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My TVS-872XT is setup with HDD Raid, QTier Sata SSD Raid and Nvme Cash Raid full I/O. Depends on workload, filesize, read or write respons the tieringlayer and/or cash.
What's the reason to recommend QTS over QuTS Hero for 10GB network support?
For 10GbE... no reason at all. Both will work great with it. The reason we recommend QTS for video editing is simply because some of the extra features that ZFS are just not required for the types of data they work with, E.g. DeDuplication.
QuTS hero is more resource heavy compared to QTS.
I have a WIFI 7 router with a 10 GbE port. (Two, but one is the WAN). A QNap switch with two 10GbE ports, a QNap NAS with a QNap PCIe card with two 10GbE ports. How do I set up the PCIe card to get 10 GbE from the switch, and use the second 10 GbE port to connect my Mac Studio to the NAS and get a connection to the router for access to the whole network and Internet? The NAS also has SSD acceleration enabled. Thanks!
You would have to create a Virtual Switch in our Network and Virtual Switch application, there is a wizard for doing a Bridged network, you would want to combine both 10GbE on the QNAP NAS into this.
If you got only 1 editor you can get away without SSD caching. I got TS-H973AX and just 5HDD in RAID6 and I can edit multiple 4k streams of this volume (QTS Hero). I thought about getting ssd cache, but never experienced any hiccups.
Well it really depends what you edit, if you deal with RAW video format like Red RAW, BM RAW or ARRIRAW this is a whole other story
@@levraichris3321 Sure thing. I'm able to edit 2 BRAW 6k streams of my NAS, but seems it's more CPU limitation than NAS itself.
For H265/H264 streams I'm able to play and edit smoothly 7-8 4k streams (422 250Mbit). Again it seems it's limitation of GPU encoder than NAS itself.
No SSD caching, 64GB of RAM in the NAS.
If you want to edit multiple hardcore RAW media streams, first you need good decoders. And then the limitation would be 10Gbps network (1.2GB/s tops).
If on mac you can utilize NAS with Thunderbolt 4 to get 40Gbps speeds, they it might be a good idea to have all SSD NAS.
Hey! I've got the Qnap NAS with all 10gbe installed + QNAP 10gbe Switch, and plugged into a OWC Thunderbolt3 dock with 10gbe. When I test file transfer speeds, I'm only getting about 400 write speed and 600 read speed on black magic disk speed tool. I've configured both the NAS and and OWC doc to have jumbo frames. Any ideas why I'm not getting close to 900mb/s write speeds?
Using Cat6a cable.
same
Which NAS are you using? Which drives do you have? How many drives do you have? Which RAID mode are you using? Will try to answer once I have a little more information.
@@QNAPUK
-QNAP TS-473A-8G AMD Ryzen quad-core 2.2 GHz 2.5GbE NAS supports M.2 NVMe SSD and PCIe expansion
-2 x 1TB m.2 SSD installed (caching)
-4 x WD Red Plus 12TB NAS 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - 7200 RPM Class, SATA 6 Gb/s, CMR, 256MB Cache
-RAID 5
-QM2-2P10G1TB
-QNAP QSW-2104-2T 2-port 10GbE RJ45
According to WD those HDD's can do up to 196MB/s, when you multiply that by 4 and perhaps remove a little off the top for some RAID overheads, your speeds would be what I would expect. The NAS can definitely go faster, but the drives and quantity of them are limiting total max speed. (Bear in mind the 196MB/s quoted by WD is their best result with ideal data, which blackmagic might not be using)
@@QNAPUK Thank you for responding, very helpful!
Great video thanks.. 🙂 I am a video producer..on Windows 10- I have a QNAP TS-4648 ..with 4 8TG Seagate HDDs and using 2 2TB NvMe for cache ..I am getting better results (around 900MBps) with the cache mode set to All I/O -- not set to random (380MBps).. but then All I/O is recommended for file serving and media.. whereas Random is recommended for database and virtualisation.. why do you recommend All I/O?
I have TS-877 direct connected using Intel x540-T2 NIC, 6 WD Pro 6TB HDD and 2 1TB SSD (same Cache Settings) I can only max out at 200 mb/sec. MTU set 9000, whats wrong with my setup?
How do you have the HDD's setup? Individual or RAID? Also your NIC is not on our compatibility list, think it starts at X550 on that NAS.
Raid 5 with 2 SSD in read write cache. As for the nic it's the exact same model as x520 just a newer revision
I have a qnap ts-831x and it’s driving me crazy. Even nvme drives running on a qm2 add in card are only peaking around 300MB write, 700MB read. I’ve gotten faster read and write speeds in the past but can’t remember how I had it configured. I want to speed up my raid 6 volume with cache acceleration but there’s not much point if the nvme drives are barely performing faster than my raid6 volume 😫
Any ideas?
The PCIe slot in the TS-831X is only Gen2 x2, which would max out at 1,000MB/s. The cache isn't really about MB/s though, it's about IOPS, accelerating the smaller blocks that HDD's are not very efficient at.
8 x HDD's on their own is probably faster than the speed you can get through a Gen2 x2 PCIe slot. But it does depend on the type of data, in a benchmark tool... HDD's will show up quicker in this situation, but under a mixed load real-world set of data and usage, it's probably better with a cache to accelerate the things the HDD's are slow at.
Any suggestions for Video-file replication over multiple sites?
Very much down to your internet connection, if it was the same site I would recommend 10GbE all the way.
if you have the means an LTO-9 is an option. Also, Synology has the C2 solution. If you want to do it by hand rsync will work but you need a fixed IP address.
I am getting only 500mbps write speed with 10gbps read speed with my connected QNAP NAS. I’ve done the AJA test and can’t see where the bottleneck is
Please give information which NAS you have, what storage is in your NAS and how it is configured, how have you got the 10GbE connection setup, details on all items from the NAS to the computer. I'll see if I can point you in the right direction.
Is it possible to achieve those speeds with only 4 x 3.5" drives (7200rpm)?
Typically no, a good SATA HDD, 7200rpm, will max out around 210MB/s (maybe some are a little faster) with ideal data... multiply that by 4 and you still don't have these speeds, this is also not account for the fact that a lot of data isn't ideal like in a benchmark tool a lot of the time and losses for things like RAID redundancy, which does have an overhead associated with it. More drives is usually faster.
Is it the SSD caching that makes QTS more suitable for this than QUTS Hero?
I also wonder because under the hood I believe/understand that QuTS Hero (ZFS) is the faster-performant files system versus QTS (EXT4).
Although the set-up (read: choices the user must make during the installation) is more complex with QuTS Hero versus QTS.
QuTS hero can really only do a read cache... but with video editing it is better to accelerate the data both ways, read and write, QTS can do this with the SSD cache.
@@QNAPUK Thanks, understood; I will look into that as we are planning to migrate to QuTS Hero exclusively (30+ QNAPs).
Any QNAP sources available on the web regarding this specific subject?
Or can we request a video on this channel which dives a wee bit deeper into this specific subject-matter for QuTS Hero?
Thanks!
@@QNAPUK Interesting. What you're saying is that the ZIL doesn't work as well as the QTS write cache, right?
Depends on the type of data, can also depend on number of HDD's you have in a RAID as well... if you have 12 HDD's in a RAID then that RAID will work really well without a cache for a lot of types of data, if it was only 2 HDD's, then the performance is lower as you only have 2 drive worth of performance to pull from.
I have the TVS-h1688x with a similar setup using 10Gbe port + thunderbolt adapter and am only getting around 100MB/s. Why do you think this is?
What's the full configuration of the NAS, drives etc?
Thanks for this video, very interesting stuff. How would you configure the NAS (Cache), when you have to deal with video footage (large files) and thousands of small files (image sequences from 3D rendering or timelapse photos) at the same time? I am using a TVS-872XT with 8 x 10TB HDDs (no caching enabled). AJA and BM speedtests are fine (about 700-900 MB/s read/write on Mac and Windows) but these tests are usually done with large files > 2GB.
Cache will definitely help with smaller files... if you really only have 1 purpose for the NAS then set the cache to accelerate "All I/O", no matter what you do on the NAS the cache will assist with it.
Tuning the cache with selective block sizes is only needed if you have some data on the NAS that really doesn't need help from the cache.
@@QNAPUK Thank you very much for the fast response. One last question about cache: It is best to set it up as Raid 1 for safety reasons, right?
If doing a read/write cache, it should always be redundant, otherwise an SSD failure could lead to data loss. As you write new data into the NAS there is a short period where that data is on the SSD's only (until the HDD's catch up) and if you were unfortunate to get an SSD failure at that moment, data loss would be certain.
I have a 4 disk qnap bt345 ( Raid 5 ) with ssd caching set to 16mb, connected via thunderbolt . I am getting 138 read and 175 write. Does anyone know if this sounds right?
I was hoping to get up around 500MB/s
The cache wont really show up in benchmark software as they typically write and read a new file for each test, so the cache can never cache that file. The cache benefits most when continuous working on the same file.
@@QNAPUK thanks soon much. So do my read and writes sound optimum for this setup?
@@insidechocolatewithjimothy5313 I'm having the same issue. I'm not sure they understood your question. My speeds are only 10% of what he's getting.
@@sterling_adgate hi Stirling mine was a driver issue.
Downloaded Intel tb driver now sweet
@@insidechocolatewithjimothy5313what driver was that?
Thin or thick? Qtier on or off?
Thin is more flexible, thick is a little faster. For Qtier... depends on the situation, would need a lot more information. Normally an SSD cache is a better option for video editing, it's real-time, Qtier is more of a scheduled task.