Only 11 Clubs Played Top Flight Football, but NEVER in the Premier League
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 พ.ค. 2024
- These clubs made it to the top of English football, but never in the Premier League era.
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Notts County the only club to vote for the premier league and never play in it
Tbh, as a Millwall fan, I hope my club NEVER EVER gets into that 'corrupt' league... The F.A have their favourites and I do not want to be that seasons 'whipping' boys and lose by a record low amount of points... money has screwed that league into the ground bar the top 8 or so clubs... the rich get richer!
Rather see ‘wall than west ham in the PL. Stripey Nigel. x
And it’s that attitude why Milwall is Tim pot and always will be.
@@garyholmes5670 It's MY attitude not the clubs... not sure why you're coming in at that angle?
To be fair mate I think the club has the same ambitions.
@@turbotiger82 Hopefully as the Premier League has prostituted our national game and the only 'REAL' football is only just about alive in the lower leagues... I don't want to watch "Americanised sport'.
Bury is still the same club that were expelled from the EFL. Bury last played in the top tier in 1928/29
thought they went bankrupt?
Luton & Oldham being the only two to have played in the Premier League but also at national league level as well.
Make that 4 in the championship, come on Oxford.
I'd be ashamed to be promoted after finishing 10 points behind a club,it's pathetic!!
Very intresting vid. I'm still shocked Preston haven't been in the Prem before (They made the championship playoffs consistantly during the 2000s but never got through).
Millwall - We got relegated a few seasons before the Prem lg formed!
Crazy to think We finished above Man Utd the year before🤯
2 years before it buth otherwise correct.
@@rjjcms1 Clearly my memory is shot to pieces😅thanks
@@interstellarbeatteller9306 Happens to us all,it seems!
Northampton are also one of the few teams to have only been in the top flight for one season, that could be a good video to do.
That's interesting! I'll have to look into their one season of top flight glory.
Didn't Northampton go from 4th Division to 1st Division and back to 4th in consecutive seasons back in the 1960's ?
@@LezDentz yeah we did and it’s a world record no one’s come close to beating it but I don’t know if that’s a bad or a good thing
@@LezDentzYes that's correct. Northampton Town went from 4th Division to 1st Division then back to the 4th Division between 1960 and 1969. Swansea City did the same between 1977 and 1986, having led the 1st Division at times during the 1981/82 season.
@@LezDentz Not quite. They spent 2 seasons in the 2nd division on the way up and 2 in the 3rd on the way down.
Bradford Park Avenue
Yay 💚🤍
Luton I believe was one of these teams until their promotion last season. It will hopefully happen for these clubs again (or maybe not who knows)
You are exactly right, they got off this list with their promotion last season!
Carlisle
The defunct clubs who could also lay claim to this stat, if they still existed, are Darwen and Accrington (not Stanley, a different club entirely.) Bury mentioned in several other posts.
blimey, i got 8 of them, i missed glossop(i wouldn't have known that) northampton town i forgot, i do recall their solitary 60s campaign, bradford PA, wasn't sure they'd been in the old first division, i also named the original Accrington FC(totally different club to both versions of Stanley who've never been in the top flight) i'm sure Accrington were still in the top flight when it became the first division after about 4 seasons? certainly they were in the original 12 of the football league, it would appear i'm wrong though!
How about a video about the club that never played old Division One but played in the Premier League?
Even the teams in the Championship are not looking like getting to the Premier League. Thrre are much bigger clubs in the Championship. These clubs are doing alright though. They shouldn't be tempted to overstretch themselves.
Theres 5 teams id love to see promoted to prem..Preston, Bristol City, Milwall, Sheffield Wednesday and Coventry city..i remember the last 2 being in the prem, it would be great to see them in the top tier again
Selfishly I'm hoping for Sunderland next season. Not super hopeful at all, but just wishing at this point. I'd love to see some clubs though that haven't been to the prem make it up next year!
Preston North End have been in 7 fa cup finals (won 2) Apart from the 2 league titles...were runners up 6 times, twice in the 1950s....one was by one goal difference to Arsenal.....the other teams have nothing on them.....they really are in their late winter of discontent.
Good, hate that club 🍊
In the 50s it was goal average rather than goal difference, which was taken into account.
@@chchedda lasher? 😀
Leyton Orient Got promoted With Liverpool, Next Season We Got Relegated With Manchester City. We Are Doing OK These Days Don't Know What Happened To The Other Two . Any Idea ?
You don't need to start each word with a capital letter.
@@englishciderlover7347cMON tHE o’S. aNY bETTER?
Hearing an American pronounce Glossop was unexpectedly satisfying
I do my best hahaha For cities and towns I haven't heard of I really try to look up pronunciation guides, but sometimes I even question those. I did a video on Norwegian football and although I did my best, trying to pronounce cities in Norway was tough. hahaha
I certainly hope so too!!! Ha'way the lads!
Up the Cobblers 👞
Is Glossop North End not considered active?
They're still active. The reason they hop off the screen is because they are playing in non-league football at the moment further down the ladder.
There’s only two North Ends. Two North Ends…..
GRIMSBY TOWN BEFORE AND AFTER THE WAR. CREATED THE RECORD ATTENDANCE AT OLD TRAFFORD, NOT MANCHESTER UNITED HOWEVER.
Oxford United are in this year's League One playoff final, so they could also be a Championship team next year.
I hope so... Oxford is my favourite city in England.
Yep! I'll be watching and hoping for them to get promoted.
Bradford City have been in the Premier League. At the turn of the century!
Bradford City have, that's correct. The Bradford that is being referred to in the video is Bradford AFC or Bradford Park Avenue, it's a different club.
@samkirkegaard but the Bradford P.A. that exists today, is a phoenix club, not the original. After they went out of the EFL in 1970 or 71, they eventually went bust. A new club was formed, so are not the original entity.
Glossop is the smallest town to have had a top flight club.
True true!
Go Glossop
Wasn't Accrington a founder of the Football League too?
That was Accrington FC, who went out of business early on. (19th century). The current football league team is Accrington Stanley, a different club altogether.
They sure were! They are one of the non-active clubs that have done this. I suppose it is hard to play in the Premier League when you folded over 100 years ago. hahaha
@@samkirkegaard failing on a mere technicality:-)
I was thinking about that myself you could also include Darwen and Bury. I thought perhaps it was because Accrington was a reformed team which would also knock out Darwen and Bury... But Park Avenue shouldn't be included then either.
@@mjc8281 I suppose from what I read, since I wasn't alive at the time, Park Avenue never stopped playing even when they went bankrupt. They just started playing amateur Sunday league football. So, I included them because it didn't seem like the start of a separate club when they went under. They just kept playing then eventually became a professional or semi-professional club again. Where as Bury FC when they went under, supporters bought the name, history, memorabilia, etc. Then a different club, Bury AFC, was started by a separate group of supporters. Later on it was voted they merge the two clubs and the two clubs merged history. So, once again it didn't seem like one active club throughout. Bury FC, the original club, was in the top flight, not the new merged club even though they decided to merge their history. With Darwen FC, they went under in 2009 and then a new club AFC Darwen was formed separately, then later on in 2022 they changed the name to Darwen Football Club after the previously fallen club. But, once again, I wasn't in the room for all these decisions, so I can only go by what I read and hear. So in the video Bury FC is the club that played top flight football, the new merged club hasn't. Same with Darwen FC, they played top flight football, AFC Darwen which was renamed later on has not. Either way, that's why I came to these conclusions in the video. At least from what I understood that was the most accurate way to represent the clubs that were active vs. non-active defunt or reformed new clubs. But, I'm learning new stuff all the time, so I'm open to being wrong.
Bury were in top flight up until the 1920's
They were but the video is concentrating on those that are still active.
@@user-hk2el1th7qyou mean like Bury?
@@seyvendSam Kirkegaard explains it in replies to other posts.
never heard of glossop.....the club i mean. A fall from grace!
Who were the other 3?
Accrington FC which folded over 100 years ago. Bury FC, which folded in 2020, and a group of supporters acquired the name, history, memorabilia etc. In 2021 Bury AFC was created and joined the 10th tier of English football. Then in 2023 the supporters who owned the Bury FC name voted to merge with the Bury AFC club and it was approved. So, although the clubs combined, really it's a different club with the same name three years later. The other one is Darwen FC who folded in 2009. Then a new club AFC Darwen was formed in the same year. In 2022 AFC Darwen decided to take the name of the previously fallen club so AFC Darwen is now Darwen FC again.
Are Bradford Park Avenue still a club. I obviously know Bradford are but not sure about the former
Yep! They are playing. They got relegated to the Northern Premier League Division One East this season.
Knew my Bristol City would be in there. Perpetual disappointment.
And wasn't there controversy surrounding the way they were relegated from the top flight?
Last up there early 80s as an argyle fan I would love to see the Robins back up there again
@@rjjcms1You may be thinking of Sunderland's relegation in 1977. They, Coventry and Bristol City went into the last match of the season all battling to stay up. Sunderland were away at Everton and lost 2-0. Coventry played Bristol City and kick off was delayed 15 minutes or so due to crowd congestion. In a blood and thunder game Coventry went 2-0 up before Bristol City fought back to equalise. With 15 minutes to go the tannoy announcer gave the Sunderland score, meaning both clubs would stay up if the game ended as a draw. The draw was duly achieved without either team menacing the opposition goal after that.
@@user-hk2el1th7q You're right. That was the one I meant. My mistake. Thanks!
Bradford have been in the Premier League 99-2001
Bradford City did, not Bradford (Park Avenue), which is the club I'm talking about in the video.
Sheffield Wednesday?
Sheffield Wednesday played in the Premier League from 1992-2000 when they got relegated and haven't been back since so they don't qualify to make the list.
Bradford have played in the Premier league in the 2000 season
That's where you're wrong. But only if you know the Footballing heritage of the city. That's because, prior to the 1970s, the team you're talking about, Bradford City, were absolutely never referred to simply as Bradford. When people talking Football mentioned Bradford, they were talking about a completely different club. Bradford were in the top flight in the years either side of World War One and played at Park Avenue stadium. The city of course also had a Bradford Rugby club so Bradford, when written down, always put the name of their stadium, Park Avenue in brackets. Hence the team being Bradford {Park Avenue} Bradford City were never referred to as simply Bradford, until Bradford {Park Avenue} went bust in the 70s. So, he's quite right, Bradford have never played in the Premier League whereas Bradford City have. Indeed for a brief period either side of the great war, Bradford had a top flight local derby.
Sadly, Bradford PA have just been relegated for the second successive season, and will be in the eighth tier for 2024/5.
@@TheGiantKillers I think Bradford was the smallest city/town to have two football league teams. When Park Avenue went bust, Nottingham was the smallest place with more than one league side. Compare to the population of Leeds, with one team.
Sam's best friend has 6 fingers on one of his hands. He contributed to this video by explaining to Sam what 11 really meant.
Not sure you can include Bradford Park Avenue as the club folded in 1970 and may not be the only one. That the name is used I don’t see as the same club, eg AFC Wimbledon did not win the FACup not that their supporters will say otherwise.
You missed Plymouth Argyle
Plymouth Argyle have never played top flight football. In fact, I think this is correct, but Plymouth is the largest city in England to have never hosted a top flight men's football team.
@@samkirkegaard That's true. Plymouth took over the mantle of largest city never to have had a top flight football team from Hull when Hull City were promoted to the Premier League in 2008.
Bradford have played in the Premier League but Bradford Park Avenue have not. Shoddy research
Bradford City have played in the PL, which is not the club I reference in the video. When I reference Bradford, the Bradford (Park Avenue) logo is displayed showing the audience that's the club I'm referencing. Bradford (Park Avenue) is officially called Bradford AFC, they only added the (Park Avenue) to differentiate themselves from Bradford City and Bradford Northern RLFC. Still their club uses those names interchangeably Bradford AFC, Bradford, or simply Park Avenue. Since 1907, when the initial rugby club Bradford FC changed to start playing football, the club was referred to as "Bradford" in fixtures lists, results, and in the press.
Bang on the money. Couldn't have put it better myself.
Cambridge United
Cambridge United have never been in the top division.
Sorry, was thinking of Oxford 🤔
Bradford have definitely been in the PL
Bradford City have but that Bradford is a different club
Love football...hate corrupt money grabbing premier league. Just a money making gimmick that hopefully will one day go bankrupt 😂
Bradford have played in the premier league..
Bradford City have played in the PL. Bradford Park Avenue is a different club, which is the club referenced in this video.
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@@DS-od1kb Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiillwall
'The Millwall drone'
@@interstellarbeatteller9306 How uninteresting.
@@DS-od1kb We also sing Hey Jude, but I guess The Beatles are too old & boring for you!
Bristol City will never make it to the Premier League because we have a board of directors who only appoint spineless yes men in key positions. They care more about their own egos than about seeing our club progress. We’re going nowhere.
I feel for you. Seems to be a theme with a lot of clubs. I hope it happens for you at some point though.
After what happened last time they were in the old first division, namely 3 successive relegations, I suspect the directors are afraid of being promoted.
COULD BE FOUR OXFORD ARE IN THE PLAYOFF FINAL. AND IPSWICH DID BACK TO BACK PROMOTION.
Amen. Been waiting to see the Robins in the Premier League since I was 7. Almost 30 years later, and I'm so sick of how mediocre we are. And more broadly, it's a disgrace that Bristol has no team in the top flight.
100%, I thought it would change when Mark Ashton left, now he’s in the prem 🙄
There are so many meaningless stats around in football these days, and this is another one. Obviously Americans don't understand how football works in England.