Do the high in the head lead tape video! This was a cool, unique test that I have not seen anywhere else. I have heard that you need to move about 10% of the weight of an iron head to make an impact on CG (which is a lot to move around on such a small head). But feel might trump an actual CG change. Thanks!
I was just contemplating this... I have a couple of clubs that are lighter in total weight and lighter in swing weight. I assume the actual head is lighter on these clubs (haven't pulled them apart yet) so it make sense to add the weight directly to the head. Having more weight behind the ball should feel better. But tip weights would look better. Thanks for confirming.
What would you recommend for someone with a heavier swing weight? I play D8 with 125 gram shafts. I don’t want to have to put a pound of lead tape on my irons. Would you recommend just splitting the difference?
Hi - Great question. Are your irons built long at all? Typically unless you have extremely heavy components you wouldn't get a SW to D8 without tip weights. If that's the case, I'd suggest removing those and adding the weight back with lead tape. If your irons are built over length and that's just the SW those components create, then you don't have too many options. However - in that case that means you do not have any tip weights in your irons and shouldn't create a hook bias.
Does a heavier iron shaft help to not overturn the ball? I play 105 but I’m wanting to try something heavier. I’m starting to turn the ball too much. I played a little fade when I was fit for these but I’m def curious to try the lead tape I just don’t want SW too heavy.
I had the same issue. I just went to a heavier shaft with a stiffer profile and set the irons flat and it helps to not turn it over so much. I went from kbs tour 90 s to PX 6.5.
Hi Ian, in theory yes. Typically heavier shafts keep the mass a bit more behind you, they also typically have a lower torque value, which resists the twisting of the shaft which can make you turn it over less. If you do want to try the lead tape - I'd suggest rebuilding your irons and removing the tip weights that are mostly likely in there before adding all the extra weight.
My question is,”so why the brands don’t do that in the beginning on built the clubs?….really????”…..and the 2.º question is”how you determine the swing weight for the player,when you do the fitting?….because I see in the fitting ,the fitter ,change ,change ,change shafts….not even once they talk about swing weight
Why do brands not do this? Firstly because it doesn't look "Retail" and secondly, almost every amateur golfer struggles with a push/slice miss, so having weight in the heel is a benefit. Your second question is a good one - I am constantly checking and monitoring swing weight in all my fittings. Either keeping a mental note, or I make literal notes about what seems to be working and what doesn't. Often times in our 2 hour fittings, once we dial in shaft/head/length/loft/lie we try lighter and heavier swing weights to see what a person performs best with.
@ For about 3 or 4 years now, my missed shots are on the left because I close the face of the club, and I used to use Flat irons in the past, but now with the problem I have of “dropping Shaft”, I'm in trouble in two problems, I would like to put the irons flatter so as not to miss so much on the left, but on the other hand I can't do it because of the dropping shaft
@@brunex17 I see - so yes you would benefit from the weight being applied to the back of the club with Lead Tape vs Tip Weights. It's an interesting point you bring up about shaft droop. Usually you get "Extreme" drooping of the shaft if the player is swinging "too fast" or if the shafts are too soft. In your case if you miss left and can't go any flatter because of the shaft drooping, which will make the toe too far down into the turf and create mis-hits, you could potentially look at playing a larger diameter grip? Something with less taper, to calm the face closure. You could also play a slightly stiffer shaft, which would mitigate the shaft droop you are talking about, which then would allow you to play them a bit flatter.
@ here in Portugal we have a very good thing about golf, the weather is excellent, and we have fantastic courses, so much so that Portugal has already won the award for the best golf destination in the world, but we don't have Fitting centers as they should be, the Fitting centers here are very basic and only see the distance numbers, they don't understand anything about Club path, face angle (i.e. Club data), so I dedicated myself to preparing my own material, but then I'm limited in testing several shafts etc etc, I'm 50 years old and I'm 1.69m tall, I make excellent iron distances, but I clearly miss a lot of greens to the left
My question is,”so why the brands don’t do that in the beginning on built the clubs?….really????”…..and the 2.º question is”how you determine the swing weight for the player,when you do the fitting?….because I see in the fitting ,the fitter ,change ,change ,change shafts….not even once they talk about swing weight
Do the high in the head lead tape video! This was a cool, unique test that I have not seen anywhere else. I have heard that you need to move about 10% of the weight of an iron head to make an impact on CG (which is a lot to move around on such a small head). But feel might trump an actual CG change. Thanks!
We are working on it! Thanks for the support!!!
@@SmashFactoryGolfChannel did you ever get around to this other video?
Love the video!! Great stuff
I was just contemplating this... I have a couple of clubs that are lighter in total weight and lighter in swing weight. I assume the actual head is lighter on these clubs (haven't pulled them apart yet) so it make sense to add the weight directly to the head. Having more weight behind the ball should feel better. But tip weights would look better. Thanks for confirming.
my club maker put 6gr tip in my irons can i counter with lead tape they hook
What would you recommend for someone with a heavier swing weight? I play D8 with 125 gram shafts. I don’t want to have to put a pound of lead tape on my irons. Would you recommend just splitting the difference?
Hi - Great question. Are your irons built long at all? Typically unless you have extremely heavy components you wouldn't get a SW to D8 without tip weights. If that's the case, I'd suggest removing those and adding the weight back with lead tape. If your irons are built over length and that's just the SW those components create, then you don't have too many options. However - in that case that means you do not have any tip weights in your irons and shouldn't create a hook bias.
Great video
Does a heavier iron shaft help to not overturn the ball? I play 105 but I’m wanting to try something heavier. I’m starting to turn the ball too much. I played a little fade when I was fit for these but I’m def curious to try the lead tape I just don’t want SW too heavy.
I had the same issue. I just went to a heavier shaft with a stiffer profile and set the irons flat and it helps to not turn it over so much. I went from kbs tour 90 s to PX 6.5.
Hi Ian, in theory yes. Typically heavier shafts keep the mass a bit more behind you, they also typically have a lower torque value, which resists the twisting of the shaft which can make you turn it over less. If you do want to try the lead tape - I'd suggest rebuilding your irons and removing the tip weights that are mostly likely in there before adding all the extra weight.
So can you have both Lead tape and tip weight ?
You can but your gear might start feeling like a sledgehammer!
How much weight did you add to each club head?
Just over 9 grams.
9 grams seems
like a ton, that's 4 to 4.5 swing weights.
My question is,”so why the brands don’t do that in the beginning on built the clubs?….really????”…..and the 2.º question is”how you determine the swing weight for the player,when you do the fitting?….because I see in the fitting ,the fitter ,change ,change ,change shafts….not even once they talk about swing weight
Why do brands not do this? Firstly because it doesn't look "Retail" and secondly, almost every amateur golfer struggles with a push/slice miss, so having weight in the heel is a benefit. Your second question is a good one - I am constantly checking and monitoring swing weight in all my fittings. Either keeping a mental note, or I make literal notes about what seems to be working and what doesn't. Often times in our 2 hour fittings, once we dial in shaft/head/length/loft/lie we try lighter and heavier swing weights to see what a person performs best with.
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For about 3 or 4 years now, my missed shots are on the left because I close the face of the club, and I used to use Flat irons in the past, but now with the problem I have of “dropping Shaft”, I'm in trouble in two problems, I would like to put the irons flatter so as not to miss so much on the left, but on the other hand I can't do it because of the dropping shaft
@@brunex17 I see - so yes you would benefit from the weight being applied to the back of the club with Lead Tape vs Tip Weights. It's an interesting point you bring up about shaft droop. Usually you get "Extreme" drooping of the shaft if the player is swinging "too fast" or if the shafts are too soft. In your case if you miss left and can't go any flatter because of the shaft drooping, which will make the toe too far down into the turf and create mis-hits, you could potentially look at playing a larger diameter grip? Something with less taper, to calm the face closure. You could also play a slightly stiffer shaft, which would mitigate the shaft droop you are talking about, which then would allow you to play them a bit flatter.
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here in Portugal we have a very good thing about golf, the weather is excellent, and we have fantastic courses, so much so that Portugal has already won the award for the best golf destination in the world, but we don't have Fitting centers as they should be, the Fitting centers here are very basic and only see the distance numbers, they don't understand anything about Club path, face angle (i.e. Club data), so I dedicated myself to preparing my own material, but then I'm limited in testing several shafts etc etc, I'm 50 years old and I'm 1.69m tall, I make excellent iron distances, but I clearly miss a lot of greens to the left
Nice apples to apples comparison
Great video.would you like to test our lead tape?pay for it
My question is,”so why the brands don’t do that in the beginning on built the clubs?….really????”…..and the 2.º question is”how you determine the swing weight for the player,when you do the fitting?….because I see in the fitting ,the fitter ,change ,change ,change shafts….not even once they talk about swing weight