PART 2 (Persona 5 Vanilla and Royal Differences - Prologue/Kamoshida Arc): th-cam.com/video/oZRdoDBJYK8/w-d-xo.html So, let me correct a few small errors made in this video. 3:55 - Here I state that the models in Persona 5 Royal have been ripped from Dancing. The source is an article from Inverse but I've also seen the Megami Tensei Wiki and others state similar things. However, this claim has since been disputed by some knowledgeable people in the community. Apparently, Royal uses the same models as Vanilla Persona 5, but the textures have been enhanced. 5:55 - I made an error here and claimed you only have to get Maruki to Rank 8 manually, and Rank 9&10 happen automatically. This is incorrect, you have to get Maruki to Rank 9 manually, and Rank 10 will happen automatically. 13:40 - Savage Shadows are not a new addition to Persona 5 Royal and existed in Vanilla Persona 5. They do seem to appear more commonly in Royal however. I apologize for all of these errors. And no, this series is not cancelled but has been on the backburner for quite a while, however, with Persona 5 Royal getting a recent port to all platforms I feel now would be the perfect time to continue the series, so I plan to get it started soon. Although, I also have Randomizer to upload as well so give me time.
@@fruitymcflood8198 I hate that it feels like your character doesn't have his own thoughts and can't do anything without Morgana when Mona disappears for a few days Joker doesn't do anything, in persona 4 when the story wasn't letting you do anything else, yu thought to himself that it was time to sleep making it feel like he was his own person and not just doing what his friends wanted him to
Another good change I think is worth mentioning is that in P5R, your ammo for your guns reload after every fight. This encourages you to use your guns more and a Huge quality of life upgrade in my books cause in Vanilla P5 you couldn't reload until you left the palace or used a very rare item.
I'm not a fan of this change since I felt like the guns were a resource to conserve that you shouldn't have been wasting, it makes parts of the game in royal easier since you essentially have no consequences to going guns blazing every fight
@@onemirrionyen The only 'consequence' being enemies that repel guns. P5R, I just use the gun we get from Iwai since it has High Shock. Use that for Technical then All Out Attack. Rinse & repeat.
@@onemirrionyen having ryuji shoot only like 5 times per palace run was such a hassle i basically used only Ann’s for targeting weaknesses due to its high ammo
For those who don’t have p5r and are hesitant because of the price, it goes on sale very often for about 39.99 or more depending on the sale. Specially neat if you’ve already played the original. If you can wait a little, it’ll definitely be worth the extra cash in my opinion.
This is very interesting for someone like me who played Royal but never played the vanilla version. With the exception of Kasumi I never knew what content was added in Royal and what was in the base game all along.
I actually thougt Kasumi was in the base game when I first played Royal so I was confused when I talked about the intro with someone who only played vanilla
Morgana not telling you to sleep is actually way bigger then you make it out to be, cause during that time you could at least do stuff in LeBlanc like read a book, play a video game, watch TV, exercise, make coffee etc. In the original you would lose a bunch of these opportunists because of Morgana telling you to go to sleep.
It's actually kinda shitty of atlus to not change it in 2017 ver. I bet it's nothing more than changing a couple lines of code to just disable the dialogue and block on activity
And there's a LOT of small details in Persona 5 Royal that are not in Persona 5, load screens, textures, etc. There are things you only notice while playing both games one after another, as P5 is a masterpiece, and if you play you may think there's nothing that needs to be changed there BUT after you play P5R you just can't go back to P5. That's how good an upgrade it is.
100% agreed It's honestly just a better game in every aspect, right after platinuming regular P5 I thought "Atlus, aside from difficulty, how do you top this quality or improve this?" and I ate my words gladly once I got my hands on the game. Now the game may still be easy unless you start from scratch on hard, but still, I didn't die as much as I did on SMTIV. It's also an even bigger improvement if you played P5 on PS3
Thanks for this. I JUST beat P5 last week for the first time and was debating a second playthrough (new game+) or checking out P5R. I think I will probably check out P5R instead now.
5:55 False, you need to get him to rank 9 not 8, once you get him to 9 you basically maxed him out. i think you're confusing maruki with akechi cuz you only need to get akechi to rank 8
@@Fatalis690 I'm glad I searched up how to get the 3rd semester before I hoy further into the game. I already liked maruki's confidant but I had no idea he would be necessary for it. I'm playing currently and he's locked though. Can't hang out with him at all smh
@@youssefsaleh7186 That was one thing that was disappointing about the vanilla game. I always love when RPGs add background hints of future characters early on. P5 did it a lot with events, but not so much with the characters until maybe a week or two before you meet them in-game
Its funny how you notice them all as soon as you start your NG+. You even see Akechi and Sae walk by (in shibuya iirc) on the way to school some time before kamoshida palace.
There's also sadly a story telling mechanic in the will seed but was scraped, but some people found due to a bit of hacking and was left in the coding. It is essentially a way for the player to convey each time you get a will seed, you get to see the perspective of the palace holder and their desires getting distorted, and collecting all the will seeds, you get a scene where the moment when their palaces began to manifest and after that the Palace ruler feels like someone was going through their palace, they're slowly aware of your presence. The ones that are revealed in Kamoshida and Madarame, since those are the ones found in the code. Theirs even that early part in the P5R trailer was scrapped
@@abelg9053 Must have taken longer, but that sounds so cool! We get to see Maruki getting distorted desires with time but it would have been cool to see like Kamoshida on a podium getting a golden medal and seeing the power egtting to his head, or Madarame seeing Yosuke's mother seizure and take the "Sayuri". Where do you see this scrapped stuff?
The best thing about the vanilla version is the intro and the ending. I wish there was a option in Royale to pick which intro and ending version plays in a new game.
I'm used to playing the game Age of Empires II, which has team bonuses belonging to each civilization. As the name suggests, the bonuses apply to all members of the starting team (but not any players you ally with later). Persona Traits are essentially the same kind of thing, and allow for similar strategic choosing of team members. It's a very good addition.
In the vanilla version, Makoto texts you to go for a movie date during 7/30, if you accept there's a short funny cutscene where she's waiting for you outside the theater. But in Royal, Makoto only sends you a message the 28/7 but you can only see that text if you reject Ryuji's offer to spend the day in Leblanc since he will ask you the day before to hang out during the 28th. If you decide to go with Makoto during the evening, the cutscene where she is waiting for you is completely skipped and you will be teleported directly into the movie theater with her.
I bought p5r when it was on sale for 55% off. Best purchase I've made in awhile. I already had p5 for free with the ps plus collection on ps5 so I got a taste for the game and decided to upgrade. I recommend everyone else to get royal if they can. Lots of quality of life changes. Especially with the changes to guns.
more notably, when maxing out technical, it acts as an alternate weakness that ALWAYS downs the foe, making the endgame enemies without actual weaknesses easier to hold up/recruit (assuming royal didnt downgrade the downed percent of technical just to restore it through the new upgrade, as ive only played royal)
@@loganbigmo I honestly forgot the darts and billards increase baton pass and technical damage, until I just saw this video now 💀I never did the rest of the party members to increase it, which could explain why my baton passes and tech damage did not as much as I wanted it to 😭
Any and all money is worth it for this game, even if you’ve played the content in the vanilla version and just want the third semester’s story content. It’s just that good.
Isn’t 3rd semester in of itself almost 20 hours at LEAST of extra playtime? There’s games of $60 that have less playtime than that (good games I might add). Worth it, absolutely.
I think that everyone should play Royal, because it goes on sale a LOT, plus with how long the game is, it’d make more sense to simply save up and play Royal. Also, even if you for SOME reason hate Royal stuff, for the most part you can just ignore the Royal stuff like Maruki and Kasumi.
That’s actually true yeah, if you just want your normal usual P5 experience but updated, then go right ahead! No one is forcing anyone to do any of it after all lol
i VERY MUCH appreciate the first 3 minutes of differentiating between the titles. I was avoiding persona 5 strikers because I had zero clue about it and thought it was rehashing the game I already played. Now that I know it happens after the events of 5, I may get it and actually play it.
Persona 5 and NEO The World Ends With You has some of the best voice acting I've heard in video games. The VAs are very expressive and give their all into their roles.
Agreed, The voice acting was amazing, But Disco Elysium: Final Cut is honestly the best voice acting in any game I've played by ALOT. Masterpiece, Just like Persona 5.
Another difference between vanilla and Royal is the VA for Tae Takemi is not the same. Not sure why it was changed but I really liked the Voice for the vanilla version. Royals VA wasn’t bad but after 6 playthroughs on the vanilla it definitely felt weird.
Thank you for this series! I beat Vanilla a few months ago and own Royal but haven't had the chance to pick it up yet, but hearing all these changes makes me giddy to start!!
If you're going to play Strikers after Royal and not play the Vanilla game, keep in mind that Strikers was in development before Royal, so it follows the plotline of the vanilla game. I.E. characters who appear specifically in Royal will not appear in Strikers.
It’s also good to keep in mind that Royal started development rather soon after Strikers, so they decided to cross reference the storylines to make sure that Royal would still make sense if you followed up with Strikers. Some confusing moments slipped, that’s true, but there’s nothing even remotely major that contradicts Royal in Strikers, you’re literally just missing the main characters of 3rd semester. I think they knew that Strikers was gonna come out later than Royal, despite starting development earlier.
I would like to add the fact that the ps3 version has a surprisingly large amount if mods for it, which in my eyes make it the best version of vanilla p5 (at least when emulated using rpcs3). They've modded in new outfits (including the p5r dlc outfits), new battle music, "new" protagonists like p3mc and p3p's femc, the p3 and p4 protagonist boss fights from royals dlc and added some of royals improvements like 60fps, 4k resolution and the improved bust-ups.
I've played the vanilla version on ps3 way back when it first came out, and I enjoyed it But with the announcement of a PC release, I am definitely looking at getting Royal. Even at full price. I haven't played the game fully through since that first time, so it'll be fun to see all the changes and get to re-experience stuff with a fresh coat of paint
I've played Strikers first Because I saw it on PS Plus and said "Fine, I'll do it" and after the first Chapter I got hooked. Haven't played Royal or Vanilla yet but I gotta say. Strikers didn't spoil much about the Main Game, and I easily got attached to every character. Glad to see that I'm not the only one who says that Haru is Waifu Material.
you really should bite the bullet and get royal, the transition is strange between the two games but if you like the characters you absolutely need to play it
@@samuelniemeyer589 to be fair the reveals aren’t very unexpected. The only one I didn’t predict was Ryuji because I thought he was a random side character
I was tempted to play new game plus and get all the trophies in the OG but after watching this I’m heading straight to royal! My brother is a fan of the games so we already have both
Oh damn I had a feeling Maruki’s confidant was on a timer, now I know for sure I need to work on it. I’m in the middle of summer break currently however, so it’s on hold.
Fair warning, as I say in the pinned comment, You have to get Maruki to rank 9 manually and 10 happens automatically (In the video I incorrectly said you have to get him to Rank 8 and 9&10 happen automatically)
Royal was really good but it still wasn't perfect. Kasumi was admittedly pretty tacked on and the third arc was a little too short with the big twist they were living in a different reality not really being explored just like shooed away after a handful of (unvoiced) cutscenes. Plus the final boss was interesting but the final form was a glorified cutscene as well. I felt we easily could've had one more palace (Sumire's) before the final one given a lot of the dates in the third arc you don't even get to play. Those gripes aside it was still an excellent game overall with a bunch of added scenes to freshen up the main game, I was surprised how much they added tbh, with a cool new area and Mementos was actually sort of fun to explore. The Will Seeds made one shotting Kamoshida's Palace so much easier and made exploring Palaces a bit more interesting.
within the first 3 and a half min of the video u answered all my questions. thanks for that efficiency. ive been seeing this franchise around a lot and been wondering to try it out. for the longest time i was confused where to begin with so many 'persona 5's but u basically set it straight: persona 5 royal first, then persona 5 striker. and the fact that they're both fully fledged games, starting with turn based rpg and moving to action rpg seems like the perfect crescendo of interactivity that i was hoping to have next to each other. once again, thanks. u are good at ur work. i appreciate u.
Started playing PS5R when it was released on XBOX Game Pass. Amazing to see how much of what feel like standard (but still very awesome and unique) mechanics wouldn't have been in the orginal. Thanks for the video, fam.
As a PROUD fan who's played BOTH the Vanilla Persona 5 AND Persona 5 Royal, I'm just glad there's a video showing ALL of the minute to major changes they've made between each versions of the game!
Thanks for this video! I purchased Vanilla back in 2018 but only got to finish the game this year. I think at the time I got the OG game, Royal wasn't released yet. So, had I known that I would not have beaten the game until this year and that we were going to get an enhanced version, I think I would have waited to get Royal instead of the Vanilla game. But now that I've beaten the base game I don't think I need to get Royal. I'm fine with the game I already had.
i finally got p5r after so long and i haven't vanilla in a couple years so when i finally realized that morgana doesnt ask me to sleep that much i was so happy
The ¥50,000 might seem like an underwhelming bonus, but I like it. It's enough to boost your early game and doesn't unbalance the game as a whole. Plus if you want an early game boon just summon a high level dlc persona you get for free.
Tycoon is so fun, it's like a card game i know called "arschloch" or asshole which we play a lot here in germany but with some different rules. It's basically the same game but tycoon adds the eight stop, bankrupcy, jokers and most importantly the revolution which is such a cool mechanic
@redx Vanilla P5 was already a complete game, though. Atlus simply took an already amazing game and gave us more to experience, which as I've stated previously, seemed to work out pretty well since Royal has received a ton of praise.
@redx if Vanilla P5 was a soul-less, empty, poorly designed husk of a game, then I would absolutely say Royal was a cash grab. But Vanilla already had a great story, great characters, great gameplay, and over 100 hours of content. Royal was just a little something extra. This is partly the reason why games like Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon were such colossal failures, because vanilla Sun and Moon were so barebones compared to what fans expect from the series. They were such big insults to the Pokémon franchise that Ultra Sun and Moon actually did feel like they were reselling us the same game but actually finished.
My biggest issue is the colorful border on screen when running in a dungeon.. And I HATE how their are splashes of color when taking steps in dungeon. Why?!?
The will seeds/crystals actually are based off of the eight deadly sins with the additional one being vanity which literature most often combines with pride thus resulting in the seven deadly sins. Sloth which would be one of the seven deadly sins is not included in the will seeds, but vanity is.
If nothing else, PLEASE use the billiards table to level up your technical rank asap. It’ll eventually make you guarantee a down if you hit a technical, which becomes super important for the vanilla final and especially the royal final palace as technicals are often the only way to down enemies and gain them as your persona.
From someone who played vanilla first, royal added some little things that improve your experience so much, like the will seeds that restore sp, man when I went through shido palace I didn't have sp for akechi (first time doing it and trying in one day), also an encounter in kamoshida's palace was removed, where there were 4 succubus using marin karin and I died a lot of times because they would spam it and take joker or ryuji, morgana not telling you to sleep so often was gamechanging for me because I literally wanted to punch the cat so many times for not letting me go( even when I didn't go to the metaverse), this gave me much more time to improve, I agree that royal makes things easier, but I think it is consequence of how many new tools you have, and they only make the experience more enjoyable.
Wait. Akechi is not as sketchy in Royale? He can actually be an ally if you play your cards right? (Haven't seen or played much of any of the non switch games. I just know that he's bad news from the anime and the fact that Erika (Anne) calls him Sketchy Akechi in her let's play.)
I beat the original game twice when it game out. Currently playing Royal for the first time & MAN there’s a bunch of stuff they changed. Loving it so far.
Note regarding themes: the promotion had ended in September 2021 according to playstation support (some themes may still have codes available so I would not write off giving up).
So i just beat royal and i remember in vanilla the weird thing of morgana having his cat self as his image during dialogue a lot more but i don't think it popped up nearly that much until like the end.
I'm actually glad I played the original first and I would encourage new players to play the original as well. More challenging and better original ending. Royal was fun for a follow up playthrough but I'm glad it wasn't my original experience.
Are you mad? The ending in P5 sucked very hard and Royal absolutely fixes this. In fact Strikers did the end of P5 basically better than P5 did. The original P5 never knew what it wanted to be out and that is its biggest failure. And its "challenge" came from poor gameplay design.
Going through a lot rn, will return to it eventually but I have a few other videos I want to do first. Thus is the curse of starting too many series without finishing them
@@Screenments Thanks for the reply. Oh well, I hope this does come back eventually. Would love to see it. Take care of yourself first though, okay? I acknowledge you’re going through a lot and I sincerely hope you overcome everything that comes your way.
Holy shit. I’m currently playing vanilla version of P5 and I fell in love with this game! Seeing all these features added in the Royal version makes me a little upset because the experience of the game would have been much more enjoyable. This cat cannot shut up about going to bed gah Anyway, great video, keep it up man 👍
Ugh, I just started playing regular P5 when this game out. I thought this just added a new character not all these things. I guess I'll just play through the normal version, buy royal, then play royal many years from now when I forgot what happened in P5 normal so it'll be a bit of a surprise haha
Plot twits: you wont forget... P5 have that kind of story that will stay with you forever. :) Yeah, its that great. EDIT: Another thing, you arent playng the inferior version, youre playng the version that matters, the gameplay changes on royal are great, also the new story arc. But that sotry arc arent on the same level of the original, even though its pretty great, imho.
@@evomichel9900 I have to disagree, the new ending and palace and everything about the third semester is a much more satisfying conclusion for the phantom thieves than how the at the time final boss was dealt with in the original, and a hell of a lot more thought provoking and emotional for sure too, not really sure how anyone would disagree with that if I’m being honest but it is what it is I guess, not to mention the new tracks that we got out of that whole last segment of the game are just god tier…
@@SSlash And I disagree. I find the final ending of the OG to be considerably better with Joker rejecting how he was at the start running away with his new friends, and finally taking off his glasses signifying him coming into himself.
kind of wish akechi's social link worked the same way as in vanilla as when i was looking about whether i had to fill maruki's social link i saw that to get the true ending you have to max maruki out and i think you only have to get kasumi to rank 5 but since beating the game a couple of days ago i recommend getting her to rank 10. but yeah those make sense what doesn't make sense is that your supposed to get akechi to rank 8 which was super annoying because there wasn't really any indication that his social link was even important anything. luckily just doing maruki and kasumi's social link was enough the final cut scene is different it but it's nothing too major to be honest.
PART 2 (Persona 5 Vanilla and Royal Differences - Prologue/Kamoshida Arc):
th-cam.com/video/oZRdoDBJYK8/w-d-xo.html
So, let me correct a few small errors made in this video.
3:55 - Here I state that the models in Persona 5 Royal have been ripped from Dancing. The source is an article from Inverse but I've also seen the Megami Tensei Wiki and others state similar things. However, this claim has since been disputed by some knowledgeable people in the community. Apparently, Royal uses the same models as Vanilla Persona 5, but the textures have been enhanced.
5:55 - I made an error here and claimed you only have to get Maruki to Rank 8 manually, and Rank 9&10 happen automatically. This is incorrect, you have to get Maruki to Rank 9 manually, and Rank 10 will happen automatically.
13:40 - Savage Shadows are not a new addition to Persona 5 Royal and existed in Vanilla Persona 5. They do seem to appear more commonly in Royal however.
I apologize for all of these errors.
And no, this series is not cancelled but has been on the backburner for quite a while, however, with Persona 5 Royal getting a recent port to all platforms I feel now would be the perfect time to continue the series, so I plan to get it started soon. Although, I also have Randomizer to upload as well so give me time.
It's completely fine thank you for making this video.
Any update on Vanilla vs Royal? Did you ever actually do the video on the Kamoshida Arc?
Do you keep progress from persona 5 when you shift to royal?
Is it still coming?
Nope The Dancing Models are used in Royal
Major difference: Gun ammo is replenished after every fight so you can use your gun more often.
I initially started vanilla and decided to play royal and this change made me so happy!
Wow I’m guessing you had to stack on consumables just to replenish guns… must’ve sucked
@@BeWaReJay no you only could reload by leaving the metaverse.
@@Inamichan Rip the early methods of farming money and xp at kamoshidas palace using the gun weakness then
@@BeWaReJay I can’t believe people actually played the game to completion without the update. Playing the update was game changing (pun intended).
Man, for me, just the fact that Morgana asks you to sleep less often is a huge improvement.
Ehhh its still pretty bad. I never liked how you couldn't do anything after getting out the meatverse
@@fruitymcflood8198 I hate that it feels like your character doesn't have his own thoughts and can't do anything without Morgana when Mona disappears for a few days Joker doesn't do anything, in persona 4 when the story wasn't letting you do anything else, yu thought to himself that it was time to sleep making it feel like he was his own person and not just doing what his friends wanted him to
Honestly tho, it was much easier to max social stats in Royal thanks to that
Right? He irritated the hell outta me.
@@fruitymcflood8198 the meatverse
In vanilla if the palace security level got to 100% it would kick you out the palace, but in royal just more enemies spawn
Oh that’s even better that makes it more worth it for grinding
Yeah, you are not overly punished for sucking at stealth.
Another good change I think is worth mentioning is that in P5R, your ammo for your guns reload after every fight. This encourages you to use your guns more and a Huge quality of life upgrade in my books cause in Vanilla P5 you couldn't reload until you left the palace or used a very rare item.
I loved this change
I'm not a fan of this change since I felt like the guns were a resource to conserve that you shouldn't have been wasting, it makes parts of the game in royal easier since you essentially have no consequences to going guns blazing every fight
@@onemirrionyen The only 'consequence' being enemies that repel guns. P5R, I just use the gun we get from Iwai since it has High Shock. Use that for Technical then All Out Attack. Rinse & repeat.
No more ammo refills :D
@@onemirrionyen having ryuji shoot only like 5 times per palace run was such a hassle i basically used only Ann’s for targeting weaknesses due to its high ammo
In the introduction during royal, the character portraits are blacked out, while in vanilla they were just completely empty
I think it was better the way it was in vanilla imo
Wait, I could be wrong but I swear they had portraits in Vanilla, they just had shadows covering their faces or something
@@Aigis31 that was royal
@@brandonv6905 hmm. I'll reboot vanilla and see if I was wrong. I emulated it but I swear I saw silhouettes of some kind
@@Aigis31 yea it was a silhouette
Johneawesome has gameplay of it
For those who don’t have p5r and are hesitant because of the price, it goes on sale very often for about 39.99 or more depending on the sale. Specially neat if you’ve already played the original. If you can wait a little, it’ll definitely be worth the extra cash in my opinion.
Please do play persona 5 strikers after playing royal or vanilla, ITS SO GOOD AND SOME PEOPLE KINDA SLEPT ON IT?
@@fagitocumaeda actually Strikers is the sequel of the vanilla version, but yeah P5R really worth the 60bucks!
I bought Royal Deluxe for 31€ on ps store. Persona 5 vanilla was 50€.
WAIT HOLY SHIT ROYAL COST IS 40.00 IN A SALE??? Here in Brazil because of the dollar price it’s 280.00 or something…
On sale rn actually
This is very interesting for someone like me who played Royal but never played the vanilla version. With the exception of Kasumi I never knew what content was added in Royal and what was in the base game all along.
I actually thougt Kasumi was in the base game when I first played Royal so I was confused when I talked about the intro with someone who only played vanilla
Royal is just the same enough that new players never notice the changes, but people who play the base game notice all of them, and love all of them
@@zacharycannaday6075 What people are you talking about? Royal is a peace of shit because of the changes in the plot.
@@vovazagach1781 No
@@vovazagach1781
Where?
This changes turned a good game into a modern classic, and also, they remade Akechi into an actual character.
Morgana not telling you to sleep is actually way bigger then you make it out to be, cause during that time you could at least do stuff in LeBlanc like read a book, play a video game, watch TV, exercise, make coffee etc. In the original you would lose a bunch of these opportunists because of Morgana telling you to go to sleep.
It take me halfway through the game to realize it (basically 40 hour in it)
It's actually kinda shitty of atlus to not change it in 2017 ver. I bet it's nothing more than changing a couple lines of code to just disable the dialogue and block on activity
@alexjackyperson101 you're like, maybe a fourth? You're not half this game is 150-200 hours long
@@WantedRaiderismholy shit is it????
And there's a LOT of small details in Persona 5 Royal that are not in Persona 5, load screens, textures, etc. There are things you only notice while playing both games one after another, as P5 is a masterpiece, and if you play you may think there's nothing that needs to be changed there BUT after you play P5R you just can't go back to P5. That's how good an upgrade it is.
100% agreed
It's honestly just a better game in every aspect, right after platinuming regular P5 I thought "Atlus, aside from difficulty, how do you top this quality or improve this?" and I ate my words gladly once I got my hands on the game. Now the game may still be easy unless you start from scratch on hard, but still, I didn't die as much as I did on SMTIV.
It's also an even bigger improvement if you played P5 on PS3
Thanks for this. I JUST beat P5 last week for the first time and was debating a second playthrough (new game+) or checking out P5R. I think I will probably check out P5R instead now.
It looks good, but the price is a bit high for me. I think I can just play the original one
i just bought persona 5 and am 7 hours in and now i hear that persona 5 royal is better, should i buy persona 5 royal instead?
@@sans-99998$60 for an old game in this economy is crazy they should drop it to 35-40 max
5:55 False, you need to get him to rank 9 not 8, once you get him to 9 you basically maxed him out. i think you're confusing maruki with akechi cuz you only need to get akechi to rank 8
This is correct, I apologize for the error.
I might be screwed. I only have him at rank 6 and it's November 6.
@@Jimmeeehhh You have 11 days left, thats plenty of time to get him to rank 9.
@@jackjohnson8305 Alright. Made a Councillor Persona, just in case.
Wait I thought it was rank 8 not 9
You need to get maruki confidant to lvl 9, only 10 is automatic.
Actually, Technically 1 & 2 are automatic too.
Welp guess I'll have to do a second play through...¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@greatnovastar I found that out after beating royal
@@Fatalis690 I'm glad I searched up how to get the 3rd semester before I hoy further into the game. I already liked maruki's confidant but I had no idea he would be necessary for it. I'm playing currently and he's locked though. Can't hang out with him at all smh
@@murasakino101 I’m guessing your in summer
You see takemi walking in the backstreets on your way to sakura’s house
You can see multiple future characters Joker meets in the background such as you can see Haru when you are walking to school
@@youssefsaleh7186 That was one thing that was disappointing about the vanilla game. I always love when RPGs add background hints of future characters early on. P5 did it a lot with events, but not so much with the characters until maybe a week or two before you meet them in-game
Its funny how you notice them all as soon as you start your NG+. You even see Akechi and Sae walk by (in shibuya iirc) on the way to school some time before kamoshida palace.
Another one I remember
You see Maruki walking down the stairs after you take down Kamoshida
(Which Maruki actually mentions later on)
There's also sadly a story telling mechanic in the will seed but was scraped, but some people found due to a bit of hacking and was left in the coding.
It is essentially a way for the player to convey each time you get a will seed, you get to see the perspective of the palace holder and their desires getting distorted, and collecting all the will seeds, you get a scene where the moment when their palaces began to manifest and after that the Palace ruler feels like someone was going through their palace, they're slowly aware of your presence.
The ones that are revealed in Kamoshida and Madarame, since those are the ones found in the code. Theirs even that early part in the P5R trailer was scrapped
OHHH Why was that scrapped? It sounds so incredible!
@@abelg9053 Must have taken longer, but that sounds so cool! We get to see Maruki getting distorted desires with time but it would have been cool to see like Kamoshida on a podium getting a golden medal and seeing the power egtting to his head, or Madarame seeing Yosuke's mother seizure and take the "Sayuri". Where do you see this scrapped stuff?
The best thing about the vanilla version is the intro and the ending. I wish there was a option in Royale to pick which intro and ending version plays in a new game.
Damn Persona traits seemed so natural and logic that i forgot it wasnt in the original game
I'm used to playing the game Age of Empires II, which has team bonuses belonging to each civilization. As the name suggests, the bonuses apply to all members of the starting team (but not any players you ally with later). Persona Traits are essentially the same kind of thing, and allow for similar strategic choosing of team members. It's a very good addition.
In the vanilla version, Makoto texts you to go for a movie date during 7/30, if you accept there's a short funny cutscene where she's waiting for you outside the theater. But in Royal, Makoto only sends you a message the 28/7 but you can only see that text if you reject Ryuji's offer to spend the day in Leblanc since he will ask you the day before to hang out during the 28th. If you decide to go with Makoto during the evening, the cutscene where she is waiting for you is completely skipped and you will be teleported directly into the movie theater with her.
I can't find the cutscene of it on YT =((
From what I remember, this is the movie date where she invites you to watch a Yakuza movie right?
Woke mind virus in action
I bought p5r when it was on sale for 55% off. Best purchase I've made in awhile. I already had p5 for free with the ps plus collection on ps5 so I got a taste for the game and decided to upgrade. I recommend everyone else to get royal if they can. Lots of quality of life changes. Especially with the changes to guns.
What's changed with the guns?
@@Aigis31 The ammo isn't limited to one palace infiltration anymore, so every time you start a fight with the full magazine for all characters.
Imma buy it too
I played the game twice and I never knew that you could increase party members’ technical damage.
more notably, when maxing out technical, it acts as an alternate weakness that ALWAYS downs the foe, making the endgame enemies without actual weaknesses easier to hold up/recruit (assuming royal didnt downgrade the downed percent of technical just to restore it through the new upgrade, as ive only played royal)
So you played the game twice yet never bothered doing billiards? :P
@@loganbigmo I honestly forgot the darts and billards increase baton pass and technical damage, until I just saw this video now 💀I never did the rest of the party members to increase it, which could explain why my baton passes and tech damage did not as much as I wanted it to 😭
Any and all money is worth it for this game, even if you’ve played the content in the vanilla version and just want the third semester’s story content. It’s just that good.
Isn’t 3rd semester in of itself almost 20 hours at LEAST of extra playtime? There’s games of $60 that have less playtime than that (good games I might add). Worth it, absolutely.
I think that everyone should play Royal, because it goes on sale a LOT, plus with how long the game is, it’d make more sense to simply save up and play Royal. Also, even if you for SOME reason hate Royal stuff, for the most part you can just ignore the Royal stuff like Maruki and Kasumi.
That’s actually true yeah, if you just want your normal usual P5 experience but updated, then go right ahead! No one is forcing anyone to do any of it after all lol
@@SSlash tho you still should tbh 👀
@@pentagonyx and I definitely agree they should but for whatever reason some people just don’t like the new stuff 😔✊
Yea I got it a few days ago since the deluxe edition was on sale for 20 bucks
I really don’t like what they did with Akechi. His arc was great as it was imo, it feels to fanservice-y in p5r
Correction on Maruki’s, manually go to Rank 9, automatically go to Rank 10.
I only played royal but I appreciate the vid because it clued me in to what was improved. Thanks!
Improved was only gameplay, story was completely ruined.
I like that merciless mode actually gives you additional money & experience(1.2 as a number figure)
Got the info i needed by 3:00, Thank you. with no spoilers ill watch the rest, well done.
The graphics have been touched up pretty nicely it’s clearly less grainy and jagged
Thanks for the video. Just looking into Persona 5 for the first time, and you clarified my confusion in the first few minutes!
i VERY MUCH appreciate the first 3 minutes of differentiating between the titles. I was avoiding persona 5 strikers because I had zero clue about it and thought it was rehashing the game I already played. Now that I know it happens after the events of 5, I may get it and actually play it.
The new characters they added in Strikers are actually REALLY good.
I love the voice acting in this game. Confidently can say it’s the best voice acting in any video game that I’ve played!
God Of War: Ragnarok: Is this a joke to you?
Persona 5 and NEO The World Ends With You has some of the best voice acting I've heard in video games. The VAs are very expressive and give their all into their roles.
Agreed, The voice acting was amazing, But Disco Elysium: Final Cut is honestly the best voice acting in any game I've played by ALOT. Masterpiece, Just like Persona 5.
Thank you you literally answered my question within the first 4 min now I’ll play and figure out the rest lol
Another difference between vanilla and Royal is the VA for Tae Takemi is not the same. Not sure why it was changed but I really liked the Voice for the vanilla version. Royals VA wasn’t bad but after 6 playthroughs on the vanilla it definitely felt weird.
she sounds like an milf in the old one and sounds like a big titty goth gf in the new one. new one by far is better
Thank you for this series! I beat Vanilla a few months ago and own Royal but haven't had the chance to pick it up yet, but hearing all these changes makes me giddy to start!!
One way to look at P5 and P5R to understand it more is to see it as similar Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts Final Mix
I LOVE SCREENMENTS! WOOOOO SCREENMENTS!
IF YOU LOVE SCREENMENTS SO MUCH THEN WHY DON’T YOU JUST MARRY IT!!! 😤
@@pwndkake3980 i've been happily married to him since 2017
@@Socryt congrats 🎈🎉🍾 i hope you have peaceful memories together forever
I recently got a used PS4 and I just started Persona 5 Royal. I have already completed 3 FES, 4 Golden, and TMS#FE En. Thanks for the helpful video!
If you're going to play Strikers after Royal and not play the Vanilla game, keep in mind that Strikers was in development before Royal, so it follows the plotline of the vanilla game. I.E. characters who appear specifically in Royal will not appear in Strikers.
It’s also good to keep in mind that Royal started development rather soon after Strikers, so they decided to cross reference the storylines to make sure that Royal would still make sense if you followed up with Strikers. Some confusing moments slipped, that’s true, but there’s nothing even remotely major that contradicts Royal in Strikers, you’re literally just missing the main characters of 3rd semester. I think they knew that Strikers was gonna come out later than Royal, despite starting development earlier.
@@hyperstargaming6150then they release persona 5 q2 and release those said characters as dlc 😂😂😂.
I played 10 hours of P5 and saw Royal o. Sale and instantly bought it.. The refill of the gun alone sold me at first.. made the game so much easier
I really like the idea of this video series and I’m really looking forward to it!!
Do you plan on continuing your randomizer series?
Yessir, I still must beat the Persona 5 Randomizer. It's just hard to grind with so many resets, so other series like these are nice to make.
@@Screenments Yay!!! Thanks for responding. Can’t wait for both series, I’m stoked!
@@Screenments sick, keep up the great content m8
I would like to add the fact that the ps3 version has a surprisingly large amount if mods for it, which in my eyes make it the best version of vanilla p5 (at least when emulated using rpcs3).
They've modded in new outfits (including the p5r dlc outfits), new battle music, "new" protagonists like p3mc and p3p's femc, the p3 and p4 protagonist boss fights from royals dlc and added some of royals improvements like 60fps, 4k resolution and the improved bust-ups.
I keep forgetting there’s a PS3 Persona 5 lol
60fps isn't a royal improvement because they didn't bother making 60fps available in Royal.
I've played the vanilla version on ps3 way back when it first came out, and I enjoyed it
But with the announcement of a PC release, I am definitely looking at getting Royal. Even at full price. I haven't played the game fully through since that first time, so it'll be fun to see all the changes and get to re-experience stuff with a fresh coat of paint
Thank you, Persona 5 royal was just announced for switch and I didn’t know the difference between Royal and Vanilla
Thank you soooo much i was looking for this kind of video. 😊
Amzing one. This is probably my 5th video trying to see what the heck is P5 versions, got my answer in 1st 5 minutes
Stuck at work waiting to go home so I can keep my eyes glued to this beautiful game
Great video sir!
Watching this in November of 2022 & it feels like a fever dream that it’s on all platforms
I've played Strikers first Because I saw it on PS Plus and said "Fine, I'll do it" and after the first Chapter I got hooked. Haven't played Royal or Vanilla yet but I gotta say. Strikers didn't spoil much about the Main Game, and I easily got attached to every character. Glad to see that I'm not the only one who says that Haru is Waifu Material.
Strikers spoils all the phantom thief reveals
@@samuelniemeyer589 to be fair, so does the animated intro (and the main menu) to both P5 and P5R (unless you were being sarcastic)
you really should bite the bullet and get royal, the transition is strange between the two games but if you like the characters you absolutely need to play it
@@samuelniemeyer589 to be fair the reveals aren’t very unexpected. The only one I didn’t predict was Ryuji because I thought he was a random side character
I was tempted to play new game plus and get all the trophies in the OG but after watching this I’m heading straight to royal! My brother is a fan of the games so we already have both
Oh damn I had a feeling Maruki’s confidant was on a timer, now I know for sure I need to work on it. I’m in the middle of summer break currently however, so it’s on hold.
Fair warning, as I say in the pinned comment, You have to get Maruki to rank 9 manually and 10 happens automatically (In the video I incorrectly said you have to get him to Rank 8 and 9&10 happen automatically)
Really hope this series goes on. As someone who just recently finished persona 5 vanilla after owning it for 7 years, I truly appreciate this video 🙏
Ah, the intro is so nice, we shall await patiently for the next part
I've been playing Persona 5 Royal years after the fact and I had no idea they made so many small changes that add to the experience
So glad I checked this video, I didn't know I had to raise up Maruki's confidant to access the new palace
Yeah, it's the only missable palace in the game
Thanks for the straight forward and clear video!
Tfw when they didn't fixed the space maze pain
Was there a problem with it? I played it on vanilla just a few months ago and thought it was fine albeit annoying
@@umbrella3096 exactly, there was too little change to it compared how much was changed for the better in other areas lol
Royal was really good but it still wasn't perfect. Kasumi was admittedly pretty tacked on and the third arc was a little too short with the big twist they were living in a different reality not really being explored just like shooed away after a handful of (unvoiced) cutscenes. Plus the final boss was interesting but the final form was a glorified cutscene as well. I felt we easily could've had one more palace (Sumire's) before the final one given a lot of the dates in the third arc you don't even get to play.
Those gripes aside it was still an excellent game overall with a bunch of added scenes to freshen up the main game, I was surprised how much they added tbh, with a cool new area and Mementos was actually sort of fun to explore. The Will Seeds made one shotting Kamoshida's Palace so much easier and made exploring Palaces a bit more interesting.
Thanks. I really thought I was hallucinating when Morgana stopped telling me to sleep.
within the first 3 and a half min of the video u answered all my questions. thanks for that efficiency. ive been seeing this franchise around a lot and been wondering to try it out. for the longest time i was confused where to begin with so many 'persona 5's but u basically set it straight: persona 5 royal first, then persona 5 striker. and the fact that they're both fully fledged games, starting with turn based rpg and moving to action rpg seems like the perfect crescendo of interactivity that i was hoping to have next to each other. once again, thanks. u are good at ur work. i appreciate u.
Just a quick note at 5:14. Tons of people make this mistake, but we're not meant to pronounce Jose the Spanish way.
Started playing PS5R when it was released on XBOX Game Pass. Amazing to see how much of what feel like standard (but still very awesome and unique) mechanics wouldn't have been in the orginal.
Thanks for the video, fam.
As a PROUD fan who's played BOTH the Vanilla Persona 5 AND Persona 5 Royal, I'm just glad there's a video showing ALL of the minute to major changes they've made between each versions of the game!
Finaly some plain clear explination, Thanks good sir.
Thanks for this video! I purchased Vanilla back in 2018 but only got to finish the game this year. I think at the time I got the OG game, Royal wasn't released yet. So, had I known that I would not have beaten the game until this year and that we were going to get an enhanced version, I think I would have waited to get Royal instead of the Vanilla game. But now that I've beaten the base game I don't think I need to get Royal. I'm fine with the game I already had.
Fantastic video, very interesting, well voiced and edited, you got me hyped to watch the whole series of---- oh. There never were any more videos. 😢
They will come one day. I have a few other things I want to finish first. Admittedly shouldn't have started this as early as I did
We need Persona 6 with Nanako as MC
It might be they are working on one that's a female main character.
I want persona game with nanako and adachi as party members
After replaying vanilla 5 times and finally getting Royal I can say without a doubt that they improved everything in such a perfect way
very good video lad
You just got yourself a #NewSubscriber man.💙💚❤️🖤😎
i finally got p5r after so long and i haven't vanilla in a couple years so when i finally realized that morgana doesnt ask me to sleep that much i was so happy
I finally got this game recently and played so much it's so good!
As someone with hundreds of hiurs into both games, this was still fun to watch
Holy freck that's a lot of changes
The ¥50,000 might seem like an underwhelming bonus, but I like it. It's enough to boost your early game and doesn't unbalance the game as a whole. Plus if you want an early game boon just summon a high level dlc persona you get for free.
Tycoon is so fun, it's like a card game i know called "arschloch" or asshole which we play a lot here in germany but with some different rules. It's basically the same game but tycoon adds the eight stop, bankrupcy, jokers and most importantly the revolution which is such a cool mechanic
Thanks for this video! Might buy it after finished the vanilla version soon…
show this to rockstar so they know what a remaster looks like
@redx which worked out pretty damn well. Vanilla Persona 5 was so damn good that I totally didn't mind paying full price for Royal.
@redx Vanilla P5 was already a complete game, though. Atlus simply took an already amazing game and gave us more to experience, which as I've stated previously, seemed to work out pretty well since Royal has received a ton of praise.
@redx if Vanilla P5 was a soul-less, empty, poorly designed husk of a game, then I would absolutely say Royal was a cash grab. But Vanilla already had a great story, great characters, great gameplay, and over 100 hours of content. Royal was just a little something extra. This is partly the reason why games like Pokémon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon were such colossal failures, because vanilla Sun and Moon were so barebones compared to what fans expect from the series. They were such big insults to the Pokémon franchise that Ultra Sun and Moon actually did feel like they were reselling us the same game but actually finished.
@redx Okay I admit I did word that rather poorly, but ignoring that, my other points still stand.
Very clear explanation Sir.
My biggest issue is the colorful border on screen when running in a dungeon.. And I HATE how their are splashes of color when taking steps in dungeon. Why?!?
I know about p5t and p5s but dancing in the starlight has eluded me so far, looks fun as hell!
The will seeds/crystals actually are based off of the eight deadly sins with the additional one being vanity which literature most often combines with pride thus resulting in the seven deadly sins.
Sloth which would be one of the seven deadly sins is not included in the will seeds, but vanity is.
I am really loving this series so far, hopefully episode 2 comes out soon.
I'm gonna get p5s soon, after I finish the royale story, I am so exited, I'm such a sucker for warriors games!
If nothing else, PLEASE use the billiards table to level up your technical rank asap. It’ll eventually make you guarantee a down if you hit a technical, which becomes super important for the vanilla final and especially the royal final palace as technicals are often the only way to down enemies and gain them as your persona.
From someone who played vanilla first, royal added some little things that improve your experience so much, like the will seeds that restore sp, man when I went through shido palace I didn't have sp for akechi (first time doing it and trying in one day), also an encounter in kamoshida's palace was removed, where there were 4 succubus using marin karin and I died a lot of times because they would spam it and take joker or ryuji, morgana not telling you to sleep so often was gamechanging for me because I literally wanted to punch the cat so many times for not letting me go( even when I didn't go to the metaverse), this gave me much more time to improve, I agree that royal makes things easier, but I think it is consequence of how many new tools you have, and they only make the experience more enjoyable.
Every time I try to leave the attic, and Morgana say: Wait, aren't you tired? And I am like FREAKING NO. I wanna at least make some coffee, but no...
Wait. Akechi is not as sketchy in Royale? He can actually be an ally if you play your cards right? (Haven't seen or played much of any of the non switch games. I just know that he's bad news from the anime and the fact that Erika (Anne) calls him Sketchy Akechi in her let's play.)
In The casino of envy and the Royal palace Akechi is a playable character
did you record this while wearing a retainer?
I just have a lisp bruh
I beat the original game twice when it game out. Currently playing Royal for the first time & MAN there’s a bunch of stuff they changed. Loving it so far.
Note regarding themes: the promotion had ended in September 2021 according to playstation support (some themes may still have codes available so I would not write off giving up).
So i just beat royal and i remember in vanilla the weird thing of morgana having his cat self as his image during dialogue a lot more but i don't think it popped up nearly that much until like the end.
Really grateful for Royal coming out during le pandemic.
I'm actually glad I played the original first and I would encourage new players to play the original as well. More challenging and better original ending. Royal was fun for a follow up playthrough but I'm glad it wasn't my original experience.
Are you mad? The ending in P5 sucked very hard and Royal absolutely fixes this. In fact Strikers did the end of P5 basically better than P5 did.
The original P5 never knew what it wanted to be out and that is its biggest failure. And its "challenge" came from poor gameplay design.
@@txgoldrushNO! It's you who is mad, persona 5 royal is a peace if shit nothing more, also it's not canon.
@@vovazagach1781 it was far better received. And it is canon. The DLC for Tactics is proof.
@@txgoldrush Strikers is proof enough that it is not.
@@vovazagach1781 except that Maruki's palace is a bit referenced in the Japanese version.
7:18 I hear tartarus theme in the background
03:15 but you had to play this one after Persona 5 Tactics because it is set between Persona 5 Royal and Strikers
Was this series dropped? Was really looking forward to more videos.
Going through a lot rn, will return to it eventually but I have a few other videos I want to do first. Thus is the curse of starting too many series without finishing them
@@Screenments Thanks for the reply. Oh well, I hope this does come back eventually. Would love to see it.
Take care of yourself first though, okay? I acknowledge you’re going through a lot and I sincerely hope you overcome everything that comes your way.
Both are good imo, they have different feel.
Man thank you so much, im about to enter the rabbit hole and dont know what to buy
Holy shit. I’m currently playing vanilla version of P5 and I fell in love with this game! Seeing all these features added in the Royal version makes me a little upset because the experience of the game would have been much more enjoyable. This cat cannot shut up about going to bed gah
Anyway, great video, keep it up man 👍
It’s on sale for $20 right now on the PSN store
Ugh, I just started playing regular P5 when this game out. I thought this just added a new character not all these things. I guess I'll just play through the normal version, buy royal, then play royal many years from now when I forgot what happened in P5 normal so it'll be a bit of a surprise haha
Plot twits: you wont forget... P5 have that kind of story that will stay with you forever. :) Yeah, its that great. EDIT: Another thing, you arent playng the inferior version, youre playng the version that matters, the gameplay changes on royal are great, also the new story arc. But that sotry arc arent on the same level of the original, even though its pretty great, imho.
@@evomichel9900 I have to disagree, the new ending and palace and everything about the third semester is a much more satisfying conclusion for the phantom thieves than how the at the time final boss was dealt with in the original, and a hell of a lot more thought provoking and emotional for sure too, not really sure how anyone would disagree with that if I’m being honest but it is what it is I guess, not to mention the new tracks that we got out of that whole last segment of the game are just god tier…
@@SSlash And I disagree. I find the final ending of the OG to be considerably better with Joker rejecting how he was at the start running away with his new friends, and finally taking off his glasses signifying him coming into himself.
kind of wish akechi's social link worked the same way as in vanilla as when i was looking about whether i had to fill maruki's social link i saw that to get the true ending you have to max maruki out and i think you only have to get kasumi to rank 5 but since beating the game a couple of days ago i recommend getting her to rank 10. but yeah those make sense what doesn't make sense is that your supposed to get akechi to rank 8 which was super annoying because there wasn't really any indication that his social link was even important anything. luckily just doing maruki and kasumi's social link was enough the final cut scene is different it but it's nothing too major to be honest.