I Make The HEAVIEST Golf Club EVER! THIS THING FEELS AMAZING!
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- I Make The HEAVIEST Golf Club EVER! THIS THING FEELS AMAZING! I Make The HEAVIEST Golf Club EVER!!!! The Heaviest Iron EVER!... THIS FEELS INSANE!!! Golf club manufactures are making golf clubs that go further and further every year... and a big part of this is the weight of the club. as long as you can still swing it fast a heavier object will produce more power than a lite one to hit longer golf shots. the taylormade p790 iron, the Callaway apex irons, Titleist t100 titlest t200 and Titleist t300 irons, the Mizuno jpx iron... all of these are designed to hit a golf ball as far as possible... on this channel I like to take things to the extreme... we had the zero lofted iron, we have had a fully loaded TaylorMade m5 weighted driver, Rick Shiels did the grooveless wedge and now... we see this... I add a load of weight to a ping blueprint iron and see just how much difference it makes, maybe these will be the best irons of 2019, or will it be an epic golf fail?... lets do it... and lets do it now!
That's it....I'm taping a rock to the back of all my clubs for the added distance. Bahahaha
I welded a "big" glob on the backs of my iron. Tried the wedges, very difficult to control. Clubs looked great, but now, I have to get a 68 degree wedge for 10 yard chip. Any one want my clubs? I'll let um go cheap. Tommy Armorers with welded globs? They get a lot of attention in tournaments. (from the marshals)
100%! I hit my stock 8 iron 138 yrs carry. Added 20 g. Lead tape. BOOM. 168 yd.carry.. Crazy. I am strong. And can't feel weight of clubhead . This fixes tempo and makes me aware of where the club head is in space with minimal grip pressure! Awesome.
Hi James. I am taking my Callaway MB 21 irons up Two swing weights, IE D2 to D4 as I cannot feel the head weight very well.I guess this will also get the shaft flexing a little more. Can not wait to try them. Cheers for this vid..
I'm glad you did this video! I started golfing over 50 years ago with, obviously, an old set of clubs. The woods WERE woods. and the irons were blade style. My old persimmon driver hit about 230 yds. all over the place. I worked in a factory where I used a "deadblow" hammer( a rubber coated mallet with an internal weight to follow contact to reduce rebounding. I took off the grip and poured an ounce of lead shot down the shaft followed with a lot of Elmers glue. This narrowed my pattern down by 50%, and added 20 yds to my distance. Now that I've improved my clubs many times to larger "nonwoods" and also lighter irons, I can't find the right balls to fit my clubs' performance level.
Hi James, why don’t you try put weights on a putter ?
Or a sand wedge to see if comes out easier?⛳️🏌🏻♂️
I have just added some weights to an old putter. Feels good but haven't had the chance to try it yet.
Back in the 1960s, I learned on a set of Spalding forged blades. The pro I took lessons from decided they were too light for me and added lead tape to the back of them to bring the swing weights up from a C8 to a D5. His philosophy was to let the weight of the club head do the work. Helped me get the ball in the air more consistently. Also it turned me into an iron player. I took up the game again 7 years ago and play with men's clubs +1" length - Cobra F9 One Lengths also D5.
I’ve been thinking of adding lead tape to my 4 iron to try and get an extra 10’. Otherwise, I’ll stick with using a hybrid in place of the 4 iron. I just love the looks of my irons and hate the looks of my hybrids (but they do produce).
Amazing video! Moe Norman always said hit the heaviest clubs you can find.
Yes, Moe Norman favorite irons have full of lead tapes like that.
James, go find a set of Goldwin Nick Price irons. I think they came from the factory around E-5 swingweight. The total weight of the iron is lower, but with a high swing weight. You can absolutely blister them!! Cheers!
There’s a lot more to it and also has a lot to do with shaft droop and bend at impact. Droop could actually be helping you hit the sweet spot more resulting in a better strike which equals distance and feel. Heavier head just helps people time up better but swinging for a full round can have negative effects on energy if you start to hit rather than swing the club.
Roger Federer uses a 366g racquet, the pro tour average is 320-335g?. I am not surprised by the results of adding weight and I would also suggest a likely improvement in the feel/feedback of wedges? it negates vibration and twisting improving stability @impact. As has been shown the best way to find your ideal custom set-up is to benchmark.
Tom Wishon when he fits clubs, he goes heavy till the shots go bad then backs off till person finds the swing weight that gives the player his best numbers.
Some like heavier some like light, I like a bit of weight behind my clubs as it helps me stay in a swing rhythm when I go lighter I find I over swing and shots get erratic.
I know this video is old, but I’m glad I found it!
Back in the early 90s, the Goldwin AVDP irons were E-2, I believe. They were milled from billet aluminum and they felt soooooo good.
Give them a try (if you can find a set).
I subscribed! Nice video!!
Which ones? Winged sole? Oversize? I’m curious and want to try them, eBay has got nothing…a couple of singles
all the guys had practice clubs with sand or lead powder poured down the shaft. lighter clubs are relatively new to golf. the old steel shafts were so heavy and stiff the club head had to be heavy as well. when i was a kid we all had tape on our clubs. it was fun to play around with how it changed ball flight
You don't need to put lead tape on the back of your irons, you can use lead weights specifically designed to fit at the bottom of the shaft. Of course, this necessitates removing the heads, but once you know what swing weight you like, the appropriate weight lead shaft tip weight can be inserted. They are sold in different weights, from 2 grams (One swing weight point) up to 10 grams (Five swing weight points). Easy and cosmetically better.
awesome review James...you nailed it
At 5:57 "you do really have to WEIGHT for it"... you missed that opportunity!!
Fun video!
Craaaazy video. You’re right it sounds like an amazing way to fix up the tempo and speed of the swing. Thanks James👍🏻 hopefully that’s gonna raise my game and lower my handicap and just get me enjoying my game loads more🤪
I like the feel of a heavy club head. That doesn't mean the club is heavy, just that I can tell there is some weight at the end of the club. There are various ways to do that these days without adding lead tape. You can order clubs with heavy swing weight, get fitted first though. You can lighter shafts and lighter grips. Both will make the feel of the club more head heavy. Again get fitted for all of this.
Congratulations James. 60,000 subscribers👍
I have a Titleist 915 driver with a dynamic gold 300 are shaft. It weighs 365 g. It is the easiest driving for me to hit. At least swing speed is not that much difference from my normal driver. Like you said it’ swings itself. I found the same thing with my irons.
What do I look for in an iron? A Mizuno logo pretty much 🤣 That, and a D5 swing weight. job done.
Check out Moe Norman’s thoughts on club weighting. He swung E3 vs today’s clubs at around D1 to D2. Longer shafts, larger grips and tons of weight added to the head. All in a quest for consistency and control. I play my best when I can feel the head of the club, so light grips and shafts with maybe one strip of lead tape and 1/2” longer. Gives me a higher swing weight but with a light overall weight.
I play all my clubs heavy my driver is a d 5 swingweight my irons are between D7 and D9 love the heavyweight and the feel keeps you from pulling the club too fast just wait for it I find if I play a club that's too light I'm all over the face if it's a little heavier I seem to be more consistent with the strike
Yep exactly. And you have more confidence because you can hit the sweet spot thus swinging more aggressively with the lower body.
I have tape on my 50* wedge not loads like yours but head is nice and heavy my chipping has improved a mile i seem to hit the middle basically every time and judging chips around the green is a lot easier feel is much better. Give it a go james but try it 1 piece of tape at a time until you get the feel.
go buy an old honma cl-505 iron - the 11 iron head is just over 300 grams.. swing smooth with slow tempo and shoot darts...!
Is there a "heavy" performance iron set out there that you can buy off shelf?
G410 feel really heavy
just have them swing weighted. There are weights to put in the end of the shaft to get a heavier club
Wow, that was interesting 🤔
I've got lead tape on every club in my bag except driver... BUT ACTUAL LEAD TAPE FROM A ROLL NOT THE WALMART STUFF lol..... I added 70grams to my putter... It's 29" 415 grams
Have you measured the swing weight before and after
Gerry a 67year old golfer. I have a 90mph swing speed with my driver, but its swing weight is D9.5 and I average 260yds with this club. I love heavy clubs.
Hey James! I'd love to see you do this weight test with the Titleist TS3 Driver and going between the STD weight, +2, +4, and +6. Not as extreme as the other tests and could be more usable weight additions to the head. It obviously changes swing weight but what would it do to ball speed and smash factor. Been toying with the idea of adding 2 to 4 grams to my TS3. Would love to see what effect it has in test where we can see the numbers.
Great video James. I'd like to see a weighted putter, I wonder if it could help get through the ball straighter.
The Toulon putters allow you change out to a heavier sole plate, upto tungsten. You can also back weight to tune the release.
Maxing out both makes the putter feel like a lead bar.
Exactly what Moe Norman figured out long ago and why all his clubs had massive amounts of lead tape all over the heads and huge grips also and is imho why he was also able to hit his shots as straight as he did, and as long as he was too.....he mentions it all on one of the videos I've seen on here....definitely going to be adding some weight to all my clubs this season!
When you add heavy grips it lowers the swing weight but adds overall weight.
Extended my irons 1". 7 iron measured at swing weight E3. Love it doesnt even feel heavy just nice. Irons in general are too light in my opinion
In the real world conditions, taking turf allows you to change the loft at impact.
It would have been interesting to know what the initial Swing weight was and then what the SW was with the weight added. It would be interesting to see you do a series of vids with a Master Club Fitter like Jason MacNiven at Golf Principles to explore what the effects are of changes in SW and Counter Balanced shafts.
That's another 12 swing weights to that club.
2 grams on head equals one swingweight
I'd like to know that also. What swingweight was before and after out of curiousity.curiosity..
@@tuplakid Ping blueprint irons have a standard swing weight of D2. Add that weight increased the iron to an E4 swing weight.
Hello James thanks for doing this and thought it would fly lower with more roll. Its good to know if one askes for something it listened to and acted on. its would be interesting to know if just 6 grams at the top of the club would make much difference like the good old days!!!!
Great vid James, let us know how the experiment goes!
I always wondered what would happen if you put fluid in the shaft. Like a few grams of mercury. It could shift to the handle in the backswing and shoot down to the head on the downswing. Obviously the shaft would have to be sealed and another dense type fluid would be needed as mercury is toxic stuff.
Great video james👍not sure i would stick them on my irons😬
What happens if you do 50:50, head and grip end!!? ☺ 👍
For every 10 grams on the head the weight moves 5 points heavier, for every 10 grams on the grip end the weight moves 2 grams lighter... you can do the math which should end with 3 points heavier on the head end... not sure why you would do 50/50 you either want a heavier club or a lighter club weight.
@@atb2003 Thank you 👍
Very interesting 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Nah! Still lighter than Vijays practice driver! :O) You have added an ounce ish. Vijays driver is 24 ounces.
Hi James. Curious to know what are the top 10 heaviest iron sets on the market today
Check out the Wilson D series. They are fat and chunky. Love them.
Most players could benefit from properly swing weighted clubs. Manuf build to A spec, but that doesn't always suite everyone. My driver is D8, because it works for me, irons are d4, but they were built to that for me because that's what works for my swing. Get fit, not just for shafts, but for swing weight.
for every two grams of weight you add to the club head it changes one swing weight. so adding 24 grams you just changed the swing weight 12 times. So if that iron started at D0, its now E2. I don't think any tour players are anywhere near that. Most are between d1-d5
nice video!! will you consider to make the same test on the 5 iron or fairway wood??
what are the best irons on the market that sells heavy heads ?
Club speed drop
Back in the Day I played Wilson Staff Blades Steel Reg R400 Shafts for years as a Good Ball Striker. As I was getting older I made the mistake 10 years ago of going to 'lighter' Game Improvement Irons with Graphite Shafts. Over that same period disgruntled I ahve purchased and been custom fitted for 10 New Sets of 'Lighter' GI Irons. I could never get the 'feel' in my swing or be confident inevitably my Iron play became absolute rubbish. Last week I bought a well looked after good condition Set of Wilson Staff FG 55's with R400 Steel Shafts. Most, if any, of the Clubs in Big Brand Set are never the Manufacturers advertised Swingweight (e.g. D2.) I now own a GolfSmiths Swingweight Balance and have with Lead Tape set the FG55's back at D2. So far I have only hit Practice Balls, but the difference in swing feel/coordination and return of good ball striking has been amazing - I am looking forward to my next Round as these far heavier Clubs are certainly performing far better on tighter dispersion with added distance then the GI irons. I watched your Video and was reassured it really works and I wasn't crazy (not everyone would agree with that last point). Many Thanks to you and I do hope your experiment gets a wide exposure in the Golfing Community. Cheers , Bob
The shaft will flex more with the weight added. They should peel of without problems (may take a while though). Depending on your strength and hand speed, the distance could be more or less. By the way, what is the swingweight with the added lead tape?
Was was the original swing weight and what was it with all the tape on?
Now experiment with placing 20-40 grams of weight in the end of the grip. Supposed to make the golfer feel the handle more and result in dramatic increase in club head speed. The increase in mass appears to increase the inertia of the handle end, making the swing more dynamic on the club head end.
Mass x velocity = James mind blown
I have been doing a lot of lead tape watching, and I’ve come to the conclusion that.
1) tinkering with weights is a legit thing
2) the golf industry either ignores this or plays it down so that,
3) golf pro shops and sales remain high when in reality you could have just fluffed around with a prior golf set
this what they did 5 decades ago so why is the clubs now so light an we stronger than ever? every swing trainer is heavy WHY? Now i know why cause you have to carry them you give up strokes to save on the weight you have to carry LMAO Pro just puts hot melt in there clubs to get them heavy
Ok before this even starts...how could you do that to such a sexy club?!!! I know they come off...but still
I used one on my Wilson staff fg17, and 3 strips on the wedges. Get about 10 yards extra per club. Good review.
I wonder how just one or two strips would work
Thanks, James. There is probably an optimum weight where you achieve the best balance of direction/distance. By the way, the more you play with heavier clubs, the stronger you become and that may lead to more lead tape.
You did provide any links like you said you were going to
Hi James this video brings back so many memories. When I was a young lad I would also put lead weights on my irons to feel the club through out the swing. Using this combined with lessons got my handicap down to 6. I might start using this method again.Great video James
how about do the same thing on your 6 iron, 5 iron,4 iron, 3 iron....put the same wt on all those irons and then make them all the same length as the 7 iron.... how would they hit then.....????
Is it legal? Well of course it's legal, I mean, would the R&A give it the nod?
My question exactly.
I was wondering if you finally had to get out the calculator to see what 3x8 was. :) I saw you with a perplexed look on your face and then came the edit.
I am always tinkering around with adding weight to my clubs. Changing balance points and so forth.
How do I look at old Instruction video?
And like I've always said....clubs have gotten too light
I remember u always say that Les, turns out u was right
Confirmed my view modern iron swing weights are to low. D2 used to be the standard now they seem about c5 much lighter. I'm 70 plus years and had my pro weight my clubs to d2, I now find them much easier to hit. Clubs are still light, graphite shafts, but i can now feel the heads.
There’s room for more 🤓
Great video, I actually purchased some lead tape last week to try this! As a very high handicapper struggling with tempo and speed (I snatch at my downswing) I’d love to see how other beginners and high handicappers get on with this. I think being able to feel the clubhead must improve the swing. My stock M4s with 85g shafts give me no clubhead feel.
How did it feel lol
I used to have heavier clubs but I started getting tired toward the end of rounds.
Hhahahahaa wuss!!!!
Dang I figured it would go straighter, but not necessarily farther. Great vid!
James, fantastic video! I tested going heavier with my irons, even though I’m a single digit handicap, and it’s taking my game to a whole new level. I went from a standard D2 swingweight to an E5. Yes, for real!
It’s a ton of tape but the difference it has made is so unbelievable…I couldn’t be happier. Everything is just dead straight. The dispersion is so incredibly tight, and I’m getting great height on the shots with a steeper descent angle. All of the iron shots are just straight as can be, and I really could not be happier. It’s hard to imagine swinging clubs at this weight for a whole round, but it’s been probably months now, and my game has just improved dramatically--simply from putting all this lead tape on the back of my clubs.
Back in the 50 years ago all irons were lead weighted and finished in the high D’s to low E’s swing weight... clubs swung themselves. In the OEM battle to outdo each other on the launch monitors, we’ve lost so much in the subtle art of clubs that swing themselves like finely built swords. Too bad. Thanks for doing this btw, your results were exactly what I expected. :D
Yeah i had this exact feeling when i bought an old vintage set of forged irons from the 70s i believe, they felt heavier, and more solid/dense.
So I took them for a round, first off they made me swing more naturally somehow, as if the clubs were guiding me, and surprisingly, I was hitting the 5 iron around 170 which is only around 10 yards shorter than my modern 5 iron.
This isn't shocking until you realise the vintage 5 iron is around 30-32 degrees of loft and my modern 5 iron is 21 degrees, dunno if I was striking it better, but the feel was so much nicer from these old irons as well as the sound.
Even though the soles were thinner and as well as the top line on these blades, the fact they were higher lofted, made them so much easier to hit, even the 3 iron which is around 24-25 degrees was a joy to hit, and that thing was tiny.
Also I was playing with a set of Ping eye woods 1-3-4-5, and the weird thing with all these old clubs was they had a weird draw bias about them, could have just been my swing on the day, but the off line shots seemed to always go left, even though my bad shot is normally a slice, the irons seemed to do this also but not as much as the woods.
I was thinking it's maybe because these old clubs had much larger hosels as well as smaller/lower toes in the irons which may have shifted the centre of gravity more towards the heel promoting a draw?
Hi 🎉could you help us test our golf lead tape and make an introduce video? Pay for it
I injected my P790’s with depleted uranium.
Bet you can really bomb them now!
Can you add the link where you got the tapes from in amazon ?
be interesting for you to go back to your regular iron (with no extra weight) to see if your club head speed had increased after using it
also be tempted to try this myself on 8 and 9 iron blade to get couple extra yards
Problem is when you are physically stronger lighter Club heads suck because you can't get feedback of where the club head is in space! I did a test on my 8 iron versus my friends Callaway 8 iron (heavy head). My carry distance best was 148. Lighter shaft.Lighter Club head. With Callaway hit 2 172 yd carry! Couldn't believe it. Since I felt the weight of the club head hinged the wrists more and had loads more time in transition! Basically crushed it.
Experienced this when trying a true wooden 3-wood, which was heavier than my metal wood. Did swing it better, because it is not so easy to rush the hands ...
Yep exactly! Ok. Good I thought I was crazy when I hit heavier clubs much farther. First time was with driver. I hit mine about 230 which is normal for me. Then I tried my friends heavier swing weight. Light shaft but super stiff. Hit it 45 yrs farther! Same swing but just got so much more lag. Arms could relax wrists could hinge more
That was great. Very entertaining as always!! Well done JR.
Did you check swing weight?? What is it E5??
Golf carts can hold a lot of weight.
this test would be great with some old school blade irons
That's a whole lot of weight for not a whole lot of gain
Great vid. James, i remember putting on that lead tape on my driver to try and get some more distance, but that was eons ago. All my irons have lighter (55g) shafts just so i can try and feel the club head a bit better. now, if i can only quit "casting" it i would be good. I wonder how light your club feels after you take the tape off, how much would that make a difference?.
Newton's 2nd law.
Force = mass x acceleration
Basically it's not how fast you swing it, it's the combination of how fast and how much it weighs. What hits harder? A mack truck full of bricks going 40MPH or a VW going 80MPH? Shot from a gun, a 20 caliber bullet going bullet 1800 ft per second or a 50 caliber bullet going 1000 ft per second?
Also in a golf swing it's not just the weight of the club to consider when calculating total mass, those who have figured out how to incorporate their body into the strike (not just their arms and club) add mass (torso weighs something) into the force of the strike, effectively striking the ball harder. Eventhough they aren't swinging faster.
I used the weights for balancing alloy wheels. They´re produced in different weights and stick like proverbial sh_t to a blanket :-)
great vedio. Could you help test our lead tape?
You proved the formula..................Mass X Velocity = Distance. So now what do you do? Talk about a custom set of clubs. Damn!!
Like my Putter James, I prefer the Weight and I prefer it on the Head of the club as , For me anyway , Stabilizes the club throughout the swing process.
I have been backweighting my irons for years!! I actually get my irons up and around the E-0 range. Yes, they feel heavy, but I believe they create a tempo that I can control easily, and I believe that is what it's about. Does it take away from your velocity? Probably, but my accuracy increases by quite a bit. If you try this, give it some time to get use to it. My driver use to be 48" long. I was able to create a tempo that seemed like all I have to do is get the clubhead moving. Don't believe that with a longer club you lose accuracy. Again, not everyone is alike, and I am not saying this will work for all.
Hi James , totally agree that weight helps, I've been playing with Calloway irons with x profile shafts, I got a call from a friend who works in a charity shop thought I'd like some clubs just handed in. Couldn't resist, Ben Sayers m2i full set for £25, larger cavity irons and "heavy "They hit the ball without any effort and fly straight and long . love them.
Great memories here. I grew up using lead tape on blades. It was part science part art. I still use what's considered "heavy irons" at D2. The biggest "ah-ha" moments of my life's golf journey was getting to swing one of Ben Hogan's irons at the Ben Hogan Museum in Dublin, Texas. It was HEAVY and the lie was really flat. I kept thinking how amazing it must have felt to pure a balata ball with one of his irons. To be that strong and that precise seems impossible to me still.
Moderation is not in your vocabulary is it? lol
How about taking this extreme to the opposite side of the swing weight scale, and removing a grip, wrapping a roll of lead tape around the butt of the shaft before reinstalling the grip. Basically counterbalancing the club. I’m sure the swing weight on that ping was most likely In the low E range. Let’s try something in the low C or high B range next. Rumor has it, Nicklaus used to do this with his clubs. Just a fun idea. Keep up the great out of the box vids mate. 👍
This is exactly what Mike Taylor (Artisan Golf - TW's personal wedge maker) said about modern clubs being too light. Its why Tiger's irons are D4 instead of D3.
I used the same clubs for over 30 years
So I was overdue an updated set
The new clubs I tried were all far to light
So bought the set I liked best
And added some lead tape
WOW!! they now feel like my old set
with added turbo chargers
Old club feel,with New club distance
Perfect 👍
Just saying....... Did this already three years ago, with same conclusions. The weight helps drop the club into the strike zone and the rotation just throws the head easily through the ball towards the target. Simple! The techos say it changes the shaft behaviour and the same result could be achieved with a lighter but stiffer shaft. But this does not help the tempo for starting the down swing especially for stronger guys. There is merit. The old guys knew it!