B mode is not “one pedal driving” mode or it is not designed to increase regen braking. It is there for steep downhills, since it also revs up the engine for engine braking. Using B mode in normal driving conditions will result worse fuel economy.
@@chilenitonuma Oh, that might be the case. 2017+ model probably does use B mode in a different way. They way you describe it, it's the same way my Corolla 2019 hybrid was working B = engine breaking.
@@chilenitonuma RAV4 certainly looks really appealing, but to me, it has one huge con ... and that's - it's an SUV :-D I get the appeal of a big car, but my wife, two kids and dog were fine in Corolla HB and are really happy in current Prius PHV.
I have a 2017 Prius Prime and I Love it !!!! I also have a 2021 RAV4 Prime I find my self driving my Prius much more than I drive the RAV4. Most under rated car. When not using the air conditioner I get 32 miles of EV range.
@@respinoza89if you are going to use ac just use engine cus you will get about 10-12 miles on ev. How do I know cuz I have a 21 prime and I put it to the test
We brought this car, new, 2 weeks ago, it is great. We use it for sub-urban short trips, temperature here is 10 - 20C° at the moment (Auckland New Zealand), EV range 50 -55km without the use of fan/heating. Went longer drives a couple times, we have 1l/100km shown so far.
I have had one for a year... for commuting I was getting about 2000 miles per tank this summer.. the winter is very different... front defrost starts the engine and you just don't get the mileage but really a great car! Btw, great review!
Heatead steering wheel, heated seats, HUD, secondary screen controlled by steering wheel, plug in, JBL speakers, amazing on gas. All this is in a prius prime?! I'm really tempted.
I just bought one. Was very difficult to find the Prius Prime 2021 Limited. I’m super excited as it’s being shipped to me from Houston. I drive a ton of highway miles taking kids back and forth to practices. Excellent and thorough review! Thank you.
I couldn't agree with you more about the cargo space. I have been using prius since the very beginning. Its trunk space is big enough to hold 2 or 3 medium size suitcases and small carry-on luggage for travel. Seeing the plugin version can increase the range to 130 miles for a charge, I decided to upgrade. Yet when I went to Toyota dealer only to find the trunk becomes too small to hold two suitcases. I gave up my decision. Other than daily grocery-shopping I cannot see other use for the car. For daily use, in fact, I'd rather have an electric car. The pros for hybrid is during travel time, you don't always have a charge station available. It is different from daily use, where you either park your car at home or in work place, where you can always find a charging post.
very impressed and happy with my purchase of a 2021 Prius Prime with 16k miles first bought in 2020 super well kept by original owner! What still blows my mind is the $45 to fill my tank here in Los Angeles (480 mile range listed on display) WOW!
About that view out the back, with that strange crossbar with glass both below and above. I have been driving a 2010 Prius for several years now. I've long since gotten used to the view - and one thing I like is, that crossbar blocks my view of the headlights of many normal-size cars (but not of tall trucks/suv's), which decreases the distraction I get from those headlights during night driving.
Enjoy watching you on the Out of Spec Podcast and this is the first review I’ve seen from you. Not a car I would be interested in but a nice review nonetheless. Thanks Forrest
The back window “Duck Tail” is about doing away with a wiper and motor And It Works brilliantly. Had one of these 3 years & 40,000kms-consistently 1 to 2l/100kms with Most power coming from solar roof and battery. Oh What A Feeling!
I have a 2019 Prime. I like the car a lot, great gas mileage and really nice to be able to use EV mode for our local trips. Only complaints would be the low ground clearance ( it’s easy to scrape underneath front bumper) and I wish there was more cargo space in back.
Honda Clarity: no hatch, so no long-ish loads/Ikea furniture/lumber etc. Hyundai/Kia plugin hybrids: no heat exchanger, so any climate control, like heat for nordic climes, your ICE engine will be running - i.e., you'll be driving hybrid, not pure plugin. Prius Prime downside: very low ground clearance - bad in snow or very rough roads.
The Prius Prime has always had the swoop in the rear glass, they never got rid of it. The normal Prius does not have the swoop since the rear end is completely different, maybe that's what you're thinking of.
This car is amazing. I drove around town a lot today and when I saw that the hybrid battery battery was getting down to 20% I went ahead and put the car in Ecco HV mode. It would still occasionally drive an EV mode regardless. This car does not like to sip gas at all. But the time my day was done I believe my overall mpg was well over 200 miles per gallon. If you factor in how much electric I was using. Bottom line is this cars amazing if you know how to manipulate the system like someone on TH-cam said if you get the car home and still have hybrid battery left over and you were using the engine ,then you did it wrong
In 2000, actually 1999, I bought a Toyota Tundra thinking the reliability would rival Honda, and I was right. But with this war and fuel prices rising fast, a Prius is looking good. I like that it is not reliant on a charge but can use gas. I am sold, the next car is the Prius, if I can afford one.
I'm an absolute fan of Toyota. And I just love the fact that they are the leader of hybrid cars BUT they don't have any Hybrid Sport car, they stick with good recipes like we love. Toyota knows that Hybrids are good, but they don't want this in their sport cars because it's killing the passion of a sport car. I just admire this brand
better deal than regular prius because of the federal/ state tax credit, if you buy it when they have good manufacturer rebate and dealer discount, this can be a great deal, way cheaper than prius, only downside I can see is decreased trunk space, quite significant actually. Oh well that's all before COVID lol
I have an ‘18 Prius Three and if I had any less cargo space, the hatch would be pointless. With that cargo space and price, I think a Camry Hybrid would be a better move.
Only a 25 mile battery only range? I have a 2nd gen Volt, and I understand the overall MPG-E of the Prime will beat it, but the extra battery miles on the Volt keeps me away from the pump.
MPG (not e) of the Prius Prime in gas powered mode also beats the Volt significantly, btw. But that 53 mile EV mode range is tempting for sure. The Volt is definitely on my shopping list right now, alongside the Prius Prime.
very impressed and happy with my purchase of a 2021 Prius Prime with 16k miles first bought in 2020 super well kept by original owner! What still blows my mind is the $45 to fill my tank here in Los Angeles (480 mile gas range listed on display) WOW!
I really like the exterior design minus the rear end but overall like it. I DON'T like the interior however. Don't like that slow, sluggish touch screen not to mention it really needs knobs. Toyota really dropped the ball with this model and could have been better. I also HATE how the speedometer is in the center vs in front of the driver. That's the reason I stay away from Mini's and same with the Prius as well. Other than that I like this vehicle, really hope Toyota updates it with those fixes and maybe even adds more range to the battery to 50+ miles plus gas.
I bought mine used today, and was confused by the cruise control, it seemed to keep shutting itself off. Is that a safety feature? Other than that I'm enjoying learning all the features. Thanks for this review!
It probably felt like it was shutting off, but... It was likely the radar adaptive cruise control slowing you down when it was getting closer to the car in front in the same lane. That can be adjusted or switched off. It is covered in the owner manual.
Looks good Imo it depends on where you live. Prius is great in the city and in the states where it's always warm and RAV4 would cool somewhere like CO ND or SD .. I love the prius tho
Hmmm. I have my eye on the upcoming Lexus NX 450+ which is a plugin hybrid. Might be spring 2022 when it comes out. About these plugin hybrids, after owning a Tesla Model 3 since 2018 with 300 mile advertised (in reality, it is 260 because the AC/Heat eats up battery faster than a baby drinks milk 🤣😉) the EV range of a plugin is a joke for me. However, what I'm HOPING for and asking is this: as compared to a regular hybrid, in full hybrid mode, does the Prime have better acceleration and less engine roar? If you're an owner, what, pray tell, is your experience in this regard?
Is this car suitable for country roads? I'm not talking about anything crazy, but my partner and I are looking for a car to take with us on our outdoor adventures; camping, driving to parks, forests, dirt roads, etc.
I would say no, very low to the ground, not a lot of power to dig you out of dirt, etc. This is a purpose built high-efficient vehicle meant to get you there and back in the most economical best for the environment but please, stay on paved roads (and I have a 2022 limited PP)
If you hold down the EV button for 3 seconds, your prime goes into charge mode. Whatever gas you use charges the car. Even if you are sitting idling your car, the gas still charges in this mode. I find I charge my car while waiting for my kids at the dr.s or just using this on hills. Why use my battery climbing when I can be charging. I use my charger at my house less thanks to this trick that charges my car as I drive. This is for the 2020 or newer models.
If you are a delivery drive I would stay with the standard Prius - trunk space is compromised due to the 8.8kwh battery compared to the standard and really, once you’ve used up the 25-30 miles pure electric it is then just like a standard Prius only without the space
@@markburch5851 I’m going to disagree here. I’ve carried 45-50 boxes when I did Amazon Flex with my Prime. On the 2-4hr shifts, the difference in mpg could be significant. I generally average over 105 mpg during my deliveries.
Um, no, a 30yr old Honda does not bet 55-60mpg nor have 25-30miles electric - plus all the safety and technology - just no - your just throwing off nonsense -
@@markburch5851 1990 Honda Civic CRX got 47 mpg highway average . I remember getting 51 mpg. That was before they started adding ethanol, and speed limits were 65.
@@Catman1798 maybe it’s because I’m older (37) but full coverage for my Prime is only $51 a month. However, I did get a discount by paying the entire thing at once.
my problem with this car just like any other small EV/Hybrid . that stupid ugly and lazy design Cookies wheels !!! why the hell these wheels should look like that ?! Cookies / Flowers !!🤣🤣🤣 .. I think the designers of this car meant to work for kids toy factory !!
You need to say only one thing about the review of this car...it's the best and most reliable car ever made!
Yes!
The best is Toyota
@@richarda9961 Prius is Toyota
What about the 10,000 battery?
B mode is not “one pedal driving” mode or it is not designed to increase regen braking. It is there for steep downhills, since it also revs up the engine for engine braking. Using B mode in normal driving conditions will result worse fuel economy.
Not really :)
When you are in EV it does increase regen breaking.
In HV mode it does break with motor.
@@chilenitonuma Oh, that might be the case. 2017+ model probably does use B mode in a different way.
They way you describe it, it's the same way my Corolla 2019 hybrid was working B = engine breaking.
@@chilenitonuma RAV4 certainly looks really appealing, but to me, it has one huge con ... and that's - it's an SUV :-D
I get the appeal of a big car, but my wife, two kids and dog were fine in Corolla HB and are really happy in current Prius PHV.
Wow he was on car gurus 😮
I'm getting 72 miles on my 2017 combine one charge plus gas, I doordash and is saving me a lot!
I have a 2017 Prius Prime and I Love it !!!! I also have a 2021 RAV4 Prime I find my self driving my Prius much more than I drive the RAV4. Most under rated car. When not using the air conditioner I get 32 miles of EV range.
What about when you do use air conditioner
What makes you drive the Prius more? That’s the real question
What do you get with the AC? I live in Phoenix so AC is permanent most of the year.
@@petercollingwood522 ac uses more gas / ev
@@respinoza89if you are going to use ac just use engine cus you will get about 10-12 miles on ev. How do I know cuz I have a 21 prime and I put it to the test
We brought this car, new, 2 weeks ago, it is great. We use it for sub-urban short trips, temperature here is 10 - 20C° at the moment (Auckland New Zealand), EV range 50 -55km without the use of fan/heating. Went longer drives a couple times, we have 1l/100km shown so far.
Things not covered was the actual fuel economy and it not having a spare tire..........pretty important stuff
I have had one for a year... for commuting I was getting about 2000 miles per tank this summer.. the winter is very different... front defrost starts the engine and you just don't get the mileage but really a great car! Btw, great review!
Such a great review! I'm getting ready to upgrade from a Prius to a Prime and I'm very excited!
did you do it?
@@jessez924 yep! Got a 17 prime advanced and I love it!
wat the...prime wat?
Heatead steering wheel, heated seats, HUD, secondary screen controlled by steering wheel, plug in, JBL speakers, amazing on gas.
All this is in a prius prime?! I'm really tempted.
I just bought one. Was very difficult to find the Prius Prime 2021 Limited. I’m super excited as it’s being shipped to me from Houston. I drive a ton of highway miles taking kids back and forth to practices. Excellent and thorough review! Thank you.
I couldn't agree with you more about the cargo space. I have been using prius since the very beginning. Its trunk space is big enough to hold 2 or 3 medium size suitcases and small carry-on luggage for travel. Seeing the plugin version can increase the range to 130 miles for a charge, I decided to upgrade. Yet when I went to Toyota dealer only to find the trunk becomes too small to hold two suitcases. I gave up my decision. Other than daily grocery-shopping I cannot see other use for the car. For daily use, in fact, I'd rather have an electric car. The pros for hybrid is during travel time, you don't always have a charge station available. It is different from daily use, where you either park your car at home or in work place, where you can always find a charging post.
105,000 problem free miles on my Prime
very impressed and happy with my purchase of a 2021 Prius Prime with 16k miles first bought in 2020 super well kept by original owner! What still blows my mind is the $45 to fill my tank here in Los Angeles (480 mile range listed on display) WOW!
like 45 to fill the whole tank????
@@alicedeemo3494 yea sometimes it was around 39-$42 couple months when gas was around 4.85-4.99 rn it’s around 5.39 here in LA
@@lamusic3899 yeah, it’s finally gone down to 430 at Costco. I live in La too
I test drove a limited version and the road noise was noticeable from the tires. Wind noise was minimal though.
I love it!I Love Toyota Hybrid Cars!Beautiful presentation!
About that view out the back, with that strange crossbar with glass both below and above. I have been driving a 2010 Prius for several years now. I've long since gotten used to the view - and one thing I like is, that crossbar blocks my view of the headlights of many normal-size cars (but not of tall trucks/suv's), which decreases the distraction I get from those headlights during night driving.
Good to know about blocking back lights
yeah, it seems so weird at first but I actually like it. too bad they're getting rid of it in the new generation 2023 model.
Awesome job, Forrest. Thank you!
Enjoy watching you on the Out of Spec Podcast and this is the first review I’ve seen from you. Not a car I would be interested in but a nice review nonetheless. Thanks Forrest
The back window “Duck Tail” is about doing away with a wiper and motor And It Works brilliantly. Had one of these 3 years & 40,000kms-consistently 1 to 2l/100kms with Most power coming from solar roof and battery. Oh What A Feeling!
Worth mentioning: Rear seats fold down to provide more carrying capacity.
Thanks he should have mentioned that!
The "B" is not for regen braking at all. It's an engine brake which is used when the battery can't take any more charge.
I have a 2019 Prime. I like the car a lot, great gas mileage and really nice to be able to use EV mode for our local trips. Only complaints would be the low ground clearance ( it’s easy to scrape underneath front bumper) and I wish there was more cargo space in back.
Honda Clarity: no hatch, so no long-ish loads/Ikea furniture/lumber etc. Hyundai/Kia plugin hybrids: no heat exchanger, so any climate control, like heat for nordic climes, your ICE engine will be running - i.e., you'll be driving hybrid, not pure plugin. Prius Prime downside: very low ground clearance - bad in snow or very rough roads.
I have a 2018 Prius prime I think it's interesting that they brought back the swoop in the glass as they did a away with it 19 and 20
Which swoop are you talking about ?
The Prius Prime has always had the swoop in the rear glass, they never got rid of it. The normal Prius does not have the swoop since the rear end is completely different, maybe that's what you're thinking of.
This car is amazing. I drove around town a lot today and when I saw that the hybrid battery battery was getting down to 20% I went ahead and put the car in Ecco HV mode. It would still occasionally drive an EV mode regardless. This car does not like to sip gas at all. But the time my day was done I believe my overall mpg was well over 200 miles per gallon. If you factor in how much electric I was using. Bottom line is this cars amazing if you know how to manipulate the system like someone on TH-cam said if you get the car home and still have hybrid battery left over and you were using the engine ,then you did it wrong
Forrest on CarGurus, I dig it!
In 2000, actually 1999, I bought a Toyota Tundra thinking the reliability would rival Honda, and I was right. But with this war and fuel prices rising fast, a Prius is looking good. I like that it is not reliant on a charge but can use gas. I am sold, the next car is the Prius, if I can afford one.
I just got one. This car is the best. Level 2 charge for 28 miles and over 50mpg after. This car will last in Vegas.
I'm an absolute fan of Toyota. And I just love the fact that they are the leader of hybrid cars BUT they don't have any Hybrid Sport car, they stick with good recipes like we love. Toyota knows that Hybrids are good, but they don't want this in
their sport cars because it's killing the passion of a sport car. I just admire this brand
better deal than regular prius because of the federal/ state tax credit, if you buy it when they have good manufacturer rebate and dealer discount, this can be a great deal, way cheaper than prius, only downside I can see is decreased trunk space, quite significant actually. Oh well that's all before COVID lol
I love my Prius Prime so much
Thanks for the great review. I'm impressed with the Prius Prime!
I just got this car in black thank you for the review because I had no idea how to use it
Great review. Very comprehensive… the future now. 👍
Great Review Forrest.
I have an ‘18 Prius Three and if I had any less cargo space, the hatch would be pointless. With that cargo space and price, I think a Camry Hybrid would be a better move.
Just got one, and love it 🥳. I’m working my way through the owner’s manual, which is an encyclopedia. Thought I would watch TH-cam video’s too.
Only a 25 mile battery only range? I have a 2nd gen Volt, and I understand the overall MPG-E of the Prime will beat it, but the extra battery miles on the Volt keeps me away from the pump.
MPG (not e) of the Prius Prime in gas powered mode also beats the Volt significantly, btw. But that 53 mile EV mode range is tempting for sure. The Volt is definitely on my shopping list right now, alongside the Prius Prime.
very impressed and happy with my purchase of a 2021 Prius Prime with 16k miles first bought in 2020 super well kept by original owner! What still blows my mind is the $45 to fill my tank here in Los Angeles (480 mile gas range listed on display) WOW!
Great review!
The screen looks like the visuals of the first NES
I have test drove a 2020 Prius Prime. The same color you driven. I do the color and how quite the vehicle runs.
I really like the exterior design minus the rear end but overall like it. I DON'T like the interior however. Don't like that slow, sluggish touch screen not to mention it really needs knobs. Toyota really dropped the ball with this model and could have been better. I also HATE how the speedometer is in the center vs in front of the driver. That's the reason I stay away from Mini's and same with the Prius as well. Other than that I like this vehicle, really hope Toyota updates it with those fixes and maybe even adds more range to the battery to 50+ miles plus gas.
I bought mine used today, and was confused by the cruise control, it seemed to keep shutting itself off. Is that a safety feature? Other than that I'm enjoying learning all the features. Thanks for this review!
It probably felt like it was shutting off, but... It was likely the radar adaptive cruise control slowing you down when it was getting closer to the car in front in the same lane. That can be adjusted or switched off. It is covered in the owner manual.
I believe I'd choose the 2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 for efficiency, and looks inside & out. Keep 'em coming, I'll keep watchin & enjoying.
Wish I could buy one. Toyota said it would be about 8 months if I put down a down payment for one.
ok now how does it drive?
Looks good
Imo it depends on where you live. Prius is great in the city and in the states where it's always warm and RAV4 would cool somewhere like CO ND or SD ..
I love the prius tho
Hmmm. I have my eye on the upcoming Lexus NX 450+ which is a plugin hybrid. Might be spring 2022 when it comes out. About these plugin hybrids, after owning a Tesla Model 3 since 2018 with 300 mile advertised (in reality, it is 260 because the AC/Heat eats up battery faster than a baby drinks milk 🤣😉) the EV range of a plugin is a joke for me. However, what I'm HOPING for and asking is this: as compared to a regular hybrid, in full hybrid mode, does the Prime have better acceleration and less engine roar? If you're an owner, what, pray tell, is your experience in this regard?
From my understanding watching other reviews, the acceleration and noise are more or less the same.
@@vfmlor Thx. I had thought so, and purchased a Lexus ES300h three months ago and love it.
Can one use Android Auto on this model?
I will probably buy one in two years. Two years ago I would have said a prius? you kidding me.
Why did it had a exhaust pipes
Is this car suitable for country roads? I'm not talking about anything crazy, but my partner and I are looking for a car to take with us on our outdoor adventures; camping, driving to parks, forests, dirt roads, etc.
I would say no, very low to the ground, not a lot of power to dig you out of dirt, etc. This is a purpose built high-efficient vehicle meant to get you there and back in the most economical best for the environment but please, stay on paved roads (and I have a 2022 limited PP)
Is that Forrest from TH-cam Shorts!?!
Can you do an L eco Prius?
Does the back seat lay flat?
Yes but there is a 1 or 2 inch height difference between the hatch cargo area and the folded down seats. It's not flat storage like a regular prius.
It looks so so; however, it’s a Prius everyone buys it for mpg and reliability
Looks way better in person!
Best vehicle ever made
Thank you
If you hold down the EV button for 3 seconds, your prime goes into charge mode. Whatever gas you use charges the car. Even if you are sitting idling your car, the gas still charges in this mode. I find I charge my car while waiting for my kids at the dr.s or just using this on hills. Why use my battery climbing when I can be charging. I use my charger at my house less thanks to this trick that charges my car as I drive. This is for the 2020 or newer models.
That'll just use more gas to charge the battery, it's better to just charge it by plugging it in.
Thanks for the tip
Also does not fully charge the vehicle.....only possible to get 80 %.....for a full 100 % charge you must plug it in.
Forrest?
Summer time, no AC used you can beat 25 miles.
I just got 2022 blue
What is this a cross over episode jokes aside i I’m going to (hopefully walk ok the dealership) with a 2022 prime
Best car I’ve ever had
IM GOING TO BUY TOYOTA PRIME HYBRID BECAUSE I NEVER HAD ONE
great beater
Good luck finding this car….impossible
I want it for a delivery driver like me
If you are a delivery drive I would stay with the standard Prius - trunk space is compromised due to the 8.8kwh battery compared to the standard and really, once you’ve used up the 25-30 miles pure electric it is then just like a standard Prius only without the space
@@markburch5851 I’m going to disagree here. I’ve carried 45-50 boxes when I did Amazon Flex with my Prime. On the 2-4hr shifts, the difference in mpg could be significant. I generally average over 105 mpg during my deliveries.
Do the 2022 prius prime
It's the same car. Except the there is no glossy plastic between driver and passenger door, it's mate.
6'6 with the hair
Still a great car for people who only need an A to B commuter car
Why does the brand new Prius get the same mileage as a 30 year old Honda?
Um, no, a 30yr old Honda does not bet 55-60mpg nor have 25-30miles electric - plus all the safety and technology - just no - your just throwing off nonsense -
@@markburch5851 1990 Honda Civic CRX got 47 mpg highway average . I remember getting 51 mpg. That was before they started adding ethanol, and speed limits were 65.
I really don’t like the rear end of this car. Other than that I would consider it
Same here, I find the back really ugly, so much so that I've been looking at the previous gen a bit too. Otherwise, it seems nice!
@@Iyana check the insurance rate. It was way more expensive for a Prius prime with my insurance company
@@Catman1798 maybe it’s because I’m older (37) but full coverage for my Prime is only $51 a month. However, I did get a discount by paying the entire thing at once.
with that price, you could bought a honda clarity and get 47miles full charge
Except they are cancelling the Clarity after this year and no one has any in stock.
You forgot to mention that huge gas tank on the Clarity my dude 😂!!!
Lower MPG once the battery dies though.
I hope they up their game in the aesthetic department for their next generation, it's just too heinously ugly to me.
LIKE
my problem with this car just like any other small EV/Hybrid . that stupid ugly and lazy design Cookies wheels !!! why the hell these wheels should look like that ?! Cookies / Flowers !!🤣🤣🤣 .. I think the designers of this car meant to work for kids toy factory !!
They’ve tried hard but it is still very ugly inside and out.
There is loads of better car in same price.
He has no idea 💡 on what he's talking about
This was an excellent review.