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Best NAS Storage for Video Editing | What You Need To Know!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ส.ค. 2024
- Creating the ultimate video editing NAS using the QNAP TS-h973AX with over 60TB worth of Western Digital storage. Editing 4K video directly off a Network Attached Storage device with multiple users is possible if you set it up correctly, so in today's video I'm going to show you how!
QNAP TS-h973AX NAS: go.alex.live/qnap-ts-h973ax
QNAP Expansion Bay (TL-D800C): go.alex.live/qnap-tl-d800c
QNAP Thunderbolt 3 to 10GbE Adapter: go.alex.live/qnap-t310g1t
Western Digital Red Plus 12TB Hard Drives: go.alex.live/wd120efbx
Western Digital Red SA500 SSD's: go.alex.live/wd-sa500
Western Digital Ultrastar DC SN640 NVMe SSD's: go.alex.live/ultrastar
CyberPower Uninterruptible Power Supply: go.alex.live/cyberpower-ups
My Camera Setup & Other Setups:
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Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
01:00 What Is A NAS
02:52 My NAS Goals
04:57 My NAS Setup
11:52 Setup Tips & Tricks
14:50 Edit Testing & My Experiences
21:06 Round Up
22:36 Got a Question?
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I rarely comment on any video here on TH-cam but that was insane. Super informative. It answered all the questions in my mind about how I should setup a NAS system of my own. Thank you Alex 🙏
Hey Alex, thank you so much for this video!! You basically first described all the problems our new found production company is facing right now and then solved them. With a team of 4 Editors and normally 2 people working on the same project, this seems to be exactly what we need. I also watched the other video about upgrading your network to 10Gbit and that's also what we gonna do. You just saved my day since Ive been looking into this stuff for over a week now without proper results. Im also definitely not an IT Freak but you explained everything so well.
Thank you so much man and keep up the great work!
All Love from Berlin!
Saved it in what way? Im just starting out my company here in the U.S but it's not like im going to have that many employees from the get go, and I don't have a big budget so I was looking for cheaper NAS options, do you think that's a bad idea? What exactly will I be missing out on? I just wanted to use it for storage.
Since you are a professed Newbee to NAS I commend you for going full speed (after proper research) ahead to resolving your storage needs first then realizing that you have a new work horse at your finger tips. I am a retired IT pro and shoot mainly photography (dancers) with some instructional and demo videos. I bought a QNAP dual drive in 2020 (8TB total) and shut down my (aging out) 2014 WD MyCloud Drive 2TB system. I utilize 2 external drives (4TB & 2TB) attached to the USB port via a Hub to provide backup vs RAID 0 or 1. Rock on and get that 10GB network online.
Hi Alex. Following your advice relating to this NAS, I did a lot of research which confirmed that this unit it still up to date in the market despite all the announcements which have been made in the past year. It is definitely not cheap once loaded with 9 drives, but I decided to buy one because your were so enthusiastic about it. I do not have any regrets at all. Using a 10GbE switch from QNAP to connect a 2019 MacBook Pro to it with a OWC Thunderbolt 3 adapter, I get very fast connection and the unit performs very well. It is so snappy ! Thanks for making such a good and truthful review.
I am using it with QuTS Hero 5 and I set up all the necessary security measures to avoid being hacked.
I am so happy 😊
Well done, Sir!
I thoroughly enjoyed the video. You did a great job with your presentation.
EXACTLY what I was looking for!!! Liked & Subscribed!!! Great Job!!!
DEFINITELY want to see you do a remote editing session with your NAS.
I’m SURE I’ll be emailing you to help me set mine up!!!
Alex, I’m new but now subscribe. The information you’ve imparted here is impressive, but not only that, you’re very clear and concise in a educative way. Just wanted to say thanks. watching this video was a big help and just what i’ve been looking for. 👏👍
Hey Andrew, Thank you so much for the kind words! It really means a lot to me that you found the video helpful. Thank you for your support!
Thank you, I’ll definitely consider set up one of these since I’m so fed up with dozens hard drives all around and every time wasting time to look for some old projects when old customers show up…
Finally! Thanks so much for making this video! I’ve wanted to add a NAS to our home network for years, but the information out there has either not been relevant to my use case, or has felt like I need to get a degree in computer science to understand.
Now that we’re about to undertake a full retrofit of our new home, the place will be wired with Cat6a throughout for up to 10Gb/s, but mostly running AVB between a music teaching space and a garden studio over 1Gb network. So I can see a similar NAS setup to this, in an under-stairs switch cupboard, working perfectly for our backup, sample libraries and media sharing 😀
Btw, browsing your other videos, are you in south Essex? If you are, howdy neighbour! Hope you’re enjoying Christmas and have great New Year!
English, Data! I have no idea what you just said and yet I understand. Thanks! It was very informative.
Thank you. I am definitely looking forward to more NAS and 10 Gig switch content. For video workflows!!
Awesome to hear! More coming soon for sure :)
The video I've been looking for. Thank you!
Great video. Looking forward to seeing your upgraded system video.
This is a great video, and it's amazing to see a NAS using the kind of setup that was once confined to datacenters (e.g. ZFS pools w/ SSD and NVMe). Two questions: are you using the JBOD strictly as a daisy-chained NAS extender? I saw that QNAP offers the option of single-disk mode which could be useful for swapping in drives and using it as a big standalone external enclosure, but the formatting options to do that and also extend the NAS seem more limited, especially for Mac users. Also, what filesystem are you using for your storage pools?
I really hope you enjoyed this NAS video! If you did, check out Part 2, which looks at installing a 10 Gigabit home nework for the QNAP NAS, for fully maximise it's speeds: th-cam.com/video/58VrDiKyvmU/w-d-xo.html :)
Can you use SSD for the upper drives? I know it’s probably a bigger expense, but isn’t there less of a chance of HD failure with SSD over the mechanical drives, or am I wrong about that?
@@jnap47 Yep, you could create a completely SSD based NAS, which would also give you faster read/write speeds too. As you say, it would be more expensive, but less likely to have drive failures with SSD's!
How much total?
EXACTLY what I was looking for!!! Liked & Subscribed!!! Great Job!!!
DEFINITELY want to see you do a remote editing session with your NAS.
I’m SURE I’ll be emailing you to help me set mine up!!!
@@alex_nemo_ Depends how much storage you want? You can’t really get affordable high capacity SSDs. I think an 8TB NAS SATA SSD is about 2 to 3 times the price of a mechanical hard drive, and that’s about the largest off the shelf capacity you can get. An 8TB NVMe drive is about twice as much again, but they don’t fot regular slots.
Thank you Alex - I've been looking at getting this particular NAS and I use BRAW files all the time at work. To see both in action (and working!) was very reassuring. Will be interesting to see how it performs in Premiere Pro as Resolve always performs better, but I am hopeful. We also use a mix of PCs and Macs and I understand the Hero FS can be configured for that? Anyway, nice job there.
Class video mate, really informative!
This is the best review of this NAS model.
Thanks Alex that was incredibly informative . Happy new Year and all the best for 2024!
Glad to hear it Stewart! Have a great New Year!
Amazing video my man! Really informative, thanks for your effort!
Thanks very much. glad you enjoyed it!
If you use the QNAP QDA-U2MP eclosure you can accommodate two M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe SSDs per each eclosure, basically transforming the NAS from 9 to 11 bays. This will allow having BOTH the QNAP OS and the SSD cache in each own RAID PCIe NVMe SSDs. The SATA SSDs can just be used for just another volume.
This is what I am planning on doing with mine. Thanks for the recommendation.
New to editing and trying to do everything right. This is sooo overwhelming and I dont even know how to ask the right questions here. I shall keep researching, but thanks for all the information.
I remember you from the days of Periscope. A pioneer, really, in that genre. So glad I found your channel! Excellent video! Wishing you the Best on TH-cam and seeing your future projects. -Kat
Now that is a trip down memory lane!! Thanks so much for the lovely comment Kat!
Sub'ed! keepup the good work.
Thanks for sharing, it really helps. Very curious to see the Remote access and 10GbE switch ideas!
Great video. I am an amateur and I understood about 60% of this, but this is a great start for me.
Very good explain .. clear and precise thank you
Excellent valuable intel. I have older Drobo NAS devices that I use just for backup. Never got good performance. I am just recreational video geek and going in different direction for now. Am getting new 16” MacBook M1 Max with 4 TB. Then offload to external SSD and Drobo and then to IDrive for offsite storage 10 TBs which is not expensive. Will keep your NAS solution in mind.
"Get into TH-cam" they said, "it will be fun and easy"...... So I had a second hand laptop 2 years ago. Now I have an Intel i9 with RTX 3070, Davinci Resolve 17 Studio.... Upgraded my broadband from 60gb to 300gb. and now you come along and blow my mind!! Thanks.
I've had a 120tb 12bay nas qnap for 3 years and a 80tb synology 12bay for 7. After ask that time I just bought a new Synology to move all the drives from the qnap over. The qnap has been a HUGE pain. Horrible support, massive issues, ip problems slow downs and security issues. The synology has been solid and way more reliable. Not as fast but so much better AND actually has support that will help when you loose your array.
Qnap I have 2 backup drives attatched for safety and I'm still scared I'll lose it all some day.
It’s not just the SSD caching. When you have a RAID array as opposed to JBOD, you’re also treating the mechanical drives like a parallel connection. So if each mechanical drive would hit 120MB/s, you’re going to get around 450MB/s (it also has to write parity data or overhead which is why it’s not 600MB/s). If you go beyond the amount of SSD cache in a single transfer you’ll be able to see the speed of your mechanical drives.
not in a raid 5 while writing to the array. There is no Write speed gained, you are limited to single drive speeds, so the cache acceleration with write cache is very helpful. (Quts Hero OS uses ram ZIL caching for write cache so in this case his SSD's aren't directly helping, it's the ZFS file system)
@@Rocman76 Incorrect ZFS RAID-Z1 (which should NEVER be used with 5 12TB disks), has a sequential write of Aprox n-p, so 4*120MB/s= 460MB/s. In practice however, this would be closer to about n-(p*2), taking some bottlenecks into account, so closter to about 350MB/s.
You are, however, limited to single-disk iops.
Fantastic overview on the topic! 💪👏 There are so many moving (and initially costly) parts to consider when you're completely new to the realm of NAS, so it is really assuring to see that you've got a tried and tested solution in place! Many people say Synology is somewhat an easier brand to use, but you seem to be just fine with QNAP too. Have you appended the system with an extension enclosure via the USB-C port as of yet? ... I'm going to have to find a Thunderbolt 2 to 10Gbit adapter somewhere in order to utilize the max speeds! 😅
- Eero
Best NAS video on TH-cam. Cheers!
Thanks Mat! Appreciate it :)
Nice looking setup, I like that the NVME is accessible from the front. I edit slow motion video for birds in flight and such directly from the NAS as well as photos. I chose Synology DS1819+ and I now have a second NAS a DS1821+. I had a HDD failure on my 1819+ and needed to restore files to a separate storage array to avoid data loss. When the HDD failure occurred, it wrote corrupted files to my NAS recycle bin and when I tried to restore my main folder from the recycle bin my files ended up being 0 Bytes, so it was my fault. The hot swap of the corrupted drive originally worked fine it was my extra step that messed it up. I found some NAS software where was able to recover the majority of my RAW files without file names. It's still restoring 31TB of data now. I reached out to a restore company and they wanted 5K - 25K to restore my files. Synology couldn't assist with it, so having a NAS doesn't fully protect you from data loss & at these sizes a cloud backup solution is not affordable for most unless you want another car or house payment. A second NAS for me was the cheaper option.
Good video..so as you have 60 terabytes of storage in mechanical drives, don't beleive anyone who tells you that mechanical drives will become obsolete soon. This really demonstrate that it still will be with us for a very long time.
That's Amazing. My main concern was the editing from the NAS in Da Vinci Resolve, but I believe that's covered with the SSDs. That's phenomenal. I haven't worked with 4K content yet, but I'm planning on upgrading my storage solution. I'm tired of going drive to drive.
Awesome to hear Eddy! Glad the video was useful :) Yeah so far, it’s been an absolute breeze editing in DaVinci directly off of the NAS! I love it and sure you will too.
It's covered with enough drives in Raid 5/6, which can be faster than SSDs.
Super helpful. Thanks, mate.
Amazing video! Super helpful. Does running the System Storage Pool off the SSDs take up 1tb of space? Also would love a more detailed breakdown video of how you set up your pools and settings for video editing. Also would love to see your workflow. I've got the 1288x and am excited to get the most out of it for video work! Thanks for the info!
Well done!
great video. you showed me exactly what other didn't show what NAS can do.
Very helpful video, especially filled a few knowledge gaps.
Awesome video, thanks!
Another great edit!
Thanks Loz! Appreciate it mate :) We need to get you one of these with the mountain of hard drives that you have full of footage 😉
This is very helpful! Thanks!
Really well made video.
Super Helpful brother. Thank you!
Glad to hear it Johnny! Thanks for the comment
Thanks for the excellent overview I picked one up on ebay open box unused for $ 500 and Populated it with refurbished Western Digital 14TB Ultrastar DC HC530 SATA HDD - 7200 RPM Class, SATA OEM drives for $150. because they're actually Hitachi server drives that last forever and for me it's better to have the drives last than the warranty I also I also got 1.2 TB the Mvne SSD drives used for half price and Cheaper SSDs that test out with better performance specs than the red ones just because. I''m upgrading the memory to 16GB. Waiting for my switch next, Other than that I'm Basically mirrioring Alex's setup though I use a PC not a Mac so we'll see how it all goes. Thanks Again.
This is great to see, thanks Alex. I've been running a TS-453BT3 over 10GBe for a few years, but it's not really been up to video editing. Adding an M.2 nvme cache has helped a lot, but as I now need to expand storage further, I'd been looking at the TVS-672XT. However, I hadn't seen the TS-h973AX and think it suits my need better. Nice one 👍
I really like that it has SATA SSD and nvme slots. Are you setting your SSDs in a RAID 1 for the operating system I wonder? On my current set up (RAID 5) the OS is so sluggish on the TS-453BT3, I really want something that's snappy.
Great video. Hybrid nas.... nice! That seems to be the ticket to editing straight from a NAS.
Well explained - thanks Alex! Would love to see a more detailed view on your file/ structure and Davinci workflow using the NAS storage if that's possible and worth sharing for you (?)
Great video, thank you.
...great video, all around!
EXCELLENT information! Would you still buy the same Qnap NAS today in january 2023? Or is there a newer version?
Hi. I'm not sure that you get much real speed advantage by having the OS and the Apps on the very fast drives. In use the software is loaded into even much faster Random Access Memory and run from there - and you did get the upgraded version. Probably not taking up much room on the NVME so it's not the wrong thing to do. There is some debate about using Raid 5 configuration which you might like to look at online. Also, careful with the cupboard - make sure you have good ventilation into it or the NAS will run hotter than otherwise. The cooler electronics are the longer they last. Thank you very much for publishing this, the planning is very helpful. I've got a significant problem with data volumes using Canon Raw Light - about half a terabyte per hour just from one camera. Liked and subd.
Great video!
I want to see more NAS related videos... Thanks for this
Good to know! Consider it done ;)
Two other notes:
It's gonna overheat in a closet; drives toss out a *lot* of British Thermal Units.
And I wouldn't use the U.2 for the boot drives; I'd mirror the 2.5 SATAs and use those. You need the speed for data a lot more than for the programs.
GReat video, really well explained and sod etailed. REally, thank you so much. Now, is there a reason you only use Western Digital drives? Are they providing some sort of sponsorship or you find them to be the most reliable for this system?
Great video as usual, I'm going for a 6 bay NAS just to have a hot spare and be extra sure that I'm covered. The content creation makes us extra paranoid! 🤣
Hey Isaac, totally agreed, the more redundancy you can give yourself, the better 😊 I have nightmares about data loss 😂
@@AlexPettitt working in weddings makes you that way
The thing I like about your QNAP that I haven’t seen on any Synology device is the three different options for storage types - rotating media, SATA SSD, and NVME SSD, and the ability to specify different purposes for each of those storage pools.
well to me seems a quite wastet of resources.
@@g.s.3389 - there is that risk, yes. But I think it makes a lot of sense. You could use them as separate pools, for example the NVME pair could be set up in RAID-1 mirroring for those cases where you need maximum speed and reliability, and the SATA pair could be used as write-back caching for the 3.5” hard drive pool.
If you can’t think of enough ways to use the different classes of drives, then yes - this might be a bit of a waste for you. But I can think of plenty of uses for the different classes of drives.
@@shubinternet that's not the point, you do not get all your eggs in a basket. at least that's not professionals do. I tell you my story, I just save on my nas family videos and photos, I had only 1 and in raid 1 (synology), but when the internal power supply broke, I was close to lose everything, I found on ebay the replacement and immediately after I bought a second, cheaper nas so to have a second backup.
@@g.s.3389 - I was a technical reviewer for the books “Backup and Recovery”, as well as “Using SANs and NAS”, both from the late 90s. I am well acquainted with the 3-2-1 strategy of doing backups (have at least three backups for your data, two on-site and one remote).
If you don’t have additional backups of your data, then you really only have yourself to blame. And I confess, that even after all this time, I do fall into this trap myself.
@@shubinternet i also think this setup is perfect for editing files, the SSD caching should only be attached to the HDD, while the NVMe SSD’s is where to store your current editing projects on. I would use the NVMe SSD in raid 0 for more useable space.
Of course there needs to be separate backup’s, i would backup for sure but from an editing viewpoint this setup is really nice. I don’t see a downside except that its extremely expensive.
Thank you for sharing!
No problem Alexei, hope you found it useful :)
Awesome video. Exactly what I needed to know. Unfortunately, everything is sold out.
Thank you for this amazing video. I was looking this for long time. I am going to build my NAS coming month when I will get my Mac Studio Computer I need the solid NAS for video Editing.
Do you have any suggestions today's date? anything new arrive? are you happy with your NAS System?
Glad you’ve found the video useful! I’m still incredibly happy with my NAS setup so far! It handles whatever I throw at it! My advice would definitely be to look for a NAS that has either a 10GBE connection or Thunderbolt included, you still need those fast data speeds for video editing :]
Greatly done and many tips help demistify things a bit.
Quick questions: Why didn't you opt for the nvme drives for ssd caching? Aren't these the ones that are supposed to be the fastest drives in order to avoid bottlenecks? Active project could possibly be on your macbook pro drive too?
And after a considerable amount of time, from your experience is this NAS still a good buy today, or is the low end (by today's standards) processor a limiting factor that could create bottlenecks for 4K editing?
Thanks a lot for your kind replies. I 'm considering this NAS too, since the QNAP TVS-h874X is significantly pricier.
Great video, Alex! I'm wondering if there's any way to grant access to the media for clients to download?
After the video thought it to be neat to have in one single unit your work and also a catalog with folders for each client. Is that possible whit this unit? Any idea on how to achieve this?
I have a very similar setup. TS-H9743AX with 32 GB and SSD caching. But I am also using the QSW-M408-4C QNAP 10G switch for my 10G network. Also, I'm using RAID 1 on two 10G Red drives, to allow me to expand storage as larger capacity drives become available down the line. I added this setup to my TVS-463 that I was using before. I added the 10G upgrade to the 463. I've had good performance, but not without problems. First, the boot speed on the TS-H9743AX is slow. Also, unlike the 463, there is no HDMI interface. Also, I have worked with both Premiere and Final Cut, and your mounts have to be SMB/CIFS for Final Cut Pro. It sometimes drops this (not sure why honestly), but this is never a problem in Premiere. And yes, I have used Resolve. However, the early "growth" reliability problems on early versions, made me write them off. I understand the that "database corruption" problems have long since been resolved.
Hi Camelio, I see you have experience use the TS-H9743AX. Would you still recommend it to someone like me who is looking to upgrade to a NAS?
Great video and all the information!! thank you! One question, did you need something else to connect the QNA-T310G1T "The Multi-Gig NBase-T" or it goes strait to the computer? Thank you
I actually came across this video because of looking at my own setup. I like to make some compositions of my travels. Mostly video's of hikes or other explorations. So it mostly get big files.
After a trip or vacation I always upload everything to my laptop and NAS. My PC to work with the files for editing (should give the fastest/safest responses, and least rendering time). And my NAS for having it backed up (mostly also make another backup on an external HDD to keep it extra safe).
But after finishing editing I mostly remove it from my laptop to preserve space (and to work on other video's or projects). And also use my laptop not only for video editing, so other apps also need it's space.
I had to re-edit a few video's lately, and I first was thinking about transfering the needed dirs to my laptop again before starting re-editing. But removing files to copy new ones just to re-edit some premade projects is quite a hustle. especially because it are already finished projects and I only need to re-render/export again after a few little modifications.
So I actually just started to work straight from my NAS (wired), since the files are already locally stored there. It just seems to work fine, and maybe the render times are a bit longer instead of working directly with the files from my laptop. But I don't seem to see noteworthy problems (also only using 1080p files wit a bitrate of 25K, so it's not a massive dataload neither).
But now I was reading the manual of my editing software again, and they strongly recommend not to work from network drives (NAS). But I actually don't seem to notice quality problems, drastic speed drops, errors etc. in the exported/rendered projects/video's.
So I went searching Google "why". To find out why they strongly recommend not to use NAS servers etc. Can't find much about it though. And besides transfers speeds or connection drops I could not think about much other possible problems. Especially not since I'm also pre-rendering all the clips because of my system specs. So everything should be rendered locally to my laptop before playback or export.
But good to see that editing/ working from network drives/ NAS is more common.
Please take into consideration that you have no Backup with this setup at all! A RAID-System is not meant to be a backup, it is a failover solution if one harddisk fails. To protect your important data, you still need a second device, ideally physicaly separated from your nas, for example in another building. There are many scenarios where your data is still lost if you have no second backup device. Think about all the malware and trojans like emotet which will encrypt your data and many other scenarios where your data is gone.
In essence it is a back- up, but is not a disaster recovery plan. I work in healthcare and was around when it was a thing. Most of what I store is interesting but not irreplaceable. That stuff I back up to a 2T thumb-drive. MyCloud has a usb jack on the back made for copying files from the raid-drives. I suppose a person could pop one of the raid drives and put a new drive in. It will auto-populate, keep the other drive somewhere else, rotate them every now and then.
@@rickgividen4318 oh man, that's an absolute garbage.
Some RAIDS are redundant, it just depends on which RAID level you choose. There is a RAID level that mirrors and also one that provides a parity function that allows for rebuilding the dead drive by removal and inserting a new one. But you do still need a 1 or 2 backups for failsafe.
@@pxlmvr7redundant is not backup.
If you get hit with ransomware you will just have 2 copies of your corrupted data.
And power company frying your connection by transferring service to a new
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Hi Alex, amazing video! I work with Komodo footage and your workflow looks amazing! There are also a 932px model that looks like very similar but cheap. Why you didn't choose this model? Thanks!
@Alex Pettitt, As mentioned in other comments, get yourself a proper backup for the NAS before you (potentially) lose everything. I had a QNAP NAS and the backplate (for the drive ports) started playing up at about 2 years old. It would “eject” drives from the NAS, initially the third drive would go, then the 4th, 5th and 6th shortly afterwards. It worked intermittently, I swapped drives and ran disk checks on them too. Haven’t used it for a while and looking to build my own. The contents of my NAS are currently on external drives which were direct backups, and also in the cloud.
Yep, I have now implemented a 10tb backup drive to backup my most precious files.... just incase. Shame to hear about the issues you've had.... mine has been rock solid so far :)
@@AlexPettitt Mine was great when it wasn't ejecting drives. It was going to cost north of £200 to get the backplate replaced by QNAP! There is a possible fix posted on a forum where a soldering iron is required but I haven't looked into it properly, mainly because I've got limited experience with that type of thing.
I would also look into cloud backups of your data too, some of the archival cloud servicess are very affordable for long term storage of large data.
Edit - I was in two minds about building my own originally, and in hindsight, it would have been the better option. At the moment I'm looking for the right kit for a self build.
@@stuart_gill Cloud services have a huge list of negatives, some of which Alex already covered in the video. Better to just buy extra hard drives and keep them off site or in a fireproof container.
Any idea if using FCP rather than Resolve would affect this configuration for live editing off a NAS? I’m very impressed with your setup and your skill explaining it. Well done and thank you for sharing it.
Results should be exactly the same with Final Cut and Adobe Premiere :) Thanks so much for the compliment about the video… I do always try and make it as informative but understandable as possible :)
Great video alex, i just have one doubt, for the ssd's and the nvme's disk that you use for SSD caching, the qnap OS and to edit, can you use more storage than what you bought?? like for the ssd's you have 500gb's and for the nvme's you have 960's gb's, is that because they have a limit in storage or could you use drives with even more storage for those??? cause I just know that the main hard drives are the ones that have an storage limit in all the nas' but I'm not sure about the ssd's and the nvme's
This video was exactly what I was looking for. It answered all my questions about a NAS setup. I figured, all I had to do was to use the exact same setup and be done with it. However, I then "remembered" that I have a Dell PowerEdge T620 server "sitting around", so why not "convert" that into a NAS!? I then thought about it a little bit and realized, "Wait a minute, my T620 is already setup and running great. Why not just share a drive (make it a network drive) and be done!? Any ideas??? Thanks.
Great video
Thank you for this very useful video!!
I wanted to know if this setup can be used as a central video storage “server” where a global video team working from different parts of the globe can access the files?
I don’t know if you covered already this in another video so asking anyways 😊
Thanks!
Thanks. Looks very interesting and confusing. 😀
Pretty sweet. Made me think about PCIe system rather than SATA. Any thoughts about that yould like to share?
Awesome. Do you have an updated version of this review workflow?
Love this video but man, the $ u spent wow if I only had that much I would 💯 do this. Awesome great video
Alex, you are amazing! Every one of your videos is clear, concise, wise, and beautifully produced. My skill with the ATEM Mini Pro would be nowhere without your talents. Yesterday, the USB C (webcam/SSD) output port on my unit stopped working. All cables, firmware, PC drivers, and software (including Zoom) is up-to-date, but I get no light when I plug in an SSD and Zoom no longer recognizes the ATEM as a webcam. Any thoughts on a solution? Before I set up NAS, I've got to fix my ATEM. Thank you for any help you can offer, and keep up the great work!
First try a different cable and a different port on your computer.
@@mondotv4216 Thanks for your reply. Tried that as a first step, to no avail. Finally determined that the USB C port on the ATEM was defective and had to replace it.
@@christhurber747 The bigger the problem usually the simpler the solutions. Bad port on switcher makes sense!
Great Video. Could you please advise on a scenario where I have one NAS setup and around 6 MacBook Pro editors accessing same files over a 10g network.
Example: One large sporting event client provided us around 40TB of footages from their past 20 years of events and using these footages we will have to create several content for current event. In this scenario, 6 editors are editing different video content but using same source files over NAS,. Also, can I also enable my international collaborators (broadcasters mainly) to access my NAS drive to send and receive files from/to NAS at the same time. What are the chances of latency, delay, jittering of footage over timeline?
Alex - Great video! Are you using a newer MBP? I can not find a driver to support Xfer speeds faster than 1GB for most of the Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapters. Does the QNAP adapter have a functioning driver for the M1? Any suggestions? Thanks
Excellent video and I understood everything to the point. I have a scenario if you can help me. I have a small studio with 5 iMac (old + new) and my Macbook Pro M1. We now use traditional hard disk via usb 3.0. I want to totally go NAS route like you. How do I connect my older iMac to get good speed? 1Gig networking is fine here but we do multiple machine editing. So is there any way to connect all and get good results?
Kind of like a MyCloud Home. We have a 6T Raid drive that is accessible remotely and all my families phones and laptops automatically back up to it, as well as Dropbox and social media.
WD has had some issues which may not have been too well know at the time of your posting this video. Still while I was doing research for my synology NAS 3 years ago I found that Seagate HDs were the better choice even back then. You may want to keep that in mind when it comes time to replace drives in your QNAP.
Great video! I will follow in your footsteps with nearly the exact same config you have.
What do you think about the Apple-branded Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter? The one you have from QNAP is no longer available.
Which 6 bay brand do you recemond
Somes peoples say raid 6 more safe if 2 drive failure
Thanks a lot for sharing with us
This backup nas
Can we get a speed test with and without SSD cache? I’ve been considering SSD caching for video editing but all the research I did said it’s not worth it for video editing or even photo editing - it’s more suitable for database and other uses that require many small files.
u r the best!!!!!!!
It's interesting that you nailed my comment, right in the lede: I just noticed, like, *today*, in QNAP's marketing that *they do not quote the size of the parity drive* in their sizing:
That unit you have there, with 5 12TB drives?
They'd call that a "48TB NAS".
I think that's admirable, myself.
Except even that is incorrect as a 12TB drive doesn't have 12TB of space on it. Take another roughly 10% off the 48TB and you get a more accurate storage size.
Alex, thank you for sharing your experience with your NAS setup for video editing. So well done!!! I have few questions though. 1. You had to use a QNAP 10gb adapter to connect your MBP. Doesn't your MBP have 10GB built in, not understanding why you needed the adapter. 2. Are you concerned at all about using a QNAP branded NAS vs Synology given the problems with ransomeware problems with QNAP. Perhaps you dont have any external access to your NAS via the internet? Thanks again for this video, so much good information!!!
The macbook does not have a rj45 port at all. To use this setup you would require a hub or adapter with 10G rj45 port that connects to the Nas on one end and the usb-c on the mac on the other end. Also, I get the sense that you have overlooked that the speed of transfer is depedent on the storage, in this case the NAS. The transfer out is 10G but can be scaled to 1G, 2.5G, 10G depending on the configuration of the adapter, hub or switcher.
Really helpful video. Thanks Alex. I have one question. Can you attach NAS to the USB outlet on Atem Mini Extreme ISO and then access those files over the network? At the moment I'm recording video from Atem Mini to Sandisk Extremes bu then havng to unplug from Atem Mini and into computer USB to edit. A lot of too-ing and fro-ing...
Alex, is it possible to do a review on Terramster NAS in the future?
So freaking helpful
Really glad you found it helpful :)
Yes you explain things very very well. The best Qnas explanation I have watched in years. Thank you@@AlexPettitt
That’s awesome. Looks like this setup would run around $4600 in the US as of 2/14/22 based off your affiliate links. Now just have to convince my partner that it’s a good investment
Thanks for the video. Is it possible to do Multi-User editing on this one in Avid Media Composer?
hey, I used this video as a guide for my NAS setup, thank you SO much for making this. I only have 2 12TB HDs and one 1TB sata III, am still waiting on the nvme drives, but when I ran the disk speed of the nas using Blackmagic disk speed test, it is only reaching up to 35mbps when plugged into ethernet and 1mgps when I try to access it remotely. I have opened a ticket with QNAP but am wondering if I am missing something or if you have any tips? My network is 1gbps and am able to confirm those speeds with my MacBook Pro.
Can’t you use the type c 10gb connection to connect it to your MacBook Pro? What speeds you are getting if you connect it directly?
Thanks
Thanks you, Alex. Excellent video. (As always!) Do you know of any M1 issues with your NAS? I have been working off of Caldigit Raid 5 drives for years but when I switched to a new iMac M1 machines, I'm unable to use the drives. I assume it's because these are "software" Raids and there are issues with the cache set up. I've been looking for a replacement Raid 5 setup but yours it the first I've seen. Your setup looks like it might be the perfect solution for me if it works with the M1.
Hi Steef, thanks strange about the M1 issues you’ve been seeing. I haven’t heard of any issues with M1 and QNAP… you could pop an email with support to double check. I don’t have an M1 Mac yet, so can’t test this out. But I have no reason to believe it wouldn’t work perfectly fine :) Alex
A Nas is a Nas, it will work from an M1 or anything else as long as the supported protocols are present (SMB, NFS...). Pretty sure the Caldigit Raid 5 you are referring to is a DAS, thus requiring drivers, so it is a different can of worms.