The lack of OIS and slower aperture might kill it for me. The ZV1 has proven really useful at work where I put together a lot of video of factory machinery running for training and promotional purposes. This often requires being able to shoot quickly and flexibly, so a tripod isn't particularly convenient. I'm often reaching and contorting to get the position and angle I need while handle so the OIS is great, especially if I need to combine it with electronic stabilization. The longer lens is also a welcome addition, as is the wider aperture; I generally treat it like a 2.8 constant because not only is light gathering ability appreciated, but combined with the sensor size it's also the sweet spot for DoF for my use.
Good job. The removal of OIS is a little baffling here and I wonder how many people will do as you said and look for a good deal on a Mk1. From a photography perspective, I'm probably in the minority here but I really want Sony to release a RX100 VIII. The mk VII is about 4 years old now. I know the market is about vlogging but please!
I'd love to see RX100 VIII with faster f2 lens, improved stabilization and retaining the zoom range. Essentially Canon G7 faster lens with RX100 VII zoom. I'd be ok with some lens quality loss at some focal lengths. But almost no new hybrid compact has been released anymore:-(. Everyone is moving towards smartphones & vlogging cameras. There was a rumor years ago about a RX100 VIII with 20-200mm lens. Instead they went with the ZV line it seems.
and then rx100Viii with 18mm, too. 24mm is soo outdated. I shoot so much in ultrawide, 18mm would be such a big value for me for traveling, replacing smartphones ultrawide cam.
The crazy part about what Sony has been doing is that I don't think the vlogging market is even as big as it was even like a year ago. I could be completely wrong but it's not like companies don't make stupid all the time
Yes a RX100 VIII without the useless viewfinder, so it gets cheaper than the latest modells. I had the RX100 III, and i never use the viewfinder, because it was very poor.
Was waiting for the specs on this before deciding if i should go mk 1 or 2. No s-cinetone, no ibis, no bigger battery, no 10 bit. Dont see any reason to get this over the mk 1.
When you find what you like, you stick with it....that explains why so many people have moved over to PetaPixel. You two crazies ARE still the best reviewers out there. Keep on clickin'!!!!
Note for Sony - what you can improve for the ZV-1 Mark III: - strong Optical stabilization (lens and sensor) - More modern sensor: For instance the 50 MP 1" sensor many smartphones use the IMX 989, or the new Exmor T sensor of the Xperia V (yet its smaller size it should be a very powerful sensor in low light). A high resolution sensor would also make better clear image zoom possible and also 4k60 or even 4k120. - 10 bit - almighty S-Cinetone having that, it could be one of the strongest compact VLOGing cameras. I really like compact and versatile cameras, so I really want the ZV-1 to improve. Currently, there are too many drawbacks.
I believe the camera manufactures are getting rid of optical lens stab because they can produce cheaper lenses. The active stab doesn't cost them anything and they can pocket savings and not pass it on to you.
I don't vlog, so sound capture is not as important to me, but if it was important, I would consider the sound quality as unusable without drastic post processing.
Yup, the built-in-mic sequences starting at 02:57 and 06:34 sound like they were recorded off a 1960s wireline telephone. Chris doesn’t seem fazed by it, but seriously…
I think the Mk1 ZV1 was way better than Sony thought it would be. I keep thinking of selling it for a larger camera but I just find it to be so useful time and time again
What’s up with you guys keep changing channels first it was camera-store (something) than Dp-review & now meta-pixel. Well hope this is it & stick around with this channel lol. Always great work.. nice review!
WOW, was this episode hard to watch because of the bird noise. If the intention was to show how poor the mic was at isolating the speaker's voice in front of the camera, you really succeeded. Another great review (as always). Thank you.
Chris, Jordan, so nice to you on PP TH-cam channel. Great review as usual. You two rock! Wow, that built-in audio and poor IBIS stinks. Seems to get the wider angle, this camera needs a gimbal.
Thank you guys, you are the best camera reviewers. I'm still using, from time to time, my 10-years old RX100M2 for stills and occasional videos, that are always noticeably better than shot on my iPhone (Xs Max). I compare those compact cameras to iPhones as those are the ones I can keep in my pocket. So now when I can go for a walk in the forest with my Apple Watch Ultra that replaces as communication device my iPhone I can put in my pocket a compact camera instead. Keep on good job reviewing and comparing!
So its the original ZV1 with a worse lens, a worse mic, USB C, and $150 more expensive? 😒 I sold my Mark1 and my Zv-E10 and got a Lumix S5. Don’t regret my decision and seeing this just re-affirms it.
I think, with the missing OIS the camera isn't that attractive. The ZV-1 is such a good overall camera, that I would still recommend buying the old one, especially considering the price. I would love to have something like an 18-50/70mm F1.8-2.8 in a RX100 body. Canon is able to go for 24-120mm, so why it shouldn't be possible the other way!? Nikon also had an 1" DL with a 18-50mm F1.8-2.8, before it got completely cancelt. So it is possible. Such a shame, that camera never reached the marked. This could've changed the way, Sony developed the ZV-1.
I have the zv1 and absolutely love it I will be sticking with it mark 2 version isn't worth the upgrade tune into your channel regularly keep up the good work
Thank you for addressing all the flaws and important stuff right off the bat. All the other channels was just bla bla bla. This is the main photo channel from now on.
Nikon did 18-50 mm (equiv.) f/1.8-2.8 with the (unfortunately cancelled) DL 18-50. The f/4 aperture on the ZV-1 II is a big lose by Sony. It’s one stop behind. Not the mention the Nikon has Vibration Reduction (Nikon’s way of saying optical image stabilisation).
Considering that there are several 3rd party accessories which allowed the original ZV-1 to get an 18mm equivalent without sacrificing the maximum aperture or the image stabilization, I can't really think of a reason to pick the mark 2 over the mark 1. The Neewer wide-angle adapter in particular also uses a 49mm thread, so you can use the mark 1 in conjunction with ND filters or even polarizing filters.
This was a very confusing release. The lack of OIS and slower aperture is is what really turned me away from the mark II. The first ZV-1 just looks more appealing due to it's brighter lens and the inclusion of OIS. Not totally sure why Sony decided to deal away with the OIS with this one. Other than that, I am glad Sony is continuing to invest in compact cameras.
Still wish they’d put out a new badass photo centric RX100 for us professionals that go places where we can’t take detachable lens cameras.. not into the whole vlog thing they’ve been pushing since Covid.. it would be a good way to release that new crazy sensor used in the phone with the insane dynamic range
@@rsmith02 Absolutlely, Having S-Cinetone would be superdope... I shoot any video and all my single exposure photos in S-Cinetone and bring anything back i need in post
The lack of OIS is such a shame. Also, did you have wind noise reduction on because the audio was terrible. The ZV-E1 sounds like that when it’s turned on.
Jordan, it's the other way round: SLog2 has a greater range than SLog3. You're running into artefact problems with SLog3 more easily with an 8 bit camera like this one because of its limitations. SLog3 is fine with 10 bit cameras as you have more data to play with and it's easier to grade. When I still had my Alpha 6500 as a B camera I always shot in SLog2 to get the best the 6500 had to offer as this was recommended.
I will be sticking with my ZV-1 Mark I In my opinion the 900$ price makes the ZV-1 Mark 2 NOT worth it. In Europe I can get the Sony ZV-E10 and the Sigma 18-50 f2.8 for about 1080 Euro with Tax or 910 Euro if you expense it as a business. And the image and video quality will be much better. The 750-800 price range is OK for an all in-one solution like the ZV-1
I own the zv1 and I didn’t think the audio was as bad as the new one. The audio from the zv mk2 doesn’t sound too good at all to me. I want the lumix s5 mooing after seeing this video.
I thought the leaks are being too generous with 18-70mm. This is more in line with how Sony will do everything to keep their 1" From being competitive with their bigger sensors.
I want to thank Sony for blessing us with this tremendous upgrade. Love the fact that they removed the unnecessary lens stabilization, gave us a Sennheiser MKH 416 level audio quality and all that for a modest 25% price increase. Truly remarkable!
Thank you, my dear friend, for the beautiful Mboxing and the wonderful performance. Sony is a giant company in this field Your love from the Middle East ❤❤❤
Given its price, it makes the Xperia 1M5 a better deal. The latter has S-CineStone, 4K120P, real-time tracking and Product ShowCase. The focus length covers 16mm - 125mm.
Biggest update for me is the USB C, the red recording ring around the screen and being able to swap batteries without removing camera from the tripod, the camera would be perfect if it was 10-70mm zoom. PS I use a Sony ZV E10 with a 10-18mm lens as my main camera, and the Sony ZV 1 ii is my B camera and EDC Camera.
9:15 That was only for the first year. After that, the ZV-1 did not need the sony software anymore and now can be used as a webcam in OBS, Teams & Co. just like the ZV-1 Mark II.
Why does Sony keep omitting lens stabilization on the stuff they target towards vlogger's? They did it with their new wide angle lens too and it drives me crazy and makes absolutely no sense! Crrrrrrrazy
Well, the sound quality on that camera would be perfect for reporting on the Hindenburg next time it docks in NJ you would get the 1930's sound vibe automatically. Oh the humanity!
Here is an interesting comparison. The New ZV-1 II with 18-50 mm (FF equivalent) lens has been priced at 900$. But if you look at Nikon, they have a Z-30 body which is priced at 600 currently. And a 12-28 mm (18-42 mm FF eq.) lens priced at 350! The whole setup will cost around 950! The lens has 4.5 stops of optical IS which sony one doesn’t. It has better battery. You can interchange lenses when you need. And because it's an apsc, the image quality will be better & better low light performance. If I have the budget around 900, I think it's better to go with the nikon.
I use a pair of ZV1s I was interested to see if this was a worthwhile upgrade and it does not look like it. I use the Neewer wide angle adaptor on my primary camera and the secondary has a 52mm thread adaptor for filters or to use the ulanzi lense if need although I really dont like how that just hangs off a taped on 52mm ring. Seems like there would really be zero point in me getting one of these but I am sort of hoping they make a ZVE10mk2. That would get me tempted.
Dang it sony if you’re not gonna do optical or sensor stabilized then make the lens 14mm on wide end so we can still have wider view using digital stabilization
Having not bought a ZV1 yet I was waiting to see what the MkII spec was like. The loss of stabilisation doesn’t worry me and the wider lens would be handy but if the price has been increased I simply don’t see where they’ve added value and will seek out an old one.
15 months ago I paid 620 USD for the ZV-1. There is still a long way to go for the Mark II. Actually, Nikon had the idea to release 3 DL cameras with 1 inch sensor and one with a 18-50mm lens but f/1.8-2.8. That was 6 years ago. Now we're finally getting that range of focal lengths, but with a lot of caveats and an absurdly high suggested retail price.
Its actually called the Vloggers camera mark II so you are the first one I watched that I will actually wait for my camera to come in hand to see how the hype is. thank you after fully watching. to again go backwards on a new camera taking away the OIS is going to be a Deal breaker, I may just continue to use my Sony Vloggers camera 1 F and wait on the 3rd generation Sony ZV-1M3
Well what can I say I think this is a well informed review I am not in the market for a vlog camera but I liked the video and I kept watching to the end
I am actually relieved this isn’t a major upgrade, as I just bought a ZV1 at the end of last year. I was imagining some massive upgrade. This isn’t that. To be honest, I’d rather have a faster lens than a wider one. The F4 is a weird compromise but I get it for size. They had to trade speed for focal length. I use my ZV1 for capturing family (like a camcorder) and for TH-cam stuff (usually on a tripod), and I rarely vlog selfie style, so I’m good for now. Still, this is a great camera if you don’t already have a ZV1. The touch screen is really a nice feature that I wish the ZV1 had.
9:15 With the original Sony ZV1 the updated firmware released in 2021 version 2.0 there is no software from Sony needed for streaming. April 2021 was version 2.01 I know it has been a very long time since you 2 have used the Sony ZV1, just so viewers know this Sony software video streaming requirement has been done away with 2 years ago.
I believe that keeping sound levels low in your videos was the true reason behind the end of DPreview. And you didn't learn guys. Take it with a bit of humor :)
Having thought about this for a while I think what we're seeing here is a company that knows how critical reliable autofocus is, knows that it absolutely owns the market in that area, and simply isn't bothered about adding anything else. If Panasonic overhauled their autofocus so that it was as good as this, I'm convinced they'd clean up.
Thanks for your video guys. Happy to see you again. To the camera, honestly, I don't know if I would need the camera. There are so many options. I could use my Smartphone, a GoPro, a ZV-E1, a FX-30, and so on... Why should I buy that camera? It's tough to compare all these options these days....
The internal mic sounds strange in your test 3:03. It's like a low-pass filter was enabled or finger covered the camera mic. I think you guys received a bad demo unit.
The MkII is a great advertisement for the MkI. Sony doesn’t take this camera seriously. Optical stabilization was important in the 1990s camcorders and still is today. That and the other features removed is not made up by a lens more useful on only one end of the range. And I’m sorry, but consumer video will not need a 20MP sensor. Brings more problems than it solved.
For this price I rather get the Xperia 1 V. S-Cinetone, better stabilisation and convenience to edit and upload your vlog directly on device + 4k60fps and even 4k120fps
16-50mm with great IBIS would have been much better but I'm no engineer so idk. I'll pass on this one for now until Sony's R&D can get there. $900 is too much also.
Hmmm... Looking for something for hiking videos; vlogs & product reviews I am debating this Sony camera or the DJI Osmo Action 4. I like this because it has the zoom & has more blurred out background. But, the f/4 is a bit sad The lack of waterproofness may also be an issue
No OIS and such a slow aperture is surprising for $900; it would have been better to keep a brighter and stabilized lens at eay 18-35mm equivalent if corners were to be cut.
I wish they provided a firmware update for the original ZV-1, which I love as a general purpose cam for taking photos. It would be great as a street cam with two additions: 1. Set shutter speed in S-mode to be minimum shutter speed, so it can go higher if needed. 2. In photo mode, use the big red button to toggle between P and S. (or whatever modes one likes to have quick access to)
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I appreciate Sony not publishing products that make me want to replace gear of theirs that I already own. Thanks, SonyBro.
Me too. We can keep our ZV-1
100% again, very disappointed. and they took away the super slow motion capability.. that is one of the most fun features of the ZV-1!!!!
Keeping my ZV-1 and A7Riii
@@RichardoBrit the same two here!
Casey will have hours of content.
The lack of OIS and slower aperture might kill it for me. The ZV1 has proven really useful at work where I put together a lot of video of factory machinery running for training and promotional purposes. This often requires being able to shoot quickly and flexibly, so a tripod isn't particularly convenient. I'm often reaching and contorting to get the position and angle I need while handle so the OIS is great, especially if I need to combine it with electronic stabilization. The longer lens is also a welcome addition, as is the wider aperture; I generally treat it like a 2.8 constant because not only is light gathering ability appreciated, but combined with the sensor size it's also the sweet spot for DoF for my use.
How can we make the camera better for the MKII?
Marketing: Who said the new one must be better?
Good job. The removal of OIS is a little baffling here and I wonder how many people will do as you said and look for a good deal on a Mk1.
From a photography perspective, I'm probably in the minority here but I really want Sony to release a RX100 VIII. The mk VII is about 4 years old now. I know the market is about vlogging but please!
I refused to buy a Mark VII because it doesn’t charge with USB-C. If it has USB-C I would have picked it up in an instant
I'd love to see RX100 VIII with faster f2 lens, improved stabilization and retaining the zoom range. Essentially Canon G7 faster lens with RX100 VII zoom. I'd be ok with some lens quality loss at some focal lengths. But almost no new hybrid compact has been released anymore:-(. Everyone is moving towards smartphones & vlogging cameras.
There was a rumor years ago about a RX100 VIII with 20-200mm lens. Instead they went with the ZV line it seems.
and then rx100Viii with 18mm, too. 24mm is soo outdated. I shoot so much in ultrawide, 18mm would be such a big value for me for traveling, replacing smartphones ultrawide cam.
The crazy part about what Sony has been doing is that I don't think the vlogging market is even as big as it was even like a year ago. I could be completely wrong but it's not like companies don't make stupid all the time
Yes a RX100 VIII without the useless viewfinder, so it gets cheaper than the latest modells. I had the RX100 III, and i never use the viewfinder, because it was very poor.
The mic sounds like an old time walkie talkie... The ZV-1 is a great camera, not sure they gave it enough for an upgrade.
Sounded AWFUL. What a joke.
It makes no sense for them to have used such garbage sound, any couple of dollar chinese mic sounds better than that
@@PrimalShutter Actually the mic on the Zv1 OG is not bad, I have no idea why it sounded that way on their review.
@@jkhollywood Maybe the sound was behind the camera and they had it on rear ? Other videos showed better sound.
It is a tough one but I am happy with ZV-1 which I can attach extension ultra-wide angle lens (third party) to make it around 18-20mm with OIS
Was waiting for the specs on this before deciding if i should go mk 1 or 2. No s-cinetone, no ibis, no bigger battery, no 10 bit. Dont see any reason to get this over the mk 1.
💯 The swapped the optical stabilization for wider focal range.That's about it.
@@misterabroad123 it's not a fair tradeoff for me
+ the MK2 is more expensive 🤣
Sony.. why.. No OIS is such a f'n fail. And the mic sucks ass. Shit.. This was supposed to be the perfect camera.
agreed
When you find what you like, you stick with it....that explains why so many people have moved over to PetaPixel. You two crazies ARE still the best reviewers out there. Keep on clickin'!!!!
I was literally looking for a point and shoot for my partner to use during travel and couldn’t find anything wide, this is perfect now!
Note for Sony - what you can improve for the ZV-1 Mark III:
- strong Optical stabilization (lens and sensor)
- More modern sensor: For instance the 50 MP 1" sensor many smartphones use the IMX 989, or the new Exmor T sensor of the Xperia V (yet its smaller size it should be a very powerful sensor in low light). A high resolution sensor would also make better clear image zoom possible and also 4k60 or even 4k120.
- 10 bit
- almighty S-Cinetone
having that, it could be one of the strongest compact VLOGing cameras. I really like compact and versatile cameras, so I really want the ZV-1 to improve. Currently, there are too many drawbacks.
I believe the camera manufactures are getting rid of optical lens stab because they can produce cheaper lenses. The active stab doesn't cost them anything and they can pocket savings and not pass it on to you.
Actually, a video-centric camera it should have less megapixels. 12Mp is more than enough for 4K.
I don't vlog, so sound capture is not as important to me, but if it was important, I would consider the sound quality as unusable without drastic post processing.
The birds squawking in this video filmed by the lake was really something
Yup, the built-in-mic sequences starting at 02:57 and 06:34 sound like they were recorded off a 1960s wireline telephone. Chris doesn’t seem fazed by it, but seriously…
I think the Mk1 ZV1 was way better than Sony thought it would be. I keep thinking of selling it for a larger camera but I just find it to be so useful time and time again
What’s up with you guys keep changing channels first it was camera-store (something) than Dp-review & now meta-pixel. Well hope this is it & stick around with this channel lol. Always great work.. nice review!
WOW, was this episode hard to watch because of the bird noise. If the intention was to show how poor the mic was at isolating the speaker's voice in front of the camera, you really succeeded. Another great review (as always). Thank you.
Chris, Jordan, so nice to you on PP TH-cam channel. Great review as usual. You two rock! Wow, that built-in audio and poor IBIS stinks. Seems to get the wider angle, this camera needs a gimbal.
Thank you guys, you are the best camera reviewers. I'm still using, from time to time, my 10-years old RX100M2 for stills and occasional videos, that are always noticeably better than shot on my iPhone (Xs Max). I compare those compact cameras to iPhones as those are the ones I can keep in my pocket. So now when I can go for a walk in the forest with my Apple Watch Ultra that replaces as communication device my iPhone I can put in my pocket a compact camera instead. Keep on good job reviewing and comparing!
So its the original ZV1 with a worse lens, a worse mic, USB C, and $150 more expensive?
😒
I sold my Mark1 and my Zv-E10 and got a Lumix S5. Don’t regret my decision and seeing this just re-affirms it.
That's a great decision, Sony doesn't care about any of their entry-level products.
the microphone on this camera sounds so bad made my ears hurt
The onboard mic’s cacophony of maddness really sends it home.
Those birds though 😂 we don’t see them, but damn we hear them!
I think, with the missing OIS the camera isn't that attractive. The ZV-1 is such a good overall camera, that I would still recommend buying the old one, especially considering the price. I would love to have something like an 18-50/70mm F1.8-2.8 in a RX100 body. Canon is able to go for 24-120mm, so why it shouldn't be possible the other way!? Nikon also had an 1" DL with a 18-50mm F1.8-2.8, before it got completely cancelt. So it is possible. Such a shame, that camera never reached the marked. This could've changed the way, Sony developed the ZV-1.
I have the zv1 and absolutely love it I will be sticking with it mark 2 version isn't worth the upgrade tune into your channel regularly keep up the good work
Thank you for addressing all the flaws and important stuff right off the bat. All the other channels was just bla bla bla. This is the main photo channel from now on.
Microphone sounds awful. Did you guys forget to turn off low cut?
the release of this mark 2 solidified my decision to purchase the mark 1
Nikon did 18-50 mm (equiv.) f/1.8-2.8 with the (unfortunately cancelled) DL 18-50. The f/4 aperture on the ZV-1 II is a big lose by Sony. It’s one stop behind. Not the mention the Nikon has Vibration Reduction (Nikon’s way of saying optical image stabilisation).
Does it have build-in ND? How is apeture fall-off along zoom range?
It does have 1/8 ND according to Sony specs.
Considering that there are several 3rd party accessories which allowed the original ZV-1 to get an 18mm equivalent without sacrificing the maximum aperture or the image stabilization, I can't really think of a reason to pick the mark 2 over the mark 1.
The Neewer wide-angle adapter in particular also uses a 49mm thread, so you can use the mark 1 in conjunction with ND filters or even polarizing filters.
Wow. I have the ZV1 and this thing is a downgrade. What are they thinking?
They weren’t. Hahah
Great video as always. New lens seems like a sidestep, if not a downgrade. Built-in mics sound pretty raunchy too. What happened there?
Pretty unusable microphones indeed!
@@emilinhocorneta Only vid I've watched so far where they sound good is Mark Bennet's. Weird. Need to check out more coverage.
This was a very confusing release. The lack of OIS and slower aperture is is what really turned me away from the mark II. The first ZV-1 just looks more appealing due to it's brighter lens and the inclusion of OIS. Not totally sure why Sony decided to deal away with the OIS with this one. Other than that, I am glad Sony is continuing to invest in compact cameras.
Still wish they’d put out a new badass photo centric RX100 for us professionals that go places where we can’t take detachable lens cameras.. not into the whole vlog thing they’ve been pushing since Covid.. it would be a good way to release that new crazy sensor used in the phone with the insane dynamic range
Completely agree. I still use my IV and would appreciate a new version with fast lens and better video features like faster readout in 4K or 10-bit.
@@rsmith02 Absolutlely, Having S-Cinetone would be superdope... I shoot any video and all my single exposure photos in S-Cinetone and bring anything back i need in post
The lack of OIS is such a shame. Also, did you have wind noise reduction on because the audio was terrible. The ZV-E1 sounds like that when it’s turned on.
Jordan, it's the other way round: SLog2 has a greater range than SLog3. You're running into artefact problems with SLog3 more easily with an 8 bit camera like this one because of its limitations. SLog3 is fine with 10 bit cameras as you have more data to play with and it's easier to grade. When I still had my Alpha 6500 as a B camera I always shot in SLog2 to get the best the 6500 had to offer as this was recommended.
I love my ZV1. Gonna keep it for now, along with my A7Siii and A7R5. 😀
I will be sticking with my ZV-1 Mark I
In my opinion the 900$ price makes the ZV-1 Mark 2 NOT worth it.
In Europe I can get the Sony ZV-E10 and the Sigma 18-50 f2.8 for about 1080 Euro with Tax or 910 Euro if you expense it as a business.
And the image and video quality will be much better.
The 750-800 price range is OK for an all in-one solution like the ZV-1
Also they mention streaming requiring Sony software... That had be updated in firmware 2.0 back in 2021 which no longer required special software.
I own the zv1 and I didn’t think the audio was as bad as the new one. The audio from the zv mk2 doesn’t sound too good at all to me. I want the lumix s5 mooing after seeing this video.
I thought the leaks are being too generous with 18-70mm. This is more in line with how Sony will do everything to keep their 1" From being competitive with their bigger sensors.
Chris and Jordan are worth their weight in nocts! :D
Time to find a good used GM1 or GM5 and slap the Olympus 9-18 lens on it. Man, I miss the small MFT camera era
glad you guys are still doing reviews!
I want to thank Sony for blessing us with this tremendous upgrade. Love the fact that they removed the unnecessary lens stabilization, gave us a Sennheiser MKH 416 level audio quality and all that for a modest 25% price increase. Truly remarkable!
Hilarious!
Second Sony camera of the year that doesn’t make sense
Thank you, my dear friend, for the beautiful Mboxing and the wonderful performance. Sony is a giant company in this field Your love from the Middle East
❤❤❤
Given its price, it makes the Xperia 1M5 a better deal. The latter has S-CineStone, 4K120P, real-time tracking and Product ShowCase. The focus length covers 16mm - 125mm.
Just got a deal on one of these used for $500. I really like it’s a lot of fun
Biggest update for me is the USB C, the red recording ring around the screen and being able to swap batteries without removing camera from the tripod, the camera would be perfect if it was 10-70mm zoom. PS I use a Sony ZV E10 with a 10-18mm lens as my main camera, and the Sony ZV 1 ii is my B camera and EDC Camera.
That's some of the worst in camera audio I've heard in a while.
Seriously. It sounds worse than normal built in mics. Wasn’t sure if this was a joke.
Love the videos! Keep them coming and really enjoying PetaPixel!
Looks like sony borrowed Canon's cripple hammer for this..
Loving the work as always guys. Keep it up.
You guys are doing a great job! I always look forward to your videos.
9:15 That was only for the first year. After that, the ZV-1 did not need the sony software anymore and now can be used as a webcam in OBS, Teams & Co. just like the ZV-1 Mark II.
F4? How does this do in nighttime? I normally don’t go above F2.8 at night.
Another quality video guys!
Why does Sony keep omitting lens stabilization on the stuff they target towards vlogger's? They did it with their new wide angle lens too and it drives me crazy and makes absolutely no sense! Crrrrrrrazy
look at those jittery, remind me of EIS in my pocophone F3 while shooting low light videos
Well, the sound quality on that camera would be perfect for reporting on the Hindenburg next time it docks in NJ you would get the 1930's sound vibe automatically. Oh the humanity!
Here is an interesting comparison.
The New ZV-1 II with 18-50 mm (FF equivalent) lens has been priced at 900$.
But if you look at Nikon, they have a Z-30 body which is priced at 600 currently. And a 12-28 mm (18-42 mm FF eq.) lens priced at 350! The whole setup will cost around 950! The lens has 4.5 stops of optical IS which sony one doesn’t. It has better battery. You can interchange lenses when you need. And because it's an apsc, the image quality will be better & better low light performance.
If I have the budget around 900, I think it's better to go with the nikon.
1:05 thought you guys were in Egypt for a minute 😂
I love my pro master lights
I use a pair of ZV1s I was interested to see if this was a worthwhile upgrade and it does not look like it. I use the Neewer wide angle adaptor on my primary camera and the secondary has a 52mm thread adaptor for filters or to use the ulanzi lense if need although I really dont like how that just hangs off a taped on 52mm ring.
Seems like there would really be zero point in me getting one of these but I am sort of hoping they make a ZVE10mk2. That would get me tempted.
Dang it sony if you’re not gonna do optical or sensor stabilized then make the lens 14mm on wide end so we can still have wider view using digital stabilization
Egypt ! Big budget location shoots. Nice
Having not bought a ZV1 yet I was waiting to see what the MkII spec was like. The loss of stabilisation doesn’t worry me and the wider lens would be handy but if the price has been increased I simply don’t see where they’ve added value and will seek out an old one.
They should have inbuilt stabilization and dji microphonr
15 months ago I paid 620 USD for the ZV-1. There is still a long way to go for the Mark II. Actually, Nikon had the idea to release 3 DL cameras with 1 inch sensor and one with a 18-50mm lens but f/1.8-2.8. That was 6 years ago. Now we're finally getting that range of focal lengths, but with a lot of caveats and an absurdly high suggested retail price.
Interesting tradeoffs instead of it just being improvements...
Thanks so much for sharing another wonderful video like always, two videos in on day ❤️👍🤗
Its actually called the Vloggers camera mark II so you are the first one I watched that I will actually wait for my camera to come in hand to see how the hype is. thank you after fully watching. to again go backwards on a new camera taking away the OIS is going to be a Deal breaker, I may just continue to use my Sony Vloggers camera 1 F and wait on the 3rd generation Sony ZV-1M3
Was just about to get the ZV1 Mark1, then this dropped today. So now I have decisions to make.
was thinking of getting another Fujifilm X-H2 but now considering 2 of these instead
The bugs are the star in this one… the touch screen new menu is the best thing. Not going to upgrade though
Best vlogging marketing toy
Been looking forward to this camera for a long time
Great video Chris and Jorda!
Probably very useful for bedroom vloging. Just need a tripod.
Well what can I say I think this is a well informed review I am not in the market for a vlog camera but I liked the video and I kept watching to the end
I’m gonna wait to have money for my Canon R7. Thanks!
What the ZV-1F SHOULD have been. Now waiting on ZV3.
I am actually relieved this isn’t a major upgrade, as I just bought a ZV1 at the end of last year. I was imagining some massive upgrade. This isn’t that. To be honest, I’d rather have a faster lens than a wider one. The F4 is a weird compromise but I get it for size. They had to trade speed for focal length. I use my ZV1 for capturing family (like a camcorder) and for TH-cam stuff (usually on a tripod), and I rarely vlog selfie style, so I’m good for now. Still, this is a great camera if you don’t already have a ZV1. The touch screen is really a nice feature that I wish the ZV1 had.
You should compare to other camera manufacturers. Like does Canon, Nikon, OM, Lumix do something sub 1K?
Nikon Z30
Was waiting for this or the Fuji XS20. Just bought the XS20.
9:15 With the original Sony ZV1 the updated firmware released in 2021 version 2.0 there is no software from Sony needed for streaming. April 2021 was version 2.01
I know it has been a very long time since you 2 have used the Sony ZV1, just so viewers know this Sony software video streaming requirement has been done away with 2 years ago.
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Haha wut did i do?? 😅
I believe that keeping sound levels low in your videos was the true reason behind the end of DPreview. And you didn't learn guys. Take it with a bit of humor :)
Having thought about this for a while I think what we're seeing here is a company that knows how critical reliable autofocus is, knows that it absolutely owns the market in that area, and simply isn't bothered about adding anything else. If Panasonic overhauled their autofocus so that it was as good as this, I'm convinced they'd clean up.
Thanks for your video guys. Happy to see you again.
To the camera, honestly, I don't know if I would need the camera. There are so many options. I could use my Smartphone, a GoPro, a ZV-E1, a FX-30, and so on... Why should I buy that camera? It's tough to compare all these options these days....
The internal mic sounds strange in your test 3:03. It's like a low-pass filter was enabled or finger covered the camera mic. I think you guys received a bad demo unit.
Very detailed review thats easy to understand
The MkII is a great advertisement for the MkI.
Sony doesn’t take this camera seriously. Optical stabilization was important in the 1990s camcorders and still is today.
That and the other features removed is not made up by a lens more useful on only one end of the range.
And I’m sorry, but consumer video will not need a 20MP sensor. Brings more problems than it solved.
For this price I rather get the Xperia 1 V. S-Cinetone, better stabilisation and convenience to edit and upload your vlog directly on device + 4k60fps and even 4k120fps
Oh oh, danger alert.
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16-50mm with great IBIS would have been much better but I'm no engineer so idk. I'll pass on this one for now until Sony's R&D can get there. $900 is too much also.
Hmmm... Looking for something for hiking videos; vlogs & product reviews
I am debating this Sony camera or the DJI Osmo Action 4.
I like this because it has the zoom & has more blurred out background. But, the f/4 is a bit sad
The lack of waterproofness may also be an issue
FINALLY less than 23mm -> 18mm in a compact cam! wow
You gotta really the smaller form factor to buy this over the zv-e10
No OIS and such a slow aperture is surprising for $900; it would have been better to keep a brighter and stabilized lens at eay 18-35mm equivalent if corners were to be cut.
I wish they provided a firmware update for the original ZV-1, which I love as a general purpose cam for taking photos. It would be great as a street cam with two additions:
1. Set shutter speed in S-mode to be minimum shutter speed, so it can go higher if needed.
2. In photo mode, use the big red button to toggle between P and S. (or whatever modes one likes to have quick access to)