They are certainly more difficult and demanding to ride than a bigger capacity bike or a fourstroke. One slight mistake and you could loose 10 positions on the track.
As I sit watching the start, it evokes memories of my past sitting track side in long grass. Listening to various choruses of machines warming up in the pits to the guys waiting for the green light on the start line. The smell as well, trampled grass, warm sun and the smell of two stroke in the air the occasional smell of a burger van tempting us in. I miss watching these manic machines and brave riders having fun.
Wow, da kommen Erinnerungen hoch. Ich finde es genial das solche rennen es noch gibt. Würde selbst als fahrer gerne antreten. Die Reifen sollten doch mehr kurvengeschwindigkeit erlauben? Mindestens so viel das dabei die Gabeln hopping bekommt. Ein traum, wie in den 80er
I had a 1977 Blue AP50 with straight bars and expansion chamber jetted big carb I loved it and went on to an X7 with much of the same thing then Suzuki brought out the RG Gamma and everything changed overnight, good times and so many great memories and friends 👍💯🔥👌
would wonder how my own 50cc stuntbike would compare, it's a derbi senda Xtreme with a 50cc doppler kit. Makes 15.1hp on the dyno. I heard these things make like 20hp.
@@jerongerrits9914 Hij is hartstikke Nederlands en heet Klaas. Zijn zoon en dochter racen ook in de 50cc klasse. Zoek eens op de HMV en CRT. Beiden organiseren dit soort Demo's.races. Kijk ook eens op de flickr pagina van Theo en Annemarie (zoek op Google). Zij fotograferen dit soort evenementen al meer dan 12 jaar. Ook op dit evenement waren zij erbij, al staan er maar een paar foto's van op. Alle foto's zijn te downloaden.
@@thinge27 waar worden dit soort wedstrijden gehouden? Zijn deze oude racers nog te verkrijgen ergens 2de hands of is dit volledig zelfbouw? Zou erg graag meer info willen. Alvast bedankt.
@@alfiesolomons1179 Dit soort races worden nog regelmatig gehouden. Meestal op stratencircuits, binnenkort weer op een paar locaties. Kijk bijvoorbeeld eens bij de HMV, CRT, RMM of BOT en SAM...of MCRT......kijk op hun facebook groepen of pagina's. Op de websites staan de agenda's en komende evenementen/.De meeste racers zijn nagebouwde exemplaren en soms origineel. Alles is ook wel te koop, maar niet altijd goedkoop, maar dat kan wel......er mee racen kost bij bv de HMV slechts 55 euro per jaar en dan nog een klein bedrag per wedstrijd. Dan heb je een startlicentie en een verzekering. Datzelfde geldt voor het CRT.....Bij de genoemde clubs, behalve bij het MCRT zijn het demo wedstrijden en gaat het om de regelmatigheid en minder om de snelheid.......Kijk eens op mijn facebooekgroep "Vrienden van de Historische Motorsport Vereniging" Daar kun je alles vragen wat je wilt weten....Groet.
@@alfiesolomons1179 Overigens, deze race, wat wel een echte race is in Luttenberg wordt dit jaar weer gehouden op 18 september aanstaande Alfie.....zoek even op internet...luttenbergring.nl/
He has a thing called driving skills, it makes you remember what gear you are in by driving an sequential gearbox for some time, of course if our an automatic guy I can see how this seems incredible to you, but trust me, it`s not magic, you just need to focus on what your dooing. And you need to learn to count in the first place, it only has 6 gears...
@@kevinpnovak indeed, the highest point of torque isn't in the upper range, I guess his highest torque moment is between 12K and 14K. So as a racer stay as much as possible in that range
In the 60s and early 70s the little 50cc of the day had 14-16 gears and many could rev on to 18000rpm there was twins and even a triple 50cc but things change and the Japanese were back on a more level playing field and East and West Germany and lots of European countries joined in and it got lively again for a while then more rules and regs and it slowly but surely killed it off which is so sad for such an entertaining class...
shutup ahaha it's literally a piston that fits in your palms and sounds like a chainsaw while outputting no power at all. sure, powerband, but what's that "power"? 10 hp?
@@maartenyzer4121 realy???? Respekt! What components do you use? Can you make a Video from a race engine? Im very interested :) Greetings from an other 2-Stroke tuner
Qué tendrán las 50cc que andan tanto? Escape, la caja, el embrague, carburador, deben estar preparadísimas milimétricamente y acá lo más arriesgado que se le hace es limar la admisión y el escape, pero que no se te pase sino se te rompen los aros💅🏽💅🏽
@@mrGW yes they can. My taotao scooter cruised at 9500rpm constant. A normal dirt bike have a idle at 1800-2000 rpm and a revlimiter around 12-14 depending on the year
I love the rev-counter, starting the gauge at 8000 rpm
@motorsportsspecialists78 nobody gives a shit about your 300kmh run
@motorsportsspecialists78 oh shit shoots fired
Its called a tach
@motorsportsspecialists78 nice one i whish a had a bike like that...
Tacho starts at 8k! Some four bangers would have bent a valve by then. :P
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Yeah but this is 2 stroke so no valves needed. ;-)
@@DrInsane76 Hence me specially mentioning four bangers. Four bangers are four strokes HTH :)
@@Froobyone four bangers is what I found my ex in bed with, 4 Stroke / 2 Stroke is what I wish I had the money to afford.
@Froobyone If you compare to a Truck engine then yes ;)
I love the 50cm³. The highest specific power output and surely very difficult to ride. Very sad that this class was stopped so long ago in GP-Racing.
Because it's less of an art to ride and more of an art to create/tune
They are certainly more difficult and demanding to ride than a bigger capacity bike or a fourstroke. One slight mistake and you could loose 10 positions on the track.
@@kasperkjrsgaard1447 it's a 50 dude shut up LMAO
These mis shifts hurts 😫😅
Great video, was fun to try to guess gears, loved that you went for 7th gear on top end! I’ve done that, 2 strokes are such lovely engines.
As I sit watching the start, it evokes memories of my past sitting track side in long grass. Listening to various choruses of machines warming up in the pits to the guys waiting for the green light on the start line. The smell as well, trampled grass, warm sun and the smell of two stroke in the air the occasional smell of a burger van tempting us in. I miss watching these manic machines and brave riders having fun.
Your comment brought me so much nostalgia.
Ah.......high revving two strokes, reminds me of my youth driving tuned 50cc bikes such as Yamaha and Zündapp. Such sweet memories.
blooming love this reminds me of riding my AR80 with 90cc bore kit racing reeds and race exhaust going home on the lanes
Yea I had one too 1986 ar 50, then 80cc engine , then kx 125 engine, was the fastest in my school 5 years running , miss those days
Wow, da kommen Erinnerungen hoch. Ich finde es genial das solche rennen es noch gibt. Würde selbst als fahrer gerne antreten. Die Reifen sollten doch mehr kurvengeschwindigkeit erlauben? Mindestens so viel das dabei die Gabeln hopping bekommt. Ein traum, wie in den 80er
Can't say my "fifty" went anything like that but it defo had as many neutrals 😂....mint to see them suped up hedge trimmers though!
These look like a blast.... You can go as fast as you want anywhere and everywhere but you'll never go faster than the speed limit. LoL
What a little rev monster!! This is racing at its best!!!
Looks like great fun
Any info on power and top speed?
Way better than my old Suzuki ac50
Plenty of neutrals in amongst those six speeds.
Used to thrash my AP50. 58mph on a downhill.
I had a 1977 Blue AP50 with straight bars and expansion chamber jetted big carb I loved it and went on to an X7 with much of the same thing then Suzuki brought out the RG Gamma and everything changed overnight, good times and so many great memories and friends 👍💯🔥👌
5:31..18000 rpm
No shit and this thing idles at 8k
(Or maybe less)
Maybe more, ahahahaaha.
@@GhostOfDamned i think it idles on les than 8000 but there no rpms under 8000 on gauge
@@GhostOfDamned not really
how much rpm do you want ?
He : Yess
Love how clean that sounds...14000 bungs a minute .
5:01 Am6
the structure that holds the finish line sets the right tone!
Limite, cocotte minute, 90 degré 💫✨❤️, merci à motoplat pour nous offrir cela
You are living the dream!
Sehr sauber eingestellt dreht sauber hoch... Super Arbeit. Mfg Stefan Bartz
would wonder how my own 50cc stuntbike would compare, it's a derbi senda Xtreme with a 50cc doppler kit. Makes 15.1hp on the dyno. I heard these things make like 20hp.
Wow
I wanna know how tf you get 15 HP out of that cylinder, what have you put on that bike?
@@mikkelkajgaard783maybe with a rotor ,bigger carb and performance exhaust
They also have 14 gears, you probably wouldn't stand a chance acelaration whise
@@rodrigoribeiro3780 mine has 6. Top speed of 121kmh op gps. But i wont win when they have 14 gears haha
I so much would love to see what this bike looks like. Does anyone have more information e.g. Where is this race held and who was the rider, etc.
super filmpje, wist niet dat er nog 50cc racen werden gehouden, waar vind ik hier meer info over ?
Waarschijnlijk is hij niet Nederlands 😂
@@jerongerrits9914 Hij is hartstikke Nederlands en heet Klaas. Zijn zoon en dochter racen ook in de 50cc klasse. Zoek eens op de HMV en CRT. Beiden organiseren dit soort Demo's.races. Kijk ook eens op de flickr pagina van Theo en Annemarie (zoek op Google). Zij fotograferen dit soort evenementen al meer dan 12 jaar. Ook op dit evenement waren zij erbij, al staan er maar een paar foto's van op. Alle foto's zijn te downloaden.
@@thinge27 waar worden dit soort wedstrijden gehouden? Zijn deze oude racers nog te verkrijgen ergens 2de hands of is dit volledig zelfbouw? Zou erg graag meer info willen.
Alvast bedankt.
@@alfiesolomons1179 Dit soort races worden nog regelmatig gehouden. Meestal op stratencircuits, binnenkort weer op een paar locaties. Kijk bijvoorbeeld eens bij de HMV, CRT, RMM of BOT en SAM...of MCRT......kijk op hun facebook groepen of pagina's. Op de websites staan de agenda's en komende evenementen/.De meeste racers zijn nagebouwde exemplaren en soms origineel. Alles is ook wel te koop, maar niet altijd goedkoop, maar dat kan wel......er mee racen kost bij bv de HMV slechts 55 euro per jaar en dan nog een klein bedrag per wedstrijd. Dan heb je een startlicentie en een verzekering. Datzelfde geldt voor het CRT.....Bij de genoemde clubs, behalve bij het MCRT zijn het demo wedstrijden en gaat het om de regelmatigheid en minder om de snelheid.......Kijk eens op mijn facebooekgroep "Vrienden van de Historische Motorsport Vereniging" Daar kun je alles vragen wat je wilt weten....Groet.
@@alfiesolomons1179 Overigens, deze race, wat wel een echte race is in Luttenberg wordt dit jaar weer gehouden op 18 september aanstaande Alfie.....zoek even op internet...luttenbergring.nl/
Wie viele Gänge haben die dinger denn? 7-8? 😅😂
How many horse power and km/h does this make?
I could be wrong but I think around 20hp someone will correct me
@@jr6874 if it's right it's absolutely incredible?
@@iacopotuttino5515 the later ones yeah would be getting 20hp...but they would be at 18,000rpm. This bike not revving as hard.
What's the point of the revving in the beginning? Is it for heating up the engine or something or just for show?
Please give me alink to where i can find more info on this race
The up shift is at 14k! And how do you keep a count of 7 gears ⚙️ ?
He has a thing called driving skills, it makes you remember what gear you are in by driving an sequential gearbox for some time, of course if our an automatic guy I can see how this seems incredible to you, but trust me, it`s not magic, you just need to focus on what your dooing. And you need to learn to count in the first place, it only has 6 gears...
You don’t need to keep track of them, just watch the rev counter and stay above 10500
@4:24 That will be the tastiest sweetcorn on the planet .....2 stroke flavour 😊
What a lovely sound. The “tick over” at 8000 is into the red line on my car. Great pity 2 strokes became persona non grata.!,
wie organiseerd dit ?
Seems like the video is playing in slow motion without the rpm gauge. Good race though.
I could almost smell them as they pulled away from the startline.
I just love those 2 chicanes.
that moped idle @ 8k?
Paar straten afsluiten in Nederland en je hebt een circuit..
Dat kunnen ze best eens een keer doen!👍
@@KartonnenDoos76 Dat doen ze tientallen keren per jaar......zoek op HMV, CRT en RMM
Pakt erg mooi op ! Chapeau 👏
I don’t know how I got here but I love it
Surprised more didn't oil there plug with the wait.
what is your transmission relation?
Race starts at 3:05
Honda v-tec eigenaar: mijn toerenteller gaat tot 9500.
50cc rijder: wat zeg je?
😂
honda 4 tact gaat tot 20.000 tpm dit zijn motoren toch?
Excelente trabajo saludos desde Argentina
Wo kann ich den Drehzahlmesser kaufen?/where can i get the rev counter?
Why shift up only at 14,000?
Why not higher?
I believe it's the torque
@@kevinpnovak indeed, the highest point of torque isn't in the upper range, I guess his highest torque moment is between 12K and 14K. So as a racer stay as much as possible in that range
It's on the top of the power curve so higher rpm does give less power
5:01 🙏💥
5:31
Netherlands? Or Belgium?
In the 60s and early 70s the little 50cc of the day had 14-16 gears and many could rev on to 18000rpm there was twins and even a triple 50cc but things change and the Japanese were back on a more level playing field and East and West Germany and lots of European countries joined in and it got lively again for a while then more rules and regs and it slowly but surely killed it off which is so sad for such an entertaining class...
this is the magic of two stroke engines
shutup ahaha it's literally a piston that fits in your palms and sounds like a chainsaw while outputting no power at all. sure, powerband, but what's that "power"? 10 hp?
Yeah love this song!
Qué preciosidad de motos muchas gracias 😉👏👏👏👏
Miss a lot of shifts
5:31 do you keep it under 14k rpm for reliability? or does it not produce power beyond that even though it got to 18k so easily by accident
Espectacular 👌🏻
Wow.....how fast were you driving??
about 180 km h
@@maartenyzer4121 realy???? Respekt! What components do you use? Can you make a Video from a race engine? Im very interested :) Greetings from an other 2-Stroke tuner
8k tick over ?
that sound 😍😍😍
Сколько скоростей ?
6 скорее всего
Mi ciclomotor sonaba igual con la preparación que tenía... Ufff... qué recuerdos!!!
Very good...pretty impressive.
2T ❤️😂😎
how horsepower?
lovely bike, sounds and footage. Any ideas as to what this was recorded on?
Prob gopro
Tuesday
Sachs
5:02 it's a AM6
Lol because of the misshift? I remember the shifting on my old moped. You had to kick it to get into next gear
@@Nelis1992 yes thats make me laugh
@@enzoberthe3540 i know. I had a Motorhispania Rx50. Also am6 engine. I believe the Derbi engines shifted better
@@Nelis1992 yeah i think too
what is the top speed?
Between 160 and 200 for lots of them......
18000 u/min. 😳
Yeah,Incredible...
Obrotomierz od 8 tys, ładnie się kręci.
Guys what's the top speed in these angry mosquitos?
Maybe 75 mph
@@mk3ferret impressive!
I got monoxide poisoning waiting for the race to start
Ждал когда же он догонит впереди идущих.👍👍👍😄
Those are tiny little 50cc bikes but when it's 2 stroke it feels like riding on 500cc 4 stroke bike
7 Guears?
Yes
Qué tendrán las 50cc que andan tanto? Escape, la caja, el embrague, carburador, deben estar preparadísimas milimétricamente y acá lo más arriesgado que se le hace es limar la admisión y el escape, pero que no se te pase sino se te rompen los aros💅🏽💅🏽
I love power but this is totally cool 👍👍👍😎
beautyfull 50 Sachs , i 50 bidalot 21HP with mikuni vm26 , 50cc twoostroke 😉👍
omg der fängt ei 8.000 erst an zu leben! Ich will auch eins!!! 💙💙💙
Tach starts at 8 grand, love it.
Uhhhhhhhhh !!!después de 14000 pura adrenalina !!!
Increíble beautifull 👌👍
What is Umdr/min????? Help please
Umdrehungen pro Minute. Translated: RPM
@@Gorbatsjov27 Oh, Thanks
Start at 3:08
Great fun! Cool video.
I can almost smell the castrol R
You know its serious business when the rev counter starts at 8000 rpm and goes all the way to 18 K rpm 🤣😅👍👌
7speed gearbox?
Awesome 😎
nice running machine...
50cc Hp?Psi?
Just take your time and let your brain get "around" this one:
You can/could "cruse" at 8/10k rpm on a 2stroke...
well... a 4t can do that too you know?
@@skrotis9737 no
@@mrGW yes they can. My taotao scooter cruised at 9500rpm constant. A normal dirt bike have a idle at 1800-2000 rpm and a revlimiter around 12-14 depending on the year
Non dovresti usare la frizione per cambiare le marce, e le sfollate!?, comunque complimenti sento che il motore gira forte!
loopt mooi dat ding
Magnifique 👌🤪
Magnifique 👌💪👍🤟😉
Nostalgie vaak nog met eerste eigenaar erop
That's a fast 50!
They idling at 8k rpm ? That is higher than my car redline lol
what are these things!?!
This looks fun!