Full VB Air fitted a few years ago on a 2018 Carthago i150. Transforms the handling of the motorhome particularly negotiating roundabouts, in cross winds, and overtaking lorries on the motorway. Rutted roads are still rough so don't expect miracles. Riding on air is a misleading statement and I prefer to say it is firm and planted. I love the height adjustments available for ferry loading and when crossing uneven field sites. I had previously installed the EP levelers so have no experience with the VB leveling module.
there are upgrades and, then, there's this... it looks a proper game changer! it was great to see you last Friday on the Essex stretch of the M25, pouring rain. I beeped and showed a thumbs up, good you did it back.
This is a superb upgrade for a large coach built or A Class motorhome. Would definitely consider it on a longer vehicle for comfort and practicality. Thanks for an excellent video 😃🚐💙 Trev
Great video Steve. I have had my two Swift Motorhomes both fitted with VB full air - fantastic for all the reasons you mention in your video. And you will use all the features. I now have a Autosleeper with Mercedes cab. I have had the VB full air fitted on rear only, VB don’t do the front suspension on Mercs. I have also had the E &P levelling legs fitted and as you say ithe VB air talks to the E & P jacks. It costs a fortune but it’s well worth it.
Had VB full air fitted on our A-class recently and just back from France and Belgium where we tested it on some pretty shocking roads. It works exactly as described, the levelling is a joy and the changes to the ride comfort are game changing. We’ve also increased payload by uprating since.
Make sure you are able to trouble shoot to issue when it dose not work, and maybe how to manual get the jacks to rerack if sometime goes wrong. Thanks Don
Question steve ? Just having up plated our 649 to 5250 now having full air and self levelling this week and once done , wondered how to uplift to 5500 as you did , can you advise ? Thanks The Milton-Froys
Just contact your updating people again and they should be able to help you, or contact WDT Services if you had VB Air. We just had to change a linkage in the handbrake assembly.
I very much like the videos on your main channel such the travels that you all do and I also like your home videos on your Steve and Lynds channel when are the travel videos starting again on your main channel and when the home videos starting on the Steve and Lynds channel in fact I have subscribed to all the of the channels keep it up
We have full VB air suspension on Genny. The plus points are ... the comfortable ride, the ability to tilt the bus to empty the grey water tank. The ability to lower the back to load the bikes into the garage. And did I mention how comfy the ride is?.?.? The only down side is the added weight. But the plus points far out weigh this. (pun intended ) . Highly recommend VB system. It works seamlessly with the E&P self levelling. Brilliant bit of kit.
My van is booked in with SAP in Doncaster to have a full air system installed. I am having the 30mm off-road kit fitted, which gives the van an extra 30mm of ride height before you put it in offroad mode! I have also gone for self-levelling and the emergency valve system. For those that don't know, I have a VW T6 T32 4Motion High roof.
What amazes me is the lack of front air suspension on the market for motorhomes, I have changed the front suspension stops for a system similar to progressive stops, from SOS suspension in France (not air, just longer stops which are flexible). it has lifted the front a little and less roll, But I would love to have brought something similar with are air control, I do have rear air suspension and I'm very happy with it. before the rear air suspension I bottomed out the van about 10 times in a couple of years after that it has never happened again. I paid £600 for the rear and £220 for the front both fitted myself. Air for the rear is added manually via a Tyre valves connection in the passenger foot well.
Looking forward to hearing on-the-road experiences with the new system. With your long overhang van, one additional anti-grounding counter meassure might be to install a small industrial cart wheel under the tow bar. Seen one in a large Carthago van and it was quite smart in its simplicity.
@@RoamingRadfords take a look under a big Carthago next time, you should see a castor wheel on each chassis beam, but be aware, it doesn't solve everything, mine are well used! Even with VB Air Suspension! 🤷♀
Very informative video Steve - looks a great piece of kit you have ! We have air suspension i the back of ours and the ride is definitely smoother so must make a major difference on your van 👍 xx
Hi Steve, great video on the VB air suspension. I'm looking to have it fitted to my Auto Trail camper van and as I live in your area I was hoping you could let me know where you had yours fitted. Always good to have a recommendation. Thanks and enjoy your trips 👍
Thanks, we had ours fitted at their headquarters in Blackburn, but if you head over to their website you can find a suitable official installer on there www.vbairsuspension.com/en/partners
Top video! Do you have the ep level system working with vb air. Or just the vb air to level. Is it sturdy enough? Or does it wiggle a lot? Cost with or without vb ep?
Great informative video but Wow! 12k to fix a problem on a brand new van. The way that van sat on the road before the mod was scandalous. The amount of times it ground out and suffered damage proved that it wasn't fit for purpose. I know it was a new model but Swift have some work to do there.
Hi we have same motorhome as you and suffer same problem with grounding out. Live local to yourselves and would like to know where you got the vb air suspension fitted. Thanks
Find a local registered partner near you www.vbairsuspension.com/en/partners or we can recommend you give the guys at Out & About Motorhome & Caravan services a shout maps.app.goo.gl/YQWu6a8BihsLciCZA?g_st=ic
You should also look at a front electric pulley. Like the land rovers. Pull yourself out any grass site using a land anchore. Great for beaches too, because you will adventure. Only £750 😎🙏
Great system. Is the van more ‘bouncy’ when parked & levelled? I’ve got simple VB Rear air and there’s a lot more bounce when stopped. Fortunately have E&P levelling rams. Would like full air on my next van and was wondering what the camper experience is like for you guys now.
I did mention this at 3:49 in the video. We had the VB Full Air 4 Corner Fully Automatic Air Suspension with self levelling fitted. The cost of this is £12k but I’m not sure how much it is without the self levelling.
We love our air suspension, it just makes for a smoother ride. We only have it fitted to the rear but no bangs or clattering and much more stable on the road. Wont be long before you get the jacks lol. great Vlog. What was the cost for there system?
Just realised that you seem to get caught out with your front wheel drive in certain locations. Like your front wheels struggle for grip at certain locations, I was wondering can you fit a caravan mover to the rear tyres just help with traction and to get you out of tight spots? Like stuck in sand, parking in pitches driving in a steep entrance to that campsite in Morocco for example?
Hiya. In your folder do you have photo copies of your passports, driving licenses and insurances in the safe. Safe travels and Best Wishes. Regards John
I can’t tell you the combined weight but I know I mentioned the battery weight in that video and of course I mentioned the weight gain in this video, not sure I did in the solar video. We will be up rating the van to 5500kg and will do something on that when we do
Probably because it's expensive, I have seen quotes for anything up to £7600. even the lower end is £2000. I'm guess as thier van is a twin axle it's going to be higher than the £7600. Could be wrong.
As ambassadors for Swift, I assume you've been asking them serious questions like "how come I've had to spend £12k to make your top of the range motorhome fit for purpose?". It really isn't good enough for motorhomes to be damaged by grounding out so easily - your usage wasn't exactly extreme!
I guess it’s a business decision as to the “cut off price” that customers are willing to pay? It’s an expensive option, but maybe in the future one that more people will be willing to consider?
I ground out our 2019 Bessacarr 599, the fresh water drain is mid point between the axles so any slight rise in the ground as the drain valve is the lowest point it’s been knocked off twice and very nearly a third time. My solution was to get some correct pipe and a couple of elbows and move it so it’s now beside the waste water tank drain valve. As both valves are nearer the rear wheel they are not affected by any slight undulations in the ground. I did have to extend the wiring for the fresh water electric drain valve, the waste tank drain valve stayed in its original position so that wiring was ok.
This was an interesting video, and very informative! You both do an amazing job of presentation and explanation on your videos. The explanatory animations are so well done and clearly demonstrate what is taking place, adding an excellent level of clarity to your already outstanding presentation!
@@RoamingRadfords Done 👍 Things in life move on and I just prefer your old format over the COVID period.....each to their own You are successful business people after all
We can’t travel all the time (pesky kids), but we do enjoy sharing our Motorhome experiences, this is just another element of our Motorhome experience that we are sharing. Some will like it, some will find it helpful. Others are the choir that we are preaching at, some will decide it’s not going interest them so won’t click on it. And some people will take the time and effort to tell us that they don’t like it for what ever reason. We will never be able to please everyone, and we shouldn’t even try as it will be a boring video. We can’t always travel, that sucks as it’s our favourite thing to do too. But we wish everyone one, and their opinions well. It’s ok if it’s not your thing, either skip the video or unsubscribe. Life is too short to be watching videos that you don’t like. L 🧘🏼♀️ xx
I use to love your old videos about motorhome travel , when TH-camrs start working with companies it feels to me like they’re selling there soul , it’s only my opinion but I did prefer your older stuff without product placement.
Shame you didn’t show a real example of how it works instead of that animated example also you said theses are the guys that know well how do you know ? Should really keep that opinion you tested it and have used it for some time
They are the industry leaders that everyone recommended in the comments that’s why they are the guys to go to and that’s why we went to them. They are also approved by the manufacturers, but I explained all this in the video.
@@RoamingRadfords thanks for you reply. Can i ask how long have you had this system installed for ? I’m looking into this kind of system so look to guys like you for accurate advice and real life tested experience
All this information was in the video Damien. We had it fitted in November, was away for December, didn’t use the van in January as it was too cold and went away in it in February where we used it for the first time. We are also away in the van right now and are continuing to put it through its paces, which we will be reporting on in our videos so keep an alert on them as they come out
@@RoamingRadfords so not that long then . I look forward as I’m sure a lot of your subscribers will be to watching your full review on this costly upgrade and how it has been performing in the real world. I just want to add iv been following your for quiet some time and enjoy watching all of you content. This is if interest so want to make sure my hard earned shillings get spent wisely. Keep up the good work on your channel and thank again for taking the time out to reply .
Its the obvious solution and great if you can afford it but you dont mention price. And you don't mention if you got this installed free in return for promoting it . Would be good to let your audience know if your salespeople for the manufactures or genuine you tubers. Its very hard to tell with the UK channels now as they always seem to be tied in with some product or other and keep flogging them like a dead horse (even though they have minuscule channels numbers )
The price will vary depending on vehicle, for everything we had fitted to our chassis is £12k. We were pleased they allowed us to film the experience and share it with our channel as most won’t let you film this kind of thing. They were also happy for us to use their animations to show how it works.
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Full VB Air fitted a few years ago on a 2018 Carthago i150. Transforms the handling of the motorhome particularly negotiating roundabouts, in cross winds, and overtaking lorries on the motorway. Rutted roads are still rough so don't expect miracles. Riding on air is a misleading statement and I prefer to say it is firm and planted. I love the height adjustments available for ferry loading and when crossing uneven field sites. I had previously installed the EP levelers so have no experience with the VB leveling module.
I’m so pleased to read your review too, so many people have give us great feedback!
there are upgrades and, then, there's this... it looks a proper game changer! it was great to see you last Friday on the Essex stretch of the M25, pouring rain. I beeped and showed a thumbs up, good you did it back.
Ohh you made us smile!!
I spoke with Oliver in October about E&P, having mine fitted over the next few days.
Brilliant!
This is a superb upgrade for a large coach built or A Class motorhome. Would definitely consider it on a longer vehicle for comfort and practicality. Thanks for an excellent video 😃🚐💙 Trev
Thanks Trev! Love to you both x
We had exactly the same problems and benefits with the 774, game changer
Absolutely! Total game changer!
Great video Steve. I have had my two Swift Motorhomes both fitted with VB full air - fantastic for all the reasons you mention in your video. And you will use all the features. I now have a Autosleeper with Mercedes cab. I have had the VB full air fitted on rear only, VB don’t do the front suspension on Mercs. I have also had the E &P levelling legs fitted and as you say ithe VB air talks to the E & P jacks. It costs a fortune but it’s well worth it.
Thanks for sharing
Great video. Excellent info on how the airbags and jacking systems work 👍 👌 👏 😀
So pleased you found it helpful!
Looks a cracking solution - hopefully it saves any grounding out for you.
All the best, David 👍
Fingers crossed! It’s been great so far this trip!
Had VB full air fitted on our A-class recently and just back from France and Belgium where we tested it on some pretty shocking roads. It works exactly as described, the levelling is a joy and the changes to the ride comfort are game changing. We’ve also increased payload by uprating since.
Brilliant!
Make sure you are able to trouble shoot to issue when it dose not work, and maybe how to manual get the jacks to rerack if sometime goes wrong. Thanks Don
Question steve ? Just having up plated our 649 to 5250 now having full air and self levelling this week and once done , wondered how to uplift to 5500 as you did , can you advise ? Thanks The Milton-Froys
Just contact your updating people again and they should be able to help you, or contact WDT Services if you had VB Air. We just had to change a linkage in the handbrake assembly.
I like this video and will watch it several more times! THANK YOU for all the information! ☺
Glad it was helpful!
@@RoamingRadfords I STILL need to watch yours & others, several times! 😏
I very much like the videos on your main channel such the travels that you all do and I also like your home videos on your Steve and Lynds channel when are the travel videos starting again on your main channel and when the home videos starting on the Steve and Lynds channel in fact I have subscribed to all the of the channels keep it up
We have full VB air suspension on Genny. The plus points are ... the comfortable ride, the ability to tilt the bus to empty the grey water tank. The ability to lower the back to load the bikes into the garage. And did I mention how comfy the ride is?.?.? The only down side is the added weight. But the plus points far out weigh this. (pun intended ) . Highly recommend VB system. It works seamlessly with the E&P self levelling. Brilliant bit of kit.
So many people agree with you!!
My van is booked in with SAP in Doncaster to have a full air system installed. I am having the 30mm off-road kit fitted, which gives the van an extra 30mm of ride height before you put it in offroad mode! I have also gone for self-levelling and the emergency valve system. For those that don't know, I have a VW T6 T32 4Motion High roof.
Oooooh you’re going to love it!
Can I ask how it went in Doncaster and how much as I have tge same type of van.
@@ic2742 Very well, this is the second van I have had VBAir installed on by SAP of Doncaster. I really like the kit.
What amazes me is the lack of front air suspension on the market for motorhomes, I have changed the front suspension stops for a system similar to progressive stops, from SOS suspension in France (not air, just longer stops which are flexible). it has lifted the front a little and less roll, But I would love to have brought something similar with are air control, I do have rear air suspension and I'm very happy with it. before the rear air suspension I bottomed out the van about 10 times in a couple of years after that it has never happened again. I paid £600 for the rear and £220 for the front both fitted myself. Air for the rear is added manually via a Tyre valves connection in the passenger foot well.
Sounds like you found your perfect solution.
Looking forward to hearing on-the-road experiences with the new system.
With your long overhang van, one additional anti-grounding counter meassure might be to install a small industrial cart wheel under the tow bar. Seen one in a large Carthago van and it was quite smart in its simplicity.
Great tip.
@@RoamingRadfords take a look under a big Carthago next time, you should see a castor wheel on each chassis beam, but be aware, it doesn't solve everything, mine are well used! Even with VB Air Suspension! 🤷♀
Very informative video Steve - looks a great piece of kit you have ! We have air suspension i the back of ours and the ride is definitely smoother so must make a major difference on your van 👍 xx
Sounds great!
Good video thanks lee
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Steve, great video on the VB air suspension. I'm looking to have it fitted to my Auto Trail camper van and as I live in your area I was hoping you could let me know where you had yours fitted. Always good to have a recommendation. Thanks and enjoy your trips 👍
Thanks, we had ours fitted at their headquarters in Blackburn, but if you head over to their website you can find a suitable official installer on there www.vbairsuspension.com/en/partners
That’s an awesome bit of kit 😊👍
Thanks Will xx
Top video! Do you have the ep level system working with vb air. Or just the vb air to level. Is it sturdy enough? Or does it wiggle a lot? Cost with or without vb ep?
We just have the VB Air right now but are considering the EP system too, watch this space!
Great informative video but Wow! 12k to fix a problem on a brand new van. The way that van sat on the road before the mod was scandalous. The amount of times it ground out and suffered damage proved that it wasn't fit for purpose. I know it was a new model but Swift have some work to do there.
Hi we have same motorhome as you and suffer same problem with grounding out. Live local to yourselves and would like to know where you got the vb air suspension fitted. Thanks
Find a local registered partner near you www.vbairsuspension.com/en/partners or we can recommend you give the guys at Out & About Motorhome & Caravan services a shout maps.app.goo.gl/YQWu6a8BihsLciCZA?g_st=ic
Bet you notice a huge difference whilst driving lot less bumps and rattles ,worth every penny
Absolutely!
You should also look at a front electric pulley. Like the land rovers. Pull yourself out any grass site using a land anchore. Great for beaches too, because you will adventure. Only £750 😎🙏
No more beaches 🤦🏼♀️🤣
Great system. Is the van more ‘bouncy’ when parked & levelled?
I’ve got simple VB Rear air and there’s a lot more bounce when stopped. Fortunately have E&P levelling rams. Would like full air on my next van and was wondering what the camper experience is like for you guys now.
FIAT.. nuff said
Did you have to have the wheel alignment checked after the installation?
Nope
Now that's clever. No use for my tiny vwcamper but interesting for future reference.
Isn’t it 😊
Very interesting and informative video, I think you are right, it’s a game changer for you guys.
Absolutely!
Another belter 👍
Hi Steve, which VB Air system did you get fitted and how much was just the air system without the self levelling? X
I did mention this at 3:49 in the video. We had the VB Full Air 4 Corner Fully Automatic Air Suspension with self levelling fitted. The cost of this is £12k but I’m not sure how much it is without the self levelling.
@@RoamingRadfords have you noticed your fuel consumption being less since having this fitted? X
Amazing upgrade 👍
We love it!
I cannot believe this system is not fitted as standard!
We really need to give VB a call when we get back. It does look like the perfect solution for lifting up a tag axle bottom end! 😅
We love our air suspension, it just makes for a smoother ride. We only have it fitted to the rear but no bangs or clattering and much more stable on the road. Wont be long before you get the jacks lol. great Vlog. What was the cost for there system?
I have the 774 Kon Tiki - I knocked my water pipe off recently.
Just realised that you seem to get caught out with your front wheel drive in certain locations. Like your front wheels struggle for grip at certain locations, I was wondering can you fit a caravan mover to the rear tyres just help with traction and to get you out of tight spots? Like stuck in sand, parking in pitches driving in a steep entrance to that campsite in Morocco for example?
Hi Steve, do Swift not offer the air suspension & levellers as a factory upgrade?
Not yet…. Hopefully in the future they will.
Hiya. In your folder do you have photo copies of your passports, driving licenses and insurances in the safe. Safe travels and Best Wishes. Regards John
I have an email with all of our details I , including NHS and NI numbers. I may just do the photo copy thing too today.
How much weight have you added to your vehicle with this and the recent additions to the batteries and solar panels?
I can’t tell you the combined weight but I know I mentioned the battery weight in that video and of course I mentioned the weight gain in this video, not sure I did in the solar video. We will be up rating the van to 5500kg and will do something on that when we do
You’ve missed the biggest question cost?
Probably because it's expensive, I have seen quotes for anything up to £7600. even the lower end is £2000. I'm guess as thier van is a twin axle it's going to be higher than the £7600. Could be wrong.
Great video but how much does it cost , looked an expensive conversion
Think he said it was 12k.
@@marcuswoodhead7871 wow that’s expensive.
The price is going to vary depending on vehicle, for everything we had fitted to our chassis is £12k
As ambassadors for Swift, I assume you've been asking them serious questions like "how come I've had to spend £12k to make your top of the range motorhome fit for purpose?". It really isn't good enough for motorhomes to be damaged by grounding out so easily - your usage wasn't exactly extreme!
Hi Steve, can I ask whether this increased or decreased your insurance?
It didn’t affect my insurance. We are insured with AIB Insurance
@@RoamingRadfords Thank you for getting back to me. Keep up the great work with the videos.
Why is the camera the first tool which you reach for ....?
Most blokes open the TOOLBOX first.
I’m not most blokes, my camera is my tool
Steve
You would think with how much Motor homes cost now they would offer some kind of upgrade, knowing what can happen without?
I guess it’s a business decision as to the “cut off price” that customers are willing to pay? It’s an expensive option, but maybe in the future one that more people will be willing to consider?
I ground out our 2019 Bessacarr 599, the fresh water drain is mid point between the axles so any slight rise in the ground as the drain valve is the lowest point it’s been knocked off twice and very nearly a third time. My solution was to get some correct pipe and a couple of elbows and move it so it’s now beside the waste water tank drain valve. As both valves are nearer the rear wheel they are not affected by any slight undulations in the ground. I did have to extend the wiring for the fresh water electric drain valve, the waste tank drain valve stayed in its original position so that wiring was ok.
Sounds like a good solution to that specific problem 😊
This was an interesting video, and very informative! You both do an amazing job of presentation and explanation on your videos. The explanatory animations are so well done and clearly demonstrate what is taking place, adding an excellent level of clarity to your already outstanding presentation!
Thank you so much!
Great system however hope you got better service from Broadlane when you ripped off the waste pipe !!!
told you
😉
Unfortunately it feels like another Rolling Radford's advertisement upload 😢
Then just unsubscribe from the channel Marc
@@RoamingRadfords Done 👍
Things in life move on and I just prefer your old format over the COVID period.....each to their own
You are successful business people after all
We can’t travel all the time (pesky kids), but we do enjoy sharing our Motorhome experiences, this is just another element of our Motorhome experience that we are sharing.
Some will like it, some will find it helpful. Others are the choir that we are preaching at, some will decide it’s not going interest them so won’t click on it. And some people will take the time and effort to tell us that they don’t like it for what ever reason. We will never be able to please everyone, and we shouldn’t even try as it will be a boring video.
We can’t always travel, that sucks as it’s our favourite thing to do too.
But we wish everyone one, and their opinions well.
It’s ok if it’s not your thing, either skip the video or unsubscribe. Life is too short to be watching videos that you don’t like.
L 🧘🏼♀️ xx
Totally agree. They brag so much
Wouldn't it have been cheaper to just tell Lynsey she must empty her wine cupboard 🤔😉
Rude 🤦🏼♀️, I shall not rise to your provocative 🧌 trolling. I am Zen 🧘🏼♀️.
Cheers 🥂 and hic to you 🤣🤣🤣
8k?
Surely just buying bigger suspension springs would solve the grounding out problem at a fraction of the cost.
I use to love your old videos about motorhome travel , when TH-camrs start working with companies it feels to me like they’re selling there soul , it’s only my opinion but I did prefer your older stuff without product placement.
Shame you didn’t show a real example of how it works instead of that animated example also you said theses are the guys that know well how do you know ? Should really keep that opinion you tested it and have used it for some time
They are the industry leaders that everyone recommended in the comments that’s why they are the guys to go to and that’s why we went to them. They are also approved by the manufacturers, but I explained all this in the video.
@@RoamingRadfords thanks for you reply. Can i ask how long have you had this system installed for ? I’m looking into this kind of system so look to guys like you for accurate advice and real life tested experience
All this information was in the video Damien. We had it fitted in November, was away for December, didn’t use the van in January as it was too cold and went away in it in February where we used it for the first time. We are also away in the van right now and are continuing to put it through its paces, which we will be reporting on in our videos so keep an alert on them as they come out
@@RoamingRadfords so not that long then . I look forward as I’m sure a lot of your subscribers will be to watching your full review on this costly upgrade and how it has been performing in the real world. I just want to add iv been following your for quiet some time and enjoy watching all of you content. This is if interest so want to make sure my hard earned shillings get spent wisely. Keep up the good work on your channel and thank again for taking the time out to reply .
Its the obvious solution and great if you can afford it but you dont mention price. And you don't mention if you got this installed free in return for promoting it . Would be good to let your audience know if your salespeople for the manufactures or genuine you tubers. Its very hard to tell with the UK channels now as they always seem to be tied in with some product or other and keep flogging them like a dead horse (even though they have minuscule channels numbers )
The price will vary depending on vehicle, for everything we had fitted to our chassis is £12k. We were pleased they allowed us to film the experience and share it with our channel as most won’t let you film this kind of thing. They were also happy for us to use their animations to show how it works.
@@RoamingRadfords 12k!!!!!!! Bloody hell
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