I realize on the parallel “squisher I quoted attack and release speeds backwards. For the record, FAST release is the key element. I start with one of the slower attack speeds and adjust to shape/control the transient just right. Sorry for the speaking error gang
Thanks Joe, really enjoyed the video. RED Rock Sound do an awesome API 550B plug-in. A lesser known developer but they put out consistently good emulations
Thanks for going into the nuances of the SSL Saturation. I started using it on my drums and it really gives them a punch. Love the channel and all your recommendations!
'Playing' the SSL channel strip almost like an instrument, so impressive. So fast, so intuitive, so quick to achieve results, it is obvious that you know that console like it's your second nature. Amazing.
I could listen and watch Joe for hours !!!!! I learn so much out from him, his concept and mindset about mixing are priceless. It would have been great to see how he deals with those nasty resonances (specially on that snare !!!). Regards.
I was adjusting a plugin limiter (and saturator) earlier today and for whatever reason, in experimenting with different oversampling options realized the highest isn't always best to my ears. I actually turned it off altogether on the latter in processing a kick drum. I've learned a bit about aliasing and all that so can't truly explain my rationale. Hearing things in context, that is, in the mix is really important.
Often I can’t hear the difference in context either. Or even in solo. We probably get more hung up than we should on certain technical specs than we need to. Thanks for watching and commenting Andrew.
I love the Kazrog True Iron or I use Acustica Audio Gold Pre then Shadow Hills then Acustica Pink maybe finish with IK Multimedia Tape or Waves Kramer Tape. So many awesome options. Rock on Joe🤘
Dude, I JUST started using the Shadow Hills on my drum buss, and wowsers- yes - it really does what you said it does! My other regular go-to's on the drum buss are the old ToneBusters RealBuss, the Ignite Amps PTQe-X eq (I like it better than my Waves Pultec) and the StillWell Event Horizon limiter/clipper. Only on super-heavy stuff do I use a saturator - maybe an Audio-Assault Headcrusher. Gotta be careful there - it doesn't do subtle.
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell - You're very welcome. I have a project that is at that critical final stage of mixing (12 songs) and this so-called mastering compressor is helping me get that final 2-3% drum *pop* in the mix without overbearing the mix. There are loads of BGV's (our congregation double-tracked), and plenty of B3 gluing everything together, so it's already pretty thick. Using the "Discrete Iron" preset to begin. Love it. Been doing this full-time since 1997, and even at 62 we "can be taught"! Thanks for this.
Thank you Sonny!! Just had a cupcake with a candle 🎂 haha. I sometimes really exaggerate the ring to make it feel aggressive and angry. And lengthen the sustain. But other songs or genres it does need to be tamed. I think either way can be proper. Always a judgement call.
Thanks Joe, there's so many different flavors and choices to make sometimes and you shed alot of light on that, in this video. The how, when and why. Your a legend. Big thanks to the PLAP team.
Great Video! Very helpful. Made me realize that I could simplify my drumbus and overall plugin use on individual tracks and still get a much better and punchier sound.
Joe you do your videos so well, I'm an attentive viewer and you learn so much from it, thank you very much for your work and your knowledge...... i stay tuned !!
🤩 The TE-100 recreates this piece of German sound history with impeccable realism, right down to the buttons on the interface and the tube filter bypass.
Mind-blowingly good, Joe! I love the console strips even if I don't fully understand them. But I understand them quite a bit more after watching this. Thanks!
I produce using a lot of drum breaks, sampled drum fills, with stomps, claps, and tambs. I'd love to see how Joe approaches treating that sound. I may just have to drive to Nashville and figure out.
Always song dependent. Matching the snare to the song is a big deal to me. This one was being layered with loopy elements and hand claps. Worked great as a finished package. Thanks for watching Norman.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell - Great video Joe!!! I love how you demonstrated the drum processing you use. The drums really sound good. Everyone knows that a great drum sound starts from recording great sounding drums with great mics and great mic preamps. You really didn't say anything in the video about how the drums were recorded and I'd really like to know, assuming you remember, what you did when recording these drums? Did you EQ or compress on the way in? I'm a drummer for many more years than I want to admit and want to get the best recorded sound I can!!! I'm guessing that recording process could be a whole video itself. Thanks for what you do for PLAP and looking forward to future videos!!! Bless you Joe and hope you had a great B-Day!!! 😎🎶
Thank you Tom!! It was quite a few years ago but likely some eq on the kick and toms. Also probably a little top on the snare. Lite compression on the snare top and bottom, kick, and heavier on the rooms. That was likely all.
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Thanks Joe, that helps. I know from watching other videos of engineers and they tend to do some EQ and compression on the way in which is something I haven't been doing. Time for more experimenting to get the sound I'm hearing in my head and get that sound into my mixes. Thanks!!!
If staying in the box, for drums I usually reach for API channel strips and bus them down to the API master bus both by brainworks or the 1176 by UAD. The SSL Bus Compressor Native lives on my master bus until I purchase the hardware 😅. I have the SSL Native Channel strip and will have to give it a spin on drums. I have yet to wrap my head around the shadow hills. I have it, but got lost as it is not laid out intuitively. Luckily it was free because of my coupons with Brainworks.
Some good choices there! On the shadow hills, try mentally breaking it down into an LA2a on top, an SSL buss compressor in the middle, and a few transformer output options on the bottom. It’s worth wading through the cluster of knobs 😂 Best wishes and thanks for watching
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Aye thanks a lot I really appreciate it! This video was very helpful as I took some notes... Regarding the Shadow Hills ahhhhh now that makes sense to me. Thank you so much for breaking it down in those terms. Now that is something I can understand and will get in there and start turning some dials 😊
Great Video Thank You So Much.I would love to Hear Joe's thoughts on Paul Thirds opinion regarding the Kit Plugins.... Paul was not too kind to say the least. Sounded great to me with what Joe was doing with the BB73
I’m unfamiliar with the video you mention, but I’ve definitely been enjoying what I can only describe as a realistic “analog” sound from them. Especially the 73 and A5 (API). Seems to hit a new level of analog punch from software. But UA and Plug-in Alliance also version of both that I like too. So by all means, use whichever you have. Thank you for watching Mark!
This was fire! 😀🔥 More of this would be highly appreciated 👌🏻👌🏻 Question; does the “humming tale” on the snare not bother you? Like, it will not be audible in the mix?
Thank you! More is on the way 🎉 The resonance would really be song dependent. On this song on I remember well that we were playing along to some loop bits with a variety of backbeat elements. So everyone felt like we needed that rain for a sense of aggression and also separation. In the mix, it actually worked great. I’m pretty big on snare drum tuning matching this song. Check it out, Caleb Lovely “Smile”. Thanks again
I guess the song didn't change key. That could get quite unpleasant otherwise. Since I never write a song that doesn't change key, I couldn't ever leave a snare humming like this. Drum tuning is fairly irrelevant for me because I use so many non-diatonic chords.
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell I just went to listen to the song, and it's tight. There is no resonant tail and I'm purposefully listening for it. Are you certain you kept it? Cheers.
Super cool! I must be doing something right, cause I felt like I was watching Joe describe my drum workflow almost exactly! Question: Why do many mixers put their SD sample track as a separate track? I use my Trigger plugin on the SD track and use/automate the mix knob in Trigger. In the past, when I have made my trigger a separate track, I had to group it to the SD track for volume adjust, seems like more hassle?
I personally always want mine printed as a separate track. It will live with the project forever and never be tied to a sample that isn’t part of that session. Plus, typically I will EQ it or compress it or send it to parallel treatments differently than I do the primary drum.
PLAP'ers - almost all videos really revolve around rock music. Any chance Joe or others would do a look at plugins in other genres? Like a Jazz kit or other popular music? I know the tips translate but many videos sound like how to beef things up for rock recordings.
The kit plugins neve looks nice, they also have a new API. They are a very shady company though- and though I purchased the earlier neve eq they made (which is very good) I cant bring myself to buy more of their products. Great tips, lovely video. Loving your drum pack!
Especially because each time they boost their value. BB $99 n73 $150 API $200. So the API is double the value of the BB that put them on the map?! No… it just makes it so subscribing to a handful of plugins seems more viable when the time comes.
@@jorykevinberger7047 correct. Also, the whole conundrum with the BB EQ they “modeled”. Paul Third (correctly) roasted them on that. Literally a straight-up 20 year old textbook EQ algorithm with a fancy GUI. They even did a shootout with a real unit and LPFed the source at like 10kHz or something the hide the horrible cramping (I may have the exact specifics wrong, but you can check out the Paul Third videos for exact details).
That was a great video! Although I must say that I got very distracted by the ringing of the snare when compressed. Maybe it's a tom ringing with the snare hits, but that tone got very distracting.
Amazing video! Thanks so much. I do have a question.. I see that the drums and parallel comp are being sent to your "Buss DnB." Would that be for just the drums here? Or would you also send bass (bass guitar, bass synths) through that as well? Have seen that before and would just love to know. Thanks again!
Was that low ringing driving anyone else crazy? I could tell the overall drum tone was improving, but all I could focus on was that G3 ringing out. I'm sure that's something that could be notched out, so I wish it had been for the purposes of this demo even if it sounded fine in the context of a song.
The snare drum, I think. It was driving me crazy. It's okay for drums to have a distinct note, but that was way too loud. I would have notched some of it out.
Been working through this video today on my drums…. The neve on my snare in particular is a revelation! Can anyone suggest an alternative to the Lindell on the drum bus? I can’t buy any more plug ins!!!
I thought the fastest attack on an 1176 was 7? I seem to remember it being counter-intuitive isn't it? I think the 1176 is fairly unique in this regard. Is it different on the BF76?
Joe, how many times per week do you exercise at home or at gym??? Amazingly looking sound engineer is a key to gain attention to our inudstry. Usually when it comes up to “sound engineer” it’s not greatly lookin guys… (i’m not gay and not hitting on you) just complimenting.
Haha. Thank you sir. It always differs depending on my workload, but I definitely like to get in there a couple times a week. It’s key to my mental focus to handle the long days and workloads. Honestly think it’s just as good, if not better, for my brain than it is anything.
There's a snare resonance (it's the snare right?) that never got addressed. Are we just to assume that that got taken care of eventually? It stayed there through the entire video.
I find that sometimes, after dialling in a great setting in the moment, if I reopen the session next day etc even though it's the same setting i.e. gating settings , it reacts differently ,, which is making me think I should capture each sound as I go but that could be a massive pain in the ass. I was using nuendo and the ssl channel strip 2 plug UC1. Im thinking maybe it could be the daw. For sure the other day I was on some percussion and had dialled in amazing gate sound but reopened the session and it was 'spitting' not how it was on the original day; I believe that its important to 'capture' the magic, on time based stuff, like gated percussions, and, the first vocal reverb automated ride and delay etc. But even though that is my observation, Im not going to lol because that would be a pain in the ass! I might however at the end of a long mixing session bounce down all files though because I SWEAR TO YOU it sound different the next day lol.
I stopped using the SSL plugins. To my ears it felt like they were simulating the “SSL punch” by maybe using transient shaping? I have zero evidence of this, I want to be careful to say - but - what is an EQ doing giving punch to a sound??? I want an EQ, not more attack every time I use a plug. As always, YMMV. Thanks for the great video!
Thank you James. When I say analog “punch” I’m more referring to when adding high mid frequency or boosting substantially through the eq (and it’s active electronic circuitry) it hits harder after processing. A very different thing than a digital signal boost without hitting either a real or virtual analog circuit. It’s very hard to put into words, but API and SSL are two of the very best for this. Which is why they became THE sound of modern aggressive music whereas other circuits and digital software can sound “polite” or soft. Which is also valuable. Again very hard to put into words. But I use various tools to shape the end result. Am I trying to push the listener back in their chair with power? Am I Trying to pull them towards the speakers with warm round edges? It’s a huge part of the craft to me
Now the question becomes is it the plugins per se or the awesome EQ moves that Warren and others of his calibre have taught as I suspect the final product would sound almost as good on stock plugins although I would rather stub my toe than stay with stock lololol
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What are some of your favourite plugins for processing drums? Share below!
Love my SSL 4K B and Bus Compressor.
I like either Pulsar MU or UAD Fairchild on the drum bus for color.
Thanks for sharing!@@doug.heartstringssound
Waves Api 2500 Bus Comp ; UAD Api Ch. Strip ; SSL Drumstrip
Forgot Trigger 2 Slate, Awesome on Kick and Snare a bit!
Joe Carrell is almost the only one who doesn't speak between a bypassed and active plugin state, much appreciated ;)
I get yelled at for that sometimes too 😂 thank you for watching 🎉
Haha don't we all! I also get yelled at for not creating a break between! Haha@@InTheMixJoeCarrell
I realize on the parallel “squisher I quoted attack and release speeds backwards. For the record, FAST release is the key element. I start with one of the slower attack speeds and adjust to shape/control the transient just right. Sorry for the speaking error gang
Thanks, Joe! You ROCK!
my good friend is back. absolute legend.
@@FromTheHipp thank you for watching!
We know what you meant 😂😂😂
Thanks Joe, really enjoyed the video. RED Rock Sound do an awesome API 550B plug-in. A lesser known developer but they put out consistently good emulations
Another great great informative video. I must say personally I am a sucker for the UA Neve channel strip on drums and the Pultec EQs.
Thank you for watching Ronny
The Te-100 is so magical, i dare using it on the master buss. Reaper can then ensure dry/wet ratios
It’s great🎉
Thanks for going into the nuances of the SSL Saturation. I started using it on my drums and it really gives them a punch.
Love the channel and all your recommendations!
Awesome ! Thank you for following along Matthew
I love Joe Carells demos. He sounds like a really nice person and it's easy to understand what he's learning. Thanx.
Thanks ever so much
Thank you!! I appreciate your support
Joe is such a GREAT Teacher. I learn so much every time I watch him.
Thank you! Have a great weekend.
Thanks, You Too!
'Playing' the SSL channel strip almost like an instrument, so impressive. So fast, so intuitive, so quick to achieve results, it is obvious that you know that console like it's your second nature. Amazing.
Yes, he's the man!
I do LOOOOVE those desks 😂😂 Thanks a ton for watching and the great comments 🎉
You Rock!@@InTheMixJoeCarrell
I think that's what these channel strips give you, a quick way to dial in tones quickly without too many options
@@stupidusername38 most everything we need and with FLAVOR and punch and all things good! 🎉🎉
Thank you watching
I could listen and watch Joe for hours !!!!! I learn so much out from him, his concept and mindset about mixing are priceless. It would have been great to see how he deals with those nasty resonances (specially on that snare !!!).
Regards.
Thank you!
Yeah, that ringing was driving me crazy.
The focusrite console by plugin alliance is so accurate and "Neve" clean that i prefere it above any SSL console (clone)
The list is great. I love the UA dbx 160. I found it works particularly nicely on ezdrummer tracks I've used it on.
That’s my go to on snare drum for tracking days. Get that sound on tape 🎉🎉
I love the DBX 160
I was adjusting a plugin limiter (and saturator) earlier today and for whatever reason, in experimenting with different oversampling options realized the highest isn't always best to my ears. I actually turned it off altogether on the latter in processing a kick drum. I've learned a bit about aliasing and all that so can't truly explain my rationale. Hearing things in context, that is, in the mix is really important.
Often I can’t hear the difference in context either. Or even in solo. We probably get more hung up than we should on certain technical specs than we need to. Thanks for watching and commenting Andrew.
I love the Kazrog True Iron or I use Acustica Audio Gold Pre then Shadow Hills then Acustica Pink maybe finish with IK Multimedia Tape or Waves Kramer Tape. So many awesome options. Rock on Joe🤘
Thank you Arlo! Have a good week 👊🏼👊🏼✌🏼✌🏼
Dude, I JUST started using the Shadow Hills on my drum buss, and wowsers- yes - it really does what you said it does!
My other regular go-to's on the drum buss are the old ToneBusters RealBuss, the Ignite Amps PTQe-X eq (I like it better than my Waves Pultec) and the StillWell Event Horizon limiter/clipper. Only on super-heavy stuff do I use a saturator - maybe an Audio-Assault Headcrusher. Gotta be careful there - it doesn't do subtle.
Thank you Tim 👊🏼👊🏼✌🏼✌🏼
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell - You're very welcome. I have a project that is at that critical final stage of mixing (12 songs) and this so-called mastering compressor is helping me get that final 2-3% drum *pop* in the mix without overbearing the mix. There are loads of BGV's (our congregation double-tracked), and plenty of B3 gluing everything together, so it's already pretty thick. Using the "Discrete Iron" preset to begin. Love it.
Been doing this full-time since 1997, and even at 62 we "can be taught"! Thanks for this.
Happy Birthday Joe! No concern about the ring in the snare? Am I wasting time trying dial those annoying rings out? Thanks a million! ☘💪🏽👀👍🏽☘
Thank you Sonny!! Just had a cupcake with a candle 🎂 haha. I sometimes really exaggerate the ring to make it feel aggressive and angry. And lengthen the sustain. But other songs or genres it does need to be tamed. I think either way can be proper. Always a judgement call.
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Thanks so much! Enjoy your day! yay! 🔥🧨💪🏽🤠👍🏽🧨🔥
I LOVE a ring for energy!@@InTheMixJoeCarrell
You Rock@@SonnyGreenwichJr
Joe Carell is about as good as it gets. Everything he touches sounds amazing!
Thank you friend!🎉
Thanks Joe, there's so many different flavors and choices to make sometimes and you shed alot of light on that, in this video. The how, when and why. Your a legend. Big thanks to the PLAP team.
Thank you Joey! Have a great week
Glad it was helpful!
You Rock!@@InTheMixJoeCarrell
The Shadow Hills “red” version is my goto on the 2 buss. The transformer types are very useful. It’s hard to make a mistake with this compressor.
It’s a great one for sure. Nice and tight
Great Video! Very helpful. Made me realize that I could simplify my drumbus and overall plugin use on individual tracks and still get a much better and punchier sound.
Marvellous! Thanks ever so much for sharing
Awesome! Happy new year 🎊
Joe you do your videos so well, I'm an attentive viewer and you learn so much from it, thank you very much for your work and your knowledge...... i stay tuned !!
🤩 The TE-100 recreates this piece of German sound history with impeccable realism, right down to the buttons on the interface and the tube filter bypass.
Glad you like them!
@@andreirlmeierisn’t it great?!! What a sleeper piece of gear history
I was already having a blast with the SSL Native Comp on Sep Pettibone settings but now I need that X-Saturator
That and their vintage drive are typically making an appearance on every song I touch. That’s a great bundle. Thanks for watching 🎉
No worries about your level of coolness Mr. Carrell, it's all good !
And being ourselves is all that really matters :)
Haha. Thank you for watching!
Mind-blowingly good, Joe! I love the console strips even if I don't fully understand them. But I understand them quite a bit more after watching this. Thanks!
Glad it was useful!
That’s great news Mike! They have such great analog punch that I fully believe they WILL improve your mixes 🎉
Thanks@@InTheMixJoeCarrell
Thanks Joe! Great list, very helpful
Thank you for watching Tim!
Marvellous Tim
Awesome collection of plugins and insight to Joe's workflow!!
Thank you sir!!
YES! You Rock Eric!
What a great video, Joe! Really down to earth techniques with plenty of great insights into the process. Thank you and thanks Warren.
Thank you for watching!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The shape from the x Saturator reminds me of a Dbx160 in a parallel channel ,great sound
Thanks Joe, another excellent video. Privilege to watch someone who really knows what these things do...
Thanks Dave! Joe Rules!
Thank you Dave🎉
You Rock@@InTheMixJoeCarrell
I produce using a lot of drum breaks, sampled drum fills, with stomps, claps, and tambs. I'd love to see how Joe approaches treating that sound. I may just have to drive to Nashville and figure out.
Haha drive to him and ask him?
@@Producelikeapro if he'll have me lol.
Haha Joe?@@FromTheHipp
Maybe I should hear one of your pieces!!!!
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell I'd love to send you one!
Happy birthday Joe!! Another great video from the master
Cheers,
Morris
Thank you Morris!
Thanks for the video, Joe is such a great teacher! For drums (or anything else), I think Kush Audio makes some amazing plugins for creating vibe.
Thank you 🎉 have a great week
Thanks for stopping by!
Agree. I've been getting more and more into their plugins lately. My favorite for drums is the AR-1.
Kush Audio on everything.
Great plug ins and info. That snare sounds so 70's yacht rock. No cracking snare with damper off.."tonk tonk".. I guess that's what you like?
Always song dependent. Matching the snare to the song is a big deal to me. This one was being layered with loopy elements and hand claps. Worked great as a finished package. Thanks for watching Norman.
Joe, thank you so much for your time on these techniques. Your expertise and years of experience really shine. This has been so helpful to me :)
Thank you Rick. Glad you enjoy them ✌🏼
Glad it was helpful!
@InTheMixJoeCarrell - Great video Joe!!! I love how you demonstrated the drum processing you use. The drums really sound good. Everyone knows that a great drum sound starts from recording great sounding drums with great mics and great mic preamps. You really didn't say anything in the video about how the drums were recorded and I'd really like to know, assuming you remember, what you did when recording these drums? Did you EQ or compress on the way in? I'm a drummer for many more years than I want to admit and want to get the best recorded sound I can!!! I'm guessing that recording process could be a whole video itself. Thanks for what you do for PLAP and looking forward to future videos!!! Bless you Joe and hope you had a great B-Day!!! 😎🎶
Thank you Tom!! It was quite a few years ago but likely some eq on the kick and toms. Also probably a little top on the snare. Lite compression on the snare top and bottom, kick, and heavier on the rooms. That was likely all.
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Thanks Joe, that helps. I know from watching other videos of engineers and they tend to do some EQ and compression on the way in which is something I haven't been doing. Time for more experimenting to get the sound I'm hearing in my head and get that sound into my mixes. Thanks!!!
Happy Birthday Joe!!
Happy Birthday Joe!
Thank you!! 🎉🎉🎉
@@Producelikeaprothank you Warren!🎉
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Another Virgo hey? Happy Birthday. Mine Wednesday. Are you a typical Attention To Detail?
Happy Birthday JOE!!! :)
Best thing I ever did when it comes to mixing, buying a few ssl plugs...
Love all of the Lindell Audio plugins! Any comments on the SPL Passeq?
I use the Lindell 50, 69, 80 and completely agree. Great stuff. I really like their 2254 compressor as well. I haven’t yet tried that SPL EQ.
Great intro dude! Gave me a good laugh, indeed 😆
Hahaha. Thanks for watching Jay 🎉
Ha! Glad you enjoyed
If staying in the box, for drums I usually reach for API channel strips and bus them down to the API master bus both by brainworks or the 1176 by UAD. The SSL Bus Compressor Native lives on my master bus until I purchase the hardware 😅. I have the SSL Native Channel strip and will have to give it a spin on drums. I have yet to wrap my head around the shadow hills. I have it, but got lost as it is not laid out intuitively. Luckily it was free because of my coupons with Brainworks.
Some good choices there! On the shadow hills, try mentally breaking it down into an LA2a on top, an SSL buss compressor in the middle, and a few transformer output options on the bottom. It’s worth wading through the cluster of knobs 😂 Best wishes and thanks for watching
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Aye thanks a lot I really appreciate it! This video was very helpful as I took some notes... Regarding the Shadow Hills ahhhhh now that makes sense to me. Thank you so much for breaking it down in those terms. Now that is something I can understand and will get in there and start turning some dials 😊
always see Joe in plugin alliance channel!Great video!
Thank you for watching!
Love the marvelous video here Joe! I like the details you go through with this one also! Thanks for posting 🙌🌟🌟
Thanks ever so much Doug!
Thank you Doug!
Thanks@@InTheMixJoeCarrell You Rock!
Thanks Joe. Great vid...
Thank you Mike
Nice video, I'm a big fan of multiple drum busses.
Great Video Thank You So Much.I would love to Hear Joe's thoughts on Paul Thirds opinion regarding the Kit Plugins.... Paul was not too kind to say the least. Sounded great to me with what Joe was doing with the BB73
I’m unfamiliar with the video you mention, but I’ve definitely been enjoying what I can only describe as a realistic “analog” sound from them. Especially the 73 and A5 (API). Seems to hit a new level of analog punch from software. But UA and Plug-in Alliance also version of both that I like too. So by all means, use whichever you have. Thank you for watching Mark!
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Thank You Joe.
Plus 10db/HoserXT by BOZ Digital Labs.
Great tools that live on my drum and mix bus. Bendeth is the man!
Thanks ever so much!
Yes, David Rules!
This was fire! 😀🔥 More of this would be highly appreciated 👌🏻👌🏻
Question; does the “humming tale” on the snare not bother you? Like, it will not be audible in the mix?
Thank you! More is on the way 🎉 The resonance would really be song dependent. On this song on I remember well that we were playing along to some loop bits with a variety of backbeat elements. So everyone felt like we needed that rain for a sense of aggression and also separation. In the mix, it actually worked great. I’m pretty big on snare drum tuning matching this song. Check it out, Caleb Lovely “Smile”. Thanks again
I guess the song didn't change key. That could get quite unpleasant otherwise. Since I never write a song that doesn't change key, I couldn't ever leave a snare humming like this. Drum tuning is fairly irrelevant for me because I use so many non-diatonic chords.
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell I just went to listen to the song, and it's tight. There is no resonant tail and I'm purposefully listening for it. Are you certain you kept it? Cheers.
I'm glad someone else called it out; couldn't stop hearing it and it would've been something I sorted up front, personally.
Super cool! I must be doing something right, cause I felt like I was watching Joe describe my drum workflow almost exactly! Question: Why do many mixers put their SD sample track as a separate track? I use my Trigger plugin on the SD track and use/automate the mix knob in Trigger. In the past, when I have made my trigger a separate track, I had to group it to the SD track for volume adjust, seems like more hassle?
I personally always want mine printed as a separate track. It will live with the project forever and never be tied to a sample that isn’t part of that session. Plus, typically I will EQ it or compress it or send it to parallel treatments differently than I do the primary drum.
PLAP'ers - almost all videos really revolve around rock music. Any chance Joe or others would do a look at plugins in other genres? Like a Jazz kit or other popular music? I know the tips translate but many videos sound like how to beef things up for rock recordings.
Thank you for watching John! Not a bad idea on the jazz drums 👊🏼👊🏼
Happy to do more! Although we’ve done quite a few Jazz things, are you fairly new the channel? There’s another Jazz video coming shortly for instance
this guy knows his way around anything - that's what it means to know gear.
Thank you for watching!!🎉
Yes, he does!
Thank you for watching!
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell my pleasure
That's the best Warren impression ever! Nice video
Another great video from Joe!
Thank you Eddie!
Man, that hi hat playing was awesome.
Great video man!!
Glad you liked it!
Thank you Fred!!🎉
@@InTheMixJoeCarrelldont worry, your almost as cool as Warren 😂
So many options to use indeed! Always love to see the various means of getting various outcomes, there truly is a sense of creativeness to it all!
🎉🎉🎉🎉 thanks for watching!
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Cheers!
Great stuff!
Thanks!!@@RC32Smiths01
You Rock!@@InTheMixJoeCarrell
This is amazing. Thank you!
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Very nice! Also nice sounding samples in the end, are they commercial or private ones?
You can buy his sample pack
Great stuff -- you da man Joe - thanks!
Thank you Billy!
Good Job
Thank you!
The kit plugins neve looks nice, they also have a new API. They are a very shady company though- and though I purchased the earlier neve eq they made (which is very good) I cant bring myself to buy more of their products. Great tips, lovely video. Loving your drum pack!
Thank you!! Have a great week
Especially because each time they boost their value. BB $99 n73 $150 API $200.
So the API is double the value of the BB that put them on the map?! No… it just makes it so subscribing to a handful of plugins seems more viable when the time comes.
@@jorykevinberger7047 correct. Also, the whole conundrum with the BB EQ they “modeled”. Paul Third (correctly) roasted them on that. Literally a straight-up 20 year old textbook EQ algorithm with a fancy GUI. They even did a shootout with a real unit and LPFed the source at like 10kHz or something the hide the horrible cramping (I may have the exact specifics wrong, but you can check out the Paul Third videos for exact details).
That was a great video! Although I must say that I got very distracted by the ringing of the snare when compressed. Maybe it's a tom ringing with the snare hits, but that tone got very distracting.
Thank you for watching 👊🏼
Amazing video! Thanks so much. I do have a question.. I see that the drums and parallel comp are being sent to your "Buss DnB." Would that be for just the drums here? Or would you also send bass (bass guitar, bass synths) through that as well? Have seen that before and would just love to know. Thanks again!
Great question! The bass does indeed get sent to this subgroup with the drums and percussion. So it’s all moving together with the compressor
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell Thanks for answering! Will definitely try this on future mixes!
Can I give a 2 Tumbs Up ... Thanks Joe, Great suff
Awesome vid!!!
Thanks ever so much
Thank you John!!!
Great ep Joe
Thank you Rick👊🏼👊🏼✌🏼✌🏼
Those snare samples that are loaded into trigger sound great. Are those Joe's personal samples or commercial samples?
Thank you! Those are mine BUT they are available at Drum Sample Shop 🎉
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell great. Thanks for the reply Joe. Appreciate it. Cheers.
Absolutely amazing video! Thank you for this.
Thank you for watching!
I like this guy. Great stuffs 💯
Thank you Joel!
Thanks Joel!
im curious where the samples you use in trigger come from...or are they samples you made sir ??
Like that shirt - do they do one without a chest pocket?
Haha. I have no idea. But thank you and thank you for watching 👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
I love how Joe sounds like Ted Lasso
I don’t know who that is but I hope he has a nice voice. 😂 thank you for watching Michael
It's a good tv show.
Thank you by the way, I learned something
again.. valuable content! awesome!
Great as always Joe!🤘
Thank you friend. Have a good week 🎉
SSL all the way, just works every time.
Slate FG-X has the transient-pop-out-knob
It sure does. I like using that plug-in as the last buss limiter on the master when sending out for client approval. It’s a good one.
Love you Joe!
Thank you Rich! Very appreciated. Love you and the PLAP family as well. Such a great community Warren has assembled.
How about all the hardware in the background , is that for tracking or do you use some in a hybrid mixing setup?
Was that low ringing driving anyone else crazy? I could tell the overall drum tone was improving, but all I could focus on was that G3 ringing out. I'm sure that's something that could be notched out, so I wish it had been for the purposes of this demo even if it sounded fine in the context of a song.
Been saying for ages the SSL X-saturator is the best saturation plugin around , maybe now people will believe me
It’s a monster!!!! Thanks for watching Clinton.
where is that ringing (open G) coming from when you play the track?
The snare drum, I think. It was driving me crazy. It's okay for drums to have a distinct note, but that was way too loud. I would have notched some of it out.
Been working through this video today on my drums…. The neve on my snare in particular is a revelation! Can anyone suggest an alternative to the Lindell on the drum bus? I can’t buy any more plug ins!!!
It's a lot easier to.mix when the recording is eqd and compressed on the recording for sure
I thought the fastest attack on an 1176 was 7? I seem to remember it being counter-intuitive isn't it? I think the 1176 is fairly unique in this regard. Is it different on the BF76?
You're right. Joe made an earlier comment correcting what he said before the video was released :)
You’re absolutely right. I also have a knack for saying hi pass or Lo pass backwards. Stay tuned for more speaking errors 😂😂😂 thank you for watching!!
marvelous
Thanks ever so much
Thank you for watching!
Great tips. I wish sample replacement would stop. Its like in modern stop motion when they use vfx to smooth out the artifacts. Imo.
Joe, how many times per week do you exercise at home or at gym??? Amazingly looking sound engineer is a key to gain attention to our inudstry. Usually when it comes up to “sound engineer” it’s not greatly lookin guys… (i’m not gay and not hitting on you) just complimenting.
Haha. Thank you sir. It always differs depending on my workload, but I definitely like to get in there a couple times a week. It’s key to my mental focus to handle the long days and workloads. Honestly think it’s just as good, if not better, for my brain than it is anything.
There's a snare resonance (it's the snare right?) that never got addressed. Are we just to assume that that got taken care of eventually? It stayed there through the entire video.
Anyone else hearing a ring of about 190hz in some of those drum tracks? Seems like the parallel comp is really bringing it out.
Great video :-)
Glad you enjoyed it
Thank you sir !
🙌🏼 SSL 😍
Marvellous!
L-O-V-E SSL 🔥🔥
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27:50 He's saying about fast attack and slow release, but on the 76 it's exactly the opposite. Am I missing smth?
great, but I wish you'd notched out a lil' bit of that 200 ring on the snare.. got reeeally annoying. ;D
I find that sometimes, after dialling in a great setting in the moment, if I reopen the session next day etc even though it's the same setting i.e. gating settings , it reacts differently ,, which is making me think I should capture each sound as I go but that could be a massive pain in the ass. I was using nuendo and the ssl channel strip 2 plug UC1. Im thinking maybe it could be the daw. For sure the other day I was on some percussion and had dialled in amazing gate sound but reopened the session and it was 'spitting' not how it was on the original day; I believe that its important to 'capture' the magic, on time based stuff, like gated percussions, and, the first vocal reverb automated ride and delay etc. But even though that is my observation, Im not going to lol because that would be a pain in the ass! I might however at the end of a long mixing session bounce down all files though because I SWEAR TO YOU it sound different the next day lol.
great video Joe :)
Joe (and warren),, that was amazingly insightful. Great!
Joe man, those plugins sound amazing!!! That api kit plug after the ssl is amazing! - thanks
Thank you for watching Chris. Have a great week 🎉
Please where i can get tjat samples for trigger 2?
Those few examples you heard are from Drum Sample Shop. That’s actually my own signature sample pack. Thank you for watching!
really great
😹😹😹😹 i love joe
Thank you!!
I stopped using the SSL plugins. To my ears it felt like they were simulating the “SSL punch” by maybe using transient shaping? I have zero evidence of this, I want to be careful to say - but - what is an EQ doing giving punch to a sound??? I want an EQ, not more attack every time I use a plug. As always, YMMV. Thanks for the great video!
Thank you James. When I say analog “punch” I’m more referring to when adding high mid frequency or boosting substantially through the eq (and it’s active electronic circuitry) it hits harder after processing. A very different thing than a digital signal boost without hitting either a real or virtual analog circuit. It’s very hard to put into words, but API and SSL are two of the very best for this. Which is why they became THE sound of modern aggressive music whereas other circuits and digital software can sound “polite” or soft. Which is also valuable. Again very hard to put into words. But I use various tools to shape the end result. Am I trying to push the listener back in their chair with power? Am I Trying to pull them towards the speakers with warm round edges? It’s a huge part of the craft to me
Now the question becomes is it the plugins per se or the awesome EQ moves that Warren and others of his calibre have taught as I suspect the final product would sound almost as good on stock plugins although I would rather stub my toe than stay with stock lololol