The Art of capturing MASSIVE Drum Recordings (Full course)- Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro
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Awesome vid! but where are the downloadable samples?
Coming soon@@kahlilsmith5243
Yes!@@kahlilsmith5243 Here are the drum samples:- producelikeapro.lpages.co/mike-arango-drum-samples/
Well Warren, what can I say but thanks for this video. Im going to watch it several times and take notes. This is a brilliant step by step for anyone wanting to understand all the nuances of recording drums for any genre.
This is such a good video, so in depth and informative without ever stepping in to 'information overload'. Really interesting seeing the discussion and examples of different snare muffling techniques.
Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it
We love Mike! He's an amazing engineer and a great guy!
Fantastic. Well done guys that really informative. Down to the brass tacks. Thanks very much and a big thanks to the PLAP team
Thanks ever so much Joey! I really appreciate it!
I continue to be impressed that you include the secrets others leave out- such as the ‘other room’ mic. I saw the mic in the wooden box there and thought ‘they’ve done it again!’ Good stuff
Aw shucks! Thanks ever so much
This one's cued up for tomorrow morning. Looking forward to it!
Great! I hope you enjoy
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thanks to all!! it was fun to sit in for all the 'sperimenting with the drum tricks
Thanks ever so much Adrian!
So many great snare "sounds" with the various dampening!
Very interesting video. It confirms the concept that drums are the hardest instrument to mic properly and it is best to capture the sound at the source versus the fix it in the mix mindset. With my experience in the academy which I have witnessed in this video the room mics and overheads are CRITICAL in capturing the drums as they appear to be the foundation of the entire sound so attention to detail is paramount.
Thanks for watching! I really appreciate your commentary!
This was awesome thank you! I struggle like crazy to get a good drum recording.
Yessss more Mike Arango videos 🔊🔊
Thanks ever so much Eddie! We love Mike!
Thank you for this great video Warren and for making it Mike! You guys Rock!
Thanks ever so much!
YOU Rock!
Thanks, that was really useful. Especially the part comparing the different tools for snare dampening, and the effect they have on a well-mic'd snare. I liked the spirit of curiousity, experimentation and listening here.
I LOVE the new "Drops" muffling system from Tandem Drums. Different weight options , no adhesive, and they just slip on a lug of whatever kit piece you want.
It bounces with the head so it acts as a gated muffler and is fantastic!
Thanks ever so much for sharing!
Great as always warren 🤘
Thanks ever so much!
Excellent stuff -- that API board,....wow, love it. Anyway -- the discussions on options to dampening the snare very cool -- I have the brass snare weight and leathers that work really well for certain things. Moon gels always gotta have -- I'll have to get some of the donut stuff. Mic'ing the shell I've found is useful if you want more snap/cut in a dense rock/punk or metal mix. Anyway, thanks for this one Warren - cheers!
Thanks ever so much for sharing Billy! I do love micing the shell, works great for single hits, terrible for bleed of course! Haha
Great stuff! Thanx!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Mike! He’s my sales rep! He’s the coolest!
Yes!! He’s pretty darn awesome isn’t he?
it is nice to have a lot of room options. For me, a sm57 in the back of a wall is all i need.
I do love a sm57 against the wall! I used a pair against the wall very often indeed!
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Thanks ever so much
It never ceases to amaze me with all the various ideas of what people consider "A good drum sound." I appreciate seeing someone else's approach to recording drums but this hardly would be considered "massive" drums as stated in the title of this video!!! No wonder people (engineers) complain about drummers smashing the schnizzle crap out of their cymbals when you have drummers putting all that weighted dampening on the drums. I'd really like you Warren to do a video of Simon Phillips who you say you know do a video on how he records and mixes his drums. He's an excellent drummer as well as an excellent engineer!!! Incidentally, Simon doesn't use any dampening on his drums and has one of the best drum sounds in the industry along with people like Dave Weckl and Todd Sucherman of Styx.
Yeah, I though "massive" was gonna be Bonham in a stair well
@Warren
I saw you had a black Engl Artist Edition.
What do you use it for? I LOVE that amp but split the fx loop out to a Mesa Rectifier and JCM 2000 poweramp.
That’s very cool! I haven’t tried that! I love ENGL Amps!
I remember when "How to change a life" came out I thought, "Great song, but those drums! Great message, but those drums! Great recording, but those drums!" The drums really stood out for me and was instrumental (pun intended) in my playing the song again and again.
Aw shucks! Thanks ever so much John!
Hay, it's SWEETWATER MIKE! My Sales Engineer!
Great dude who really knows his Shiatzu! 🤟🤖🤟
Thanks, 😊
Thanks ever so much
I hear a bit too air coming to the united. I have gotten good results putting my warm audio jr 47 ( nothing close to your league of course) more towards the edge and closer to the head. It's proximity effect is really great and could prevent you from using all that eq on the way in.
Question.....why don't folks use PZM for room/ambient/overheads...?? They capture the room/space as if you were in the room, amazing soundstage / imaging....a sonic foundation to build upon....cheers from Vancouver Island..!
Some do! It can be great!
Also I absolutely love api for drums man. Nothing beats it as far as punch and rock n roll. My choice by far. And the 2500 for drum compression. Woooo baby. Just always works.
Hi Warren, Thank you for the video and making this free. Please where do I find the link to the download the drum stems? I can't see the Link to it in the description
Thanks ever so much!
Here are the drum samples:- producelikeapro.lpages.co/mike-arango-drum-samples/
What is used for audio input in production of the this video?
What is the name of the over heads boom stand ?
Great video... Which is the link to download the drums from the video?
Thanks ever so much!
Here are the drum samples:- producelikeapro.lpages.co/mike-arango-drum-samples/
WARREN MY GOOD MAN!
So heavy drums overall between -15 and -10 finally in pro tools for single tracks?
love that drummer :) what's his name?
how are the snare in the rack not making noise?
Turn snare wires off or and put fabric between them / drum maybe? Just a guess but yeah weird to mic w those so close
Hi Thunder! It's pretty darn normal to have snares in a drum room and to turn them off or dampen them! I can think of 100's of studios where there's snares in there.
Yes, that's very common!@@chinmeyswaySo many studios that record drums have snares in there! Dampening them is not difficult at all and VERY common!
Not to mention every session Drummer I've ever used will bring a number of snares which sit behind the kit, with the snares off!
Snares are tricky man. The room plays a huge roll in close mic sound. Also tuning a snare lower then you normally would makes it sounds bigger. It's def an art
Acrolite.....yep. I have an Oriollo 5.5x14" aluminum, so more or less the same as an Acrolite. I like it a LOT more for recording than my $$$$ cast bronze DW 6.5x14". Big beefy snare does not necessarily equal big bold recorded sound.
Hmmmm side mic +top mic besides bottom mic is enticing
Thanks for sharing!
Mic off-axis on the snare air hole adds a natural punch not obtainable by any other technique.
Thanks for sharing!
He is committing the EQ. lol I am more into mic choice… eq later. But, in the old days more likely we EQ’d.
He's doing both! Choosing the right mic and applying EQ where needed! Committing the sound to 'tape' (DAW)!
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Please download the drum samples here:- producelikeapro.lpages.co/mike-arango-drum-samples/
How to capture massive drums? Have hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of gear in a professional studio live room.
Warren I believe the OH’s should be measured from the kick not the snare. The kick should be centered in the stereo field, not the snare. In countless records the snare is a little off to the left or right and the kick is centered, this is how it should be, this is what makes sense. Also, when we look at a drum set from the audience, the snare is never in the middle, the kick is. 😊
This is a small kit.
You're right, and I also disagree. The kick isn't as loud in the OH's, especially when high passed.
I also kind of think it doesn't matter that much. I'd be just as happy with centering them between the kick and snare instead.
I think the point is the snare has more high frequencies so it is more critical to get it in phase in the OH (higher frequencies = shorter wavelengths) for it to appear centred and mix to mono well
Hi Tony, thanks for your comment! Always measured phase to the snare, then the whole top end of the kit is in phase, toms aligned etc. I've personally never mixed a snare off centre, if you want to do that because you feel that the way it looks is more important that's perfect;y fine!
Yes, plus the rest of the kit will appear properly in your overhead mics@@royglennie
Gee, I feel bad for any drummer having to get sounds with this guy. You're in for a long day. 😜
The video took 2 hours to film with Mike talking about everything in detail and edited it's one hour and 7 mins! He's typically up and running within 30 mins! If that's a long day...haha
And 2 hours later the client was burnt out and had no creativity left
I get burnt out as the engineer haha. I like to do all the sound setup the night before doing the recording
lol. That is why you do this stuff before the client shows up to track. I am a drummer and guitar player so fortunately I can dial in things way before tracking. Tuning drums also can take forever. Good point though lol
“ massive drums” Are a product of smart song arrangement, not microphone placement. If you want to learn something, I suggest you listen to Mutt Lange’s work with Def Leppard.
Yes, Mutt Lange's use of Drum Samples (often fully programmed drums, not even live!) some Room ambience, and Digital Reverbs (Lexicon etc) created large drum sounds. All of these techniques are available if you don't want to record natural drums like we did here!
@@Producelikeapro How Mutt Lange created the drum tones isn’t nearly as important as how he showcased them in the arrangements. For example, the snare drum on “Pour Some Sugar On Me” sounds so big because it’s the only instrument being played on over 50% of the snare hits throughout the song.
ahh yes, the most important part of making a record - not worrying about how the drums sound
@@frederickbaugher8361 Every time I see you make a comment, you're always so humble and polite. Never trying to shoehorn in your own trite opinions in a totally bitter, condescending manner as if they are maxims sent down from on high. You seem like you must be a really popular person who's great at parties. 👍🏻
This is so true. So many bands have super dense arrangements and wonder why you can't hear everything clearly
Gotta say quite disappointed in the sound of this kit. Not sure if it’s the engineering or the kit itself, but it sounds so weak, annoying snare, too much sizzle on the symbols/ HH. Just sounds very raw, not in a good way. And yes I’m listening through good headphones that I know well… this is just eh. The room size is also not helping.
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