Then in this world, DC sold their rights to their heavy hitters so they had to base their cinematic universe around the Justice League International, with the main members being Ted Kord/Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Black Canary, Green Arrow, Firestorm, and Shazam.
He did a video on that, where DC sold the rights to their biggest characters Superman Batman and Wonder Woman. He should definitely remake that video but make some changes
@@joelsilva699I saw that video, but I think it would be better if they sold the main Justice League members to various studios and have DC have to make a JLI focused universe
That almost happened. In 1998, Sony had a choice to either buy the film rights to Spider-man for a $7M or nearly every Marvel character except Spider-man for $25M; they chose the former. Then Sony said: "Nobody gives a damn about the other Marvel characters."
@RARARASPUTIN1914 it was a good call for the time though. Spider-man was always a heavy hitter. I'm not sure if the modern state of comic book movies could've been achieved without already massive franchises like Spider-man or X-Men getting movies to pave the way for it.
@sheepylee12 The original comic book Avengers roster like in Earth's Mightiest Heroes should have happened here. What a GOATed show, though. It was Marvel's version of the Justice League cartoons.
Same here. The number of movies could even be kept the same by having a Thor movie in 2011 and Cap 1 in 2012 before Avengers, with no "epilogue" movie to the Phase. Also, Black Widow and Hawkeye could still be in the movie. They are SHIELD agents, no need to establish them prior. No twins, Spider-man could stay or go.
Workaround: in Avengers 1, Thor is introduced as "Dr. Donald Blake," having amnesia from his exile and being revealed to have powers and helping the Avengers before going off on a journey to find out more about who he really is in the Thor movies in Phase 2.
Back in the days when Stan Lee would sell the rights to anyone, Howard the Duck came about because George Lucas found the comic while traveling. If Stan had all the rights for the characters and forethought to combine his and Lucas's merchandising, maybe he could've convinced Lucas there was a bigger market for the Superheroes and we would've got a Lucasfilm produced MCU in the 80's and 90's.
@@justice_productions_I mean, look at Star Wars. Not the best but Lucas was a smart guy, even the Star Wars prequels despite how much shit they get held up for years after compared to other CGI in Hollywood, I seriously doubt Lucas would do the effects poorly
I’ve seen many TH-camrs do this exact topic, wondering what the MCU would look like if they had the rights since the beginning but out of all of them, yours is easily one of the best executed universes I’ve ever seen. You were able to bring so many superheroes and teams and made it all work so well. Fantastic job.
2008: 2:34 Amazing Spider Man 3:09 X-Men 3:45 Hulk 2009: 4:11 Fantastic Four 2010: 4:49 Spectacular Spider Man 5:28 Iron Man 2011: 5:53 Incredible Hulk 6:10 Captain America The First Avenger 6:25 X-Men United 2012: 6:57 Avengers 9:08 Fantastic Four Into the Negative Zone 2013: 9:30 X-Men Apocalypse 9:57 Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man 10:34 Iron Man 2 2014: 10:51 Daredevil 11:40 Captain America Winter Soldier 11:55 Thor 2015: 12:15 Fantastic Four Rise Of the Silver Surfer 12:48 Avengers Age of Ultron 13:37 Blade 2016: 14:30 Planet Hulk 15:05 Avengers Vs. X-Men 16:12 Ghost Rider 2017: 16:47 Ultimate Spider Man 17:36 Daredevil And The Punisher 18:12 Captain America Brave New World 18:52 Iron Man Armor Wars 2018: 19:56 Thor Ragnarok 20:40 Doctor Strange 21:24 Avengers Infinity War 22:08 X-Men Dark Pheonix 2019: 23:05 Midnight Suns 24:00 Captain Marvel 24:10 Avengers Endgame 27:01 The Wolverine
This plus a thor movie in 2009 and prior spider man movie in 2006, also wolverine instead of daredevil, deadpool instead of daredevil 2 and logan instead of 2019 wolverine,, daredevil having his own tv show like irl
In total 37 movies And 12 tv shows 1_Brotherhood of mutants: 4 s 8 ep (2013) Agents of Shield: 3 s 10 ep Agent Carter: 2 s 8 ep Black cat: 1 s 8 ep 5_Daredevil: 3 s 10 ep Punisher: 2 s 10 ep Jessica Jones: 2 s 10 ep Luke Cage: 1 s 10 ep Iron fist: 1 s 8 ep Defenders: 1 s 8 ep Moon knight: 1 s 8 ep 12_Inhumans: 1 s 10 ep (2019)
I find it funny how even in a universe where marvel was allowed to use Cpt.Marvel, the plot-line where Rouge absorbs Carol’s powers still never happens and she presumably falls into the background of both the X-men films & the wider MCU.
You didn't need to take out Hawkeye.. considering the fact he was first introduced then, and Thor is part of the Avenger's trinity in the comics (Cap, Iron Man, Thor) and he should've gotten a movie before
Not having Thor in the 2012 Avengers movie in this world could be similar to how the Avengers didn’t debut with Cap, Iron Man, and Thor in the first issue in 1963 with Cap appearing in issue 4
@@joelsilva699 Yea but Cap's part made sense, he was frozen in ice, this just purposely chooses not to incorporate Thor as a founding member which is silly
I feel like this would have been a good opportunity to have the original comic book accurate Avengers roster with Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Ant-Man and the Wasp with Captain America being there too since his movie already came out. This roster feels kinda weird for the very first Avengers movie in this universe. Maybe it could work in the sequel, but it's definitely not here.
@@SecretMagicianagreed. It’s odd to me how the guy in the video says that Ant-Man and the wasp won’t get a movie because they aren’t popular, but he still gives Iron Man a movie. Which makes sense in the context of the fact that he’s kinda the face of the Avengers, but if Marvel is purely playing it safe like he implied, would they even bother to introduce Iron Man at all?
Heck... the MCU doesn't need to follow up the OG Avengers line-up at all i feel like. Not including Hulk in the initial roster could do so much storywise with him after Hulk 1 (For example... Age of Ultron can still happen, but with Hulk being captured by Ultron, whos mind get tampered with... basically creating anti-hero Hulk... which leads into its first confrontation with Thor later on in Thor and Hulk movie, which then leads into a whole World War/Planet/World Breaker Hulk until he becomes an Avenger. You don't even need to include Hawkeye and Black Widow on the original roster either... replace them with Ant-Man and the Wasp and replace Hulk with Spider-Man. It would be way more interesting this way as well, since then you for example can also more of a dynamic team roster as well.
It's my understanding that the Ed Nortan recast was actually a rights issue, but not in the traditional sense. What I remember hearing is that Marvel wanted Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk from the start, but Universal was adamant that Ed Nortan should have the role. And following the Incredible Hulk, Norton didn't like that he wouldn't have any writing power in future installments, and chose to step away, allowing Marvel to recast him to Mark Ruffalo like they wanted originally.
That's a shame. I understand being hesitant over letting an actor in in that department, but I feel like Ed could've done so much for the Hulk character, especially compared to what we actually got
i would have released iron man a bit early, though still after spiderman and xmen, and iron man 2 with war machine and black widow alongside thor before the avengers 2012
@ThisisHuzaifa this should have been the original comic book Avengers members, Iron Man, Ant-Man, Wasp, Hulk, and Thor. It was the perfect opportunity to have them be in this version of the MCU, but he pulled a Snyderverse Justice League instead. Same thing with the X-Men. They should have been the First Class roster with Cyclops, Jean Grey, Angel, Beast, and Iceman, but he didn't do that either.
I would have keep Thor with this be his introduction movie. Loki would still be the main villain and the first Thor movie would be a mix of Thor and Thor the Dark World. I also don't think Spider-Man should be a founding member. I would probably make him an Avenger here but then leave because "save the world" type of missions aren't his thing. For the last two members i would either keep Black Widow and Hawkeye (with this movie as their official debut) or Ant-Man and Wasp. Even if using Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver didn't bother much to me.
i would make deadpool the only tv show and have it be a way to recap all mcu projects. so people can go ''hmm i'm gonna watch the new movie and want to prepare. i can watch all 34 movies before this one or i can just watch this episode of deadpool.''
Deadpool could easily be a tv show. Most of what makes deadpool deadpool is that we see him to regular every day things. You could easily stretch out a story for deadpool through a multi season tv series
I always thought that if The X-Men and Fantastic 4 were present during the snap, all the X-Men but Wolverine would be dusted and the Fantastic 4 but Johnny and Ben would be dusted.
yeah nah they wouldn't strip that amount of the x-men, just look at house of M in which still kept a couple mutants around and it was with the help of dr strange and emma frost to help prevent it affecting everyone
Pretty sure there’s a comic book with that premise where characters from each world were mixed with their counterparts from the other world (e.g. thanos and darkseid being thanseid)
@nopizza4you It was the Amalgam Comics that did that, yes. There was also other amalgamations such as Darkclaw (Batman + Wolverine), Super Soldier (Superman + Captain America), Iron Lantern (Green Lantern + Iron Man), and way more!
I mean... honestly... in the MCU... it doesn't really matter anyways (Hakweye/Black Widow aren't founding members in the comics for example... heck Black Widow didn't even join until the 1970s, when Hawkeye was already on the team in the 1960s).
@@nickdentoom1173yeah but the difference is those two characters were pretty cemented as avengers through tv shows and with them having little to no other affiliations
Even before the MCU Thor was one of the big 3 of the Avengers, regardless they would’ve given him his own movie before the avengers and he would’ve been on the team, Loki was even their first villain in the comics so there would be no reason not to include him. Also Guardians and Ant-man would’ve still happened more of less when they did, Ant-man was still a known character and that movie was in developed during the early days of the MCU and Guardians was obscured even by MCU standards and was chosen to be given a movie as an experiment and to cash in on the Star Wars void, them having all the rights wouldn’t have changed that.
I feel like nor enough people understand that Avengers initially were created because the characters by themselves were never big enough to sell books by themselves, putting them together and adding Hulk who was by far the most popular one was just an attempt to save them as characters. But a lot of series later this obviously changed and if team was formed in the 10s it would have a completely different roster.
chances are hulk would have been fine with or without the avengers.......and the fact that he split on the team after the 2nd issue or so is proof of that he works better solo or as kind of chaotic neutral character that fights villains and heroes depending on the situation....if the avengers formed in the 10s it would depend if they would treat like the JLA as bendis did grabbing the most popular characters from other franchises as well some more unknown characters or would they take side characters that don't really have stable home franchises like that and pool them together as the avengers basically did and form a team out of them....for example wolverine and spiderman were added for popularity sake both one had a team he was already well established with and the other was the most popular solo hero who was already a franchise to himself....there additions only served to make the avengers more popular not vice versa
Another thing that could happen in Endgame is Spidey killing someone because of the Venom suit, and then the guilt he feels could be explored or expanded on in his next movie, allowing Miles to be introduced as a sort of recovery method for Peter. Just a thought though
This was a great video! Well done. There is a few things I disagree with and I would change, but yeah. But I hope you see this: Please make a part 2 for the next saga! Thank you!
I hate How people act like the Avengers were never popular and only became popular bc of the MCU and act like the X-Men were always popular when that wasnt the case. infact their debut series was so bad that it got cancelled and for like 10 Years Spider-Man, FF4 and the Avengers were the Faces of Marvel and it wasnt until 1975 where the X-Men started to become more popular but they still werent massively well known. and it wasnt until the 90s and X-Men TAS where they started to become more mainstream and the Avengers while still popular were losing popularity. it wasnt until after Marvel had sold their films rights to their biggest characters where they started to push the Avengers more into the mainstream during the late 90s and 2000s and people were genuily excited for the Avengers Movie once EMH came out. most heroes/characters become popular bc of Movies and TV Shows so the argument that ''the Avengers were only popular bc of the MCU'' is stupid.
I feel like you're not getting the point, when people that the Avengers weren't popular while the X-MEN were, they don't mean that it was ALWAYS like that, since their birth, instead, we're looking at a specific time frame. People who got to follow the MCU as they grew up discovered it's characters along with it, but they already knew the X-MEN, Spidey and The Hulk
@@TreFKennedy spiderman being the sole success that along with a 90s show had prior shows that predated 90s x-men. spider-man is probably the most universally liked unlike all other avengers and x-men where it's clearly specific in timeframe
All these movies would have the MCU title names for the most part. Phase 1: Iron Man, Fantastic Four, Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America, Spider-Man, X-Men, Antman, The Avengers. Phase 2: Iron Man 3, Fantastic Four 2, Incredible Hulk 2, Thor 2, Captain America 2, Black Widow, Spider-Man 2, X-Men 2, Guardians of the Galaxy, Antman 2, The Avengers 2. Phase 3: Fantastic Four 3, Guardians of the Galaxy 2, Black Widow and Hawkeye, Spider-Man 3, Captain America 3, X-Men 3, Dr Strange, Black Panther, Thor 3, Avengers 3, Captain Marvel, Antman and The Wasp, Avengers 4, Spider-Man 4. Phase 4: Wandavision, Falcon and The Winter Soldier, Loki, Hawkeye, Shang Chi, Incredible Hulk 3, Thor 4, Venom, Spider-Man 5, Dr.Strange 2, Black Panther 2, Ms.Marvel. Phase 5: Antman and The Wasp 2, Guardians of the Galaxy 3, Secret Invasion, The Marvels, Loki S2, Deadpool and Wolverine, Captain America 4, Thunderbolts. Phase 6: Fantastic Four 4, Spiderman and Wolverine, Blade, Moon Knight, Daredevil, Luke Cage and Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, The Punisher, Agatha All Along, Armour Wars, Shang Chi 2, X-Men 4,Avengers 5, Dr.Strange 3, Avengers 6.
24:33 i respect your perspective, there’s no universe where The Avengers are more over than the X-Men had marvel had the film rights from the beginning
Imo this is kinda all over the place. I think Phase One should've kept the same, introduce the Avengers but include Spider-Man as well. Introducing three teams at once is kinda convoluted especially given that the MCU in the early days wasn't THAT confident. Making it more linear, tell an enclosed story about The Avengers formation. Then introduce the X-Men in the next phase and in place of GotG introduce the F4. Make the last Phase Two movie a team up between Avengers and X-Men so that we only have 2 storylines (Avengers and F4) instead of 3 totally disconnected team storylines
Yeah, it feels weird having a Mix of real world MCU movies kinda being dragged out of their context and put intanother universe. I feel like changing some of the real world movies to match the fake ones would have worked better. There are some cool ideas though such as Red Skull as an Avengers villain.
Bro, you’re not understanding. The MCU only actually starts happening because of iron man in this version. The Xmen and Spider-Man would without a doubt get a first movie, after Ironman and hinting at something more than their confidence would blow up. You’re underestimating the popularity of the Xmen and Spider-Man, and if Ironman blows up like in our universe too the floodgates would open even more
While i do like this pitch i feel like Thanos wouldn't be the big bad right away, i feel like someone like Galactus or whoever was more popular than Thanos pre 2012 would have been the main villain.
@@adrianthearmorwarrior1605 IMO Doom should be that one villain who is always around and later becomes the main villain while first one should kinda be Galactus in my opinion, i would have made Thanos the villain later
@SlavaPalestineGaza What do you think of my MCU ideas? I posted this elsewhere but wanted to say it here, too. Personally, what I'd do is have the original Avengers members with Iron Man, Thor, Ant-Man, Wasp, and Hulk in the first Avengers movie with all of them having solo movies beforehand, but have Hulk leave the team after stopping Loki and in a post-credits scene, show the Avengers accidentially finding Captain America while looking for Hulk. Black Widow, Hawkeye, Vision, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver can show up in either solo movies or in future Avengers films as members. Ultron would be a Hank Pym creation which takes all his worst qualities into one being and creates Vision, and also creates the Masters of Evil to be his henchmen who would be some villains left unresolved from previous films like Justin Hammer as Titanium Man, Amora the Enchantress, Abomination, etc. This act leads to Hank quitting the Avengers at the end, which leads to his downward spiral of becoming Yellowjacket in an Ant-Man and the Wasp sequel (he wouldn't abuse Janet though). The first Ant-Man and the Wasp movie would be about them dealing with M.O.D.O.K. and A.I.M., with the second one after Age of Ultron with Hank as Yellowjacket, be about Scott Lang stealing the Ant-Man suit. The events of that film would lead to Hank quitting active superheroics and being Scott's guy in the chair from now on with him also getting therapy. The X-Men would have the First Class roster with Cyclops, Beast, Jean Grey, Angel, and Iceman with Magneto and the Brotherhood being the villains (Toad, Mystique, Juggernaut, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch), basically adapting the TH-cam, SUPER FRAME's X-Men film ideas. The Fantastic Four can stay the same with Sue not being played by Jessica Alba (it's clear she was cast just for fanservice when you think about it) and Chris Evans not be Johnny since he'll be Captain America, and adapt that unused longer, more action packed and dramatic script from 1996 by Michael France, with Doom making a molecular alteration machine and a giant continent spanning hurricane in the last act. An Incredible Hulk sequel would have Hulk on the run with the Leader as the villain, but the secondary villains would be Weapon X soldiers which are Wolverine, Sabretooth, Omega Red, Deadpool and Lady Deathstrike tasked by Thunderbolt Ross to find Hulk. Wolverine would leave the team to help Hulk in stopping the Leader's gamma mutant plans in the third act while the other Weapon X members would get brainwashed, mutated, and eventually escape after stopping the Leader (this combines the Hulk vs. Wolverine animated movie and the Gamma World two-parter from Earth's Mightiest Heroes with Wolverine taking Hawkeye's place in that film). A post-credits scene would show Wolverine being recruited by the X-Men setting up the Giant-Size X-Men roster in that movie's sequel. The overarching villain of this version of the first three phases wouldn't be Thanos because it would feel a bit derivative of what we actually have, so it would either be Dr. Doom, Galactus, or Surtur instead. I've come to the conclusion that the replacement for Infinity War and Endgame that serves as the complete MCU crossover events would be a combination of Secret Invasion with Dark Reign. From Phase 2, we get various hints of other characters involved in this secretly being Skrulls having taken them hostage and replaced them and a Secret Invasion movie would be the resolution to this. With the world in shambles afterwards, Doctor Doom takes advantage of this and becomes a public hero, creating a new team called the Thunderbolts to replace the Avengers as they are split up while the X-Men and Fantastic Four (especially the X-Men) are disillusioned and divided as well. Meanwhile Thanos would be pushed into a Phase 5 or 6 villain. This would be where, just like in the comics (if I'm not wrong), barely anyone aside from space faring characters like the Guardians of the Galaxy, Nova Corps, Shi'ar, Kree and the Skrull know about him until he snaps the Infinity Gauntlet and half the universe disappears. This would do a lot, give us a proper comic book, accurate Avengers, Fantastic Four and X-Men roster and tone, build up all three teams and the characters involved in an interesting way, and finally give us that Wolverine vs. Hulk fight we've always wanted. The other characters I didn't talk about here, like Spider-Man, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, etc, can show up the same, like in this video, though.
@@SecretMagician In my MCU I also have the Avengers form with the original Avengers team + Captain America. They would fight Loki in Avengers 1. I also introduce Wolverine in his own solo movie to introduce the X-Men but he is not part of the Avengers. I think I would make it a multi-time period movie and show Logan as soldier before the modern-day. I would introduce Hawkeye & Black Widow in their own movie before Avengers 2. In Avengers 2 the main villain would be MODOK & AIM. I'd give Magneto a time period movie in WW2 and Scarlet Witch & Quiksilver their own movie before X-Men 2 which introduces the Brotherhood of Mutants. (In X-Men 1 they'd fight the Sentinels.) I would also make a horribly tragic arc about "The Fall of Ant-Man". In Avengers 3 (which involves the Inhumans & Fantastic 4), I would introduce Galactus as the main villain with Silver Surfer as well. I would need all three superhero teams just to show how much of a threat Galactus is. By the end of the movie, the Wasp, who is Janet van Dyne, would be in a coma. Janet's coma coupled with the threat of Galactus would give make Hank go crazy about building a suit of armor around the world (like MCU Iron Man). This leads to Ultron. Ultron destroys Oderstadt, which would the capital of my version of Latveria. Doctor Doom (who would have been introduced in the first Fantastic 4 as Reed Richard's academic rival) would have lost his family in this event. In the first Fantastic 4, Doom would be introduced as a troubled scientist trying to bring back his mother, but not necessarily a villain. I'd also touch on anti-Romani sentiments in Latveria after WW2 & how this also contributed to his mother's deal with Mephisto & then Doom's quest. After Doom found a family & became a Latverian diplomat & scientist, he would find some peace and forgive Reed. However, when Ultron kills Doom's family, Doom would be furious and would hate Hank Pym. Doom would also hate Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, and Reed Richards for not stopping Pym. This leads to Doom overthrowing the U.S. backed Latverian monarchy & renaming the new capital city of New Oderstadt to Doomstadt. Eventually, the Fantastic 4 & Avengers are sent to Latveria (leading to the X-Men, Defenders, & Inhumans hating the Avengers & Fantastic 4). Using his popularity among the Latverian people & the Avengers & Fantastic 4's morals, Doom makes it harder to kill him, using his tech & magic as well. Eventually, Doom kills Hank Pym & tells the Avengers & Fantastic 4 to leave Latveria or face nuclear war (Latveria is located in modern day Silesia in my MCU). At the end of Avengers 5, Janet wakes up & learns of Hank's death. I'd also have Scott Lang become the second Ant-Man much later down the timeline. For the X-Men I'd give them a five movies where their villains would be the Sentinels, then the Brotherhood of Mutants, then Apocalypse, then Cassandra Nova, then the Dark Phoenix where Professor X would die & lead to Cyclops becoming leader of the X-Men & him defeating the Inhumans in Inhumans vs. X-Men & then the X-Men being defeated & dissolved in Avengers vs. X-Men. The Fantastic 4 would have a trilogy where their villains would be Mole Man, Super-Skrull, and Annihilus. The Hulk would have 9 movies, with Hulk 1, Hulk 2, Hulk 3, Hulk & She-Hulk, Hulk & the Thing, Hulk vs. Red Hulk, Hulk vs, Wolverine, Planet Hulk, & World War Hulk. Hulk 1 would have Abomination as the villain, Hulk 2 would have Absorbing Man as the villain & Hulk 3 would have The Leader as the villain with Zzzax as a secondary villain created by The Leader. Hulk & She-Hulk could face off against a She-Hulk villain or a new villain or an old Hulk villain. Hulk & the Thing would have a massively juiced up Juggernaut as the villain. Hulk vs. Wolverine would lead to the Hulk being launched into space & lead to Planet Hulk & then World War Hulk. I'd have Wolverine as a founding member or early member of the X-Men, but Wolverine would also connect to the Avengers in many ways. In my MCU I'd have six teams: the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, the Defenders, the X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, and the Inhumans. I might include the Thunderbolts, but I don't see where I could fit them in in my MCU, maybe I could have a comedic film where the US sends the Thunderbolts in Latveria only to get absolutely massacred by Doom's army, or maybe I could have the Thunderbolts have a similar plot to The Suicide Squad. I would have 100+ movies & start with Iron Man & end with Scarlet Witch & Vision 2, a nice wholesome movie to cap off the cinematic universe/multiverse. Honestly, I like your MCU ideas and your more comic accurate Avengers. I also liked the way you envision Hank Pym's fall & redemption, I just wanted to make it more tragic and use it as set up to establish Doctor Doom's cunning and him not being a total villain as he is smarter than that. I also like your X-Men & Fantastic 4, although I personally would want to save Doom for an Avengers & Fantastic 4 film. I also like your Hulk but would want to use Wolverine as an X-Men member from the start, have Sabertooth be solely a Wolverine villain and also use Deadpool like in his movies and have him play as role in the MCU and have him also have movies with Gwenpool at the tail end of the MCU. I really like your ideas and wanting to give comic accurate tone & rosters.
@SlavaPalestineGaza your ideas sound really interesting, but could you please split it up into paragraphs? It was definitely a good read but a bit hard to follow because of how long it was, and splitting it up into segmented paragraphs could make it easier to read through.
Here’s my MCU so far. I don’t know where to put House of M or Thunderbolts tbh. Iron Man 1 Hulk 1 Wolverine 1 Thor 1 Captain America 1 (Red Skull & Madame HYDRA) Ant-Man & The Wasp 1 Avengers 1 (Loki) Spider Man 1 Wolverine 2 Fantastic 4 #1 (Mole-Man) Viktor Denikin is hurt & mutilated in an accident but, he recovers but is disfigured) Iron Man 2 Hulk 2 Gambit & Rogue Thor 2 Cyclops & Jean Grey Spider Man 2 Captain America 2 (Baron Zeno & Baron Strucker) X-Men 1 (Sentienels & rogue US general) Captain Marvel 1 Iron Man 3 Fantastic 4 #2 (Super Skrull) Spider Man 3 Blackbolt 1 Inhumans 1 Hulk 3 Colossus & Emma Frost Captain America 3 (Winter Soldier & neo-HYDRA) Hawkeye & Black Widow Avengers 2 (MODOK) Daredevil The Punisher Daredevil vs. The Punisher Spider Man 4 Magneto Scarlet Witch & Quiksilver Hawkeye & Black Widow 2 X-Men 2 (Magneto, Juggernaut & Evil Mutants) Iron Man 4 Hulk & She Hulk Luke Cage Elektra Iron Fist The Defenders Captain America 4 (Doctor Faustus, Batroc, Crossbones) Wolverine & the Beast The Hulk & the Thing (Juiced up Juggernaut) Spider Man 5 Black Widow vs. Elektra Medusa Inhumans 2 Armor Wars Wolverine 3 Rogue & Nightcrawler X-Men 3 (Apocalypse) Captain America 5 (Helmut Zemo & Arnim Zola) Thor 3 Spider Man & Daredevil Docto Strange 1 Captain Marvel 1 Avengers, Inhumans, & Fantastic 4 #1 (Galactus & Silver Surfer) (the Wasp put into a coma) Deadpool 1 Fantastic 4 #3 (Annhilius) Dr. Strange 2 Viktor Denikin 1 (Explains Dr. Doom’s origins & quest to free his mother’s soul from Mephisto, but how failed and was mutilated by his own technology, eventually putting his quest on hiatus after finding love and a family) Avengers 3: Age of Ultron occurs: Ultron gets created by Yellowjacket (Ant-Man who went crazy after the Wasp was put into a coma in a previous movie and after his hometown and parents were fatalities in a previous Avengers film. Yellowjacket is obsessed with protecting the world. Tony Stark & Bruce Banner agree to help, but even with their complexity and impulsivity, even they see that Ultron is not yet ready for use with tests showing Ultron comes to far too authoritarian solutions to problems. Ultron has secretly been learning from the Avengers database that humans are bad and starts resisting his pro-human programming. Yellowjacket doesn’t care and secretly releases Ultron without Avengers or US approval. He is desperate to defend the world. Ultron then turns on Yellowjacket and tries to kill him in secret. That fails, alerting the Avengers. Instead of pursuing, Ultron flees the scene and gets far enough away with enough robots to ensure his survival. Ultron eventually comes to the conclusion that humans are evil and must be destroyed. That only AI and machines were pure and and that they would have peace. Ultron creates Vision & Jocasta. Ultron enacts his plans launches massive cyberattacks absolutely destroying the world economy and distributing wealth at random, causing chaos all over the world. And causing massive accidents and failures in technology, leading to thousands dying. Ultron then enacts the final phase of his plan, using the capital of Latveria, Oderstadt, to destroy the world. Ultron does this, and the Avengers stop him. In the destruction of Oderstadt, the family of a certain Viktor Denikin are killed. Spider Man 6 Doctor Doom 2 - With the American Avengers causing the destruction of Oderstadt, the Latverian people call for the extradition of Yellowjacket. The US government, which has now put the neutral Latverian monarchy on life support, does not allow this. The people of Latveria are angry and are gunned down by the Latverian military. The genius weapons expert and Latverian diplomat, Viktor Denikin orchestrates the overthrow of the Latverian monarchy before the eruption of civil war in Latveria. He appeases the Latverian military and helps refugees from the destruction of Oderstadt. King Denikin changes his name to last name to Doom as anti-western propaganda. He names the new refugee city go Doomstadt and makes it the new Latverian capital. Avengers & Fantastic 4: War of Doom - Doom then calls for the extradition of Yellowjacket to Latveria. The US government tries to kill Doom and install a friendly leader, but this fails. Doom builds up the Latverian military and threatens to invade Germany, Poland & Czechia. With no resort other than sending in the Avengers, the US government does this and tell them to kill Doom. Yellowjacket was exposed by Doom to have released Ultron and exposed Stark for covering it up. A guilty Yellowjacket, now turned Ant-Man see the Wasp return from her coma. Stark tells Yellowjacket to stay back and not go to Latveria with the rest of the Avengers because Doom would target Ant-Man. The Avengers & Fantastic 4 go, souring relations with the X-Men & Inhumans. Doom & the Avengers are an equal match. The people of Doomstadt fight the Avengers, but because the Avengers don’t want to kill the people of Doomstadt, they struggle to defeat and get to Doom. This experience of the people of Doomstadt fighting the Avengers sows seeds for Civil War. Doom captures Ant-Man and kills him in front of the Wasp. The Wasp tries to kill Doom, and she is captured, but Doom decides to spare her. Doom tells the Avengers that they are free to go. The Avengers only facing the people of Doomstadt and Doom himself (with a reverse engineered successful Ultron system). The Avengers realize killing a figure as popular as Doom would both require more Avengers to die and turn Latveria against the Avengers. The Avnegers retreat and Doom wins. The government is angry and leave Latveria alone. After the Latveria scandal, the government officials involved with it are disgraced, with General Ross being fired (leading to Red Hulk). However, the Latverian Scandal does leave the US government skeptical about the loyalties of superheroes. And with the many crimes of the Avengers, a national debate forms around how much the government should control the Avengers. Hulk vs. Red Hulk Black Panther 1 Inhumans 3 Captain America 6 (Serpent Society) X-Men 4 (Cassandra Nova) Dr. Strange 3 Deadpool & Black Widow (Taskmaster) Hulk vs. Wolverine (Hulk launched into space by Professor X, Iron Man, Mr. Fantastic, Blackbolt, and Doctor Strange.) Guardians of the Galaxy 1 Blade 1 Spider Man 7 X-Men Dark Phoenix (Death of Professor X) X-men vs. Inhumans (Cyborg becomes leader of the mutants & destroy the Terrigen Mists, the Mutants win) Avengers vs. X-Men, after it is revealed the Phoenix force is still on affecting the mutants and after the events of Dark Phoneix, the Avengers are sent in to round up the X-Men and strong arm them to move into a territory in the desert and become a government team. After the Death of Professor X (due to Phoenix Force Jean Grey) Cyborg becomes leader of the team and refuses to give into this demand, saying it would ruin the progress of Professor X. The Avengers and Captain America are given the order to attack the X-Men. Cyborg and the X-Men declare war on the U.S. The Phoenix Force arrives and splits into 4 X-Men and into Namor, leader of Atlantis. Namor takes his army and floods Wakanda, bringing Wakanda & Atlantis into the US-X-men war. Eventually, the Avengers win and the X-men are defeated. Namor is replaced and arrested with Wakandan & American navy keeping tabs on Atlantis and having them pay reparations to Wakanda. In prison, Magneto tells Cyborg that he was right, demoralizing Cyborg and showing the tragedy of Professor X being wrong about humanity in some ways. Many X-Men are on the run, like Wolverine, and many X-Men are in prison. The events of Avengers vs. X-Men lead to a civil war… (the Avengers won) Black Panther 2 Moonknight 1 Ghost Rider 1 Spider Man 8 Deadpool & Wolverine Guardians of the Galaxy 2 Ms. Marvel Planet Hulk Spider Man & Deadpool Avengers Civil War: with the crimes of the Avengers and the the X-Men fighting the US, the US & the UN call for the Superhero Registration Accord. With Captain America holding the government’s usage of the Avengers against Doom & against the X-Men as evidence of being against the Accord & Iron Man using the X-Men action & the Yellowjacket’s activation of Ultron as evidence of being for the Accord. Team Iron Man: Wasp, War Machine, Black Panther, Mr. Fantastic, Dr. Strange, Invisible Woman, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Spider-Man, Captain Britain, Ms. Marvel, Luke Cage, Punisher, Wong, Scott Lang Ant-Man Team Captain America: Thor, She-Hulk, Human Torch, The Thing, Blade, Ghost Rider, Black Widow, Quicksilver, Captain Marvel, Moonknight, Falcon, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Wolverine, Winter Solider Captain Marvel 2 World War Hulk Spider-Man & Venom Black Panther 3 Guardians of the Galaxy 3 Infinity War The Sentry The Eternals Endgame (Human Torch, Wasp & Iron Man, & Hulk die) Guardians of the Galaxy 4 She Hulk Thor 4 Dr. Strange & Scarlet Witch (Mephisto, Multiverse is introduced) Ant-Man 2 Shang-Chi Young Avengers: Reign of Grey Gargoyle Iron heart Spider Man vs. Sinister 6 (Mile Morales is introduced) Iron Lad Avengers, Inhumans & Fantastic 4: Kang the Conqueror (Death of Spider Man, Captain America, Thor, & Wolverine) Spider-Woman Mighty Thor & Lady Thor Falcon & the Winter Soldier Spider Man 9 Young Avengers 2: Return of Grey Gargoyle Deadpool & Gwenpool Doctor Strange 5 (Multiverse of Madness) Man-Thing Captain America 7 (Falcon in the New Captain America) Spider-Man 10: Across the Spiderverse Spider-Man 11: Beyond the Spiderverse X-Men 5 (Cyclops becomes leader of X-Men again) X-23 Scarlet Witch & Vision Kree-Skrull War Captain Marvel 3 Secret Invasion Deadpool & Gwenpool 2 Secret Wars Deadpool & Gwenpool 3 Scarlet Witch & Vision 2
@@SlavaPalestineGaza while this does sound interesting, I feel like certain characters and projects could be introduced in series instead of films with multiple seasons in order to make things less cluttered and certain films could be cut because they either sound too fanfic-y or are somewhat unnecessary.
You should have added another Wolverine movie in 2019 where he goes through the events of the Wolverine but it’s a more R rated version as he deals with the grief of Jean, and at the end he gets his Hulk Vs Wolverine suit and is sucked into the events of Thor Ragnarok, finally giving us a face off of the two. That way the solo film after Endgame can be more about coming to peace with the death of Jean and not being apart of a team just being his own person while also becoming a father and finally having the perfect ending to his story.
This is really cool! I'd love to see a DC slate with this number of movies. Also, the only change I'd make is that Loki is still the villain of the first Avengers, and Thor is a member (he can be introduced there).
Yeah, I was about to say, the title & term "Ragnarok" isn't just used willy-nilly, as it has connections to Norse mythology. Asgard's destruction is kind of the whole point, as it's the realm of the Norse gods.
@@SecretMagician Oh yeah, no slight against him necessarily, as one can't know everything after all. And up until Love & Thunder ran the joke into the ground, non-hardcore Thor fans were more than content with him being turned into a surfer bro halfwit. Ah, the magic of Phase 3's pop culture dominance. 😜
I do think it would be interesting imagining how Spider-Man would confront the avengers about the Ultron situation. Obviously, they accidentally created a terminator, but even beyond that I don’t think would be fully cool with killing anyone. Maybe you could even plant the seeds of that in the first avengers movie where all the other avengers are perfectly fine turning the aliens into a pile of purple paste, but Spider-Man is the only one webbing them up and leaving them restrained but still alive. I could see Spider-Man saying something like “Look Ultron is nuts, but he has a point. We have been escalating things. We’ve been taking things too far. Are we really the heroes that we think we are?”
Yeah and they are canon in the MCU so there is a chance that they could’ve met phineas and ferb because they are also canon to the MCU because of the crossover I think
You should absolutely make a Part 2 to this! I absolutely enjoyed it! It made me feel like my dream as a 5-6 year old actually came true! It’s that good!
You could make a video on "What if Marvel had an animated universe similar to the DCAMU and Tomorrowverse?" Like instead of Flashpoint Paradox, it could have Quicksilver change the timeline. Have Howard Stark be Iron Man, a war between the Atlanteans and Wakandans. Then have the first Avengers movie, be them fighting against the Shatari and Thanos. The counterpart for Apokolips War could be a messy mix between Infinity Guantlet, Infinity War, and Endgame. For Justice Society WW2, it could be Quicksilver encountering the Invaders. For the Long Halloween, it could be a mix between Demon in A Bottle and Armor Wars. And to end the universe would be a Secret Wars 3-Part finale!
Great video man, but I believe there was a missed opportunity to do Hulk vs Wolverine which could have happened during the events of the earlier films or even during the events of Endgame.
@isthattc8413 I posted this elsewhere, but it still fits. Personally, what I'd do is have an Incredible Hulk sequel with Hulk on the run with the Leader as the villain, but the secondary villains would be Weapon X soldiers which are Wolverine, Sabretooth, Omega Red, Deadpool and Lady Deathstrike tasked by Thunderbolt Ross to find Hulk. Wolverine would leave the team to help Hulk in stopping the Leader's gamma mutant plans in the third act while the other Weapon X members would get brainwashed, mutated, and eventually escape after stopping the Leader (this combines the Hulk vs. Wolverine animated movie and the Gamma World two-parter from Earth's Mightiest Heroes with Wolverine taking Hawkeye's place in that film). A post-credits scene would show Wolvering being recruited by the X-Men setting up the Giant-Size X-Men roster in that movie's sequel.
At first, I was concerned it wouldn't be as popular in this universe even with an early Spider-Man being part of the Avengers...until you brought in Venom with the Black Suit. At that point, Venom alone would be dragging those butts to the seats.
Your vision of the MCU is great and it's almost the closest to the actual 616 Universe but i would have the first Spider-Man movie have Doc Ock as the main villain then the second one have Vulture and Electro who are sent by the King Pin (yes this is where i would introduce Fisk and Matt could make a cameo here) and in the third one, have Green Goblin be the main villain. Also i wouldn't kill off Wolverine early.
Just like movies, the video makes it out that Phoenix is EVERYTHING for X-Men even though X-Men have so much lore. A The X-Men movie saga ending with with their own nation of Krakoa would be perfect imo
I like this video, but I don't understand the reason for killing Angel (He literally appears in one movie, and in the comics the founder of the X-Men), Quiksilver and the Scarlet Witch. It was much more logical to give a solo film not to Captain Marvel, but to Wanda and make a film adaptation of House of M, where Quiksilver and Magneto died in the finale.
Just like how he didn't make this universe's Avengers the original roster with Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Ant-Man and the Wasp, he half-assed the X-Men too. They should have been the first class with Cyclops, Jean Grey, Iceman, Beast, and Angel. Wolverine could have been properly introduced (since he showed up in Captain America: The First Avenger) in the Hulk sequel with Thunderbolt Ross recruiting him and a bunch of other Weapon X characters like Sabretooth, Lady Deathstrike and Deadpool to hunt Hulk down. But Wolverine later chooses to team up with Hulk to stop the Leader's gamma mutant plans while the other Weapon X members escape, including Deadpool, while in a post-credits scene, Wolverine gets recruited for the X-Men setting up the Giant-Sized X-Men roster in the future.
@@SecretMagicianYes, it would really be better to introduce the original team in the first film, then the situation with the Archangel and his death would at least be sad. Otherwise, in this version, ordinary viewers would not care about him. Also, your ideas are very cool.
Here is my version of MCU if they had all the rights from the begining: (Name of the saga: Doomsday Saga) (Which is including phase 1-3) Phase 1: Fantastic Four: First Steps Release Year: 2008 Main Villain: Doctor Doom Story: The story is the same as the real life Fantastic Four movie that came out in 2005. Details: In this movie we got to se the Fantastic Fours origin story and how they did became enimies to Doctor Doom and how they became worlds first public heroes. Reed and Sue are also planing a wedding that will be in a futurue movie. In the end they defeat Doctor Doom. Stark Industries are also introduced in this movie. Post Credit Scene: Victor Von Doom survives and begins working with a secret organization, and he is mentioning Stark Industries. The Amazing Spider-Man Release Year: 2008 Main Villain: Green Goblin Story: The story is the same as the real life The Amazing Spider-Man movie that came out in 2012. Details: This is a origin story of how Peter Parker becames Spider-Man. Peter gets bitten by a spider and the spider that bite Peter are not radioactive is just a spider with diffirent abbilities and the spider gave Peter the abilities. Harry Osborn is Peters best friend. In this movie Peter begins a relationship with Gwen Stacy. The first suit Peter Parker/Spider-Man will have in this movie are the same suit that was Peters beginner suit in the real life Spider-Man: Homecoming movie. The second suit Peter Parker/Spider-Man will have in this movie are the same suit that Peter used in the real life The Amazing Spider-Man movie that came in 2012. We also got to se Green Goblins origin story in this movie. In the end Spider-Man defeats Green Goblin. We also got to se in the end that Harry that is Peters best friend, Harry swears that he will kill Spider-Man beacuse Harrys dad that are the Green Goblin/Norman Osborn are now in prison. Harry wants to kill Spider-Man but he doesnt know that Peter Parker are Spider-Man. In this movie Uncle Ben dies and Aunt May discovers Peters identity. Also Norman does not dies in this movie he is sent to prison and will not return maybe for a small scene. Post Credit Scene: Peter watches on TV that mutants are public to the world. X-Men Release Year: 2008 Main Villain: Brotherhood of mutants which is including Magneto, Mystique, Juggernaut, Toad and Sabretooth Story: The story is the same as the real life X-Men movie that came out in 2000. Details: The lineup for the X-Men in this movie are Cyclops, Jean Grey, Wolverine, Beast, Storm and Nightcrawler and Charles as the mentor. In this movie we got to se Cyclops, Storm and Nightcrawler origin story and their origin story are the same as the real life X-Men: Apocalypse movie. Also Ice Man, Pyro and Kitty Pryde are introduced in this movie but not in the lineup. In this movie we got to se how Charles loses his hair. We also got to se how Jean and Cyclops relationship begins. In this movie the X-Men will wear black suits. Also in the end the X-Men takes down the Brotherhood of mutants and the Brotherhood of mutants gets in prison. Also William Stryker will have a small role in this movie. And in this movie mutants get public to the world. Post Credit Scene: Professor X/Charles are playing chess with Magneto in a prison for Magneto. The Incredible Hulk Release Year: 2009 Main Villain: Emil Blonsky (Abinamitaion) Story: The story is the same as the real life The Incredible Hulk movie that came out in 2008, and this is not an origin story. Details: The first scene in this movie is a flashback and it is set between the Fantastic Four: First Steps movie and The Amazing Spider-Man movie. In that scene we got to se how Bruce Banner becames Hulk. The rest of the movie takes place 2 years later and it is about bruce being on the run from the military. In this movie we got to se how Emil becomes Abinamitaion and we also got to se how Bruce learns how to controll his Hulk powers. In the end it is a fight between Hulk and Abinamitaion and Hulk wins. Post Credit Scene: In the post credit scene we see a shadowy figure in a lab. This figure is revealed to be Samuel Sterns, the man whose head swells in the movie’s climax, hinting at his transformation into the Leader. Sterns is seen watching footage of the Hulk, and he begins to laugh quietly to himself as he mutters, “This is just the beginning.” This sets up the Leader as a future villain for the Hulk. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Release Year: 2010 Main Villain: Doctor Octopus Story: The story is the same as the real life Spider-Man 2 movie that came out in 2004. Details: Peter has now completed high school and its starting to job as a photografer at the Daily Bugle. This movie is set a few months after the first The Amazing Spider-Man movie and before The Incredible Hulk. In this movie Peter will struggle to be Spider-Man and have a job at the same time. He will quit being Spider-Man beacuse it is to hard to be Spider-Man and have a job at the same time. Later in the movie he remembers the words uncle Ben said before he died. ”With great power comes great responsibility.” When Peter cames back as Spider-Man he creates the suit he had in the real life The Amazing Spider-Man 2 that came out in 2014. Otto Octavius will have a big roll in this movie. Ottos goal is to create more power and feel more power. He takes it to far and it goes wrong and it gains dangerous to people. In the end he has gone to far that he want to destroy the whole city. But in the end Spider-Man confronts him and Otto sacrifices himself and dies. The name Doctor Octopus in this movie is created from the Daily Bugle. In this movie Peter and Gwen gets together and becames a couple. MJ is introduced. And Harry hates Spider-Man more and more. Post Credit Scene: A piece of symbiote gets loose on Earth Iron Man Release Year: 2010 Main Villain: Obadiah Stane (Iron Monger) Story: The story is the same as the real life Iron Man movie that came out in 2008. Details: The actor for Rhodey in this universe will be Don Cheadle all the time. MK 1-3 are introduced in this movie. MK 1 is the one he uses to escape the cave and MK 2 is the first suit with JARVIS in it and the suit is silver and MK 3 is the first red suit he makes. Post Credit Scene: The same as the real life Iron Man movie that came out in 2008, Nick Fury introduces the avengers initiave. Wolverine: Origins Release Year: 2011 Main Villain: William Stryker Story: The story is the same as the real life X-Men: Origins Wolverine movie that came out in 2009 but Deadpool are not in this movie. Details: This movie is set in the 1970s. In the begining of the movie we se Wolverine being on wars through time. In one of the scenes Captain America makes a cameo. Deadpool are not in this movie. In this movie we got to se how Wolverine and Sabretooth from brothers becames enimies. The past Stryker had with Wolverine in the real life X-Men: Origins Wolverine movie that came out in 2009 will not be the same here. Instead it is Strykers dad that has the past with Wolverine under the wars but after the wars it is William Stryker that has a past with Wolverine. Cyclops and Charles are not included in this movie. In this movie we got to se Emma Frost origin story. Post Credit Scene: Sabretooth joins the Brotherhood of mutants. Set in mid 2000s. Captain America: The First Avenger Release Year: 2011 Main Villain: Scmitt (Red Skull) Story: The story is the same as the real life Captain America: The First Avenger that came out in 2011. Details: This is a origin story of how Steve Rogers becames Captain America under WWII. In this movie Captain America introduces two New suits. The first suit is the beginer suit with a shield that is not round and that are in the comics the second suit has a round shield. In this movie Wolverine makes a cameo. Red Skull will return in the next movie. Post Credit Scene: Steve Rogers wakes up in the present day. Nick Fury approaches him, handing him a file labeled “Avengers Initiative.” This would mirror the original post-credit scene but adds more focus on Captain America’s struggle to adjust to modern life. The Avengers Release Year: 2012 Main Villain: Red Skull Story: The story is the same as the real life The Avengers movie that came out in 2012. Details: Red Skull survives from the Captain America: The First Avenger movie by the tesseract and has time traveled to the present. The lineup for the Avengers are Iron Man, Captain America, Spider-Man, Hulk, Ant Man and the Wasp. Captian Americas suit in this movie are the same as the real life The Avengers movie that came out in 2012. Ant Man and the Wasp are introduced in this movie. Iron Man MK 4-7 are introduced in this movie. MK 4 is the same as MK 3 but a better version and upgraded. He did the suit beacuse MK 3 got damaged after the fight against Iron Monger in the Iron Man movie. MK 5 is the suitcase suit that are in a bag. MK 6 can shoot laser and is inspirred by the first suit that was in the real life The Avengers movie. MK 7 is an upgraded version from MK 6 and it is inspired by the second suit in the real life The Avengers movie. Post Credit Scene: Victor Von Doom is shown in his lab studying footage of the Avengers’ battle against Red Skull. He muses, “If they could bring the world to its knees… imagine what I could do.” This connects back to his survival in Fantastic Four: First Steps and teases his return as a major villain in Phase 2 or 3.
Here are part 2 (phase 2) on my version of MCU if they had all the rights from the begining: (Part one took out of letters so here is part 2:) (The actors for all characters:) (The actors for the Fantastic Four and Doctor Doom are the same as the real life Fantastic Four movie that came out in 2005 and all the rest in that movie except for Johnny Storm and Reed Richards. The actor for Reed are the actor that played him in the real life Doctor Strange in the multiverse of Madness movie that came out in 2022. The actor for Johnny are Zack Efron. All the actors in the X-Men movie will be the same as the real life X-Men: Apocalypse movie except for Ice Man, Kitty Pryde and Pyro. The actors for them are the same as the real life X-Men movie that came out in 2000. The actors that played Norman and Harry in the real Spider-Man movie that came out in 2002 will play them in The Amazing Spider-Man. The rest in that movie are the same as the real life The Amazing Spider-Man movie that came out in 2012. Mark Ruffalo will play Hulk/Bruce all the time. Also Don Cheadle plays Rhodey all the time. All the other characthers that I has not mention or people that will play future characters are actors that has played that character in real life or just an other actor.) Phase 2 of the Doomsday Saga: Fantastic Four: The Negative Zone Release Year: 2013 Main Villain: Annihilus Story: Set directly after the first movie and they need to travel to the negative zone to save the city. Details: After the fight in the first movie against Doctor Doom, the city is damaged of all the elactry Doom has caused to the city. The Fantastic Four need to travel to the negative zone to save the city. When they are in the negative zone Annihilus is there and make it hard for them he is the main villain. In the end they have comed back to earth and the mission has been failed. And also time moves more quickly in the negative zone so when they come back the events of The Avengers movie already has happend. Also The Fantastic Four defeats Annihilus in this movie. Through teamwork and ingenuity, the Fantastic Four manage to defeat Annihilus. However, they discover upon their return that time in the Negative Zone moved much faster than they anticipated and when they comeback, the events of The Avengers have already happend, and the world has changed. Despite their victory over Annihilus, the team is disheartened to learn that their mission to stabilize Earth’s energy grid has ultimately failed. Post Credit Scene: Galactus is rising. X-Men: First Class Release Year: 2013 Main Villain: Sebastian Shaw and the Hellfire Club including Emma Frost Story: The same as the real life X-Men: First Class movie. Details: This movie follows the origin of the X-Men set in 2000. The story revolves around young Charles Xavier (Professor X) and Erik Lensherr (Magneto), as they come together to form the first group of X-Men. The main antagonist, Sebastian Shaw, leads the Hellfire Club, a group of powerful mutants seeking to dominate the world. The X-Men must confront Shaw and his team to prevent a nuclear war. Emma Frost, as a member of the Hellfire Club, plays a crucial role in manipulating events. The movie focuses on the origins of Charles Xavier, Erik Lensherr (Magneto), Raven Darkhölme (Mystique), Hank McCoy (Beast), and the formation of the X-Men team. We see how they meet and how Magneto and Professor X’s relationship begins to deteriorate due to their differing ideologies. All other characters that are in the first X-Men movie will not be in this movie for an example Cyclops. In the end the X-Men defeats Shaw and the Hellfire Club. Shaw dies and Emma Frost gets in prison and will not return. Also in this movie we got to se how Magneto, Toad and Mystique gets evil. Also Stryker makes cameo. We also got to se how Charles gets in a wheelchair. And the suits in this movie is the same as the real life X-Men: First Class movie. Post Credit Scene: Stryker is revealed to be a future main villain of an X-Men movie. The Amazing Spider-Man 3 Release Year: 2014 Main Villain: Venom and Electro Story: The story is the same as the real life Spider-Man 3 movie that came out in 2007 but Sandman is replaced by Electro. Details: In this movie we got to se Electros origin story and the Symbiote Suit. Spider-Mans Symbiote Suit will not return in a later movie. In this movie we got to se how Eddie Brock becames Venom. Harry and Gwen will discovers Peter identity. In the end Spider-Man defeats Venom and Electro but Gwen dies by Venom. Also in the fight between Spider-Man and Venom and Electro, Electros powers turn yellow, before that fight the powers was blue. Post Credit Scene: Harry Osborn, in a darkened room at Oscorp, stares at a prototype of the Goblin Glider and serum vials, signaling his impending transformation into the new Green Goblin. Iron Man 2: Iron Legion Release Year: 2014 Main Villain: Aldrich Killian Story: The same as the real life Iron Man 3 movie that came in 2013. Details: In this movie the Mandarin is excluded and we got to se how Rhodey becames War Machine. MK 8-42 is introduced in this movie and MK 42 is the main suit in this movie. In the end Aldrich Killian gets defeated and gets to prison and will not return. Post Credit Scene: Samuel Sterns (from The Incredible Hulk) is shown in a high-tech laboratory, now fully transformed into The Leader, his swollen head having grown to unnatural proportions. The Leader is seen working with a mysterious alien artifact, possibly a fragment of the Tesseract or some other advanced technology, manipulating it with his intelligence. A holographic image of Victor Von Doom appears in front of Sterns, saying, “You have the brain… but do you have the power?” The Leader smirks, his eyes glowing green as he responds, “Power will come… but knowledge, now that’s what will change the world.” This scene sets up The Leader as a powerful intellectual threat, hinting at his role as a potential villain for Hulk or the Avengers in the future. Captain America: The Winter Soldier Release Year: 2014 Main Villain: Alexander Pierce and The Winter Soldier Story: The story is the same as the real life Captain America: The Winter Soldier movie that came out in 2014. Details: Hawkeye and Black Widow gets introduced in this movie as SHIELD agents and will later join Avengers. Falcon gets also introduced in this movie. This movie will focus on Steve strugle to adjust the modern time. The suit he has in this movie are the same as the real life Captain America: The Winter Soldier movie that came out in 2014. The end is the same as the real life movie. Post Credit Scene: In a dark, abandoned location, Bucky Barnes, now the Winter Soldier, is seen walking down a hallway, clearly disoriented and confused. He opens a metal door to find a SHIELD facility with a file labeled “WINTER SOLDIER - PROJECT: REINTEGRATION.” Inside the file, there’s a photo of Steve Rogers. The scene ends with Bucky staring at the picture, his face conflicted. This teases the ongoing mystery of Bucky’s past and his potential return as a complex antagonist or ally. The Incredible Hulk: World War Hulk Release Year: 2014 Main Villain: The Leader Story: The Leader wants to controll the Hulk to destroy humanity. Details: This movie starts in 2014 but ends in 2015. In this movie, Samuel Sterns, now fully transformed into the super-intelligent villain known as The Leader, attempts to manipulate Bruce Banner/Hulk for his ultimate plan to eradicate humanity and create a world ruled by “superior intellects.” Using his advanced mind and stolen SHIELD technology, The Leader builds a device to enhance his mental capabilities and aims to control the Hulk as a weapon of mass destruction. Bruce Banner, struggling to maintain control of his dual identity, must confront both the immense physical challenges of battling The Leader’s minions and the psychological warfare of being used as a tool for destruction. As the movie progresses, Bruce comes to terms with his identity, realizing that the Hulk is not just a curse but also a part of who he is. In the climactic battle, Hulk faces off against The Leader, who uses his enhanced intelligence and advanced technology to outwit and overpower him. However, Bruce’s determination, combined with the raw strength of the Hulk, ultimately overwhelms The Leader’s plans and in the end The Leader is defeated and sent to prison and will not return. Also Betty Ross are not in this movie but Thunderbolt Ross are in this movie. Also A-Bomb (Rick Jones) are introduced in this movie and will have a big role in this movie but in the end A-Bomb sacrifices himself and dies to save everyone. Post Credit Scene: In a dimly lit laboratory, Victor Von Doom is seen studying blueprints of advanced gamma technology and footage of the Hulk’s battle with the Leader. He mutters, “Raw power like this… a force of chaos waiting to be harnessed. Perhaps it’s time the world met true order.” As the camera pans out, a glowing containment unit is revealed, holding a fragment of gamma-irradiated material. The screen fades to black with Doom’s voice ominously saying, “The pieces are coming together.” This scene teases Doom’s growing involvement in the Doomsday Saga and sets the stage for a potential clash with Hulk or the broader team of heroes.
Here are part 2 on phase 2, of my version if MCU had all the rights from the begining: (It took out of letters on the previous part so here is part 2 on phase 2:) Blade Release Year: 2015 Main Villain: Deacon Frost Story: The story is the same as the real life Blade movie that came out in 2015. Details: The actor for Blade are the same as the real life actor that will play him in the upcoming real life Blade movie. In this movie we will get flashbacks from when Blade was young and his origin. Post Credit Scene: The post credit are the same as the real life Iron Man 2 movie that came out in 2010 except that Agent Coulson will not be in the post credit scene in this movie, instead Maria Hill will be there instead because Agent Coulson died in The Avengers movie. This scene teases Thors hammer in earth, this teases that Thor will come in this universe. Daredevil Release Year: 2015 Main Villain: Kingpin/Fisk, The Punisher and Leland Owlsley Story: The story is the same as the real Daredevil season 1 show that came out in 2015. Details: This is the origin of Daredevil, and how he in the end defeats Kingpin, Punisher and Leland Owlsley. Post Credit Scene: The camera pans over a dark, rainy street in Hell’s Kitchen. A mysterious figure watches from the shadows-his face concealed. He steps into a dimly lit alley, and as he approaches a crate, he pulls out a strange artifact-an intricately carved stone. The sound of a helicopter blade whirring grows louder, and the figure quickly hides the artifact, looking up to see a black-ops team approaching. One of the operatives turns to their leader, who says, “We have to stop them before they find the rest. Fisk won’t like it if we fail.” The leader is revealed to be Nick Fury, the man that created Avengers in The Avengers movie. Post Credit Scene 2: Elektra is introduced to be a future character of an Daredevil sequel/future movie. X-Men: United Release Year: 2015 Main Villain: William Stryker Story: The story is the same as the real life X-Men 2 movie that came out in 2003. Details: In this movie X-Mens suits is more colorfull with more yellow details. In this movie X-Men team up with Brotherhood of mutants to defeat William Stryker. In the end Stryker dies by Wolverine. Also in this movie Pyro joins Brotherhood of mutants and Rouge and Angel are introduced but not in the X-Men lineup. In this movie Mystique escapes from prison in some way and later in the movie takes out the Brotherhood of mutants from prison and thats how they escapes prison. Also in this movie Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are introduced as members of Brotherhood of mutants but in the end they join the X-Men. Post Credit Scene: The suits that the X-Men wears in the comics gets introduced. Thor Release Year: 2015 Main Villain: Loki Story: The story is the same as the real life Thor movie that came out in 2015. Details: Everything is the same as the real life Thor movie but with a few changes and in the end Loki dies and will never return and he is dead forever. Also his death will be much more emotional. Thors suit is the same as the real life Thor movie and in this movie it will be very grounded and realistic. Post Credit Scene: Hela is teased as a future main villain of an Thor movie.
I feel like it would be cool if there were movies that took place in between infinity war and endgame. A good idea for this is a movie where Hank Pym is depressed after the wasp vanishes, where he passes on the ant-man mantle to Scott Lang, while Pym himself becomes Yellowjacket
i don't think that the next saga should be the multiverse saga because the reason they did that was because they needed to bring in the xmen that way, but the xmen already exist in this world so
@kairaelstephen5788 maybe the next Saga could be the proper coming of Galactus since they drove him off instead of killing him in Rise of the Silver Surfer, and SS would also be dead, giving him another opportunity to have a new herald(s). But I feel like either Galactus or Doctor Doom should have been the overarching villains of this version of the MCU since it'd feel less disjointed and confusing in this universe TBH.
Can you PLEASE do a video on what a Spider-Man cinematic universe could look like? I know you did something similar for just the MCU, but this is something I’ve always wanted to see you do as it’s own thing with the infinity saga structure
I would’ve preferred if the og 6 roster of the avengers were to be Iron man Thor Hulk Ant-man Wasp Spider-Man Recruiting captain America at the end of the movie
Dude this is good …too good wait a minute are you a multiverse traveler?! Have you been to these worlds and that’s how you able to make these videos so good 🤯
I only didn't like that thor isn't a founder member, and could somehow put Ant-Man and wasp before avengers to make reference to the original formation from 60s. But anyway very nice
I had the idea that if Fox let Marvel use the Fantastic Four like Sony let them use Spider-Man, then Infinity War could have Sue tell Reed that she's pregnant and Reed is overjoyed. When Thanos snaps his fingers; Ben, Johnny, and Sue are turned to dust, with Reed being the only FF member left alive. Endgame would see him in a deep depression. More lonely and suicidal than Thor's mental and physical decline. He'd have grown a beard that he's sometimes shown with in the comics instead of his traditional clean-shaven look. He would be in Cap's group therapy session where we see how losing his family absolutely ruined him. He helps Tony figure out time travel (which would use the help of Wakandan Vibranium tech, leftover Pym Particles with Hank and Janet's shrink tech, Chitauri Energy Cores, and the imrpved Arc Reactor technology from Iron Man 2). He gets emotional seeing Tony's happy life with Pepper and Morgan and cries to himself after seeing what he almost had. Reed and Sue have a triumphant reunion in the final battle, similar to Hank finding Janet in the Quantum Realm in Ant-Man and the Wasp. Except this time it's more one-sided, as time seemingly never passed at all for Sue and she would comment on his new beard with confusion and he would just be so thankful to have her back. In the epilogue, we'd see the Four in a hospital room with a clean-shaven Reed holding his newborn son, Franklin, in his arms with tears of joy in his eyes. After so much pain in the past 5-6 years, he finally came out the other side a truly happy man.
Personally, I would have started with the Fantastic Four, the first family, and then have Spider-Man go to them like he does in his original Lee/Ditko comic origin, and start his friendship with Human Torch. This could also set up Doom early on to be a threat for a larger team up down the line. Then I would have done the X-Men and go from there. Edit: I’m sorry, Daredevil and Punisher should not be part of the Midnight Sons/Midnight Suns. They should definitely be a more strictly mystical team. Maybe Doctor Strange, Ghost Rider, Blade, maybe Wanda. But the villain should be Nightmare or Mephisto, since he seemingly wasn’t used for Ghost Rider, which is where I thought you were going with that. A darker team with Ghost Rider, Daredevil, Blade, Punisher, and Elektra could be Marvel Knights or something, but that feels like a misuse of the Midnight Sons.
i personally think that strange should be with the avengers, while acting as a nick fury of sorts for the midnight sons. not directly involving with them, just advising and uniting. and the main team would be: blade, ghost rider, moon knight, punisher, werewolf by night and man-thing. why punisher? he just works well in there. the ultimate outsider in a team otherwise full of supernatural creatures. daredevil, in my MCU, is with the new/secret avengers. a temporal team of unregistered heroes led by cap america. everything while the thunderbolts are active under command of the US government and general ross, and tony is still recovering from the hero massacre he caused with the civil war.
i have a question man (awesome vid as per usual btw), so until 2008 what marvel or even dc movies WOULD we have by then? i can't imagine every marvel movie pre 2008 not existing it's too surreal for me😢.
Good video and universe but I think you may have missed out one thing and that is where the mainstay villains of the X-men go after the sequel as it seems like Magneto and his brotherhood of mutants never show up again after Wanda and Quicksilver leave and join the Avengers. I know it’s too much to probably ask since this took a lot of time and planning but they are big characters at the end of the day. Also for Wanda’s no mutant spell, i’m pretty sure Dr. Strange and Emma Frost tried reversing that in the comics and it didn’t work however lets say at the beginning of the Dark Phoenix movie that Magneto and his brotherhood join up with the X-men after years of being M.I.A. to try and reverse Wanda’s spell after hearing about Jean unleashing the Phoenix and want to help and stop her but can’t do so without powers so they go to Dr. Strange who makes a cameo and with Emma Frost they actually succeed in the spell working and then that kicks starts the Dark Phoenix movie with the villains helping the X-men out til they too also get blipped away with only Magneto and like 1/3 of his brotherhood surviving the snap
One change I would make to this universe is that since you had the first Spider-Man movie basically be Raimi's Spider-Man 1 but with the TASM cast, that means that Harry exists in this universe. So I would have him take the place of Doc Ock in his subsequent appearances since Ock should already be dead, with Harry becoming New Goblin and killing Gwen in the 3rd movie and ultimately redeeming and sacrificing himself in Ultimate to save Peter from the Sinister Six.
I’m sorry but to me it would be much thematically stronger if after Infinity War Sue Richards is left pregnant with their daughter and taking care of Franklin after the blip with Reed disappearing instead. Reed in the comics loves his family but has a hard time showing it explicitly because he is always thinking about too many things at once. Having a five year distance between him and his kids would be much more of a heavy loss and setup another film or even a mini series with them where he tries to rekindle the dynamics in a more family oriented adventure, also it could have introduced Namor trying to get with Sue and her questioning her own wants and needs but ultimately reaffirming her love for Reed.
My Version of MCU Phase 1: Amazing Spider man X-men Incredible Hulk Iron man Captain america THOR The Avengers Phase 2: Spectacular spider man X-men: United Iron man: Enter The Mandarin Captain america: The Winter soldier THOR: The Dark world Avengers: Age of Ultron Phase 3: Planet Hulk Captain america: Civil War Blade Ultimate Spider-man Iron man: Armor Wars X-men: Apocalypse THOR: Ragnarok Doctor strange Avengers: Infinity war Avengers: Endgame
maybe in next video include inhumans, or have the likes of the guardians forming in a thor movie , and maybe expand on some defenders stuff and then introduce the champions and maybe she hulk etc
Maybe for future videos could show what a potential multiverse saga looks like for some of your videos like you did for your video on the DCU. The X men cinematic universe, Batman cinematic, if DC didn't have the rights to their biggest characters would all be great to see
Really awesome timeline and great vid well done :). And also if I were to write the mcu in the exact same situation in this vid with all the characters and starting at the same year, I would have the avengers be set up as the government’s response to the x men. Non mutant hero team with the secret purpose of protecting America from a mutant rebellion.
Great job man on making your version of the mcu with the movie rights it’s really good, especially with Spider-Man peter Parker and Mary Jane being married an having there daughter mayday Parker spider girl makes me so happy because I love that character she’s really awesome and badass in my opinion.
I think its too much a detriment removing some of these projects as a series like Daredevil and removing Guardians of the Galaxy. Daredevil worked better with the buildup and chance to flesh out characters, it wouldn’t be as great as a movie.
some of the changes i dont agree with (although understanding theyre prolly what marvel would have done in this world) but pretty good video overall man! keep it up
A bunch of people like to consider the X-Men and Spider-Man movies as part of the MCU cuz of their multiverse appearances. I personally think that’s not true at all cause it’s called the Multiverse for a reason
Watch Part 2 here:
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Part 3?
Why does it have a timestamp on it?
The fact that spider-man is an entire corner of marvel being one guy with the other corners being whole teams proves how amazing he is
Some would say he's Spectacular
@awsomesauc193 some would say hes ultimate
@@thegreatacolyt1277Others would say he's Sensational.
@@rashedulhaqueshimulSome others would say he's incredible (oh wait that's hulk)
@@Roty24-f6s some say hes superior
Then in this world, DC sold their rights to their heavy hitters so they had to base their cinematic universe around the Justice League International, with the main members being Ted Kord/Blue Beetle, Booster Gold, Black Canary, Green Arrow, Firestorm, and Shazam.
He did a video on that, where DC sold the rights to their biggest characters Superman Batman and Wonder Woman. He should definitely remake that video but make some changes
Interesting
@@joelsilva699I saw that video, but I think it would be better if they sold the main Justice League members to various studios and have DC have to make a JLI focused universe
and then in 2024 we got Batman and Deathstroke and are getting superman: First Steps in 2025.
I want to see a movie universe were it's centered around justice league dark how the MCU originally was
That almost happened. In 1998, Sony had a choice to either buy the film rights to Spider-man for a $7M or nearly every Marvel character except Spider-man for $25M; they chose the former. Then Sony said: "Nobody gives a damn about the other Marvel characters."
Massive fumble
@RARARASPUTIN1914 it was a good call for the time though.
Spider-man was always a heavy hitter. I'm not sure if the modern state of comic book movies could've been achieved without already massive franchises like Spider-man or X-Men getting movies to pave the way for it.
@@spoonybard2380 absolutely agree for the time it was a good call. could they not have bought both for 32 million though?
@@Thatguykieran07 maybe marvel still wanted to retain some kind of movie rights just in case?
Wait, from what i know they sell all marvel characters including spiderman to sony (not except)
Dude, ant-man and wasp were founding members of the avengers. They should absolutely exist in this universe.
@sheepylee12 The original comic book Avengers roster like in Earth's Mightiest Heroes should have happened here. What a GOATed show, though. It was Marvel's version of the Justice League cartoons.
I would switch Thor and Captain America, and have Ant-Man and Wasp take Quicksilver and Wanda’s place.
Absolutely
They're literally there
@@Gaonkkk they aren't founding members like in the comics. They're basically an afterthought here, probably worse than the actual MCU.
Disagree completely leaving Thor out of the avengers lineup, even before the mcu he was part of the trinity of the avengers
Same here. The number of movies could even be kept the same by having a Thor movie in 2011 and Cap 1 in 2012 before Avengers, with no "epilogue" movie to the Phase.
Also, Black Widow and Hawkeye could still be in the movie. They are SHIELD agents, no need to establish them prior. No twins, Spider-man could stay or go.
@@ClaireWritesSometimes no Spider Man too
@@criticodememes2325 yeah, Spider-Man is never the most full-time Avengers member. He'd definitely not work as a founder.
@@SecretMagicianThey should give us Ant-Man and Wasp there...
Workaround: in Avengers 1, Thor is introduced as "Dr. Donald Blake," having amnesia from his exile and being revealed to have powers and helping the Avengers before going off on a journey to find out more about who he really is in the Thor movies in Phase 2.
“I think Peter’s life is going a bit too well at this point”
*Zeb Wells moment*
😅😅 exactly
Nah this is a Marvel Heads moment as a whole.
That’s just a Marvel Editorial Moment
Spoken like a true Spiderman Writer
*Kid Named Paul:*
Back in the days when Stan Lee would sell the rights to anyone, Howard the Duck came about because George Lucas found the comic while traveling. If Stan had all the rights for the characters and forethought to combine his and Lucas's merchandising, maybe he could've convinced Lucas there was a bigger market for the Superheroes and we would've got a Lucasfilm produced MCU in the 80's and 90's.
id love to see the fan castings for that universe
Like Classic Doctor Who, the effects wouldn’t be what they could do now, but some of the stories would rock!
“Peter, I am your father!”
@@justice_productions_I mean, look at Star Wars. Not the best but Lucas was a smart guy, even the Star Wars prequels despite how much shit they get held up for years after compared to other CGI in Hollywood, I seriously doubt Lucas would do the effects poorly
I’ve seen many TH-camrs do this exact topic, wondering what the MCU would look like if they had the rights since the beginning but out of all of them, yours is easily one of the best executed universes I’ve ever seen. You were able to bring so many superheroes and teams and made it all work so well. Fantastic job.
2008:
2:34 Amazing Spider Man
3:09 X-Men
3:45 Hulk
2009:
4:11 Fantastic Four
2010:
4:49 Spectacular Spider Man
5:28 Iron Man
2011:
5:53 Incredible Hulk
6:10 Captain America The First Avenger
6:25 X-Men United
2012:
6:57 Avengers
9:08 Fantastic Four Into the Negative Zone
2013:
9:30 X-Men Apocalypse
9:57 Friendly Neighborhood Spider Man
10:34 Iron Man 2
2014:
10:51 Daredevil
11:40 Captain America Winter Soldier
11:55 Thor
2015:
12:15 Fantastic Four Rise Of the Silver Surfer
12:48 Avengers Age of Ultron
13:37 Blade
2016:
14:30 Planet Hulk
15:05 Avengers Vs. X-Men
16:12 Ghost Rider
2017:
16:47 Ultimate Spider Man
17:36 Daredevil And The Punisher
18:12 Captain America Brave New World
18:52 Iron Man Armor Wars
2018:
19:56 Thor Ragnarok
20:40 Doctor Strange
21:24 Avengers Infinity War
22:08 X-Men Dark Pheonix
2019:
23:05 Midnight Suns
24:00 Captain Marvel
24:10 Avengers Endgame
27:01 The Wolverine
Thanks. 🎉
This plus a thor movie in 2009 and prior spider man movie in 2006, also wolverine instead of daredevil, deadpool instead of daredevil 2 and logan instead of 2019 wolverine,, daredevil having his own tv show like irl
In total 37 movies
And 12 tv shows
1_Brotherhood of mutants: 4 s 8 ep (2013)
Agents of Shield: 3 s 10 ep
Agent Carter: 2 s 8 ep
Black cat: 1 s 8 ep
5_Daredevil: 3 s 10 ep
Punisher: 2 s 10 ep
Jessica Jones: 2 s 10 ep
Luke Cage: 1 s 10 ep
Iron fist: 1 s 8 ep
Defenders: 1 s 8 ep
Moon knight: 1 s 8 ep
12_Inhumans: 1 s 10 ep (2019)
I find it funny how even in a universe where marvel was allowed to use Cpt.Marvel, the plot-line where Rouge absorbs Carol’s powers still never happens and she presumably falls into the background of both the X-men films & the wider MCU.
*Rogue
You didn't need to take out Hawkeye.. considering the fact he was first introduced then, and Thor is part of the Avenger's trinity in the comics (Cap, Iron Man, Thor) and he should've gotten a movie before
Not having Thor in the 2012 Avengers movie in this world could be similar to how the Avengers didn’t debut with Cap, Iron Man, and Thor in the first issue in 1963 with Cap appearing in issue 4
@@joelsilva699 Yea but Cap's part made sense, he was frozen in ice, this just purposely chooses not to incorporate Thor as a founding member which is silly
I feel like this would have been a good opportunity to have the original comic book accurate Avengers roster with Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Ant-Man and the Wasp with Captain America being there too since his movie already came out.
This roster feels kinda weird for the very first Avengers movie in this universe. Maybe it could work in the sequel, but it's definitely not here.
@@SecretMagicianagreed. It’s odd to me how the guy in the video says that Ant-Man and the wasp won’t get a movie because they aren’t popular, but he still gives Iron Man a movie. Which makes sense in the context of the fact that he’s kinda the face of the Avengers, but if Marvel is purely playing it safe like he implied, would they even bother to introduce Iron Man at all?
Heck... the MCU doesn't need to follow up the OG Avengers line-up at all i feel like. Not including Hulk in the initial roster could do so much storywise with him after Hulk 1 (For example... Age of Ultron can still happen, but with Hulk being captured by Ultron, whos mind get tampered with... basically creating anti-hero Hulk... which leads into its first confrontation with Thor later on in Thor and Hulk movie, which then leads into a whole World War/Planet/World Breaker Hulk until he becomes an Avenger. You don't even need to include Hawkeye and Black Widow on the original roster either... replace them with Ant-Man and the Wasp and replace Hulk with Spider-Man.
It would be way more interesting this way as well, since then you for example can also more of a dynamic team roster as well.
Can I leave your basement
Never
@@TheBlackLion001can I live in your basement?
There might be an opening in 2043
@@TheBlackLion001Can I destroy your basement?
@@TheBlackLion001can I eat your basement?
24:26 bro Gambit just despawned 😭
It's my understanding that the Ed Nortan recast was actually a rights issue, but not in the traditional sense.
What I remember hearing is that Marvel wanted Mark Ruffalo as the Hulk from the start, but Universal was adamant that Ed Nortan should have the role.
And following the Incredible Hulk, Norton didn't like that he wouldn't have any writing power in future installments, and chose to step away, allowing Marvel to recast him to Mark Ruffalo like they wanted originally.
I'm imagining Ed Norton but a little bit darker.
damn, if only universal didnt intervence, mark could have gotten a real hulk film
That's a shame. I understand being hesitant over letting an actor in in that department, but I feel like Ed could've done so much for the Hulk character, especially compared to what we actually got
@@robloxfellowmarks a bad actor, he influenced his role in ragnarok and that made him super out of character
@@oldylad Mark Ruffalo isn’t a bad actor at all.
I think rights wise, there would’ve been an ant-man and the wasp movie before avengers and they would follow the original avengers team
Messing up the OG six avengers was a Hate crime 😭
Ikr
i would have released iron man a bit early, though still after spiderman and xmen, and iron man 2 with war machine and black widow alongside thor before the avengers 2012
That hurt 😭
@ThisisHuzaifa this should have been the original comic book Avengers members, Iron Man, Ant-Man, Wasp, Hulk, and Thor.
It was the perfect opportunity to have them be in this version of the MCU, but he pulled a Snyderverse Justice League instead.
Same thing with the X-Men. They should have been the First Class roster with Cyclops, Jean Grey, Angel, Beast, and Iceman, but he didn't do that either.
I would have keep Thor with this be his introduction movie. Loki would still be the main villain and the first Thor movie would be a mix of Thor and Thor the Dark World.
I also don't think Spider-Man should be a founding member. I would probably make him an Avenger here but then leave because "save the world" type of missions aren't his thing.
For the last two members i would either keep Black Widow and Hawkeye (with this movie as their official debut) or Ant-Man and Wasp. Even if using Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver didn't bother much to me.
i would make deadpool the only tv show and have it be a way to recap all mcu projects. so people can go ''hmm i'm gonna watch the new movie and want to prepare. i can watch all 34 movies before this one or i can just watch this episode of deadpool.''
The best idea fr
That's actually good
Deadpool could easily be a tv show. Most of what makes deadpool deadpool is that we see him to regular every day things. You could easily stretch out a story for deadpool through a multi season tv series
Damn this is incredibly detailed. You’re secretly from the universe where these movies actually happened, aren’t you…? 🤨
He's Doctor Strange Trust Me
I always thought that if The X-Men and Fantastic 4 were present during the snap, all the X-Men but Wolverine would be dusted and the Fantastic 4 but Johnny and Ben would be dusted.
Just johnny and ben sounds crazy thatd actually be super interesting to see and with wolverine too
I am sorry, but there is no f-ing way they decide to dust Cyclops
yeah nah they wouldn't strip that amount of the x-men, just look at house of M in which still kept a couple mutants around and it was with the help of dr strange and emma frost to help prevent it affecting everyone
Saying "the ff but johnny and Ben" is a convoluted way to say "reed and sue" 😊. 👍
@@The_Infamous_Boogymanbut then the sentence would be "[...] Reed and Sue wouldn't be dusted"
WHAT IF…A Cinematic Amalgam Universe (basically dc x marvel)
Yes please!
Pretty sure there’s a comic book with that premise where characters from each world were mixed with their counterparts from the other world (e.g. thanos and darkseid being thanseid)
@nopizza4you It was the Amalgam Comics that did that, yes. There was also other amalgamations such as Darkclaw (Batman + Wolverine), Super Soldier (Superman + Captain America), Iron Lantern (Green Lantern + Iron Man), and way more!
Please make it happen, a DC × Marvel Universe existing in one universe
@@nopizza4you yea there is
Since we have so many franchises this time around, how about doing a part 2 going over what the Multiverse saga would be like
Wanna see part two
Spider-Man being a founding member of the avengers is kinda weird
I mean... honestly... in the MCU... it doesn't really matter anyways (Hakweye/Black Widow aren't founding members in the comics for example... heck Black Widow didn't even join until the 1970s, when Hawkeye was already on the team in the 1960s).
@@nickdentoom1173yeah but the difference is those two characters were pretty cemented as avengers through tv shows and with them having little to no other affiliations
Even before the MCU Thor was one of the big 3 of the Avengers, regardless they would’ve given him his own movie before the avengers and he would’ve been on the team, Loki was even their first villain in the comics so there would be no reason not to include him. Also Guardians and Ant-man would’ve still happened more of less when they did, Ant-man was still a known character and that movie was in developed during the early days of the MCU and Guardians was obscured even by MCU standards and was chosen to be given a movie as an experiment and to cash in on the Star Wars void, them having all the rights wouldn’t have changed that.
We need a part 2, don’t care how just plz part 2 it’s so well done
I feel like nor enough people understand that Avengers initially were created because the characters by themselves were never big enough to sell books by themselves, putting them together and adding Hulk who was by far the most popular one was just an attempt to save them as characters. But a lot of series later this obviously changed and if team was formed in the 10s it would have a completely different roster.
chances are hulk would have been fine with or without the avengers.......and the fact that he split on the team after the 2nd issue or so is proof of that he works better solo or as kind of chaotic neutral character that fights villains and heroes depending on the situation....if the avengers formed in the 10s it would depend if they would treat like the JLA as bendis did grabbing the most popular characters from other franchises as well some more unknown characters or would they take side characters that don't really have stable home franchises like that and pool them together as the avengers basically did and form a team out of them....for example wolverine and spiderman were added for popularity sake both one had a team he was already well established with and the other was the most popular solo hero who was already a franchise to himself....there additions only served to make the avengers more popular not vice versa
Another thing that could happen in Endgame is Spidey killing someone because of the Venom suit, and then the guilt he feels could be explored or expanded on in his next movie, allowing Miles to be introduced as a sort of recovery method for Peter. Just a thought though
I much prefer this tbh, it adds another dark layer to a known character while also upping the ante for his Parker luck
Great video! I'll be waiting for the next saga's video, whenever it arrives
This was a great video! Well done. There is a few things I disagree with and I would change, but yeah. But I hope you see this: Please make a part 2 for the next saga! Thank you!
I hate How people act like the Avengers were never popular and only became popular bc of the MCU and act like the X-Men were always popular when that wasnt the case. infact their debut series was so bad that it got cancelled and for like 10 Years Spider-Man, FF4 and the Avengers were the Faces of Marvel and it wasnt until 1975 where the X-Men started to become more popular but they still werent massively well known. and it wasnt until the 90s and X-Men TAS where they started to become more mainstream and the Avengers while still popular were losing popularity. it wasnt until after Marvel had sold their films rights to their biggest characters where they started to push the Avengers more into the mainstream during the late 90s and 2000s and people were genuily excited for the Avengers Movie once EMH came out. most heroes/characters become popular bc of Movies and TV Shows so the argument that ''the Avengers were only popular bc of the MCU'' is stupid.
I feel like you're not getting the point, when people that the Avengers weren't popular while the X-MEN were, they don't mean that it was ALWAYS like that, since their birth, instead, we're looking at a specific time frame. People who got to follow the MCU as they grew up discovered it's characters along with it, but they already knew the X-MEN, Spidey and The Hulk
But they didn’t get popular until the MCU, no one respected them , everyone knows the X-Men were Marvel
@@TreFKennedy not true I mean Iron-Man did but rest of the team didnt until EMH
@@TreFKennedy spiderman being the sole success that along with a 90s show had prior shows that predated 90s x-men. spider-man is probably the most universally liked unlike all other avengers and x-men where it's clearly specific in timeframe
@@nightwish1453
There's a reason Spider-Man, Superman, and Batman are the Big Three superheroes
All these movies would have the MCU title names for the most part.
Phase 1: Iron Man, Fantastic Four, Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America, Spider-Man, X-Men, Antman, The Avengers.
Phase 2: Iron Man 3, Fantastic Four 2, Incredible Hulk 2, Thor 2, Captain America 2, Black Widow, Spider-Man 2, X-Men 2, Guardians of the Galaxy, Antman 2, The Avengers 2.
Phase 3: Fantastic Four 3, Guardians of the Galaxy 2, Black Widow and Hawkeye, Spider-Man 3, Captain America 3, X-Men 3, Dr Strange, Black Panther, Thor 3, Avengers 3, Captain Marvel, Antman and The Wasp, Avengers 4, Spider-Man 4.
Phase 4: Wandavision, Falcon and The Winter Soldier, Loki, Hawkeye, Shang Chi, Incredible Hulk 3, Thor 4, Venom, Spider-Man 5, Dr.Strange 2, Black Panther 2, Ms.Marvel.
Phase 5: Antman and The Wasp 2, Guardians of the Galaxy 3, Secret Invasion, The Marvels, Loki S2, Deadpool and Wolverine, Captain America 4, Thunderbolts.
Phase 6: Fantastic Four 4, Spiderman and Wolverine, Blade, Moon Knight, Daredevil, Luke Cage and Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, The Punisher, Agatha All Along, Armour Wars, Shang Chi 2, X-Men 4,Avengers 5, Dr.Strange 3, Avengers 6.
Wolverine having only one marvel movie is a crime and boii where did magneto go throughout all these events
24:33 i respect your perspective, there’s no universe where The Avengers are more over than the X-Men had marvel had the film rights from the beginning
Imo this is kinda all over the place. I think Phase One should've kept the same, introduce the Avengers but include Spider-Man as well. Introducing three teams at once is kinda convoluted especially given that the MCU in the early days wasn't THAT confident. Making it more linear, tell an enclosed story about The Avengers formation. Then introduce the X-Men in the next phase and in place of GotG introduce the F4. Make the last Phase Two movie a team up between Avengers and X-Men so that we only have 2 storylines (Avengers and F4) instead of 3 totally disconnected team storylines
Yeah, it feels weird having a Mix of real world MCU movies kinda being dragged out of their context and put intanother universe. I feel like changing some of the real world movies to match the fake ones would have worked better. There are some cool ideas though such as Red Skull as an Avengers villain.
IMO there’s no way Marvel wouldn’t make movies about the FF and X-Men in phase 1
Bro, you’re not understanding. The MCU only actually starts happening because of iron man in this version. The Xmen and Spider-Man would without a doubt get a first movie, after Ironman and hinting at something more than their confidence would blow up. You’re underestimating the popularity of the Xmen and Spider-Man, and if Ironman blows up like in our universe too the floodgates would open even more
While i do like this pitch i feel like Thanos wouldn't be the big bad right away, i feel like someone like Galactus or whoever was more popular than Thanos pre 2012 would have been the main villain.
@PredsjednikGustavo._ This does feel a bit disjointed when you watch it, too.
@@PredsjednikGustavo._ Doom should have been the overarching villain of this version of the MCU.
@@SecretMagician Yeah and i don't like how Wanda gets killed off at the end, in this and other one video
Dr. Doom and The Master of Evil could work as the first big bad.
@@adrianthearmorwarrior1605 IMO Doom should be that one villain who is always around and later becomes the main villain while first one should kinda be Galactus in my opinion, i would have made Thanos the villain later
I was thinking about this too, I even made my own 33 year long MCU movie line up lmfao.
@SlavaPalestineGaza What do you think of my MCU ideas? I posted this elsewhere but wanted to say it here, too.
Personally, what I'd do is have the original Avengers members with Iron Man, Thor, Ant-Man, Wasp, and Hulk in the first Avengers movie with all of them having solo movies beforehand, but have Hulk leave the team after stopping Loki and in a post-credits scene, show the Avengers accidentially finding Captain America while looking for Hulk.
Black Widow, Hawkeye, Vision, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Scarlet Witch, and Quicksilver can show up in either solo movies or in future Avengers films as members.
Ultron would be a Hank Pym creation which takes all his worst qualities into one being and creates Vision, and also creates the Masters of Evil to be his henchmen who would be some villains left unresolved from previous films like Justin Hammer as Titanium Man, Amora the Enchantress, Abomination, etc.
This act leads to Hank quitting the Avengers at the end, which leads to his downward spiral of becoming Yellowjacket in an Ant-Man and the Wasp sequel (he wouldn't abuse Janet though).
The first Ant-Man and the Wasp movie would be about them dealing with M.O.D.O.K. and A.I.M., with the second one after Age of Ultron with Hank as Yellowjacket, be about Scott Lang stealing the Ant-Man suit. The events of that film would lead to Hank quitting active superheroics and being Scott's guy in the chair from now on with him also getting therapy.
The X-Men would have the First Class roster with Cyclops, Beast, Jean Grey, Angel, and Iceman with Magneto and the Brotherhood being the villains (Toad, Mystique, Juggernaut, Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch), basically adapting the TH-cam, SUPER FRAME's X-Men film ideas.
The Fantastic Four can stay the same with Sue not being played by Jessica Alba (it's clear she was cast just for fanservice when you think about it) and Chris Evans not be Johnny since he'll be Captain America, and adapt that unused longer, more action packed and dramatic script from 1996 by Michael France, with Doom making a molecular alteration machine and a giant continent spanning hurricane in the last act.
An Incredible Hulk sequel would have Hulk on the run with the Leader as the villain, but the secondary villains would be Weapon X soldiers which are Wolverine, Sabretooth, Omega Red, Deadpool and Lady Deathstrike tasked by Thunderbolt Ross to find Hulk.
Wolverine would leave the team to help Hulk in stopping the Leader's gamma mutant plans in the third act while the other Weapon X members would get brainwashed, mutated, and eventually escape after stopping the Leader (this combines the Hulk vs. Wolverine animated movie and the Gamma World two-parter from Earth's Mightiest Heroes with Wolverine taking Hawkeye's place in that film).
A post-credits scene would show Wolverine being recruited by the X-Men setting up the Giant-Size X-Men roster in that movie's sequel.
The overarching villain of this version of the first three phases wouldn't be Thanos because it would feel a bit derivative of what we actually have, so it would either be Dr. Doom, Galactus, or Surtur instead.
I've come to the conclusion that the replacement for Infinity War and Endgame that serves as the complete MCU crossover events would be a combination of Secret Invasion with Dark Reign. From Phase 2, we get various hints of other characters involved in this secretly being Skrulls having taken them hostage and replaced them and a Secret Invasion movie would be the resolution to this. With the world in shambles afterwards, Doctor Doom takes advantage of this and becomes a public hero, creating a new team called the Thunderbolts to replace the Avengers as they are split up while the X-Men and Fantastic Four (especially the X-Men) are disillusioned and divided as well.
Meanwhile Thanos would be pushed into a Phase 5 or 6 villain. This would be where, just like in the comics (if I'm not wrong), barely anyone aside from space faring characters like the Guardians of the Galaxy, Nova Corps, Shi'ar, Kree and the Skrull know about him until he snaps the Infinity Gauntlet and half the universe disappears.
This would do a lot, give us a proper comic book, accurate Avengers, Fantastic Four and X-Men roster and tone, build up all three teams and the characters involved in an interesting way, and finally give us that Wolverine vs. Hulk fight we've always wanted.
The other characters I didn't talk about here, like Spider-Man, Daredevil, Ghost Rider, etc, can show up the same, like in this video, though.
@@SecretMagician In my MCU I also have the Avengers form with the original Avengers team + Captain America. They would fight Loki in Avengers 1. I also introduce Wolverine in his own solo movie to introduce the X-Men but he is not part of the Avengers. I think I would make it a multi-time period movie and show Logan as soldier before the modern-day.
I would introduce Hawkeye & Black Widow in their own movie before Avengers 2. In Avengers 2 the main villain would be MODOK & AIM. I'd give Magneto a time period movie in WW2 and Scarlet Witch & Quiksilver their own movie before X-Men 2 which introduces the Brotherhood of Mutants. (In X-Men 1 they'd fight the Sentinels.)
I would also make a horribly tragic arc about "The Fall of Ant-Man". In Avengers 3 (which involves the Inhumans & Fantastic 4), I would introduce Galactus as the main villain with Silver Surfer as well. I would need all three superhero teams just to show how much of a threat Galactus is. By the end of the movie, the Wasp, who is Janet van Dyne, would be in a coma. Janet's coma coupled with the threat of Galactus would give make Hank go crazy about building a suit of armor around the world (like MCU Iron Man). This leads to Ultron. Ultron destroys Oderstadt, which would the capital of my version of Latveria. Doctor Doom (who would have been introduced in the first Fantastic 4 as Reed Richard's academic rival) would have lost his family in this event. In the first Fantastic 4, Doom would be introduced as a troubled scientist trying to bring back his mother, but not necessarily a villain. I'd also touch on anti-Romani sentiments in Latveria after WW2 & how this also contributed to his mother's deal with Mephisto & then Doom's quest.
After Doom found a family & became a Latverian diplomat & scientist, he would find some peace and forgive Reed. However, when Ultron kills Doom's family, Doom would be furious and would hate Hank Pym. Doom would also hate Tony Stark, Bruce Banner, and Reed Richards for not stopping Pym. This leads to Doom overthrowing the U.S. backed Latverian monarchy & renaming the new capital city of New Oderstadt to Doomstadt. Eventually, the Fantastic 4 & Avengers are sent to Latveria (leading to the X-Men, Defenders, & Inhumans hating the Avengers & Fantastic 4). Using his popularity among the Latverian people & the Avengers & Fantastic 4's morals, Doom makes it harder to kill him, using his tech & magic as well. Eventually, Doom kills Hank Pym & tells the Avengers & Fantastic 4 to leave Latveria or face nuclear war (Latveria is located in modern day Silesia in my MCU). At the end of Avengers 5, Janet wakes up & learns of Hank's death. I'd also have Scott Lang become the second Ant-Man much later down the timeline.
For the X-Men I'd give them a five movies where their villains would be the Sentinels, then the Brotherhood of Mutants, then Apocalypse, then Cassandra Nova, then the Dark Phoenix where Professor X would die & lead to Cyclops becoming leader of the X-Men & him defeating the Inhumans in Inhumans vs. X-Men & then the X-Men being defeated & dissolved in Avengers vs. X-Men.
The Fantastic 4 would have a trilogy where their villains would be Mole Man, Super-Skrull, and Annihilus. The Hulk would have 9 movies, with Hulk 1, Hulk 2, Hulk 3, Hulk & She-Hulk, Hulk & the Thing, Hulk vs. Red Hulk, Hulk vs, Wolverine, Planet Hulk, & World War Hulk. Hulk 1 would have Abomination as the villain, Hulk 2 would have Absorbing Man as the villain & Hulk 3 would have The Leader as the villain with Zzzax as a secondary villain created by The Leader. Hulk & She-Hulk could face off against a She-Hulk villain or a new villain or an old Hulk villain. Hulk & the Thing would have a massively juiced up Juggernaut as the villain. Hulk vs. Wolverine would lead to the Hulk being launched into space & lead to Planet Hulk & then World War Hulk.
I'd have Wolverine as a founding member or early member of the X-Men, but Wolverine would also connect to the Avengers in many ways. In my MCU I'd have six teams: the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, the Defenders, the X-Men, Guardians of the Galaxy, and the Inhumans. I might include the Thunderbolts, but I don't see where I could fit them in in my MCU, maybe I could have a comedic film where the US sends the Thunderbolts in Latveria only to get absolutely massacred by Doom's army, or maybe I could have the Thunderbolts have a similar plot to The Suicide Squad.
I would have 100+ movies & start with Iron Man & end with Scarlet Witch & Vision 2, a nice wholesome movie to cap off the cinematic universe/multiverse. Honestly, I like your MCU ideas and your more comic accurate Avengers. I also liked the way you envision Hank Pym's fall & redemption, I just wanted to make it more tragic and use it as set up to establish Doctor Doom's cunning and him not being a total villain as he is smarter than that. I also like your X-Men & Fantastic 4, although I personally would want to save Doom for an Avengers & Fantastic 4 film. I also like your Hulk but would want to use Wolverine as an X-Men member from the start, have Sabertooth be solely a Wolverine villain and also use Deadpool like in his movies and have him play as role in the MCU and have him also have movies with Gwenpool at the tail end of the MCU. I really like your ideas and wanting to give comic accurate tone & rosters.
@SlavaPalestineGaza your ideas sound really interesting, but could you please split it up into paragraphs? It was definitely a good read but a bit hard to follow because of how long it was, and splitting it up into segmented paragraphs could make it easier to read through.
Here’s my MCU so far. I don’t know where to put House of M or Thunderbolts tbh.
Iron Man 1
Hulk 1
Wolverine 1
Thor 1
Captain America 1 (Red Skull & Madame HYDRA)
Ant-Man & The Wasp 1
Avengers 1 (Loki)
Spider Man 1
Wolverine 2
Fantastic 4 #1 (Mole-Man) Viktor Denikin is hurt & mutilated in an accident but, he recovers but is disfigured)
Iron Man 2
Hulk 2
Gambit & Rogue
Thor 2
Cyclops & Jean Grey
Spider Man 2
Captain America 2 (Baron Zeno & Baron Strucker)
X-Men 1 (Sentienels & rogue US general)
Captain Marvel 1
Iron Man 3
Fantastic 4 #2 (Super Skrull)
Spider Man 3
Blackbolt 1
Inhumans 1
Hulk 3
Colossus & Emma Frost
Captain America 3 (Winter Soldier & neo-HYDRA)
Hawkeye & Black Widow
Avengers 2 (MODOK)
Daredevil
The Punisher
Daredevil vs. The Punisher
Spider Man 4
Magneto
Scarlet Witch & Quiksilver
Hawkeye & Black Widow 2
X-Men 2 (Magneto, Juggernaut & Evil Mutants)
Iron Man 4
Hulk & She Hulk
Luke Cage
Elektra
Iron Fist
The Defenders
Captain America 4 (Doctor Faustus, Batroc, Crossbones)
Wolverine & the Beast
The Hulk & the Thing (Juiced up Juggernaut)
Spider Man 5
Black Widow vs. Elektra
Medusa
Inhumans 2
Armor Wars
Wolverine 3
Rogue & Nightcrawler
X-Men 3 (Apocalypse)
Captain America 5 (Helmut Zemo & Arnim Zola)
Thor 3
Spider Man & Daredevil
Docto Strange 1
Captain Marvel 1
Avengers, Inhumans, & Fantastic 4 #1 (Galactus & Silver Surfer) (the Wasp put into a coma)
Deadpool 1
Fantastic 4 #3 (Annhilius)
Dr. Strange 2
Viktor Denikin 1 (Explains Dr. Doom’s origins & quest to free his mother’s soul from Mephisto, but how failed and was mutilated by his own technology, eventually putting his quest on hiatus after finding love and a family)
Avengers 3: Age of Ultron occurs: Ultron gets created by Yellowjacket (Ant-Man who went crazy after the Wasp was put into a coma in a previous movie and after his hometown and parents were fatalities in a previous Avengers film. Yellowjacket is obsessed with protecting the world. Tony Stark & Bruce Banner agree to help, but even with their complexity and impulsivity, even they see that Ultron is not yet ready for use with tests showing Ultron comes to far too authoritarian solutions to problems. Ultron has secretly been learning from the Avengers database that humans are bad and starts resisting his pro-human programming. Yellowjacket doesn’t care and secretly releases Ultron without Avengers or US approval. He is desperate to defend the world. Ultron then turns on Yellowjacket and tries to kill him in secret. That fails, alerting the Avengers. Instead of pursuing, Ultron flees the scene and gets far enough away with enough robots to ensure his survival. Ultron eventually comes to the conclusion that humans are evil and must be destroyed. That only AI and machines were pure and and that they would have peace. Ultron creates Vision & Jocasta. Ultron enacts his plans launches massive cyberattacks absolutely destroying the world economy and distributing wealth at random, causing chaos all over the world. And causing massive accidents and failures in technology, leading to thousands dying. Ultron then enacts the final phase of his plan, using the capital of Latveria, Oderstadt, to destroy the world. Ultron does this, and the Avengers stop him. In the destruction of Oderstadt, the family of a certain Viktor Denikin are killed.
Spider Man 6
Doctor Doom 2 - With the American Avengers causing the destruction of Oderstadt, the Latverian people call for the extradition of Yellowjacket. The US government, which has now put the neutral Latverian monarchy on life support, does not allow this. The people of Latveria are angry and are gunned down by the Latverian military. The genius weapons expert and Latverian diplomat, Viktor Denikin orchestrates the overthrow of the Latverian monarchy before the eruption of civil war in Latveria. He appeases the Latverian military and helps refugees from the destruction of Oderstadt. King Denikin changes his name to last name to Doom as anti-western propaganda. He names the new refugee city go Doomstadt and makes it the new Latverian capital.
Avengers & Fantastic 4: War of Doom - Doom then calls for the extradition of Yellowjacket to Latveria. The US government tries to kill Doom and install a friendly leader, but this fails. Doom builds up the Latverian military and threatens to invade Germany, Poland & Czechia. With no resort other than sending in the Avengers, the US government does this and tell them to kill Doom. Yellowjacket was exposed by Doom to have released Ultron and exposed Stark for covering it up. A guilty Yellowjacket, now turned Ant-Man see the Wasp return from her coma. Stark tells Yellowjacket to stay back and not go to Latveria with the rest of the Avengers because Doom would target Ant-Man. The Avengers & Fantastic 4 go, souring relations with the X-Men & Inhumans. Doom & the Avengers are an equal match. The people of Doomstadt fight the Avengers, but because the Avengers don’t want to kill the people of Doomstadt, they struggle to defeat and get to Doom. This experience of the people of Doomstadt fighting the Avengers sows seeds for Civil War. Doom captures Ant-Man and kills him in front of the Wasp. The Wasp tries to kill Doom, and she is captured, but Doom decides to spare her. Doom tells the Avengers that they are free to go. The Avengers only facing the people of Doomstadt and Doom himself (with a reverse engineered successful Ultron system). The Avengers realize killing a figure as popular as Doom would both require more Avengers to die and turn Latveria against the Avengers. The Avnegers retreat and Doom wins. The government is angry and leave Latveria alone. After the Latveria scandal, the government officials involved with it are disgraced, with General Ross being fired (leading to Red Hulk). However, the Latverian Scandal does leave the US government skeptical about the loyalties of superheroes. And with the many crimes of the Avengers, a national debate forms around how much the government should control the Avengers.
Hulk vs. Red Hulk
Black Panther 1
Inhumans 3
Captain America 6 (Serpent Society)
X-Men 4 (Cassandra Nova)
Dr. Strange 3
Deadpool & Black Widow (Taskmaster)
Hulk vs. Wolverine (Hulk launched into space by Professor X, Iron Man, Mr. Fantastic, Blackbolt, and Doctor Strange.)
Guardians of the Galaxy 1
Blade 1
Spider Man 7
X-Men Dark Phoenix (Death of Professor X)
X-men vs. Inhumans (Cyborg becomes leader of the mutants & destroy the Terrigen Mists, the Mutants win)
Avengers vs. X-Men, after it is revealed the Phoenix force is still on affecting the mutants and after the events of Dark Phoneix, the Avengers are sent in to round up the X-Men and strong arm them to move into a territory in the desert and become a government team. After the Death of Professor X (due to Phoenix Force Jean Grey) Cyborg becomes leader of the team and refuses to give into this demand, saying it would ruin the progress of Professor X. The Avengers and Captain America are given the order to attack the X-Men. Cyborg and the X-Men declare war on the U.S. The Phoenix Force arrives and splits into 4 X-Men and into Namor, leader of Atlantis. Namor takes his army and floods Wakanda, bringing Wakanda & Atlantis into the US-X-men war. Eventually, the Avengers win and the X-men are defeated. Namor is replaced and arrested with Wakandan & American navy keeping tabs on Atlantis and having them pay reparations to Wakanda. In prison, Magneto tells Cyborg that he was right, demoralizing Cyborg and showing the tragedy of Professor X being wrong about humanity in some ways. Many X-Men are on the run, like Wolverine, and many X-Men are in prison. The events of Avengers vs. X-Men lead to a civil war… (the Avengers won)
Black Panther 2
Moonknight 1
Ghost Rider 1
Spider Man 8
Deadpool & Wolverine
Guardians of the Galaxy 2
Ms. Marvel
Planet Hulk
Spider Man & Deadpool
Avengers Civil War: with the crimes of the Avengers and the the X-Men fighting the US, the US & the UN call for the Superhero Registration Accord. With Captain America holding the government’s usage of the Avengers against Doom & against the X-Men as evidence of being against the Accord & Iron Man using the X-Men action & the Yellowjacket’s activation of Ultron as evidence of being for the Accord.
Team Iron Man: Wasp, War Machine, Black Panther, Mr. Fantastic, Dr. Strange, Invisible Woman, Hawkeye, Scarlet Witch, Vision, Spider-Man, Captain Britain, Ms. Marvel, Luke Cage, Punisher, Wong, Scott Lang Ant-Man
Team Captain America: Thor, She-Hulk, Human Torch, The Thing, Blade, Ghost Rider, Black Widow, Quicksilver, Captain Marvel, Moonknight, Falcon, Daredevil, Iron Fist, Wolverine, Winter Solider
Captain Marvel 2
World War Hulk
Spider-Man & Venom
Black Panther 3
Guardians of the Galaxy 3
Infinity War
The Sentry
The Eternals
Endgame (Human Torch, Wasp & Iron Man, & Hulk die)
Guardians of the Galaxy 4
She Hulk
Thor 4
Dr. Strange & Scarlet Witch (Mephisto, Multiverse is introduced)
Ant-Man 2
Shang-Chi
Young Avengers: Reign of Grey Gargoyle
Iron heart
Spider Man vs. Sinister 6 (Mile Morales is introduced)
Iron Lad
Avengers, Inhumans & Fantastic 4: Kang the Conqueror (Death of Spider Man, Captain America, Thor, & Wolverine)
Spider-Woman
Mighty Thor & Lady Thor
Falcon & the Winter Soldier
Spider Man 9
Young Avengers 2: Return of Grey Gargoyle
Deadpool & Gwenpool
Doctor Strange 5 (Multiverse of Madness)
Man-Thing
Captain America 7 (Falcon in the New Captain America)
Spider-Man 10: Across the Spiderverse
Spider-Man 11: Beyond the Spiderverse
X-Men 5 (Cyclops becomes leader of X-Men again)
X-23
Scarlet Witch & Vision
Kree-Skrull War
Captain Marvel 3
Secret Invasion
Deadpool & Gwenpool 2
Secret Wars
Deadpool & Gwenpool 3
Scarlet Witch & Vision 2
@@SlavaPalestineGaza while this does sound interesting, I feel like certain characters and projects could be introduced in series instead of films with multiple seasons in order to make things less cluttered and certain films could be cut because they either sound too fanfic-y or are somewhat unnecessary.
You should have added another Wolverine movie in 2019 where he goes through the events of the Wolverine but it’s a more R rated version as he deals with the grief of Jean, and at the end he gets his Hulk Vs Wolverine suit and is sucked into the events of Thor Ragnarok, finally giving us a face off of the two. That way the solo film after Endgame can be more about coming to peace with the death of Jean and not being apart of a team just being his own person while also becoming a father and finally having the perfect ending to his story.
This is really cool! I'd love to see a DC slate with this number of movies.
Also, the only change I'd make is that Loki is still the villain of the first Avengers, and Thor is a member (he can be introduced there).
I think the destruction of Asgard is crucial to Thor’s story
Yeah, I was about to say, the title & term "Ragnarok" isn't just used willy-nilly, as it has connections to Norse mythology. Asgard's destruction is kind of the whole point, as it's the realm of the Norse gods.
@trevthomscultclassiccorner2037 Yeah, why title the movie Thor: Ragnarok if Surtr and the destruction of Asgard don't appear and don't happen at all?!
@@SecretMagician My guess would be ignorance on the part of the video creator.
@@trevthomscultclassiccorner2037 strange considering how good some of his previous alternate universe MCU or DCU's are.
@@SecretMagician Oh yeah, no slight against him necessarily, as one can't know everything after all.
And up until Love & Thunder ran the joke into the ground, non-hardcore Thor fans were more than content with him being turned into a surfer bro halfwit. Ah, the magic of Phase 3's pop culture dominance. 😜
Definitely gonna need a part 2 to this😂 I’ve seen a few videos with this same idea but none of them were nearly as good as this.
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20:02 I love the Iron Man Armour Wars Idea, great stuff there.
I do think it would be interesting imagining how Spider-Man would confront the avengers about the Ultron situation. Obviously, they accidentally created a terminator, but even beyond that I don’t think would be fully cool with killing anyone. Maybe you could even plant the seeds of that in the first avengers movie where all the other avengers are perfectly fine turning the aliens into a pile of purple paste, but Spider-Man is the only one webbing them up and leaving them restrained but still alive.
I could see Spider-Man saying something like “Look Ultron is nuts, but he has a point. We have been escalating things. We’ve been taking things too far. Are we really the heroes that we think we are?”
wow! I absolutely want to see a second part, this is fantastic
1:27 why is big hero six there?
Idk
I think it's because it's very loosely based on a marvel comics run. Hence why Stan lee has a cameo
Yeah and they are canon in the MCU so there is a chance that they could’ve met phineas and ferb because they are also canon to the MCU because of the crossover I think
Never mind phineas and ferb is not canon just had a crossover
@@memeseller1156big hero 6 isn’t cannon
You should absolutely make a Part 2 to this! I absolutely enjoyed it! It made me feel like my dream as a 5-6 year old actually came true! It’s that good!
You could make a video on "What if Marvel had an animated universe similar to the DCAMU and Tomorrowverse?" Like instead of Flashpoint Paradox, it could have Quicksilver change the timeline. Have Howard Stark be Iron Man, a war between the Atlanteans and Wakandans. Then have the first Avengers movie, be them fighting against the Shatari and Thanos. The counterpart for Apokolips War could be a messy mix between Infinity Guantlet, Infinity War, and Endgame. For Justice Society WW2, it could be Quicksilver encountering the Invaders. For the Long Halloween, it could be a mix between Demon in A Bottle and Armor Wars. And to end the universe would be a Secret Wars 3-Part finale!
Quicksilver is just not fast enough for that lol. His sister is right there also, you're describing an MCU version of House of M
@@GenusMusic Right lol
Right lol
This breakdown was fire bro 🔥🔥
Great video man, but I believe there was a missed opportunity to do Hulk vs Wolverine which could have happened during the events of the earlier films or even during the events of Endgame.
@isthattc8413
I posted this elsewhere, but it still fits. Personally, what I'd do is have an Incredible Hulk sequel with Hulk on the run with the Leader as the villain, but the secondary villains would be Weapon X soldiers which are Wolverine, Sabretooth, Omega Red, Deadpool and Lady Deathstrike tasked by Thunderbolt Ross to find Hulk.
Wolverine would leave the team to help Hulk in stopping the Leader's gamma mutant plans in the third act while the other Weapon X members would get brainwashed, mutated, and eventually escape after stopping the Leader (this combines the Hulk vs. Wolverine animated movie and the Gamma World two-parter from Earth's Mightiest Heroes with Wolverine taking Hawkeye's place in that film).
A post-credits scene would show Wolvering being recruited by the X-Men setting up the Giant-Size X-Men roster in that movie's sequel.
5:47 the end credit scene wouldve hit harder if they went with this direction
Video Suggestion: What if Marvel and DC shared the same Cinematic Universe?
Yes! Having Man of Steel, Aquaman, and Wonder Woman be part of Phase 1 before a team between some of the Superheroes (Justice League and Avengers).
No
It would be a complete mess.
@@Randomachh79 Why?
Why?
At first, I was concerned it wouldn't be as popular in this universe even with an early Spider-Man being part of the Avengers...until you brought in Venom with the Black Suit. At that point, Venom alone would be dragging those butts to the seats.
Your vision of the MCU is great and it's almost the closest to the actual 616 Universe but i would have the first Spider-Man movie have Doc Ock as the main villain then the second one have Vulture and Electro who are sent by the King Pin (yes this is where i would introduce Fisk and Matt could make a cameo here) and in the third one, have Green Goblin be the main villain. Also i wouldn't kill off Wolverine early.
Just like movies, the video makes it out that Phoenix is EVERYTHING for X-Men even though X-Men have so much lore. A The X-Men movie saga ending with with their own nation of Krakoa would be perfect imo
Please make a part 2 and expand this even more love the video
I like this video, but I don't understand the reason for killing Angel (He literally appears in one movie, and in the comics the founder of the X-Men), Quiksilver and the Scarlet Witch. It was much more logical to give a solo film not to Captain Marvel, but to Wanda and make a film adaptation of House of M, where Quiksilver and Magneto died in the finale.
Just like how he didn't make this universe's Avengers the original roster with Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, and Ant-Man and the Wasp, he half-assed the X-Men too. They should have been the first class with Cyclops, Jean Grey, Iceman, Beast, and Angel.
Wolverine could have been properly introduced (since he showed up in Captain America: The First Avenger) in the Hulk sequel with Thunderbolt Ross recruiting him and a bunch of other Weapon X characters like Sabretooth, Lady Deathstrike and Deadpool to hunt Hulk down.
But Wolverine later chooses to team up with Hulk to stop the Leader's gamma mutant plans while the other Weapon X members escape, including Deadpool, while in a post-credits scene, Wolverine gets recruited for the X-Men setting up the Giant-Sized X-Men roster in the future.
@@SecretMagicianYes, it would really be better to introduce the original team in the first film, then the situation with the Archangel and his death would at least be sad. Otherwise, in this version, ordinary viewers would not care about him.
Also, your ideas are very cool.
Here is my version of MCU if they had all the rights from the begining:
(Name of the saga: Doomsday Saga) (Which is including phase 1-3)
Phase 1:
Fantastic Four: First Steps
Release Year: 2008
Main Villain: Doctor Doom
Story: The story is the same as the real life Fantastic Four movie that came out in 2005.
Details: In this movie we got to se the Fantastic Fours origin story and how they did became enimies to Doctor Doom and how they became worlds first public heroes. Reed and Sue are also planing a wedding that will be in a futurue movie. In the end they defeat Doctor Doom. Stark Industries are also introduced in this movie.
Post Credit Scene: Victor Von Doom survives and begins working with a secret organization, and he is mentioning Stark Industries.
The Amazing Spider-Man
Release Year: 2008
Main Villain: Green Goblin
Story: The story is the same as the real life The Amazing Spider-Man movie that came out in 2012.
Details: This is a origin story of how Peter Parker becames Spider-Man. Peter gets bitten by a spider and the spider that bite Peter are not radioactive is just a spider with diffirent abbilities and the spider gave Peter the abilities. Harry Osborn is Peters best friend. In this movie Peter begins a relationship with Gwen Stacy. The first suit Peter Parker/Spider-Man will have in this movie are the same suit that was Peters beginner suit in the real life Spider-Man: Homecoming movie. The second suit Peter Parker/Spider-Man will have in this movie are the same suit that Peter used in the real life The Amazing Spider-Man movie that came in 2012. We also got to se Green Goblins origin story in this movie. In the end Spider-Man defeats Green Goblin. We also got to se in the end that Harry that is Peters best friend, Harry swears that he will kill Spider-Man beacuse Harrys dad that are the Green Goblin/Norman Osborn are now in prison. Harry wants to kill Spider-Man but he doesnt know that Peter Parker are Spider-Man. In this movie Uncle Ben dies and Aunt May discovers Peters identity. Also Norman does not dies in this movie he is sent to prison and will not return maybe for a small scene.
Post Credit Scene: Peter watches on TV that mutants are public to the world.
X-Men
Release Year: 2008
Main Villain: Brotherhood of mutants which is including Magneto, Mystique, Juggernaut, Toad and Sabretooth
Story: The story is the same as the real life X-Men movie that came out in 2000.
Details: The lineup for the X-Men in this movie are Cyclops, Jean Grey, Wolverine, Beast, Storm and Nightcrawler and Charles as the mentor. In this movie we got to se Cyclops, Storm and Nightcrawler origin story and their origin story are the same as the real life X-Men: Apocalypse movie. Also Ice Man, Pyro and Kitty Pryde are introduced in this movie but not in the lineup. In this movie we got to se how Charles loses his hair. We also got to se how Jean and Cyclops relationship begins. In this movie the X-Men will wear black suits. Also in the end the X-Men takes down the Brotherhood of mutants and the Brotherhood of mutants gets in prison. Also William Stryker will have a small role in this movie. And in this movie mutants get public to the world.
Post Credit Scene: Professor X/Charles are playing chess with Magneto in a prison for Magneto.
The Incredible Hulk
Release Year: 2009
Main Villain: Emil Blonsky (Abinamitaion)
Story: The story is the same as the real life The Incredible Hulk movie that came out in 2008, and this is not an origin story.
Details: The first scene in this movie is a flashback and it is set between the Fantastic Four: First Steps movie and The Amazing Spider-Man movie. In that scene we got to se how Bruce Banner becames Hulk. The rest of the movie takes place 2 years later and it is about bruce being on the run from the military. In this movie we got to se how Emil becomes Abinamitaion and we also got to se how Bruce learns how to controll his Hulk powers. In the end it is a fight between Hulk and Abinamitaion and Hulk wins.
Post Credit Scene: In the post credit scene we see a shadowy figure in a lab. This figure is revealed to be Samuel Sterns, the man whose head swells in the movie’s climax, hinting at his transformation into the Leader. Sterns is seen watching footage of the Hulk, and he begins to laugh quietly to himself as he mutters, “This is just the beginning.” This sets up the Leader as a future villain for the Hulk.
The Amazing Spider-Man 2
Release Year: 2010
Main Villain: Doctor Octopus
Story: The story is the same as the real life Spider-Man 2 movie that came out in 2004.
Details: Peter has now completed high school and its starting to job as a photografer at the Daily Bugle. This movie is set a few months after the first The Amazing Spider-Man movie and before The Incredible Hulk. In this movie Peter will struggle to be Spider-Man and have a job at the same time. He will quit being Spider-Man beacuse it is to hard to be Spider-Man and have a job at the same time. Later in the movie he remembers the words uncle Ben said before he died. ”With great power comes great responsibility.” When Peter cames back as Spider-Man he creates the suit he had in the real life The Amazing Spider-Man 2 that came out in 2014. Otto Octavius will have a big roll in this movie. Ottos goal is to create more power and feel more power. He takes it to far and it goes wrong and it gains dangerous to people. In the end he has gone to far that he want to destroy the whole city. But in the end Spider-Man confronts him and Otto sacrifices himself and dies. The name Doctor Octopus in this movie is created from the Daily Bugle. In this movie Peter and Gwen gets together and becames a couple. MJ is introduced. And Harry hates Spider-Man more and more.
Post Credit Scene: A piece of symbiote gets loose on Earth
Iron Man
Release Year: 2010
Main Villain: Obadiah Stane (Iron Monger)
Story: The story is the same as the real life Iron Man movie that came out in 2008.
Details: The actor for Rhodey in this universe will be Don Cheadle all the time. MK 1-3 are introduced in this movie. MK 1 is the one he uses to escape the cave and MK 2 is the first suit with JARVIS in it and the suit is silver and MK 3 is the first red suit he makes.
Post Credit Scene: The same as the real life Iron Man movie that came out in 2008, Nick Fury introduces the avengers initiave.
Wolverine: Origins
Release Year: 2011
Main Villain: William Stryker
Story: The story is the same as the real life X-Men: Origins Wolverine movie that came out in 2009 but Deadpool are not in this movie.
Details: This movie is set in the 1970s. In the begining of the movie we se Wolverine being on wars through time. In one of the scenes Captain America makes a cameo. Deadpool are not in this movie. In this movie we got to se how Wolverine and Sabretooth from brothers becames enimies. The past Stryker had with Wolverine in the real life X-Men: Origins Wolverine movie that came out in 2009 will not be the same here. Instead it is Strykers dad that has the past with Wolverine under the wars but after the wars it is William Stryker that has a past with Wolverine. Cyclops and Charles are not included in this movie. In this movie we got to se Emma Frost origin story.
Post Credit Scene: Sabretooth joins the Brotherhood of mutants. Set in mid 2000s.
Captain America: The First Avenger
Release Year: 2011
Main Villain: Scmitt (Red Skull)
Story: The story is the same as the real life Captain America: The First Avenger that came out in 2011.
Details: This is a origin story of how Steve Rogers becames Captain America under WWII. In this movie Captain America introduces two New suits. The first suit is the beginer suit with a shield that is not round and that are in the comics the second suit has a round shield. In this movie Wolverine makes a cameo. Red Skull will return in the next movie.
Post Credit Scene: Steve Rogers wakes up in the present day. Nick Fury approaches him, handing him a file labeled “Avengers Initiative.” This would mirror the original post-credit scene but adds more focus on Captain America’s struggle to adjust to modern life.
The Avengers
Release Year: 2012
Main Villain: Red Skull
Story: The story is the same as the real life The Avengers movie that came out in 2012.
Details: Red Skull survives from the Captain America: The First Avenger movie by the tesseract and has time traveled to the present. The lineup for the Avengers are Iron Man, Captain America, Spider-Man, Hulk, Ant Man and the Wasp. Captian Americas suit in this movie are the same as the real life The Avengers movie that came out in 2012. Ant Man and the Wasp are introduced in this movie. Iron Man MK 4-7 are introduced in this movie. MK 4 is the same as MK 3 but a better version and upgraded. He did the suit beacuse MK 3 got damaged after the fight against Iron Monger in the Iron Man movie. MK 5 is the suitcase suit that are in a bag. MK 6 can shoot laser and is inspirred by the first suit that was in the real life The Avengers movie. MK 7 is an upgraded version from MK 6 and it is inspired by the second suit in the real life The Avengers movie.
Post Credit Scene: Victor Von Doom is shown in his lab studying footage of the Avengers’ battle against Red Skull. He muses, “If they could bring the world to its knees… imagine what I could do.” This connects back to his survival in Fantastic Four: First Steps and teases his return as a major villain in Phase 2 or 3.
Here are part 2 (phase 2) on my version of MCU if they had all the rights from the begining:
(Part one took out of letters so here is part 2:)
(The actors for all characters:)
(The actors for the Fantastic Four and Doctor Doom are the same as the real life Fantastic Four movie that came out in 2005 and all the rest in that movie except for Johnny Storm and Reed Richards. The actor for Reed are the actor that played him in the real life Doctor Strange in the multiverse of Madness movie that came out in 2022. The actor for Johnny are Zack Efron. All the actors in the X-Men movie will be the same as the real life X-Men: Apocalypse movie except for Ice Man, Kitty Pryde and Pyro. The actors for them are the same as the real life X-Men movie that came out in 2000. The actors that played Norman and Harry in the real Spider-Man movie that came out in 2002 will play them in The Amazing Spider-Man. The rest in that movie are the same as the real life The Amazing Spider-Man movie that came out in 2012. Mark Ruffalo will play Hulk/Bruce all the time. Also Don Cheadle plays Rhodey all the time. All the other characthers that I has not mention or people that will play future characters are actors that has played that character in real life or just an other actor.)
Phase 2 of the Doomsday Saga:
Fantastic Four: The Negative Zone
Release Year: 2013
Main Villain: Annihilus
Story: Set directly after the first movie and they need to travel to the negative zone to save the city.
Details: After the fight in the first movie against Doctor Doom, the city is damaged of all the elactry Doom has caused to the city. The Fantastic Four need to travel to the negative zone to save the city. When they are in the negative zone Annihilus is there and make it hard for them he is the main villain. In the end they have comed back to earth and the mission has been failed. And also time moves more quickly in the negative zone so when they come back the events of The Avengers movie already has happend. Also The Fantastic Four defeats Annihilus in this movie. Through teamwork and ingenuity, the Fantastic Four manage to defeat Annihilus. However, they discover upon their return that time in the Negative Zone moved much faster than they anticipated and when they comeback, the events of The Avengers have already happend, and the world has changed. Despite their victory over Annihilus, the team is disheartened to learn that their mission to stabilize Earth’s energy grid has ultimately failed.
Post Credit Scene: Galactus is rising.
X-Men: First Class
Release Year: 2013
Main Villain: Sebastian Shaw and the Hellfire Club including Emma Frost
Story: The same as the real life X-Men: First Class movie.
Details: This movie follows the origin of the X-Men set in 2000. The story revolves around young Charles Xavier (Professor X) and Erik Lensherr (Magneto), as they come together to form the first group of X-Men. The main antagonist, Sebastian Shaw, leads the Hellfire Club, a group of powerful mutants seeking to dominate the world. The X-Men must confront Shaw and his team to prevent a nuclear war. Emma Frost, as a member of the Hellfire Club, plays a crucial role in manipulating events. The movie focuses on the origins of Charles Xavier, Erik Lensherr (Magneto), Raven Darkhölme (Mystique), Hank McCoy (Beast), and the formation of the X-Men team. We see how they meet and how Magneto and Professor X’s relationship begins to deteriorate due to their differing ideologies. All other characters that are in the first X-Men movie will not be in this movie for an example Cyclops. In the end the X-Men defeats Shaw and the Hellfire Club. Shaw dies and Emma Frost gets in prison and will not return. Also in this movie we got to se how Magneto, Toad and Mystique gets evil. Also Stryker makes cameo. We also got to se how Charles gets in a wheelchair. And the suits in this movie is the same as the real life X-Men: First Class movie.
Post Credit Scene: Stryker is revealed to be a future main villain of an X-Men movie.
The Amazing Spider-Man 3
Release Year: 2014
Main Villain: Venom and Electro
Story: The story is the same as the real life Spider-Man 3 movie that came out in 2007 but Sandman is replaced by Electro.
Details: In this movie we got to se Electros origin story and the Symbiote Suit. Spider-Mans Symbiote Suit will not return in a later movie. In this movie we got to se how Eddie Brock becames Venom. Harry and Gwen will discovers Peter identity. In the end Spider-Man defeats Venom and Electro but Gwen dies by Venom. Also in the fight between Spider-Man and Venom and Electro, Electros powers turn yellow, before that fight the powers was blue.
Post Credit Scene: Harry Osborn, in a darkened room at Oscorp, stares at a prototype of the Goblin Glider and serum vials, signaling his impending transformation into the new Green Goblin.
Iron Man 2: Iron Legion
Release Year: 2014
Main Villain: Aldrich Killian
Story: The same as the real life Iron Man 3 movie that came in 2013.
Details: In this movie the Mandarin is excluded and we got to se how Rhodey becames War Machine. MK 8-42 is introduced in this movie and MK 42 is the main suit in this movie. In the end Aldrich Killian gets defeated and gets to prison and will not return.
Post Credit Scene: Samuel Sterns (from The Incredible Hulk) is shown in a high-tech laboratory, now fully transformed into The Leader, his swollen head having grown to unnatural proportions. The Leader is seen working with a mysterious alien artifact, possibly a fragment of the Tesseract or some other advanced technology, manipulating it with his intelligence. A holographic image of Victor Von Doom appears in front of Sterns, saying, “You have the brain… but do you have the power?” The Leader smirks, his eyes glowing green as he responds, “Power will come… but knowledge, now that’s what will change the world.” This scene sets up The Leader as a powerful intellectual threat, hinting at his role as a potential villain for Hulk or the Avengers in the future.
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Release Year: 2014
Main Villain: Alexander Pierce and The Winter Soldier
Story: The story is the same as the real life Captain America: The Winter Soldier movie that came out in 2014.
Details: Hawkeye and Black Widow gets introduced in this movie as SHIELD agents and will later join Avengers. Falcon gets also introduced in this movie. This movie will focus on Steve strugle to adjust the modern time. The suit he has in this movie are the same as the real life Captain America: The Winter Soldier movie that came out in 2014. The end is the same as the real life movie.
Post Credit Scene: In a dark, abandoned location, Bucky Barnes, now the Winter Soldier, is seen walking down a hallway, clearly disoriented and confused. He opens a metal door to find a SHIELD facility with a file labeled “WINTER SOLDIER - PROJECT: REINTEGRATION.” Inside the file, there’s a photo of Steve Rogers. The scene ends with Bucky staring at the picture, his face conflicted. This teases the ongoing mystery of Bucky’s past and his potential return as a complex antagonist or ally.
The Incredible Hulk: World War Hulk
Release Year: 2014
Main Villain: The Leader
Story: The Leader wants to controll the Hulk to destroy humanity.
Details: This movie starts in 2014 but ends in 2015. In this movie, Samuel Sterns, now fully transformed into the super-intelligent villain known as The Leader, attempts to manipulate Bruce Banner/Hulk for his ultimate plan to eradicate humanity and create a world ruled by “superior intellects.” Using his advanced mind and stolen SHIELD technology, The Leader builds a device to enhance his mental capabilities and aims to control the Hulk as a weapon of mass destruction. Bruce Banner, struggling to maintain control of his dual identity, must confront both the immense physical challenges of battling The Leader’s minions and the psychological warfare of being used as a tool for destruction. As the movie progresses, Bruce comes to terms with his identity, realizing that the Hulk is not just a curse but also a part of who he is. In the climactic battle, Hulk faces off against The Leader, who uses his enhanced intelligence and advanced technology to outwit and overpower him. However, Bruce’s determination, combined with the raw strength of the Hulk, ultimately overwhelms The Leader’s plans and in the end The Leader is defeated and sent to prison and will not return. Also Betty Ross are not in this movie but Thunderbolt Ross are in this movie. Also A-Bomb (Rick Jones) are introduced in this movie and will have a big role in this movie but in the end A-Bomb sacrifices himself and dies to save everyone.
Post Credit Scene: In a dimly lit laboratory, Victor Von Doom is seen studying blueprints of advanced gamma technology and footage of the Hulk’s battle with the Leader. He mutters, “Raw power like this… a force of chaos waiting to be harnessed. Perhaps it’s time the world met true order.”
As the camera pans out, a glowing containment unit is revealed, holding a fragment of gamma-irradiated material. The screen fades to black with Doom’s voice ominously saying, “The pieces are coming together.” This scene teases Doom’s growing involvement in the Doomsday Saga and sets the stage for a potential clash with Hulk or the broader team of heroes.
Here are part 2 on phase 2, of my version if MCU had all the rights from the begining:
(It took out of letters on the previous part so here is part 2 on phase 2:)
Blade
Release Year: 2015
Main Villain: Deacon Frost
Story: The story is the same as the real life Blade movie that came out in 2015.
Details: The actor for Blade are the same as the real life actor that will play him in the upcoming real life Blade movie. In this movie we will get flashbacks from when Blade was young and his origin.
Post Credit Scene: The post credit are the same as the real life Iron Man 2 movie that came out in 2010 except that Agent Coulson will not be in the post credit scene in this movie, instead Maria Hill will be there instead because Agent Coulson died in The Avengers movie. This scene teases Thors hammer in earth, this teases that Thor will come in this universe.
Daredevil
Release Year: 2015
Main Villain: Kingpin/Fisk, The Punisher and Leland Owlsley
Story: The story is the same as the real Daredevil season 1 show that came out in 2015.
Details: This is the origin of Daredevil, and how he in the end defeats Kingpin, Punisher and Leland Owlsley.
Post Credit Scene: The camera pans over a dark, rainy street in Hell’s Kitchen. A mysterious figure watches from the shadows-his face concealed. He steps into a dimly lit alley, and as he approaches a crate, he pulls out a strange artifact-an intricately carved stone. The sound of a helicopter blade whirring grows louder, and the figure quickly hides the artifact, looking up to see a black-ops team approaching. One of the operatives turns to their leader, who says, “We have to stop them before they find the rest. Fisk won’t like it if we fail.” The leader is revealed to be Nick Fury, the man that created Avengers in The Avengers movie.
Post Credit Scene 2: Elektra is introduced to be a future character of an Daredevil sequel/future movie.
X-Men: United
Release Year: 2015
Main Villain: William Stryker
Story: The story is the same as the real life X-Men 2 movie that came out in 2003.
Details: In this movie X-Mens suits is more colorfull with more yellow details. In this movie X-Men team up with Brotherhood of mutants to defeat William Stryker. In the end Stryker dies by Wolverine. Also in this movie Pyro joins Brotherhood of mutants and Rouge and Angel are introduced but not in the X-Men lineup. In this movie Mystique escapes from prison in some way and later in the movie takes out the Brotherhood of mutants from prison and thats how they escapes prison. Also in this movie Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver are introduced as members of Brotherhood of mutants but in the end they join the X-Men.
Post Credit Scene: The suits that the X-Men wears in the comics gets introduced.
Thor
Release Year: 2015
Main Villain: Loki
Story: The story is the same as the real life Thor movie that came out in 2015.
Details: Everything is the same as the real life Thor movie but with a few changes and in the end Loki dies and will never return and he is dead forever. Also his death will be much more emotional. Thors suit is the same as the real life Thor movie and in this movie it will be very grounded and realistic.
Post Credit Scene: Hela is teased as a future main villain of an Thor movie.
WE SERIOUSLY NEED MORE OF THIS!!!
Basically spiderman hulk fantastic 4 and xmen would be the big hits at the beginning
I feel like it would be cool if there were movies that took place in between infinity war and endgame. A good idea for this is a movie where Hank Pym is depressed after the wasp vanishes, where he passes on the ant-man mantle to Scott Lang, while Pym himself becomes Yellowjacket
i don't think that the next saga should be the multiverse saga because the reason they did that was because they needed to bring in the xmen that way, but the xmen already exist in this world so
@kairaelstephen5788 maybe the next Saga could be the proper coming of Galactus since they drove him off instead of killing him in Rise of the Silver Surfer, and SS would also be dead, giving him another opportunity to have a new herald(s).
But I feel like either Galactus or Doctor Doom should have been the overarching villains of this version of the MCU since it'd feel less disjointed and confusing in this universe TBH.
Multiverse saga exists because of the popularity of other multiverse stories in the comics, which had been happening to many characters.
Please make a part 2 to this video!
2:19 I will not have this Howard the duck slander.
How do you imagine The Fantastic Four: First Steps would go down?
Can you PLEASE do a video on what a Spider-Man cinematic universe could look like? I know you did something similar for just the MCU, but this is something I’ve always wanted to see you do as it’s own thing with the infinity saga structure
Finally, a version of this idea on video, and not over explained it that it makes me feel exhausted in the first few minutes. Thank you. 😂
I would’ve preferred if the og 6 roster of the avengers were to be
Iron man
Thor
Hulk
Ant-man
Wasp
Spider-Man
Recruiting captain America at the end of the movie
Dude this is good …too good wait a minute are you a multiverse traveler?! Have you been to these worlds and that’s how you able to make these videos so good 🤯
I only didn't like that thor isn't a founder member, and could somehow put Ant-Man and wasp before avengers to make reference to the original formation from 60s. But anyway very nice
I had the idea that if Fox let Marvel use the Fantastic Four like Sony let them use Spider-Man, then Infinity War could have Sue tell Reed that she's pregnant and Reed is overjoyed. When Thanos snaps his fingers; Ben, Johnny, and Sue are turned to dust, with Reed being the only FF member left alive. Endgame would see him in a deep depression. More lonely and suicidal than Thor's mental and physical decline. He'd have grown a beard that he's sometimes shown with in the comics instead of his traditional clean-shaven look. He would be in Cap's group therapy session where we see how losing his family absolutely ruined him. He helps Tony figure out time travel (which would use the help of Wakandan Vibranium tech, leftover Pym Particles with Hank and Janet's shrink tech, Chitauri Energy Cores, and the imrpved Arc Reactor technology from Iron Man 2). He gets emotional seeing Tony's happy life with Pepper and Morgan and cries to himself after seeing what he almost had. Reed and Sue have a triumphant reunion in the final battle, similar to Hank finding Janet in the Quantum Realm in Ant-Man and the Wasp. Except this time it's more one-sided, as time seemingly never passed at all for Sue and she would comment on his new beard with confusion and he would just be so thankful to have her back. In the epilogue, we'd see the Four in a hospital room with a clean-shaven Reed holding his newborn son, Franklin, in his arms with tears of joy in his eyes. After so much pain in the past 5-6 years, he finally came out the other side a truly happy man.
Personally, I would have started with the Fantastic Four, the first family, and then have Spider-Man go to them like he does in his original Lee/Ditko comic origin, and start his friendship with Human Torch. This could also set up Doom early on to be a threat for a larger team up down the line. Then I would have done the X-Men and go from there.
Edit: I’m sorry, Daredevil and Punisher should not be part of the Midnight Sons/Midnight Suns. They should definitely be a more strictly mystical team. Maybe Doctor Strange, Ghost Rider, Blade, maybe Wanda. But the villain should be Nightmare or Mephisto, since he seemingly wasn’t used for Ghost Rider, which is where I thought you were going with that. A darker team with Ghost Rider, Daredevil, Blade, Punisher, and Elektra could be Marvel Knights or something, but that feels like a misuse of the Midnight Sons.
i personally think that strange should be with the avengers, while acting as a nick fury of sorts for the midnight sons. not directly involving with them, just advising and uniting. and the main team would be: blade, ghost rider, moon knight, punisher, werewolf by night and man-thing.
why punisher? he just works well in there. the ultimate outsider in a team otherwise full of supernatural creatures.
daredevil, in my MCU, is with the new/secret avengers. a temporal team of unregistered heroes led by cap america. everything while the thunderbolts are active under command of the US government and general ross, and tony is still recovering from the hero massacre he caused with the civil war.
Great video man, this was so fun to watch!
would like the big team up movies to just be called ultimate alliance or something like that since there’s more teams than just the avengers idk
You should do the next saga. I doubt it would remain multiverse centered, so I’d like to see your take on it
Can you do if the mcu had the X-men universe structure
i have a question man (awesome vid as per usual btw), so until 2008 what marvel or even dc movies WOULD we have by then? i can't imagine every marvel movie pre 2008 not existing it's too surreal for me😢.
Good video and universe but I think you may have missed out one thing and that is where the mainstay villains of the X-men go after the sequel as it seems like Magneto and his brotherhood of mutants never show up again after Wanda and Quicksilver leave and join the Avengers. I know it’s too much to probably ask since this took a lot of time and planning but they are big characters at the end of the day.
Also for Wanda’s no mutant spell, i’m pretty sure Dr. Strange and Emma Frost tried reversing that in the comics and it didn’t work however lets say at the beginning of the Dark Phoenix movie that Magneto and his brotherhood join up with the X-men after years of being M.I.A. to try and reverse Wanda’s spell after hearing about Jean unleashing the Phoenix and want to help and stop her but can’t do so without powers so they go to Dr. Strange who makes a cameo and with Emma Frost they actually succeed in the spell working and then that kicks starts the Dark Phoenix movie with the villains helping the X-men out til they too also get blipped away with only Magneto and like 1/3 of his brotherhood surviving the snap
One change I would make to this universe is that since you had the first Spider-Man movie basically be Raimi's Spider-Man 1 but with the TASM cast, that means that Harry exists in this universe.
So I would have him take the place of Doc Ock in his subsequent appearances since Ock should already be dead, with Harry becoming New Goblin and killing Gwen in the 3rd movie and ultimately redeeming and sacrificing himself in Ultimate to save Peter from the Sinister Six.
So ‘The Wolverine’ first solo film in your universe is Logan. Nah bad call
I’m sorry but to me it would be much thematically stronger if after Infinity War Sue Richards is left pregnant with their daughter and taking care of Franklin after the blip with Reed disappearing instead. Reed in the comics loves his family but has a hard time showing it explicitly because he is always thinking about too many things at once. Having a five year distance between him and his kids would be much more of a heavy loss and setup another film or even a mini series with them where he tries to rekindle the dynamics in a more family oriented adventure, also it could have introduced Namor trying to get with Sue and her questioning her own wants and needs but ultimately reaffirming her love for Reed.
My Version of MCU
Phase 1:
Amazing Spider man
X-men
Incredible Hulk
Iron man
Captain america
THOR
The Avengers
Phase 2:
Spectacular spider man
X-men: United
Iron man: Enter The Mandarin
Captain america: The Winter soldier
THOR: The Dark world
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Phase 3:
Planet Hulk
Captain america: Civil War
Blade
Ultimate Spider-man
Iron man: Armor Wars
X-men: Apocalypse
THOR: Ragnarok
Doctor strange
Avengers: Infinity war
Avengers: Endgame
this 28 minute video felt like I'm living in my parallel universe watching the whole MCU being the real Marvel.
1:27 why is big hero 6 there?
big hero 6 is a marvel property
@ oh ok thanks
moreover, why is man-thing not in the other 17?
Red Skull as an Avengers villain…thank you for mentioning that. I’m loving this video🤘
maybe in next video include inhumans, or have the likes of the guardians forming in a thor movie , and maybe expand on some defenders stuff and then introduce the champions and maybe she hulk etc
do another vid for the multiverse saga please
this is amazing
How does Guardians of the Galaxy work with Gamora dead and half of the characters already introduced?
true
Hey im first!!! Great vid as always! i love how youre updating your old vids. can you update youre x men cinematic universe please?
10:09 are you a Spider-Man comic book writer?
can you pleale make a part 2 you are so underrated you are so good at photoshop and this is one of my fav vids on your channel
Make a Spider-Man cinematic universe
loved this re done version of the original video and I'd love to see a part 2 about phase 4-6 with all the rights
Maybe for future videos could show what a potential multiverse saga looks like for some of your videos like you did for your video on the DCU. The X men cinematic universe, Batman cinematic, if DC didn't have the rights to their biggest characters would all be great to see
And continue Batman cinematic universe (BCU)
Really awesome timeline and great vid well done :). And also if I were to write the mcu in the exact same situation in this vid with all the characters and starting at the same year, I would have the avengers be set up as the government’s response to the x men. Non mutant hero team with the secret purpose of protecting America from a mutant rebellion.
This is a prime example on why fans should not write movies.
Yeah there's some ideas in here I think are cool but it's overall very messy and has some weird choices
@@jackcarpenter1132Its what Marvel would have done.
@@sitafuller497I doubt Marvel would sideline Wolverine (who is and was extremely popular) so hard
I beg to differ, I think he did an excellent job.
I beg to differ, I think he did an excellent job.
Great job man on making your version of the mcu with the movie rights it’s really good, especially with Spider-Man peter Parker and Mary Jane being married an having there daughter mayday Parker spider girl makes me so happy because I love that character she’s really awesome and badass in my opinion.
What if mcu & dcu shared a cinematic universe
I hope this gets a part 2 this time
I think its too much a detriment removing some of these projects as a series like Daredevil and removing Guardians of the Galaxy.
Daredevil worked better with the buildup and chance to flesh out characters, it wouldn’t be as great as a movie.
some of the changes i dont agree with (although understanding theyre prolly what marvel would have done in this world) but pretty good video overall man! keep it up
A bunch of people like to consider the X-Men and Spider-Man movies as part of the MCU cuz of their multiverse appearances.
I personally think that’s not true at all cause it’s called the Multiverse for a reason