Get the Full Scoop on The BlueTran Lightning and check out how I handle my "Karen" experience at the end... Totally broke OhManDan down (in a nice way).
Hey @KhanRides... thanks for Visiting Scootopia. Yes, that is an insane discount for a very good Scooter (the 1st 10" 72V Electric Scooter to hit the streets) The revisional improvements made a big difference in its performance. Stay SAFE out there my friend and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride. Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel if you FIND my Content Helpful to You in any WAY like this one Buddy.
Hi OhManDan, I just met you today at Oc Scooters in Buena Park CA. My name is Joshua. I enjoyed talking with you about the fast scooters and the importance of wearing safety gear.🙏
Yes Joshua, It was a joy and pleasure speaking to you about Electric Scooters and the importance of always wearing Safety Gear. Stay SAFE out there my friend and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride. Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel if you FIND my Content Helpful to You in any WAY like this one Buddy.
Thanks OhManDan for your dedication and going the extra miles for that range test I really appreciate it.! Thanks for your honesty and look forward to watching your future videos :)
Ohhhhh Mannnn @Thomas Tangalin... thank you so much for your kind words. That was a Ride. I appreciate you. Make sure you're SUBSCRIBED so that you don't miss any coming Videos. I gotta lotta New stuff Coming... so Stay Tuned Buddy.
I had an actual Karen experience today. I had to use the sidewalk because the road was all potholes. Some woman was walking her dog and stopped to let me by. As I'm riding by her nice and slowly, she just gives me this disgusted look and calls me "Moron" for no reason.
Why thank you my Brother @Marc M... I actually wrote it and had a professional Artist go in the Booth and record my original work into what you hear. I'm glad you like it Brother. I too love the finished product. I also wrote another one that you may have heard when you first subscribed. It starts off... "Sittin' 'round da house... really nuttin' to do, jumped on the web..." Stay connected Brother, I have a lotta new stuff coming your way.
Hi sir, I have a budget of around $1700. I am mainly gonna use it for commuting around 2 miles a day. Looking for something fun and fast. good suspension and breaks are a must and cannot be too heavy. help is really appreciated. Some other options I have looked at include. I am 150 pounds 5'9. Some places have decently steep hills. Eagle One PRO RoadRunner RS5 PRO Vsett 10+ Mantis V2 Bluetran Lightning Dualtron Victor/Spider 2
good value, but why o why do they out the charging port just where you have your foot? do they want you to break it at the first ride? the storm has the same problem, but there its cause its a removable battery at least, so they kind of had to. but this place even worse! i really hope they stop putting it at the worst spot possible in the future.
Hey @Elliot Gh0st... thanks for visiting Scootopia. If you like my Videos, be sure to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel so that you don't miss any of my Power Scooter Content. I gotta lotta New stuff Coming your WAY. So Stay Tuned Buddy. Yes, it is odd but it does not intrude the Scoot much. My feet are large, so my left foot rest right over that Port but it is between my toe region. So it feels like I'm not on top of it.
Thanks OhManDan for the honest review! How would you rate this model on a scale of 1 to 10 with regards to range, power, built quality, speed, and responsiveness? Also, do you think there's a quickfix or permanent workaround to prevent the stem from wobbling? Appreciate your opinion. Thank you and keep it up sir! 💪
YW @LittleRocket42... and thank you for visiting Scootopia. If you like my Videos, be sure to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel so that you don't miss any of my Power Scooter Content. I gotta lotta New stuff Coming your WAY. So Stay Tuned Buddy. I think the BlueTran Lightning ranks around an "7" in its Class of Scooters (ZERO 10X, Apollo Pro, Mantis, w/o Steering Damper) I would not try to compare it directly with the Dualtron Brand (I don't think they intended it to rank equal to their Dualtrons) however, it is a viable alternative economical option. I do strongly believe (like the D6+) that once fitted with a Steering Damper, proper inflated tires, and right height rake... that the BlueTran Lightning will hold its own (in its Class) as a formidable competitor. Thanks... as long as people support my Channel, I will continue to invest my all.
Hey, OhManDan. I bought a Bluetran last month, and I'm only now exploring the light show remote control to change to a single color in flashing mode. For some reason, the remote has no effect. I tried changing the remote battery, but no luck. Maybe I'm not pointing it in the right place. Could you check it out on your Lightning and see if you could get the colors to change? I would appreciate any tips.
Hey @Manny Doria... thanks for visiting Scootopia. If you like my Videos, be sure to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel so that you don't miss any of my Power Scooter Content. I gotta lotta New stuff Coming your WAY. So Stay Tuned Buddy. You just need to point the remote towards the neck of the Scooter Chasis, that is where the sensor is.
Hey Dan, Thank you so much for your amazing review. I've tried looking around TH-cam and there really isn't that much reviews on this scooter but am very interested in getting one, so I definitely appreciate your thoroughness. With that said, would you happen to remember what your battery percentage was at the end of your minimum range test? Any insight would be great. Thanks again!
Hey @Manuel Almazan... thanks for visiting Scootopia. If you like my Videos, be sure to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel so that you don't miss any of my Power Scooter Content. I gotta lotta New stuff Coming your WAY. So Stay Tuned Buddy. Yes, i used all of it. My display was flashing. My battery was down to 21, and by the time I got down to the garage it was 14.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Thank you for the quick response! And what would you say your average speed was throughout the entire way? Love all your videos -- will subscribe now!
@@manuelalmazan1437 thanks Buddy, I appreciate your loyalty. I did 25mph, up and down between 19 and 25. I did not start with a full Pack. I forgot what it was.
thank you for your extensive and practical video Dan. not many vids out there in this model. in your opinion, does is thr bluetran worth thr extra money it costs compared to a mantis v2 or pro se? thanks again for your work :)
Hey @Moe Sizlak... thanks for visiting Scootopia. If you like my Videos, be sure to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel so that you don't miss any of my Power Scooter Content. I gotta lotta New stuff Coming your WAY. So Stay Tuned Buddy. Yes the BlueTran Lightning is a better option to the Mantis lineup. The BT Lightning is definitely worth its build and nice components.
Thanks @Shinar Frazier... and thank you for visiting Scootopia. If you like my Videos, be sure to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel so that you don't miss any of my Power Scooter Content. The BlueTran is a great Scooter for those who don't need BiG Power Scooters. The small tires and small frame is a little too small for me. That wobble was irritating because I couldn't even maximize its speed potential. It felt like it had more to give but it was just too unstable. Just about ALL my 32 Scooters are BiG Power Scooters and I just don't have stability issues with them. As for comparing the BlueTran with the Dualtron I would say that it is truly a different Scooter than Dualtrons (I prefer the Dualtrons more) but it is no comparison to the Dualtron Brand. I think it should be compared to Scooters in its Class. More like a D6+, a Phantom or a Mantis.
I have heard that Zoom brakes are shit compared to NUTT, but damn! If your stopping distance is 9'.3" @ 15Mph, what is you stopping distance @ 55Mph? About two football fields?
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Yeah, I guess I'm just a bit spoiled then, as I have the privilege of riding a VSETT 10+ with NUTT hydraulic brakes. So, if you ever get the chance..
@@jackmaehoph4822 yeah, I have the Vsett 11 Super 72, and ALL 15 of my Dualtrons have NUTT Brakes. So I'm very familiar with them. I also Scooters with Magura and Hope Tech Hydraulic Brakes. You're right NUTT Brakes are a little better than ZOOM but ZOOM are OK Brakes.
Hello Dan, How is the ride quality compared to dtx2? I know they completely different beast. But just wondering if dtx2 ride quality is worth 2x than bluetran? Do you also have info if minimotors will release dtx3 or dtx2 limited? Thanks again.
Hey Buddy... the ride quality is no comparison to the DTX2. The BlueTran Lightning has a lotta of Speed Wobble starting at around 38mph and gets worse. You will definitely need a Steering Damper. I think you may have to tighten the Jam Nut at the Headset as well, but other than that, it's a lotta fun!
Im surprised you experienced the wobbling, with mines i dint experience any of it. U need to make sure you tighten the locking slides correctly n have no movement on the steering tube.
I was very surprised it was so bad, with those small wheels, I expected a little after 40mph but this was bad. I definitely made sure everything was tight, my tires were inflated to 45psi, and the rake on the front was set at right height. It was worst than my D6+. But after the Steering Damper, it may be very worthy Commuter
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan I can understand it may be small for your height, i am only 5’9 n 180 lbs so on a heavier guy it can experience wobbling in my opinion. I just dint have that experience tho.
@@tiggy1559 Yeah, you are actually right to an extent there Buddy. I'm going to get that Steering Damper and then it will be a real joy to Ride as expected.
@@jesseh56 yes Bar width does make a difference Brother. Thanks for visiting Scootopia... if you like my Videos, be sure you're SUBSCRIBED so you don't miss any of my Power Scooter Content. I gotta lotta New stuff Coming your WAY.
Hey @Psky31Ta... thanks for visiting Scootopia. If you like my Videos, be sure to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel so that you don't miss any of my Power Scooter News, Releases, Updates, Sneak Peaks, Free Promotional Gifts, Proprietary Merch Discounts, Trips, GiveAway Opts, Scootology Discounts, Micro Mobility Association Membership Bonuses, and so much more. Dualtron, it is not but it is made by the same Manufacturer (MiniMotors). The BlueTran Lightning is a new Brand by MiniMotors and if they learn from the first iteration, the second should be incredible.
Nice video! I live not too far away in Sacramento and I'm considering the BlueTran as an upgrade from my Varla Pegasus, but not sure I'm ready to spend that much because this isn't my only hobby :). Maybe you keep all your rides forever, but if you ever want to sell yours, let me know man! Not many of these around so I don't know how easy it would be for me to find one used. Thanks!
Thanks @Orion Burdick... and thank you for visiting Scootopia. Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel if you FIND my Content Informative, Beneficial, or Helpful to your PEV Journey. You're right, I DO NOT sell my Scooters. I do Sponsor an Annual GiveAway of one of my Power Scooters starting every Thanksgiving and given away on Christmas Eve. By all means, visit our website to learn more about OhManDan, our Club, what we stand for and promote and also to learn more about the Annual GiveAway. Stay SAFE out there my friend and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan awesome just got my new emove cruiser had to send other one back sent me a 600 w when it was supposed to be 1000w but the handle and got everything straight awesome customer service how u enjoying the new scooter
Hey @Davien7497... thanks for Visiting Scootopia. I Ride with People all the time across the Country. What Country, and Town are you in? Stay SAFE out there my friend and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride. Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel if you FIND my Content Helpful to You in any WAY or You like WiNNING Valuable PEV GIFTS. We are giving away the 2023 ROADRUNNER PRO this month. Make sure you watch my ROADRUNNER PRO VIDEO to find out more Buddy.
HI Sir, i just got my bluetran lightning and i'm so dissappointed on how much speed wobble i has when cruising on a 30 mph speed. Do you have any suggestions / recommendation on how to minimize speed wobble. I am so amazed by this scooter as a whole but i just can't take the speed wobble. Thank you in advance sir and more power.
Hey @Rene Santos... first, let me thank you for visiting Scootopia. If you like my Videos, be sure to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel so that you don't miss any of my Power Scooter Content. I gotta lotta New stuff Coming your WAY. So Stay Tuned Buddy. The Speed Wobble is a very valid concern, as you heard me mention in the Video. I don't know who you bought yours from... I did speak to John and Cooper over at MiniMotorsUSA.com (where I bought my BlueTran Lightning from) and they told me that they were experiencing some calls from people who were facing this problem. They went on to tell me what happened. It turns out that the Manufacturer in China, shipped a batch that had lose Headset Jam Nut which they were able to identify and repair (by tightening the Headset Jam Nut). There are some other points I'd like to recommend as well to completely solve your Speed Wobble concerns. 1. Tighten both Fold Locking Clamps properly and sufficient 2. Check and properly inflate your tires (I like to inflate my around 3psi to 5psi lower than Manufacturer suggestion in order to guarantee a nice contact Patch for better traction. 3. Buy a Steering Damper (currently there's only one available Brand that works for The Blue Tran Lightning) I will recommend that Brand as they are a very good and reliable Brand (it is The ERREX Brand) Doing these three things in addition to having your Headset Jam Nut properly torqued will bring you the MOST STABLE Ride you've ever experienced on an Electric Scooter and take care of ANY and ALL of your Speed Wobble issues. If you bought your Scooter from MiniMotorsUSA.com, they are well prepared to mitigate and take care of this issue for You (If not, please contact The Vendor You bought Yours from). Give John and Cooper a call over at MiniMotorsUSA.com and let them know that OhManDan sent you and they will definitely roll out the Red Carpet for You, as they do everything in their power to take care of the issue and get you Rolling. Stay SAFE Buddy and don't forget to GearUP.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Thank you sir for for immediate reply... i'm from the Philippines i just bought my Bluetrans from Minimotors Philippines. I will try to tighten the headset Jam Nut myself.. I will also try to lower the suspension. I hope this will lessen the speed wobble. Thank you sir... i am now one of your avid subscribers. more power to you.
My bluetran lightning just broke while I was going probably 35 mph. I have severe road rash. The front just fell down when I went over train tracks. My buddy looked at the scooter and said it's a bolt under the suspension that went. This happened around 600 miles on the odometer. Terrible scooter imo. Currently asking the company for a refund.
Hey @562james... thanks for visiting Scootopia. WAY WAY BETTER!! The BlueTran Lightning, with the right experienced Rider proves a well built Scooter, with power, speed and stability. I really like what they did with a relatively small Scooter with big components. Stay SAFE out there my friend and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride. Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel if you FIND my Content Helpful to You in any WAY like this one Buddy.
is the height of the stem adjustable? I did stood on one on them at the shop and it feels uncomfortable as I feel like my arms are too stretched out or maybe im just used to Segway commuter scooters.
Hey @Japs Pamplona... thanks for visiting Scootopia. Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel if you FIND my Content Informative, Beneficial, or Helpful to your PEV Journey. The best way to find out your ideal Pole height is to take your favorite Scooter, sit it on a stable platform off the ground, where you can stand on the deck safely. While on the deck, hold your arms relaxed, down to your sides, with your elbows slightly bent about 110°-130° angle and you hands in a relaxed fist (as though you're lightly holding the grips) have someone measure from the deck to your palm and that measurement will be your ideal Pole height. It should be slightly above your belly button. Stay SAFE out there my friend and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride. No, the Steering Pole is not adjustable Buddy.
Hey @Julian... thanks for visiting Scootopia. If you like my Videos, be sure to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel so that you don't miss any of my Power Scooter Content. I gotta lotta New stuff Coming your WAY. So Stay Tuned Buddy. The range is relative to Rider Weight, "P" Settings, Road Conditions, Climate, and Battery Charge. I was able to get just under 60 miles of range but my weight is 240lbs (with gear), my speed setting was "#2", Power was at 80%, and I maintained 20mph the whole ride, for almost 4hr ride both ways (27 miles going and back). When manufactures suggest speed, range etc, they are basing it on 165lb Rider and all the other conditions I gave above must be perfect, then you'd probably get their claimed speed, range etc (that applies to all electric scooters Julian)
Hey @Michael LeCompte... I have homes in Florida, Atlanta and California but I (do a lot behind the scenes) Drive all over Country meeting with Local Government Representatives wherever and whenever I must in order to move our industry forward. If you like my Videos, make sure you're SUBSCRIBED so you don't miss any of my Power Scooter Content. I gotta lotta New stuff Coming your WAY. So Stay Tuned Buddy.
I have a Mantis. I just need more range but close to same weight. I took a NAMI for a test ride from FFR here in NYC and while it was super nice, it was just simply way too big. I live in a small studio in NYC and my Mantis is already big enough. I was thinking perhaps a DT Spider 2 for it's low weight or the new DT Victor Luxury? I want a mid-weight scooter with long range. Which would be a good choice?
Wowww Brother, those are two great choices, but I want you to also check out the Achilleus and tell me which two of the three you favor and I will have a greater idea of your preference. I'm thinking you'll like the Spider 2 more because of the weight and you get a big bang with considerably less price tag... Let me know what you think.
@@jessa.3857 Yuuuup, it's a little heavier than the Victor (around 86lbs) and the Spider 2 is still less than 60lbs (I think it's around 56lbs) but that Achilleus is pretty nimble.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan That's exactly why I still like my Mantis, it's nimbleness! That Nami I test rode was stiff and wide turns in comparison. It had a steering damper so perhaps that's why it felt stiff. Maybe I need to get used to that, lol. I need light and nimble with lots of range and power (if possible!) here in NYC. If I owned a home and lived in the country, I'd def go big and just park them in the garage.
@@jessa.3857 Yeah I figured... You'd better definitely go with the Spider 2. If you choose to go with John and Cooper eat MiniMotorsUSA.co or Melvin at VoroMotors.com... you will be doing great either way. they both provide great Customer Service and stand behind their Product. Which ever you choose, let them know OhManDan sent you and either will definitely roll out the Red Carpet for You.
Yes @Matthew M... it is a shame because it should have come standard with a Steering Damper (knowing it was built for speed with small tires) Once the Steering Damper is attached, I believe it will really contend with Scooters "in its Class" Make sure you're SUBSCRIBED Buddy, so that you don't miss any of my Power Scooter Content. I gotta lotta New stuff Coming your WAY. So Stay Tuned...
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Yeah, I basically can't take mine over 35 MPH because of the wobbles. The only damper currently available is the EREXX and the only place you can order from right now is directly from them in Korea. Plus, it's $500 which essentially puts it in the same price bracket as the Wolf Warrior GT and Burn-E 2.
I've had my Lightning for about a month now and I installed the Erexx steering damper. It was the making of this scooter. Now it's the perfect high speed commuter scooter. I love it!!❤️
Wowwwww @@jayparker393 ... thanks for visiting Scootopia. If you like my Videos, be sure to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel so that you don't miss any of my Power Scooter Content. I gotta lotta New stuff Coming your WAY. So Stay Tuned Buddy. I'm pleasantly surprised at your mention of the amazing Erexx Steering Damper resolving the violent speed wobble. Hallelujah!!! I'm sure you've heard of the headset Jamnut not being tightened adequately... Did you have to make that correction on your Lightning?
Oh Yeah...@@Macgurl222 I Ride all over the Country with Groups and individual Scootopian Riders. What part of the Country are you in and which Scooter do you Ride?
Hey @Pablo Antonio Alvear Ariaran... thanks for visiting Scootopia. If you like my Videos, be sure to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel so that you don't miss any of my Power Scooter Content. I gotta lotta New stuff Coming your WAY. So Stay Tuned Buddy. It's pretty hard for me to choose the Lightning over a Dualtron because there are so many cutbacks in order to offer at the lower price point. Both these are pretty close but the Dualtron Victor Luxury comes out atop in my book and would choose the Victor Luxury over the BlueTran Lightning.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan what cuts are you referring to? since as I understand the bluetrain lightning is better equipped than the victor luxury (button for turn signals, angle adjustment on the handlebar, possibility of increasing-decreasing the inclination of the ground, etc.) in addition to having greater power and autonomy? PS: I already found out about the wobble problems at high speeds of the bluetrain lightning handlebars that are causing discomfort in its buyers. In this regard, the dualtron victor luxury does not have them? Thanks for your answer.
@@pabloantonioalveararriaran696 hey Brother... I'm just referring to less expensive components in order to deliver at a lower cost to Consumers. There are several components that are not the same quality as Dualtron Components. There's nothing wrong with that, we Consumers are very familiar with Manufacturers having to do this with all sorts of Brands that we buy. Make no mistake... we get what we pay for. I actually love the BlueTran Lightning and the purpose it serves for me. There are several things people can do to mitigate the Speed Wobble and they are: 1. First get the Headset Jam Nut tightened 2. Then add a Steering Damper. ERREX is the only one available right now, it's $500 dollars but it's worth every cent. 3. Then Tighten Fold Locking Clamps properly. 4. Then check and correct Tire Pressure. I like to add 3-4PSI less to get a good contact patch for better traction. Do these and You will enjoy your Lightning for many years without Speed Wobble.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan thank you for your answer. I only ask you to tell me if the dualtron victor luxury presents problems of wobbling in the mast at high speeds since I am about to buy a scooter and this would help me in my choice.
Man, i dont understand how the premium brand Minimotors did not check the seafty issue on this one. I mean its your life at stake here. Saving a few bucks to gambel it, its unbelivebal😮😟🙁
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan The speed wobbel, thats nothing to play with. If you have power but cant use it because your life will be at risk, thats not small problem if you ask me.
@@matalden9363 Yes, you're absolutely right. It is a problem that stem across many Manufacturers that need to be addressed. First of all, the smaller the wheel size the higher the risk for speed wobble. Smaller wheels are generally more dangerous and should not be used in conjunction with high speed. However this focus exist with NAMI, BRONCO, ZERO, NanRobot, YUME, and many other Scooters because of poor R & D, and Production. Whenever I see Scooters with smaller wheels and also some with larger wheels that do not focus in their R & D phase on Production there are going to be problems... Guaranteed! All Scooters will have problems, it boils down to WHAT the Manufacturer and/or Vendor is going to do about those problems that WILL MAKE all the DIFFERENCE in the world. Whenever issues are presented. The BlueTran has been recalled (ordered to be returned to the Vendor for repairs) [ CALL FIRST arrange convenient times for those repairs ] to be handled. To date ALL BlueTran Lightnings have been FiXED and is in a better place today... All because MiniMotors have addressed these safety concerns and fixed them. The same for NAMI, APOLLO and ZERO, they all addressed their issues, and fixed them straight away. NanRobot just fixed their long standing issues with regard to the Speed Wobble and BRONCO outright REFUSED to even consider the Customer with their very dangerous issues (I spoke to the owner directly and he TOLD me as much) and for their callus neglect, they have been put on a LIST of Manufacturers who look at the Customer as only a dollar figure, with no regard to resolving issues in the best interest of those Consumers. I have spoken to all of these Manufacturers about these issues and like I said, some responded favorably and others have not as I have addressed here in this direct response. My BlueTran Lightening WAS seriously affected by the issues you've discussed but TODAY my BlueTran has none of the Speed Wobble issues it initially had... because MiniMotors listened to my concerns and FiXED every one of those issues. So though you bring up very valid concerns, you don't have to worry about them with respect to the BlueTran Lightening's Speed Wobble issues. All of those safety concerns have been fixed. However... do understand my friend, that there are certain things that every one of US-- Scooter Owners WILL have to DO in order to guarantee that OUR Scooter(s) operate at THEIR SAFEST Capacities. In many cases... because we've bought Scooters with smaller wheels... we WILL, at times, have to purchase added safety measures, like steering dampers, wider bars, better shocks, better Tires and brake pads. We also have will have to buy more ancillary items like; better lights, reflectors, mirrors etc in an effort to make our Ride Safer and more pleasurable. So yes there are issues... but if we continue holding Manufacturers and Vendors accountable, plus DOING our PARTS to mitigate what is in OUR power to execute... in order for everything to work like they should, we should be okay. Look at the bright side... we're getting there but there's still lotsa work to be done. That's why I WORK so HARD behind the scenes to protect the interest of Consumers. Thanks for your comment and addressing critical facts that warrant some addressing. In most cases this is the ONLY way responsible Manufacturers and Vendors will find out and make the necessary corrections needed to keep us safe. Stay SAFE out there my friend and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride. Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel if you FIND my Content Helpful to You in any WAY.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Thanks fot the very informative answer Oh man Dan🫵🌠 Im very glad to hear that mini motors has fixed this issue on the bluetrain lightning ⚡️. Im intrested to buy one of their middel range scooters at some point. It seems to be that the idea behind the bluetrain lightning is that you will get a very high preforming scooter at an affordeball price. Thats was the reason i boght thr Yume M 10. Great features to a good price. But it has speed wooble but Yume is sending me parts to fix it. No way i will go fast if its wobbly. I love the M10 but the wobbel need to be fixed for sure. Thanks for the work you do behind the cene Oh Man Dan. I understand why God has blessed you. He took care of me since i was just 18 years old. He is my all Oh Man Dan🙏🏼🌠 And the company you warned me about, i will never buy from them. A life is worth more then any money. God bless Oh Man Dan🫵🌅
Thank You @@matalden9363 and you are right, God called and equipped me to do what I'm doing. I discovered my Purpose early in life, when I was 8yrs old... and that is, "To HELP People WiN" sounds like you have the same source as myself, "God Almighty" Jehovah Jireh, Shilom, Rafah, Nissi, Shalom, Tsidkenu... Shamah, Tsabbaoth Yahweh, Adonai, Elohim, El Shaddai, Elyon, Alpha & Omega... you get my drift! Stay SAFE out there my friend and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride. Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel if you like what I STAND for, or FIND my Content HELPFUL to You in any WAY.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan No they don't. I am talking about split-rim rings. For example my ultra and Speedway 4 Pro have split Rim rings and the new spider 2 does not.
Yeah... I don't expect this one to move you Brother. I think this is for a certain type of person (not an eNthusiast) and not any one who loves power and speed. Looks nice and has a gentleness about it that I can see filling a large swatch of Consumers.
This is my future scooter I will modify for more power (80 mph) once I get it. In stock form this is slow, it has only one 30A controller powering the rear motor, and the front is not a motor but just an aluminum wheel with motor-looking cover, you could say a "wheel cap" in cars. So it's only putting out 30 amp...which explains for 40 mph top speed. The battery has plenty of headroom and the deck inside is HUGE. I will replace the battery pack with ultra-performance batteries built by me. Wiring and connections will be full pure copper. Handlebar and pole will be carbon fiber. Tires will be replaced with 11" slick tires (not the PMT). Will mount a seat with carbon fiber seat post and lightweight saddle. The entire deck space will be occupied by the battery. The Rion FOC controller will be mounted on the lower part of the handlebar pole. It will be a rear wheel drive. This is my upcoming project.
@@jesseh56 I know it sounds awkward to say but that front wheel doesn't have a motor it's just a lightweight aluminum wheel with motor-looking cover, similar to a hubcap on car wheels. If you don't believe me get your hands on one of these and check it out yourself. And also the controller is just one not two.
Hey @justinklein2982... thanks for Visiting Scootopia. Obviously you did not watch the Video... had you watched you would not have said anything you said. You are right that she is the sweetest, most enduring Karen I've ever met. As a matter of fact, she and I have seen each other at the park several times and frequently walk and talk together. So now I know her even better since this recording. I'm sure you read comments or skipped to the end to watch Karen but you had no context. I hate when people make uninformed comments because they're always wrong in their assumptions. Karen is actually her real name and you would have known that if you watched the Video because I asked her name and she told me it was Karen during our dialogue. So to answer your question... I described her as Karen because learning her name she became and remain the sweetest Karen I've ever met on the streets. With my Videos it is always best to watch before you comment because my discretion are always found within the actual Video. Stay SAFE out there my friend and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride. Don't forget to SUBSCRIBE to my Channel if you FIND my Content Helpful to You in any WAY like this one Buddy.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Of course I watched the entire video. You didn’t mention a “KAREN” (written in BOLD) being in your video until I was alerted to it with your transcribed comment, “Don’t forget to STAY for the end….My experience running into a KAREN” at 15:30 in. Operative word being “A” Karen there. It’s not exactly like it was the title of your video, was it? But I’m glad to know you weren’t playing on the whole “KAREN” thing, despite you bolding her name, because that was her _actual_ name. I apologize for missing that, but I hope you can understand the confusion on my part, especially given the way you prefaced your interaction. But with that aside, I agree that we should be SAFE out there, and always wear protective gear, like special helmets, especially when we engage in conversations where we’re overly defensive about using racialized terms in a joke-y way. 😉
@justinklein2982 I don't know where your mindset is or was but you are the ONLY person thinking "racialized" terms. You have taken my statement way out of context because you piece watched the Video and missed important context, thus arriving at YOUR own interpretation that was far from my messaged context. My preface to watch to the end was just as it implied... and if you had seen my face when I asked her name gleam with the biggest smile after she said "My name is Karen" you would understand the full context and premise. Everyone on the planet isn't racist, nor think in those terms as you describe. Especially me, if you've watched my videos... or even visit our website you would discover that I have been an Humanitarian since I was 8yrs old (a pure love for ALL Mankind) Helping hundreds of thousands of people around the world and all over the Country become the best version of themselves, creating thousands of millionaires in the process regardless their race, creed, status, looks, and even behavior. I have loved on even the most racist people and those who bad mouth me in ways that others may say they could never do because it is WHO I am. Perhaps you know nothing about me, my legacy, reputation or stance but perhaps visiting our website can help you understand who "OhManDan" truly is. Visit here: WestCoastScooters.org/membership.html Be sure to read our Handbook on this page as well. Life's too short for this kind of tension especially with such a lovely Karen who has become my good friend.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Well I apologize if I got it wrong, but it sure seemed to me that you were indeed playing on the “KAREN” moniker. But whatever - you’re right, life is too short to make mountains out of molehills. I appreciate the content and wish you nothing but the best. Cheers.
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@@matalden9363 my favorite Scooter is the Dualtron X2 and hopefully soon to be my newest purchase... The Dualtron X Limited. Stay SAFE out there Buddy.
Hello Dan, How is the ride quality compared to dtx2? I know they completely different beast. But just wondering if dtx2 ride quality is worth 2x than bluetran? Do you also have info if minimotors will release dtx3 or dtx2 limited? Thanks again.
Again, this BlueTran Lightning is a Commuter (very limited in its scope compared to DTX 1 or 2) The DTX Brand can ONLY be compared with major Power Scooters in its Class. This Scooter is a Commuter with a few bells and whistles but far below the range of a DTX 1 or 2. The DTX3 should be coming sometime this summer, around August but of course we know those dates are always subject to move later and later.
![[Tuto] Installation batterie externe 72V sur BLUETRAN LIGHTNING.](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/owEeMGc9hY4/mqdefault.jpg)
This scooter is currently on an insane sale for only $1200. Hands down the best sale in the entire PEV industry
Hey @KhanRides... thanks for Visiting Scootopia.
Yes, that is an insane discount for a very good Scooter (the 1st 10" 72V Electric Scooter to hit the streets) The revisional improvements made a big difference in its performance.
Stay SAFE out there my friend and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride.
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The scooter is on of the best out there 🎉 🎉 🎁 👏🏽 👏🏽 Love it for the money unbelievable 😱
Hi OhManDan, I just met you today at Oc Scooters in Buena Park CA. My name is Joshua. I enjoyed talking with you about the fast scooters and the importance of wearing safety gear.🙏
Yes Joshua,
It was a joy and pleasure speaking to you about Electric Scooters and the importance of always wearing Safety Gear.
Stay SAFE out there my friend and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride.
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Thanks OhManDan for your dedication and going the extra miles for that range test I really appreciate it.! Thanks for your honesty and look forward to watching your future videos :)
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I had an actual Karen experience today. I had to use the sidewalk because the road was all potholes. Some woman was walking her dog and stopped to let me by. As I'm riding by her nice and slowly, she just gives me this disgusted look and calls me "Moron" for no reason.
Thanks for the ending
You got the 💙
Keep it scooting.
You didn't choice the
Scooter life
The scooter life chose
You.
Thanks
Thanks Brother, I appreciate that...
Love that OhManDan scooter song at the end
Why thank you my Brother @Marc M... I actually wrote it and had a professional Artist go in the Booth and record my original work into what you hear. I'm glad you like it Brother. I too love the finished product. I also wrote another one that you may have heard when you first subscribed. It starts off... "Sittin' 'round da house... really nuttin' to do, jumped on the web..."
Stay connected Brother, I have a lotta new stuff coming your way.
Hi sir, I have a budget of around $1700. I am mainly gonna use it for commuting around 2 miles a day. Looking for something fun and fast. good suspension and breaks are a must and cannot be too heavy. help is really appreciated. Some other options I have looked at include. I am 150 pounds 5'9. Some places have decently steep hills.
Eagle One PRO
RoadRunner RS5 PRO
Vsett 10+
Mantis V2
Bluetran Lightning
Dualtron Victor/Spider 2
I love how you advertised scooters, man. Am glad to subscribe to your channel!
Thank you @Oliver Aido and thanks for the SUB. You are an Official Scootopian Brother.
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I can't wait to view and like, bro. Good work out there!
@@oliveraidoo7861 thanks my Scootopian Brother.
Any recent updates on it? Miles and/or issues? Or do you sell them shortly after the review?
I can't feel the E Brake i got the setting set to 5 feel no difference when it set to on or off
Thanks for another great review like always.
Looks like a good quilty scooter.
It's a dueltron.
Thanks again
Mister Dan.
The Scooter Man.
Yuuuuuup.... it still serves its purpose but for a select group of Riders. This one's not for the experienced eNthusiast in my opinion
Thanks OhManDan
@@dennisgolden7596 you are very very welcome Brother.
It's a Minimotors*.
Dualtron and Bluetran is by Minimotors.
good value, but why o why do they out the charging port just where you have your foot? do they want you to break it at the first ride? the storm has the same problem, but there its cause its a removable battery at least, so they kind of had to. but this place even worse! i really hope they stop putting it at the worst spot possible in the future.
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Yes, it is odd but it does not intrude the Scoot much. My feet are large, so my left foot rest right over that Port but it is between my toe region. So it feels like I'm not on top of it.
Thanks OhManDan for the honest review!
How would you rate this model on a scale of 1 to 10 with regards to range, power, built quality, speed, and responsiveness?
Also, do you think there's a quickfix or permanent workaround to prevent the stem from wobbling?
Appreciate your opinion. Thank you and keep it up sir! 💪
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I think the BlueTran Lightning ranks around an "7" in its Class of Scooters (ZERO 10X, Apollo Pro, Mantis, w/o Steering Damper) I would not try to compare it directly with the Dualtron Brand (I don't think they intended it to rank equal to their Dualtrons) however, it is a viable alternative economical option.
I do strongly believe (like the D6+) that once fitted with a Steering Damper, proper inflated tires, and right height rake... that the BlueTran Lightning will hold its own (in its Class) as a formidable competitor.
Thanks... as long as people support my Channel, I will continue to invest my all.
You mentioned in the video that the stem locking mechanism isn't one of your favorite. Is it that bad?
@@littlerocket42 No, I just hate those type of locking mechanisms because they take several ADJUSTMENTS in order to get it tightened right.
Hey, OhManDan. I bought a Bluetran last month, and I'm only now exploring the light show remote control to change to a single color in flashing mode. For some reason, the remote has no effect. I tried changing the remote battery, but no luck. Maybe I'm not pointing it in the right place. Could you check it out on your Lightning and see if you could get the colors to change? I would appreciate any tips.
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You just need to point the remote towards the neck of the Scooter Chasis, that is where the sensor is.
You know I love that Panerai! You’re a watch guy too? My man!!
Ohhhhhh Mannnn @Michael LeCompte... thanks Buddy, we are indeed vibin' there.
Hey Dan,
Thank you so much for your amazing review. I've tried looking around TH-cam and there really isn't that much reviews on this scooter but am very interested in getting one, so I definitely appreciate your thoroughness. With that said, would you happen to remember what your battery percentage was at the end of your minimum range test? Any insight would be great. Thanks again!
Oh also, what was your average speed for the entire ride? Thanks!
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Yes, i used all of it. My display was flashing. My battery was down to 21, and by the time I got down to the garage it was 14.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Thank you for the quick response! And what would you say your average speed was throughout the entire way?
Love all your videos -- will subscribe now!
@@manuelalmazan1437 thanks Buddy, I appreciate your loyalty.
I did 25mph, up and down between 19 and 25. I did not start with a full Pack. I forgot what it was.
Another great one bites the dust 👌
Thanks Hercules... doing a max range test on a small scooter like that, was grueling.
thank you for your extensive and practical video Dan. not many vids out there in this model. in your opinion, does is thr bluetran worth thr extra money it costs compared to a mantis v2 or pro se? thanks again for your work :)
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Yes the BlueTran Lightning is a better option to the Mantis lineup. The BT Lightning is definitely worth its build and nice components.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan thanks Dan! new to the market and so many options to consider. the first hand advice is super helpful :)
Great vid, but I want to know how it compares to the ride and performance of Dualtrons? Loved Karen !
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The BlueTran is a great Scooter for those who don't need BiG Power Scooters. The small tires and small frame is a little too small for me. That wobble was irritating because I couldn't even maximize its speed potential. It felt like it had more to give but it was just too unstable.
Just about ALL my 32 Scooters are BiG Power Scooters and I just don't have stability issues with them.
As for comparing the BlueTran with the Dualtron I would say that it is truly a different Scooter than Dualtrons (I prefer the Dualtrons more) but it is no comparison to the Dualtron Brand. I think it should be compared to Scooters in its Class. More like a D6+, a Phantom or a Mantis.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Perfect…that’s exactly what I wanted to know. Thanks! & YES…I’ve been subscribed for a long time 👍🏽
You're welcome@@shinarfrazier4261 and thanks for your support and loyalty.
I have heard that Zoom brakes are shit compared to NUTT, but damn! If your stopping distance is 9'.3" @ 15Mph, what is you stopping distance @ 55Mph? About two football fields?
Actually @Jack Maehoph... 9.3' is a good shopping distance at 15mph. Of course you're right better Brakes give better performance
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Yeah, I guess I'm just a bit spoiled then, as I have the privilege of riding a VSETT 10+ with NUTT hydraulic brakes. So, if you ever get the chance..
@@jackmaehoph4822 yeah, I have the Vsett 11 Super 72, and ALL 15 of my Dualtrons have NUTT Brakes. So I'm very familiar with them.
I also Scooters with Magura and Hope Tech Hydraulic Brakes.
You're right NUTT Brakes are a little better than ZOOM but ZOOM are OK Brakes.
Hello Dan, How is the ride quality compared to dtx2? I know they completely different beast. But just wondering if dtx2 ride quality is worth 2x than bluetran?
Do you also have info if minimotors will release dtx3 or dtx2 limited?
Thanks again.
Hey Buddy... the ride quality is no comparison to the DTX2. The BlueTran Lightning has a lotta of Speed Wobble starting at around 38mph and gets worse. You will definitely need a Steering Damper.
I think you may have to tighten the Jam Nut at the Headset as well, but other than that, it's a lotta fun!
Im surprised you experienced the wobbling, with mines i dint experience any of it. U need to make sure you tighten the locking slides correctly n have no movement on the steering tube.
I was very surprised it was so bad, with those small wheels, I expected a little after 40mph but this was bad. I definitely made sure everything was tight, my tires were inflated to 45psi, and the rake on the front was set at right height. It was worst than my D6+. But after the Steering Damper, it may be very worthy Commuter
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan I can understand it may be small for your height, i am only 5’9 n 180 lbs so on a heavier guy it can experience wobbling in my opinion. I just dint have that experience tho.
@@tiggy1559 Yeah, you are actually right to an extent there Buddy. I'm going to get that Steering Damper and then it will be a real joy to Ride as expected.
I switched mine to wide handlebars,no more wobble
@@jesseh56 yes Bar width does make a difference Brother.
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Nice Dualtron scooter, I would like to have one if possible.
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Dualtron, it is not but it is made by the same Manufacturer (MiniMotors). The BlueTran Lightning is a new Brand by MiniMotors and if they learn from the first iteration, the second should be incredible.
ahhh you got me, dan. i was expecting an "i wanna speak to the manager" type of karen. that little old lady was a sweetheart!
awesome video brother
Yezzzzir... she stole my heart ❤️. I know her kids and grandkids gotta love every ounce of time with her...
Nice video! I live not too far away in Sacramento and I'm considering the BlueTran as an upgrade from my Varla Pegasus, but not sure I'm ready to spend that much because this isn't my only hobby :). Maybe you keep all your rides forever, but if you ever want to sell yours, let me know man! Not many of these around so I don't know how easy it would be for me to find one used. Thanks!
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By all means, visit our website to learn more about OhManDan, our Club, what we stand for and promote and also to learn more about the Annual GiveAway.
Stay SAFE out there my friend and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride.
Amen Hallelujah Praise God
I’m here buddy
Watzup my Brother?
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan awesome just got my new emove cruiser had to send other one back sent me a 600 w when it was supposed to be 1000w but the handle and got everything straight awesome customer service how u enjoying the new scooter
GOOD VIDEO bro
Thanks Bro, it was fun and tiring at the same time.
Do you ride with anyone sometimes?
Hey @Davien7497... thanks for Visiting Scootopia.
I Ride with People all the time across the Country.
What Country, and Town are you in?
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HI Sir, i just got my bluetran lightning and i'm so dissappointed on how much speed wobble i has when cruising on a 30 mph speed. Do you have any suggestions / recommendation on how to minimize speed wobble. I am so amazed by this scooter as a whole but i just can't take the speed wobble. Thank you in advance sir and more power.
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The Speed Wobble is a very valid concern, as you heard me mention in the Video.
I don't know who you bought yours from...
I did speak to John and Cooper over at MiniMotorsUSA.com (where I bought my BlueTran Lightning from) and they told me that they were experiencing some calls from people who were facing this problem.
They went on to tell me what happened. It turns out that the Manufacturer in China, shipped a batch that had lose Headset Jam Nut which they were able to identify and repair (by tightening the Headset Jam Nut).
There are some other points I'd like to recommend as well to completely solve your Speed Wobble concerns.
1. Tighten both Fold
Locking Clamps
properly and sufficient
2. Check and properly
inflate your tires (I like
to inflate my around
3psi to 5psi lower than
Manufacturer
suggestion in order to
guarantee a nice
contact Patch for
better traction.
3. Buy a Steering Damper
(currently there's only
one available Brand
that works for The Blue
Tran Lightning) I will
recommend that Brand
as they are a very good
and reliable Brand (it is
The ERREX Brand)
Doing these three things in addition to having your Headset Jam Nut properly torqued will bring you the MOST STABLE Ride you've ever experienced on an Electric Scooter and take care of ANY and ALL of your Speed Wobble issues.
If you bought your Scooter from MiniMotorsUSA.com, they are well prepared to mitigate and take care of this issue for You (If not, please contact The Vendor You bought Yours from).
Give John and Cooper a call over at MiniMotorsUSA.com and let them know that OhManDan sent you and they will definitely roll out the Red Carpet for You, as they do everything in their power to take care of the issue and get you Rolling.
Stay SAFE Buddy and don't forget to GearUP.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Thank you sir for for immediate reply... i'm from the Philippines i just bought my Bluetrans from Minimotors Philippines. I will try to tighten the headset Jam Nut myself.. I will also try to lower the suspension. I hope this will lessen the speed wobble. Thank you sir... i am now one of your avid subscribers. more power to you.
@@dreamswalkingtours Thank you for the SUB... You are now an Official Scootopian Brother.
My bluetran lightning just broke while I was going probably 35 mph. I have severe road rash. The front just fell down when I went over train tracks. My buddy looked at the scooter and said it's a bolt under the suspension that went. This happened around 600 miles on the odometer. Terrible scooter imo. Currently asking the company for a refund.
U are everywhere lol. You're fault for not checking you're scooter after every ride. Also for not wearing the right gear
How does this compare to a Kaboo Mantis?
Hey @562james... thanks for visiting Scootopia.
WAY WAY BETTER!! The BlueTran Lightning, with the right experienced Rider proves a well built Scooter, with power, speed and stability. I really like what they did with a relatively small Scooter with big components.
Stay SAFE out there my friend and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride.
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Good job 🤘🏿 Fobos X next!?
Youre right, I gotta look into that one
is the height of the stem adjustable? I did stood on one on them at the shop and it feels uncomfortable as I feel like my arms are too stretched out or maybe im just used to Segway commuter scooters.
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The best way to find out your ideal Pole height is to take your favorite Scooter, sit it on a stable platform off the ground, where you can stand on the deck safely. While on the deck, hold your arms relaxed, down to your sides, with your elbows slightly bent about 110°-130° angle and you hands in a relaxed fist (as though you're lightly holding the grips) have someone measure from the deck to your palm and that measurement will be your ideal Pole height. It should be slightly above your belly button.
Stay SAFE out there my friend and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride.
No, the Steering Pole is not adjustable Buddy.
Great stopping power
Anything under 10' is
Great great speed and
Milage.
Yuuuuuup, you're right.
Nice video bro 👍🏽
Thanks Brother. With a Steering Damper, it will def be on point 100%. That speed wobble is a big concern for Rider Safety.
Aye ohmandan I heard this scooter doesn't have single motor option. Um my question is so it will travel you 90 miles using dual motors?
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The range is relative to Rider Weight, "P" Settings, Road Conditions, Climate, and Battery Charge. I was able to get just under 60 miles of range but my weight is 240lbs (with gear), my speed setting was "#2", Power was at 80%, and I maintained 20mph the whole ride, for almost 4hr ride both ways (27 miles going and back).
When manufactures suggest speed, range etc, they are basing it on 165lb Rider and all the other conditions I gave above must be perfect, then you'd probably get their claimed speed, range etc (that applies to all electric scooters Julian)
Now you’re in the East Bay, man I thought you were in Florida!
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I have a Mantis. I just need more range but close to same weight. I took a NAMI for a test ride from FFR here in NYC and while it was super nice, it was just simply way too big. I live in a small studio in NYC and my Mantis is already big enough. I was thinking perhaps a DT Spider 2 for it's low weight or the new DT Victor Luxury? I want a mid-weight scooter with long range. Which would be a good choice?
Wowww Brother, those are two great choices, but I want you to also check out the Achilleus and tell me which two of the three you favor and I will have a greater idea of your preference.
I'm thinking you'll like the Spider 2 more because of the weight and you get a big bang with considerably less price tag...
Let me know what you think.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Wow, the Achilleus looks good! Thanks for the suggestion and making my purchasing decision a little harder, lol.
@@jessa.3857 Yuuuup, it's a little heavier than the Victor (around 86lbs) and the Spider 2 is still less than 60lbs (I think it's around 56lbs) but that Achilleus is pretty nimble.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan That's exactly why I still like my Mantis, it's nimbleness! That Nami I test rode was stiff and wide turns in comparison. It had a steering damper so perhaps that's why it felt stiff. Maybe I need to get used to that, lol. I need light and nimble with lots of range and power (if possible!) here in NYC. If I owned a home and lived in the country, I'd def go big and just park them in the garage.
@@jessa.3857 Yeah I figured... You'd better definitely go with the Spider 2. If you choose to go with John and Cooper eat MiniMotorsUSA.co or Melvin at VoroMotors.com... you will be doing great either way. they both provide great Customer Service and stand behind their Product.
Which ever you choose, let them know OhManDan sent you and either will definitely roll out the Red Carpet for You.
Shame about the speed wobble. Apart from that it looks awesome.
Yes @Matthew M... it is a shame because it should have come standard with a Steering Damper (knowing it was built for speed with small tires)
Once the Steering Damper is attached, I believe it will really contend with Scooters "in its Class"
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@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Yeah, I basically can't take mine over 35 MPH because of the wobbles. The only damper currently available is the EREXX and the only place you can order from right now is directly from them in Korea. Plus, it's $500 which essentially puts it in the same price bracket as the Wolf Warrior GT and Burn-E 2.
@@Acebean yuuuuup... I think it should've had a Steering Damper included.
I've had my Lightning for about a month now and I installed the Erexx steering damper. It was the making of this scooter. Now it's the perfect high speed commuter scooter. I love it!!❤️
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I'm pleasantly surprised at your mention of the amazing Erexx Steering Damper resolving the violent speed wobble. Hallelujah!!!
I'm sure you've heard of the headset Jamnut not being tightened adequately...
Did you have to make that correction on your Lightning?
There meet up groups? Looking to ride with a group. Bay Area here
Huhhhhh? I'm confused. Are you asking a question or making a statement here?
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan asking if there are meet up groups to meet and ride. Sorry for confusion
Oh Yeah...@@Macgurl222 I Ride all over the Country with Groups and individual Scootopian Riders.
What part of the Country are you in and which Scooter do you Ride?
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Bluetran top battery. California
Is better dualtron victor luxury or this bluetrain lightning for you?
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It's pretty hard for me to choose the Lightning over a Dualtron because there are so many cutbacks in order to offer at the lower price point.
Both these are pretty close but the Dualtron Victor Luxury comes out atop in my book and would choose the Victor Luxury over the BlueTran Lightning.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan what cuts are you referring to? since as I understand the bluetrain lightning is better equipped than the victor luxury (button for turn signals, angle adjustment on the handlebar, possibility of increasing-decreasing the inclination of the ground, etc.) in addition to having greater power and autonomy?
PS: I already found out about the wobble problems at high speeds of the bluetrain lightning handlebars that are causing discomfort in its buyers. In this regard, the dualtron victor luxury does not have them?
Thanks for your answer.
@@pabloantonioalveararriaran696 hey Brother... I'm just referring to less expensive components in order to deliver at a lower cost to Consumers. There are several components that are not the same quality as Dualtron Components.
There's nothing wrong with that, we Consumers are very familiar with Manufacturers having to do this with all sorts of Brands that we buy.
Make no mistake... we get what we pay for. I actually love the BlueTran Lightning and the purpose it serves for me. There are several things people can do to mitigate the Speed Wobble and they are:
1. First get the Headset
Jam Nut tightened
2. Then add a Steering
Damper. ERREX is the
only one available right
now, it's $500 dollars
but it's worth every
cent.
3. Then Tighten Fold
Locking Clamps
properly.
4. Then check and correct
Tire Pressure. I like to
add 3-4PSI less to get
a good contact patch
for better traction.
Do these and You will enjoy your Lightning for many years without Speed Wobble.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan thank you for your answer. I only ask you to tell me if the dualtron victor luxury presents problems of wobbling in the mast at high speeds since I am about to buy a scooter and this would help me in my choice.
@@pabloantonioalveararriaran696 OhMan... my bad. Yes, there is a little Wobble at 48mph. Not as bad as the BlueTran Lightning though.
Man, i dont understand how the premium brand Minimotors did not check the seafty issue on this one. I mean its your life at stake here. Saving a few bucks to gambel it, its unbelivebal😮😟🙁
What are you referring to Buddy?
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan The speed wobbel, thats nothing to play with. If you have power but cant use it because your life will be at risk, thats not small problem if you ask me.
@@matalden9363 Yes, you're absolutely right. It is a problem that stem across many Manufacturers that need to be addressed.
First of all, the smaller the wheel size the higher the risk for speed wobble. Smaller wheels are generally more dangerous and should not be used in conjunction with high speed.
However this focus exist with NAMI, BRONCO, ZERO, NanRobot, YUME, and many other Scooters because of poor R & D, and Production. Whenever I see Scooters with smaller wheels and also some with larger wheels that do not focus in their R & D phase on Production there are going to be problems... Guaranteed!
All Scooters will have problems, it boils down to WHAT the Manufacturer and/or Vendor is going to do about those problems that WILL MAKE all the DIFFERENCE in the world. Whenever issues are presented. The BlueTran has been recalled (ordered to be returned to the Vendor for repairs) [ CALL FIRST arrange convenient times for those repairs ] to be handled. To date ALL BlueTran Lightnings have been FiXED and is in a better place today...
All because MiniMotors have addressed these safety concerns and fixed them. The same for NAMI, APOLLO and ZERO, they all addressed their issues, and fixed them straight away.
NanRobot just fixed their long standing issues with regard to the Speed Wobble and BRONCO outright REFUSED to even consider the Customer with their very dangerous issues (I spoke to the owner directly and he TOLD me as much) and for their callus neglect, they have been put on a LIST of Manufacturers who look at the Customer as only a dollar figure, with no regard to resolving issues in the best interest of those Consumers. I have spoken to all of these Manufacturers about these issues and like I said, some responded favorably and others have not as I have addressed here in this direct response.
My BlueTran Lightening WAS seriously affected by the issues you've discussed but TODAY my BlueTran has none of the Speed Wobble issues it initially had... because MiniMotors listened to my concerns and FiXED every one of those issues.
So though you bring up very valid concerns, you don't have to worry about them with respect to the BlueTran Lightening's Speed Wobble issues. All of those safety concerns have been fixed.
However... do understand my friend, that there are certain things that every one of US-- Scooter Owners WILL have to DO in order to guarantee that OUR Scooter(s) operate at THEIR SAFEST Capacities. In many cases... because we've bought Scooters with smaller wheels... we WILL, at times, have to purchase added safety measures, like steering dampers, wider bars, better shocks, better Tires and brake pads. We also have will have to buy more ancillary items like; better lights, reflectors, mirrors etc in an effort to make our Ride Safer and more pleasurable.
So yes there are issues... but if we continue holding Manufacturers and Vendors accountable, plus DOING our PARTS to mitigate what is in OUR power to execute... in order for everything to work like they should, we should be okay.
Look at the bright side... we're getting there but there's still lotsa work to be done. That's why I WORK so HARD behind the scenes to protect the interest of Consumers.
Thanks for your comment and addressing critical facts that warrant some addressing. In most cases this is the ONLY way responsible Manufacturers and Vendors will find out and make the necessary corrections needed to keep us safe.
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@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Thanks fot the very informative answer Oh man Dan🫵🌠 Im very glad to hear that mini motors has fixed this issue on the bluetrain lightning ⚡️. Im intrested to buy one of their middel range scooters at some point. It seems to be that the idea behind the bluetrain lightning is that you will get a very high preforming scooter at an affordeball price. Thats was the reason i boght thr Yume M 10. Great features to a good price. But it has speed wooble but Yume is sending me parts to fix it. No way i will go fast if its wobbly. I love the M10 but the wobbel need to be fixed for sure. Thanks for the work you do behind the cene Oh Man Dan. I understand why God has blessed you. He took care of me since i was just 18 years old. He is my all Oh Man Dan🙏🏼🌠 And the company you warned me about, i will never buy from them. A life is worth more then any money. God bless Oh Man Dan🫵🌅
Thank You @@matalden9363 and you are right, God called and equipped me to do what I'm doing. I discovered my Purpose early in life, when I was 8yrs old... and that is, "To HELP People WiN" sounds like you have the same source as myself, "God Almighty" Jehovah Jireh, Shilom, Rafah, Nissi, Shalom, Tsidkenu... Shamah, Tsabbaoth
Yahweh, Adonai, Elohim, El Shaddai, Elyon, Alpha & Omega... you get my drift!
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Yezirr 🔥
Thanks... that range test wore me out.
"A GOD Wink" I just Love Karen ❤️
Yes, she was a true gem. You know she's covted in her Community and loved by her kids and grands.
Does it have split-rims?
I'm not sure but what I know about 10" rimmed Scooters, most likely. I'll take a look at it tomorrow and know for sure Buddy.
Yes its minimotors "motor" split rim and can put on dt3 tubeless tire
Yes, @JPO Or... ALL Tubed Tires, have to have split Rims.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan No they don't. I am talking about split-rim rings. For example my ultra and Speedway 4 Pro have split Rim rings and the new spider 2 does not.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan there are a lot of Scooters out there with tubed tires that you have to pry the tire off to get the tube out.
Thanks OhManDan . Can you gift me one of your old scooters for my birthday
Honest, as usual… not impressed with the scooter, tho.
Yeah... I don't expect this one to move you Brother.
I think this is for a certain type of person (not an eNthusiast) and not any one who loves power and speed. Looks nice and has a gentleness about it that I can see filling a large swatch of Consumers.
This is my future scooter I will modify for more power (80 mph) once I get it. In stock form this is slow, it has only one 30A controller powering the rear motor, and the front is not a motor but just an aluminum wheel with motor-looking cover, you could say a "wheel cap" in cars. So it's only putting out 30 amp...which explains for 40 mph top speed. The battery has plenty of headroom and the deck inside is HUGE. I will replace the battery pack with ultra-performance batteries built by me. Wiring and connections will be full pure copper. Handlebar and pole will be carbon fiber. Tires will be replaced with 11" slick tires (not the PMT). Will mount a seat with carbon fiber seat post and lightweight saddle. The entire deck space will be occupied by the battery. The Rion FOC controller will be mounted on the lower part of the handlebar pole. It will be a rear wheel drive. This is my upcoming project.
Ohhhhh Mannnn @Noobz...
You dropped a lotta great info there... thanks Brother!
Keep me posted on your progress...
Uh pretty sure its dual motor lol
@@jesseh56 it is definitely Dual Motors for sure.
@@jesseh56 I know it sounds awkward to say but that front wheel doesn't have a motor it's just a lightweight aluminum wheel with motor-looking cover, similar to a hubcap on car wheels. If you don't believe me get your hands on one of these and check it out yourself. And also the controller is just one not two.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Thanks.. I will 🙂
That's not Karen she's angel.
She is definitely an Angel but the BEST KAREN, I could have ever met. Just a jewel!!
You know her real name is Karen, right?
Karen is a disparaging term. That woman was as pleasant as can be. I’m confused why you used it to describe her.
Hey @justinklein2982... thanks for Visiting Scootopia.
Obviously you did not watch the Video... had you watched you would not have said anything you said.
You are right that she is the sweetest, most enduring Karen I've ever met. As a matter of fact, she and I have seen each other at the park several times and frequently walk and talk together. So now I know her even better since this recording.
I'm sure you read comments or skipped to the end to watch Karen but you had no context.
I hate when people make uninformed comments because they're always wrong in their assumptions.
Karen is actually her real name and you would have known that if you watched the Video because I asked her name and she told me it was Karen during our dialogue.
So to answer your question... I described her as Karen because learning her name she became and remain the sweetest Karen I've ever met on the streets.
With my Videos it is always best to watch before you comment because my discretion are always found within the actual Video.
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@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Of course I watched the entire video. You didn’t mention a “KAREN” (written in BOLD) being in your video until I was alerted to it with your transcribed comment, “Don’t forget to STAY for the end….My experience running into a KAREN” at 15:30 in. Operative word being “A” Karen there. It’s not exactly like it was the title of your video, was it?
But I’m glad to know you weren’t playing on the whole “KAREN” thing, despite you bolding her name, because that was her _actual_ name. I apologize for missing that, but I hope you can understand the confusion on my part, especially given the way you prefaced your interaction.
But with that aside, I agree that we should be SAFE out there, and always wear protective gear, like special helmets, especially when we engage in conversations where we’re overly defensive about using racialized terms in a joke-y way. 😉
@justinklein2982 I don't know where your mindset is or was but you are the ONLY person thinking "racialized" terms. You have taken my statement way out of context because you piece watched the Video and missed important context, thus arriving at YOUR own interpretation that was far from my messaged context.
My preface to watch to the end was just as it implied... and if you had seen my face when I asked her name gleam with the biggest smile after she said "My name is Karen" you would understand the full context and premise.
Everyone on the planet isn't racist, nor think in those terms as you describe. Especially me, if you've watched my videos... or even visit our website you would discover that I have been an Humanitarian since I was 8yrs old (a pure love for ALL Mankind) Helping hundreds of thousands of people around the world and all over the Country become the best version of themselves, creating thousands of millionaires in the process regardless their race, creed, status, looks, and even behavior. I have loved on even the most racist people and those who bad mouth me in ways that others may say they could never do because it is WHO I am.
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Life's too short for this kind of tension especially with such a lovely Karen who has become my good friend.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Well I apologize if I got it wrong, but it sure seemed to me that you were indeed playing on the “KAREN” moniker. But whatever - you’re right, life is too short to make mountains out of molehills. I appreciate the content and wish you nothing but the best. Cheers.
@justinklein2982 likewise my Brother. I appreciate you and wish you nothing but success.
Stay SAFE out there...
Great chanell my man 😊Greetings from Stockholm Sweden and ive seen some of your videos many times now🫵✨⚜️
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Stay SAFE out there Buddy and remember to always GearUP whenever, wherever You Ride
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Can i ask you a question? What is your favorite 🤩 scooter of all the awsome ones you have used?
@@matalden9363 my favorite Scooter is the Dualtron X2 and hopefully soon to be my newest purchase... The Dualtron X Limited.
Stay SAFE out there Buddy.
@@SCOOTOPIAbyOhManDan Thanks a lot my Man🌠😊
@@matalden9363 YW Buddy
Hello Dan, How is the ride quality compared to dtx2? I know they completely different beast. But just wondering if dtx2 ride quality is worth 2x than bluetran?
Do you also have info if minimotors will release dtx3 or dtx2 limited?
Thanks again.
Again, this BlueTran Lightning is a Commuter (very limited in its scope compared to DTX 1 or 2)
The DTX Brand can ONLY be compared with major Power Scooters in its Class. This Scooter is a Commuter with a few bells and whistles but far below the range of a DTX 1 or 2.
The DTX3 should be coming sometime this summer, around August but of course we know those dates are always subject to move later and later.