Model Nika was the original fruit passed down in the giant clan which someone in the Navy stole and replaced with a similar looking fruit and then Shanks jacked the Navy once he found out they had it. Hence why Loki thinks he has the Sun God fruit but probably has a similar type fire related fruit
@@davidfity2802 it’d be fun if Loki has the Gomu Gomu No Mi, and there was a prophecy of awakening the fruit and gaining the Sun God Powers, but none of giants could do it, because they had the wrong fruit
Keeping in mind that Loki being a trickster tends to go hand in hand, I'm thinking Loki is tricking all of Elbaf into thinking he killed King Harald for the Devil Fruit. I'm thinking that either King Harald planned to side with the Navy and World Nobles in secret by providing CP0 the Gum Gum fruit and got killed by Loki or King Harald played the part of a villain in order to have these events happen but was killed by CP0 and Loki took the blame. My reasoning for this is that if King Harald is taking a role like Odin then having him side with the Navy and World Nobles as a crazed war monger makes sense, but on the other hand if he can see into the future like Odin and took actions to make sure the Gum Gum fruit gets to where it needs to aka Luffy then that would also fit. As stated earlier Loki would trick all of Elbaf into thinking he killed his father for the Devil Fruit in order to protect his father's image which would fit either scenario I pitched. (And yeah this would also imply Hajrudin takes the role of Thor, a clueless good hearted warrior that tries to live up to his father's image and falls time and again to his brother's tricks but ultimately rules over his people.)
Adding on that: what if the mastermind of all of this was Shanks who: 1. Convince Harald that Loki was a threat, hence to give Nika fruit to World Government (planning already to steal it) 2. Somehow killed Harald and Loki is lying and taking credit from it , and actually ate another Devil Fruit 3. Shanks wears the white knight's cape and help giants to capture & lock Loki (hence takes the glory and becomes Yonko) 4. Shanks steals the Nika fruit and.....it gets eaten by mistake from Luffy. 5. Now, at nowadays, Shanks is plotting to get Luffy killed to get back the Nila fruit Twisted as hell...
BB strikes when someone is weak. Loki is the perfect person to weaken shanks for an assassination attempt. Or after a Davy back fight with luffy at another point lol A Davy back triple yolk assassination would take the world by storm tho ngl
Hear me out: LOKI thinks he’s the sun god and he killed his father for his devil fruit what if shanks got to it first and Loki was mistaken and ate the wrong devil fruit unknowingly that’s why he reacted with curiosity when luffy used his powers
@christopherbrown-vu1ey even further, shanks only went to elbaph to kill loki and take his devil fruit but realized that loki didn't have the right devil fruit so that's why he wasn't killed, only chained up. Shanks became Yonko only because his mission was to get the Nika fruit.
Crazy idea, giants normally would fight to the death. So what if shank is the reason that loki was imprisoned and not dead. So not finishing a fight is way he calls shanks a coward
@@slyaton my theory is that he calls shanks a coward because shanks was the actual one to kill the king of elbaf and pinned it on Loki. I think that is why Loki hates him so much.
@migueltorres4961 good idea but a frame job seem out of character and claiming the kill could add to the power of his name and further protect the weak pirates under him. " mess with shanks and your dead, not even a giant king could escape his wrath"
Perhaps CP0 actually assassinated Harald. Prince Loki, upon seeing this, probably ate a fruit he thought was the reincarnation of the Nika fruit to prevent the WG from acquiring it. As a result, he gets incriminated in Harald's murder. Shanks happens to be there and assists in defeating Loki while CP0 slips away. Shanks, somehow notices that Loki doesn't have the Nika fruit, and sets out to find the CP0 ship where the real fruit is located to retrieve it. Perhaps Loki might have an illusion or reality warping fruit. One that allows him to change the form of objects, people etc.
What if loki ate real rubber fruit but as it was treasured in elbaf it never got into encyclopedia Loki might have ate actual rubber and luffy nika fruit
I actually had thought the same thing! Even thought further - what if rubber fruit and Nika fruit look identical as well, both being kept within Elbaph royalty, reason why it wasn't in any Devil Fruit Encyclopedia's / Bingo Books and the whole reason why Shanks has decided to go after One Piece now, is because Luffys' wanted poster shows his awakened Nika form, meaning that the bet he described placing on the new generation to Whitebeard, wasn't actually him thinking that Luffy was the kid who will become Pirate King, but actually him placing the bet on whether the fruit was either Gomu Gomu no Mi, or Hito Hito no Mi: Model Nika. That would kind of explain why Loki thinks he is the Sun-God, because he has an idea of what the fruits' powers are, but hasn't been able to awaken them. Also think that Sun-God is a title given to the strongest Elbaph warrior or leader. Same way how Egyptian Pharaohs considered themselves Gods in ancient history.
For some crazy head cannon look and the eye of ra's powers. Also known as a Sun God, whos eye powers include protection, destruction, balance, heat and light, AND DAWN. Dawn meaning the red light that appears before the dawn and the dawn star that signals the coming of the SUN!
Nah that's all head cannon. I think shanks is not so great and he's the one that had Loki locked up. Or more like Loki got locked up because shanks is a good dude. # either way I hate shanks
What if Loki's father was killed by Shanks, and before he was dead he gave the power to Loki. What if Sun God was not luffy as we thought, and what if luffy had the moon God fruit 😮.
Surprised you didn’t try to tie in the Giant straw hat IMU has in the vault , that belong to the original Joyboy ( a version of him) that could of been a gaint tied to elbaph & why the sun god fruit could of potentially came from him and the king ask shanks to retrieve it for him. That would explain why loki thinks he ate the nika fruit because Joyboy was a giant , whos stories ,fruit , and title was pass down through the giants royal family. Just a random thought & Always thank you for the Videos 🙌🏾💯
SUN (Logia) fruit Actual Sun Heat , represents Sun as a Planet vs Nika ( Mythical Zoan) Fruit the sun god , represents more then the fire aspect , Freedom , Joy etc in my opinion Oda makes Loki the Surtr who Burns Elbaph down or tries to but Luffy the Sun God Tames him Luffy might lose a EYE
I legit think shanks n loki were good friends then ,loki wanted to take out the world government ,but shanks n the giants did not want to,they fought loki got locked up,n that's why loki called shanks a coward
I surprised that nothing said about a giant hammer behind Loki. Maybe it is not a Loki, but Thor; real Loki impersonates himself as Thor, ruling Elbaph (and his design is same as was in Lola's flashback ;) ). About animals: wolf and snake probably Fenrir and Jormungandr, therefore the Loki's devil fruit is not Inu Inu no mi: model Fenrir. I think, that Luffy will definetely regret about his decision to save/free someone and this someone would be Coby, who possibly can take down Shanks in future.
You need characters like Loki for the future fighting Because we already se how powerful luffy nika version and 5 elders of marines also imu So it's essential to be sure new character should be stronger than previous characters
I’ve been on the Fenrir idea myself. What if Loki has the mythical Fenrir fruit. The other thing that I have been thinking is how shanks will be killed. I still think it is Blackbeard. In Norse mythology if I remember correctly, Tyr is mortally wounded by Garm (in this case Blackbeard), the guard dog of the underworld, during Ragnarok. This would add more credence to Blackbeard having the Cerberus fruit as well. Garm bites off his Shanks other arm and he bleeds out, but not before Tyr mortally wounding Garm. I dunno, just ideas that popped in my head. Edit: I forgot to mention Fenrir is supposed to swallow the sun at Ragnarok
So, real quick, the norse version of hell, "hellheim", is a cold dark place wherein souls are trapped for eternity often portrayed as an icy land. it is also sometimes represented as the lowest realm on the world tree Yggdrasil. We see that the snowy part of Elbaf is the first place they arrive and also the place where Loki is imprisoned, so it would make sense to me if the journey through Elbaf sends the crew through each of the realms (or even one realm each as there are 9 and then Luffy does his own thing as usual). Personally I would like this as it could give each character their own special character arc and training similar to during the timeskip except this time we would see it
In mythology, Loki could transform himself into any animal he wanted. My guess is Loki has a busted mythical zoan shape shifting (shape-shape nomi) that allows to transform not just into any animal, but also any zoan form. And since sun god is associated with freedom and being or doing anything he can imagine, hence Loki thinks he's the actual sun god.
I think in the past that Loki was a victim of the culling tournament on God Valley and has a special bounty on him because he evaded capture by the God Knights this gave Prince Loki his nihilistic outlook on life.
It would probably be Odin instead of loki, as he was still alive. I think Shanks helped Loki to kill Odin and then betrayed him and got the credits for everything. Especially because Elbaf is Shanks territory and very closed to the Lodestar island
I’ve got 2 theories that this video helped me think about more. One theory is that shanks could have stopped Loki and chained him up and his father was killed. I believe The King was a Yonko that was getting old and helped shanks become the next Yonko and tell him to find the hidden Devil Fruit that was replaced. Another theory I had was that JoyBoy was a Giant from ancient Elbaf. This is because Imu had a giant straw hat that JoyBoy could have worn and could symbolize the next Warrior Of Liberation. JoyBoy was an Elbaf giant and his fruit was supposed to be passed down every generation but wasn’t and instead was locked away and then given to the government to hide and then shanks found it. It’s why shanks had the hat. He was said to be the next JoyBoy but once Luffy ate the fruit he was given the hat to symbolize the next Warrior of Liberation. These Theories could be debunked but I wanted to share my thoughts on what may happen in the future. And see how yall think of this
I think that loki fruit has a fire type devil fruit because loki in the comics actually has a another name of his multiple names which god of fire or firebringer and it will also make sense why harudjin would compete in the tournament in dressora to get Ace's flame fruit maybe as a way to compete against loki with a fire type fruit basically fighting fire with fire
I saw a Mr Morj video talking about Loki potentially having an “Elbaph” fruit cause in little garden Dorry and Broggy mentioned that being a god in there folklore, although I don’t know how I guess legit that is (maybe someone remind Oda of it (kidding party not))
Prediction: Eustace Kidd will be the one to free Loki in order to seek revenge against the Red-Hair pirates and the giants of Elbaph. And that will kickstart the final war in full force. I'm also predicting that Saul was the Man Marked By Flames and had since handed the last Road Poneglyph to Shanks (hence the reason Shanks was even on Elbaph in the first place). And lastly, I predict that Loki was the mysterious figure who is said to be one of the twelve key figures in the race for the One Piece.
i think hajrudin is inspired from a real life person heyreddin barbarosaa (redbeard) who first was a prominent pirate in 1600 he did piracy during that time and had a strong pirate fleet after recognising his power king made him a navy fleet commander and then admiral he too had a brother who was killed, so by analogy ig hajrudin would be caught red handed (as redbeard ofc) and then we will get to know he did betryal and was with navy whole time and he killed his father himself not loki but his father herald ( herald = something big i comming ) gave the df to loki knowing hajrudins intention and then eventually killed and the blame was transfered to loki maybe shanks helped hajrudin here to get his hand on elbaf as a yonko territory and here it is now, the present scenario
And those mentions of Shanks meeting with the gorosei and possibly being evil suddenly makes me wonder if Shanks is actually Imu, like that would just be fucked up. But of course it was a while since i saw that scene so i may be missing a few details that disprove it.
Buddy. That wasn’t shanks meeting with the Gorosei. They never once addressed him as shanks-they also intentionally *didn’t* show his left eye with the scar … Because it’s literally not shanks.
no way loki is yonko level. the way he reacted to luffy toying with the monsters looks to me like he has never seen anyone do that so easily including him. so far loki gives off insane buggy vibes
The patricide. I'm seeing Skyrim flashbacks. It was an honorable duel and they didn't want Ulfric Stormcloak to be the High King. YOU WONT LEAVE ELBAF ALIVE!
Black beard isn't killing shanks. He's getting killed by Garland when he tried to make a deal with the elders. Garland is going to use him and his crew as a show of power and take him out.
I'm seeing some Blackbeard and Doflamingo paralels here... Also, Oda likes to use eyes and glasses to represent worldview of people, in Loki's case they are hidden, meaning yeah, we arent supposed to be sure what's his deal yet. And innacurate judging by following hearsay is like half the story, the strawhats, Robin, Buggy, Crocodile, Doflamingo, the Navy... they all have apulic face different from what they are/were really about. Myth Loki wasnt evil per-se, he was a trickster that got into trouble but also helped the aesir on occasion... until the Baldr situation. So he might be about as neutral as Shanks is, with just a different presentation.
Less then a min in and it's Loki killing Shanks prediction. Very bold of you and I'm commenting so I can come back to this. You sir are either a genuine genius or delusional, and I'm excited to find which one 😂🙏
22:45 I mean if you think of it, ALL of Hito Hito nomi are capable of changing size of their body ( mainly giantification since all of them so far are human sized), who knows if what Loki ate is also a Hito Hito nomi.
Hmm is there a possibility of Shanks lied to cover Luffy that has the Son God fruit and pretended to gave it to King of Giants? And instead is a similar fruit with sun power or Katakuri like powers?
Thats way could earn their trust if it wasnt in friendly terms by them since they worship sungod and protect them at the same time, so Loki got jealous and did what he did..
Have the name of a Mythological God, a mythical zoan, hyped for a long time, important reputation in a warrior country, he'll 100% be cool *Remember Orochi* He'll 99% be cool
every one searches for the connection "6 years ago" but it is simply: Loki was the yonko at that time. Maybe not seen by himself or the other giants, but from the World Goverment perspective he was. Shanks defeated him and became the Yonko.
I would hate to see it, but I’d also LOVE the story if it does go into shanks becoming or revealing his true intentions and not being a purely good or good at all character. A good ol betrayal is top tier.
What if Loki knows he's not the Sun God and has been saying he is in an attempt to throw off anyone who is looking for the fruit. The World government had the fruit so what if they killed his father took the fruit and Loki asked Shanks to retrieve it. Loki is told by Shanks a kid ate it so Loki decides he'll protect the new Sun god by telling everyone he has the fruits power.
if the nika fruit was from elbaf and the previous user of the fruit was joyboy then mabye joyboy wasa giant and also indicating that there was the big strawhat with imu this backs it up even more
Starting to see parallels between Shanks and Tyr/Odin as if he was meant to be a mish mash of the two. Which would make sense seeing as Loki seems to almost be a combination of Loki/Fenrir, destined to kill Shanks and forever imprisoned for an unforgivable crime (like the murder of Baldr).
remember the giant who was able to shape shift, the daughter to the chef who was captured by the marines, just before punk hazard, fluffy stayed they should fight like that again, we may see her again on elbaf.
Not saying he will, but another way to have Loki join the crew aside a size changing fruit could be this...they are literally on the island of the Adam Tree, which Sunny is made of. Franky (and Lilith?) could spend a couple weeks after the plot of Elbaph is solved to upgrade the Sunny to be FRIGGIN MASSIVE or build a companion ship just for Loki, or Lilith creates a shrink gun and shrinks him, or he just joins the fleet, the New Giant pirates arrive, and he sets off with them. Those all seem like viable-ish options assuming Loki doesn't have some sort of body altering fruit. Edit: PFFTAHAHAHA I just realized, if he joins the crew and this arc + Egghead combined dont cause a bounty bonus for the crew, Loki would be #2, pushing down Zoro and Sanji (I mean Sanji's already not top 3 anymore, but Jinbei doesnt really care, but those two do). But that also means that if he does join and we DO get bounty boosts (Probably the penultimate one before the end of the story. Or possibly the last, who knows), Zoro prolly will keep his #2 spot so his bounty will be OVER 2.6 billion! And Luffy's will probably join the previous generation Yonko in the 4 billions. Maybe Usopp will cross the 1 billion marker (He tend to have one of Luffy's previous bounties, so logically his next bounty will be 1.5 billion right?). Robins already so close, she'll obv cross 1 billion as well. Nami will be in the 400+ range and be miserable. I wonder if Cross Guild has been doin shit off screen and Buggy's goes up as well, also getting into the 4 billions, surpassing Mihawk even since, afterall, Mihawk is just his "subordinate" :p NGL, whether Loki joins the main crew or not (wtf will his role even be?), I'm pretty excited for the potential of the next bounties. But I guess thats pretty normal for this fandom. The quiet bits in-between arcs where we learn "NUMBERS WENT UP LADS!" is basically our favorite part as a community lmao. Individually we like other parts more. But EVERYONE likes new bounty reveals.
wild guess, there could be 2 or even more nika fruits: it could be like in the story of dragonball where there are different dragoballs like we recently learned in Daima that there are dragon balls in the demon world. So maybe there are likewise fruit on the moon or other planets. . I know it would blow the whole story about devil fruits but.... who knows what Oda is cooking :D
1. The fruit that was supposed to get passed down to Loki was indeed Model Nika 2. Navy was sent to retrieve it, by the orders of the Gorosei 3. Shanks was also tasked by the Gorosei behind the curtains to snatch it since the Navy alone cannot be completely trusted with such an important objective. ( I suspect that Shanks also may have a hand on the killing of the King too) 4. While transporting the DF the unexpected happens a kid eats it. 5. Shanks decides to shift the plans and instead of killing the kid and try to find the DF all over again grooms luffy until the time is right to kill him, which explains the moves he makes after model Nika is awakened. ( Like Harry Potter was planned to be sacrificed by Dumbledore) 6. Here is my theory, I believe Shanks does all of this to either gain some sort of a status back in the Mariejois to be the person that retrieves or eliminates the Joyboy threat (which would explain him still being in contact with the gorosei despite being raised as an orphan who was left to die) if indeed the plan is to paint Shanks as a Antagonist. If not to get revenge for leaving him to die
My Wild Guesses: 1. Shanks is a Clone of Imu. 2. It's Imu who went to the Gorosei and not Shanks 3. Loki has a Trickster Fruit :) Meaning he can make illusions that he is strong. And It's Ussop who will defeat him 4. An Odin or Thor Character will be the Enemy in the Elbaf Arc. He was the one who killed Loki's Father
I just realized a way that there can be two Sun-God fruits associated with the same Sun-God: One of them (the one Luffy has) is a Mythical Zoan based *on* Sun-Go Nika, but since Sun-God Nika was a specific person, that means... ...there could also be a devil-fruit that was once eaten *by* Sun-God Nika, and passed onwards when he died. This could be any type of devil-fruit, but I have a suspicion it's a Logia.
The Captain of the New Giant Pirates did a brief shantie near the end of the chapter. I'm sucker for shanties. 😅 And Robin... 😍 wooooooo, thank you Oda. 👍🏻🇵🇷
I would love this conversation to be a foreshadowing of loki actually destroying the blackbeard pirates in return for luffy freeing him way later once luffy and him became friends.. sadly it would rob us of some highly anticipated straw hat vs blackbeard matchups
I think because navigator Road of the New Giant Warrior Pirates cosplayed as Loki with the deer mask I think Loki has the Leshy devil fruit an Eastern European demigod like creature who is the god of the forest which has a roaring voice this giant can merge with the forest and is part plant and can change size and is often adorned with a deer like skull and can control the animals of the forest I believe the sun powers stems from Loki's use of photosynthesis.
Video Idea: What would the Strawhats be without the timeskip? Yes they are weaker but everything they has done in the OG storyline would be 2 years ahead too so, Punk Hazard 2 years ago, is Law with Ceaser Clown? No Fugitora in Dressrosa? No Kimenkon and Momuske?? It’s a very interesting concept
I haven't seen anyone make this connection yet but theres an interesting situation here. As we know devil fruits, specially mythical zoans, have a will of their own and they sort of "choose" their holder based on their personality. Interestingly, Loki is showing a LOT of Luffy's traits. He misspelled Luffy's name (Luffy does this a lot), he has an affinity with animals and wants to be a sun god, just like Luffy wants to be the king of the pirates. In fact had Luffy be born in Elbaf, he might have wanted the same dream too. Back in Egghead, Dorry and Brogy referred to Luffy as the Sun God. How would they know this unless they already knew what the sun god is supposed to look like? I do think it is possible that Loki has a similar fruit to Luffy and that's how Dory and Brogy recognized his form.
I have theory, imu spelled backwards is umi meaning sea or ocean, shank's sword handle is a half moon shape and luffy is the sun god. What if shanks has inherited the will of joyboys brother that was responsible for haki usuage and the mechanical aspects of the ancient world. With joyboys robot companion having to betray joyboy as he was commanded to by his brother. It would explain how imu has a giant straw hat in their domain, shanks walking in on the gorisei and potentially the origins of haki.
I think there was a time when roger said to shank when Roger said to Shank that one day a child of Prophecy would come and take one piece, and shank knew it is Luffy. So i think shank is trying to prove that he can find the one piece
Given both Road and Loki call themselves the Sun God, it's possible this is simply a title among the giants. It's the title of the ruler of Elbaf, beyond just "King". Road introduced himself as the "Sun God", because he was the ruler of his own realm, meaning the Lego diorama he built as a prison. Loki considers himself the rightful ruler of Elbaf, hence why he calls himself the Sun God. Whether this is because of the Nika fruit or something else, is yet to be seen. Still, it's clear the giants believe in MANY gods. Dorry and Broggy first mentioned the "War God Elbaf" which the country was named after wayback in Little Garden, and we now know they also worship a "Sun God". The giants may just have an entire pantheon of "forbidden gods" the World Government doesn't want the world to know about. This pantheon might even predate the Blank/Void Century, given how old the giants are as civilization.
"Rody." Loki gave Luffy a taste of his own medicine. 😂
That's karma for luffy
The fact Luffy actually get triggered by that is gold
true LOL
That was so funny
Wasn't it loppy
Model Nika was the original fruit passed down in the giant clan which someone in the Navy stole and replaced with a similar looking fruit and then Shanks jacked the Navy once he found out they had it. Hence why Loki thinks he has the Sun God fruit but probably has a similar type fire related fruit
Someone stealing a legendary fruit from the giants doesnt sound likely. Everything else makes sense tho
@@davidfity2802 it’d be fun if Loki has the Gomu Gomu No Mi, and there was a prophecy of awakening the fruit and gaining the Sun God Powers, but none of giants could do it, because they had the wrong fruit
Plasma-Plasma fruit.
@@jestawell no cause we know from vegapunk that the gomu gomu no mi doesnt actually exist
sounds pretty good. i think we need a bit more confirmation on the time gap but other than that that might be what actually happened
Keeping in mind that Loki being a trickster tends to go hand in hand, I'm thinking Loki is tricking all of Elbaf into thinking he killed King Harald for the Devil Fruit. I'm thinking that either King Harald planned to side with the Navy and World Nobles in secret by providing CP0 the Gum Gum fruit and got killed by Loki or King Harald played the part of a villain in order to have these events happen but was killed by CP0 and Loki took the blame. My reasoning for this is that if King Harald is taking a role like Odin then having him side with the Navy and World Nobles as a crazed war monger makes sense, but on the other hand if he can see into the future like Odin and took actions to make sure the Gum Gum fruit gets to where it needs to aka Luffy then that would also fit. As stated earlier Loki would trick all of Elbaf into thinking he killed his father for the Devil Fruit in order to protect his father's image which would fit either scenario I pitched.
(And yeah this would also imply Hajrudin takes the role of Thor, a clueless good hearted warrior that tries to live up to his father's image and falls time and again to his brother's tricks but ultimately rules over his people.)
Umm….no
I like this theory
@@giuseppeiuffrida2900 I still think it'd be more crazier if Loki ACTUALLY killed his own father just for a devil fruit.
@@Oohsy07Uuhammm….. Blackbeard
Adding on that: what if the mastermind of all of this was Shanks who:
1. Convince Harald that Loki was a threat, hence to give Nika fruit to World Government (planning already to steal it)
2. Somehow killed Harald and Loki is lying and taking credit from it , and actually ate another Devil Fruit
3. Shanks wears the white knight's cape and help giants to capture & lock Loki (hence takes the glory and becomes Yonko)
4. Shanks steals the Nika fruit and.....it gets eaten by mistake from Luffy.
5. Now, at nowadays, Shanks is plotting to get Luffy killed to get back the Nila fruit
Twisted as hell...
everybody talking about loki and shanks, meanwhile me:
THANK GOD NICO ROBIN LOOKS LIKE NICO ROBIN AGAIN AFTER ALL THOSE YEARS.
I totally agree XD
@@phil2921 nah she looked better with her other hair
@@triazey6768 yeah, she looked fine in other hair.
Loki is literally a trickster. It's like his whole schtick. So we need to distrust every single word that comes out of his mouth.
BB strikes when someone is weak. Loki is the perfect person to weaken shanks for an assassination attempt.
Or after a Davy back fight with luffy at another point lol
A Davy back triple yolk assassination would take the world by storm tho ngl
Hear me out: LOKI thinks he’s the sun god and he killed his father for his devil fruit what if shanks got to it first and Loki was mistaken and ate the wrong devil fruit unknowingly that’s why he reacted with curiosity when luffy used his powers
@christopherbrown-vu1ey even further, shanks only went to elbaph to kill loki and take his devil fruit but realized that loki didn't have the right devil fruit so that's why he wasn't killed, only chained up. Shanks became Yonko only because his mission was to get the Nika fruit.
That's also why his bounty was so high because there were rumors that he was the one who was the sun god.
Or he was the unknown Yonko shanks beat to take his position
Hear me out guys Loki is not stronger than luffy as you can see in the manga he feared luffy gear 4th punch ✊
But Loki was locked up 6 years ago and Luffy ate his fruit like 10 years ago
Crazy idea, giants normally would fight to the death. So what if shank is the reason that loki was imprisoned and not dead. So not finishing a fight is way he calls shanks a coward
@@slyaton my theory is that he calls shanks a coward because shanks was the actual one to kill the king of elbaf and pinned it on Loki. I think that is why Loki hates him so much.
@migueltorres4961 good idea but a frame job seem out of character and claiming the kill could add to the power of his name and further protect the weak pirates under him. " mess with shanks and your dead, not even a giant king could escape his wrath"
Perhaps CP0 actually assassinated Harald. Prince Loki, upon seeing this, probably ate a fruit he thought was the reincarnation of the Nika fruit to prevent the WG from acquiring it. As a result, he gets incriminated in Harald's murder. Shanks happens to be there and assists in defeating Loki while CP0 slips away. Shanks, somehow notices that Loki doesn't have the Nika fruit, and sets out to find the CP0 ship where the real fruit is located to retrieve it.
Perhaps Loki might have an illusion or reality warping fruit. One that allows him to change the form of objects, people etc.
Plasma-Plasma fruit.
@@OddOtter707 would be interesting, could also tie in Enel to the story with that since he also uses a type of plasma
Cook
This can be correct wow
the loki styled horns cap is cool af ngl
I love how loki looks like monsterpoint chopper
What if loki ate real rubber fruit but as it was treasured in elbaf it never got into encyclopedia
Loki might have ate actual rubber and luffy nika fruit
I actually had thought the same thing! Even thought further - what if rubber fruit and Nika fruit look identical as well, both being kept within Elbaph royalty, reason why it wasn't in any Devil Fruit Encyclopedia's / Bingo Books and the whole reason why Shanks has decided to go after One Piece now, is because Luffys' wanted poster shows his awakened Nika form, meaning that the bet he described placing on the new generation to Whitebeard, wasn't actually him thinking that Luffy was the kid who will become Pirate King, but actually him placing the bet on whether the fruit was either Gomu Gomu no Mi, or Hito Hito no Mi: Model Nika.
That would kind of explain why Loki thinks he is the Sun-God, because he has an idea of what the fruits' powers are, but hasn't been able to awaken them.
Also think that Sun-God is a title given to the strongest Elbaph warrior or leader. Same way how Egyptian Pharaohs considered themselves Gods in ancient history.
Loki teaches luffy sixth gear
Ts is dumb asf, it would be kattakuri giant edition
@@paragoncomplexllc5471 yea him eating the rubber fruit wouldn’t make sense when it never exists in the first place
@@Aslavetofreedom how do u know it doesn’t exist?
For some crazy head cannon look and the eye of ra's powers. Also known as a Sun God, whos eye powers include protection, destruction, balance, heat and light, AND DAWN. Dawn meaning the red light that appears before the dawn and the dawn star that signals the coming of the SUN!
shanks killed loki's father and blamde it on loki and chained him up then took the fruit who luffy later ate?
@@plainly_kevin Nice theory!
Real
That theory is solid
Shanks took the fruit from the navy so, someone from the navy killed him.
Nah that's all head cannon. I think shanks is not so great and he's the one that had Loki locked up. Or more like Loki got locked up because shanks is a good dude. # either way I hate shanks
22:30 if loki does join sanji would have the 5th highest bounty in the crew lol. zoro would love it.🤣🤣🤣
What if Loki's father was killed by Shanks, and before he was dead he gave the power to Loki.
What if Sun God was not luffy as we thought, and what if luffy had the moon God fruit 😮.
Calling it now - someone else frees Loki and asks him to go after Luffy as their wish for releasing him
13:02 calling it out because you got the idea from ohara right?
That person is Kid
Lol Road is literally following the strawhats up towards where the key is. He's gonna get pissed and let him free
Surprised you didn’t try to tie in the Giant straw hat IMU has in the vault , that belong to the original Joyboy ( a version of him) that could of been a gaint tied to elbaph & why the sun god fruit could of potentially came from him and the king ask shanks to retrieve it for him. That would explain why loki thinks he ate the nika fruit because Joyboy was a giant , whos stories ,fruit , and title was pass down through the giants royal family. Just a random thought & Always thank you for the Videos 🙌🏾💯
@@MrSilverkid17 Joy boy isn’t a giant we see it in the flashback. Ever since then I’ve been thinking about that hat
Luffy just relaxing on Loki chest was just so cool idk why but I’m liking both of them together
SUN (Logia) fruit Actual Sun Heat , represents Sun as a Planet vs Nika ( Mythical Zoan) Fruit the sun god , represents more then the fire aspect , Freedom , Joy etc in my opinion Oda makes Loki the Surtr who Burns Elbaph down or tries to but Luffy the Sun God Tames him Luffy might lose a EYE
I legit think shanks n loki were good friends then ,loki wanted to take out the world government ,but shanks n the giants did not want to,they fought loki got locked up,n that's why loki called shanks a coward
Shanks is a pirate, he has never said he was good or bad.
Woah loki and shanks are parallel identity
Cool
I surprised that nothing said about a giant hammer behind Loki. Maybe it is not a Loki, but Thor; real Loki impersonates himself as Thor, ruling Elbaph (and his design is same as was in Lola's flashback ;) ).
About animals: wolf and snake probably Fenrir and Jormungandr, therefore the Loki's devil fruit is
not Inu Inu no mi: model Fenrir. I think, that Luffy will definetely regret about his decision to save/free someone and this someone would be Coby, who possibly can take down Shanks in future.
You need characters like Loki for the future fighting
Because we already se how powerful luffy nika version and 5 elders of marines also imu
So it's essential to be sure new character should be stronger than previous characters
So many crew members in Strawhats were considered bad guys.. Nami, Robin, Franky, Lilith.. could Loki be the same?
Lilith? Lilith is officially part of the crew? Wtf I didn't know that 😐 how did I miss that
For now she's moving around with the strawhats
How do the strawhats sail with a giant on the sunny?
I’ve been on the Fenrir idea myself. What if Loki has the mythical Fenrir fruit. The other thing that I have been thinking is how shanks will be killed. I still think it is Blackbeard. In Norse mythology if I remember correctly, Tyr is mortally wounded by Garm (in this case Blackbeard), the guard dog of the underworld, during Ragnarok. This would add more credence to Blackbeard having the Cerberus fruit as well. Garm bites off his Shanks other arm and he bleeds out, but not before Tyr mortally wounding Garm. I dunno, just ideas that popped in my head.
Edit: I forgot to mention Fenrir is supposed to swallow the sun at Ragnarok
Yo keep up the good work Ohara
The actual first
So, real quick, the norse version of hell, "hellheim", is a cold dark place wherein souls are trapped for eternity often portrayed as an icy land. it is also sometimes represented as the lowest realm on the world tree Yggdrasil. We see that the snowy part of Elbaf is the first place they arrive and also the place where Loki is imprisoned, so it would make sense to me if the journey through Elbaf sends the crew through each of the realms (or even one realm each as there are 9 and then Luffy does his own thing as usual). Personally I would like this as it could give each character their own special character arc and training similar to during the timeskip except this time we would see it
I've been an avid watcher of your videos, and i must say i do thoroughly enjoy listening to these theories and ideas. Keep it up bro! ❤
In mythology, Loki could transform himself into any animal he wanted.
My guess is Loki has a busted mythical zoan shape shifting (shape-shape nomi) that allows to transform not just into any animal, but also any zoan form.
And since sun god is associated with freedom and being or doing anything he can imagine, hence Loki thinks he's the actual sun god.
Dame, we got two semi confirmed realms, helheim and niflheim, and as a norse mythology fan, im so excited to point out more 😊
I think in the past that Loki was a victim of the culling tournament on God Valley and has a special bounty on him because he evaded capture by the God Knights this gave Prince Loki his nihilistic outlook on life.
REAL ONES KNOW LOKI HAS MANGEKYOU SHARINGAN
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Imagine if 7 yrs ago the four emperors of the sea included
White Beard, Kaido, Big Mom, Loki
It would probably be Odin instead of loki, as he was still alive. I think Shanks helped Loki to kill Odin and then betrayed him and got the credits for everything. Especially because Elbaf is Shanks territory and very closed to the Lodestar island
What if kidd is the one to set Loki free? I'm sure they share a common hatred against shanks and keys can usually be attracted to magnets.
I’ve got 2 theories that this video helped me think about more. One theory is that shanks could have stopped Loki and chained him up and his father was killed. I believe The King was a Yonko that was getting old and helped shanks become the next Yonko and tell him to find the hidden Devil Fruit that was replaced. Another theory I had was that JoyBoy was a Giant from ancient Elbaf. This is because Imu had a giant straw hat that JoyBoy could have worn and could symbolize the next Warrior Of Liberation. JoyBoy was an Elbaf giant and his fruit was supposed to be passed down every generation but wasn’t and instead was locked away and then given to the government to hide and then shanks found it. It’s why shanks had the hat. He was said to be the next JoyBoy but once Luffy ate the fruit he was given the hat to symbolize the next Warrior of Liberation.
These Theories could be debunked but I wanted to share my thoughts on what may happen in the future. And see how yall think of this
We need a flashback of how Loki got locked up. Hopefully it's planned in a chapter or two down the road. I want to see how Shanks took this guy down.
I think that loki fruit has a fire type devil fruit because loki in the comics actually has a another name of his multiple names which god of fire or firebringer and it will also make sense why harudjin would compete in the tournament in dressora to get Ace's flame fruit maybe as a way to compete against loki with a fire type fruit basically fighting fire with fire
I saw a Mr Morj video talking about Loki potentially having an “Elbaph” fruit cause in little garden Dorry and Broggy mentioned that being a god in there folklore, although I don’t know how I guess legit that is (maybe someone remind Oda of it (kidding party not))
Loki will be significant to uranus 13:26
lmfao, that sentence rofl
I see, the sun disk your referring to
Uranus the planet, the God or ...?
He didn't reveal his true power
Lol he really didn't at all. He's does that for clicks
@ I know it's irritating
Prediction: Eustace Kidd will be the one to free Loki in order to seek revenge against the Red-Hair pirates and the giants of Elbaph. And that will kickstart the final war in full force. I'm also predicting that Saul was the Man Marked By Flames and had since handed the last Road Poneglyph to Shanks (hence the reason Shanks was even on Elbaph in the first place). And lastly, I predict that Loki was the mysterious figure who is said to be one of the twelve key figures in the race for the One Piece.
i think hajrudin is inspired from a real life person heyreddin barbarosaa (redbeard) who first was a prominent pirate in 1600 he did piracy during that time and had a strong pirate fleet after recognising his power king made him a navy fleet commander and then admiral he too had a brother who was killed, so by analogy ig hajrudin would be caught red handed (as redbeard ofc) and then we will get to know he did betryal and was with navy whole time and he killed his father himself not loki but his father herald ( herald = something big i comming ) gave the df to loki knowing hajrudins intention and then eventually killed and the blame was transfered to loki maybe shanks helped hajrudin here to get his hand on elbaf as a yonko territory and here it is now, the present scenario
I would simply love it if Loki ate the gum gum fruit and just thinks it's the hito hito Nomi's first level bevor achiving Gear 5
lol the helmet is amazing on this
Great video like always ❤
And those mentions of Shanks meeting with the gorosei and possibly being evil suddenly makes me wonder if Shanks is actually Imu, like that would just be fucked up.
But of course it was a while since i saw that scene so i may be missing a few details that disprove it.
Buddy. That wasn’t shanks meeting with the Gorosei. They never once addressed him as shanks-they also intentionally *didn’t* show his left eye with the scar … Because it’s literally not shanks.
And no-shanks isn’t Imu. That’s absolutely ridiculous.
no way loki is yonko level. the way he reacted to luffy toying with the monsters looks to me like he has never seen anyone do that so easily including him. so far loki gives off insane buggy vibes
Loki level is between yonko and YC
The patricide. I'm seeing Skyrim flashbacks. It was an honorable duel and they didn't want Ulfric Stormcloak to be the High King.
YOU WONT LEAVE ELBAF ALIVE!
Black beard isn't killing shanks. He's getting killed by Garland when he tried to make a deal with the elders. Garland is going to use him and his crew as a show of power and take him out.
21:34 i think bro loves robin💀
I'm seeing some Blackbeard and Doflamingo paralels here... Also, Oda likes to use eyes and glasses to represent worldview of people, in Loki's case they are hidden, meaning yeah, we arent supposed to be sure what's his deal yet. And innacurate judging by following hearsay is like half the story, the strawhats, Robin, Buggy, Crocodile, Doflamingo, the Navy... they all have apulic face different from what they are/were really about. Myth Loki wasnt evil per-se, he was a trickster that got into trouble but also helped the aesir on occasion... until the Baldr situation. So he might be about as neutral as Shanks is, with just a different presentation.
Loki!!! His appearance and calling himself the sun god can be the reason imu has the giant straw hat at mari joe
Less then a min in and it's Loki killing Shanks prediction. Very bold of you and I'm commenting so I can come back to this. You sir are either a genuine genius or delusional, and I'm excited to find which one 😂🙏
its midnight in nepal but still watching your videos
22:45 I mean if you think of it, ALL of Hito Hito nomi are capable of changing size of their body ( mainly giantification since all of them so far are human sized), who knows if what Loki ate is also a Hito Hito nomi.
Roger’s illness is still a big mystery. Maybe Saul contracted the Rodger’s illness while researching the void century.
Hmm is there a possibility of Shanks lied to cover Luffy that has the Son God fruit and pretended to gave it to King of Giants? And instead is a similar fruit with sun power or Katakuri like powers?
Thats way could earn their trust if it wasnt in friendly terms by them since they worship sungod and protect them at the same time, so Loki got jealous and did what he did..
6:20 - Wasn't it the duel with Mihawk that made Shanks a Yonkou? Maybe after he was a Yonkou, he helped the giants capture Loki.
Loki being chained up also makes me wonder if he's supposed to be a parallel to Baldr thereby being nigh invulnerable? Guess time will tell
Have the name of a Mythological God, a mythical zoan, hyped for a long time, important reputation in a warrior country, he'll 100% be cool
*Remember Orochi* He'll 99% be cool
So I watch the anime, but I’m curious where you all read the manga? What’s a good site to use?
every one searches for the connection "6 years ago" but it is simply: Loki was the yonko at that time. Maybe not seen by himself or the other giants, but from the World Goverment perspective he was. Shanks defeated him and became the Yonko.
Oh shoot, you might be right…
Big fan ohara and it is cool theory
I would hate to see it, but I’d also LOVE the story if it does go into shanks becoming or revealing his true intentions and not being a purely good or good at all character. A good ol betrayal is top tier.
What if Loki knows he's not the Sun God and has been saying he is in an attempt to throw off anyone who is looking for the fruit.
The World government had the fruit so what if they killed his father took the fruit and Loki asked Shanks to retrieve it. Loki is told by Shanks a kid ate it so Loki decides he'll protect the new Sun god by telling everyone he has the fruits power.
This is probably gonna be sinilar to the Impel Down arc with the layers.
if the nika fruit was from elbaf and the previous user of the fruit was joyboy then mabye joyboy wasa giant and also indicating that there was the big strawhat with imu this backs it up even more
I would really appreciate it if you made a video on 'What if Gojo Satoru at full power ate all of Ryomen Sukuna's fingers?'.
Literally 5,6 ads on this video seriously broda😂
Make sense as Luffy also normally runs into the main ally of a story arc before the main antagonist too
Starting to see parallels between Shanks and Tyr/Odin as if he was meant to be a mish mash of the two. Which would make sense seeing as Loki seems to almost be a combination of Loki/Fenrir, destined to kill Shanks and forever imprisoned for an unforgivable crime (like the murder of Baldr).
remember the giant who was able to shape shift, the daughter to the chef who was captured by the marines, just before punk hazard, fluffy stayed they should fight like that again, we may see her again on elbaf.
Not saying he will, but another way to have Loki join the crew aside a size changing fruit could be this...they are literally on the island of the Adam Tree, which Sunny is made of. Franky (and Lilith?) could spend a couple weeks after the plot of Elbaph is solved to upgrade the Sunny to be FRIGGIN MASSIVE or build a companion ship just for Loki, or Lilith creates a shrink gun and shrinks him, or he just joins the fleet, the New Giant pirates arrive, and he sets off with them.
Those all seem like viable-ish options assuming Loki doesn't have some sort of body altering fruit.
Edit: PFFTAHAHAHA I just realized, if he joins the crew and this arc + Egghead combined dont cause a bounty bonus for the crew, Loki would be #2, pushing down Zoro and Sanji (I mean Sanji's already not top 3 anymore, but Jinbei doesnt really care, but those two do). But that also means that if he does join and we DO get bounty boosts (Probably the penultimate one before the end of the story. Or possibly the last, who knows), Zoro prolly will keep his #2 spot so his bounty will be OVER 2.6 billion! And Luffy's will probably join the previous generation Yonko in the 4 billions. Maybe Usopp will cross the 1 billion marker (He tend to have one of Luffy's previous bounties, so logically his next bounty will be 1.5 billion right?). Robins already so close, she'll obv cross 1 billion as well. Nami will be in the 400+ range and be miserable.
I wonder if Cross Guild has been doin shit off screen and Buggy's goes up as well, also getting into the 4 billions, surpassing Mihawk even since, afterall, Mihawk is just his "subordinate" :p
NGL, whether Loki joins the main crew or not (wtf will his role even be?), I'm pretty excited for the potential of the next bounties. But I guess thats pretty normal for this fandom. The quiet bits in-between arcs where we learn "NUMBERS WENT UP LADS!" is basically our favorite part as a community lmao. Individually we like other parts more. But EVERYONE likes new bounty reveals.
How about next nakama? I may be going overboard here but the idea is dope!
wild guess, there could be 2 or even more nika fruits: it could be like in the story of dragonball where there are different dragoballs like we recently learned in Daima that there are dragon balls in the demon world. So maybe there are likewise fruit on the moon or other planets. . I know it would blow the whole story about devil fruits but.... who knows what Oda is cooking :D
1. The fruit that was supposed to get passed down to Loki was indeed Model Nika
2. Navy was sent to retrieve it, by the orders of the Gorosei
3. Shanks was also tasked by the Gorosei behind the curtains to snatch it since the Navy alone cannot be completely trusted with such an important objective. ( I suspect that Shanks also may have a hand on the killing of the King too)
4. While transporting the DF the unexpected happens a kid eats it.
5. Shanks decides to shift the plans and instead of killing the kid and try to find the DF all over again grooms luffy until the time is right to kill him, which explains the moves he makes after model Nika is awakened. ( Like Harry Potter was planned to be sacrificed by Dumbledore)
6. Here is my theory, I believe Shanks does all of this to either gain some sort of a status back in the Mariejois to be the person that retrieves or eliminates the Joyboy threat (which would explain him still being in contact with the gorosei despite being raised as an orphan who was left to die) if indeed the plan is to paint Shanks as a Antagonist. If not to get revenge for leaving him to die
We're actually getting an entire arc based on Germanic/Nordic cultures and mythology in One Piece?! This is too awesome to be happening
My Wild Guesses:
1. Shanks is a Clone of Imu.
2. It's Imu who went to the Gorosei and not Shanks
3. Loki has a Trickster Fruit :)
Meaning he can make illusions that he is strong. And It's Ussop who will defeat him
4. An Odin or Thor Character will be the Enemy in the Elbaf Arc. He was the one who killed Loki's Father
I just realized a way that there can be two Sun-God fruits associated with the same Sun-God:
One of them (the one Luffy has) is a Mythical Zoan based *on* Sun-Go Nika, but since Sun-God Nika was a specific person, that means...
...there could also be a devil-fruit that was once eaten *by* Sun-God Nika, and passed onwards when he died. This could be any type of devil-fruit, but I have a suspicion it's a Logia.
Loki is definitely my favorite new villain since Katakiri.
Oda: introduces a new Charakter
Ohara: here's why the character joins the strawhats
At least is confirmed that Loki has a very good Observation Haki to dodge a gear4 punch while blindfolded
The Captain of the New Giant Pirates did a brief shantie near the end of the chapter. I'm sucker for shanties. 😅 And Robin... 😍 wooooooo, thank you Oda. 👍🏻🇵🇷
I would love this conversation to be a foreshadowing of loki actually destroying the blackbeard pirates in return for luffy freeing him way later once luffy and him became friends.. sadly it would rob us of some highly anticipated straw hat vs blackbeard matchups
I think because navigator Road of the New Giant Warrior Pirates cosplayed as Loki with the deer mask I think Loki has the Leshy devil fruit an Eastern European demigod like creature who is the god of the forest which has a roaring voice this giant can merge with the forest and is part plant and can change size and is often adorned with a deer like skull and can control the animals of the forest I believe the sun powers stems from Loki's use of photosynthesis.
The possibility of the sun god/Nika being a giant since the sun god has been reference to a god in Elbaph and the giant straw hat
Video Idea: What would the Strawhats be without the timeskip? Yes they are weaker but everything they has done in the OG storyline would be 2 years ahead too so, Punk Hazard 2 years ago, is Law with Ceaser Clown? No Fugitora in Dressrosa? No Kimenkon and Momuske?? It’s a very interesting concept
Nice hat
Loki in the crew will give me Pizarro vibes trying to take over, not convinced but nonetheless could be cool
I haven't seen anyone make this connection yet but theres an interesting situation here. As we know devil fruits, specially mythical zoans, have a will of their own and they sort of "choose" their holder based on their personality. Interestingly, Loki is showing a LOT of Luffy's traits. He misspelled Luffy's name (Luffy does this a lot), he has an affinity with animals and wants to be a sun god, just like Luffy wants to be the king of the pirates. In fact had Luffy be born in Elbaf, he might have wanted the same dream too. Back in Egghead, Dorry and Brogy referred to Luffy as the Sun God. How would they know this unless they already knew what the sun god is supposed to look like? I do think it is possible that Loki has a similar fruit to Luffy and that's how Dory and Brogy recognized his form.
It's their god in mythology, they know because it's their religion.
Loki will be top 20 fr
@@JustMe-ug4ni top 10 for sure 👍🏽
Yea this is the first time I agree something with Loki bc he is almost yonko lvl
Perhaps Shanks has an audience with the Gorosei because he's the only thing keeping Loki from being released.
That’s probably why the giants said that shanks haki is close to joyboys, it’s definitely clear they talking about that moment
I have theory, imu spelled backwards is umi meaning sea or ocean, shank's sword handle is a half moon shape and luffy is the sun god.
What if shanks has inherited the will of joyboys brother that was responsible for haki usuage and the mechanical aspects of the ancient world.
With joyboys robot companion having to betray joyboy as he was commanded to by his brother.
It would explain how imu has a giant straw hat in their domain, shanks walking in on the gorisei and potentially the origins of haki.
well whatever this loki would do, I am already his fan
The key is a giant's key.
So it is huge.
Maybe a giant from the alliance will steal it for the Crew... for what he did..
I think there was a time when roger said to shank when Roger said to Shank that one day a child of Prophecy would come and take one piece, and shank knew it is Luffy. So i think shank is trying to prove that he can find the one piece
Given both Road and Loki call themselves the Sun God, it's possible this is simply a title among the giants. It's the title of the ruler of Elbaf, beyond just "King". Road introduced himself as the "Sun God", because he was the ruler of his own realm, meaning the Lego diorama he built as a prison. Loki considers himself the rightful ruler of Elbaf, hence why he calls himself the Sun God. Whether this is because of the Nika fruit or something else, is yet to be seen. Still, it's clear the giants believe in MANY gods. Dorry and Broggy first mentioned the "War God Elbaf" which the country was named after wayback in Little Garden, and we now know they also worship a "Sun God". The giants may just have an entire pantheon of "forbidden gods" the World Government doesn't want the world to know about. This pantheon might even predate the Blank/Void Century, given how old the giants are as civilization.
Loki will be Kaido Lvl or even stronger
i thought the same
Loki has THE Aura
I feel like Kaido would be much stronger since he was the strongest creature
I gotta disagree a little bc I think Loki has halfe of kaido’s power bc he has the half of kaido’s bounty being 2.6 billion
@@josephluo5670bro Loki is fucking gaint 🥴