@future5839 I think you should at the VERY LEAST do a quick Google search before you make any kind of claim from now on 😂 Yes, Spiderman became an Avenger on multiple occasions.
Well they are the strongest on their team so it makes sense. The other members can fight among themselves but SW vs Jean fight will decide the ultimate victory.
@@Soldout360 I don't know what you mean by it but they ain't gonna fight against a Phoenix force if that's what you meant. They will be keeping the other X men engaged.
Magneto just has to use Wolverine as a blender and launch him spinning like a blender at people, Wolverine would be pissed the whole time but he would live 🤣🤣
@@KnightsTable The MCU Hulk isn't even a threat. If we were talking comics I could see your point but as the video pointed out, he could never contend against the professor's mind control powers as he was shown to be very susceptible to mind control in Age of Ultron.
@@LuckyWunder true i kinda overlooked that pardon. Comic Hulk probably wouldnt even fight the XMen he usually don't have a problem with them Unless Wolverine or Juggernaut start they shit.
@@KnightsTable well yeah but I mean it is a hypothetical for a reason, generally most of the avengers cast don't have blood feuds with the X-Men and vice versa but its still neat to think about how they would potentially combat one another.
I mean yeah but storm it’s basically a mortal version of Thor but they are more powerful than they look but that’s on the comics and this is more oriented on the mcu
@@Lolgi0722 Even then, live action wise storms been presented as way more versatile than thor has. She wont win a lightning off(although live action wise shes still been more precise and skilled), but shes been presented to have more useful abilities. Iceman live action wise less, but still shouldnt be undermined
@@footfungus666 it would be quite interesting to think of and see a fight between them but Thor tank a star and yes she can command weather and why not but realistically there’s nothing she can do to hurt him( I feel both storm and ice man deserved way more just like rouge that in the movies she isn’t as powerful)
I think it would come down to 1) IF either side planned a first strike initiative and 2) at what time over the decades you pick for the fight to happen. Also 3) if you take the film or comic versions? What version of Phoenix? Jean or the separate Phoenix's Force? One could rip a planet apart with her telekinesis. Some were pretty wimpy. Which version of Quicksilver and what side would he be on as the one in the comics was way slower than the one in the movies. Carol Danvers was on both teams (Ms. Marvel and Binary). Beast was on both teams. Magneto could probably take out All the Avengers that rely on technology at once, this includes the comic version of Vision (no infinity stone). He has given Thor a hard time in comics. He has given the whole X-man team a hard time at once. His comic version force fields could deflect a small nuke. Later versions of Ice Man portray him as being able to cut Thor's skin with ice. Some versions of Thor were way OP and he alone would be an issue. What version of the Hulk? Now for first strike: If Dr. Strange and Scarlet Witch teamed up for a pre-emptive magical attack, NONE of the X-men would have any defense. If Professor X and Phoenix (even Jean Grey without the PF) teamed up for a pre-emptive PSY attack, NONE of the Avengers (besides Vision) would have any defense. Maggie would rip him apart. An yes, I'm an old school nerd.
And yet Thor would be her most likely opponent and make short work of her... Assuming of course that Professor X didn't end the fight before it started.
It's like they don't get the core power of Storm, Magneto and Iceman. These folks can end life on Earth on a casual Tuesday if they were a customer that got bad coffee and were irritated
@@sebastiansilverfox6912 Wrong you don't fight fire with fire you fight fire with a fire retarding substance. Storms apponents would be the humans .Rogue would take on Thor.
The Phoenix is the Judge of creation under God/One above All, Jean can hold the Marvel Multi vers in her hand, Hulk will survive because he's the son of God
Charles is so op that only plots can stop him, he can instantaneously make most of the opponent's brain dead (he doesn't do it as he's a good person, but if it is life or death for his people, he will go for it), even Scarlett witch if she's not ready or anticipates the attack. that's the base version of him, he doesn't need some dark magic book or cosmic entity for that. Magneto/jean grey can take care of it if someone survives that. Rest x-men can sit and watch.
Hard to say, if the Sentry, Scarlet Witch, Vision and Doctor Strange are involved....then they'd put up a significant fight against the X Men, but you are right, Professor X, Magneto, Storm and Jean Grey alone would make the fight hard for the Avengers...
he actually go into the mind and fought with a god like being with the power to destory the whole world easily i think its safe to say that x men solos
Now way! I can't believe you've made a redone version of this fight! Super cool but I would have much prefered if you did the comic book version of this iconic debate.
I wouldn’t even consider Dr Strange as a Avenger. Avengers’ everyday “battles” is a bit less of an issue to Dr Strange. It’s weird for someone that does “Mystical Arts” to take down Ultron.
I would love, love, love a scene where Dr. Strange goes into the Astral Plane thinking he would find an advantage there, only to find Xavier there waiting. And let's be fair, Wanda took out Blackbolt, Mr. Fantaastic and Xavier in a timeline where "the smartest man in the world" gave away his most powerful teammate's weakness in a matter of seconds. So obviously there was an intellect handicap in that timeline.
Magneto cannot control Vibranium and it’s been stated many times in comics. He tried messing with T’challa blood once and it didn’t work. In its pure form it doesn’t respond to his command at all. So if the avengers all had access to vibranium then he isn’t doing anything to anyone
@zzirfamo24 Dude she'd be too busy getting hammered by the Phoenix Force. You think Jean is gonna be standing there letting her father figure get attacked lol. This isn't a one vs one like in MoM. Good try though.
Ngl it’s never fair when phoenix and scarlet witch are in a fight bc 9 times out of ten without plot armor they just squad wipe😭 I wanna see an x men vs avengers where it’s just straight hands
@@luctrenholm9170But if you bring Deadpool and Wolverine movies into this, this battle will be over as soon as it starts, there will be Casandra nova and also alioth which cannot be killed and consumes everything in its path. And also Elektra, x-23, gambit and blade.
@@wokeydokey6885 only mentioned them because he mentioned them specifically in the vid but never brough them back up during the fight break down ( probably realized they are broken)
That Doctor Strange doesn’t win much is an understatement (granted he does a VERY poor job of picking opponents). His “record” is 2 wins - 14,000,000 losses -0 ties against Thanos, and probably 0 - 5,000 - 1 versus Dormamu and 0 - 1 against Scarlett witch, and 1-0 against Casilius (Mads Milkensen)
The Pheonix is not a God, it is a Comic Being on par with Lady Death, Eternity, and the Living Tribunal. On the other hand, The Scarlet Witch said "No More Mutants" and nearly wiped out all mutants on Earth.
@@asssassynThe white Phoenix is well above Scarlet Witch. This has defeated her before. She “no more mutants” was heavily amped on the life force and she didn’t even get rid of all mutants. That’s like a planet level feat
Black canary vs Catwoman (both comics) Jason Voorhees vs Wolverine She Hulk (comics) vs Mileena (MK) Worthy Captain America vs Human Torch The predator vs Deadpool Homelander vs Xenomorph Queen Could Master chief stop a Xenomorph invasion Who would win and why?
I disagree with a lot on this list. There is SO much he's not taking into consideration. For example, there's no reason to think Magneto can't control or deflect Thor's lightning, considering Magneto can control everything in the electromagnetic spectrum I don't know if this idea has been put to the test in the comics, but it really doesn't matter since he seems to be doing only movie versions. Also, he mentioned the Hulk stamping professor x, but that also assumes the prof. would be AT the battle, which there is no reason why he should be or would have to be. Also, also, He mentions quicksilver speed and ability to knock people out. There is also no reason to believe he couldn't do that to someone like Scarlet Witch at the very onset of the battle, especially if the team had time to prepare. Cyclops would know to take out SW first. Also, why take Rogue out?? Sure, the movie version isn't like the comic version, but fighting captain marvel is what gave her her permanent strength to begin with, So there's no reason to think rogue can't pull Something like that off in this kind of battle. There are more, but I have limited space. I'm not saying the fight wouldn't feel closer than some people might think, just for a bunch of different reasons, than he listed.
@arminarlert6871 when, in the MCU does it say she always has a shield?? Also, when, in the MCU has it shown her reacting fast enough to counter someone with Quicksiler's kind of speed?? I'm not saying she can't do it in the comics, but again, he seems to be purely going off movies
@@sparrow420500 Shield - watch multiverse of madness, she can activate her shield on autopilot while simultaneously attacking. And even if her shield is off, her durability can match Thor, Captain Marvel, and Hulk. If her body breaks, her magic instantly heals her (multiverse of madness, when she was getting out of the mirror dimension) Speed - watch wandavision ep7, she can stop her speedster child. in mom, she also fought and killed captain marvel whose photon blasts are the same speed as the speed of light. did you watch mcu or just xmen movies?
@@sparrow420500 Shield - In multiverse of madness it was shown that she mastered using autopilot shield. And even if the shield is off, her durability compares to Hulk, Thor and Captain Marvel’s. She received punches from America Chavez, whose punches are able to break multiversal boundaries and even send shockwaves across the mountains and Wanda didn’t even break her skin. In the case that her body is damaged heavily, her chaos magic instantly and constantly heals her (as seen from when she was gettinf out of the mirror dimension) Speed - Her chaos magic allows her to react to speedsters. As shown in WandaVision Episode 7, she was able to grab her speedster son’s while he was running and stopped him. In MoM, she fought and killed Captain Marvel whose photon blasts are the same speed as the speed of light. Even if she gets blitzed by speedsters, her durability and constant healing will protect her. Scarlet Witch has Chaos Magic inside her body which allowas her to be techincally immortal.
@arminarlert6871 Okay, you might have me on MoM. I didn't watch it, but I'm not sure we can fully trust much that happened in Wandavision because it wasn't real, and Wanda was creating/controlling it. I know more about her from the comics than the MCU. I mostly lost interest in the MCU somewhere around the Kate Bishop show.
In my opinion its more like Scarlet, Dr. Strange, Thor, Captain Marvel vs Jean Gray, Professor X, Magneto but this can be simplified into Scarlet, Dr. Strange vs Jean Gray now... the thing is i only started watching marvel movie more just recently, But I watch all Dr. Stange movies quite a few time as I absolutly love him. Even tho I dont really know marvel characters, im really good at understanding the true power of pretty much anything since im like 3yo. And ive come to the conclusion that if the fight last less than like... maybe an hour, Dr. Strange isnt that good, but if he can have enough time to think, he definetly wins. Simply because Stange simply pretty much have unlimited power... He only need to know what to do with them, if he know what he has to do he can for sure do it. And this is why this is one of the only super heros I like, because all of the others dont make sense, they are like super strong but for some reason they cant beat weak things... And this dont aply to Dr. Strange because he is limited by his reason of being... Dr. Strange is so underated in my opinion.
@SmileBe4Death What? Jean isn't squad wiping Scarlet Witch, Captain Marvel or Thor. One's almost a powerful as her and the other two have beyond star level durability. And in the comics it's a clear victory for the Avengers.
@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 , what do you want me to say? Doesn't matter what I say you will gonna keep your "blah blah avengers blah blah", not my first rodeo. For what it's worth I almost sure I've been reading comics long before you were born
@SmileBe4Death Another great reply....shows how good you are at arguments. You're probably the type who brags that's been reading comics for 50+ years when you probably aren't even 30. Without Phoenix, the Avengers would mudstomp the X-Men hard...comics, movies, cartoons you name it.
Captain Man (Henry Danger) vs Crimson Chin (The Fairly OddParents!) Johnny Cage vs Jackie Chan Luke Cage vs John Cena Uzi Doorman (Murder Drones) vs Two-Face (DC Comics)
Great matchups and I get what you were saying but I think you should have included the others from a matchup standpoint. Wolverine v. Captain America or Black panther. Ironman v. Cyclops. Black widow v. Mystique. Spider man v. Night crawler. Thor v. Storm.
@TYLERtheMAGGOT1 Read before you comment. I said most of the Avengers. Ofc scarlet witch is a different beast. She will have her hands full with Jean and the others. Charles doesn't need to fight Scarlet Witch. He just makes it so most of the Avengers can do nothing. X-men will win unless Wanda can take on the whole mutant team with little help.
Suggestions of the Day Kang vs Apocalypse Black Adam vs X men Kratos vs Godzilla Omniman vs Eternals Young justice vs Teen Titans Guardians of the Galaxy vs The Seven Who wins and why?
Dr Strange can easily give the X-Men a big case of amnesia with a spell. Plus Scarlett Witch can have her magic on autopilot while she multi-task fighting elsewhere.
Yep, there's a few hard hitters for the Avengers who carry the team. If not for Scarlet witch, strange, vision, and maybe the Sentry (if they include him), then X Men will win
Only issue with this video is: In the MCU, Captain America is retired, Iron Man is dead, King Tchalla is dead, Vision is MIA and no longer has an Infinity Stone, Dr. Strange isn't the Sorcerer Supreme currently. AND Spider-Man was able to solo the ENTIRE X-Men team during Secret Wars, let alone people like Scarlett Witch who said "No more mutants..."
Not to mention that anytime the Phoenix is around longer than a week or two the X-Men get destroyed and then there's no longer a team and the avengers win by default. And if you wanna say the you still have to fight the Phoenix then ok she starts dusting people and Scarlett witch says no more Phoenix boom it's over.
There's this cool animation out there, called "Why Magneto can never be in the MCU" (though I think it actually predates the Marvel movies) in which he basically soloes the Avengers. Most memorable lines: Captain America: "For when I throw my mighty shield..." Magneto: "I'm the Master of Magnetism, and you just hurled a METAL FRISBEE at me!?" Edit: Don't miss Thanos at the end!
I love how Professor can easily freeze them leaving only the SW I think being alone. I'm sure that if Jean pulls off what she did on Xmen Last stand the fight will also be easy where Wanda will be alive for the avengers and if she tries to say no more mutants we all know that Phoenix can easily bring them back. If she says no more Phoenix it won't happened because she can't do it alone without the help of the host.
So I think the best matchups you could do for Avengers vs X-Men would be to make the teams contemporary to the Uncanny X-Men run that saw the blue and gold teams while Avengers has East and West Coast teams. This would not only limit your rosters but also take Xavier out of the equation (as he was over the blue and gold teams without being part of either) while Jean Grey was without the Phoenix force and Scarlett Witch had not fully realized the extent of her powers. The best matchups then would be X-Men Blue vs Avengers East Coast and X-Men Gold vs Avengers West Coast.
Well it's a tough fight bc while the Avengers have way higher AP, they don't really have any counter to genjutsu. There's also amaterasu and Itachi's susanoo's sealing. Let's not forget hidan as well. He seems weak but on a team, he's the most essential wild card bc he can basically one shot any opponent who doesn't have a healing factor like Hulk. Then there's obito. It would be srt of dependent on how their powers would interact w each other (eg. would Dr Strange be able to access obito's mangekyo dimension w his mystic arts? n stuff like that)
@@Elstuderino you said you didn't see any X-Men in the MCU Which is wrong because Quicksilver and. Scarlet Witch were in the MCU since 2015, and Now Deadpool & Wolverine & others, and Scarlett Witch & Quicksilver became Avengers
It really isn’t. Jean turns them into dust in seconds. Cyclops disintegrates them in seconds. Wolverine cuts their heads off in seconds or tires them out while he heals to the point that they have an heart attack because they in fact can’t do this “all day” similar to Wonder Woman in Justice league doom, the way Batman had it planned to stop her despite being how strong she is. Or Storm could drop the temperate below zero & make the entire avengers die of the cold like Jack Torrance in the Shinning.
I mean it really depends if you are going strongest version of them, movie version etc. if you do strongest versions avengers win all day rune king Thor or rune king with cosmic energy Thor fucks everyone up. World breaker hulk fucks every xman up. Scarlet witch at her highest ramp can fuck everyone up just taking their powers away.
Dude is talking like Thor and Hulk Don't Exist ☠️, Cyclops and wolverine ain't shit in front of these 2, Jean is the only one that can beat them, that too is only if she has the Phoenix Force
I know this is the MCU Avengers, but let's not forget what Scarlett Witch did to Mutants in the comics with just three words. "No more mutants" It all comes down to the writer.
@@patricklafontaine5969 Phoenix is a host, we are not talking about outside forces. Phoenix can even be in Hulk. That's how I could say Toba Immortal Hulk... We're not talking about the hosts, we're talking about their current form.
@@patricklafontaine5969 There are 2 different identities, the Phoenix can be in anyone, it is a cosmic power, it existed before Jean Gray, it will exist after her death. We strictly refer to the singular identity, that is, only to Jean Gray. That's why I didn't say Toba Hulk either, because Toba is a different entity.
@@CopaceanuIonutBobi There's a huge difference between the two for many reasons. 1 we don't see Toba Hulk in live action . 2. The version of Jean Grey that we see in live action is way stronger than regular Jean. Also the Phoenyx has a connection to Jean Grey , she is the only person to access the full power of the phoenix. So yes the host can be anyone but so will it's power level.
Dark Phoenix is my favorite Marvel Universe hero! She is full of good deeds like…absorbing stars and destroying the systems inhabitants! Go Dark Phoenix!
Ok hear me out this fight would be epic. I do agree with your out come but you forgot how strong Magnus and Xavier are there combos are very overwhelming.
Ice man and storm are omega level mutants. They don’t just wield their elements, they literally bend them to their will. Anything weather related, “The Storm” can manipulate in her favor and weaponize them. Ice man does the equivalent with ice.
Wow u did Iceman dirty... he is an Omega level mutant who can create ice clones of himself that essentially make him immortal as they share all his memories and knowledge
Doctor Strange was a bit downplayed here… Dr strange would beat thanos by himself, but he had to give the time stone to thanos, cause that was the only way to win the war. Imagine If dr strange shared the darkhold with scarlet witch. That would be a different story.
Hopefully Scarlet Witch could reason with her father Magneto and her brother Quicksilver before this fight even began. Once it did begin though, all it would take is a simple coordinated mass mind attack from Charles and Jean. Not even Thanos with all five infinity stones could survive that
Captain America: "I can do this all day."
Wolverine: "That's the spirit."
Lol
@@future5839yes he is and who tf asked kid
@future5839 I think you should at the VERY LEAST do a quick Google search before you make any kind of claim from now on 😂 Yes, Spiderman became an Avenger on multiple occasions.
@@Babatunde_69420Jesus Christ 😅
So violent… keep it up bro 👍
@@Voodoochaser 🥰
This battle turned into scarlet witch vs. Jean grey real quick
Well they are the strongest on their team so it makes sense. The other members can fight among themselves but SW vs Jean fight will decide the ultimate victory.
Shawn do you think Professor X can get into her head if she’s distracted a bit? We know what happened when it was X and just her🤣🤣
Don’t forget Dr strange and Thor
@@Soldout360 I don't know what you mean by it but they ain't gonna fight against a Phoenix force if that's what you meant. They will be keeping the other X men engaged.
@@KevinFrame-b8rWho said anything about Professor X?
Magneto just has to use Wolverine as a blender and launch him spinning like a blender at people, Wolverine would be pissed the whole time but he would live 🤣🤣
and move Colossus and Juggernaut around like right and left hands...X-Men top Avengers all day...the only Problem is The Hulk hands down..
@@KnightsTable The MCU Hulk isn't even a threat. If we were talking comics I could see your point but as the video pointed out, he could never contend against the professor's mind control powers as he was shown to be very susceptible to mind control in Age of Ultron.
@@LuckyWunder true i kinda overlooked that pardon. Comic Hulk probably wouldnt even fight the XMen he usually don't have a problem with them Unless Wolverine or Juggernaut start they shit.
@@KnightsTable well yeah but I mean it is a hypothetical for a reason, generally most of the avengers cast don't have blood feuds with the X-Men and vice versa but its still neat to think about how they would potentially combat one another.
The Iceman and Storm disrespect is CRAZY.. both Omega Level mutants that can literally end the world if they wanted to..
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I mean yeah but storm it’s basically a mortal version of Thor but they are more powerful than they look but that’s on the comics and this is more oriented on the mcu
@@Lolgi0722 Even then, live action wise storms been presented as way more versatile than thor has. She wont win a lightning off(although live action wise shes still been more precise and skilled), but shes been presented to have more useful abilities. Iceman live action wise less, but still shouldnt be undermined
@@footfungus666 it would be quite interesting to think of and see a fight between them but Thor tank a star and yes she can command weather and why not but realistically there’s nothing she can do to hurt him( I feel both storm and ice man deserved way more just like rouge that in the movies she isn’t as powerful)
In the comic books not in the movie version
Cap's shield is indestructible..
Magneto: hold my Cognac
Ironmans armor too,magneto can control all metals, also Thanos broke his shield
Magneto can easily solo winter soldier iron man captain america n black panther
it all depends if magneto can move vibranium
@@kenpatricksia9404Why not
@@rodighierogiorgio9693he can't control all metals it depends if they are ferous or not
@@randomPATTA-ICICLEI’n the comics he could control thors hammer
Magneto can control all metal. He'd easily win and can create electro magnetic force fields around himself and shut down the world's electricity.
I think it would come down to 1) IF either side planned a first strike initiative and 2) at what time over the decades you pick for the fight to happen. Also 3) if you take the film or comic versions?
What version of Phoenix? Jean or the separate Phoenix's Force? One could rip a planet apart with her telekinesis. Some were pretty wimpy.
Which version of Quicksilver and what side would he be on as the one in the comics was way slower than the one in the movies.
Carol Danvers was on both teams (Ms. Marvel and Binary).
Beast was on both teams.
Magneto could probably take out All the Avengers that rely on technology at once, this includes the comic version of Vision (no infinity stone). He has given Thor a hard time in comics. He has given the whole X-man team a hard time at once. His comic version force fields could deflect a small nuke.
Later versions of Ice Man portray him as being able to cut Thor's skin with ice.
Some versions of Thor were way OP and he alone would be an issue.
What version of the Hulk?
Now for first strike:
If Dr. Strange and Scarlet Witch teamed up for a pre-emptive magical attack, NONE of the X-men would have any defense.
If Professor X and Phoenix (even Jean Grey without the PF) teamed up for a pre-emptive PSY attack, NONE of the Avengers (besides Vision) would have any defense. Maggie would rip him apart.
An yes, I'm an old school nerd.
I honestly need you to make this video. This is what I was hoping to see.
This! Literally what I was thinking the whole time. Depending on what versions and the situation it could go either way in millions of ways
Storm is seriously underappreciated. She has the power of mother nature and could destroy life on Earth using it. That is God level power.
And yet Thor would be her most likely opponent and make short work of her... Assuming of course that Professor X didn't end the fight before it started.
It's like they don't get the core power of Storm, Magneto and Iceman. These folks can end life on Earth on a casual Tuesday if they were a customer that got bad coffee and were irritated
@@DT-hy6px agreed
@@DT-hy6pxoff topic question...could magneto lift thor's hammer?
@@sebastiansilverfox6912 Wrong you don't fight fire with fire you fight fire with a fire retarding substance. Storms apponents would be the humans .Rogue would take on Thor.
Both teams got heroes who can control weather and distingrate people. It really is close when you think about it
Wolverine: I'm good what I do and what I do isn't so very nice
I mean Ororo Monroe (Storm) is considered a goddess as powerful as she is so she might be a problem for Thor
DanCo: The Avengers vs. The X-Men
Scarlet Witch: What X-Men?
The Phoenix this X-men
Missing point, Rouge drain SW once.
Rouge:"sr suga, you are too dangerous to live?"
Scarlet:"what does that make you" 😬
The Phoenix is the Judge of creation under God/One above All, Jean can hold the Marvel Multi vers in her hand, Hulk will survive because he's the son of God
@@thecartoonsthatmadeus4Thor, Scarlet Witch, Odin and Thanos are the only ones that can defeat Phoenix Force
@@Daverast01 None of them can defeat the Phoenix Force unleashed
Charles is so op that only plots can stop him, he can instantaneously make most of the opponent's brain dead (he doesn't do it as he's a good person, but if it is life or death for his people, he will go for it), even Scarlett witch if she's not ready or anticipates the attack. that's the base version of him, he doesn't need some dark magic book or cosmic entity for that. Magneto/jean grey can take care of it if someone survives that. Rest x-men can sit and watch.
Hard to say, if the Sentry, Scarlet Witch, Vision and Doctor Strange are involved....then they'd put up a significant fight against the X Men, but you are right, Professor X, Magneto, Storm and Jean Grey alone would make the fight hard for the Avengers...
he actually go into the mind and fought with a god like being with the power to destory the whole world easily i think its safe to say that x men solos
If Wanda in her weaker form can drive the avengers crazy, imagine what Charles can do.
This aged really poorly
@@Getawayk weakened wanda > charles lol
Now way! I can't believe you've made a redone version of this fight! Super cool but I would have much prefered if you did the comic book version of this iconic debate.
if it comics it’s a different story tbh
In the comics Avengers get stomped even worse.
@@asssassyn Nah.
@@asssassynIt’s the same I think
@@asssassyn well that depends on the roster tbh it could go either way
i dont know... are half of the avengers really part of the group?
I wouldn’t even consider Dr Strange as a Avenger. Avengers’ everyday “battles” is a bit less of an issue to Dr Strange. It’s weird for someone that does “Mystical Arts” to take down Ultron.
There is no contest here. With Prof X & Jean alone the Avengers are done. Mind control is way OP.
Didn't go too well for Professor X against Scarlet Witch
@Bakafish100 Charles can't control characters who have head protection and Jean will be hard pressed to beat Scarlet Witch alone.
@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979
Which makes sense as she is actually a mutant originally
That only applies to special head gear that is specifically designed to stop him not all head gear lol@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979
If either of them get hit once they are dead
X-Men would win with medium difficulty at best, it's not close. 90% of the Avengers use metal, what will they do against Magneto 😭
Scarlett witch would literally snap his neck. Magneto can't beat magic
haven’t watched the video yet though
Doc Strange or Wanda would beat him
@@Mindag13so Jean Gray and Professor X aren't powerful enough to take on Dr. Strange or Wanda? Come on.
@@krazyhorse9596 I was talking about Magneto. But Wanda beats Jean
Dr fate and doctor strange vs scarlet with and zatanna.
Dr. Strange x Constantine vs Scarlet Witch x Zatanna would be a better/fair match up
Who's idea do you guys like better Dr fate and doctor strange vs scarlet and zatanna or Dr fate and Constantine vs scarlet witch and zatanna.
@@FootballTape you kept on adding Dr. Fate on both options. What I've said was Dr. Strange and Constantine on men's side.
Dr.Fate solos all by himself
@@zzirfamo24 precisely, that's why it's unfair to include him on the list. You even didn't get the main point.
I was expecting this to be an hour long.
I would love, love, love a scene where Dr. Strange goes into the Astral Plane thinking he would find an advantage there, only to find Xavier there waiting.
And let's be fair, Wanda took out Blackbolt, Mr. Fantaastic and Xavier in a timeline where "the smartest man in the world" gave away his most powerful teammate's weakness in a matter of seconds. So obviously there was an intellect handicap in that timeline.
Magneto cannot control Vibranium and it’s been stated many times in comics. He tried messing with T’challa blood once and it didn’t work. In its pure form it doesn’t respond to his command at all. So if the avengers all had access to vibranium then he isn’t doing anything to anyone
Except for controlling all the metal around them so uhh...yea that part 😂
@@dcyrilp and what’s that’s gonna do against the big hitters with vibranium😂💀….. yea that part
@zzirfamo24 Doesn't need to take out the big hitters when you have professor X to shut them down. So uhh that part ✔️ check mate
@@dcyrilp Professor X would already be taken out by Wanda like she did in MoM…. So yea good try tho👍
@zzirfamo24 Dude she'd be too busy getting hammered by the Phoenix Force. You think Jean is gonna be standing there letting her father figure get attacked lol. This isn't a one vs one like in MoM. Good try though.
Danco got this right. Dark Phoenix solos though
Now we need the Avengers vs X-men, the comic version
Great video!
Ngl it’s never fair when phoenix and scarlet witch are in a fight bc 9 times out of ten without plot armor they just squad wipe😭 I wanna see an x men vs avengers where it’s just straight hands
Avengers taking the win if it's just hands
@@uh.jadian2309 wolverine and deadpool being immortal also kills this no avenger has immortality or anything close to the same durability
@@luctrenholm9170But if you bring Deadpool and Wolverine movies into this, this battle will be over as soon as it starts, there will be Casandra nova and also alioth which cannot be killed and consumes everything in its path. And also Elektra, x-23, gambit and blade.
@@wokeydokey6885 only mentioned them because he mentioned them specifically in the vid but never brough them back up during the fight break down ( probably realized they are broken)
@@luctrenholm9170immortal hulk!? Plus hulk bodies Wolverine almost every time in the comics.
That Doctor Strange doesn’t win much is an understatement (granted he does a VERY poor job of picking opponents).
His “record” is 2 wins - 14,000,000 losses -0 ties against Thanos, and probably 0 - 5,000 - 1 versus Dormamu and 0 - 1 against Scarlett witch, and 1-0 against Casilius (Mads Milkensen)
The Pheonix is not a God, it is a Comic Being on par with Lady Death, Eternity, and the Living Tribunal. On the other hand, The Scarlet Witch said "No More Mutants" and nearly wiped out all mutants on Earth.
Scarlet Witch was amped atm and she still didn't wipe them out.
@@asssassynstill more powerful than anything Phoenix ever did
@jakeryan5099 only in your mind bud.
@@asssassynThe white Phoenix is well above Scarlet Witch. This has defeated her before. She “no more mutants” was heavily amped on the life force and she didn’t even get rid of all mutants. That’s like a planet level feat
Black canary vs Catwoman (both comics)
Jason Voorhees vs Wolverine
She Hulk (comics) vs Mileena (MK)
Worthy Captain America vs Human Torch
The predator vs Deadpool
Homelander vs Xenomorph Queen
Could Master chief stop a Xenomorph invasion
Who would win and why?
I disagree with a lot on this list.
There is SO much he's not taking into consideration.
For example, there's no reason to think Magneto can't control or deflect Thor's lightning, considering Magneto can control everything in the electromagnetic spectrum
I don't know if this idea has been put to the test in the comics, but it really doesn't matter since he seems to be doing only movie versions.
Also, he mentioned the Hulk stamping professor x, but that also assumes the prof. would be AT the battle, which there is no reason why he should be or would have to be.
Also, also, He mentions quicksilver speed and ability to knock people out. There is also no reason to believe he couldn't do that to someone like Scarlet Witch at the very onset of the battle, especially if the team had time to prepare. Cyclops would know to take out SW first.
Also, why take Rogue out?? Sure, the movie version isn't like the comic version, but fighting captain marvel is what gave her her permanent strength to begin with, So there's no reason to think rogue can't pull Something like that off in this kind of battle.
There are more, but I have limited space.
I'm not saying the fight wouldn't feel closer than some people might think, just for a bunch of different reasons, than he listed.
scarlet witch can react to speedsters. and her magic is on autopilot, she always has a shield.
@arminarlert6871 when, in the MCU does it say she always has a shield??
Also, when, in the MCU has it shown her reacting fast enough to counter someone with Quicksiler's kind of speed??
I'm not saying she can't do it in the comics, but again, he seems to be purely going off movies
@@sparrow420500
Shield - watch multiverse of madness, she can activate her shield on autopilot while simultaneously attacking. And even if her shield is off, her durability can match Thor, Captain Marvel, and Hulk. If her body breaks, her magic instantly heals her (multiverse of madness, when she was getting out of the mirror dimension)
Speed - watch wandavision ep7, she can stop her speedster child. in mom, she also fought and killed captain marvel whose photon blasts are the same speed as the speed of light.
did you watch mcu or just xmen movies?
@@sparrow420500
Shield - In multiverse of madness it was shown that she mastered using autopilot shield. And even if the shield is off, her durability compares to Hulk, Thor and Captain Marvel’s. She received punches from America Chavez, whose punches are able to break multiversal boundaries and even send shockwaves across the mountains and Wanda didn’t even break her skin. In the case that her body is damaged heavily, her chaos magic instantly and constantly heals her (as seen from when she was gettinf out of the mirror dimension)
Speed - Her chaos magic allows her to react to speedsters. As shown in WandaVision Episode 7, she was able to grab her speedster son’s while he was running and stopped him. In MoM, she fought and killed Captain Marvel whose photon blasts are the same speed as the speed of light.
Even if she gets blitzed by speedsters, her durability and constant healing will protect her. Scarlet Witch has Chaos Magic inside her body which allowas her to be techincally immortal.
@arminarlert6871 Okay, you might have me on MoM. I didn't watch it, but I'm not sure we can fully trust much that happened in Wandavision because it wasn't real, and Wanda was creating/controlling it.
I know more about her from the comics than the MCU.
I mostly lost interest in the MCU somewhere around the Kate Bishop show.
In my opinion its more like
Scarlet, Dr. Strange, Thor, Captain Marvel
vs
Jean Gray, Professor X, Magneto
but this can be simplified into
Scarlet, Dr. Strange
vs
Jean Gray
now... the thing is i only started watching marvel movie more just recently, But I watch all Dr. Stange movies quite a few time as I absolutly love him. Even tho I dont really know marvel characters, im really good at understanding the true power of pretty much anything since im like 3yo. And ive come to the conclusion that if the fight last less than like... maybe an hour, Dr. Strange isnt that good, but if he can have enough time to think, he definetly wins. Simply because Stange simply pretty much have unlimited power... He only need to know what to do with them, if he know what he has to do he can for sure do it. And this is why this is one of the only super heros I like, because all of the others dont make sense, they are like super strong but for some reason they cant beat weak things... And this dont aply to Dr. Strange because he is limited by his reason of being... Dr. Strange is so underated in my opinion.
Close? You are kidding, right? If we are talking about movie characters Jean wipes them all in a jiff. Maybe it would be close in comic books
@SmileBe4Death What? Jean isn't squad wiping Scarlet Witch, Captain Marvel or Thor. One's almost a powerful as her and the other two have beyond star level durability.
And in the comics it's a clear victory for the Avengers.
@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 blah blah blah
@@SmileBe4Death Great reply...trully one of a kind.
@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979 , what do you want me to say? Doesn't matter what I say you will gonna keep your "blah blah avengers blah blah", not my first rodeo. For what it's worth I almost sure I've been reading comics long before you were born
@SmileBe4Death Another great reply....shows how good you are at arguments. You're probably the type who brags that's been reading comics for 50+ years when you probably aren't even 30.
Without Phoenix, the Avengers would mudstomp the X-Men hard...comics, movies, cartoons you name it.
Captain Man (Henry Danger) vs Crimson Chin (The Fairly OddParents!)
Johnny Cage vs Jackie Chan
Luke Cage vs John Cena
Uzi Doorman (Murder Drones) vs Two-Face (DC Comics)
Jackie Chan Vs JC is a mismatch. Try again.
Darkhawk vs Rom the Space Knight
I thought that said Hawk Tauh, Dark Hawk Tauh maybe?
Great debate!
Don't say that about The Wasp "I'm sure she can make things big" 😅
Great matchups and I get what you were saying but I think you should have included the others from a matchup standpoint. Wolverine v. Captain America or Black panther. Ironman v. Cyclops. Black widow v. Mystique. Spider man v. Night crawler. Thor v. Storm.
The storm disrespect was crazy, we must not read comics
My thoughts exactly.
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You not including iceman in high tier X-Men is insane to me
Great analysis! No qualms about this
Charles is too much in this fight. He incapacitates most of the Avengers while the rest of the team mops up.
Lol Scarlet witch snapped his neck. Come on now
@TYLERtheMAGGOT1 Read before you comment. I said most of the Avengers. Ofc scarlet witch is a different beast. She will have her hands full with Jean and the others. Charles doesn't need to fight Scarlet Witch. He just makes it so most of the Avengers can do nothing. X-men will win unless Wanda can take on the whole mutant team with little help.
Good analysis 👍
Quick Silver Laughing at Spider-Mans Spidey Sense.😂😂
spider-Man has fought Quick in the comics and it’s not as one sided as you think
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Dr Strange can easily give the X-Men a big case of amnesia with a spell. Plus Scarlett Witch can have her magic on autopilot while she multi-task fighting elsewhere.
Yep, there's a few hard hitters for the Avengers who carry the team. If not for Scarlet witch, strange, vision, and maybe the Sentry (if they include him), then X Men will win
all this just for jean gray to no difff and do the same thing on a higher scale
Magneto vs Doctor Doom
Captain america: I can do this all day
Wolverine: Good cause your gonna need to
Only issue with this video is: In the MCU, Captain America is retired, Iron Man is dead, King Tchalla is dead, Vision is MIA and no longer has an Infinity Stone, Dr. Strange isn't the Sorcerer Supreme currently. AND Spider-Man was able to solo the ENTIRE X-Men team during Secret Wars, let alone people like Scarlett Witch who said "No more mutants..."
good god this is clearly MCU/Fox verse not comics.
Also Scarlet Witch was heavily amped with life force
Fox X Men vs MCU Thanos
MCU Cassandra Nova vs Scarlet Witch
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He would give it to the justice league based on Batman having time to prepare. 😂
X men would win easily
@@Mico_lindo Which is stupid cause Charles can just read his mind, spoiling the entire " Plan "
@@Mohammed-gc1xt So can Martian Manhattan though
@rudolphmakwale9357 Martian Manhunter is alone, He Can't take down Charles, Magneto and Jean all by himself
“What phoenix force”😂😂
Didn’t Scarlet Witch simple speak all mutants out of existence once?
Give me a break, Wonda wins.
Not to mention that anytime the Phoenix is around longer than a week or two the X-Men get destroyed and then there's no longer a team and the avengers win by default. And if you wanna say the you still have to fight the Phoenix then ok she starts dusting people and Scarlett witch says no more Phoenix boom it's over.
Well can you make a vedio of The scarlet whicth against the jean grey
To be honest, the avengers always win because the avengers are heroes not mutants
N scarlet witch is too op
@@xbrandon.223 you forget, she’s not in the fox she’s in the MCU
But phoenix force is way too powerful. Even for darkhold
@@Iftekhar97 yeah you’re right
Whats with the mutant racism?
Jean Grey vs Scarlet Witch
Rogue vs Captain Marvel
Colossus vs Hulk
Magneto vs Iron Man
Wolverine vs Black Panther
Beast vs Spider Man
Etc etc.
Luke Cage (Netflix) vs Drax (MCU)
There's this cool animation out there, called "Why Magneto can never be in the MCU" (though I think it actually predates the Marvel movies) in which he basically soloes the Avengers.
Most memorable lines:
Captain America: "For when I throw my mighty shield..."
Magneto: "I'm the Master of Magnetism, and you just hurled a METAL FRISBEE at me!?"
Edit: Don't miss Thanos at the end!
Black Adam (DC) vs Gladiator (Marvel)
If Gladiator is confident, BA has no chance.
@@dcabner1wrong, if Gladiator is confident, that *gives* him a chance
@@Ntimidation wrong gladiator no diggs
I love how Professor can easily freeze them leaving only the SW I think being alone.
I'm sure that if Jean pulls off what she did on Xmen Last stand the fight will also be easy where Wanda will be alive for the avengers and if she tries to say no more mutants we all know that Phoenix can easily bring them back. If she says no more Phoenix it won't happened because she can't do it alone without the help of the host.
Forgetting how cracked rouge is
Vision and Wolverine not being on the finals is crazy... but I do agree that it comes down to Wanda and Jean
Jean Grey as the dark phoenix alone would mop the avengers off the floor.
Scarlet witch?
@rastaewabeach she'd have to get pass Scarlet Witch first...and fast.
@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979agreed. Because if she's not fast enough, she won't get the opportunity to become the Phoenix.
@@bobitzathegodofcomedy5979dude…. Hawkeye beat her…..
@rastaewabeach That happened mearly a decade ago when she was nowhere near the level of today...nice try.
Don’t forget that storm can create storms and lightning in the vacuum of space
The real winner ars the writers.
Yea that is how it works they wrote it capt obvious 😂😂😂
So I think the best matchups you could do for Avengers vs X-Men would be to make the teams contemporary to the Uncanny X-Men run that saw the blue and gold teams while Avengers has East and West Coast teams. This would not only limit your rosters but also take Xavier out of the equation (as he was over the blue and gold teams without being part of either) while Jean Grey was without the Phoenix force and Scarlett Witch had not fully realized the extent of her powers. The best matchups then would be X-Men Blue vs Avengers East Coast and X-Men Gold vs Avengers West Coast.
Who would win if Avengers (MCU) fight Akatsuki from Naruto?
Akatsuki is faster than all the Avengers when it comes to speed, is like fighting Quike Silver with added abilities
@@JOKER-bl4rd lol
Itachi would solo most of the Avengers by himself..Pain would solo the avengers by himself ..
Well it's a tough fight bc while the Avengers have way higher AP, they don't really have any counter to genjutsu. There's also amaterasu and Itachi's susanoo's sealing. Let's not forget hidan as well. He seems weak but on a team, he's the most essential wild card bc he can basically one shot any opponent who doesn't have a healing factor like Hulk. Then there's obito. It would be srt of dependent on how their powers would interact w each other (eg. would Dr Strange be able to access obito's mangekyo dimension w his mystic arts? n stuff like that)
@@travisstatik2573 Aww look at bro thinking the avengers don't take out multiple world ending threats on the reg
I feel like magnetism is such a broken power to have it’s not fair
He’s anything but broken this guy literally controls the electromagnetic force the second strongest force in the universe
Well Some of the X-Men been avengers
Never seen any X-Men in the MCU
@@Elstuderino who said anything about the MCU, and someone didn't see Deadpool & Wolverine
@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD What X-Men were Avengers in Deadpool and Wolverine? His list is MCU Avengers Vs Fox X-Men.
@@Elstuderino you said you didn't see any X-Men in the MCU Which is wrong because Quicksilver and. Scarlet Witch were in the MCU since 2015, and Now Deadpool & Wolverine & others, and Scarlett Witch & Quicksilver became Avengers
@@XZAVIER-DAA-GOD Scarlet Witch and Quick Silver never became X-Men in the MCU. No X-Men on screen have become Avengers.
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brother this needs no explanation, dormammu wouldn't even come close
LT wins
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DanCo must not watched Dr. Strange: Multiverse of Madness. Wanda killed Professor X with ease.
He literally said that in the video. Did you even watch?
LoL 😂@@jacksonmahomes119
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It really isn’t. Jean turns them into dust in seconds. Cyclops disintegrates them in seconds. Wolverine cuts their heads off in seconds or tires them out while he heals to the point that they have an heart attack because they in fact can’t do this “all day” similar to Wonder Woman in Justice league doom, the way Batman had it planned to stop her despite being how strong she is. Or Storm could drop the temperate below zero & make the entire avengers die of the cold like Jack Torrance in the Shinning.
Scarlet witch?
I mean it really depends if you are going strongest version of them, movie version etc. if you do strongest versions avengers win all day
rune king Thor or rune king with cosmic energy Thor fucks everyone up.
World breaker hulk fucks every xman up.
Scarlet witch at her highest ramp can fuck everyone up just taking their powers away.
The hulk literally handled all x men in comics, so it depends of the version
So Jean in the Phoenix in this scenario, because Jean herself doesn't know how to do that without the Phoenix.. and the Phoenix isn't a true X-Man.
Dude is talking like Thor and Hulk Don't Exist ☠️, Cyclops and wolverine ain't shit in front of these 2, Jean is the only one that can beat them, that too is only if she has the Phoenix Force
Do Captain Marvel (MCU) vs Wonder Woman (DCEU)
Nobody's messing with the Phoenix!
I know this is the MCU Avengers, but let's not forget what Scarlett Witch did to Mutants in the comics with just three words.
"No more mutants"
It all comes down to the writer.
hulk or thor single-handedly beat the xmen :)) .
😂😂😂 Phoenix would solo the Avengers. Add Magneto and those two win mid diff.
@@patricklafontaine5969 Phoenix is a host, we are not talking about outside forces. Phoenix can even be in Hulk. That's how I could say Toba Immortal Hulk... We're not talking about the hosts, we're talking about their current form.
@@CopaceanuIonutBobi obviously Im talking about Jean Grey phoenyx.
@@patricklafontaine5969 There are 2 different identities, the Phoenix can be in anyone, it is a cosmic power, it existed before Jean Gray, it will exist after her death. We strictly refer to the singular identity, that is, only to Jean Gray. That's why I didn't say Toba Hulk either, because Toba is a different entity.
@@CopaceanuIonutBobi There's a huge difference between the two for many reasons. 1 we don't see Toba Hulk in live action . 2. The version of Jean Grey that we see in live action is way stronger than regular Jean. Also the Phoenyx has a connection to Jean Grey , she is the only person to access the full power of the phoenix. So yes the host can be anyone but so will it's power level.
Doctor Strange isn't an Avenger he is a Defender by group affiliation.
Comic book Ice Man is an Omega level mutant. This video seems to only reference the movies/series.
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I do think it's a close battle but honestly the x-mens big hitters stomp the mcu big hitters
The movies really do storm dirty. She is more on par with Thor than you think.
Dark Phoenix is my favorite Marvel Universe hero! She is full of good deeds like…absorbing stars and destroying the systems inhabitants! Go Dark Phoenix!
Pfft!!! None of them could handle my BLUE FLAME CAPABILITY!!! Especially after a Taco Bell night!!! JS
I made the Hulk cry like a little B*tch
Professor x uses Cerebo to shatter all the avengers minds leaving them drooling vegetables crapping their pants.
Scarlett sends her doppelganger to their universe & casually takes them out without really being there
*doppelganger in their universe
I once read that professor x can't read hulk mind or shut it down due to the rage possessed by the hulk
The redheads must clash
I just hope the MCU does this exactly as it happens in the comics
Man, even though he’d be killed off with low difficulty, a few points off for leaving out Gambit
Ok hear me out this fight would be epic. I do agree with your out come but you forgot how strong Magnus and Xavier are there combos are very overwhelming.
The fight I want to see is black panther vs Batman
Panther easy
@@shotgun6160batman has taken down WAY stronger opponents than T'Challa.
Batman
Ice man and storm are omega level mutants. They don’t just wield their elements, they literally bend them to their will. Anything weather related, “The Storm” can manipulate in her favor and weaponize them. Ice man does the equivalent with ice.
Wow u did Iceman dirty... he is an Omega level mutant who can create ice clones of himself that essentially make him immortal as they share all his memories and knowledge
Doctor Strange was a bit downplayed here… Dr strange would beat thanos by himself, but he had to give the time stone to thanos, cause that was the only way to win the war. Imagine If dr strange shared the darkhold with scarlet witch. That would be a different story.
Hopefully Scarlet Witch could reason with her father Magneto and her brother Quicksilver before this fight even began. Once it did begin though, all it would take is a simple coordinated mass mind attack from Charles and Jean. Not even Thanos with all five infinity stones could survive that