Nice install. It's good to have a buddy who can weld and fabricate. He clearly understands the engineering required to make the install as strong as possible. Most of us would struggle to find someone with those skills willing to help. Thanks for sharing .
When bolting through box tubing drill for sleeves and weld in to prevent tubing from crushing. For an example Jeep sleeve the frame for steering gear through bolts. Other than that good video.
I changed my trailing arm suspension on my Moby to 3500 lb Timbren. A lot of work but I've had no problems since. I built a custom gusset like you did for the extra support and to keep the square frame frame compressing. I also used the cross member for further strength. I tightened all bolts after the first extreme use. Great product.
My last travel trailer was a single axle unit that came from the factory with a misaligned and possibly bent axle. You’ll know pretty fast if the alignment is good as it’ll burn up the tires if it’s not....but I’m sure you guys are spot on...
I just finished building my teardrop camper and I built the trailer to mount it on. I also used 1200 pound Timbren but my camper only weighs 250 pounds and the trailer frame weighs 250 pounds, so 500 pound total dry weight on a 1200 pound suspension. I also put angle stiffeners on the inside of the frame and used the 2 inch square tubing cross member like you did. I live in Bend BTW.
Sure would like to know if you are happy with the Timbren axel-less suspension. I have removed my tandem torsion axels ( 40 years old pre-Dexter ! ) Am planning on installing Timbren axel-less 1 ton (long arm) two sets on my RV. Is there anything you would do different as far beefing up the frame prior to mounting? Thank you.
Hey Greg, did you do this? I'm about to commit and need some feedback on this option, as I'm prone to get it based on his conversation with Timbren, THANKS!
I have a couple questions if you don't mind. 1. What is the thickness of your frame tubing? 2. Did the angle iron on the back side solve any tube buckling issues? What thickness angle iron did you use? I'm in a similar position as you with tube steel that is pretty thin at 0.09". I was thinking about putting 1/4" plate on each side of the frame tube to sandwich it Thanks!
How does this suspension perform on highway travel? Does it dramatically decrease fuel efficiency compared to a dexter when it comes to high speed highway travel? With gas prices skyrocketing lately just wondering if it's worth it to have better off road performance but poorer fuel economy?
I would like to install the Timberen suspension on my old trailer. Should I get a 3500 long arm HD for a bigger Overland trailer. How long did it take to perform the entire job? Should I install BRAKES on the trailer? Is it a good idea to have brakes on an Overland trailer set up??
Very nice job, I have solution for the tire not at the middle You can get 2 new rise plastic pads and raise up the suspension. That will raise up the trailer and move the tire forward just a little. It could really center the tire
i was thinking about the timbren setup for my m416 trailer. for now i have 5.5x5 to 5x5 wheel adapters so i can run my JL tires on the trailer. electric brakes would be nice, but that hand brake on mine is awesome. looking forward to the followups on how you like the setup!
Hi im just curious what the clearance from ground to frame is with the 4 inch drop. I currently have a deck over tire squaredrop and I want to install this but the timbren website doesn't have much info regarding measurement specs. Thanks!
So how does the trailer ride now? I could def see where the 3500 axle was too much and making it not ride good. But also good to see that just because you have the size now you properly thought through the structural mods needed to take the abuse it will surely get. Have a great day Jason!
Hi, new in your channel, what size tires do you have? I am adding that suspension to a Army trailer but I don’t know what axle to get for it, I like the Timbren axel less 👍
I'm glad you do this, I've been curious about those axles. When you do your review videos, can you mount a Gopro underneath so we can see the travel of one side as you hit bumps?
So we have to really know the weight of our trailer or we could possibly get the wrong Timbren? Dang. So when I design and build my trailer I have to find out how much each foot of metal weighs and calculate as well as every part I add to it? Yikes. That’s a mathematical nightmare. I really just thought it mattered on tire size and sort of the weight but I didn’t think a axleless suspension can be too big. I plan on DIYing my trailer in the next several years. I’m hoping to buy a house in the next several years and then the first thing I’m doing is building a trailer since I’ll have a garage to do it and store it once complete.
Am in doing the same mod. Question: did you have any problems getting the bolts ( attaching the suspension to frame) to 165ft/lbs? I made the same kind of L angle bracket and even added gussets, but I can’t get the bolts to spec without the hanger starting to buckle.
I have several Jackery's (one 500, two 240). I have problems with the cigarette plugs slipping out. I don't think it is a Jackery problem - just the next to useless cigarette plugs. I want to use the 6mm 12 volt output ports instead, but I cannot find a supplier of 6mm male connectors or cables. Well, I did find one, but it was in China and will take a month or two to get here and once (and if) it does, who knows what they will look like. Does anybody have a solution?
So....$10k for the camper ... and now you have to look at the wheel/axle disproportion every time you use it? Brother, you have a lot more tolerance than I do. Anyway, sorry this happened, glad you're up and running again.
Nice install. It's good to have a buddy who can weld and fabricate. He clearly understands the engineering required to make the install as strong as possible. Most of us would struggle to find someone with those skills willing to help. Thanks for sharing .
When bolting through box tubing drill for sleeves and weld in to prevent tubing from crushing. For an example Jeep sleeve the frame for steering gear through bolts.
Other than that good video.
I changed my trailing arm suspension on my Moby to 3500 lb Timbren. A lot of work but I've had no problems since. I built a custom gusset like you did for the extra support and to keep the square frame frame compressing. I also used the cross member for further strength. I tightened all bolts after the first extreme use. Great product.
Awesome I've been looking into these type of axles for a while now. Interesting to see how they are installed. Good job bud
I like your videos Jason. Following your progress and the trials and tribulations! Keep them coming buddy.
Glad you shared this here as well. Trailer is coming along nicely. Take care
Nice job, it’s much better to “over engineer” mods than to break on the trail, I’m looking forward to the review after you run it for a while.
My last travel trailer was a single axle unit that came from the factory with a misaligned and possibly bent axle. You’ll know pretty fast if the alignment is good as it’ll burn up the tires if it’s not....but I’m sure you guys are spot on...
Thanks for another great video. I'm planning on using this system for my off-road camp trailer build so I will be waiting for your review.
Is the review coming soon???????? Pleaseeeeeeeeeee lol
Audio wasn't bad! Recovered it well. Looks like an interesting install. I'm surprised the 3500lb axle bent.
I just finished building my teardrop camper and I built the trailer to mount it on. I also used 1200 pound Timbren but my camper only weighs 250 pounds and the trailer frame weighs 250 pounds, so 500 pound total dry weight on a 1200 pound suspension. I also put angle stiffeners on the inside of the frame and used the 2 inch square tubing cross member like you did.
I live in Bend BTW.
I have the Timbrens on my Escapade camper. It pulls great!
Michael what size of Timbrens are you using? I'm gling to build a 6x10 trailer and not sure if 1 tonne is to light or need 3500 lb.
@@alandickson1629 3500lbs
@@michaelromack3490 Great Thanks
That’s the one big mod I want to do to my trailer. Waiting to hear how it performs.
I’ve been thinking of doing the same thing to my trailer. Thanks for the video 👍
Very informative video! Thanks for taking the time to share your d.i.y. experience with the Timbren Suspension!
ENJOYED! BE SAFE ! HAVE FUN ! GOD BLESS YOU BOTH ALWAYS !
Sure would like to know if you are happy with the Timbren axel-less suspension. I have removed my tandem torsion axels ( 40 years old pre-Dexter ! ) Am planning on installing Timbren axel-less 1 ton (long arm) two sets on my RV. Is there anything you would do different as far beefing up the frame prior to mounting? Thank you.
Hey Greg, did you do this? I'm about to commit and need some feedback on this option, as I'm prone to get it based on his conversation with Timbren, THANKS!
You have a part number for the long arm timbrens, looking at picking up the same thing for my teardrop
good friends are key
Yes they are👍
nice job you are a natural . i love your videos keep them coming.
Nice job. Hope the new axle’s do good...
I have a couple questions if you don't mind.
1. What is the thickness of your frame tubing? 2. Did the angle iron on the back side solve any tube buckling issues? What thickness angle iron did you use?
I'm in a similar position as you with tube steel that is pretty thin at 0.09". I was thinking about putting 1/4" plate on each side of the frame tube to sandwich it
Thanks!
How does this suspension perform on highway travel? Does it dramatically decrease fuel efficiency compared to a dexter when it comes to high speed highway travel? With gas prices skyrocketing lately just wondering if it's worth it to have better off road performance but poorer fuel economy?
Good lord, how much does that trailer weight?
👍👍 Great instructional video, Jason. Sound cleaned up good. Keep'em coming!!👏😀😎✝✌️💪☮🇺🇸🇺🇸
I want one of those trailers buddy.
Brother, What did the trailer before you change the axles?
I would like to install the Timberen suspension on my old trailer. Should I get a 3500 long arm HD for a bigger Overland trailer. How long did it take to perform the entire job? Should I install BRAKES on the trailer? Is it a good idea to have brakes on an Overland trailer set up??
Very nice job, I have solution for the tire not at the middle
You can get 2 new rise plastic pads and raise up the suspension.
That will raise up the trailer and move the tire forward just a little. It could really center the tire
i was thinking about the timbren setup for my m416 trailer. for now i have 5.5x5 to 5x5 wheel adapters so i can run my JL tires on the trailer. electric brakes would be nice, but that hand brake on mine is awesome. looking forward to the followups on how you like the setup!
Hi im just curious what the clearance from ground to frame is with the 4 inch drop. I currently have a deck over tire squaredrop and I want to install this but the timbren website doesn't have much info regarding measurement specs. Thanks!
So how does the trailer ride now?
I could def see where the 3500 axle was too much and making it not ride good. But also good to see that just because you have the size now you properly thought through the structural mods needed to take the abuse it will surely get.
Have a great day Jason!
Awesome video.
Hi, new in your channel, what size tires do you have? I am adding that suspension to a Army trailer but I don’t know what axle to get for it, I like the Timbren axel less 👍
I'm glad you do this, I've been curious about those axles. When you do your review videos, can you mount a Gopro underneath so we can see the travel of one side as you hit bumps?
Why would you use 1 ton Timbren and not 3500 lb ones? If your 3500 Dexter broke would beefier not be better?
One "tonne" is 2200 lb (1000 kg). The ASR1THDS03 is a different model than the 2000 lb one "ton" model.
So we have to really know the weight of our trailer or we could possibly get the wrong Timbren? Dang. So when I design and build my trailer I have to find out how much each foot of metal weighs and calculate as well as every part I add to it? Yikes. That’s a mathematical nightmare. I really just thought it mattered on tire size and sort of the weight but I didn’t think a axleless suspension can be too big. I plan on DIYing my trailer in the next several years. I’m hoping to buy a house in the next several years and then the first thing I’m doing is building a trailer since I’ll have a garage to do it and store it once complete.
Am in doing the same mod. Question: did you have any problems getting the bolts ( attaching the suspension to frame) to 165ft/lbs? I made the same kind of L angle bracket and even added gussets, but I can’t get the bolts to spec without the hanger starting to buckle.
I have never seen a trailer axle with a baring that tight.
I see the Corona Familiar 😁😁👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
review??
I have several Jackery's (one 500, two 240). I have problems with the cigarette plugs slipping out. I don't think it is a Jackery problem - just the next to useless cigarette plugs. I want to use the 6mm 12 volt output ports instead, but I cannot find a supplier of 6mm male connectors or cables. Well, I did find one, but it was in China and will take a month or two to get here and once (and if) it does, who knows what they will look like. Does anybody have a solution?
Mechanically a bit beyond me but looks like it worked out great! Audio was fine.
Nice!
can this be set up with toyota 17x6 ?
Seems like you could've notched the Timbren brackets 🤔
I was thinking the same thing.
Cut shallow groove on frame, slide timbren in forward and weld groove both sides.
Extra clearance for tires.
I thought it was just a notch in the fender mount.. but I’m not there.. so... armchair quarterback...
So....$10k for the camper ... and now you have to look at the wheel/axle disproportion every time you use it? Brother, you have a lot more tolerance than I do. Anyway, sorry this happened, glad you're up and running again.
Trailer axles are supposed to be bent in a upward convex direction…
only if you can't adjust camber. timbren's have a camber adjustment shim.
The wheel seems really a bit too far to the back th wheel will probably hits the fender
Could you put these on a harbor freight trailer??? Lol
A friend like that 4 , 30 packs Coors
U look like chuck Norris lol
Buy Chevrolet Express 4x4 and GO fishing, would greatly simplify life.
The corona didn't help