@@jmak40gang yes of course we can do whatever we want because it doesn´t matter how we fly only matter how we get fun with it. My opinion was just it, an opinion.
Stellar work indeed! The smooth tone, crystal clear instructions, tips and video editing make me want to have these directly included in DCS menus. Thanks a zillion for your work RedKite!
Come on bro that's cold, both are so much contributing for the community. I can never sacrifice either of them, just imagine what we can make together.
@@mohamedabdalnaem9776 exactly. Wag's videos are just demonstrating new features ED has added to their modules. Those videos are not intended as in-depth tutorials.
Thank you for not going through this at a million words a second... Almost every other DCS "tutorial" on youtube has the video creator trying to get everything out in 3 seconds with the excuse that "you can just pause or rewind" to justify them all ingesting large quantities of cocaine before making their videos.
That's very kind of you! In all honesty it was never meant to last this long. I've been meaning to replace it for a while now. That's not to say the general design will go, but rather i want to make it higher quality, add some shading and such to it and improve the channel's branding in general.
@@RedKiteRender well can't wait to see it, it already looks like a GI Joe coalition flag. Also can you make it available as a skin like on the F/A 18 vertical stabilizer!
Your manner of Flight Instruction is among the best I have received in R/L and Sim's. You teach procedure and add directly applicable reasons - why what you teach - is what you teach. Thank you for all.
The Fix to the transfer complete bug has been released! This means you should be able to refuel on any map, hot, cold or airstart without any issues now! The Practice mission: www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306414/
I had no problems on Nevada. Just FYI. I dont think I did anything special. Just set my fuel to 50% and setup a simple refueling mission for myself. Thanks for another great tutorial. Even experienced people can learn from your videos. I thought it a good idea to repeat the DED on the hud. Thanks Red!
BEST tutorial on the matter I have found on youtube - calm, methodical, teaching procedures but also giving practical advice. Thanks for this! awesome work.
Gotta say the great amount of professionalism in this video really helps sell the corny jokes you make way better. Really got a chuckle out of me a couple of times. Subbed.
@@ryz_vik I've done it at less than that in pancake back in the day when DCS ran like $#!t on ATi cards and AMD CPUs, when the A-10C was their top module... but yeah, it does make it harder, definately.
Thanks Mr Kite. Nothing like diving in the deep end first! "Bouts of Rage" ... err we've all been there (256 tankers were harmed in the making of this video). So, one F-16 tutorial down and about another 15 required urgently! Hope sleep, work and food are not things for you? Great job as always!
I'm sliding in your comments to let you know that you make the best and most straightforward DCS tutorials. No drawn out intros, no unnecessary tangents. I need to know how to operate the radio, bam! How do I approach the tanker in a Viper? Oh, ok, makes sense! Many thanks!
I chased the tanker yesterday trying to catch up, ended up overshooting it many times. Never ended up tanking, had to RTB because of bingo fuel status. In defense, I got a new throttle and stick system, so trying to learn that as well. Great videos though. Very clear and easy to understand. Thank you!!
Speed control is my issue. I got the gain adjusted for the stick and rudders so I don't over correct. Speed control varies with environments. And turbulence. To me, this evolution is more difficult than a carrier landing. Well made video. Liked and subbed
All about keeping on top of the engine lag, and working predictively! Give it a quick bump in the right direction return to 'neutral' before you see a result, observe and repeat.
Great tutorial RedKite as always, funny and full of nice tips and tricks (that most of us didn't think of, I guarantee) to make a "simple" refueling turn into something a bit easier to do. Thank you so much, can't wait for the next ones!!!
Videoes like this is why i subscribed and got a membership for your channel. You have a very clear and calm voice, that is easy to understand and follow. Thank you.
It's one of those critical skills not practiced, which makes AAR so difficult. In real life, you won't go to a tanker until you're proficient in formation flying, which is a rarely used skill in DCS, unless you're getting into organised or group play online.
I highly appreciate that video u made it helped me understand the basics and concepts of A-A Refuealing I get stress out along because the aircraft won't stay stable
FYI changing between TACAN MODES X and Y is no longer done just by pushing the MODE SELECT button. You will get zero's now. Just put one "0" in and then hit ENTER and it will change. So a little different than what the video states (was patched and changed the process)
As always super tutorial, love listening to your voice, calm and easy for me to follow as a non English speaker. Keep it up! Thx for the mission aswell
Excellent instructions and information, not like another gamer that pretends like it's so easy, practice and patience is the key, No rudder and trim is essential. Good video
RedKite - you have such a soothing voice and approach to these videos. Are you an instructor IRL? Anyway, I need to have you alongside when practicing so I can remain calm and hook up. 🤣 Thanks for positing this!
Excellent tutorial. It answers alot of questions. I have only just started to fly the F-16 Viper in DCS, so I have some way to go before trying this. When I do, this will help alot. Thank you!
Thanks for providing a working mission (which I have yet to test). Really itching to try refueling her again. Never had any issues with it in BMS and I suppose you know the tankers there fly tighter turns. Good times. Nice to be flying her again.
@@RedKiteRender BMS tankers couldn't shake me or any of my wingmen ;) We had such a great "casual hardcore" community going back in the days :) And your training mission worked perfectly for me in SP
@@RedKiteRender AAR currently only works before you've pressed the NWS button once. Pressing it will trigger the AR Disconnect and somewhere deep in the code that state sticks, causing the instant disconnects. I'm ready for a patch today :)
This felt like learning aar all over again, took me a couple frustrating hours to do it successfully. I honestly find the tomcat 10x easier to refuel, the boom is a pain in the ass haha
All comes down to what you're already practiced with, and unlearning techniques that dont cross over. I personally prefer the boom, as it transfers fuel faster!
1:22 Just as a note you don't have to use the DCS switch to select the right entry. You can just type 1 4 into the scratchpad and it'll work out that it's a TACAN channel and set it. 2:45 Similarly you don't have to modify a preset you can just type the frequency you want into the scratchpad and it'll set the radio to that frequency. You also don't have to enter 2 5 1 0 0 using 2 5 1 works just fine
In fact it should be impossible to access those fields with DCS, only command steering (for mode selection) scratchpad and azimuth should be accessible. Band should be only changeable by entering 0 into scratchpad. The fact that they can be accessed directly bypassing the scratchpad is either a bug or omission.
Actually... Passed out listening to ya mate. And after I just refueled off a tanker in my 16. Going from Russian refueling where the boom is on the left of the nose, to the American 14 on the right of the nose then the 15 back on the left and now the 16 behind me.
The most important part of AAR is the attitude. You gotta go in there relaxed, not white knuckle. After all you just gonna fly straight and level for a while. Make it boring. Play musak in your head. "Girl from Ipanema" elevator music does it for me. For those that don't know the tune, it's the elevator music from the Blues Brothers.
ALT HOLD or any form of autopilot is a bad idea, it'll mess with your inputs, and then disengage when you try to push through it to adjust, resulting in you potentially pitching quite hard and suddenly. Once you're in formation, keep it manual.
Can you explain a bit how you trim correctly? Can"t seem to get her trimmed correctly with a tpod or assymetric load on my aircraft. If i trim i always bank to much to 1 side or the other.
It's the same as every other aircraft, just gently tap the trim repeatedly to correct any un-commanded roll/pitch. If you can't get it quite right, get it close enough that the drift is slow and manageable. You can see the trim levels in the bottom left panels in the corner of the cockpit.
Redkite Thanks a lot for this tutorial. Aerial refueling is one of my favorite mission. Glad to have your very detailed tutorial as a guide. Which would you say is more difficult, drogue basket or the boom method?
I think the Boom is my favourite, Faster fuel transfer, director lights and no basket to chase after. But, the Basket is more forgiving once you're connected and is probably the safer option as you're not flying under another aircraft.
Thanks for your insight. I have nailed the basket method to perfection on a straight flying tanker in the Hornet. Never successful with the boom method. I will be looking forward to the new challenge.
I love the boom! (A-10c aside, as it's a little odd doing nose boom) Boom lets you concentrate on the flying without the distraction of catching the basket.
"Avoid prolonged sessions" - yes. I found practicing every or most days best, but only for about 10 minutes, and once I started getting murderous I stopped. After about a week I was there, although doing it in a turn with turbulence took longer.
I noticed a bug with the TACAN if plug in TACAN 14Y AA T/R, i can only get direction to the tanker. But if go with 14X AA T/R it works as it suppose to. I have double checked the redkite mission in the editor and its 14Y!
Tacan logic was changed a while back with the introduction of Datalink on the hornet, I'm not totally sure what's happening, Y is usually only operated by airborne stations and X for ground based. I don't think they should be broadcasting on both bands. It's not uncommon for airborne tacan to only give range information as they have smaller transmitters than ground stations.
@@RedKiteRender My experience with Y tacans is they'll display their location but not distance so I'd have to lock whatever it is up (tanker) for more information.
"Burst of anger during refueling...." Ya, that definitely describes my refueling experience. LMAO
The amount of times I've wanted to shoot down the recovery tanker when he goes off station and leaves me with 1,000 pounds of fuel.
I believe that there is no DCS player on the face of the earth that did not took at least one angry shot at the tanker at some point :D
@@trenkys9327 never. Don't see the point, really.
@@brunofagulha its a simulator so it doesnt matter if you shoot the tanker down in frustration and reset the whole thing
@@jmak40gang yes of course we can do whatever we want because it doesn´t matter how we fly only matter how we get fun with it. My opinion was just it, an opinion.
While everyone else is posting vids on start sequence and (rough) landings...our main man has the first aerial refueling video..
Great job again, Red!
Helps having a little Falcon BMS experience :)
Lol, technically I did but it’s not a tutorial
@@smoke_eater_ same, but was a rant lol
You should be paid by ED for doing their official tutorials. Better than wags. Thumbs up 👍
Stellar work indeed!
The smooth tone, crystal clear instructions, tips and video editing make me want to have these directly included in DCS menus.
Thanks a zillion for your work RedKite!
I have to agree too, awesome job!
Don’t you dare disrespect wags
Come on bro that's cold, both are so much contributing for the community.
I can never sacrifice either of them, just imagine what we can make together.
@@mohamedabdalnaem9776 exactly. Wag's videos are just demonstrating new features ED has added to their modules. Those videos are not intended as in-depth tutorials.
this dudes voice is so calming. ASMR second career option
Thank you for not going through this at a million words a second...
Almost every other DCS "tutorial" on youtube has the video creator trying to get everything out in 3 seconds with the excuse that "you can just pause or rewind" to justify them all ingesting large quantities of cocaine before making their videos.
As a newbie in the community I have to say I love your channel icon!
Please don't change it.
That's very kind of you!
In all honesty it was never meant to last this long. I've been meaning to replace it for a while now. That's not to say the general design will go, but rather i want to make it higher quality, add some shading and such to it and improve the channel's branding in general.
@@RedKiteRender well can't wait to see it, it already looks like a GI Joe coalition flag.
Also can you make it available as a skin like on the F/A 18 vertical stabilizer!
After barely being able to take 500 LBS, this tutorial got me to be able fully top off the tanks. Thank you!!
man you're like the Bob Ross of DCS, i love it.
Your manner of Flight Instruction is among the best I have received in R/L and Sim's. You teach procedure and add directly applicable reasons - why what you teach - is what you teach. Thank you for all.
"prone to bouts of anger". lol. thats a nice way to put it. another great video sir.
I knew it is going to be funny by looking at the thumbnail but I really lost it at 5:23 XD
Btw thank for the guide! We need more viper tutorials!
The Fix to the transfer complete bug has been released! This means you should be able to refuel on any map, hot, cold or airstart without any issues now!
The Practice mission: www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3306414/
Caucasus on MP doesnt work
I had no problems on Nevada. Just FYI. I dont think I did anything special. Just set my fuel to 50% and setup a simple refueling mission for myself. Thanks for another great tutorial. Even experienced people can learn from your videos. I thought it a good idea to repeat the DED on the hud. Thanks Red!
Worked for me at Nevada.
BEST tutorial on the matter I have found on youtube - calm, methodical, teaching procedures but also giving practical advice. Thanks for this! awesome work.
Yeah, I agree that dude covered much more nuances than other guys.
One of the best among all, you must do more tutorials just magnificent accent and your excellent English, it a joy to listening to you
Gotta say the great amount of professionalism in this video really helps sell the corny jokes you make way better. Really got a chuckle out of me a couple of times. Subbed.
Using VR really helps with depth perception, I went from almost unable to refuel to semi-competent just from switching to VR lol
Agreed. Helps with carrier landings as well.
Yep big help, just add a feeling of acceleration so we can sense when the drifting starts and it'l be so much easier!
VR = Easy Mode :)
Same goes for chopper flying, especially hovering...
@@CakePrincessCelestia Except for when you're playing at 20 fps :noo:
@@ryz_vik I've done it at less than that in pancake back in the day when DCS ran like $#!t on ATi cards and AMD CPUs, when the A-10C was their top module... but yeah, it does make it harder, definately.
When the voice is so calm you almost fall asleep. Nice vid tho
Thanks Mr Kite. Nothing like diving in the deep end first!
"Bouts of Rage" ... err we've all been there (256 tankers were harmed in the making of this video).
So, one F-16 tutorial down and about another 15 required urgently! Hope sleep, work and food are not things for you? Great job as always!
I'l be getting at least one of those 3 i hope.
Hands down THE best explanation for the process.
I'm sliding in your comments to let you know that you make the best and most straightforward DCS tutorials. No drawn out intros, no unnecessary tangents. I need to know how to operate the radio, bam! How do I approach the tanker in a Viper? Oh, ok, makes sense!
Many thanks!
Thanks! glad you enjoyed it.
I chased the tanker yesterday trying to catch up, ended up overshooting it many times. Never ended up tanking, had to RTB because of bingo fuel status. In defense, I got a new throttle and stick system, so trying to learn that as well. Great videos though. Very clear and easy to understand. Thank you!!
Me: *Takes one pound of fuel *
Tanker: “Transfer complete”
Welcome to EA! Lol
I cannot get why no one check this before release.
Testers are newbies?
Try the mission i linked, something is off with the module, it's not user error, hopefully a bug fix will come on Wednesday
Works on caucasus map only atm. verified bug.
Also requires that you start in the air at the moment, if you start on the ground tanking will not work.
@@tomshackell cool thanks
Hahaa the redmist :D
nice guide as per usual bud
I think we've all done it once or twice :)
@@RedKiteRender I haven't, but the temptation has made itself known at least once
I don't know how, but after hours of practicing I'm finally getting the hang of it.
Jesus christ thank you, everyone else was talking about "how hard it is" without telling you the god damn controls.
Speed control is my issue. I got the gain adjusted for the stick and rudders so I don't over correct. Speed control varies with environments. And turbulence. To me, this evolution is more difficult than a carrier landing. Well made video. Liked and subbed
All about keeping on top of the engine lag, and working predictively! Give it a quick bump in the right direction return to 'neutral' before you see a result, observe and repeat.
Great tutorial RedKite as always, funny and full of nice tips and tricks (that most of us didn't think of, I guarantee) to make a "simple" refueling turn into something a bit easier to do. Thank you so much, can't wait for the next ones!!!
Thanks Ale Cisla! appreciate the kind words.
Videoes like this is why i subscribed and got a membership for your channel.
You have a very clear and calm voice, that is easy to understand and follow.
Thank you.
You're more than welcome Brian, thanks for your support!
This has to be one of the most frustrating things I have ever tried in DCS. Kudos to those who can do it.
It's one of those critical skills not practiced, which makes AAR so difficult. In real life, you won't go to a tanker until you're proficient in formation flying, which is a rarely used skill in DCS, unless you're getting into organised or group play online.
Best DCS tutorials on the internet! Good job, change nothing and don't feal forced to produce more faster. Keep it as it is and I am happy :)
last night I finally aerial refueled successfully and I did it in this bird, love her so much
I felt like you were talking directly to me at the end where you said if you're mad take a break :)
Thanks for the super chill in depth tutorial.
Another excellent tutorial with the calming voice we need for the situation!
Great video - 4 hours after watching it I managed to fill up :)
very high quality ... and very clear ... a thousand likes from me!
Thanks Solar!
Very nice! I watch this right after crashing into the tanker....
I highly appreciate that video u made it helped me understand the basics and concepts of A-A Refuealing I get stress out along because the aircraft won't stay stable
FYI changing between TACAN MODES X and Y is no longer done just by pushing the MODE SELECT button. You will get zero's now. Just put one "0" in and then hit ENTER and it will change. So a little different than what the video states (was patched and changed the process)
As always super tutorial, love listening to your voice, calm and easy for me to follow as a non English speaker. Keep it up! Thx for the mission aswell
Excellent instructions and information, not like another gamer that pretends like it's so easy, practice and patience is the key, No rudder and trim is essential. Good video
Make a meditation channel or something lol. I find your voice and way of speaking quite chill and relaxing. Keep up the good job!
RedKite - you have such a soothing voice and approach to these videos. Are you an instructor IRL? Anyway, I need to have you alongside when practicing so I can remain calm and hook up. 🤣 Thanks for positing this!
Respect! I saw your practice mission up already, thank you so much for that! AAR is so much fun!
Cheers!
Excellent tutorial. It answers alot of questions. I have only just started to fly the F-16 Viper in DCS, so I have some way to go before trying this. When I do, this will help alot. Thank you!
Your videos are always top notch Redkite
This tutorial is great, very well constructed - I learned a hell of a lot. Thanks!
All I need now is some coffee for maximum enjoyment from this video, thanks!
Thank you, your timing is awesome. I was planned to learn how to this tonight.
Thanks for providing a working mission (which I have yet to test). Really itching to try refueling her again.
Never had any issues with it in BMS and I suppose you know the tankers there fly tighter turns. Good times. Nice to be flying her again.
Haha i think the Falcon bms Tanker's crew like to take bets on if they can shake you off.
@@RedKiteRender BMS tankers couldn't shake me or any of my wingmen ;)
We had such a great "casual hardcore" community going back in the days :)
And your training mission worked perfectly for me in SP
@@RedKiteRender AAR currently only works before you've pressed the NWS button once.
Pressing it will trigger the AR Disconnect and somewhere deep in the code that state sticks, causing the instant disconnects.
I'm ready for a patch today :)
Nice vid showing every step, and with that calm voice u get eveything 🙂
This felt like learning aar all over again, took me a couple frustrating hours to do it successfully. I honestly find the tomcat 10x easier to refuel, the boom is a pain in the ass haha
All comes down to what you're already practiced with, and unlearning techniques that dont cross over. I personally prefer the boom, as it transfers fuel faster!
@@RedKiteRender Oh absolutely, trying to fill up the tomcat with bags feels like an absolute eternity. Great tutorial though!
Thank you for providing the practice mission.
Rumour has it Airforce training command adopted this as their new video
Thanks for another informative video, it also helped me with the UFC navigation
Excellent stuff. Thank you very much. Will try in VR.
It's great in vr! Having the depth perception makes AAR a little easier too!
hello Sir, you talk very nicely and slow, A+++
I was so ready for these videos! Thanks!
As usual top notch tutorial
A very "pro " and easy to understand tutorial. Thank you ;)
You make that look so easy. Great tutorial. Cheers.
Plenty of practice under my belt :)
1:22 Just as a note you don't have to use the DCS switch to select the right entry. You can just type 1 4 into the scratchpad and it'll work out that it's a TACAN channel and set it.
2:45 Similarly you don't have to modify a preset you can just type the frequency you want into the scratchpad and it'll set the radio to that frequency. You also don't have to enter 2 5 1 0 0 using 2 5 1 works just fine
In fact it should be impossible to access those fields with DCS, only command steering (for mode selection) scratchpad and azimuth should be accessible. Band should be only changeable by entering 0 into scratchpad. The fact that they can be accessed directly bypassing the scratchpad is either a bug or omission.
Awesome training video , I am going to practice !!!
stunning video buddy, as always
Thank you! :-) Just what I've been waiting for :-)
great Tutorial as allways 👌
Excellent video! As always.
Still the very best tutorials out there Spud. Great stuff! And than you for the Tutorial mission, great for training.
A great A2A RF vid! Thank you!
Can't wait to try this!
Brilliant job keep it up!
5:20 I definitely haven't done this when I tried to refuel with the Hornet... Definitely did NOT do that
Very good and clear.
Thanks a lot .. sharing the mission file is very toughtful, kudos for that and glad to be subscribed to your channel :)
What a beautiful job !!!
as always great lesson !!
thanks
fantastic refueling tutorial!
Actually... Passed out listening to ya mate. And after I just refueled off a tanker in my 16. Going from Russian refueling where the boom is on the left of the nose, to the American 14 on the right of the nose then the 15 back on the left and now the 16 behind me.
The most important part of AAR is the attitude. You gotta go in there relaxed, not white knuckle. After all you just gonna fly straight and level for a while. Make it boring. Play musak in your head. "Girl from Ipanema" elevator music does it for me. For those that don't know the tune, it's the elevator music from the Blues Brothers.
Awesome training video!!!
Your videos are f'n awesome!
This is a very clear and reassuring tutorial! Thank you!
One question: Is ALT HOLD inadvisable?
ALT HOLD or any form of autopilot is a bad idea, it'll mess with your inputs, and then disengage when you try to push through it to adjust, resulting in you potentially pitching quite hard and suddenly.
Once you're in formation, keep it manual.
Can you explain a bit how you trim correctly? Can"t seem to get her trimmed correctly with a tpod or assymetric load on my aircraft. If i trim i always bank to much to 1 side or the other.
It's the same as every other aircraft, just gently tap the trim repeatedly to correct any un-commanded roll/pitch. If you can't get it quite right, get it close enough that the drift is slow and manageable. You can see the trim levels in the bottom left panels in the corner of the cockpit.
@@RedKiteRender Thanks, ill try to get her stable ;)
Great tips. Great video.
Redkite Thanks a lot for this tutorial. Aerial refueling is one of my favorite mission. Glad to have your very detailed tutorial as a guide. Which would you say is more difficult, drogue basket or the boom method?
I think the Boom is my favourite, Faster fuel transfer, director lights and no basket to chase after. But, the Basket is more forgiving once you're connected and is probably the safer option as you're not flying under another aircraft.
Thanks for your insight. I have nailed the basket method to perfection on a straight flying tanker in the Hornet. Never successful with the boom method. I will be looking forward to the new challenge.
Nice tutorial. I feel tense watching it :)
Cheers BIGNEWY, You gotta give AAR a go, one of the most relaxing tasks once you've learned it.
@@RedKiteRender been testing a while, and never been good at it lol :)
AAR is so hard, this is so relatable 5:20
Great video, thanks!
Nice. I hate probe and drogue, so hopefully I'll get on with this more. Cheers.
I love the boom! (A-10c aside, as it's a little odd doing nose boom) Boom lets you concentrate on the flying without the distraction of catching the basket.
Redkite sounds like my surgeon.
Easily the best tutorials. Just wondering what curves you use? Or just default? That was some silky smooth flying
I use a curve of 10, and use a WarBRD base with TM Warthog Handle and a 10cm extension
@@RedKiteRender thank you!
Great video. Thank you
Well done.Thank you.
I subscribed.
Very good video
"Avoid prolonged sessions" - yes. I found practicing every or most days best, but only for about 10 minutes, and once I started getting murderous I stopped. After about a week I was there, although doing it in a turn with turbulence took longer.
Great vid. 05:22 is me irl
Great vid.
Thanks RedKite
best tutorial
I noticed a bug with the TACAN if plug in TACAN 14Y AA T/R, i can only get direction to the tanker. But if go with 14X AA T/R it works as it suppose to. I have double checked the redkite mission in the editor and its 14Y!
That happens with the Hornet as well, I think Y only transmits location not distance, however I could be wrong that's just my observations.
Tacan logic was changed a while back with the introduction of Datalink on the hornet, I'm not totally sure what's happening, Y is usually only operated by airborne stations and X for ground based. I don't think they should be broadcasting on both bands. It's not uncommon for airborne tacan to only give range information as they have smaller transmitters than ground stations.
@@RedKiteRender My experience with Y tacans is they'll display their location but not distance so I'd have to lock whatever it is up (tanker) for more information.