Shuck all the things.. 10TB WD Easystore drives...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ส.ค. 2024
- I get my hands on some cheap Hard Drives from Best buy, courtesy of Western Digital Easystore 10TB external drives. So of course, I have to shuck them for my server :)
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That intro was the cringiest thing i’ve seen in awhile
Lol.. amen
I am very anit-bullying but that made me want to pull his underwear over his head and push him into a locker.
7 months later and I agree
Chris Lopez almost made me instantly dislike the video and not even watch it
😂
Having done this myself I would at least recommend shucking one carefully and keeping the box. I was really thankful I did when I got some 4TB drives last year and one died after just a few days and then another a couple months later. It just made returning them and the exchange so much easier.
FYI if you do sata to molex converter it bypasses the third pin issue on usb drives. You can pick them up on rosewill eBay store for cheap
Easy way to disable 3.3 v pin is use a short SATA extension or splitter wire that only has 4 wires (2 black 1 red and 1 yellow), splitters with 5 wires (i.e. they have an orange wire) will not disable the 3.3v
Please, do a video changing the parity drives in unRAID. Its always good to see someone doing, just to increase the confidence level. Thanks!
Make video of changing out drives in zues
And the swap in unRAID...
Ah the smell of new drives. The air freshener of geeks
yep, my heart skipped a beat when you bumped those stacked drives at 7:22. I thought it was going down to the floor. 30 seconds after ruining the warranty/return option :D
I didn't even notice! haha wow close one.
pro tip: watch series on flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching lots of of movies these days.
@Jamie Darren Yea, I have been watching on flixzone for years myself =)
@Jamie Darren Yea, I've been using Flixzone for months myself :)
Haha, like a kid in a candy store with all those TBs in your grasp, I totally get it.
Happy to watch and learn from someone this happy over sweet, sweet storage. The shuckin-destruction was entertaining. Thanks.
Did anyone watch this video (the first time) and think that poor Jason was going to slice himself open with that knife play?
[ Today, I rewatched bez BestBuy has same sale, and I sure didn't remember him swinging that knife as freely before ... ]
Can you make a video on how you migrate drives on unraid
you take the partity drives out and replace them with new once then let them recalculate the new parity and done
I think you can see the model number in crystal disk info when you plug them in normally
Bought two of these for my DS218+. Shucking was way easier than I anticipated. Good stuff!
Did you have to disable the 3rd pin to get them to work in the DS-218+, or did they go right in?
These were $180 a few days ago at bestbuy
Yeah, they are that cost now today.
Nice video!
I like 9:09" advice
Thanks for the upload!
I use my old x79/3930k system for my blue iris system, that's all it does. And have a separate media/data server too.
I did sorta the same thing, re-purposed an old case that had a first gen Intel i7, Blue Iris runs nice & smooth, it likes being by itself❕ made a nice stand-alone system for all my security. I have a computer/networking room in the basement with a patch panel rack switch, server, nas and a security system rack with POE power switch. All my routers, cable modem & ups are rack mount, pretty much like a small business.
Real feedback. No point in making a video that you do not provide an ounce of insight. This video would have been valuable if you showed how to open the drive, which pin to disable in the event the drive won’t function, or just simply been entertaining. All of these things would have been figured out by a layman ripping apart a drive.
1:38
Corkymcbutterpants- I’m aware of that moment in the video. Still a time wasting if I have to wait until 1:38 to figure out how to use a pocket knife to break plastic. The white label drives also do not work in all computers, if the 4th sata power pin provides power, then it disables the drive, and it won’t spin up. Easy to fix with tape but he also made no mention of that either.
@@cb253 So you're aware that it isn't a tutorial video?
Are you also aware that passive/aggressively telling him what _you_ think the content should be, won't actually affect said content?
@@CorkyMcButterpants Actually I made my intent clear. Feedback is given for the purpose of improving future outcomes. Facts don't care about your feelings. Grown-ups in society feed and thrive off of feedback. If I told him that I didn't like the sound of his voice, that would be useless feedback, if I told him his video was lacking specific substance than he can use that for improvement. You viewed the feedback as passive aggressive and negative, I'm sure a person of his caliber grew from it.
You know you could just sell those Sata adapters on eBay for like $10, I mean I know you have no use for them but $10 probably end up quickly depending on how many hard drive to shuck
Just shucked my first external harddrive, but got a 10TB Mybook direct from their student store. I think I paid $167 combining BF and student discounts. Was direct plug and play, no tape or adapters needed. Asrock x370 MB, Ryzen 7 1700.
these drives are cheaper still at $160 currently. Are they comparable to a standard drive?
I believe that him not really needing these drives lasted only a few months.
do you know / can you check if the controller board encrypts the drive? last I heard it was only "MyBook" that used controller board encryption and not easystore. should be able to test it with any 3.5" I don't think the controller will care.
This if fine if you don't want a warranty on those drives. The Western Digital website (support.wdc.com/warranty/packinginstructions.aspx) clearly says:
Removing the hard drive from a Western Digital single unit external enclosure will void the warranty.
Whats the negative to this? There has to be a catch right?..
YES...Best Buy has the Easy Store for 179 on Black Friday... im totally going for it! I need to consolidate and this would be perfect to help consolidate all my data.
I got that drive last week and shucked it. It looked like the same drive and i didn't have to tape off pin 3. The drive just worked for me.
Nice. I got an 8TB in September and I had to tape off the pin. Nice to know there are still some white label drives out there that do not require a "mod" to work internally.
The reason to keep the case intact is for the warranty. A very good reason IMO. A bit disingenuous to say there is no reason to keep.
Put an old 1TB or smaller drive and sell it?
It's a WD so you can try to register the drive on their website for your warranty. I got all my reds and blacks registered, you know exactly how long your warranty is still up 😉
I don't think the word disingenuous applies here. You comment about Jason being disingenuous was a bit disingenuous though.
don't need the case for wd warranty
Really? Can you confirm that you've done this and it worked for us? WDs own website disagrees with this under it's "packing and shipping instructions" under warranty replacement.
support.wdc.com/warranty/packinginstructions.aspx
This guy doesn't care about safety. Look at the way he handles the knife.
8:00 Tech channel without a spudger. "PC Hell" or no, there's going to be a day where that knife is going to slip past whatever you're prying open and you're going to stab yourself right in the nutsack. That'll be the real hell. lol
So last Blackfriday season. I did the old gift card "careful removal " of three 8tb Best Buy Easystore 8tb drives and swapped them into my 5bay Drobo. Then I installed the 2tb drives back in the Easystore enclosures and sold them on Craigslist for $40 each since I had no real use for them. So that I paid about $95 each to upgrade from 2tb to 8tb drives. But his method does take much less time and effort.
Yeah please make a video on that power issue.
It's usually not an issue if you are using a SAS bay system, or some sort of hot swap drive bays (like on the Roswill 4U case). If you are installing it in some sort of standard tower you will need a MOLEX female to SATA male cable(s) per drive. Or short that pin, or whatever. I lucked out cause I have the same 24 bay server as Zues, and also the same Roswill 4U 12bay hotswap case that Jason has. I was a head of him for a bit there on total usable storage on unRAID, but he may have caught up, or passed me by now. :)
Do you think that pin would be an issue in a Synology?
Yes yes yes make video about power fix
All you need to do is tape off the 3.3v pins with Kapton tape or similar, and it will work. Don't use a Molex converter, it's a fire hazard.
@@eaglescreech I got the tape putting mine together in the next couple of days
Can I have my 15 seconds back? That's about as much of this as I could put up with.
Now that’s what you call a Halloween video 😂
They are still $179 on bestbuy's website January 7th 2019
The PB drive is coming for all
what really makes you a monster is not enjoying the plastic film on the casings.
In case you want to know what model drive you got before shucking you can run CrystalDiskInfo from windows or just connect the drive via USB to Unraid and it should show you the model. If it doesn't, you can run either of these commands in a Linux terminal or the Unraid terminal.... ls -lah /dev/disk/by-id/ or hdparm -I /dev/sdX1 | grep 'Model\ Number' (replace the x in sdx to whatever drive letter the USB drive was assigned). I found this info on Reddit a while ago but unfortunately, I can't find the link to the post anymore to give the person credit.
It’s the orange wire on the Sata power it’s 3.3 volts I just remove it from my sata power cables
i think wd easy store in US is same as wd elements in EU, because there is no easy store drives here, correct me if im wrong since the enclosure is similar just no ''wd easy store'' logo at front - just while led in the middle
Please help ?!? I got 2 , when plug in in to pc nothing no power , can’t boot up . You mentioned something about pin removal?
What's the RPM on the WD100EMAZ? I don't see it on the specs @4:57
However, I do see it's still the 256MB Cache. Thanks for the close-up shot.
5400RPM
Was anyone expecting those White lable drives to become Red lable drives when he stabs himself? :-D
The problem isn't the warranty, it's the encryption. There's efforts to fish the key out but i can risk my data on 3rd party support.
Hi, anyone know exactly how much space is actually on the 10tb when you first get it?
9.09 TB. Or you could also use calculator on this site (pretty much the same result): www.endmemo.com/data/diskcapacity.php
You could split the partition of the 10 terabyte drives so you have any terabyte and a 2 terabyte / whatever's leftover.
but I imagine you've already replaced them if you're going to do it at all.
Specifically you could make the one terabyte drive the default backup, even when you partition 8 of the terabyte drives out you make sure that the two terabytes leftover are the faster ones on the edge of the disk.
if you don't know I'm talking about there's programs that scan of the speed of all of the sectors on the drive, and because it spins at 7200 RPM or whatever the ones physically on the edge of the disc spin faster giving it a faster speed.
You could put things on that drive that are not necessarily that important like stuff you have backed up on the cloud or movies that you're probably only going to watch once.
I tried to post this to reddit but perhaps because new user there not posting.
Just curious if anyone has run into case where they shucked an EasyStore 10TB (WDC WD100EMAZ-00WJTA0) and found the optical cable was missing. Just odd. This is the 2nd EasyStore that I've shucked in the last couple of days and just noticed that. looked around on the floor, etc and didn't see anything.
Guess must be a QC issue with WD in Thailand as the box was sealed as received from BestBuy. I don't need the light flashing on this particular drive since I shucked it and worst case I guess if I ever had to send back to WD I can take the optical cable from the first shucked drive and rebuild it (however Jason from Byte My Bits said he sent the bare drive back and they sent him a WD MyBook 10TB).
Anyway just finished doing an extensive examination attached to the computer and shucked the drive and now in my NAS running badblocks and SMART tests on the two drives.
I have a 3rd one to shuck but I'm out of room in my NAS so I'll keep it as a desktop drive until I have to replace one in the NAS.
I would love to get a case and the USB Controller :|
Do the 8tb My Book’s use Red drives that would work well for a Plex? I’ve seen mixed notes.
The one you did is an Easy Store and not a My Book. I’m not sure if that affects what drive they use.
I agree with you, I just opened one up just used my hands to pry it opened very flimsy come apart with no effort most will not keep the shell so who cares if the clips break
Those are not RED drives... they're actually like the HC510 or the He10, which has the helio seal (helium nom nom) is mmmuch better than freaking red drives!! :)
The larger reds are helioseal
If performance and number of drives are less important for the same (or better) price you can pick up 2 5TB 2.5in 11mm drives. Less power consumption, less heat, less noise.
SATA ports become scarce when your server grows. You'll quickly start spending money on extra controller cards and a chassis with the mounting space to accommodate twice the drives on servers with lots of storage. This also introduces twice as many points of failure as before for the same space. Other than that though, with a small server it would work just fine.
@@mark2220 With 2.5" drive speeds USB3 isn't bad and one can buy sata multipliers pretty cheaply. But yes, it's a balance. I've a 12 x 8TB + several other drives and it's just one 4 port SATA card with 4 4 bay ESATA enclosures plus some USB3 2.5in drives. A 7 port, two controller USB3 pcie with a couple powered hubs would probably work similarly with all 2.5in drives.
SMR drives sure..... "RED" drives no
Does not this void the warranty? So I am only guessing that the "cringing" is because the warranty is being tossed out? Yep... your the smart one alright
Great video as before, by the way, do you need a phone holder or car charger?
you should do the dedicated blue iris server and use that as a lab
It's already been said but please make a video of you swapping out your cache drives. I have a similar setup (unRAID, billion drives) and I would like to see if you have any issues because I will be buying and shucking as well. Thanks for your Plex and hardware vids!
How do I get to the drive head in my MyBook drive? I believe mine is stuck or something
Would never have considered this. Thanks!
this video is for anyone having problems with their drive not being recognized by their computer. the video explains how to make your computer recognize the drive. th-cam.com/video/9W3-uOl4ruc/w-d-xo.html
if you read the comments someone mentioned that he removed the 3rd pin with a toothpick and it took care of his problem. the person in that created the video comments back saying thank you for telling him that because he never thought of using a toothpick to resolve the problem with the drive.
Will data be preserved when removing hdd it from its external enclosure?
thanks for making this video.. and spawning the idea to buy these
Awesome, great job... only a question ... how do you perform the drive test before removing the disk of enclosure? do you use "surface test" option in program "minitool partition wizard" or another test software? ... thanks in advance!
I bet fingernail polish would cover the third pin well as its varnish based dries very hard my girlfriend spends alot of time getting off he nails to repaint new colors it's tough stuff
How would you go about burning in the drives before shucking the drives? I have 6 to burn in before installing in my server
I was thinking of using these for a synology DS NAS... but wonder if they’ll work and if the third pin needs deactivated
a lot of people save everything for hobbies. a good case can be used in a lot of things.
I opened the Easystore 8TB and both are White drives WD80EMAZ from Thailand. Anyone know if there will be an issue in using in the WD MyCloud PR2100?
Can I transfer files to the external drive before removing from shell and placing in NAS?
Di you needed to do something with the third pin with the sata for it to work? or the power connector?? Just bought one and i need to know this. Before i do the shucking.
There is a Blue Iris setting per camera that is something like "decode only when needed" which DRASTICALLY reduces CPU utilization. Try that first.
what server or case is that at 0:12 in the intro loosk really cool, let me guess orico?
Thanks for the video Jason. As always, very entertaining. How much space are you up to now on Zeus? I was gonna buy a couple of those 10TBs for my own unRAID server, but I can't justify spending money on drives when I still have 18TB free.
I need a special screwdriver to remove screws from the drives?
I have been running my plex server of my gaming rig for months now, and I want to get something less powered. It is only going to be me using it while I am at work so I do not need alot of encoding. Would you recommend a qnap nas or synology ds418?
So I have shucked my first hard drive. I have only tested in a dockting station, where it works. Does that mean I don't have to worry about the third pen or can I only test it directly in a computer?
I can't test it for about a week or so, so I'm planning to get some more hard drive in the mean time...
That does NOT mean that you don't have to worry as the power connector inside of the dock probably does not power that pin anyway. You may still have issues installing into the PC with an actual SATA power connector.
For virtualization proxmox and a real raid1 or raid10 is better than unraid , unraid writes can become a problem for vm's. I use unraid for cheap protected storage 😊🔆🔆🔆
We want to see the blue iris & behemoth build & install. From start to finish with Zues or 5960x deedicated blue iris boxwith the 3rd pin power hack.
cool vid man, keep them coming!!
I bought 4 cyber monday 2018 for $179 each ive used these as a raid 5 with a raid controller thank you
Post the drive model please. People are trying to avoid getting fucked by smr/2nd rate drives.
Whats the model inside?
oddly satisfying
How do these compare to WD Red?
Thoughts on the Quadro P2000 GPU for transcoding in Plex?
What do u not need the power supply anymore
Cutting up a credit card and separating the case was very simple. Doubt Ill ever need it but anyhow. Added 2 of these to my Qnap nas, worked perfectly. Gotta quit watching your videos, keeps making me want to spend money on stuff. lol
Do you have to tape anything (because of the 3.3V issue) when using these drives in the QNAP? I have a TX832 and was wondering about that.
@@sgunes I did not have to do the tape trick on my qnap TS251+
Why PC power supply doesn't work but Nas case does ?
NAS case does not use fully populated power connector that a true PC power supply does.
You are so funny (6:55) and entertaining. That's why I love your channel. Getting to be best Tech Channel on TH-cam ...
Thats allot of porn dude
What is the rpm of these hard drives?
i'll be doing this soon, but only 2 drives.
for 10TB easystore drives, what western digital drives is installed? isit a nas harddisk or regular harddisk?
they are white label. since WD hasn't released any data on them we don't know.
Didn’t you get a bunch of 32gb flash drives as well in this bonus pack?
yeap
Isn't it true that the only difference between blue, red, black, and purple is a firmware update? Buy cheap and flash them yourself and save money.
Can I have the. Case.? Please
I guess you lose any warranty on these drives?
my trick is to cleanly remove at least ONE drive from its enclosure and keep it and the parts. You can then always reassemble it and send it in for warranty.
Are you buying it at 179.99?
hey just wondering .... what are you gonna do with the old 8tb drives?
and one more thing if only want to have data bacup /plex nas ho much ram do i need ? right now i have 16 ecc ram and 16tb drives a 1tb hybrid drive for cache
Question, I'm a noob but I enjoy Plex, I've been thinking of getting PlexPass, is it true that with PP one can use cloud storage like google drive or NAS storage and no need of personal PC on all the time ? thanks in advance.
The feature you are referring to is called Plex Cloud - it was discontinued and no longer available for any user - standard or Plex Pass
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...when I was a kid mama would by a bushel basket of 🌽 and I would help her "shuck" it...I'm not sure how I got here...I don't remember searching for "how to shuck a bushel of hard drives"...now that I'm here...why not just buy a 10tb drive and dispense with all this "shucking"...anyway...is this guy auditioning for the Comedy Channel ❔ 🤣