It turns out that I have missed one very important detail: X99-MR9A Pro has 8 phases VRM while X99-MR9A non-Pro has only 6 phases. The MOSFETs are and their configuration is identical between the motherboards.
Thank you for sharing all this knowledge. Question: does the MR9A bios work with the PRO version? Another: Is there any way to set Bus speed to 100? (not 99. something) Ukrainian Force, you are brave!
@@andrewsturmey I've been on the subject of lga2011 for two years and only recently I find out what the real chipset is. it's sad, I watched a lot of materials on YT and no one mentioned this little detail. I'll watch your video now.
I had no idea what I was buying with my first board, and it was a bit of a disaster. I've done three videos on “X99” stuff now, and come to realise it's definitely a false economy. Fun though. Definitely cannot trust the people who manufacture these boards, mind you.
I love my MR9a, at first i regret it because the pro seems a bit better, but i hate small fans on vrms and never had the need to use m.2 wifi modules, so the mr9a was the rigth choice. Nice comparison sir, have a good one.
For around $50-60, these boards still represent a fairly good value when paired with a well priced v3 Xeon. It's just harder and harder to recommend paying $100-150 on the Xeon v3 platforms when used Ryzen is also fairly affordable. The big attraction for me is dual x16 slots AND dual NVMe drives with 40 PCIE lane v3 CPUs
Hello and congratulations for the video. Can you tell me on which RAM channels should I install two DDR memory banks to take advantage of the dual channel?
Congratulations on the great work, I met you through the Brazilian Mario Mazzoti channel. I am a user of two Xeons, I would like to know what you think about the end of support for Windows 10 and the limitation of Windows 11 for use on this LGA 2011-3 platform. I know that it is possible to install Windows 11 by changing the registry, but honestly I am thinking about using my Xeons only with Linux.
Hi, I'm planning to upgrade my PC to these cheap Xeons and motherboards that you've reviewed. I'm curious as to how well they do in the long term? I won't be doing any intensive tasks, I'll mostly just play e-sports and casual games. Would you recommend these motherboards for long term use?
Hi Miyconst, I have a graphic card with a 6 pin connector, however, my psu does not have 6 pin connectors. Is it possible to use an 8 pin connector, leaving 2 pins out? What would you recommend on these cases?
Hey. So I got machinist x99 mr9a pro max with E5 2697 V3 and I successfully unlocked the turbo mode. However I got problem with enabling SLI, the option is simply not available in control panel. I got 2x Titan X Pascal. I can't find the option in bios to change PCIe lanes distribution. At first the second GPU was recognized as x16 1.1 but after some tinkering I got it to work at x16 2.0, the first GPU is working normally at x16 3.0. I don't know what else to do, I wanted to make SLI build so much and it failed... Can you help me bro?
Thank you for your very informative video. I bought this motherboard at a good price and built a second X99 computer for general use. I watched your previous MR9A video. Furthermore, I tried to use the non-ECC bus 2666 Kingston Fury RAM, but it did not boot up. So I went to the ECC ram, and it boots normally. Have a great day, and keep up the good work. I love your content. I will follow you. 🙏🏼👍💪
MR9A has 2 smart fan ports that works, CPU and sys header. You can control it using a open source software like fan controller and you can set a curve and temperature sensors. I tested and works perfectly with any pwm fan.
Hello, Do you know if the BIOS of the Machinist MR9A V1.0 in the Mi899 tool are compatible with the Machinist MR9A PRO MAX? I want to use TBU and Undervolt in my Motherboard, thank you!
Thanks for your videos, very informative. Have you tried to flash the MR9A Pro with the CH341? I have followed your instruction video but have not been able to read the bios.
@@Miyconst Yes I also initially flashed iEngineer bios with FPT without any problem but now FPT give error when trying to flash back to stock or other iEngineer releases
Hello there! Quick question, does my X99 mobo need a fan for the VRM in order to safely run a 2680 V3 with TBU? Should I get the MR9A or MR9A-Pro for a 2680 V3? I am planning to game with this setup.
As far as I know these motherboards use identical BIOS but Chinese update the motherboard specs with no prior notice so you can always get compatibility issues.
im trying to set up one of these mobos with an rx580 8gb and it works great but i dont know how to upgrade the bios. i have a 2687w v4 in it right now. the mr9a pro, also unsure exactly how to undervolt the cpu. been a long time since ive been in an ami bios. it works great right now with a modded win 11 avoiding tpm. just have it on a test bench playing around. wanna try an arc a770 just not sure if drivers could be a problem. alot fun tinkering though.
Do you know how to get a NVME SSD to show up in the bios? i have 2 and neither one will show up in the bios anywhere and i cant install my OS onto them or use them as storage. ive tried both the m.2 slots and a pcie x16 card and they still wont be recognized anywhere.
@@Miyconst WD NVME 1TB and my MOBO fried itself after more issues than ive ever had with any pc. i changeed the mobo and ive had no problems. ill never buy machinest again
Hello! Please tell me the BIOS for overclocking 1660v3 for MR9A. There is no overclocking option in the stock one. I tried to flash the BIOS from other boards and found unstable operation or the computer did not start at all. When I put back 2697v3 everything worked. I would really like instructions on adding an overclocking option for 16xxv3 series processors for MR9A to the standard BIOS if there is such a possibility
I still don't see the X99 MR9A Pro listed in your Mi-899 program. Which makes me wonder how you were able to flash the MR9A Pro BIOS, when you don't seem to specifically share a link to explain the flashing process described as "working really well" in this video. It's not in your blog either, I looked. I just can't take a risk on using the wrong BIOS for my main PC right now. Is this a blind spot? Or did you simply not mention that the old X99 section and BIOS options work for MR9A Pro as well?
MR9A and MR9A Pro share the BIOS. Please download the latest Mi899 app and select MR9A as your motherboard then pick desired BIOS. Also, with Chinese motherboards I can never guarantee BIOS compatibility, even if two boards are called the same and look the same.
Mine is the pro version and I noticed 2 strange behaviors. First, the HDD led doesn't work when reading NVME in either of the two slots. Second, only one front USB 2.0 port works, the other doesn't, USB 3.0 port works fine.
Maybe a bit off-topic but I am trying to install the iengineer bios on my machinist board. Not really sure how to do it though. I am trying from linux and it looks like I need to use fwupd. Do you know of any guides for this? Like, how do I tell it to use the .ROM file?
The iEngineer BIOS must be flashed with a programmer, at least it's so according to his instructions. Myself I never flashed BIOS from Linux, it's just such a pain.
@@Miyconst ugh. Well I have a programmer on its way I just thought I would try the software approach while I waited for it to arrive. Not going to install windows for it though. Guess I’ll just wait for the programmer.
I'm having same issue with Defective MR9A the audio stopped working on its own, the VRM is overheating also which causing the motherboard to restart. I think it is a problem that came from the manufacturer
what about ZSUS X99-P4/8P4 + 2650v4 combo for very cheap ? i got this bundle with 1x16gb ddr4 for about 188pln . Worthy of anything or just wasted my money ?
@@Miyconstsecond pc in case of failure in main PC / simple nas most probably will be it use . maybe some tinkering with linux / vm's if i will have enough time :P
@@Miyconst you are probably kind of right . Lately, I've been getting more joy from messing around / tinkering with hardware than later using it . I have some spare parts , needed just platform , want something cheap to tinker with but something I can repurpose later - not just throw it into corner because it's barely usable or it will die in just few months .
I have MR9A + 2697V3. It works at -50 per core on a standard BIOS with turbo boost unlocked. The flight was normal for 3 months. To ventilate the VRM, I bought a bracket for installing a cooler and an Arctic 80 mm cooler
Thanks for this video. I just bought this board and, if possible, I would like to make you a couple of questions: is there a chance with its original BIOS to turn off the USB ports after the shut down? Other than this taking into account that I'm not intersted on overclocking etc, would it be worth to change the BIOS with the iEngineer (honestly for me it's too risky the procedure using an external flasher)...thanks!
As I said in the video, I flashed iEngineer BIOS using FPT tool so at least for me, a programmer was not required. The USB shut down I didn't really test, so can't comment on that, sorry.
You can use Mi899 to prepare a flash script for you, the latest version has "Select BIOS" button so you can flash any BIOS from your hard drive, not only from the read-made collection.
Thanks for the great video as always, one question where did you get that intel stock lga 2011-3 CPU fan? I'm struggling to find one. the only one that I was able to find is the Noctua NH-D9DX i4 3U but it's not very cheap. What do you suggest?
@@federicopullini6206 just browse Ali, there are a few options, I can't post links here but you can ping me on Discord and I will help finding something.
Are there any AliExpress X99 boards that support overlocking the Xeon e5-1650 v3 along with quad channel memory without any bios modifications as well as minimal problems - or - am I simply better off buying a used ASUS X99 A II or other brand name board off eBay?
I've just got the MR9A 1.0 and i thank you for sharing your experience with the bios flashing; if your MR9A 1.0 got bricked with e-ingeneer Bios i won't take that risk, i'll instead try the Huananzhi 8M-F thanks to your reccomendation as well, i only have a little doubt: i see everywhere this bios are made for the B85 chipset and sometimes the C226 or both but... my motherboard has the Q87 one ! i guess it will be compatible but this things seems to have a dregree of uncertainity... i havent seen enough info to be sure about it so i guess i will just try to flash it and cross fingers, thanks again Miyconst
@@MiyconstThank you for response i check your program and still cant find MACHINIST MR9A PRO i see is MACHINIST MR9A 1.0 but i'm not sure if this will be okay flash bios from other model ?
I recently bought an Xeon E5 2676v3. Ive got the Zsus X99-8D3 Mainboard with HM55 Chipset. Do you think I can mod it with your tutorials and guides? Im asking because I dont know if its technical possible because of this Chipset and I want to minimize the risk of killing the Bios. Thanks for your help, ur videos are great.
does your motherboard have a x99/ c612 chipset? in the store it says that it comes with either b85 / c226 or q87, great review by the way, I am currently looking for a motherboard to pair with a xeon E5 1660 v3 for overclocking, and i have been eying the Jingsha D8 or the SZMZ S3.
i want to ask, the X99-MR9A Pro and the X99-MR9A is good, in my local market theres only X99-MR9A Pro MAX. do u recomend this and maybe u have tested it or maybe search for another known tested motherboard
I did not test the Pro MAX variation but as far as I know it's the same motherboard underneath, just a slightly different appearance. You can check what chipset is installed. If it's a desktop version like Q85/87, Z87/97 then it's most likely the same motherboard.
Does the the Machinist x99-MR9a pro an have a C99, C612, B85 or something else chip set? I am asking because I see a seller listing it as a B85 chipset.
Wow. After watching this i cannot pick between MR9A Pro, Huananzhi F8 or Huananzhi TF. I want to use 3060 non ti. Does it really just come down to price at this point?
Hi, just received my mr9a and after one first boot to windows.... Now I'm stuck on machinist splash screen logo. I have test 2 ram psu cpu v4 gpu and cmos and reseat ram and cpu ... Nothing! Just 2 bip and stuck. Already dead ? Impossible to enter in the bios.
Hi Miyconts, i want to get this motherboard and E5 2696 v3. It can disable cores from bios? I want to set this CPU at 12 cores whitout HT and TBU with Undervolt.
@@XiphophorusMaculatus every motherboard maxes out at DDR4-1866/2133/2400 with locked Xeon E5 CPUs, only some unlocked Xeons like E5-1650 V3/1660 V3 support higher speeds on branded motherboards.
Interested to see how these boards support RDIMM modules, as there’s a lot of cheap high capacity server RDIMM modules out there now and I’m in need of a workstation with a lot of memory
@@Miyconst sorry, I meant higher capacity LRDIMM modules - 64GB and 128GB specifically. Some are platform locked (I’ve seen reports of the HP Enterprise stuff being like this) but some are generic and might work
Have you encountered an issue with this board as below, Whenever I open device manager I see heaps of base system devices missing etc The moment the system seems to check or scan devices it immediately reboots. It is Windows 10, fresh install I am struggling to ensure all devices are installed. It also reboots the moment I try and install drivers from AMD adrenaline, and the audio driver link you have included also.
I managed to get all drivers installed but the one problem I still encounter is if I run AMD adrenaline installer (I have an RX 6700 non XT) the moment the installer opens, I hear the hardware disconnect sound and the PC restarted itself. Now after a few windows updates, it restarts and then immediately after I see it complete post and windows loads, windows goes straight to "shutting down" and repeats the cycle. Very frustrating, I was very excited to get to use this. Taking up so much time with clean OS installs and iengineer bios flashed, still can't crack this problem.
@@Miyconst I've installed all Windows updates and optional also. I'll flash back the original BIOS and try and return it. But I'll also make sure it isn't a compatibility issue with my GPU being too new. I did however to get all drivers installed need to use PowerShell to install them in bulk as the second a program seems to state "your device needs a restart to complete installation" the PC immediately reboots. Might even be the PSU perhaps as it keeps stating "PC has woke from low power state" or along those lines. Troubleshooting... Such a pain Thanks for taking the time to respond.
@@Miyconst do you know if the PCIE gen can be selected in the BIOS from iengineer? I am attempting to use a gen 4 GPU which I know should just work but I've heard some people have issues with the generation being set to auto detect on other motherboards and changing it to be 3 fixed their issues
Techyescity also mentioned this in machinist motherboards. Unlocking turbo boost is a pain in the butt cheeks. You have to double the step and there's a chance that the bios may break. Also it sucks that its temperature sensors doesn't work. Most of us can't afford a thermal camera
Nothing is safe when it comes to flashing the BIOS. Mi899 doesn't do anything with the BIOS though, it only prepares ready to use scripts for FPT and/or AfuWin.
Hello 👋 i have E5 2680V4 and 8gb ecc ddr4 rx580 and i want to build a cheap gaming rig i also live in cold environment will you recommend me x99 mr9a non pro and I’m limited to ali express ?
CPU temperature is measured and reported by the CPU, so it's correct even with the Chinese boards. For accurate power consumption measures you need an external wattmeter.
Dude i have this one its been nothing but headaches. its got a Q87 South bridge so my m.2 slots only 1 works the secound one is useless. idk about the wifi m.2. also my m.2 4 slot pcie x16 card only 1 slot works at a time. I cant overclock the ram, sometimes when I update windows 10 it frags the whole thing requiring a fresh install, and when i tried repolacing the cmos battery 3 days ago after completely unpowering everything it fried the mobo. ive never had a worse mobo ill never by mashinist again
@@Miyconst And what's your opinion, what makes more sense on that motherboard and overclocked E5 1660 V3 or a E5 2690 v4, lastly, why don't Chinese motherboards ever have a bclk adjuster ?
I would go with E5-2690 V4. BCLK overclocking is hard and expensive to implement, at the same time it's almost useless because it affects stability of the devices connected to the PCI-E bus.
I'm just asking, but have you ever seen these Machinist motherboards on Amazon? I saw some of your reviews and looked at the ones on amazon and they look different (for example the K9 has 2 extra SATA ports on Amazon...)
What is the problem and what is your full PC specification?
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Im using a MR9A PRO, 2680V4, 32GB quad-channel. The problem is that my onboard network card can't reach gigabit speed (capped at 10 Mb/s). I'm using proxmox but already tried install windows 11, mint and pop-os. If a connect other machine on same setup (router+cable) It reaches gigabit speed.
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I tried different drivers, disabled ASPM in bios for PCIe and DMI, disabled IPv6, changed energy plans. Nothing worked.
This bios from iEngineer which you use for MR9A PRO will fit to MR9A? and this bios which you use is named MACHINIST E5-MR9S BX99DA14 GAMERS BIOS on page where bios is selling? and which bios will be better for MR9A (non PRO) this from iEngineer or this from Huananzhi X99-8M-F? what do you think?
Hello, thank you for the video it is very nice and informative ! Do you think this motherboard would work with E5 2630Lv4 cpu, with 64gb of ecc ddr4 and a gtx 1070 gpu ?
@@Miyconst I don't use the PC much... every now and then to play when it happens.. I have a build done 4 years ago.. an i5 4460. I wanted something more
I would love if you could test the Zsus P4. I think it also goes by Huananzhi P4. I'm having hard time getting the turbo to actually turbo that well. Same CPU on different motherboard (QD4) gives me 20 to 30% better performance.
Hello, I maintain the x79 platform and I want to move to the x99, I see boards with a good reputation such as the Huananzhi F8 and the TF, I follow your recommendations, and you tell me that you prefer the Machinist MR9 A PRO, I maintain an X79 Machinist V2_81B, and I have not I have had no complaints or problems, do you suggest I continue with Machinist MR9 A PRO / PRO MAX Excellent content, greetings
Sorry for being totally new in this stuff! but can it game with a 2070 for example... These server CPU's show a lot of cores and threads and what not but I'm not familiar with XEON vs I7 jaddy jaddy Why am I only learning about this now! ? Can I really build an cheap PC that packs a big punch?
In the description, the X99-MR9A (Pro) has an 8 phase power section and the X99-MR9A has a 6 phase power section, but in the video you say that both boards have an identical power section, so what does it actually look like? Because in your video you can see the difference in the construction of the section, but you say that it is identical, can you explain what it actually looks like?
What description are you talking about? My X99-MR9A and X99-MR9A Pro have exactly the same VRM that you can see at 02:35 on this video but Chinese could have degraded the MR9A non-PRO VRM to cut costs.
@@Miyconst On ali, the description states that the PRO version has 8 phases and the non-pro version has 6 phases and in your video you can also see that the PRO version has a different power supply section because it has 8 coils (square cubes), and the non-pro version has only 6 coils, in addition, the pro version has more mosfets than the non-pro version and in your video at 2.15 minutes you can see the difference between the power supply sections of the motherboard of both models and everywhere I look, this is how it is stated that the PRO version has 8 phases and the non-pro version has 6 phase power section
@@dzikiszerszen2798 oh, man! You are absolutely right. I got so focused on checking what MOSFETs are installed that I totally missed counting the number of phases. Yes, it indeed looks like the Pro version has 8 phases while the non-Pro has only 6 phases.
@@Miyconst So now that you know that the PRO version has 8 phases, do you think it could handle the unlocked E 2699 v3 18/36? because the 6-phase MR9A section might be too weak for this processor?
Hey can anyone help me with my stutters. I have thr mr9a pro and I get frequent stuttering while gaming. I have tried both the stock and 8-mf bios, locked ram to 2133mhz, above 4g and rebar, disabling hpet, and fresh windows 10 install
Hi, I want to build my first PC and am looking for a Xeon CPU boot. Are there also xeon CPUs that can handle 1440p or which xeon CPU would you recommend?
If you're going to build a Xeon gaming rig, prioritise higher clock speeds and high single thread performance over insanely high core counts bro. Its also worth mentioning that most games don't benefit from the level of multithreading peformance that the 12 core,14 core, 16 core, 18 core, 20 core and 22 core Xeons were designed for. I made the mistake of buying a 2698 v3.😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️ What the X99 community wont tell you, is a lot of the higher core, low clock rate CPUs more or less requires you to flash your bios and undervolt your CPU so all cores are in turbo mode for optimal gaming. Undervolting and flashing your bios is not something a first time PC builder should be worrying about imo. The post is getting long so I will state my recommendation...Go for a 1650v4 or go 1660v4 if you are obsessed with more cores. Anything else and its more of a workstation than a gaming rig.
@@Miyconst In fairness, the higher core V3 CPUs that you tested were either overclocked or you flashed your motherboard to enable turbo on all cores. So its not the fairest test as you cant do the same on the V4's. It's worth mentioning that not everyone is as confident or as skilled as you are at tuning their rigs as you are mate. I'm purely talking about out of the box performance here mate. The out of the box clock speeds are too slow 🐌 on the higher core Xeons for gaming. Im not going to be disrespectful and mention other TH-cam channels on here but let's just say I've seen other videos on TH-cam were the 1600's V4s consistently beats the other Xeons *WITHOUT TUNING* in most games that are more optimised for GPU.
firts of all, great channel, professional, thanks 4 that, my question is, Mi899 has NON pro bios version, TBU is Op with this pro version?? thanks in advance!!!!!!
I recently bought a Machinist MR9A v1.0 with a Xeon 2697V3 and it works like a charm, with this said is there any iEngineer Bios for the regular version instead of the PRO ? Do you even recommend me to flash it if it is the case?
The iEngineer BIOS works with Pro and non-Pro versions. If you are happy with the PC in it's current state - there is absolutely no reason to mess with the BIOS.
Another great video. Can you take some pictures of the BIOS chip? I have a hot air rework station and can probably swap that chip for something better. A lot of those serial BIOS chips are low voltage now and those CH341 flashers will absolutely fry them. I messed up the BIOS on an RS9 with a bad flash, and I'll never use that again. You can have it if you want.
Three flaws: 1- It doesn't specify it in its description, but of the two M.2 ports it has, one is NVMe and the other is SATA. 2- The sound card delivers terrible audio, and the front 3.5 jack doesn't work for me. 3- The small VRM fan starts to hum very annoyingly after a while, you have to buy a few 30x30x7mm Brushless fans in advance. The M.2 ports don't surprise me, they should be clearly specified. I've tried audio drivers but I haven't been able to do it. Two years with it.
Yes, the older revisions had one SATA and one NVMe slot, the newer ones come with two NVMe. The sound card and the VRM fan are sadly just poor quality of your unit. AliExpress is a lottery, as I always say.
@Miyconst Thanks for the videos. I really like using the 1650 & 1660 v4 and im looking for a mobo that sleep works out of the box and that I dont have to do anything to the bios.
я свою прошку прошив біосом від mr9a - і ресайзабл бар і таймінги працюють, і андервольт 1660v4 u XTU. vrm fan я відключив взагалі. у мене ззаді плати встановлений 80mm low profile fan @5v - silent
The USB 2.0 on this motherboad does not work for me.... I thought everything works well until plug in USB storage to front USB 2.0 port.....Back side all work. But not the one from board. So frustrated😂😂
@@Miyconst I tried three different chass cables...Also reset CMOS....It is OK to ignore it，but not feel well. I am engineer myself. Just want to see if you ever met this problem.before. looks not. I bought my very cheap for only 57 US dollar after tax....
@@yufish6576 I have got all sorts of issues with the Chinese X99 motherboards but most of the time it's the USB 3.0 ports, the USB 2.0 ports usually work as they should.
Thank you for sharing all this knowledge. Question: does the MR9A bios work with the PRO version? Another: Is there any way to set Bus speed to 100? (not 99. something) Ukrainian Force, you are brave!
@@Miyconst it really sucks how Intel no longer makes quad channel 10-18 core chips anymore with avx-512, everything else is locked on Intel which has avx-512, AMD is unlocked but does not have avx-512, which is very important for my workload, that and clock speed which is why being unlocked is important.
It turns out that I have missed one very important detail: X99-MR9A Pro has 8 phases VRM while X99-MR9A non-Pro has only 6 phases. The MOSFETs are and their configuration is identical between the motherboards.
Thank you for sharing all this knowledge. Question: does the MR9A bios work with the PRO version? Another: Is there any way to set Bus speed to 100? (not 99. something) Ukrainian Force, you are brave!
In the next program update, the ZSUS P4 motherboard will be added
Have been overclocking in this motherboard and no overheating or crashing! It's a banger!
nice sharing！
I buy "Pro Max". How much max power for CPU this motherboard? 2690v4 its ok?
Another great video, reminding us that Miyconst remains the best source of X99/C612 information on TH-cam.
Chinese X99 mobos do not have X99/C612 chipset, so this is a poor source of information
Certainly correct for most of the boards. Some of the Chinese dual-socket ones do use C612. That's my only real interest in this scene, admittedly.
@@andrewsturmey I've been on the subject of lga2011 for two years and only recently I find out what the real chipset is. it's sad, I watched a lot of materials on YT and no one mentioned this little detail. I'll watch your video now.
I had no idea what I was buying with my first board, and it was a bit of a disaster. I've done three videos on “X99” stuff now, and come to realise it's definitely a false economy. Fun though. Definitely cannot trust the people who manufacture these boards, mind you.
I love my MR9a, at first i regret it because the pro seems a bit better, but i hate small fans on vrms and never had the need to use m.2 wifi modules, so the mr9a was the rigth choice. Nice comparison sir, have a good one.
For around $50-60, these boards still represent a fairly good value when paired with a well priced v3 Xeon. It's just harder and harder to recommend paying $100-150 on the Xeon v3 platforms when used Ryzen is also fairly affordable. The big attraction for me is dual x16 slots AND dual NVMe drives with 40 PCIE lane v3 CPUs
Very true, paying premium for a "high end" X99 motherboard from AliExpress makes zero sense.
Hello and congratulations for the video. Can you tell me on which RAM channels should I install two DDR memory banks to take advantage of the dual channel?
You can use any. This motherboard has one slot per channel.
Another great video. Thansk for reviewing these aliexpress MB´s. I had allready orderd a Machinist X99-K9 for a homelab build.
Awesome review. Every time I have a question about the X99 platform you have the answer. Your work is much appreciated!
I am glad to hear that!
Congratulations on the great work, I met you through the Brazilian Mario Mazzoti channel.
I am a user of two Xeons, I would like to know what you think about the end of support for Windows 10 and the limitation of Windows 11 for use on this LGA 2011-3 platform.
I know that it is possible to install Windows 11 by changing the registry, but honestly I am thinking about using my Xeons only with Linux.
I don't care about end of Windows 10 support, it might even be better because we would get annoying updates so often. 😂
windows 11 works just fine on my mr9a, preinstalled on ssd. drivers autoupdated, and windows is autoupdating and working fine.
Create win11 USB key with Rufus !
@@STK34761 you can install Windows 11 on unsupported hardware but the games like Valorant and similar won't work without TPM 2.0 either way.
Hi, I'm planning to upgrade my PC to these cheap Xeons and motherboards that you've reviewed. I'm curious as to how well they do in the long term? I won't be doing any intensive tasks, I'll mostly just play e-sports and casual games. Would you recommend these motherboards for long term use?
Anything that comes from AliExpress is a lottery. You may get a good sample that lasts for years or a bad sample that dies in a few months.
@Miyconst That's unfortunate. Based on your experience, how many stayed alive and well for months?
Hi Miyconst, I have a graphic card with a 6 pin connector, however, my psu does not have 6 pin connectors. Is it possible to use an 8 pin connector, leaving 2 pins out? What would you recommend on these cases?
Yes, you can use the 8 pin PCI-E connector in the 6-pin.
Hey. So I got machinist x99 mr9a pro max with E5 2697 V3 and I successfully unlocked the turbo mode. However I got problem with enabling SLI, the option is simply not available in control panel. I got 2x Titan X Pascal. I can't find the option in bios to change PCIe lanes distribution. At first the second GPU was recognized as x16 1.1 but after some tinkering I got it to work at x16 2.0, the first GPU is working normally at x16 3.0. I don't know what else to do, I wanted to make SLI build so much and it failed... Can you help me bro?
I can't help you, sorry. SLI is a proprietary Nvidia technology and it won't work on this motherboard.
@Miyconst so the seller just lied to me. I asked him if it'll work and he said yes. I guess I need to try get my money back. Thanks for the answer
@@Patrykos2 these sellers are completely ignorant and oblivious, he didn't necessarily lie to you, he might be just clueless.
Thank you for your very informative video. I bought this motherboard at a good price and built a second X99 computer for general use. I watched your previous MR9A video. Furthermore, I tried to use the non-ECC bus 2666 Kingston Fury RAM, but it did not boot up. So I went to the ECC ram, and it boots normally.
Have a great day, and keep up the good work. I love your content. I will follow you.
🙏🏼👍💪
Hello, did this happen after flashing the bios from ieng?
Love the MR9A, turbo unlocked 2666v3 works great, and vrm temps are acceptable
MR9A has 2 smart fan ports that works, CPU and sys header. You can control it using a open source software like fan controller and you can set a curve and temperature sensors. I tested and works perfectly with any pwm fan.
Thanks for the extra info!
sys is 3pin so it works through voltage regulation? does it work with Linux or the bios fan curve?
@@VinnyG919 Iam talking about the second 4Pin header PWM, the curve could be modified by the software on windows.
@@VinnyG919 i'm also curious to know if the 3pin ones are able of voltage control like It use to be in known motherboards.
Hello, Do you know if the BIOS of the Machinist MR9A V1.0 in the Mi899 tool are compatible with the Machinist MR9A PRO MAX? I want to use TBU and Undervolt in my Motherboard, thank you!
It should be compatible but I can guarantee absolutely nothing when it comes to the Chinese motherboards.
Thanks for your videos, very informative. Have you tried to flash the MR9A Pro with the CH341? I have followed your instruction video but have not been able to read the bios.
No, I did not try CH341a on the Pro version, FPT worked for me just fine.
@@Miyconst Yes I also initially flashed iEngineer bios with FPT without any problem but now FPT give error when trying to flash back to stock or other iEngineer releases
If you had to choose between Machinist MR9A and Huananzhi F8, which would be your preferred board?
X99-F8 if the price is the same, MR9A if we take the current Ali prices.
Hello there! Quick question, does my X99 mobo need a fan for the VRM in order to safely run a 2680 V3 with TBU? Should I get the MR9A or MR9A-Pro for a 2680 V3? I am planning to game with this setup.
Having VRM fan is always good. Whether you need or not depends on your setup. MR9A-Pro has a better VRM, so if possible, I would go with it.
I've been looking at these boards but never considered them seriously. I might buy one to put some spare parts from my old HP Z440. Great video.
Hi @Miyconst Bought a Qiyida X99 with e5 2680 v4, pairing it with an AMD Rx 7900 GRE. Will the Qiyida X99 be good?
Hi. Please watch my review about the motherboard. th-cam.com/video/3eVSYuw_5Pg/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared
Could you update Mii889 to have the X99-MR9A PRO MAX or the is no point cause it to similar to the regular mr9a and mra pro ?
As far as I know these motherboards use identical BIOS but Chinese update the motherboard specs with no prior notice so you can always get compatibility issues.
I have a question: Is this an original x99 motherboard and does it deliver enough power to the processor?
Please just watch the video. 😀
im trying to set up one of these mobos with an rx580 8gb and it works great but i dont know how to upgrade the bios. i have a 2687w v4 in it right now. the mr9a pro, also unsure exactly how to undervolt the cpu. been a long time since ive been in an ami bios. it works great right now with a modded win 11 avoiding tpm. just have it on a test bench playing around. wanna try an arc a770 just not sure if drivers could be a problem. alot fun tinkering though.
It's not possible to undervolt V4 Xeons as far as I know, also if the system works, why or what for do you need to flash the BIOS?
Do you know how to get a NVME SSD to show up in the bios? i have 2 and neither one will show up in the bios anywhere and i cant install my OS onto them or use them as storage. ive tried both the m.2 slots and a pcie x16 card and they still wont be recognized anywhere.
Ive found 4 other posts online with this same problem but still no solution.
Could you please specify what SSDs you have?
@@Miyconst WD NVME 1TB and my MOBO fried itself after more issues than ive ever had with any pc. i changeed the mobo and ive had no problems. ill never buy machinest again
Hello! Please tell me the BIOS for overclocking 1660v3 for MR9A. There is no overclocking option in the stock one. I tried to flash the BIOS from other boards and found unstable operation or the computer did not start at all. When I put back 2697v3 everything worked. I would really like instructions on adding an overclocking option for 16xxv3 series processors for MR9A to the standard BIOS if there is such a possibility
Please just watch this video it answers your question.
I still don't see the X99 MR9A Pro listed in your Mi-899 program. Which makes me wonder how you were able to flash the MR9A Pro BIOS, when you don't seem to specifically share a link to explain the flashing process described as "working really well" in this video. It's not in your blog either, I looked. I just can't take a risk on using the wrong BIOS for my main PC right now. Is this a blind spot? Or did you simply not mention that the old X99 section and BIOS options work for MR9A Pro as well?
MR9A and MR9A Pro share the BIOS. Please download the latest Mi899 app and select MR9A as your motherboard then pick desired BIOS. Also, with Chinese motherboards I can never guarantee BIOS compatibility, even if two boards are called the same and look the same.
Mine is the pro version and I noticed 2 strange behaviors. First, the HDD led doesn't work when reading NVME in either of the two slots. Second, only one front USB 2.0 port works, the other doesn't, USB 3.0 port works fine.
Maybe a bit off-topic but I am trying to install the iengineer bios on my machinist board.
Not really sure how to do it though.
I am trying from linux and it looks like I need to use fwupd.
Do you know of any guides for this? Like, how do I tell it to use the .ROM file?
The iEngineer BIOS must be flashed with a programmer, at least it's so according to his instructions. Myself I never flashed BIOS from Linux, it's just such a pain.
@@Miyconst ugh. Well I have a programmer on its way I just thought I would try the software approach while I waited for it to arrive.
Not going to install windows for it though.
Guess I’ll just wait for the programmer.
I'm having same issue with Defective MR9A the audio stopped working on its own, the VRM is overheating also which causing the motherboard to restart. I think it is a problem that came from the manufacturer
Thanks for the report, it helps me maintaining the statistics.
what about ZSUS X99-P4/8P4 + 2650v4 combo for very cheap ? i got this bundle with 1x16gb ddr4 for about 188pln . Worthy of anything or just wasted my money ?
It really depends on what you expect from it 😀, I didn't test the motherboard so can't say much.
@@Miyconstsecond pc in case of failure in main PC / simple nas most probably will be it use . maybe some tinkering with linux / vm's if i will have enough time :P
So, basically you want a cheap toy, then yes, it might be a good deal.
@@Miyconst you are probably kind of right . Lately, I've been getting more joy from messing around / tinkering with hardware than later using it . I have some spare parts , needed just platform , want something cheap to tinker with but something I can repurpose later - not just throw it into corner because it's barely usable or it will die in just few months .
@@Miyconst how similar in terms of performance to Ryzen 1600AF ( basically Ryzen 2600 -150mhz ) should I expect 2650v4 to be ?
What's the catch with this iengineering bios?
Are there more videos explaining and teaching how to use on this mobo? MR9A PRO
You can watch all the BIOS info on the iEngineer's TH-cam channel. It can be flashed with Mi899 that uses FPT.
@@Miyconst thanks!
Hi, did you try the MR9A Pro Max? It seems like ti cost a little bit less now than the MR9A Pro (like 7/8 euro)
I have not tested this exact model, sorry.
Hello @miyconst, I was wondering of you think the huanzhi 8-mf bios with tu and 70/50 would work with my mr9a pro (q87) and xeon e5 2697v3?
The BIOS is compatible but there is no guarantee that your CPU will tolerate such voltage reduction.
@@Miyconst thank you, I'll flash it it fpt and 50/50 to be safe
I have MR9A + 2697V3. It works at -50 per core on a standard BIOS with turbo boost unlocked. The flight was normal for 3 months. To ventilate the VRM, I bought a bracket for installing a cooler and an Arctic 80 mm cooler
Thanks for this video. I just bought this board and, if possible, I would like to make you a couple of questions: is there a chance with its original BIOS to turn off the USB ports after the shut down? Other than this taking into account that I'm not intersted on overclocking etc, would it be worth to change the BIOS with the iEngineer (honestly for me it's too risky the procedure using an external flasher)...thanks!
As I said in the video, I flashed iEngineer BIOS using FPT tool so at least for me, a programmer was not required. The USB shut down I didn't really test, so can't comment on that, sorry.
@@Miyconst no problem...I'll flash the iEngineer in case directly as you did, thanks!
@@Miyconst another question, I don't know the flashing program you suggested, could you please give me a link where I can donwload it?
You can use Mi899 to prepare a flash script for you, the latest version has "Select BIOS" button so you can flash any BIOS from your hard drive, not only from the read-made collection.
@@Miyconst Excellent so I download th iEngineer file, I place it on a folder and then execute your program?
Thanks for the great video as always, one question where did you get that intel stock lga 2011-3 CPU fan? I'm struggling to find one. the only one that I was able to find is the Noctua NH-D9DX i4 3U but it's not very cheap. What do you suggest?
I can't find these coolers any more. This particular one I got accidentally from an old prebuild PC.
@@Miyconst Ok thanks, any suggestion for a cheap CPU cooler 2011-3 narrow?
@@federicopullini6206 just browse Ali, there are a few options, I can't post links here but you can ping me on Discord and I will help finding something.
Are there any AliExpress X99 boards that support overlocking the Xeon e5-1650 v3 along with quad channel memory without any bios modifications as well as minimal problems - or - am I simply better off buying a used ASUS X99 A II or other brand name board off eBay?
A used branded board is your best bet.
I've just got the MR9A 1.0 and i thank you for sharing your experience with the bios flashing; if your MR9A 1.0 got bricked with e-ingeneer Bios i won't take that risk, i'll instead try the Huananzhi 8M-F thanks to your reccomendation as well, i only have a little doubt: i see everywhere this bios are made for the B85 chipset and sometimes the C226 or both but... my motherboard has the Q87 one ! i guess it will be compatible but this things seems to have a dregree of uncertainity... i havent seen enough info to be sure about it so i guess i will just try to flash it and cross fingers, thanks again Miyconst
The BIOS compatibility question I answered here:
th-cam.com/users/livetKGUWnEUShE?feature=share
Would you recommend using ECC ram or normal ram. I was considering getting the pro version with xeon e5-2650 v4 and 16gb ddr4 normal ram.
I prefer ECC RAM, it's cheaper and often performs better.
@@Miyconst alright thanks! Would 3200MHz be alright? Some mobos cap the frequency to 2666Mhz or below
Hi can you upload this bios i just buy MACHINIST MR9A PRO X99 and need to lock turbo boost on e5 2666 v3
Hi. All the BIOS options are already uploaded to Mi899 GitHub repository.
@@MiyconstThank you for response i check your program and still cant find MACHINIST MR9A PRO i see is MACHINIST MR9A 1.0 but i'm not sure if this will be okay flash bios from other model ?
These two motherboards use the same BIOS.
I recently bought an Xeon E5 2676v3. Ive got the Zsus X99-8D3 Mainboard with HM55 Chipset. Do you think I can mod it with your tutorials and guides? Im asking because I dont know if its technical possible because of this Chipset and I want to minimize the risk of killing the Bios. Thanks for your help, ur videos are great.
As far as I know my TBU and ReBar guides work with any chipset but your motherboard is unknown to me, so I can't guarantee any compatibility.
does your motherboard have a x99/ c612 chipset? in the store it says that it comes with either b85 / c226 or q87, great review by the way, I am currently looking for a motherboard to pair with a xeon E5 1660 v3 for overclocking, and i have been eying the Jingsha D8 or the SZMZ S3.
My motherboard had B85 chipset, you can find all specs in my slides by the end of the video.
@@Miyconst sorry, I was watching on the phone, didn't catch that, have a good day
i want to ask, the X99-MR9A Pro and the X99-MR9A is good, in my local market theres only X99-MR9A Pro MAX. do u recomend this and maybe u have tested it or maybe search for another known tested motherboard
I did not test the Pro MAX variation but as far as I know it's the same motherboard underneath, just a slightly different appearance. You can check what chipset is installed. If it's a desktop version like Q85/87, Z87/97 then it's most likely the same motherboard.
Hello miyconst is it possible to undervolt xeon e5 v3 cpu's with bios from iengineer like with the premade biosses that are in mi899?
That's only possible if you make undervolted mods based on the iEngineer BIOS.
@@Miyconst so it is possible if i inject -100mv into the bios from iengineer
Does the the Machinist x99-MR9a pro an have a C99, C612, B85 or something else chip set? I am asking because I see a seller listing it as a B85 chipset.
It's random desktop chipset, like B85, Q87, Z87 or similar.
Hi , thanks a lot for all. Can do video with cluster 2 mr9a ? I have 2 mra9 kits with 4 Geforce GTX 760. I will try made AI Labs for my studies.
Wow. After watching this i cannot pick between MR9A Pro, Huananzhi F8 or Huananzhi TF. I want to use 3060 non ti. Does it really just come down to price at this point?
Yes, I would pick the cheapest one.
@@Miyconst I appreciate your advice. MR9A Pro + MR9S iEngineer BIOS seams best bang for buck way to go.
Hi, just received my mr9a and after one first boot to windows.... Now I'm stuck on machinist splash screen logo. I have test 2 ram psu cpu v4 gpu and cmos and reseat ram and cpu ... Nothing! Just 2 bip and stuck. Already dead ? Impossible to enter in the bios.
Sounds like it's already dead. 😢 Open a dispute and send it back.
I got the mr9a pro max with a xeon 2695v4 I'm stuck with a 20 Watt power 😢
@miyconst aliexpress now has mr9 PRO MAX X99 motherboard. Any chance you might cover this review in future video?
It may happen but so far I don't have any immediate plans.
@@Miyconst potential future content perhaps
it's a bad idea disconnect vrm fan? (2666 v3 TU)
It will be just fine if you have good airflow in the chassis.
Hi Miyconts, i want to get this motherboard and E5 2696 v3.
It can disable cores from bios? I want to set this CPU at 12 cores whitout HT and TBU with Undervolt.
Yes, it's possible to disable CPU cores with Huananzhi BIOS but I don't remember if the original Machinist BIOS has this feature.
Looks like the best option for overclocking.
Hi, this motherboard doesn't go up to 3200 mhz for ddr4 ram? Thanks
Non of the Chinese boards go up to DDR4-3200.
@@Miyconst Thanks for the reply, and do any models of Asus, Asrock, Gigabyte, MSI x99 boards go up to 3200 MHz DDR4?
@@XiphophorusMaculatus most of them do but only with i7 CPUs and only if the CPU is good enough for that speed.
@@Miyconst do chinese x99 motherboards for xeon E5 max out at 2400mhz ram?
@@XiphophorusMaculatus every motherboard maxes out at DDR4-1866/2133/2400 with locked Xeon E5 CPUs, only some unlocked Xeons like E5-1650 V3/1660 V3 support higher speeds on branded motherboards.
Interested to see how these boards support RDIMM modules, as there’s a lot of cheap high capacity server RDIMM modules out there now and I’m in need of a workstation with a lot of memory
What do you mean with "how"? I have tested 32 GB DDR4-2133 LRDIMM modules for 128 GB of RAM in total - no issues.
@@Miyconst sorry, I meant higher capacity LRDIMM modules - 64GB and 128GB specifically. Some are platform locked (I’ve seen reports of the HP Enterprise stuff being like this) but some are generic and might work
Have you encountered an issue with this board as below,
Whenever I open device manager I see heaps of base system devices missing etc
The moment the system seems to check or scan devices it immediately reboots.
It is Windows 10, fresh install
I am struggling to ensure all devices are installed.
It also reboots the moment I try and install drivers from AMD adrenaline, and the audio driver link you have included also.
I managed to get all drivers installed but the one problem I still encounter is if I run AMD adrenaline installer (I have an RX 6700 non XT) the moment the installer opens, I hear the hardware disconnect sound and the PC restarted itself.
Now after a few windows updates, it restarts and then immediately after I see it complete post and windows loads, windows goes straight to "shutting down" and repeats the cycle.
Very frustrating, I was very excited to get to use this.
Taking up so much time with clean OS installs and iengineer bios flashed, still can't crack this problem.
It sounds like you may have a hardware failure. In general it's enough to install all Windows updates including the optional ones.
@@Miyconst I've installed all Windows updates and optional also.
I'll flash back the original BIOS and try and return it.
But I'll also make sure it isn't a compatibility issue with my GPU being too new.
I did however to get all drivers installed need to use PowerShell to install them in bulk as the second a program seems to state "your device needs a restart to complete installation" the PC immediately reboots.
Might even be the PSU perhaps as it keeps stating "PC has woke from low power state" or along those lines.
Troubleshooting... Such a pain
Thanks for taking the time to respond.
@@Miyconst do you know if the PCIE gen can be selected in the BIOS from iengineer? I am attempting to use a gen 4 GPU which I know should just work but I've heard some people have issues with the generation being set to auto detect on other motherboards and changing it to be 3 fixed their issues
@@Miyconst got it sorted. It was a PCIE USB hub causing my issues. Even though it was working, it was the issue.
Can I use an RX 5700 XT with the non-pro mother board
Yes, you can.
Techyescity also mentioned this in machinist motherboards. Unlocking turbo boost is a pain in the butt cheeks. You have to double the step and there's a chance that the bios may break.
Also it sucks that its temperature sensors doesn't work. Most of us can't afford a thermal camera
Is it recomended to purchase these boards in those xeon v4 bundles, or should i buy the components separately?
Usually it is safer to buy as a set with CPU and RAM but don't pay extra for it. If individual components are cheaper - buy individually.
@@Miyconst thanks
So what’s exactly the matter about bricking the board using some bios flashing program ? Is mi899 toolset safe to use ?!
Nothing is safe when it comes to flashing the BIOS. Mi899 doesn't do anything with the BIOS though, it only prepares ready to use scripts for FPT and/or AfuWin.
Hello 👋 i have E5 2680V4 and 8gb ecc ddr4 rx580 and i want to build a cheap gaming rig i also live in cold environment will you recommend me x99 mr9a non pro and I’m limited to ali express ?
In your case MR9A Pro and non-Pro will work just fine but I would strongly suggest you get 16 GB of RAM.
Is there anyway to measure the correct temperature and power ?
CPU temperature is measured and reported by the CPU, so it's correct even with the Chinese boards. For accurate power consumption measures you need an external wattmeter.
Dude i have this one its been nothing but headaches. its got a Q87 South bridge so my m.2 slots only 1 works the secound one is useless. idk about the wifi m.2. also my m.2 4 slot pcie x16 card only 1 slot works at a time. I cant overclock the ram, sometimes when I update windows 10 it frags the whole thing requiring a fresh install, and when i tried repolacing the cmos battery 3 days ago after completely unpowering everything it fried the mobo. ive never had a worse mobo ill never by mashinist again
Well.. as I keep mentioning in every video, AliExpress is a lottery and should be avoided if possible.
Is mr9a pro iengineer bios publucly available, motherboard strong enough for e5 1660 v3 for 4ghz 1.2 v?
The BIOS is commercial, you can buy it from his Patreon page.
@@Miyconst And what's your opinion, what makes more sense on that motherboard and overclocked E5 1660 V3 or a E5 2690 v4, lastly, why don't Chinese motherboards ever have a bclk adjuster ?
I would go with E5-2690 V4. BCLK overclocking is hard and expensive to implement, at the same time it's almost useless because it affects stability of the devices connected to the PCI-E bus.
@@Miyconst Thanks I appreciate the help as always
I'm just asking, but have you ever seen these Machinist motherboards on Amazon? I saw some of your reviews and looked at the ones on amazon and they look different (for example the K9 has 2 extra SATA ports on Amazon...)
I have seen several of these boards on Amazon. The K9 with two extra SATA is just a newer revision, it's also available on AliExpress.
I bought this one and I facing problems to get full gigabit speed. Anyone is facing something similar? Using original bios here.
What is the problem and what is your full PC specification?
Im using a MR9A PRO, 2680V4, 32GB quad-channel. The problem is that my onboard network card can't reach gigabit speed (capped at 10 Mb/s). I'm using proxmox but already tried install windows 11, mint and pop-os. If a connect other machine on same setup (router+cable) It reaches gigabit speed.
I tried different drivers, disabled ASPM in bios for PCIe and DMI, disabled IPv6, changed energy plans. Nothing worked.
This bios from iEngineer which you use for MR9A PRO will fit to MR9A? and this bios which you use is named MACHINIST E5-MR9S BX99DA14 GAMERS BIOS on page where bios is selling? and which bios will be better for MR9A (non PRO) this from iEngineer or this from Huananzhi X99-8M-F? what do you think?
The E5-MR9S is an internal Chinese name for the same motherboard, thus I would pick it but the X99-9M-F BIOS should be compatible as well.
@@Miyconst E5-MR9S have 8 ram slot but MR9A PRO and MR9A have 4 ram slot
@@dzikiszerszen2798 the number of RAM slots does not make a difference for the BIOS, the onboard devices and PCI-E routing makes a difference.
Hello, thank you for the video it is very nice and informative !
Do you think this motherboard would work with E5 2630Lv4 cpu, with 64gb of ecc ddr4 and a gtx 1070 gpu ?
I want to build a server for proxmox
Yes, I think that should work but of course I can't guarantee that.
hi..what do you recommend I buy as motherboard and CPU? I have a miserable gtx 1050ti
What use case, what budget, what stores are available?
@@Miyconst I don't use the PC much... every now and then to play when it happens.. I have a build done 4 years ago.. an i5 4460.
I wanted something more
@@pakopi3294 Core i3-12100 or Ryzen 5 3600 are great options and often can be found for very low price.
@@Miyconst if I would like to get the Chinese mobo and a xeon cpu would it be ok?
@@pakopi3294 sure, why not?
I would love if you could test the Zsus P4. I think it also goes by Huananzhi P4. I'm having hard time getting the turbo to actually turbo that well. Same CPU on different motherboard (QD4) gives me 20 to 30% better performance.
I really doubt that I will bother with that motherboard, it's just too weak.
@@Miyconst That's fair. The quality is a bit all over the place. I'll upgrade it to something better in the future :D
How does the x99-MR9A Pro Max compare against this Pro-only version?
I did not test the Pro MAX so I can't comment on it but looks like the same motherboard with slightly different cosmetics.
I had no luck with machinist Motherboard i bought the mr9a and its just doing a long beep and the mr9s just won't work
The long beep usually indicates missing or unsupported GPU. Try with another CPU/GPU and use another PCI-E slot.
@@Miyconst thanks the mr9a is now working do you have an idea for the MR9S ? its showing me error ff and its bootlooping
@@elias6415 FF means something is really bad, so you either have a corrupted BIOS, a dead motherboard, or a short circuit.
@@Miyconst i tested the Board with only a CPU its still showing me FF but its no longer bootlooping so i Wonder if it wasn't my psu
Hello, I maintain the x79 platform and I want to move to the x99, I see boards with a good reputation such as the Huananzhi F8 and the TF, I follow your recommendations, and you tell me that you prefer the Machinist MR9 A PRO, I maintain an X79 Machinist V2_81B, and I have not I have had no complaints or problems, do you suggest I continue with Machinist MR9 A PRO / PRO MAX
Excellent content, greetings
X99 is very old by now, it makes no sense to buy X99-F8 or similar overpriced motherboards. I would just go with MR9A or MR9A Pro.
Sorry for being totally new in this stuff! but can it game with a 2070 for example...
These server CPU's show a lot of cores and threads and what not but I'm not familiar with XEON vs I7 jaddy jaddy
Why am I only learning about this now! ?
Can I really build an cheap PC that packs a big punch?
Please just watch my benchmarks for answers. Yes, you can have with RTX 2070 and a Xeon but performs varies from game to game.
In the description, the X99-MR9A (Pro) has an 8 phase power section and the X99-MR9A has a 6 phase power section, but in the video you say that both boards have an identical power section, so what does it actually look like? Because in your video you can see the difference in the construction of the section, but you say that it is identical, can you explain what it actually looks like?
What description are you talking about? My X99-MR9A and X99-MR9A Pro have exactly the same VRM that you can see at 02:35 on this video but Chinese could have degraded the MR9A non-PRO VRM to cut costs.
@@Miyconst On ali, the description states that the PRO version has 8 phases and the non-pro version has 6 phases and in your video you can also see that the PRO version has a different power supply section because it has 8 coils (square cubes), and the non-pro version has only 6 coils, in addition, the pro version has more mosfets than the non-pro version and in your video at 2.15 minutes you can see the difference between the power supply sections of the motherboard of both models and everywhere I look, this is how it is stated that the PRO version has 8 phases and the non-pro version has 6 phase power section
@@dzikiszerszen2798 oh, man! You are absolutely right. I got so focused on checking what MOSFETs are installed that I totally missed counting the number of phases. Yes, it indeed looks like the Pro version has 8 phases while the non-Pro has only 6 phases.
@@Miyconst So now that you know that the PRO version has 8 phases, do you think it could handle the unlocked E 2699 v3 18/36? because the 6-phase MR9A section might be too weak for this processor?
@@dzikiszerszen2798 I think, both of the boards can handle it with proper VRM cooling but of course the Pro version is the preferred option.
Have you tried flashing coreboot on any of these boards?
No, as far as I know it's not possible.
@@Miyconst
Alright. Still worth asking. Supposedly dt-zero works on these boards equipped with Xeons.
Hey can anyone help me with my stutters. I have thr mr9a pro and I get frequent stuttering while gaming. I have tried both the stock and 8-mf bios, locked ram to 2133mhz, above 4g and rebar, disabling hpet, and fresh windows 10 install
I don't think it's possible to provide any help with such a description. At least we need to know the full system specs and games you play.
@@Miyconst machinist mr9a pro
E5 2697 v3
16gb ddr4 udimm kingbank 3600mhz ram.
Rx 6650xt (adrenalin 24.4.1)
Evga 800w ge
Kingston 240gb ssd, windows 10 pro installed
Games
Apex legends
Call of duty cold War
Subnautica
All tested with same results
Hi, I want to build my first PC and am looking for a Xeon CPU boot. Are there also xeon CPUs that can handle 1440p or which xeon CPU would you recommend?
It depends on the game. But on 1440p ur most likely to be GPU bottlenecked. I would suggest the E5 2680v3, pretty decent Xeon i think.
It really depends on your budget and wishes. In general, the higher resolution is the stronger GPU you need.
If you're going to build a Xeon gaming rig, prioritise higher clock speeds and high single thread performance over insanely high core counts bro. Its also worth mentioning that most games don't benefit from the level of multithreading peformance that the 12 core,14 core, 16 core, 18 core, 20 core and 22 core Xeons were designed for. I made the mistake of buying a 2698 v3.😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️
What the X99 community wont tell you, is a lot of the higher core, low clock rate CPUs more or less requires you to flash your bios and undervolt your CPU so all cores are in turbo mode for optimal gaming. Undervolting and flashing your bios is not something a first time PC builder should be worrying about imo.
The post is getting long so I will state my recommendation...Go for a 1650v4 or go 1660v4 if you are obsessed with more cores. Anything else and its more of a workstation than a gaming rig.
@@-_-DatDude please watch this video before recommending E5-1600 V4 CPUs: th-cam.com/video/2PoNkYCfOcI/w-d-xo.html
@@Miyconst In fairness, the higher core V3 CPUs that you tested were either overclocked or you flashed your motherboard to enable turbo on all cores. So its not the fairest test as you cant do the same on the V4's. It's worth mentioning that not everyone is as confident or as skilled as you are at tuning their rigs as you are mate.
I'm purely talking about out of the box performance here mate. The out of the box clock speeds are too slow 🐌 on the higher core Xeons for gaming. Im not going to be disrespectful and mention other TH-cam channels on here but let's just say I've seen other videos on TH-cam were the 1600's V4s consistently beats the other Xeons *WITHOUT TUNING* in most games that are more optimised for GPU.
Dies the MR9A handle 2697v3 turbo unlocked?
It does, with good airflow in the chassis.
@@Miyconst excellent
firts of all, great channel, professional, thanks 4 that, my question is, Mi899 has NON pro bios version, TBU is Op with this pro version?? thanks in advance!!!!!!
Yes, MR9A and MR9A Pro use the same BIOS, at least my samples were such.
I recently bought a Machinist MR9A v1.0 with a Xeon 2697V3 and it works like a charm, with this said is there any iEngineer Bios for the regular version instead of the PRO ? Do you even recommend me to flash it if it is the case?
The iEngineer BIOS works with Pro and non-Pro versions. If you are happy with the PC in it's current state - there is absolutely no reason to mess with the BIOS.
Que opinas de éstas dos Placas Madre.
- Machinist X99 MR9A PRO
- Machinist X99 MR9A PRO MAX.
Cuál es más actual, y con menos problemas..... Gracias 👍
Both have the same quality and the same number of issues. I would pick the cheapest of the two.
I run one of these in a home server, has anyone got a fix for the CPU telemetry problem at all?
I am afraid the fix is not that simple since the motherboard physically lacks some sensors.
Another great video. Can you take some pictures of the BIOS chip? I have a hot air rework station and can probably swap that chip for something better. A lot of those serial BIOS chips are low voltage now and those CH341 flashers will absolutely fry them. I messed up the BIOS on an RS9 with a bad flash, and I'll never use that again. You can have it if you want.
Where can I share pics of the BIOS chip? I have CH341A with adjustable voltage so it shouldn't be fried but you never know..
@@Miyconst The CH341As will do 5v/3v3. A lot of BIOS chips are 1v8 now. The CH341A will still work, but you need a level shifter.
@@Miyconst I'm not sure what would work to share pictures through TH-cam. I think it generally blocks links in the comments.
Hey boss nice work. get feared about chinese hidden code. what about use coming bios?
You can buy made in Germany BIOS from iEngineer.
I wonder what you think of the X99-P4?
It looks pathetic but I didn't test it
@@Miyconst Sounds about right
Hey man what’s the difference between mr9a and mr9a-h?
The H version uses a mobile chipset, No USB/SATA 3 and BIOS compatibility is unknown.
@@Miyconst so should I buy that or is the mr9a better
I have described the difference, you decide what's important for you 😀
Three flaws:
1- It doesn't specify it in its description, but of the two M.2 ports it has, one is NVMe and the other is SATA.
2- The sound card delivers terrible audio, and the front 3.5 jack doesn't work for me.
3- The small VRM fan starts to hum very annoyingly after a while, you have to buy a few 30x30x7mm Brushless fans in advance.
The M.2 ports don't surprise me, they should be clearly specified. I've tried audio drivers but I haven't been able to do it.
Two years with it.
Yes, the older revisions had one SATA and one NVMe slot, the newer ones come with two NVMe. The sound card and the VRM fan are sadly just poor quality of your unit. AliExpress is a lottery, as I always say.
@Miyconst Thanks for the videos. I really like using the 1650 & 1660 v4 and im looking for a mobo that sleep works out of the box and that I dont have to do anything to the bios.
I see no reason to stick with X99 then.
я свою прошку прошив біосом від mr9a - і ресайзабл бар і таймінги працюють, і андервольт 1660v4 u XTU. vrm fan я відключив взагалі. у мене ззаді плати встановлений 80mm low profile fan @5v - silent
Так, в більшості випадків той VRM вахляр можна вимкнути.
Very detailed and technical as always. A great source of knowledge.
I faced problematic audio connectors as well (after 2 years of good use) - MR9A the original one. I'm thinking of replace the whole jack tower
How about the front audio connector, does that one work?
@@Miyconst yes it works well. I believe the jacks on the backpanel are low quality. I found them too thight since the board were new.
where would one find the bios for the pro version ?
In the Mi899 GitHub repository or app.
The USB 2.0 on this motherboad does not work for me.... I thought everything works well until plug in USB storage to front USB 2.0 port.....Back side all work. But not the one from board. So frustrated😂😂
Are you sure it's a problem of the motherboard, not the chassis?
@@Miyconst I tried three different chass cables...Also reset CMOS....It is OK to ignore it，but not feel well. I am engineer myself. Just want to see if you ever met this problem.before. looks not. I bought my very cheap for only 57 US dollar after tax....
@@yufish6576 I have got all sorts of issues with the Chinese X99 motherboards but most of the time it's the USB 3.0 ports, the USB 2.0 ports usually work as they should.
Thank you for sharing all this knowledge. Question: does the MR9A bios work with the PRO version? Another: Is there any way to set Bus speed to 100? (not 99. something) Ukrainian Force, you are brave!
MR9A and MR9A Pro have mutually compatible BIOS. For 100 MHz BCLK you need a custom BIOS, for example the one from iEngineer.
@@Miyconst Thank you
Is this compatible with XEON E5 2699 V4?
It most likely is.
I wished they made budget 3647 or 2066 motherboards for AVX-512 dependent workloads.
If you are purely interested in AVX-512 then Dell T7820 workstation is a good budget candidate even if the CPU support is limited.
@@Miyconst it really sucks how Intel no longer makes quad channel 10-18 core chips anymore with avx-512, everything else is locked on Intel which has avx-512, AMD is unlocked but does not have avx-512, which is very important for my workload, that and clock speed which is why being unlocked is important.
I flash bios like in your video and my motherboard crash :(
Please join my Discord if you need any help, I can't assist in TH-cam comments.
What psu wattage good for xeon e5 2680 v4 with rx 580
A decent 500-600 Watt PSU will do it.
600-700w im using huananzhi x99 f8 xeon e5 2683v4 4x16gb hynix ecc 2133mhz ram rx 580 8gb and corsair vs450
I would go at least 650
For a Mr9a Pro motherboard, which iEnginner BIOS do you recommend? Mr9s motherboard BIOS or Mr9a Pro Max motherboard BIOS?

As far as I know, MR9S is another motherboard with an incompatible BIOS.
This is so far the only x99 motherboard that I have sleep working in macOS.
Which other did you test?
@@Miyconst Huananzhi QD4, Atermiter D4 Plus, Machinist PR9, Atermiter ??
Everything works except sleep.