Scott Frankfurt Studio Tour - Warren Huart: Produce Like A Pro
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- Warren walks through Scott Frankfurt's studio and checks out how he uses all of his fantastic gear.
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Hi Friends, there are many hidden musical gems in Los Angeles, amazing studios and amazing people! One of these is Scott Frankfurt and his personal studio. It’s a purpose built studio in his house that rivals any major studio, he has wonderful equipment and utilises all of the space available!
Scott is a talented musician/arranger/producer and engineer who has made a career working with artists Sergio Mendez, Whitney Huston and many more!
Please comment, like and share! I was extremely impressed with Scott’s setup and I hope you enjoy watching the video as much as I enjoyed making it!
Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
What a wonderful studio Scott has !!
Aw shucks thanks very much Darlene for all of your support!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Oh, WOW!!!!!! Someone else remembers the old EPROM blowers :) Warren, the only thing I can say is you have found THE POCKET on these interviews! 6:47 in and my grim is ear to ear. Scott is the type of person you would want to spend a few days locked in a studio with! Great guy. Back to the show :)
Hi Robert. I agree! His easy going manner and the fact he is an extremely talented musician mean I would love to do a solo record with him! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
What a cool space and a friendly cat to interview. Have watched several of these and actually most of the guys seem very personable.
robin miller thanks!!
WOW. WOW. WOW. Amazing. During the interview, I thought "oh, what a lovely guy, this is great!" And then it was "that's a fascinating conversation and a rare look into the world of professional sampling, this can't get any better than that..." And then there was the studio... It's ridiculous how awesome this place is. I am impressed and inspired for a year, and that came from the most humble guy... Really, thanks Scott and Warren. This is really special.
So appreciated!
Brilliant interview and studio tour. Looks like a great place! And Scott comes across as the most likeable guy, great stories and explaining everything very well. Loved it, one of my favorite studio tours so far! Keep up the good work Warren :) Love your content!
Thanks very much DJ Kicksled! Yes, Scott is a great guy! I had a blast hanging with him! I'm glad you enjoyed the video! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I have never thought of recording music. I don't know how to play any instruments. I can't stop watching these videos! This entire over hour long video about something I know absolutely nothing about has kept me entranced and entertained for the entire duration :D Thank you for these videos!
Great interview Warren. He seems so eager to help and share what he knows. THAT's what this business is about. So nice to see such an accomplished producer who's so humble
Thank you AnthonyPudduMusic. Your comment means a lot! :) There is so much to learn - everyday and I'm glad for those who were/are generous with me!
I liked watching this much. We engineers are so detailed with a language not understood by most outside a particular expertise. Thanks
You are the maestro!
Amazing gospel coming from two amazingly gifted producers of every genre imaginable! Loved this; the progressive interaction between the two guys coming from two different intertwined worlds, feeding off of each other. Brilliant! One thing I would loved to have seen is Scott, with his keyboard virtuosity, play on the B3 with the Leslie.. Would have been the icing on the cake! Maybe in an addition or another installment. Great work Warren! Thank you both for the inspiration!
Steve
This might be my favorite studio tour of all time! Love that facility. Scott seems like a good dude, too. Thanks, Warren, for bringing us to these great facilities and introducing us to some fantastic people!
Hi Calvin, that's so good to hear! Agreed Scott is so humble and took a lot of time to show us around! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Dang it if Scott isn't the most genuine affable chap I've seen in a long time. He brilliantly knows his stuff, is well spoken, and there's something about him that makes you feel like he'd be successful at whatever he did because of those talents.
Better said, "He has a good vibe!"
Really means a lot, thank you!!
I know that this comment is slightly after the expiration date. Yet, would you like to consider to schedule a live Q&A with Mr Scott Frankfurt about the Art and the Science about sampling, mapping, algorithms, etc.? Like the live Q&A that you did with Mr Rick Beato and Mr Matt McGlynn. A very nice video. Thank you very much!
Scott is just a wonderful human being. His love for what he does and the artists he works with is obvious. A great interview.
Warren you are a great interviewer. Think you bring out the best in your question, which ultimately benefits us viewers
I think this is probably my favorite episode of yours so far! Scott certainly seems like a great, talented guy, and his studio is amazing. (And you did a great job, too!)
Aw shucks Jet thanks very much! Yes, agreed, Scott is a great guy and I learned so much from this Tour! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
It's like the dream home studio set up. What a nice dude as well.
I agree! Great guy and great studio set up! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Wow, what a great guy! Talented and humble. Wonderful interview.
Yes, I agree, Scott is extremely humble!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
one of my faves to date Warren.. what a fantastic facility.. so many awesome Bells and whistles..
Hi Jerry, aw shucks thanks very much! Really glad you enjoyed the video! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
As a keys guy this might be my favorite studio from your studio tours. Thanks alot as ever, Warren!
i love how this channel turned from studio advice to plane conversations
( oh yeah p 38 that's a great plane )
Got to love the P38!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Fabulous guy and amazing studio!
I agree 100%!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I was watching and all of a sudden it was the end, lol,,, "The music between the notes" so many interesting things through out the conversation and that is just one of them,,, and a good one to remember...
I appreciate your time a lot,,, Thanks you guys
Wow...this guy knows a thing or two about sound and recording !....and what a delight and joy to be around.
Thank you both for sharing this :)
Just watched this again. Great video. So much info. Pity I can't like it twice!
Thanks Terry! Thanks you ever so much! I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous New Year!
Omnisphere is an amazing synth and sound design tool. I use it on almost every session/track I write or produce. I love these inside videos!
Ok, that was just THE BEST studio tour I’ve seen in ages! Insights to burn from both of you guys, generosity of spirit everywhere, just fantastic! Thank you thank you. 👍
Thank you Steve!
The MCI JH16 took me way back. It was the first large format machine I engineered on back in the late 70's .. Thanks Warren for another great video..
Hi CarlosGunX, agreed! So great to see that machine! Truly wonderful! That's amazing you were using them back in the 70's! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Having watched this, I feel better about the handful of pedals and cables I leave around on the floor. That's my kind of pad. Great interview.
Hi Bruce, agreed! We all do it!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Wow. What a great studio tour and lots of great insight too. Plenty of stuff to aspire to doing/being and a lovely down to earth way of explaining how to get there. Thanks to you both.
Awesome video. Such a cool studio and lots of valuable info in here. Keep up the good work both of you!
OC Strings means so much! 👍
Warren, who are these people that dislikes that much information. We can learn new approaches and methods about recording and mixing thanks to you, Have a marvellous time recording and mixing Warren god bless you
Hi MEHMET YILDIRIM, thank you ever so much for your kind words! I really appreciate it! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Great guy, great room
Warren, this was great. So many people are trying to do studio tours but I really like how you do it. And the studios you find are great.
Thanks for sharing and see you next time. 😁
Drummer, Music retail and an 4710-d, i love this guy! Great vid warren!
Such a cool studio! Love the sweet little gadgets he's got like the Piano Bar and the Big Fat Snare!
Thanks Eric! I really appreciate your kind words!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Best guy, best studio, wow, I enjoyed this interview. As always Warren, thank you.
Hi James, agreed! Scott is a great guy!
Agree. This guy rules. So positive and interesting
Wow, Warren! This could quite possibly be the most interesting and best studio tour and interview I've seen from you. What a great space to record music! I also loved the analogy of the DT100s sounding like NS-10s strapped to your head. Great content as always!
Amazing.what a background to have.I love the fact he only has a few good pre's and compressor/limiters that work well in a variety of situations.And also how he kind of emphasized the importance of the power supply affects.Very straight to the point recording,putting the emphasis on the musicians and the music.Plus he just seemed like a pretty cool guy.Excellent episode,thanks Warren.
Hi Brian, I agree! Having a choice amount of equipment and knowing what to use and when is completely invaluable! He is a really cool guy, extremely humble and talented! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Your videos are very entertaining and informative. I am 19 years old, I have recently entered Full Sail University to study Music Production, and your videos have taught me many things that are very useful, specially ProTools tricks that I did not know. It is very interesting to see all the things that are involved into making a song, and listening to the advice of people that have been in the industry for a long time is always good.
Keep up the good work.
Hi Luis, so glad to be able to help! Best of luck with all your studies! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
cool. cool. cool. thanx again for another great video...
Such a nice humble guy!
Beatledave7 means a lot! Thank you!!
I at first watched this video and inevitably thought that scott had a smallish studio and it was quite nice , Due to the some of the other studios and personalities around I thought 'this was average' Boy was I wrong. Beautiful rooms and great attitude. Definitely someone ill be looking out for!
Thanks for your great comment Aaron! Yes amazing studio, incredible what you can do with a lot of imagination and work ethic! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Great Tour Warren! And Scott seems like a genuinely warm and personable guy. I'd love to know about the nuts and bolts of spreading your home studio out into the rest of the house. Crawl spaces, attics etc. I know it's not the most glamorous stuff but I like to hear about some of the challenges that people like Scott faced in putting a Studio in a living space.
Thanks for another great interview Warren.
Just what I needed to get my day going, Thank you Warren and Scott!
Hi Louis, great stuff! So glad to be able to help! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
haha I was up 5:45 am NY time ! watching this awesome interview and tour. one of my favorite video! thank you Warren .
That's so great to hear Allan! Eek 5.45am!! Yowsa! Thanks for watching I hope you get some rest! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Another great studio tour! I love the small practical enhancements that really make a studio easier to use. Cool to see the Lexicon outboard & that Piano Bar! This video has cured my hangover, so cheers guys! :)
Excellent video and the time just flew by watching the entire thing. Thoroughly enjoyed this.
Hi Jon, thanks very much for your kind words! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
hey warren loving this interview .. Back in my heyday's single & a Swimming teacher I had a gr8 relationship with the owner of the biggest music shop in Edinburgh . He brought me out the precursor to the Dx7 to try out for a week see what I thought & on my advice said it needs to have presets & a year later I bought the first Dx7 in scotland .. I had studios calling me offering studio time in exchange for a loan of it .. such memories .. but it's 4am again & you may not see this .. but yes I am learning so much .. big decision tho .. I am going mix & match .. I don't like being stuck if I can't get online so its still a steep curve learning but like scott says learn something new everyday .. cheers
Great interview.. Thanks!
Thanks very much Canga! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
i hear a 2-4khz tone floating in the background when you or scott talk in certain parts of the vid- not sure if its the vid or my monitors but i dont hear it in daw, itunes, other vids
Mat Melton
Yeah. There is some kind of feed back issue with Scotts mic. I just tried to watch this episode, not remembering why I hadn’t finished it last time. That high pitched whine is driving me nuts and I can’t stand it. Shame, it’s a very interesting interview!
I think everyone heard that. Doesn't bother me but glad you heard it too! :-)
+producelikeapro Geezus. I love Warren but that noise is absolutely dreadful and not “marvelous.” Bit ironic for a channel dedicated to recording! Come on man....
@@allenrassa2966 this isn’t recording demonstration... just a casual interview
Great stuff once again,thanx.
Thanks very much ingoodmusic! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Nice… I think I could be comfortable there, nice and cozy, but still plenty of options…. I’ve seen hundreds of studios and that place just stands out, great stuff, great space and great attitude… very cool…
Another ace video have a marvelous day Warren.
AW shucks thanks ever so much for the kind words! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Absolutely loved this interview and studio visit. So much great insight and wow what a cool expanded home/commercial space.
Thanks very much! Yes, I really enjoyed seeing Scott's setup!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
epic discussion - thanks Warren and Scott!!
Great great interview and tour! I especially enjoyed the quick look at the Mara MCI "Dream Machine".
Thanks donhearl! I really glad you enjoyed the episode! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
What a great guy. Learned a lot in this one, thanks as always Warren :)
This is great stuff. I'm not even a quarter of the way through and I'm already loving the fantastic insight here. Thanks a bunch! :)
Wow thanks very much bwm5150! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Very impressive.
What a nice guy. Great video again! Thx!
Hi Ozorg! Thanks very much! Yes, Scott is a great guy! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Just shows what you can do with a house , amazing and I liked the reference to Deep Purples Machine Head, one of my favourites,excellent choice again Warren! Thanks so much
Hi Matthew, thanks very much for your great comment! Yes, Machine Head is an amazing album!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
This was incredible! Thank you so much!
Scott seems like the nicest guy ever! I wish I could intern there!
Gear for days! wow
Much appreciated Chris!
Fantastic episode. Have a marvelous time Wazaa!
great stuff warren, keep it up. i look forward to these studio tours, you are such a knowledgable and positive interviewer. yesterday i picked up an older, used Lewitt LCT 540 for a steal ($299!!) based on your previous glowing reviews of their mics and I have to say it sounds fantastic. better than my old 414. thanks again my friend, have a marvelous time recording and mixing
Wouldn't mind you talking bit more about planes in your videos... It is my 'secret' passion as well. Cheers, Warren; you are doing awesome as always. Keep up the good work and your characteristic unselfish, positive and nice attitude.
I went back and watched this one again at random but it turned out to be very relevant because I am going to be recording a small brass band soon... in my one room studio :-0 Itwill be fun and it was great advice to make sure I have some general mics going in case something happens to the spot mics. Also ... great info as usual!
Sounds like a super cool guy... Thanks for sharing, Warren! Buzzing was kinda crazy though...
Hi Julian, thanks very much! Yes, Scott is a great guy and extremely talented! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Fantastic studio, today would be difficult to fall asleep :P
damn... now I need to find a piano bar.... great interview!
Haha great stuff Craig! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
wow - the first few times i saw this guy was when i was researching (and eventually purchasing) some spectrasonics products (online). i thought he was just some dude on the spectrasonics team (not to sound disparaging 'cause those spectrasonics guys are frickin GENIUS). always more than meets the eye, i guess
LOL! Thanks - much appreciated!
Excellent!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
Awesome show!...I live in PA and a big regret was not getting to tour the Ensoniq Factory before it closed....My first keyboard was a brand new Ensoniq VFX when I was in high school....I had a choice between that and the Korg M1...I must have listened to the demo's on both 100 times before deciding the Ensoniq had better sounds...Anyway there was cartridges that had the demo's for the VFX and the store owner let me keep one when I bought the keyboard....I don't remember the names exactly but it was something like Baroque, Cat's Meow, Bleached....I always wondered who wrote those demo's because the programming was phenomenal....Was it Scott who wrote them I wonder?....Thanks again for a great show!
Hi Ted, great question! It may have been Scott who did that! I also wish I had toured the Ensoniq Factory!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hi Ted. That factory was amazing! I enjoyed several visits. The VFX was my first project there. Indeed, "Bleached" demos etc was named after my pub co "Bleach Bros. Music" back in the day :) - WOW - memory lane!
I bet most people didn't realize atmos would be jammed down our throats.
No, I was hoping you'd play like, you know, the whole song... LOL.
This has to be my favorite of all the studio tours. I didn't know it at the time, but I became engrossed in Omnisphere years later, and came to appreciate the Phoenix DRS preamps. I'll probably come back to this in a year or two.
BTW, I'm like #667 and comment #200. -Jim
Awesome! Thanks so much!!!
Thank you. 🤓
Amazing
Thanks so much! :)
Great interview!
This brought back memories of my Ensoniq ASR-X table top sampler : best juicy phat sound I've ever got from a sampler! (But the sequencer was a nightmare to program).
OMG a shielded cable is required for the Monitor ST? I have to check my setup and make sure I didn't swap out the cable. So glad I watched this. I feel like there should be a tag on the cord to not change it to avoid malfunction. Thx!
Yes, if you are going to hot plug / switch locations like I do... definitely go shielded! :)
i know i really shouldn't say this, but actually i saw this guy in an episode of Keeping up with the Kardashians hahah he was recording them in that episode and i already thought back then, wow what a nice and chill studio. thanks for the tour! ( btw i was just bored and i normally don't watch the Kardashians! really! lol ) Peace
Hi Matt, that's perfectly ok to say! He IS a great guy and he is really talented! I'm not surprised they sought him out to work with them! Haha Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Awesome Matt! :) Thank you, and thank you Warren!
I hope they paid him up front and in full because working with them could ruin his career haha
Hi Warren. Great video, that studio and owner looks like they have a really relaxed vibe [ha, ha!]. I've just watched a video about De la Soul's new LP and they recorded it at somewhere called Electro-Vox in LA. It looked absolutely amazing if you're into vintage equipment and atmospheres. Never heard of it before, do you know anything about the place/owner?
I am such a n00b amateur. Scott is an oracle.
Hi David! Thanks ever so much
That means so much David! (LOL My favorite Matrix reference... "Here's a cookie..." LOL)
Warren you always do great interviews, and I don’t wanna be that guy, but I have to say one thing that stands out to me, that really shocked me throughout all of this, is that neither of you guys realized that you could use Digidesign 192’s with the current version of ProTools. I’m on HD Native on Protools Ultimate 2018 still using two 192 I/O’s!
When the guy you’re interviewing says the reason he has not upgraded his ad/da converters was due to cost constraints, I’m like, really? Considering what he/you have invested in gear, and you are questioning 4- 6 grand on converter’s?
Hi Barry, Sorry I didn't see this until now; So I started with Pro Deck and Pro Edit - before "Sound Tools"... and had been an early adopter to every OS shift, hardware shift, and software upgrade and it seemed like endless amounts of money every few years to modulate with the times. Before Digidesign/Avid opened up their policy for third party interfacing, Blue interfaces were not supported during one of the transitions (to HDX cards I believe) - even emails were sent warning users in advance of the changeover - crazy trade ins etc. as I recall. Anyway, at the time - wanting to roll with the times, I got quotes for swapping out my I/O system and it was in the 20k+ range for 4 new 192's which my interfacing requires. Nowadays, it's just a license - and with the right adapter cable it's a no brainer - but back then it was a big deal! :) Hope that helps. :)
What a Bad Ass! studio....You seem like a awesome mixing engineer....I wish it was possible to send you some of my recordings to mix but I know it would be wayyy! out of my budget.. Anyways thanks for the tour.
just a suggestion a book list ? .. I have heard you mention books to people & you both go what a gr8 book ..
Warren great show ...say when are coming to Texas to interview Rupert Neve?And Warm Audio
I learned so much from this video. I would need a Xanax to work on large projects produced in Scotts studio. Love the Grand Room but I would hate to dust it..lol
Rhett
Dusting... hahaha...Truth! :)
So how is he using pro tools 12 with the 192??? I want to use Pt 12!!
Great video:) it's the old Merlins in the spitfire isn't it?
Hi Warren amazing video like always! please please please tell me that you talk with Scott about how to make HDX cards work with 192!!! make a video or leave a reply here, i think a lot of people would appreciate that info, thanks!!!! and cheers from the far away land of Uruguay!
Hi Martin, I put this information in a reply down below... just scan the comments below for the David Diaz thread! Hope that helps!
simultaneous SLOPPY SLOSHY!!! epic
Hey Warren ! Thank you once again for a great video !
May you please name the book you mention at 1:32:00? My English are not very good so my search wasn't successful.
Cheers !
I believe it's Making Records: The Scenes Behind the Music
by Phil Ramone - I can't wait to read it myself.
Scott Frankfurt Studio Cheers mate !
you mentioned how some say your youtube video is distorted on their speakers. you didn't touch on how important "level along a chain " is. given they prob plugged their laptop to their amp. and didn't account that headphones take a hotter mix. and couldn't get their sound to not distort at any volume. cause they were clipping their on pre's :)
excellent video. thanks! I am also looking to use PT12 with the blue interface. Please if you have any more info on that, i would really appreciate a comment on that!
nikos arkomanis Thanks! Checkout my response to this in a comment below...
Hey Warren, thank you so much for the Lots of Inspiration! Could you tell me the Title of the book that you mention at 1:31?
Such a nice episode ! But there is this high noise during the gear walk around !
Hi Walt, thanks for watching, sorry about the noise! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hey Warren :) I'm right now at around 27min of the video where you talk about mixes that translate very well ... that is a problem i have ALWAYS ... i often think that the thing that has to translate on all speakers well is pink noise so i always try a slight eq match with pink noise in ozone 6 but ... yeah ... i'm always suprised ... today i listen to mix that sounded good on all my speakers (genelec 8050+7070, avatont mixcubes, 2 hifi speakers), my fav. headphones and in my car and it sounded horrible on the speakers of a friend today ... hmmm my problem is always subbass and the region between 150 and 350 hz ... if it lacks too much the mix looses warmth and if the subbass lacks volume it hasn't the sound i like (like gojiras bassdrum) ... do you have a tipp how i find a middleway ? ... oh btw. i have a recording that translates everywhere great :) it is amazing how well it sound on all devices :) check Christian Alsing - The Last Robot :)
Warren, I'm an AV dealer as well and would be happy to set you up with a sweet deal on a new turntable.
Hybrid house is so awesome. What is the title of the book you are talking about towards the end please?
Hi Musa, oh wow, I will have to go back and look/listen to what I said! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
I believe it's Making Records: The Scenes Behind the Music
by Phil Ramone - I can't wait to read it myself.
+Scott Frankfurt Studio thanks, love the studio
Thank you, Musa. :)
great stuff, as always!! So!!!! how did he make the old 192's work with PT HD 12?? you gonna tell us?? I am running PT HD 11 on an HDX card just like him..
Hi David! Wow thanks for reminding me!! I have to ask him!! Have a marvellous time recording and mixing, many thanks Warren
Hi David, in my case (PLEASE research your own situation and evaluate the risks carefully) my upgrade context (40x48 i/o + patchbay investment, sw, hw etc) - and the mismatch configuration forced me to look at radical ways to get to PT12.x - and I even considered network based i/o (like Waves) but the latency did not compare to what I already had. So - I had HD5 on Magma chassis; "5,1" Westemere Mac Pro. I removed my Magma Chassis, all the cards, and the host card. Purchased a new HDX card, installed in computer and did the upgrade to 12.x (I have a perpetual license.) The rest of the solution was surprisingly simple - since I have 3 interfaces on two Digilinks, I simply purchased two Digilink->Mini Digilink adapters (around $70 each at the time). It works like a charm. HOWEVER IT IS UNSUPPORTED by AVID. THIS IS AT YOUR OWN RISK. A day may come where this will no longer work correctly, but it has extended my investment and is rock solid for our workflow. SOME TIPS if you try this. 2. Read everything you can at Avid about co-install 10/11/12 issues and make sure your rig qualifies... mine did so I progressed. 3. CLONE YOUR HARD DRIVE, ( I used CCC) and have a retreat plan if it doesn't work for your particular setup. 4: I've never *manually* installed the Avid Drivers. They may in fact be installed, but I read somewhere not to do that. I can't emphasize how happy I was when it worked. The card was expensive, the adapters relatively cheap - but the alternative in my case (including Patchbay revisions etc) would have put my upgrade over 30K easy. So 5-6K was hard to swallow but has REVOLUTIONIZED my day to day workflow, because even though there are bugs, version 12 offers game changing features for me. Hope that's helpful!
Scott, you are most kind!! Thank you so much for taking the time to explain in detail and respond to my comments. You have my most humble respect and admiration. All the best!