Suffragette Anniversary - The Last Leg
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- The panel discuss the 100 years since some women gained the rights to vote.
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It wasn't full voting rights either. It was only married women over 30. Women didn't get the same voting rights as men until 1928
They did mention that
Which is interesting considering we had female monarchs prior.
@@Vortiporius_ But that wasn't done through democracy, it was all about blood lines and first borns.
@rick It was also wrong that ordinary men couldn't vote either. But any man had the vote before women and some men had the vote from 1832. And what do you mean about woman's track record not justifying their inclusion in the vote?
select men got to vote, all men got the vote the same time as the 1918 bill to allow women to vote, its always been more about class than gender, if you were poor, male or female you didnt matter
That "crikey to streuth" line gets me every time
Josh is totally right too
In 1866, Parliament debated a bill that would give the vote to "respectable working men", but exclude the "feckless and criminal poor". This sparked fierce debate, led to the fall of one government and the rise of another, sparked mass public demonstrations, and inspired criticism that the proposals either went too far or not far enough. Eventually, the result was the Second Reform Act of 1867.
This gave the vote to all men who personally paid rates (property tax) in Britain's towns and cities. In effect, it enfranchised the head of household in every family, including working class households. Originally the Act had been intended to only enfranchise home-owners, but a parallel law passed soon after made tenants liable to pay the rates on the property they rented: so in effect, this measure enfranchised them too since they became rate-payers.
The 1867 Reform Act doubled the number of voters in England and Wales from one in seven men to almost 30% of them.
The Third Reform Act of 1884 extended the same wider franchise to the countryside as the 1867 Act had introduced in the boroughs. Since mediaeval times, England had different franchises in different parts of the country: this law abolished that in favour of a single uniform franchise. The 1884 Act again doubled the size of the electorate from 30% to over 60% of all adult men. It enfranchised the rural working class.
The 1918 Representation of the People Act, passed during the First World War, abolished the property qualification entirely and finally brought in universal suffrage for adult men. The men who received the vote by this law were the non-householders - crucially, this included soldiers who lived in barracks, since it was felt to be wholly unjust that they should be denied a vote when they were currently fighting for their country. The 1918 Act also gave the vote to women, though on a more limited basis than men. This discrimination was abolished ten years later in 1928 when women received full universal suffrage.
A+
And so many people don't know this.
to be honest guys, New Zealand bet all of you for this back in 1893
dave maginness I was just about to say that, Kiwi Pride!
I was just checking that someone had said this. Go Kiwis!
Still didn't beat the Isle of Man though, 1881 for them XD such a progressive little island :P
Wasn't homosexuality illegal in the Isle of Man until the 90s? Or is that just a myth? Hooray for NZ though!
The 1881 date for Isle of Man, was only for property owners. NZ had universal suffrage in 1893, Meaning all adult citizens regardless of race or gender could vote.
Thank you for saying some women
My wimmins hands can fit all the way down a pringles tube :) I didn't realise for ages that other people weren't so privileged and had to tip em out and make a mess.
The diameter of a Pringles can is way too small.
True privilege is having a mouth big enough to fit around the tube so you can just pour them in.
Spanish Inquisition bo yo
‘Any bird who wants to chain herself to my railing and suffer a jet movement! , gets my vote.’ Lord Flash Heart. 😂😂
To be honest I live in Guildford, and if anyone said that to anyone I know they would be crucified
Name of the girl on the right?
1893 in my country. But then the ozzie guy lost a war against emus.
But not full voting rights. Australia bet NZ there due to South Australia requiring this as a requirement for federation.
Slightly inaccuracy regarding the Suffragettes not highlighted there. At the time, woman who wanted the vote were either Suffragists (Peaceful protesters) and the term 'Suffragettes' was coined specifically -for the other group- only to look down on those who had decided that it was a time for action and wanted the vote through violent protests.
(Also- just being a nerd for detail- not being political)
Still not entirely accurate; suffragists were women _and men_ campaigning for enfranchisement. The Chartists had been campaigning since the mid 1800's.
Thanks for that correction. :D
Thanks for being so graceful in accepting it. This could have gotten ugly real fast. !D
i wish people understood that equality and social justice are not the same thing.
lily Pie in what way?
in this day and age they are exactly the same thing
@@blueozzie4263 Afraid not. Equality is a term codified into western thought centuries ago, traditionally defined in the context of negative rights. You have the equal freedom, granted by god or your natural place in the world without society, to do as you please without government intervention. We now have a new constructed idea that negative rights are superior and have extended that notion to all things. So you no longer have the free right to choose for yourself, even is that means success or failure, now governments think it right to make sure the outcome is identical for everyone. As I'm sure you can appreciate, this has many problems: limitations upon free speech, and the freedoms of individuals. These are at a very fundamental level two kinds of 'equality'.
I haven't brought a Valentine's Day card for my husband in 18 years, I just let him live another year... Fair.
In 1838 Kentucky passed the first women's suffrage law.
Great show! In this country, we don't celebrate the Suffragettes for their hard work to get the vote here in the Untied States. We should celebrate them.
Great going, ladies!
Genuine system used by a number of companies. If something hasn't sold well, they are released in pink to sell.
Really sad part, it almost always works. This is where sexism in companies is only matched by women themselves.
This is genuinely why I never buy a product which is only available in pink.
what does he not know ?
This phrase "strong women," still bothers me hugely. Why isn't it an imediate assumption that strength goes with being a woman??? I din't get it!?
women are still being harmed/murdered for speaking up against those with authority/influence ... 103 years ago - many women and their loved ones suffered for their rights - and it still the case - fortunately, good men back and support their efforts... and clothes of the same size and quality and design are always more expensive in women's
The pay gap is stupid, everyone at my company is paid differently based on our skill and time spent at the company/experience. If you did exactly the same with with exactloy the same experience that's when you should be paid the same.
Yup, it irks me whenever people mention the non-existent pay gap.
@@juliebercow7952 the pay gap exists, the argument is that women choose lower paying jobs or choose to take more time off for children compared to men and this alone results in the pay gap
@@margaretelford8309 Correct, in lazy shorthand I meant the idea of a gendered and discriminatory pay gap doesn't exist
Why aren't they discussing the Suffragists but just the Suffragettes?
Exactly! They were the true heroes. The suffragettes did nothing but turn people against giving women the right to vote, including women at the time.
Me: Equal opportunity (i.e. voting rights) is essential.
Me also: Equal outcome (i.e. gender quotas) is madness.
Absolutely correct. Merit over quota.
Of course it would be ideal if we lived in a society with no need for gender quotas, but the fact is that sometimes women are passed on for a job simply because they are women, and that’s not okay.
@@margaretelford8309 in a perfect world people would be equal, were not, everyone has advantages and disadvantages, males are physically minded and usually more practical and hands on, women are more analytical and distanced, women are better specialists in many fields and men are better suited in more physically demanding roles, the pay gap falls into this category
low income jobs that are male dominated are typically more dangerous, dirty and harder than the low income jobs that women typically get, its also true that women in management roles have been shown to be less likely to hire women and promote them, unsure as to why this phenomena exists but it is rife through many industries
@@nzstump0152 so your argument is “it just so happens that we pay the careers men are naturally better at more”?
Is it just me... I so wanted those hula hoops to be real!!!!!
#GirlPower
Go women!
I make all cards at home.
That's great keep it up
Yep he’s painted some sellotapes 🤣😂🤣🤣 lmfao
Once you pop, you must hop.
Isle of Man thanks for leading the way!....
i mean im grateful and all but they were all proper racist and classist lol
All of them, or some of them?
Why??? Im not seeing it
You shouldn't be cheering Saudi Arabia for doing something that most of the world had achieved a hundred years ago, the appropriate response is "about fucking time!" They still don't let women drive, own property, have a job, or be outside without a man accompanying them. We shouldn't be congratulating them on reaching a stage we as a nation reached ages ago, we should be telling them to get a move on.
What's the Caramel beauty's name?
Fingaz Mc Maya Jama
@@ElizaFroot Thank you :)
Not all the way yet? Oh I'm sorry, what rights do men have that women don't?
Jack Star they’re not necessarily talking about our country - in the Middle East I’m pretty sure woman aren’t allowed to vote, and in Saudi Arabia they’ve only just been allowed to drive. They’re not talking about first world white women, they’re talking about women as a whole.
Equal education...
Jack Star They're talking about worldwide women so equal education, voting rights, independence in general, rights to do what they want with their own body, seen just as capable as men etc
It’s not just rights, it’s about experiencing sexism day-to-day, less likely to get a job than a men etc
Hey, that chick interviewed Jeff Goldblum lol
Another thing I am pissed about is that men have to lower their wages (bbc I am looking at you) for women??? why not just give the women the same as the 'men'.
Because they're not doing the same job. For example, Carrie Gracie, the BBC editor in China who famously quit, failed to mention that when she first took the post, she was on a higher salary than both the Middle East and North America editors at the time. It was only when Jon Sopel (having already accumulated a higher salary as a correspondent, editor and presenter) stepped in as North America editor that it seemingly became an issue, because in spite of the fact that he was sometimes working double the air-time in peak times on a 24-hour rolling schedule rather than the more sedentary features-based agenda Gracie was on at the China office, she apparently expected him to accept a pay cut for taking on a promotion and _more_ work? What Earthly sense does that make?
They cant afford it - the gap is too big at this point.
What world are you living in that anyone would just raise someone's wages when lowering them will do?
The Valentine's cards for men are more expensive because the print runs are much shorter.
Your pay gap is ONLY 9% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bad news lady you won't get paid the same as him you are only a guest.
Hurry up and get sir andrew murray on
#girlpower
I'm looking very forward to the feminist line of "This woman can't be speaking about women's rights while objectifying herself and showing her legs." As a side note, why are her legs so bloody shiny?
Spandex.
Why are you looking at her legs, weirdo?
Not so much "looking at", as happened to notice
I see you dont really know feminism. True feminist dresses as she likes. And does not care what others say, even men.
There seems to be many different forms of feminism. In the same way that saying feminism is about equality when really it isn't
An easy one for you guys must be Assange. Where is your commentary on this international human right abomination. Julian is white, he is in our face, he is from the west, he is honest, he is educated, he has principles, and he is white. Outside of the fact that his whiteness means nothing to him, he is Australian, so half a leg Adam, where is your support for this real international hero
I'm all for equal rights but why not address the way Islam treats women? Why does religion get a free pass?
Islam is pretty gender equal, it's the cultures that give it a bad name (looking at you, Saudi Arabia)
"The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females", yeah very equal.
oldskoolmacboy yes and in the bible women are the traitors who must be punished with horrific pain during childbirth because Eve ate a fruit, all of these holy books are so backwards and non reflective of modern values.
I agree
their isn't a gender pay gap adam if women do the same jobs for the same hours as men do (whitch they tend not to) they get payed the same
Castle there is a gender pay gap. Yes women have the same jobs and work same hours but they are payed less than men because people think men are worth more.
No its been ileagal since the 1970s if anyone did do that they get fined
It was the Georgian era were men were alould to vote untl 19th the rest is histroy.
There is no gender pay gap. Do some research before you just say rubbish!
Check that male privilege before you spout bullshit.
Angela Ryan male privilege, yet another feminist myth. How people believe in such things is beyond understanding.
Maybe you're blinded by something...?
Angela Ryan or perhaps you just believe anything, with no actually evidence
Argument from incredulity, aka M A L E P R I V I L E G E
Yeah, well done Saudi Arabia, but you took a step backwards in road safety in 2017.
:-D
NDRonin1401 Dont even joke about this.
You should have said reverse gear
Why is she SOOO Orange who would choose to look like that??
Bird at the end of the bench...her legs are so shiny, I thought she was wearing leather pants.
Country has been going downhill ever since
Jack Star ahh yeah I remember the good old days of 1910 too, what a year!
Who hurt you?
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