The Illusion of SOUL in the Most DANGEROUS Book in the World
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- What is our true nature, and how does it exist in the entire universe? The most dangerous book to the existence of your ego attempts to answer these questions by revealing the essence of your soul and its illusory nature. In this episode of The Sacred Word, I will explain an important verse from the Avadhuta Gita, a text one is ready to assimilate after enlightenment. The Avadhuta Gita is for those who want to absorb themselves in the presence of the Ultimate Reality after awakening.
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Please help me with some basic understanding here. Brahman is everywhere (omnipresent). Atman is omnipresent. When something is omnipresent, it is everything and everywhere. How come we have two different names for the one? If the Brahman is beyond the mind (and also material and energy), how come you are giving so many attributes to it using your mind that is filled with many things (memories, preconditioning etc.) you have heard about Brahman over the internet? According to the Vedanta experts, one should not even say anything about it (because it is beyond the mind). Total silence is what they prefer.
@@texastexas4541 you are confusing Vedanta with new age spirituality and neo-advaita. In proper Vedanta you need to understand the Brahmavidya, the knowledge of Brahman and that is taught by Vedanta. If you go to the Vedanta Society and learn, you will learn the Brahmavidya because you need a conceptual framework to understand the deeper spiritual knowledge. That is what Jason teaches and he was taught by the Vedanta Society. So the so-called experts you mention aren't Vedantists. I would recommend you watch Swami Sarvapriyananda and other Swamis so you can humble your incorrect opinion. Another thing to watch out for which I sensed in your comment is the element of competition. That is a giveaway in a new age person. I am just saying that to you out of kindness so you become aware of that.
It is funny how many people in the comments don't understand what Jason is saying and get triggered by the thumbnail. He is not saying the soul doesn't exist per se, but when you abide in the Atman the Jiva disappears and essentially is not who you truly are. If it is differentiated then it is not one with Brahman. Atman is Brahman. This is pure Advaita Vedanta. Those who don't understand should listen a bit more carefully rather than get triggered. Study the great knowledge so you can learn more and then understand the highest teachings Jason is giving us for free. I wish you all well in coming to that ultimate understanding.
PhD lessons for school students. That's the problem! Teachings from the Avadhuta Gita and the Ashtavakra Gita are only meant for advanced spiritual students who have purified their minds through years of spiritual discipline and are engaged in meditation. These advanced teachings are not meant to be discussed as a video topic for the general public or for the immature students or beginners on this path. It will only confuse them and spoil their faith in spiritual life entirely! Those who have not yet tasted the 'inner bliss' in meditation should not read these books.
Yeah what can we expect?
The whole world believed the world was flat and when people got to exploring that assumption, some were literally executed.
Its when you give high level knowledge to people who are not ready to question things in the first place, or not have their assumptions shattered that are the first to get triggered.
Just look at car marketing these days, its all about how fast does this go from 0 to 60, how you'll have a luxurious experience etc etc
Why would someone take the energy to go question what a car is, drive many of them and reach conclusions when they can believe other people or the marketing?
@@sujithp5867you don’t need to purify your mind for years. You are purifying an illusion lol. All spiritual practice is futile. Since “ you “ don’t exist! Then there is “no choice”. As long as you think you are mind and ego you are going to believe that purifying your “mind” (illusion) will take you somewhere
I am very happy to hear that you understand everything.
@@mariogee8840 I don’t understand anything
Certainly, the explanation provided is comprehensive and well-articulated. 🕉🙏🏽
This resonates completely with me and I practice Nichiren Buddhism! Thank you for posting
Great video, Jason. Appreciate your perspective!
Thank you, Jason! Pure spiritual fire 🔥
Sending you gratitude and smiles Jason. Keep up the good work👍🙏🕉
The Avadhuta Gita is often considered "dangerous" not in a literal sense, but because it challenges the ego and conventional perceptions of identity. It is a profound spiritual text that delves into non-dualism, emphasizing the dissolution of the ego and the realization of one's true self beyond material and societal constructs. This can be unsettling for those who are deeply attached to their egoic identities, as it encourages a radical shift in understanding one's existence and purpose. The text is revered for its depth in Advaita Vedanta philosophy, but its teachings can be intense and transformative, which might be why some consider it "dangerous" for those unprepared for such a profound spiritual journey. May you continue to unravel the peace within.
Avadhuta Gita explains not understandable
Good timing, sir. Just as my daily sitting is opening my eye to this subtle awareness of an all-pervading consciousness, the analytical mind is searching for words to describe it. Words are like that ferry to the other shore. Clear, direct words are like a speedy boat.
Jason, your passion for your subject is real and shines through every syllable of that short clip. I fully understand that passion because the self discovery of attman is something I sometimes want to scream aloud to wake up the world before it’s too late. If the majority of people in this world don’t soon acknowledge the fallacies contained in their different religious books, then what started out as conflicts between Iron Age desert tribes will soon see us in a very real nuclear Armageddon.
Nice discernment of atma/spirit and jivatman/soul/dual memory track. As long as conditioning from memories energies, remain, soul reincarnates. Once most of the souls energies of memory are neutralized, liberation is said to result….atma realized.
Shanti
Swami P
Pranaam, Jason ji! You are one of my gurus, and I am highly indebted to you.
Great explanation on the atman, much appreciated on your insights to these teachings 🙏🙏
श्रीगुरुदत्तात्रेयार्पणमस्तु 🙏🙏
|| Shree Gurudev Datta ||
Really appreciate your contribution. This post is awesome: not to build your ego :) Bit of a paradox there perhaps. 🎆
This video doesn't exist, your phone doesn't exist, nothing exists, except know-alls, know-alls exist.
soul, in the deep meaning is "the desire to possess". everyone have soul, the more you wish to possess, the more intense your soul will be. enlightened people tend to have subtle souls, the moment they go their souls perished.
we shared the same root, however we could never go back. once your soul perished, there is no "you".
enrich your jiva, so that your divine spirit could grow.
That's the answer you're seeking, atman is divine spirit.
dao and brahman, the same thing, the ultimate truth. what is this ultimate truth?
answer, it's the laws of nature.
following the dao, you're aligning yourself with the laws of nature. you'll be less suffer the more you aligned.
meditation allowed you to visit the absolute peace, without enrichment it won't grow.
is this too hard? probably too hard.
I can try to write a book with thousands of pages but still wouldn't be able to explain exactly what are they. it's something you gotta experience yourself.
Truth.
Nameste Jason, thank you 🙏🏾
The Tathagata expounded on his Dharma regarding the soul’s illusionary nature.
It sure is a sympathetic idea to bring all eastern traditions into a single strata with an identical ultimate nature as the goal by stating that all (perceived) differences comes down to differences in language only. But is it really that simple? Unless we are actually realised beings continuously resting in that true and absolute nature, do we really know these things correctly? Do we really understand the deepest knowledge of every one of these traditions to be able to determine that the only difference between them is due to linguistics? Can we with certainty say that all traditions not only aim at the same ultimate state but also be confident in that they all have the skilful means needed to lead the practitioner to that final state as well? Are we really that accomplished in all of these traditions to be sure of that?
Thank You, Jason!
I'm not the water, I'm not the vessel, I'm not the flow. When I'm boiled, I'm not the pot, I'm not the steam, I'm not the heat. When I evaporate, I'm not the air, I'm not the water, I'm not the I'm.
@@PsychoChuckThe ego creates by it's magic of imagination the illusion of the soul, even an afterlife, where it lives on. It's meaningless, just a projection of our brain beyond the event horizon of it's capabilities. No soul without a brain or body. It doesn't matter. What matters is where we are now. And now... forget the 'we', the 'I'... Just be... now. And even that being will end one instant. Life's just a pilgrimage: from a forgotten place to no one knows. All that is, is now. Enjoy your afterlife! 😊
Bro has lost his damn mind
@@doncollion Sounds to me like they gained themselves.
I like the last statement: "I am ≠ I am." So "I am" is NOT the fundamental nature of reality. No statement can reveal the fundamental nature of reality or oneself. Because whatever concepts are posited are mere abstractions which do not exist in reality. There is no self, no absolute, no consciousness, no Atman, no Brahman, no, nothing.
@@chrispmarits funny, the questions of, does anything actually exist vs. Does anything have inherent meaning, seem so close to holding hands most days. You should look into Retrocasualty. Fiddle with That Something that feels different than the internal, then turn around and leave it better than you found it. As far as we know, We're the only creatures that dream about the possibilities of the game, While we measure the board and decide our rules, everything else just plays along.
Thanks for the video. "This/that" is Atman/Brahman.
Hail lord dattatrey
Nice discourse on the theoretical, literal and metaphorical nature of reality and conciousness.❤🙏
Jason, what's your thoughts on re occurring numbers? I see numbers daily, 1111, 1212, 2112, 1221, 3.33, 4.44 etc etc.
What is the meaning of this? Many spiritually awake people I speak to say they see them too 🙏
Thats from your thinking ego mind ,it has no significance
@@pranavsarnaik7831 how do ypu know that? I'd say that's only an opinion, which comes from ego right?
@@truthsearcherthese patterns of numbers are what YOU are observing and YOU think thats a special something happening to you. Once your ego mind tells you patterns of numbers have special meaning , you observe it everywhere. Now, if they are truly significant then you don’t have to ask someone else what does it mean. You would be able to make a connection yourself. Someone else have no connection to it. Anything in life becomes special and magical if our ego sets out to make it so. For others, they mean nothing.
@@truthsearcherwhat we seek we find... I too see numbers
I've searched meaning of the numbers on Internet... Found the meaning that resonates with me in the bible meaning in strongs concordance...
We ask for signs then ignore them as something weird... Some cultures communicate in numbers and are now intigrated into their later alphabet
Not everything written years ago is truth... Lying and ego aren't a new invention...
Meditation and finding yourself is the place you'll find the answers you seek...
Happy hunting
@@vanianup I don't think it's just this at all, though this is certainly the case some of the time. I think a lot of the synchronicities in life are actually an indication that the topic of this video is in fact accurate: everything is connected, all is one. When you are stepping away from ego, and into spiritual growth, these sorts of phenomenon start happening with increasing frequency, even if you are not looking for them. The key is to not attach some kind of egotistical 'I'm special' notion to them and see them as what they are: ripples in the pond of all that is that you are.
my upcomming book "MAYAJAAL-illusion beyond vision" will break the walls of everyones undurstanding of atma
Let me attempt to explicate some problems here from a modernist spiritual perspective. In games there are always associated rewards when one crosses any threshold within the game. And similar to golf one has to be able to demonstrate proficiency within the public sphere. It's doesn't work to claim one can shoot 4 consecutive rounds of 59. These words are meaningless without the public demonstration. Unfortunately, today, in contradiction to the supernatural claims within these religious/spiritual books, said supernaturalism is non-existent especially within the public domain. Which leaves us solely with phenomenology. . But this too does not come with any objective or empirical associated rewards like one sees in almost every type of game. EXP>. Say one attains mastery over the first Jhana. What would make this coherent in the same manner as any game is if the mastery came with an objective empirical correlate like say LEVITATION. So everyone who masters the first Jhana can display empirical levels of levitation. But this isn't the case, is it...Everything is solely phenomenological. And it's here that every kind of scam, Ponzi, false truth, deceit, can and does infiltrate all spiritual paths and claims. Not to mention the likeliness of every type of gaslighting especially within cultures that lean towards theocracy as a societal structure.
I've just blogged on The Anurag Sagar and it has something to say about the nature of this existence that does not jive with the metaphysics presented in this video...
There is too much guess work and plenty of fantasy going on here. Every culture has come up something they call beyond the mind. It is easy to get trapped in this for a while. At some point, after wasting much time, this is all purely a mental game to cope with the problems in this world.
That would make the Buddha's teachings the most dangerous teachings in the world (for illusory selves)
Anatman is used by the Buddha in order to differentiate what at the time was the prevailing concept of an eternal, unchanging atman in each and everyone of us. It has to be understood in its historical context. Translating it as non-self is confusing, this time in the modern context where Jung refers to a true Self (capitalized).
Books such as the Avadhuta Gita and the Ashtavakra Gita are meant only for those advanced spiritual students who have purified their minds through years of spiritual discipline and are engaged in meditation. To such committed students alone would these books show light and be a true guide. To the unprepared, immature students, the subtle thoughts contained in these books can be explosively dangerous and result in erasing their faith entirely from the higher reality. It is in this sense that these books are considered dangerous. It is not meant to be discussed as a video topic for the general public or for beginners on this path. It will only confuse them and spoil them completely!
What if consciousness = life (that non physical innate will to live) = soul. This would make sense with non-duality. This would also make sense with oneness of the universe (life). Our emerging awareness of consciousness that is separate from the primeval desire to eat survive and procreate brings us closer to that awareness dimension of life. A more comprehensive and dimensional awareness of life.
AI. We ain’t real bro
अवधूत चिंतन श्री गुरुदेव दत्त 🪔❄️🙏🏼
Hugely interesting expression of a very complex subject. We tend to put things into compartments, but in reality, there are no rigid boundaries. The universe started from nothing and is infinite at the same time!
This now encroaches on quantum theories with different names for the same thing. Buddhism is an expression of what was expressed earlier in elite Sanskrit, while Buddhism brought this extract in the more readily spoken language, Pali.
English teanslation loses the nuances with its limitation of words..
The joyrney is that search forbthat force within which is part of the whole. A bit like the drop on the ocean searching for the ocean when they are one and the same!
If I want to learn Taoism which video of yours or book you can recommend with an idea that I absolutely know nothing about Taoism
The Tao of Pooh is a good book. Also, his video The Art of Effortless Living (Taoist Documentary).
Nice use of language, Jason.
Most encouraging.
Aham Brahamasi (I am the soul).
So are we all going to lose our sense of individuality? What's the point of that?
❤
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
How to experience that Ultimate Reality.
I always thought of the atman as the soul or consciousness. It was the same thing to me
From what you narrated , what is the difference between Atman and Brahman ?
Same same
@@indicphilosopher8772 why are they identified seperate / exclusive ?
@@satishHalemanethey don’t, atman basically refer Jivatma or individual soul where Brahman is universal. Both same but depend fro, where u start your investigation. From individual prespective or universal prespective
@@shuvampal7290
Atman is not jeeva or jeevatma.. 😂 What are you talking about
@@shuvampal7290
Atman is the light of lights.. Ie pure consciousness..
Jeeva or jeevatma is individual..
Ayam Atma brahma is from mandukya upanishad, these are two words for the same thing
The soul is everywhere thus it is nowhere,
Need to review this
No. Jeeva is life force. Foreigners don’t understand that there are many different languages in India and therefore many different words are used for the same thing… jeeva is another word for “life” in terms of “having life” like “life force”. Eg: “His jeeva is gone…” means life has left his body… prana is breath jeeva is life. Atma is soul this is same for everyone… atman is the self a soul that carries experience from many different life times so it’s different for everybody and no two atmans can ever be the same - cause you know people are unique no two experiences can ever be the same etc etc… once the atman is gone only atma is left for everybody… kind of like phones… no two phones can ever have the same data… but if the data is wiped out then just the default software is left… somewhat like that… our mission is to go back to default then erase that as well so that it can never be copied into another device ever! 🙏🏼
For some reason, from watching your other videos I thought that the atman *was* your soul that extends from the godhead and it was "identical to brahman" because it was a part of the same kaleidoscopic patterning of consciousness.. I still don't get it
Consciousness exists
But the soul does exists!
God told me that all is one...
I donnot understand these things. Is there a playlist of videos in order to watch to understand the foundations of the true nature of reality?
@@M4CB Adyashanti is a good teacher who actually well embodies the truth and speaks as well as he can. It's much helpful to listen to a realized teacher than read something.
@@RippleDrop. Adyashanti a realized teacher? So he is above Dattareya and the Avadhuta Gita? You seem jealous of Jason and his ability as a teacher because it threatens your view. Why else would you comment on every video in a envious way? If you were spiritually mature, you would not disrespect the scriptures and teachers who have given their life to the teachings. Why not go back to watching new age stuff instead of being here?
@@spiritworld6655 There is no view. There's only one truth which reveals it to be true if you see it.
@@spiritworld6655 I for truth for the ones who feel drawn to it. Spiritual seekers being misled by people who have not realized what they teach, isn't helpful as there's no way you can't catch the essence, if you do not truly see the place the scripture talks of. Maybe one day you will see what I mean. The Veda even says, only those who have attained realizations should teach.
@@spiritworld6655 The scripture is written by self-realized people and all meet the same truth.
Something which helped me: whenever you do any action, it could be as simple as moving a book from one chair to another, rather than imagining the result of that action, see yourself as that action manifesting itself...over time, you'll realise you're a building block of this reality too
Is Jiva same as Jivatman?
I'd argue that the Mahayana Buddhist concept of the Buddha-nature is the pure consciousness beyond the ego and self. The perceiver of each new experience, the connecting grain between all lives. The self goes, the body goes, the brain goes, all of that is impermanent. The pure Buddha consciousness remains.
But your ego is still speaking. You argue for a particular group. Buddhism is practice not a religion of argument.
The thing is, this is just a thought. A belief. It certainly is not verifiable. And perhaps the impossibility to verify is the freedom longed for.
There is a truth. One truth. There are words that can point us in a proper direction. But the words are not the truth. They are just a sometimes skillful arrangement of characters to describe something. Descriptions of honey can be eloquent, artful and can elicit desire and longing, but the yes of neurons and cells receiving honey defies words like Pi defies numbers! Mahayana, Christian, Muslim, Hindu. Words point well. Words come from the mind. That monkey mind. The one that is a great servant but terrible master. There is a truth...
@@dbanks1277 Okay, I'll bite, what is your truth?
All is Brahman.
Are you sure about that? Or you read that somewhere
The map of india is shown wrong
The most dangerous person to your ego is UG Krishnamurti
If the soul does not exist why the dead body does not feel pain ?
What ? Dead body is dead because heart has stopped working and because heart has stopped working brain has stopped working so dead bodies cannot feel pain cause they are dead bodies
Because the brain isn't functioning anymore
What’s Atman?
Nothing, what’s Atwith you?
The soul is an illusion
can u feel stuff ..thast your soul ... love and talk to animals dont eat them
the only thing that is not an illusion is the Supreme Self..🙂 Its Ajata..
Is the capitalized DANGEROUS a new marketing strategy?
Why are there so many extremely dangerous books in Asia? 🤷🏻♂️
It's really good to know. Only when you know, when you're 100% sure than you know, you may discover that in fact you don't know shit. And that is very refreshing😘
This guy is the closest to atman in saying atman is not soul
Not clear that consciousness can be equated with energy.
Correct. It is not energy at all. It is neither energy nor matter according to the Vedanta.
soul doesn't exist in the way we think , that what budha said.
Your basically a Hindu now❤🎉
This is called mayavadi philosophy or impersonalism and has been at odds with Vaishnavism/montheistic religion since time immemorial. However, the greater truth is Vaishnavism which explains beyond brahman conception is the para brahman or Supreme Being KRSNA! the brahman being the light rays emanating from Lord Krsna's body. Brahman is the atmosphere of the spiritual world and is blissful but not fully satisfying to the soul. So ultimately yogis who achieve nirvana/brahman merging must return to the material world. This is called the up/down syndrome, where they desire liberation from suffering and karma and then fall back into desire, mukti bhukti. The soul cannot be satisfied until it is again united with the Supreme soul Krsna in love, at that time the souls transcend mukti/bhutki cycle, and pirces through the blinding brahman effulgence and is reunited with Krsna. Krsna then solemnly swears the realized soul, now one in love and will, will never again return to this miserable world of birth and death. Read Bhagavad Gita PEACE OUT BROTHERS!
Just one point to express , is Buddhism wrong or is that your opinion?☮️🕉️
Everybody is wrong and everybody is right. This is all pure metaphysics. A mental game.
@@texastexas4541 u r right probably, there is no ultimate truth. There is only the truth that u beleive in. That's the magic of the mind
@@vamsidocs5137 "There is only the truth that u believe in. " TRUTH, especially ULTIMATE TRUTH!!!" What do these phrases mean? Truth of what? Of course, the ultimate TRUTH is beyond the mind and intellect, right sir? If it is beyond the mind and intellect, you should not use your mind and intellect to explain anything that is beyond the mind and intellect.......that would be DISHONESTY of the highest kind.. That is like a blind man saying he VISUALLY sees what others cannot see with their EYES.
@@texastexas4541 the property of the mind is it reveals the world to u according to ur beleifs and attention ( unfortunately most of the beliefs we have is genetic like aging, violence etc)
@@vamsidocs5137 That is what it seems like.
It doesn't exist it's not real it's only the source and the now
All that explains does not explain. All that questions gets no real answer, and all who answer never resolve a thing. All that knows only can know the superficial.
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Everything is upside down in Kali Yuga. People misunderstand spiritual concepts or rather lack them completely, and people who don't have first hand experience teach it, and students can't know as they don't know either. As it says about Kali Yuga religion is mere superstition and fantasies.
Swami Vivekananda said (in Swami Saradananda, Ramakrishna and His Divine Play): “In trying to practice religion, 80% of people turn cheats and about 15% go crazy. Only the remaining 5% attain the direct spiritual realization of the infinite truth and are blessed.”
@@kenjones102 people that were crazy also attained infinite truth, but they couldn't comprehend such profound concepts. everyone are blessed by default, whether they could utilize them or not is their own problem.
@@kenjones102 Out of those 5%, they come here on TH-cam and spread more misconceptions about it.
@@texastexas4541 they don't understand themselves how they can teach about truth...because people don't know truth they acts like pigs everything you throw into them they will eat even it's shit...
It's not about kali yuga. Didn't the Buddha wander from village to village to teach the dharma during most of his life? (he lived around ~80 years).
There must be a soul, otherwise there is no reincarnation.
There is no reincarnation.
@@texastexas4541 There definitely is.
@@DavidOm... oh, ok.
If Atman is Brahman why do we have 2 words then, why don't we only have Brahman?
Well that is analytical thinking, which might not be useful in inner world , perhaps to make the common man understand that the awarness he experiences is the awareness of whole world, but better would be to drop the analytical mind and meditate
Best way to describe this would be moon reflected in bowls of water , that moon which is reflected in all the vessels is the atman and moon itself is brahman, but all in all atman is the same moon
@@khonyeleaglefergumedov9175 I agree. I am trying to understand concepts so I can have some idea what am I searching for.
@@khonyeleaglefergumedov9175 Is evey Atman the same or there are differences between Atman of different ppl?
Lord Buddha says all this is a pile of horse manure. I believe Lord Buddha.
Aat maa, not Aatman. The n is silent. Demoted.
All just words..words..and more words lol
fafo forever man
lol
Or like Clint Eastwood said...Opinions are like......nevermind...