of their own and race us?

    • @enderyu
      @enderyu ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewgraham2619 By the time the black king takes the A pawn your king should already be on d4, (both kings moving 3 ranks up from where they started) meaning the continuation should be something like:
      Kd5 Kb7
      Kd6 Kc8...
      If your king moves to d4 *after* black took the A pawn, then white wasted a move or moved the pawn
      Either way, following the line you mentioned (I'm assuming no pawns moved) then it's just a pawn race and both sides get a queen. Still a draw

  • @BrawlStarsPearl-Stats
    @BrawlStarsPearl-Stats ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2:54 I quite not understand that triangle so I arrow the pawn and the king alternative for easier understanding! 😅 If that's a problem then reply. Im just winning every single pawn endgame where Im not losing (Drawn/Winning).
    Edit: Im not knowing and winning every single pawn endgame, just a lot (not this)

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The diagonal part of the triangle is simply the diagonal of the square the king must be in to catch the pawn (re the square rule). It's just a visualization aid, since the square rule applies to ALL such king and pawn races, the square can be large, this can happen at the END of a longer calculation with trades, etc. To me -- every little trick that helps me not mess up the calculation and be more confident I'm looking at it right is appreciated.
      Oh, even grandmasters mess up some complex king and pawn endgames. There is a whole massive book on them, re the Encyclopedia of Chess Endings, with a bazillion categories.
      And I've seen strong players (like near-experts, the rating class below master) mess up even VERY SIMPLE king and pawn endings, as they got their rating being great at the MIDDLE game.
      So don't feel bad if you don't know every endgame, but if you want to improve, being better at the endgame will certainly help over time.

  • @Bradman1978
    @Bradman1978 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    But what if the Black King just goes up and down to force a draw and stay on the E rank. You are assuming Black is trying to win

    • @anomaly3215
      @anomaly3215 ปีที่แล้ว

      what? it literally says on the video that white to play, are you illiterate?

    • @sh0ker
      @sh0ker ปีที่แล้ว +28

      If the king moves up then the pawn can too and the white king . So it will slowly move forward to become queen

    • @joseantoniorodrigueslopes6979
      @joseantoniorodrigueslopes6979 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Then white will push the E pawn all the way to the 6th rank and then proceed to abandon it to go after black's h pawn and promote the h pawn of his own. He literally explained that in the video

    • @karezaalonso7110
      @karezaalonso7110 ปีที่แล้ว

      He answered this in the video, if you're not sure post the exact line you are asking about.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The white king will keep moving up and protect the pawn as it moves up. You're played chess before correct?

  • @magicsinglez
    @magicsinglez ปีที่แล้ว +9

    No. I’m not so sure it’s a draw. I could lose that game.

  • @tannerarmstrong1496
    @tannerarmstrong1496 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:13 I've tried to incorporate this advice into my opening strategy and have had bad results so far. I'll keep trying though.

  • @rajeevbansal1959
    @rajeevbansal1959 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic puzzle. Thanks for sharing

  • @syndrac6254
    @syndrac6254 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I was thinking that if king to D1 then all the king has to do was stay in front of his pawn and the pawn will promote, but either way the Black king will get in the way.

    • @andremanicke8534
      @andremanicke8534 ปีที่แล้ว

      Was thinking the Same, because as long as the king is in front of the pawn it can always promote. Issue ist that the black pawn can do the same again resulting in a draw.

    • @christopherwellman2364
      @christopherwellman2364 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@andremanicke8534but black pawn wouldn't get across in time

  • @BramCohen
    @BramCohen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Credit to Mr. Crum for searching around for interesting positions in tablebases back in 1913

  • @MyHydralisk
    @MyHydralisk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:05 actually, isn't e3 here is a winning move? Instead of e4 that exposes pawn we play slowly e3 and force black king either to race us with a pawn (which they will not be able to do), or to go into "stalemate' where we abandon e-pawn in the end and go help a pawn.

    • @MyHydralisk
      @MyHydralisk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tested. In this case black has time to get back ahead of E-pawn and stale there while pushing it's own A-pawn in the meantime. Interesting puzzle!

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No, because you lose a tempo. The reason you win going to F1 is that you GAIN a tempo. These things matter a LOT in K+P endings.

  • @briceyokem9236
    @briceyokem9236 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 2:02 what is wrong with the white king chasing the black king?

  • @gustavofiguera
    @gustavofiguera 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nelson you are an outstanding historian.

  • @andywang7262
    @andywang7262 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I have read Endgame Manuel,discuss ing about the theme of this puzzle.
    According to the method introduced in the book,I find that the e-pawn can be pushed at most to 6th rank.
    But I still find this instructive to me,for the reason that I meant to push the decoy pawn to 6th rank to gain a tempo.

    • @gorgit
      @gorgit ปีที่แล้ว

      What? I thought this was a forced win

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@gorgit: It is a forced win, but you have to know how to play it JUST right, and clearly black can try different defensive ideas. That's why practical chess endings are much harder (and more realistic) than just knowing theoretical chess endings.
      (With practical endings, the same fundamentals apply, but extra pawns, for example, might be involved, and you have to calculate their impact on the game, and you have to be PRECISE to play the ending properly with consistency).
      The ending is the ONLY part of chess I'm fairly strong at -- I like the precision and the lack of pure memorization (like the opening) and the lack of random cheap tactical shots in the middle game. IOW, I like the purity of the endgame, as the KNOWLEDGE will separate the men from the boys, so to speak.

  • @swedishpsychopath8795
    @swedishpsychopath8795 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would it be possible to turn on a a hidden radio in the frames of your glasses? So that is is turned off when you use the glasses but is turned ON when you fold the arms of the glasses? What if you also have a small speaker/buzzert in your hollow tooth that turns itself on when you press your tongue against it? OK I'm NOT SAYING that Wesley So is cheating. BUT why is he only using glasses when he arrives the chess arena and removes and folds his glasses when he starts to play?

    • @konroh2
      @konroh2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then why isn't he winning?

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As if conspiracy theorists tend to have an accurate view of how things work, vs. lots of random unproven THEORIES the vast majority of the time. Sans logic. Sans proof.

  • @BobPenzien
    @BobPenzien 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    White King can also move to f4 rather than d4 and still White can win. Likewise, White King can move to f5 rather than d5 and White can still win.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As long as you start with kf1. That was the solution

  • @christopherwellman2364
    @christopherwellman2364 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 2:34, I'm not convinced that it's impossible to get the e pawn across by advancing the king further before beginning to advance the pawn... I'm gonna have to check it out on my chessboard

    • @simpudney8191
      @simpudney8191 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That was my exact thought on first watching it. What did you come up with? Seems quite easy to use white king as blocker to stop black king getting back across to e pawn. I don't think black king would ever go across for the blocked white pawn for that exact reason

  • @hesleyt
    @hesleyt ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm beginner, so my question my sound stupid for the advanced, players, yet there you go:
    On minute 4:59 why black king to E6, not to F5?

  • @GreenBowYT
    @GreenBowYT 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm gonna be honest here, the other lines wouldn't have worked, but you played them like an absolute buffoon 😂😂😂

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The only solution for white to win is kf1 . He shows all the wrong moves but once it's kf1 it's over for black no matter what he does.

  • @davidcase4600
    @davidcase4600 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seems like a bad solution. If black knows how white wins, then he would play for the draw. White, k to f1, black k to f3. Mirror the white king

  • @richardkeller4892
    @richardkeller4892 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Black can force draw by following white queen to each side

  • @QuentinStephens
    @QuentinStephens ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about, after Kd2 you move the pawn to e3, not e4?

    • @ThrawnDidNothingWrong
      @ThrawnDidNothingWrong ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You equally lose a tempo, so the outcome will be exactly the same.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are on the wrong side to defend.

  • @onestupidboi9320
    @onestupidboi9320 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:06 what about pawn e3?

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Play it out. It's a draw

  • @RedBloodAura
    @RedBloodAura ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How is your blood clot doing? Also, nice puzzle!

  • @quigonkenny
    @quigonkenny ปีที่แล้ว

    White can still start with D1 and win, as long as he stays within one of his pawn, but will eventually be forced over to column F and that resultant strategy anyway as long as he's trying to protect the pawn.

    • @faroncobb6040
      @faroncobb6040 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope, the black king can always get back onto the e file and block the remaining white pawn before the white king can cut him off if the white king stays so close to the pawn. If the white king advances ahead of the pawn it can stop the black king from coming back over, but it has to leave the pawn on its starting row to do so and then black just pushes its own pawn to promote to queen immediately after white and draws that way. White has to be able to threaten to move the king up to protect that pawn, but can't actually do so if black doesn't come back without being one move too slow to prevent a draw.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Geez these people suck at chess. It's kf1. After 110 years you probably aren't coming up with an unknown solution.

  • @turbotong
    @turbotong ปีที่แล้ว

    What if at 2:41, white advanced its king first to protect the pawn? White King to D4, instead of Pawn to E4. Black plays King to B6. White King to D5. Black King to C7. White can then go to the E and F columns to protect its pawn. What's wrong with this?

    • @konroh2
      @konroh2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Black K can get in the way preventing the promotion. If the Black K ever gets to the C file the White K can't protect

    • @speedypopoff
      @speedypopoff ปีที่แล้ว

      Problem is u lose tempo and blacks king has enough time to get in a normally stalemate position and/or threaten to promote their a pawn.
      Kd5 Kc7 Ke6 a5 Kf7 a4 e5 a3 e6 a2 e7 a1=Q e7=Q from then on just a bunch of checks until a forced draw by black

  • @jackmclane1826
    @jackmclane1826 ปีที่แล้ว

    What chess software do you use? Because I'd like to repeat some of these positions because I'm not yet convinced (I believe you, but believing is not knowing) that there is not option going left...

    • @kikixchannel
      @kikixchannel ปีที่แล้ว

      Just use literally any grid and any pieces. It can even be a grid drawn in sand with pebbles for pieces...It's not like this grid has any complex pieces or setup.
      Heck, you can even use a some kind of calc program, like Excel, to simulate it.

    • @christopherwellman2364
      @christopherwellman2364 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't you have an actual chessboard?

    • @jackmclane1826
      @jackmclane1826 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Did I ask for a physical chess set? No, i asked for the software!

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jackmclane1826: Use virtually ANY strong program. There are LOTS of them now.

  • @briceyokem9236
    @briceyokem9236 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 2:37 keep pushing the King

  • @krislogy
    @krislogy ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why not King to D3 after D2 instead of pushing the pawn to E4?

    • @speedypopoff
      @speedypopoff ปีที่แล้ว

      U lose tempo on the pawns and their king can force u to draw by pushing their unblocked a pawn

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are on the wrong side to defend. You can't get within a space of the other king

  • @crinolynneendymion8755
    @crinolynneendymion8755 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should have started with an explanation why the pawn doesn't simply capture the King en-passant.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is a joke right?
      That only works against an enemy pawn.

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@laartwork: It's funny how on internet discussions, one can't tell if someone is sarcastic or clueless -- given how many clueless comments often come up on SO many topics.
      Which is why if it's not SUPER obvious, I prefer to use a /s when being sarcastic.

  • @Astrobrant2
    @Astrobrant2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You said 90% of the people would move Kd1. I'll add that 5% of the people would say Kf1 just because it's a puzzle and the most obvious move is almost certainly not the right move. And 4.999% would say Kf1 without having any idea why.

    • @tropicsalt.
      @tropicsalt. ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, I resemble that comment.
      Go the 4.999%ers.

  • @CyberRabid.
    @CyberRabid. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If white moves King to D1 there is no reason for white king to sit still forever thereafter. He must move for with the pawn preventing black king's interception.

  • @Justajawnie
    @Justajawnie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I miss you actually playing games. Content took a nose dive after Peter patzer series ended

  • @jimmears
    @jimmears 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yep. I set it up and won in 13 moves against the computer.

  • @ashoksafaya5397
    @ashoksafaya5397 ปีที่แล้ว

    The rule is square rule not triangle rule , standard king pawn endgame seems to be behind the concept of the problem.

  • @michaelmaestas5039
    @michaelmaestas5039 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was able to win moving K-D1. I suggest playing it again.

    • @mohankathe3332
      @mohankathe3332 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With Kd1, no way. Please illustrate the line. Waiting......

  • @advjayee
    @advjayee 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Move king to d1 and continue at d diognal till promoting e2 pond. Simple end game

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How does white king pass the black king? Please let me play you at chess. I am sick of losing but know a king can't pass another king a file over.

  • @TruthSurge
    @TruthSurge 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why can't black king just step left and right over and over and just not step away from the white pawn in the first place and just get a draw?

    • @themrlace
      @themrlace 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because the pawn is controlling those fields. You can't move yourself into check.

    • @TruthSurge
      @TruthSurge 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@themrlace oh, I guess I was for some reason thinking the white pawn was coming down to the bottom. This is why I lose all the time!!!!

  • @RealShayie
    @RealShayie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if white does go left and only loves their pawn one square instead of two?

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Try it. The black king can block the white kings advancement and the white pawns. I know for a minute you thought you were able to disprove a 110 year solution. But no that's a draw. For the win it's kf1

  • @mohankathe3332
    @mohankathe3332 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chess visualization matters. Actually, without moving a pieces but just calculate both side one with Kd1 and another with Kf1. In tournament there is no take back. Perfect visualization study matters. What say? Thanks

  • @ChibiRuah
    @ChibiRuah ปีที่แล้ว

    I like it. It’s minimalist and counterintuitive.

  • @VanillaLimeCoke
    @VanillaLimeCoke ปีที่แล้ว

    6:27
    Oh man.
    That was crazy.
    It went click.........
    Bererererererererererererererererer
    Click!!!!!!!!
    Almost reminds me of how the clock synced itself back to 9am back in the 5th grade when it was all the way up to 9:35am

  • @Milindsbarve
    @Milindsbarve 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is fishermen story covered on any other channel other than chess adventutes

  • @jbr84tx
    @jbr84tx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After ...Kxe6 white's next move should be Kd4 not e5. Then white can defend the pawn all the way down to 8.

  • @bakersmileyface
    @bakersmileyface 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What if white king chases the black king, pins him to a corner and pushes it's pawn up.

  • @MichaelHarrisIreland
    @MichaelHarrisIreland 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seriously protect your pawn so it's a real threat.

  • @sergeimashkov2022
    @sergeimashkov2022 ปีที่แล้ว

    Solved at once. If black king wants to go after the a-pawn, we should just let him have it.

  • @paride8989
    @paride8989 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:37 what if, instead of pushing the pawn, the white tries to box out the black king?

    • @yanp9071
      @yanp9071 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      try to play it out, black king is quick enough to get your a pawn and block the other one, no matter how you play. White is 1 tempo too late, that's the tempo he lost when he had to push the king up before a4, because Black would go back and take, because he could box out White, because White played d1.

  • @33LB
    @33LB 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1913 is not the year this chess puzzle was conceived. it's paul crum's IQ.

  • @rizka7945
    @rizka7945 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Others: rule of the square!
    Nelson: make a triangle here.

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The triangle isn't that uncommon. I learned that trick in another TH-cam chess video, and was very surprised by it having played literally like 40 years before and not recall seeing that. If the square is big, it really helps visualize it clearly / more quickly for wherever the K and pawn are, IMO.

  • @Andre-fu3ve
    @Andre-fu3ve 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I said, king F1 I pinky promise

  • @johnshaw6702
    @johnshaw6702 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting, my first thought on seeing the thumbnail was Kf1. I'm not sure why, other than I had already rejected the run for the pawns on 'a'. I was thinking that I could probably get the pawn on 'e' to the last rank. I didn't bother to think much beyond that.

  • @AS-lt7jj
    @AS-lt7jj ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not keep playing king up two more squares then use the pawn jump and king can’t get to it in time because our king blocks?

  • @craigcampos
    @craigcampos 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you go d1 then don’t make the pawn take 2 spots and guard the pawn

  • @sabriath
    @sabriath ปีที่แล้ว

    why couldn't you move the king up first before moving the pawn on left side, if he moves back, then worst case you are forced to move other side and it's the same....but best case, he keeps going after pawn, you move king up on more time and now the black king can't come back as the white has trapped him on left side. the distance between white and black pawns are same so white will get queen first and check first....then eventually take pawn stuck on a2
    but ok

  • @fantomghost6213
    @fantomghost6213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yep, picked this one. Thanks

  • @reminderIknows
    @reminderIknows ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i learnt the rule of the square from david's forehead

  • @DerekCroxtonWestphalia
    @DerekCroxtonWestphalia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't have nearly the analyic skills to go through with it, but couldn't you, instead of moving the pawn to e4, move the king to d3? You protect the pawn for a move to e4 next time, and it seems like you could keep the king between the black king and your pawn down the board until the promotion.

    • @konroh2
      @konroh2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Black K can get in the way preventing the promotion. If the Black K ever gets to the C file the White K can't protect

    • @speedypopoff
      @speedypopoff ปีที่แล้ว

      So i did some calculations and I came to the conclusion that if white tried to push the king when blacks king is on c5 black white loses a tempo on the race for white to promote and black to stop promotion.
      Kd3 Kb6 e4 Kxa6 Kd4 Kb6 Kd5 Kc7 and at this point it's unwinnable for white because black can threaten to promote while u try to roll out the carpet for the e pawn or simply get in a normally stalemate position and force u to take their a pawn and it's a draw

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Uh... king can't go to d3 and check himself. He has to stayva square away from the other king so can't protect the pawn... unless the king goes the f1 and now is the black king that can't go on the e file.

    • @DerekCroxtonWestphalia
      @DerekCroxtonWestphalia 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@laartwork I don't know at what point you're talking about, but I meant at 2:05 when the black king is at c5.

  • @yogeshsirbaiya5843
    @yogeshsirbaiya5843 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a win both side , move king to left or either right , it's a win win

    • @konroh2
      @konroh2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, Black K can draw if go left. He can force stalemate. Under analysis the Bl K just takes the other pawn and the Wh K is forced to defend.

    • @rogergeyer9851
      @rogergeyer9851 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ignoring the facts and evidence like a science denier will NOT work well for you in chess, any better than it makes the earth flat for flat earthers.
      Nelson SHOWED YOU CLEARLY why it's NOT a win both ways.

  • @TangoNevada
    @TangoNevada 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How many times has this actually happened to anyone in a game?

  • @shepdogsd
    @shepdogsd 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just keep the king ahead of the pawn, why push the pawn ahead of the king REGARDLESS of D or F row?

    • @renedekker9806
      @renedekker9806 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because in that case, the black king has time enough to capture the pawn at a7 AND get back to e8 to block the white pawn there.

  • @gdigoroaragedon
    @gdigoroaragedon ปีที่แล้ว

    But what if at start of this position black just takes opposition every move

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He can't do anything to stop you from promoting the pawn if you go to f1. Your pawn has a free run to the top with the king protecting.

  • @tykemorris
    @tykemorris 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had a 50/50 chance for the right answer and still wrong. I figured it was Kf1, but I didn't know why.

  • @richardpaling600
    @richardpaling600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You've put your pawn in front of your king! If you protect the pawn by making sure it's behind the king at all times surely this is a win for white regardless of which side you go?

  • @donj2222
    @donj2222 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why not try to put the WK ahead of the P like normal?

  • @mikechesmer5682
    @mikechesmer5682 ปีที่แล้ว

    King to d1, you can alternate king and pawn and still win.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh wow. You disproved a 110 year old solution. ... or just maybe... you didn't fully think it through and if you Played it out you will see it's a draw as the black king can easily block the white kings advancement since you know how king can't move into a check situation. Since he has to move it means he has to move the pawn...nevermind . Just play it out and see.

  • @harikumars1487
    @harikumars1487 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice puzzle, enjoyed it

  • @davebrown6552
    @davebrown6552 ปีที่แล้ว

    with D1 could you not push the king in front of the pawn so that just before the king takes they pawn on a6 you start pushing the pawn so it gets to the end first.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can't push the white king if the black king blocks him

  • @ironpin7949
    @ironpin7949 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for video

  • @BruceLinderDPT
    @BruceLinderDPT ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I dunno. I've tried it a few different ways, and slow walking the king/pawn succeeds whichever way the king first moves. It might be important for the pawn to always advance only a single square at a time. Not sure about that.

    • @MrNoam64
      @MrNoam64 ปีที่แล้ว

      You were giving yourself chances then, this is computer solved

  • @DanielWalvin
    @DanielWalvin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No catchy music at the end of the video? 😮😢
    I mean, not gonna lie, it was almost always too loud compared to the rest of the video, and had to be turned down (unless the video was on quietly), but still, I really hope it's not gone for good! Just, if it comes back, not as loud in relation to the videos would be good! 😅

  • @m.k.685
    @m.k.685 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant black just force draw with Kf3?

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      King not allowed to put himself in check bro... the pawn... at e2.

  • @tottenvillelegend826
    @tottenvillelegend826 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love your puzzle videos!! ❤❤❤

  • @transklutz
    @transklutz หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rather than keep rushing the white pawn (why are you youngsters in such a hurry?), keep moving the white king up as a protective barrier for the pawn, and then move up the pawn behind it?

  • @badguy4216
    @badguy4216 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pls more tournaments

  • @KraggHC
    @KraggHC ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Side note: You should move your microphone slightly to the side, so your plosives do not fire directly into it.

  • @chaimingyang5706
    @chaimingyang5706 ปีที่แล้ว

    triangle is very intuitive

  • @fauxnoob4157
    @fauxnoob4157 ปีที่แล้ว

    A great practice for king & pawn endgames.

  • @ZyliahWar
    @ZyliahWar ปีที่แล้ว

    This is one of those things that confuses me about chess puzzles. The winning play assumes black will move toward the other white pawn, but the black king could just shadow the white king and force a draw, right? I do OK with puzzles where you have to find the moves that force your opponent into certain plays, but I don't get these where it's you have to assume the opponent will play a certain way when it isn't necessary they do so.

    • @SparkSovereign
      @SparkSovereign ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The pawn controls the squares you would want to be on for opposition, so the black king can't mirror the white king exactly. If the black king moves down to stay adjacent to the pawn, you move up to establish opposition and safely escort it up the field since the pawn prevents them from moving into opposition from your next destination.

    • @ZyliahWar
      @ZyliahWar ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SparkSovereign Yeah... the black king can't move left and right. I, uh, I missed that. I'm not good at this! Thanks for the answer, though.

    • @yanp9071
      @yanp9071 ปีที่แล้ว

      But White has another pawn very close to queening and if Black doesn't take it and just blocks the e pawn, at some point White is going to abandon it and go after the black pawn. Black can try to stop him or he can keep blocking, he can't do both. One of White's pawns will queen

  • @BruceLinderDPT
    @BruceLinderDPT ปีที่แล้ว

    This game is a draw if the black king stays on the 3 row and just mirrors the white king's first move.

    • @ozelot131
      @ozelot131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      he can't stay on the 3 row, the pawn defends it

    • @BruceLinderDPT
      @BruceLinderDPT ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ozelot131 Oof, I forgot that today. I remembered it yesterday, but I completely S--t myself today.

  • @Chomta
    @Chomta ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like john crum without r 😩😩😩

  • @vedantsingp
    @vedantsingp ปีที่แล้ว

    d7+ Kd8
    And then abandoning the pawn by playing Kf7 will also lead to a draw I believe!

  • @GheorgheStanciu-v1y
    @GheorgheStanciu-v1y ปีที่แล้ว

    3:38 just keep pushing the king not the pawn

  • @Link_724
    @Link_724 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the only reason I solved the puzzle as fast as I did is I watched GothamChess for the past 6 months. As much as I haven't played chess in years.

  • @richardcasey4439
    @richardcasey4439 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing puzzle. I’ll bet there are situations where this logic works

  • @tullochgorum6323
    @tullochgorum6323 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Guessing Kf1 was relatively easy, because Kd1 wouldn't make for an interesting puzzle! In a game situation, on the other hand...

  • @spinograph_art
    @spinograph_art ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what reality mean

  • @glowingfish
    @glowingfish ปีที่แล้ว

    I guessed the right move because I guessed the counterintuitive answer!

  • @SamuelPearlman
    @SamuelPearlman ปีที่แล้ว

    I was so close to choosing the correct first move!!

  • @msjoanofthearc
    @msjoanofthearc ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @NJDJ1986
    @NJDJ1986 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now i know king on F1 was the winning move all this time!

  • @redpacific359
    @redpacific359 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Realistic position, not puzzlistic😂😂

  • @andrewandsueniemeyer6958
    @andrewandsueniemeyer6958 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was thinking d1 and then attempt to box out the king and advance your pawn

  • @Tharosthegreat
    @Tharosthegreat 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah i dont go with this ..white can just move the pawn one step... and just defend

  • @darrengilbert7438
    @darrengilbert7438 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool puzzle

  • @farouqbaiti4315
    @farouqbaiti4315 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank God I said Kf1.
    I got all the other moves correct.Because I am smart.

  • @yogyasuri9348
    @yogyasuri9348 ปีที่แล้ว

    bobby fisherman series episode 41?