Better than Disney+: Jellyfin on my NAS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 พ.ค. 2024
- Jellyfin's an awesome open source home media server. I'll show you how I use it to organize my movies and TV shows.
Part 1 (how I rip media to my computer) here: • Time to UNSUBSCRIBE fr...
Also check out this blog post where I go into a little more detail why I chose Jellyfin over Plex: www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/202...
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Contents:
00:00 - This deal's getting worse all the time!
02:07 - Aren't Blu-Rays expensive?
03:26 - I am not a lawyer (breaking DRM)
04:41 - Live transcoding and 30 fps
05:32 - Managing your media library
06:17 - NAS setup
07:53 - Jellyfin setup
10:28 - Organizing your media
12:24 - Advanced organization
13:24 - FBI raids?
14:37 - Dad Jokes - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
This video is absolute garbage. Halo the TV series was entirely faithful to canon and I loved the time when we finally met Master Cheeks!
😂😂😂
Halo TV series was a poop.
And I know Couse a watched every second of all apisodes! I know what I am talking about.
And I even started talking about horrible costumes. nut steering and poor performance. that desert girl didn't even need to exist. Low budget series with shit script can't...
Coming from Tom Nook, this sounds more like a threat
The scene where Master Chief looked at Cortana and said "May the force be with you" made my heart swell up with joy.
@@JeffGeerling I loved it when he was all like "Cortana, I am not your FATHER"
The worst part of the streaming age is that a lot of shows and even some movies have started not coming on physical media at all.
Don't watch em, don't subscribe. Don't reward them for denying physical media
Experiencing FOMO never killed anybody
Just like PC Games
🏴☠️
They want everything in a virtual world so they have total control.
People need to work at getting over their FOMO.
I was in the military and we amassed about 5,000 DVDs and Blu-Rays over my 28 years of service. I was deployed 7 times and always managed to take some movies with me along with a portable player so we could watch something on down time. Anyway, we cut cable TV about 6 years ago. My son and I digitized my entire collection using 4 old laptops and now we have a 72 TB server with all the movies and TV shows you could imagine. It is insane how much we have to watch whenever we want to watch. I, especially, like older TV shows and movies. We use Plex but came to see what this Jellyfin thing is. My wife now goes to yard sales and picks up old movies and TV shows on the cheap and we add those to our collection too. So far, we have managed to fill up right at 45 TB of storage. Luckily, I am handy and we can build a second server if needed as we continue to add content. I think our biggest problem is that I tend to keep entire runs of shows on the server in case I want to watch them again. I have watched Justified, Stargate SG-1, Battlestar Galactica, and Stargate Atlantis over and over and over again. Start to finish. Great video. We do have an antenna and Tablo so we can catch some shows now too. I have figured out how to record them on the Tablo then remove commercials and then rip them to the Plex. That lets us continue to add current seasons that we like.
Man I've seen sg1 like 4 times, and am on my 3rd run of Atlantis 😂. They never get old, and if enough time has gone by ive forgotten enough details that its fresh again. Same for lost. I need to take a page from your book and build out a server full of my favorite stuff, and stuff I even MIGHT be interested in. Can always delete something if its lame
Epic collection, don't let that go anywhere!
Yes Yes YES!
You should create your own streaming service to a few people and make money from it lol. Bit risky though if you get caught.
dont let the FBI catch you bro
The people who say this is too expensive forget that the media you buy is yours forever. As long as you keep proper backups; the media you bought will never go away. There's no dealing with the streaming site removing content or going down. You have all of your things whenever wherever.
Ownership of things you buy, such a concept these days *sigh
Will until the disc rot / data rot sets in... then you're fucked...
@@bobtom1495 Disc rot on Blu Ray is estimated between 20 to 50 years. His process also shows you how to make backups of the media. And then if there was truly something you wanted functional on disc... Well you'll probably be able to find it cheap online.
A lost art.
@@bobtom1495 When you make backups on harddrives the data doesn't get damaged. As long as you make sure to backup to multiple/newer harddrives instead of waiting for the drive to fail, you won't lose any data.
Thanks, i always wanted a good front end for all my "legally and totally ethically obtained movies" and this seems really cool so I'll give it a try
"legally and totally ethically obtained"
I see I am in the presence of another skilled sailor of the high seas, tally ho to you sir or madam, and safe travels on your digital journeys!
😏😏😏
It's okay - stealing usually implies that you took someone from someone else. Victimless.
@@gwils7879 And even then I think Disney, WB and other billion dollar movie companies will financially recover from the "lost" sales
due to the amount of time I have spent on the internet this week, I read this comment as "Ethnically obtained movies" and immediately began thinking "Hmm a likely story" .
What does that even mean? I don't know, who even knows? Why is the internet so retarded now
anyway I'm not a pirate or anything, haha, that would be weird right, you wouldn't steal a car right
I moved from a 3-bedroom house into a studio apartment. Saving space was a must. I took my five XL Uhaul boxes of DVDs and blue-ray and started the encoding process. I used an old Pentium 4 Dell with three optical drives to rip, encode, label, and organize the whole thing for about 6 months. Now everything resides on a 6-bay Synology. It was one of the best investments I ever made.
How long did a dvd take to rip?
@@thebrokenhomes assuming the 5 XL Uhaul boxes weren't an exagerration it took about a bit over a month per box, no idea how many dvd's fit into one of these, I'm not american and we don't have uhaul here in europe but i guess with cases like 100 dvds maybe? stuff like this is why you see people wanting to get a case that has as many 5.25" bays in the front as possible to fill with dvd drives to rip as many dvds in parallel as possible
"It's Stupid, but It's The Law" sums up copyright/IP law in its entirety
The worst part about copyright is how long it lasts.
Patents? ~20 years.
Copyright? ~100+ years.
I am like dude does a computer game released in 1980 really need exclusive rights until ~2080 to turn a profit?
How do we let this happen? And how do we fix it?
@@kwinzman Specifically, 17 years for patents and 99 years plus 50 years after the author's death for copyright. Since we've foolishly allowed them to have corporations as copyright holders, the author will never die. How do we fix it? Well, since the law only gets dramatically changed by money in the hands of politicians or revolutions, I think we all know it won't get fixed.
@@kwinzman Blame disney for making it like that
Most laws...
Agreed and Hollywood's gotta make money somehow. :-/ 😢😂
This is excellent. As a physical media collector, this is absolutely game changing. You rock!
I truly enjoy watching your videos Jeff, there is an underlaying set of values you adhere by, that make your videos not only entertaining, but also productive and educational. This video is specially designed to get rid of of those services plagued with meaningless content. Much appreciated !
The look of this guy tricks you into thinking he is a smart nerd. Until he talks.
It would be great to see DIY alternatives. Like compare costs of building a NAS vs buying off-the-shelf, comparing open-source NAS OSes ,etc.
It really is a huge pain to sort out NAS OSes. I've got an HP N36L that's been a pain in my behind to find a good choice for. I had OMV on it for a while but the developer support for it has been dogwater for the better part of the last few years, I'd rather not have to pirate even the OS so no xpenology, but unraid and FreeNAS seem to be a bit much for the dinky embedded processor on this now 10 year old cube.
I think it also depends if you can cram other stuff onto the PC too (which may not add much more electricity than the base PC usage). I have a secondary regular PC that performs NAS duties, media streaming, mining, web server, unifi server, and could be used to play games. I might even run an NVR on it. It runs a gui version of ubuntu. I use mdadm for the raid (might try zfs later). All of this is good enough for me, because there is no need to buy additional boxes, but is not "ideal" for each of those activities as far as efficiency in other ways. The webserver doesn't need a gui OS, etc.
diy isn't too bad, except its usually geared toward "I turned my old computer into a server" those older pcs sucked back power compared to what is available now. really makes the asustor look good
@@KiraSlith if possible, maybe give CasaOS a try? It’s pretty good
@spaz Why transcode when just about every device nowadays easily plays 1080p???...and your not paying for LAN bandwidth unless you're streaming outside of your premises!!!
Great video as always Jeff! Glad Jellyfin is working out so well for you and thank you for the project donation! -Jellyfin Project Leader
I’ve been a longtime Plex and Emby user, but, like many, have become frustrated. Definitely going to try Jellyfin to manage content that I have legally and legitimately acquired over the years.
We'll be watching to ensure your stewardship of Jellyfin remains sound.
You’re a f{}cking legend, Joshua. Thanks for your hard work.
@@Private-GtngxNMBKvYzXyPq what is wrong with Plex?
Dude, I was a plex user for almost a year and it got frustrating sometimes as it didn't show half the episodes in some shows. It showed just last 3 episodes of few shows. No issue with jellyfin. The cherry on top of using jellyfin is it can work without an internet connection.
Hats off to you, sir, for the time and dedication to get all those hardware and the setup all those from zero.
The last few seconds of this video was absolutely appreciated at the 14:40 timestamp. I spent most of the time watching for your camera to pan down, but you made it unnecessary. Thanks!
Oh, and the video was great too. I did this back in 2014 before going on the road full time in an RV, and a small NAS with easily accessible ripped video library was a must for small kids. Serving the movies via tablet while on long drives was great.
Just wanted to say thank you for these last two videos. I had been wanting to do something like this for years. I had started doing it for music but never knew you could do it with film and TV. This weekend I got a NAS and have started filling it up with my film and TV library. This video was the missing link I had been waiting for to teach me all I needed to know in order to make this dream reality!
Yes, I am appreciative too. I just hope Jeff keeps covering more questions that lot of us have -- like how to copy live TV (you know -- weather broadcasts and commercials).
I moved from using Kodi and SMB shares to Jellyfin about 4 months ago and I'll never look back. After a few hiccups configuring the hardware transcoding, things are fairly smooth and I couldn't be happier. Great video. I hope more people use this approach. By the way, it can be incredibly affordable to make a NAS using an ordinary Windows machine -- I keep shuffling my old workstation hardware into service as a mediaserver as I upgrade, and it makes for a much beefier machine. This makes transcoding, ripping, management, and running all the necessary servers possible on one machine. I just run Windows 10, and I use Storage Spaces to set up redundant drives. It was way easier than I expected.
I use Plex on my main Win10 server, along with being a gaming machine, running a Linux Mint Virtual box VM slurpbox & for other uses.
How does Jellyfin compare to Plex folks?
@@Nostromo2144 Not even comparable. Plex isn't free, and while it offers premium features that might seem attractive, in my view you can get feature parity with Jellyfin pretty easily -- literally the only thing you need to know how to do is set up port forwarding on your router so you can access the Jellyfin server remotely, and use dynamic DNS (or set up your own domain) to point to your home network's IP. And if you don't care about accessing your media library remotely, then none of this matters at all. Plex is good, but Jellyfin is great -- and free!
@@danielsmullen3223 Thanks mate, I'll definitely have to have a tinker with it now for sure! Don't do much remote access, but am fine with router config if need be. The only other consideration would be having a decent front end app on all our Android smart tvs, which Plex has an apk for most platforms - what about Jellyfin...?
@@Nostromo2144 there's a Jellyfin app. It's in the video, you have multiple choices of alternatives too.
for some reason my dad and i still use both Kodi , SMB share and Jellyfin at the same time 😅
A nice video, it will help since I'm currently going back to physical media myself and plan to set up a NAS for it.
Great video, thanks for the information
Finally getting around to ripping my boxes of DVDs and bluerays
I paid for plex for years, but recently after I had internet issues, I found the plex won't work unless it phones home.
So I tried Jellyfin and it's AWESOME. It even does 5.1 in firefox, and hardware encoding for free.
Thanks! I am just considering setting up a media server, and the only one I had heard about until now is Flex. I am definitely going to Jellyfin a try.
@@justinknierim2150 Tell that the Plex App for the TV...
@@justinknierim2150 Only if you whitelist your internal network IP's before it goes down. If you don't do this, and who knows how or where or that it even needs doing, then even the IP address won't work.
Why do you even need to do this?
I'll NEVER touch plex again.
I liked Plex and have a lifetime membership, but when it started becoming more corporate and pushing its own content, I switched to Emby. I tried Jellyfin but it didn't quite meet my needs.
I am in love with this notion of building my own streaming library at home. I’m already in the market for a NAS for business data and I’m thinking of getting two NASes so one can be for the media streamer.
I built one using an old Mac Pro - replaced the cpus with a pair of low power cloverfields (50watts each) and stuffed it with HDDs.
Been ripping all my movies and tv shows on to my new server dedicated to media. Have Jellyfin running on Windows 10 and streaming to my Apple Tv in the front room. WORKS AMAZINGLY WELL!
Stumbled across this page. I love this! Keep it up.
Thanks for the info. I used to rip my DVD's years ago but got out of it. Now I look at my DVD collection on the shelf and want to get it all online without having to buy the digital copies of stuff I already own.
RIP Blockbuster. :(
Thank you for showing us the shirt. Seeing the setup for so much of the video left me wondering what the punch line could be.
Seriously, thank you for showing us the Dad shirt at the end. Great video!
Jellyfin is awesome. I switched a couple years ago when I wanted a Plex alternative.
I had to go to emby because I was having issues with the transcoding on jellyfin
@@ProtonCannon85 Fortunately Jellyfin has been ok for me. I was on Emby before they went closed-source.
@@rhekman on the plus side I get a premade channel guide
Are there features that you miss after switching?
I'm new to JellyFin, but have a decent library set up by now.
And I had no idea about the Collection thing for movies! (Probably should read the documentation page more thoroughly...)
So very much thanks for that. It'll help a lot in keeping it looking tidy. Since currently Harry Potter takes up so many slots
Excellent video Jeff. Thank you. I just discovered your channel. Awesome. Thank you.
There are a few things I'm missing from Jellyfin interface/logic:
1) collections set in UI do not allow for sequence definition, all items are placed in a "collection pool" and sorted by name/title as defined/found in JF,
2) in order to define a sequence of titles in a collection one needs to use playlists,
3) but playlists cannot be shared between users - Emby and many other media server options allow it, but JF currently not, even though in metadata/media directories the files for UI created playlists share structure similar to Emby's with creation/visibility fields the latter is just not used by the JF logic,
4) playlists created as M3U files might be shared/visible as imported playlists for all, but they're non-editable so no easy updates through the UI (though one can easily edit the external playlist files elsewhere and just upload'em anew),
5) series episodes that often are split into 2 episodes (or more) on airing but are then combined into single longer (double-length) ones on disc releases still are not correctly recognised as dual episode entries - only the first episode "part" gets populated by title/actors and other metadata, it's not an issue on JF itself, it's more the situation of metadata availability in metadata providers that usually follow scheme used in airing,
6) series that can be aired as nearly continuous all episodes in a single airing season that on disc releases are actually split into segments parallel to actual seasons logic may have issues with obtaining proper metadata for files in "other" seasons than the first one that's been defined as one containing all the episodes due to how networks aired them officially - quite often this is what happens to anime releases,
7) if you add mini-series and define the respective production segments as "parts" (by that I mean files differentiated by keyword 'part'), they will be treated like parts of a movie, thus not being shown in the UI as episodes, but hidden as extra parts to the first file, which also means no metadata is obtained for those miniseries episodes unless you change the keyword from part to eg. episode or other episode monikers, so you need to make sure you have the file naming scheme correct and following documentation.
Why don't you use something like Ember Media Manager to scrape your own metadata. Or, you could edit the metadata file that Jellyfin creates. Using this method, there is a "Sort Title" section of the resulting *.NFO file. This will put any series of movies in whatever order you want.
For example:
Sort Title: Harry Potter 1
Sort Title: Harry Potter 2
Sort Title: Harry Potter 3
etc...
I understand that for series like this that were released in chronological order, it isn't that big of a deal. Where it really shines is something like Star Wars (which wasn't released in chronological order).
Example:
Star Wars Ep IV (1977) - Sort Title: Star Wars 4
Star Wars Ep V (1978) - Sort Title: Star Wars 5
Star Wars Ep VI (1980) - Sort Title: Star Wars 6
Star Wars Ep I (1999) - Sort Title: Star Wars 1
...
Star Wars Ep 7 (2015) - Sort Title: Star Wars 7
...
Star Wars Ep 9 (2019) - Sort Title: Star Wars 9
Once the metadata is read, Jellyfin (Or Plex, Kodi, whatever) will organize them in Chronological Order (1-9)
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Yes, I've shopped the three price tier bins at Walmart, and I've ripped DVD's. I was about to sign up and install a plex server when, like jellyfin, I found that the KODI player used imdb to thumbnail all my movies, let me sort them in several ways like genre, newly loaded, name, etc. With KODI I could share the content in several ways such as SMB, NFS, iSCSI ... KODI installs on my firesticks and finds the database by IP address. Like you, it doesn't hurt to try newer players but I like the fact that with KODI I don't need an account, don't need to pay subscriptions, etc. And, I like your videos
I became a cord cutter in 2018. I already had a library of 500+ movies at the time. When I cut the cord, I bought an antenna, an HD HomeRun and a Plex Passport. Even though I live in a small TV market, I get 46 channels with my antenna in the attic. It’s connected to the cabling in the house that was used by the cable company. Plex will record OTA programming and skip the ads. I use Open Media Vault on an RPi NAS as one of my backups. I have the Plex app installed on my Roku TV. My only paid subscription is BritBox and I don’t plan to renew. We’ve watched most of their programming of interest to us. Well I do have an Amazon account, but I use that account for additional services. I have Google Fiber for an ISP.
Plex can record?! 🤯
@@kbhasi Yes, if you are a Passport member. I bought the lifetime version for $120.
Also, you need a TV tuner connected to your home network. I have a Silicon Dust HD HomeRun. Recordings are stored on your equipment. Mine are recorded on a PC server and backed up to an RPi Open Media Vault NAS.
That Asusstor NAS is so awesome! Wish I had one!
A thought about the waiting problem. When a movie is supposed to be really good and you don’t want to wait until the disc comes out, just go to the movie theater. The film will probably be even better there :)
Not good for your hearing, the speakers there are turned up too high. It's even worse for children.
@@matthew8153 earplugs?
@@prokawriter1096
Then why go?
@@matthew8153 because of huge screen and a surround sound which should be still audible through earplugs
Going to a movie theater is a worse experience than watching it at home. Having a person munching next to you is annoying.
"Ive had enough with netflix, hulu, disney ".... Instant like and subscribe.
100% agree. I buy all my films on DVD and BluRay and rip them to my NAS. Each TV runs a mini PC with Kodi. Sky in the UK has a cool feature called "buy and keep" where you can watch the film now by streaming it and they send you a DVD/BR in the post to keep. So I can watch it straight away but also get a physical copy. Kodi does pretty much what JellyFin does. It also has a great override feature where you store an XML file in the same dir as the DVD and you can override any metadata you dont like. For example the title so they alphabeticall sort as you would like them, etc.. I'm glad I'm not the only person still buying and hoarding DVDs ! 🤣 Great video.
Great video :D I got an idea.. maybe two?? From this video and your presentation!! Especially on how to organize your videos, where I had some problems (turns out to be my way of ordering things ;) )
i had no idea what a NAS is. Now I do, and I subbed because you seem cool
I picked up an 8 bay HP tower server from a surplus store at the start of the year. It was much cheaper than any standalone NAS, but its power consumption is higher and it is much more difficult to initialize a software RAID array with LVM
Perhaps it can be optimized so that it consumes less?
Just only power it up when you need it. Use WOL to wake it up remotely.
@@KameraShy That might not often be as easy to do as one might expect... Some devices may have issues with WOL, some network solutions may not offer these frame types to be initiated on the router/switch side so you may need to initiate it from other connected devices, and finally, these can upon boot/WOL be noisy and very power hungry while they're getting ready to serve the needs which can also take quite a while depending on age or type of the device...
@@KameraShy Unfortunately I'm not the sole user, and besides Jellyfin it's running some game servers I like to keep running 24/7
it's really not that bad, only 300 watts or so with the drives at idle, but it is far and away more than any pi or standalone NAS
@@marcin_karwinski ok
The alternative to streaming is the library! But i definitely see the value in this setup.
TY for the T-shirt reveal at the end. I was wondering about it so much it distracted me from the video. After the reveal, I was able to watch the actual video content. Not kidding either.
Thank you Jeff. I love messing with networks and network storage, vpns etc. I never knew NAS media was so involved now a days. I'm still using a long HDMI to my TV for media. Guess I have to start spending more money, and make my network rack even weirder.
Swiftfin is great, i've been using it on my Apple TV. Recently got a UI update and its so clean, nice to look at and easy to use
I went down a similar path and now have a NAS that contains rips of all the DVDs we've accumulated over the years. Realize that the initial learning curve in doing this, even if you are fairly tech savvy, is a bit steep. But it gave me something to do during the pandemic lock down. The advantages also include access to this "virtual Netflix" even when the internet is down, and having your media far more accessible than when it was crammed into DVD cases on a shelf. I can watch anything on any device now, and even access my media remotely. The main downsides are the up front cost, the amount of time it takes to process all your media initially, and the fact that you'll eventually end up with this multi-terabyte media library that is absolutely cost-prohibitive to backup to the cloud. So think carefully about how you are going to back everything up and bake that into your budget. You can buy extra hard drives, set up a second, mirrored NAS off-site, etc. but that all costs money too. And trust me, once you've ripped everything, gotten all the metadata cleaned up and the like, you will never, ever want to redo that exercise. So just saving your original media is not much of a backup plan.
You could pay twice as much per TB but purchase a SATA SSD, and don't need a backup. Also silence
@@EVR1ALall data needs backups. Seta ssds can fail just like an HDD
I have 5TB of content on my Plex server, backed up to BackBlaze Cloud backup for $99/year (it’s unlimited). The initial backup takes ages, but it’s incremental backups from there
Man your kids can be so thankful for having such an amazing dad!!
Thanks for this Jeff, I've been using Emby after trying Plex and keep meaning to try Jellyfin again. Only thing is my servers are TrueNAS Core and last time I checked, it doesn't do Jellyfin without complicated installs!
I hope you're feeling as well as you look me hearty! 👍
I miss those mail home dvd businesses. Blockbuster and Netflix used to mail you any movie and many games all for like 9-12 dollars a month. A far better selection than any streaming service today and there was games too. With blockbuster you could even bring back a dvd to the store to trade for a free one at any time.
Netflix actually still has their dvd service ($10/a month)
@@theelmgrove they cancelled it now. sadge
Gamefly still does this
I knew you wouldn't let us hang without the dad-joke-shirt-reveal!
Love this video. I actually use a Synology NAS to run my Plex server via docker containers and ssh into my NAS to keep radar, sonarr, lidarr & plex docker containers up to date. I need to upgrade my hard drives as 32tb with half being used as redundancy isn't enough. Down to 20GB and constantly deleting stuff to make space lol smh.
Sir, you are a man after mine own heart. I'm doing something very similar with my own movie collection, though I'm only doing a local theater PC, no NAS setup. Right now I'm using Kodi, though I don't like it very much because its info scraper is finicky, and it has no ability to group movies or TV shows into categories (Drama, Sci-Fi, etc.) I'd never heard of Jellyfin before this; I'll give it a try.
The fps setting in handbrake is not a maximum. If you want it to remain unchanged, set it o "Same as source". You should be using constant framerate. It can be used as a maximum when set to the setting "peak framerate" but with movie content there is no reason for you to change anything there. This would only come in handy if you want to conform something like a variable framerate video from am mobile phone for something like Premiere Pro which doesn't like variable framerate videos at all (they might have corrected this by now, I'm not going to check though).
This video is top-tier! Well-done, Mr. Geerling.
Jeff, I watched your last video and just finished watching this one. Good content, thanks for sharing and keep it up. I clicked the Subscribe button. I came across your last video because I just got my fist 4K TV and I was thinking about how I could watch some of the highest quality content on it. 4K Streaming is an option but I know it's not the highest quality I can experience. I knew 4K USB discs existed but never purchased any because until recently I only had a 1080p TV. I'm a tech geek and I've always dreamed of having a huge NAS with hundreds of titles that I could watch from anywhere in my home but Ive never taken the plunge. The closest I got was an external drive attached to an Intel NUC running Plex. I ripped a couple dozen BluRay discs and had them on there. It was neat but I don't even have the system turned on any more. There are very few movies and even fewer TV shows that I want to watch more than once. The work to rip discs just doesn't seem worth it. It seems like you have kids so I guess having a NAS makes it easier for your family to access content anywhere in the house. Other than that and perhaps just because this is a hobby for you, why wouldn't you just watch your BluRay and your UHD discs using a BluRay player attached to your TV?
I am still using an early version of Plex to do this (having previously used Kodi), running on a Chromebox re-purposed to Linux with media stored on USB3-connected drives. I will have to look out for a comparative review of Plex vs. Jellyfin.
Honestly there isn't much to choose between Plex, Jellyfin or Emby. It all comes down to personal taste. I've been using Plex for 10+ years, and although I've dabbled with the other two, my library is so extensive and so hand crafted nowadays that it would be impractical to switch at this point.
Plex is free to use and superior to either alternative. I don’t see the point in switching. All the complaints about plex are overwrought and fantastical.
@@Akkbar21 Plex is functional and *far* from perfect, but it is free to use. So is Jellyfin.
I just installed Jellyfin on my home server and am enjoying it so far. It requires a lot of fiddly file renaming of my library but for an organization aficionado like myself that's almost a benefit. 😛
Haha same, finally forced me to standardize my TV episode layout.
Same here...
that's why i use smb with infuse.. i can structure my folder layout however i want yet get all the benefits of infuse smart cover loading and grouping
Bulk Rename Utility (if using Windows) is very helpful in this area, especially if migrating old files or other downloaded ones.
@@mattdivito3581 BRU and similar typically don't have an option of intelligent tracking of IMDB/TVDB IDs for the files/dirs in question... So yeah part of the work could be done quickly with such tools but if you want to have a complete and ready for instant recreation/reimport/rescan from scratch library (re)naming done, you need to be ready for some manual labour.
Enjoyed this video. Watched it purely out of curiosity. Right at the end of 2019 before COVID, I discovered PLEX. At first I just played around with it on my computer. Then I realized I wanted a NAS (for security mostly). Bought a 2-bay Terramaster (yeah, I know… but I wasn't even sure what I was doing and they are CHEAP). Anyway, it turned into an obsession. I ripped all my DVDs and BluRays (about 200?) and the hand full of TV box sets I had. THEN I discovered the LIVE TV-DVR integration. I'm ideally located so that all my networks are E-SE of me… and I'm on a hill in an otherwise flat area. I get about 60 channels in HD from my antenna using a HomerunHD 4-tuner. The whole TV integration with antenna on the roof cost me my time and about $150. Since then I've DVR'd at LEAST a dozen nostalgia TV series' and movies to add to my library and PLEX marks the commercials for skip or outright deletes them for me.
One difference is I use RAID 1. Aside from traditional backup, I hotswap in a third drive once a month and let it re-RAID. That way if I'm ever infected with something like .deadbolt (AGAIN…), I'm only back a month with a fully ready to go drive with my media and the NAS OS installed and configured exactly how I want it. Wipe the two infected drives, re-RAID, back up in about 9hrs (sync time) with no hassle.
Do you have any experience with PLEX? I was wondering what the differences are with Jellyfin. Based on your video there seem to be few to none.
I've had a simple Samba server hosting my personal media content accessed by RPi boxes running OSMC (custom Kodi). Not sexy but it works like a charm and I use my TV remotes via CEC to make it all work.
This is awesome! I just moved from Plex to Jellyfin (didn't want to pay for certain features). My only difference is that I prefer to use Plex's media naming suggestions. It just feels a bit neater/fancier.
Cool. The other thing I like about Plex is the mobile app UI, which is easy to use & includes casting - does Jellyfin provide similar...?
@@Nostromo2144 Jellyfin has mobile apps and IIRC they have casting information on them just like the web ui.
I scrolled down to see if there were any Plex vs Jellyfin discussions. I’ve been using Plex for many years now and love it, but Jellyfin’s organization flow looks nice and intuitive. I’m lazy…er I mean busy, and organizing things in Plex (and then troubleshooting why it didn’t work) can get a bit much sometimes.
I was about to comment something similar. The tagging system on Plex seems much easier, but as you said some of its features are paid only but I guess they deserve it for making our life easy.
I'm experimenting with Jellyfin. So far, I like the support for users and how streamlined it is.
The biggest downside for me has been subtitles. I haven't been able to get my subtitles to show. As near as I can tell, it's because Jellyfin doesn't support the format used by my movies.
You know, there's another alternative you haven't said anything about: Your local public library. Libraries often loan discs for cheap or even free!
He didn’t mention it because that would be illegal (copying media you don’t own) and TH-cam is not going to allow a video that promotes illegal activity. Franky, I wouldn’t suggest anything other than buying the media you intend to copy. And definitely do not put ripped files online. I wouldn’t even back them up to cloud storage. The better way to protect that content is back it up to an external hard drive and put that drive in a safe deposit box at a bank.
@@markconger8049 You can just encrypt the shit out of your files locally before ever uploading to cloud backup. They can't see what's inside, it all looks like jumbled data to them.
I got a cheap 2011 Mac Mini, put dual hard drives in, installed Open Media Vault with Mini DLNA, put my movies into folders in a shared media folder, and my smart TV and other devices handle playing the videos with their own software.
Thanks for showing us your shirt Also LOVE David Tennant❤
It just occurred to me that you could go to one of those Redbox machines and rent a movie to rip. My dad actually did that with Netflix when they were a DVD rental service.
Lol I used to do that. Same with the library.
Fun fact, Netflix still does DVD and Blu-ray rentals. Sometimes it’s a good place to get things that are hard to find
keep in mind that most of the DVD's will be in 720P but it does work.......DVD Srink will back up the DVD and both MakeMKV and Handbrake can make the mkv or mp4 files....
@@jchavins The maximum resolution of DVDs is 720x480 (480p), not 720p. 720p would be 1280x720 resolution.
@@Pythonzzz Been doing the library thing with movies and music...one it allows you to watch/listen without wasting your money upfront. I've copied a few and if I only watch it once then after a period of time it gets removed. It's great to rewatch old 80s movies when and where I want.
I'll stick to sailing the high seas
Omg 😱 that’s still a thing?!
I’d been plugging my titles into iTunes, and now Apple TV (app), and stream it to the Apple TV (device), for seamless integration. Been working brilliantly. It’s a little more work, but really worth it. I’m gonna look into this process and see what I think. It seems unnecessarily complicated, but I may be overlooking some things about it. Rock on!
I built and unRaid server over a decade ago for network storage and more and I’ve never regretted getting the Pro license.
Glad someone is testing out Jellyfin. I saw linus' sponsored review of Plex and they casually glossed over the caveats and imo wasn't really a fair review
Absolutely agreed. It's fine to have sponsored content, but completely ignoring a product's faults just because you're being paid? It reflects badly on their professionalism.
Can you please share what you think are the largest caveats? Thanks
@Unknown To be fair that's only if you've set it up with a forwarded port on your router, mine is dockerised and connects to my reverse proxy over a cloudflare tunnel
@@krcmaric Not the poster you're replying to, but the project leader for Jellyfin, so take this with my own biases in mind.
1. The whole authentication thing. Fundamentally, with Plex you are *not* in control of your users. Each user needs a Plex account (cloud, not local), there's that whole "Plex Auth servers are down so can't log in" thing that keeps happening, and there's absolutely nothing to stop them from suddenly charging per-user.
2. It's not free software, so you have no idea what their binaries are actually doing on your systems. Sure this is the case for literally any proprietary software, but for a media server that's (see next point), there's definitely a sketch factor there.
3. They seem to be getting into their own media game, which becomes a pretty quick conflict-of-interest with users who want to run their own libraries.
4. The above "content" is forced onto Plex users even if they don't want it.
I'm sure there's more, but I don't use Plex: I looked at it in 2017 and decided on Emby instead because of these main caveats. From there, Emby's behaviour triggered Jellyfin!
@@joshuaboniface I've been a plex user for many years. Tried Jellyfin a year or so ago and ran into a problem where lots of similarly named videos were being grouped together as a series. There are some youtube channels that I download in case google screws over the channel and deletes them so I don't lose the information in them. Was unable to find a way to stop that grouping from happening. Any idea if that behavior has changed? Any way to stop that or to say "don't group this folder's contents"?
I haven't stopped buying DVDs since I made the switch from VHS and I'm glad I did. Not just because of all the reasons that Jeff mentions but also because all the content in streaming services are not the original, by this I mean scenes have been removed or replaced and quite often great music has been replaced with a really bad quickly made replacement.
Quite often? I would say more like extremely rarely. How many music tracks do you know of that were swapped out in a movie, say in the last 30 years?
@@user-nh3gu1ge3d Actually, a lot more than you think. Music rights expire anywhere from 5-10 years after airing sometimes so other arrangements have to be made to play the episodes on air. That 70's Show is a HUGE example of this happening.
@@cameronj739 "Quite often" in my mind would be > 50%. What do you consider "quite often" or "a lot more than you think"? These are vague, undefined, and largely meaningless terms. Are you saying that > 50% of shows have their music rights stripped? I doubt it. Greater than 25%? Probably not. ONE example, that 70's show, doesn't equal "a lot more than you would think" to me. What are your numbers?
Great video dude!!! I have a question related to the app. Do I have to purchase the app for use in home, mobile devices for use inside or outside home?
Thanks for pointing out the documentation. I have a Jellyfin server and I used Sonarr to try to manage my library, however, I guess I was not using Sonarr correctly. It would always fight with me, and I even got banned from their Discord server basically after asking for help and being mocked.
I had bulk sets of TV Shows and Movies that I needed to manage so Jellyfin could grab the metadata correctly. I was so fed up that I started to write my own software solution to manage media that would've ultimately solved a lot of the problems I had, since ideally this software would be endlessly configurable. But I eventually gave up since the maintenance was getting way more than worth it.
Though given this new insight and different perspective, I may take a hack at it again in the future. After all, I did have fun using Cloudflare tunnel to server files via nginx, and even stream movies to friends in other countries.
Oh heck yeah. I love my Plex server. I've been wondering about alternatives
@@mokisan I mean, I love my Plex server. I see no need to switch, Jellyfin seems like more work to me based on the video
As usual a great video. You could, and I would, use some kind of VPN to be able to view your content away from your home. There are quite a few options with perhaps the most popular being something like an OpenVPN server connected to your home network, and with a decent internet connection (some public WiFi hotspots and cellular networks might be a bit to slow, and on cellular networks there a places with poor to no connection) at the viewing end you can use it.
You can also use SSH proxy depending on what kind of router you have.
I love having my own streaming service from my NAS. All the subscriptions add up and yeah I’m sick of shows getting removed. So now I’m buying physical copies of all my favorites and ripping them on my NAS.
I'm glad you covered the point that you're making a digital backup of movies you legally (and currently) own. I've heard of people describing the process and then suggesting doing a Redbox rental or selling your discs once the backup is made. That's not kosher with either moral principles or the law. Anything in your digital collection should have a paired physical disc or documentation of your purchase of the media in a digital format.
Thanks Jeff for looking at Jellyfin on an ASUSTOR NAS! Hey everyone! Marco here. We recently put in anti-RSJ defences into our NAS devices, but it seems that in the last video, RSJ defeated the security to install a 10G card! Honestly, we were surprised he wasn't destructive this time! But we have to keep ourselves on guard! Next time we will have anti Red Shirt *Pirate* Jeff defences built in! As always! If you have questions, comments, constructive criticism, praise or suggestions about how we can keep Red Shirt Jeff and other threats to your data out of your NAS, feel free to reply to me here and I will happily answer your questions. I get notifications if replied to.
Thanks again!
I've been considering an Asusstor nas but am currently on a Netgear 412 running ReadyNas 6. I think... the array is using mdadm running RAID1 at the moment.
Is it possible to simply switch drives between the chassis and it work without losing my data or do I have to have both chassis functional and transfer data over the network?
Or in other words, if I put a set of drives that are already an mdadm raid1 array, will something like the asustor AS1104T find and import the array? or will it reinitialise the disks and lose my data?
@@lmaoroflcopter Unfortunately, the RAID array is still different enough in each manufacturer and we aren't able to import it without destroying the data. If your old NAS is functional, however, it's probably best that it be relegated to a backup to help keep files protected from data loss. We definitely don't recommend throwing away an old NAS as we do support making scheduled backups to other brands.
Thank you for your support!
I have an ASUSTOR NAS (AS-604T) running the latest ADM (3.5.9.RWM1), and while the Emby Server is available to install in App Central, there is no option or listing for installing Jellyfin. Why is Jellyfin missing from my app choices?
@@Antti_Nannimus Hey there! Thank you for your support! As far as I can tell, Docker does not support the AS6 series. Unfortunately my product manager is out sick with COVID so let me see how he's doing on Monday to get an answer as to why.
@@Antti_Nannimus Hi there! He's still at home sick. We haven't forgotten! As soon as he is back I will ask for more info.
Another problem is that some streaming exclusives are not available on physical media at all
But available on a torrents.
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This is so much effort and the reason why I switched wholeheartedly to streaming. I've only just finished throwing out all the hundreds of jewel cases for the waste of time, waste of space, waste of oil, physical media I had, and putting the actual discs in a whole shelf worth of those storage binders. Still a ridiculous waste of space considering if you ignore the Blurays, the rest (DVDs, Music, PC software and games) would fit on a couple of 1TB SD micro cards. They also transfer from optical media slower than broadband download speeds.
But with all streaming services being really lame for 4K/HDR/Surround support on Windows/Linux, it seems Jellyfin paired with torrents (for films and shows you're paying to stream) might be worth having too.
Spot on Jeff ! To add to your case people can share physical media lowing cost of overhead 👍 not to mention control and tink-ablity 👍
I have been running jellyfin for years now. I picked jellyfin because contrary to plex, jellyfin doesn't call home. Zero dependencies.
Running and managing the movie server has become a fun hobby. I encode all content to HD h264 with AAC stereo audio which makes it run without transcoding on all known devices.
Because of that, my entire family can enjoy the content locally or remotely and scrap their streaming services.
Huge benefit is that content STAYS. Over the years I have built a large library of old catalog content that is far superior to the drivel produced in the last decade.
It's fantastic.
You were meant to destroy cable tv not join them
Synology's apps were enough for me. works on tv, phone, laptop, at home and away via quick connect. I'm happy with it. The setup was just as easy as jellyfin
"a deep library, but of shallow content"
Very succinct. Nice :D
Also: If a show is good enough to make it to blu-ray, that means it's good enough that Netflix didn't cancel it after 1 or 2 seasons, and you might get to see a complete series.
Every time people start talking about the latest show that just released, my answer is always the same: "No, I haven't watched it yet. I'm not going to watch it yet. I'm going to wait and see if it gets cancelled or not. I don't want to get invested and left wondering what would have happened next."
I have about 60 tb of content. Still waiting for the FBI to show up.
I love all the media software out there, and HDTV has everything I want in terms of news. I could use a NAS because I use a TV card to save my shows. Between ripping all my media and using my computer as a Tivo, space is tight.
Thanks for a great video Jeff!
I'm having some trouble logging inn on my phone. Could you make a video on how to set up jellyfin on a phone? Or do you have an easy explanation on the subject :)
And the absolute best part about this is if you teach your kids properly they can keep expanding the collection after you die. Keep it going long enough and after a few generations it will contain everything. Or at least it will have enough you'll never be able to watch it all.
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Given the quality of most current movies and TV shows, I'm more than perfectly fine waiting for something to come out at a $1 price point. My DVD collection is quite large, though I haven't bought any in about a decade or so. Dump bins are great, and how I've got most of mine too. Ross, yeah the clothing store, had a huge swath of multi-pack movies in $5 dump bins some years back. Don't even know if they still exist, but I've got close to 200 movies from just those dump bins. Given the amount of data people hoard, I'd suggest a NAS to anyone. Whether ripping all your movies to it or just for storing whatever random files you have, it's a great idea to make it more convenient to access.
Awesome content as always Jeff, I did want to mention using the Pioneer drive link, I ordered but received a no name generic device instead unfortunately. Has anyone else had this issue that you know of?
I think one thing you lose out on is enjoying it as a society. Take the Mandalorian for example. Disney still doesn't have a bluray and alot of it would have been spoiled just by hearing about it from other people. It's part of the experience to enjoy it when everyone else is enjoying it.
3:26 First he tells me to unsubscribe, now he tells me to subscribe.
Instructions unclear. Bought Jeff Geerling: The Complete Series on HD DVD instead.
Excellent video, Jeff.
Fantastic video. Thank you.
If there's one thing we can agree on, it's that the Halo TV series was absolutely terrible.
Greate video!
Is there somehow to automatically organized all the movies and TV shows?
Love the shirt. And don't forget about loaning something out to a friend or neighbor that's something you can't do with a streaming service especially now that Netflix is locking down on account sharing..... And the best part no scratched DVDs or non-rewound VHS tapes on return if you give them a link to the digital version!
Dude this is amazing!!!
As an anime fan, this is the perfect use case. I know that no anime is spared from licensing hell so I always buy the physical copy for shows I enjoy. Plus the studios sustain themselves off of Blu ray sales so it's a win win imo
Thkx for sharing Jeff. I have digital copies (ISO) of all my DVD's. Have you considered putting ISO's on your Jellyfin server in stead of ripped files?
can jellyfin read iso files? if not they can be mounted with FUSE, not sure if this is easier/harder than transcoding tho.
Hey Jeff! Can you do a segment on over the air tv and tv tuners? I just cut cable and I’d like to find a way to use a usb tv tuner and antenna and potentially hook into jellyfin or plex.
I have a Synology NAS and it's really user friendly and easy to use. It's getting a bit long in the tooth (nearly 10 years old) but it works. Does DLNA which most set top boxes / TVs have support for.
I just finished setting up my first media server on an old Intel nuc running Ubuntu. I used Plex for this and am happy with the overall end result but may I know how is Jellyfin compared to plex?