Maybe. But the handling in WRC is infinitely better and it has a proper career mode and much better stages. Tarmac doesn't feel slippy and weird anymore and that alone is a massive upgrade.
Honestly the WRC game looks more true to life where as the dr2 looks like more like a movie cinematic scene. Like sense of speed, no I don't need excessive motion blur to make it look like I'm going 120mph when I'm really barely hitting 60mph... that's immersion braking. Extremely hard shadows in dr2 versus the more soft realistic shadows in wrc. I get it if you want overblown unrealistic visuals, sure than dr2 checks those boxes, but if you want a more realistic and immersive experience than wrc is where it's at.
Sorry, but the older DR2.0 looks like the nicer package... Raineffects on the car windows, the feel of the speed... Hope that they would fix the little probs in the new WRC title...
DR2.0 has way to much overblown visual dynamics. I get its cinematic but it's not realistic and kinda kills immersion. Plus the environmental detail past the tree line is where DR2 really shows its age. Give me soft and realistic shadows over super hard and jarring transitions between light and shade any day. I will say the bug with the snow falling and looking like leds on the floor in wrc looks terrible but besides that the winter particles look way better. For example, snow doesn't disappear because headlights aren't shining on them like what happens in dr2. They could of gone crazy with lumen and nanites but as there is still a large console market I understand trying to make it somewhat performant on mid-low end hardware. Also I'm a driver in rally games not a camera so why all the sun spots and weird camera artifacts from light in dr2 kills the immersion to sell visual fluff.
@@andrewfetter4843 DR2 is superior in every way. EA WRC is a big disappointment. Everyone is saying so, except the EA employees. You may have some points, seeing that DR2 wasn’t perfect, but EA WRC is a huge step backwards. Codemasters should have never sold to EA.
@@andrewfetter4843 puedes desactivarlos en la configuracion grafica, osea que hay que quitarle efectos visuales y luego lo vendes como un juego nuevo, algo asi me parece ridiculo, prefiero cuando un juego evoluciona y no al reves
@@andrewfetter4843 "Also I'm a driver in rally games not a camera so why all the sun spots and weird camera artifacts from light in dr2 kills the immersion to sell visual fluff." You're watching the game through a camera, it makes sense that the game simulates camera effects, especially in third person views. Why the visual fluff? Because the game looks better, and more interesting. I honestly don't care if "it's not realistic", it's an entertainment product first and foremost, so I want to enjoy looking at it. EA WRC is a stuttery, blurry mess, and on top of that it looks dull, washed out and uninteresting. It's beyond "soulless", it lacks an artistic vision and direction, it looks like it's been made just because they had to (and probably, that's the truth).
I mean sure dr2 looks pretty with the overblown vfx but it doesn't look realistic lol. Wrc looks more realistic which means it's less stylized and boring so people are giving it shit even though it's more realistic.
@@andrewfetter4843 You’re right in some ways, but even real life looks better than EA WRC, and real life is bland! We play games to escape real life. Game companies should know this by now. I actually think codemasters just got lazy after the buyout. When their game bombs they’ll get the message and maybe make enjoyable games again.
I also really like the Subaru in Rallysimfans' RBR. Something about the sound dynamics when going up and down the revs that I don't think I ever heard in any other game really.
Dirt Rally 2.0 was way too graphically advanced for it's time... sorry but when it came out it literally broke 90% of the GPUs of the time... I play DR 2.0 on an RX 6900XT and have frame drops to under 100fps on 1440p... which means it's a very demanding game... why did people expect some huge graphical uplift I don't understand... the same will be done when the F1 games change engine and everyone will expect unreasonable things and we'll have the same whining... EA WRC also looks bad in videos because of it's bad performance... playing 4k ultra settings REQUIRES an RTX 4090... even the 4080 gets trashed by it... when this game performs better and they fix the issues then you can compare it fairly... Anyway, I like good graphics but what I love about this WRC game is it's gameplay... it's massively better than DR 2.0...
@@jenilistamustika8376 Let me tell you the issue and why it won't be fixed. They obviously wanted to make vegitation look "alive" etc and the only engine that is capable of doing it well is Unreal. However the problem is that unreal engine is really really bad at rendering too many things very very fast because of how detailed it is... if you play ACC for example which uses UE 4 try doing hotlaps alone on track... you get something insane like 150-200 fps... then try setting a race with other cars where UE4 needs to render the car models... with 20 cars on track those 200FPS go down to 90FPS in a hearbeat... In Rallying that there is so much crap around the stage (trees, rocks, houses, fences, crowd etc etc etc) if you try to push UE to be super detailed the performance will be utter garbage... Anyway, Rally games are the hardest racing games to balance in terms of performance because the environment detail needs to be paired with the insane speed at which this environment comes and goes as you speed through the woods...
@@nikosfotidas8543 I think the problem during races in ACC is that ACC fully simulates the physics for each AI car, that's why you have huge fps drops that you don't have during solo hotlaps. (Usually racing sims use a much more simplified physics for AI cars to lower CPU usage).
@thepessimisticgamer91 EA WRC's physics are slightly better than DR 2.0's - specially on the icy and snowy roads of Monte Carlo, in which we have less grip now, which is more realistic. Still, both are arcade-ish.
The shading and lighting looks terrible in this game compared to DR 2.0 but mostly in sunny weather, at night it doesn't look so bad. The switch to Unreal Engine was certainly a good one in terms of the game's capabilities, but so far it looks much worse than on Ego Engine. The game presents very uneven visuals.
It was like that in all the wrc games. We always said that... Way to bright. We won't get a next dirt rally game..wrc will be a yearly launch with low effort.. F1, fifa are the same. Sad... In the past we could choose.. Thanks to EA we don't have options anymore. As a rally fan it's a sad evolution. I prefer a good game every 5 years.. Now we're getting another greedy EA game.. The next wrc will have a lot of microtransactions...EA didn't wanted to risk it this year cause of a new launch... Be ready for wrc 24/25/26/27/28...all the same...paying for a game... Live service game....microtransactions, season passes and so on, monetizing everything...💰💰💰
@@Followyourpassions don’t forget every year, pc preview builds/demos, that work great for you-tubers with state of the art computers to promote the game miss leading all the pre order and day one purchase people.
I 'eed to change my opinion. EA wrc is a great game. Playing it' now. Stages are amazing. The handling. I just adjusted the brightness in game to 5. It's better compared to dirt 2.0. Really amazed by it. I'm playing on ps5. Zero issues. Ffb on dd pro is great. Better compared to dirt 2.0 . The amount of content is insane. I'm falling in love 😁.
I'm seriously confused by comments like this.....do you ever go outside? When's the last time you had sun spots in your vision as if you were a camera lense? WRC just has toned down the excessive lighting vfx to more realistic dynamics compared to dirt. It looks way better imo
I think WRC will look great after a few updates but after playing 90 minutes, it feels like there's quite a bit to tidy up. I used to play Dirt 2.0 in VR so im amazed at how that looks on max settings
@@ciarancrowley2516 I had an Oculus Rift for the past 6+ years but it died last week. Now i have a Quest 3 but haven't put any real time into driving with it yet. But it's a good step up in clarity from my old headset now for sure. There's more expensive options like the Valve Index but i like the idea of being able to game wirelessly too with the quest 3.
If you notice, some details look better in DR 2.0, like how the snow falling appears only when you turn on the lights, the backfires are more "realistic" and vivid. But overall, looks good for a game built in lesse time than ideal and in a new engine.
its built on the same assets previous wrc games were made of. its just ugly, soulless unnatural in every way possible. no wonder engine called UNreal. yeah they partly moved dr2 physics to wrc, but made it more arcady in many aspects
Snow does not disappear when head lights are not shining on them.... have you ever experienced it at all? If you called out the almost led effect they had when landing on the ground I'd agree that needs a touch up. The back fire is way to over exposed in dr2 and makes it feel like your playing nfs. In general the reason people are saying dr2 looks better is because they went for a more dramatic cinematic style which kills immersion and the realism of the graphics. Now with the wrc title focusing more on true to life visuals your sad your missing things like sun spots that only appear on a camera when you are supposed to be a human driver with you know eyes not a camera... it's one thing to say you like more stylized vfx than realistic ones but to act like the graphics are shit is just nonsense.
Dirt 2.0 wins by a mile I played them both today. No where F near it… game feels like it was made by unhappy codemasters team with EA breathing down there necks to complete on a small budget… like in the first trailer * this is marginal gains * EA Easter egg Too me personally it’s a step back and we should not support it sadly I did and I wish I didn’t. So just be aware
@@Silentpartner2176 Don't listen to idiots... I bought WRC... it has performance issues but the gameplay is a MASSIVE upgrade from DR 2.0... I have over 1500hrs on DR 2.0... this is flat out better in every way... way more realistic physics, better stages, better modes, great fun career mode, car builder is fun... overall it's really REALLY good... First of all finally cars don't need you to pull the handbrake on every turn lower than a 2 to be fast... real rally drivers don't work the handbrake as much as people think... they use the BRAKES to slide the car... anyway, this new WRC game is simply AMAZING.. if you love rallying, buy it... it's a no brainer...
I actually re-installed Generations again last night. I did a one on one comparison on PS5 and WRC looks significantly better. BUT…..not better than DIRT Rally 2.0!!!!! WRC is apperently next gen only. It looks worse than a previous incarnation on lesser hardware on a previous generation though. Dirt Rally 2.0 to Dirt Rally was even a large graphical step forward in the same generation. This is a five year development cycle and new, much improved hardware and it looks inferior in many ways. What bothers me even more is that I find the track layouts uninspiring, barren, boring and generic. For instance Monte Carlo is almost a.i. generated like it is done with the trackbuilder in Dirt5. The uphill righthand corners keep repeating themselves in exactly the same way. It is like driving the same road for 17 km’s. Trackside details, elevation (like the Turkey track in Kileton’s efforts) etc. are all substantially lesser implemented than in Generations and even Codemasters’ own Dirt Rally 2.0.
Best news this evening for me: We’ve issued the refund to the payment provider. You should see a credit or see the original charge removed from your statement within 14 days.
WRC is quantity over quality, the sheer amount of roads at launch is mind boggling. For context, Dirt rally and 2.0 both launched with 6 rally locations with 2 long 10km stages each. WRC has 17 countries with up to 30km stages thanks to the move to Unreal Engine.
DR2 is visually lightyears ahead. WRC-G is also better than EA-WRC. Can't speak about handling and gameplay, i own only DR2 and WRC-G. I have the feeling they nerfed graphics in order to make it run smooth in VR even with low-mid hardware. A PS3 could run this visuals. Let's not joke.
The cockpit of that Subaru is completely different in WRC. DR 2.0 they nailed it but needlessly changed it for WRC. No idea why they thought it was a smart move in any way.
All of the cockpits are new, all from real recordings, previously they were faked. Some sound better than others, but the ones that do sound good sound exceptional.
I tried both and overall DR2 is the winner imo. It's like food - Ingredients and taste is worth more than the presentation of it. A fancy plate can't save mediocre food. WRC feels like you're not really connected to the car, while in DR2 you instantly become one with it. The graphics is overall better in WRC, but that's just not enough to take the throne. I Have a suspicion that EA chose controller compatibility at the cost of less simulation for maximum profit. Good for those not having wheel and pedals, but not for me. I prefer hardcore simracing.
I can't believe how EA WRC is a step backwards in virtually every way yet it's running on next gen hardware. The only racing game to me that truely utalises the power of PS5 is Granturismo 7 but lets face it it is stunning on PS4. I am happy playing on PS4 until we get truely get next gen games and sony now releasing the PS5 pro , it's a joke. So glad that people post these kind of videos but not happy when their money has been wasted ! Nice touch at the end with Granturismo !
EA Wrc is WRC generations 2.0 All the "EA content creator network" people have been selling this like was the evolution of DR 2.0, shame on them. The new game look nice, and can be as fun as WRC generations was. But miles away of the fun in DR 2.0 (and of course nothing like realism of RBR) Wasted oportunity of make a great game.
I have only played dirt rally 2, as my pc is not fresh enough to play WRC 23. However, it seems (visually) that DR 2.0 is better! I really hope for some updates for WRC 23 by the time I'm able to play it, but for some reason I don't think that will be the case... :(
Visually WRC is more realistic, DR2 is just more stylized. Which if that's your preference then cool, play games like nfs and the like that excell in that department. I don't get the obsession with trying to emulate fake vfx from the cinema into something that's supposed to simulate a real life experience for immersion.
@@andrewfetter4843 WRC dosn't look "realistic" at all, dirt/splash particles are static, trees and grass models aren't breezing, cars barely have any dirt stains and damages, tiny fart exhaust backfire. The way lights work is so absurd, for example in DR2 we can see how the sorrounding lights up when the car backfires, and how the rain only appears on screen when it's lit by head/tail lights. I know it's a new engine they are using, but you can't just lie to yourself that WRC looks better than DR2.
there are too many graphical bugs like disappearing hood and bonnets. and the game performs like asshole.. they need to fix this asap. also bring back ego engine
More low effort bullshit from EA Sports. It's such a shame they snatch up all these wonderful IP's. An absolute disgrace. Imagine a Rally Sim from a company like Kunos...
Dirt 2.0 looks better, plays better, sounds better. I wouldn't care too much about graphics, physics are what's important not graphics. The physics of WRC are a big step backwards compared to dirt 2.0.
lol this game is dog poop compared to DR2. I knew EA would bend us over. Refund requested. And I’ll never ever buy another EA game like I said 5yrs ago with their sports games. This was different, being that codemasters was still supposed to be doing all the dev work. What a joke.
Wrc handles way better and true to real life. Wrc and dr2.0 both look similar but with the handling, career, better car selection, and better tracks it’s just the better game.
DR2.0 is still better for me in my books. WRC has much better physics and driving is less chaotic, but everything else, I dont know. The whole vibe of the game is just bland and dull, surgically clean lets say. DR2.0 had a tone, a vibe, some artistic vision to it. It had its own thing going for it. WRC on the other hand just feels like boring. Like you slapped a reshade on RBR. But each to their own I guess.
I want to try a rally game on my PS5 and right now there is a January sale which includes both games. Dirt rally 2.0 much cheap. What do you guys thinks? Should I buy Dirt 2.0? I love to watch rally videos on youtube and I like new rally cars but I am not a great rally driver. I am much better in Gran Turismo.
reflections are all but absent in wrc. the environmental detail is better, but the lighting and the ambience is nowhere close. vehicle materials are flat, the cars don't even seem to really get dirty. this whole game has a lot that needs to be addressed. i can't believe this is being sold as "next gen"
Console vs pc graphics have always had a stark difference. Sure when they came out they had the same fidelity as a mid range pc from that year but of course that's not gonna get any better with time you have the same hardware and a system getting dusty and thermal paste drying out over time meaning thermal throttling will creap in over time as well....
Love how the new game is barely better looking (even that is questionable or personal opinion), and reflections are at 30hz on the new consoles with car losing it's own shadow when passing through shadows, which isn't a thing in DR2. The real problem is that it is much heavier to run even with inferior eye candy. I guess it is the new 2023 pandemic.
If you want unrealistic eye candy you can always go play nfs games lol. The game is looking more true to life which shocker isn't filled with over exposed and vfx oddities that only come from a camera. It's looks much better. Not to mention consoles are 3 years old at this point they are a generation behind compared to pc and will continue to have the same similar graphical experience until the next generation. It's like people forgot how shit works after the pandemic damn.
@@andrewfetter4843 if 30hz reflections and shadow disappearing under the car is realistic to you, then idk what to say. I don't expect games to have special effects and you totally ignore the "looks worse but is much heavier" part of my argument, specially when one is made for PS4 and the other for PS5, so the PS5 is 3 years old doesn't stick to me, since PC gaming hardware even though more new, it is immensely overpriced since 3 years ago, specially considering how heavy games have become this year.
i hope in the next updates they would sand down the rough edges on the UE5 wrc. so far i am happy codemasters are now in charge of WRC title. only why they decided to switch to a new engine tho
I'll stick to dirt 2.0. Unless the handling / physics are improved a lot. But the handling of the car was already good in dirt 2.0. I wonder about the FFB for the DDpro.
@Simcade-racer yes, stage design in wrc-g is really amazing. 👌 I like DR 2.0 and WRC-G. When you have set up your steering wheel correctly, wrc-g is perfect to drive with good ffb effects. I find EA WRC very bad.
dirt rally 1 was awesome because of PP and having loeb peugeot.. dirt rally 2.0 is an all-around best one...seeing 2023 ea wrc..looks like s***...haven't played...but seems not so so good
My biggest problem with Codemasters once again is the blatant and lazy re-using of +10 year old sounds, when in many cases don't even sound good or accurate, just loud. Think it's time they work just a second on it.
@@andrewfetter4843 heard way more rally cars than you'll hear in a lifetime. Codemasters sounds aren't bad, but dated, some of them have been reused over more than 10 years, and the Audi Quattro specifically is just completely unrealistic, and an utter joke.
@@suryopras ah and the extremely cardboard cutout lod trees littered everywhere past the tree line in dirt rally, as even seen dramatically in the thumb nail of the video, are amazing right? I also forgot having weirdly tiled textures that are high resolution but lack any sort of depth to communicate that detail is better than assets which use a mixture of proper depth mapping and textures which hide the tiling effect right? Seriously are you just playing at 480p and can't make a distinction at all due to lack of any visuals to compare?
Wrc is another rushed out product . The engine sounds and graphics are so inferior in every way . The handling is also so terrible it’s like playing an F1 game .
Dirt Rally 2 just looks better. Better lighting, reflections, particles and more details.
Well so the 2019 game looks far better. A shame...
One word "EA"...
Maybe. But the handling in WRC is infinitely better and it has a proper career mode and much better stages. Tarmac doesn't feel slippy and weird anymore and that alone is a massive upgrade.
@@ElShogoso gravel handling is absolutely not better if anything is actually worse and has been dumb down and being catered to casuals
Hater of ea
Honestly the WRC game looks more true to life where as the dr2 looks like more like a movie cinematic scene. Like sense of speed, no I don't need excessive motion blur to make it look like I'm going 120mph when I'm really barely hitting 60mph... that's immersion braking. Extremely hard shadows in dr2 versus the more soft realistic shadows in wrc. I get it if you want overblown unrealistic visuals, sure than dr2 checks those boxes, but if you want a more realistic and immersive experience than wrc is where it's at.
Great comparison video, thank you! Dirt Rally 2 looks to have better car lighting.
... DR1 has even better! 😹
@@Tommy712rusit has pikes peak!
even DR1 is miles better than EA WRC
@@IK47-d2l welp must been you know more than all simracers and real drivers 🤣
@@Tommy712rus I mean graphics wise
Sorry, but the older DR2.0 looks like the nicer package... Raineffects on the car windows, the feel of the speed...
Hope that they would fix the little probs in the new WRC title...
DR2.0 has way to much overblown visual dynamics. I get its cinematic but it's not realistic and kinda kills immersion. Plus the environmental detail past the tree line is where DR2 really shows its age. Give me soft and realistic shadows over super hard and jarring transitions between light and shade any day. I will say the bug with the snow falling and looking like leds on the floor in wrc looks terrible but besides that the winter particles look way better. For example, snow doesn't disappear because headlights aren't shining on them like what happens in dr2. They could of gone crazy with lumen and nanites but as there is still a large console market I understand trying to make it somewhat performant on mid-low end hardware. Also I'm a driver in rally games not a camera so why all the sun spots and weird camera artifacts from light in dr2 kills the immersion to sell visual fluff.
@@andrewfetter4843 DR2 is superior in every way. EA WRC is a big disappointment. Everyone is saying so, except the EA employees. You may have some points, seeing that DR2 wasn’t perfect, but EA WRC is a huge step backwards. Codemasters should have never sold to EA.
@@andrewfetter4843 puedes desactivarlos en la configuracion grafica, osea que hay que quitarle efectos visuales y luego lo vendes como un juego nuevo, algo asi me parece ridiculo, prefiero cuando un juego evoluciona y no al reves
@@andrewfetter4843 "Also I'm a driver in rally games not a camera so why all the sun spots and weird camera artifacts from light in dr2 kills the immersion to sell visual fluff." You're watching the game through a camera, it makes sense that the game simulates camera effects, especially in third person views. Why the visual fluff? Because the game looks better, and more interesting. I honestly don't care if "it's not realistic", it's an entertainment product first and foremost, so I want to enjoy looking at it. EA WRC is a stuttery, blurry mess, and on top of that it looks dull, washed out and uninteresting. It's beyond "soulless", it lacks an artistic vision and direction, it looks like it's been made just because they had to (and probably, that's the truth).
There’s not much difference in these graphically. Dirt Rally 2 still holds up all these years later.
If the developers actually did their job instead of promoting this garbage game for a whole month, DR2 wouldn’t hold up all these yrs later.
I mean sure dr2 looks pretty with the overblown vfx but it doesn't look realistic lol. Wrc looks more realistic which means it's less stylized and boring so people are giving it shit even though it's more realistic.
@@andrewfetter4843 You’re right in some ways, but even real life looks better than EA WRC, and real life is bland! We play games to escape real life. Game companies should know this by now. I actually think codemasters just got lazy after the buyout. When their game bombs they’ll get the message and maybe make enjoyable games again.
@@andrewfetter4843 solo cabia los parametros graficos y desactivas las sombras y los brillos solares y hay tienes tu EA WRC
@@andrewfetter4843 It doesn’t look more realistic, it looks like shit.
As someone who owns a 2001 Impreza in WR Blue, EA WRC's abomination makes my eyes bleed.
The best ever car sound in any racing game is this subaru in dirt 2.0 nothing comes close!
I love dirt 2.0. But nothing beats ACC if its about sound in cockpit 👌.
@@junglesleepmediaow, someone is hurt.
I also really like the Subaru in Rallysimfans' RBR. Something about the sound dynamics when going up and down the revs that I don't think I ever heard in any other game really.
Idk, dirt rally 2.0 more like next gen game, than ea wrc😮
I agree.
Dirt Rally 2.0 was way too graphically advanced for it's time... sorry but when it came out it literally broke 90% of the GPUs of the time... I play DR 2.0 on an RX 6900XT and have frame drops to under 100fps on 1440p... which means it's a very demanding game... why did people expect some huge graphical uplift I don't understand... the same will be done when the F1 games change engine and everyone will expect unreasonable things and we'll have the same whining...
EA WRC also looks bad in videos because of it's bad performance... playing 4k ultra settings REQUIRES an RTX 4090... even the 4080 gets trashed by it... when this game performs better and they fix the issues then you can compare it fairly...
Anyway, I like good graphics but what I love about this WRC game is it's gameplay... it's massively better than DR 2.0...
@@nikosfotidas8543 gameplay 10x better compare 2.0, but graphics not, vegetation look static, just hopping they fix the performance issues
@@jenilistamustika8376 Let me tell you the issue and why it won't be fixed. They obviously wanted to make vegitation look "alive" etc and the only engine that is capable of doing it well is Unreal. However the problem is that unreal engine is really really bad at rendering too many things very very fast because of how detailed it is... if you play ACC for example which uses UE 4 try doing hotlaps alone on track... you get something insane like 150-200 fps... then try setting a race with other cars where UE4 needs to render the car models... with 20 cars on track those 200FPS go down to 90FPS in a hearbeat...
In Rallying that there is so much crap around the stage (trees, rocks, houses, fences, crowd etc etc etc) if you try to push UE to be super detailed the performance will be utter garbage...
Anyway, Rally games are the hardest racing games to balance in terms of performance because the environment detail needs to be paired with the insane speed at which this environment comes and goes as you speed through the woods...
@@nikosfotidas8543 I think the problem during races in ACC is that ACC fully simulates the physics for each AI car, that's why you have huge fps drops that you don't have during solo hotlaps. (Usually racing sims use a much more simplified physics for AI cars to lower CPU usage).
EA Sports wrc is basically Dirt rally 0.5 lol
yes. agreed with you!
Dirt Rally 0.1
Same thing they did with UFC5 giving the gamers a 4.5 version. Typical EA lazyness
@thepessimisticgamer91 EA WRC's physics are slightly better than DR 2.0's - specially on the icy and snowy roads of Monte Carlo, in which we have less grip now, which is more realistic. Still, both are arcade-ish.
The shading and lighting looks terrible in this game compared to DR 2.0 but mostly in sunny weather, at night it doesn't look so bad. The switch to Unreal Engine was certainly a good one in terms of the game's capabilities, but so far it looks much worse than on Ego Engine. The game presents very uneven visuals.
It was like that in all the wrc games. We always said that... Way to bright. We won't get a next dirt rally game..wrc will be a yearly launch with low effort.. F1, fifa are the same. Sad... In the past we could choose.. Thanks to EA we don't have options anymore. As a rally fan it's a sad evolution. I prefer a good game every 5 years.. Now we're getting another greedy EA game.. The next wrc will have a lot of microtransactions...EA didn't wanted to risk it this year cause of a new launch... Be ready for wrc 24/25/26/27/28...all the same...paying for a game... Live service game....microtransactions, season passes and so on, monetizing everything...💰💰💰
It's evolving, just backwards
@@Followyourpassions don’t forget every year, pc preview builds/demos, that work great for you-tubers with state of the art computers to promote the game miss leading all the pre order and day one purchase people.
I 'eed to change my opinion. EA wrc is a great game. Playing it' now. Stages are amazing. The handling. I just adjusted the brightness in game to 5. It's better compared to dirt 2.0. Really amazed by it. I'm playing on ps5. Zero issues. Ffb on dd pro is great. Better compared to dirt 2.0
. The amount of content is insane. I'm falling in love 😁.
I'm seriously confused by comments like this.....do you ever go outside? When's the last time you had sun spots in your vision as if you were a camera lense? WRC just has toned down the excessive lighting vfx to more realistic dynamics compared to dirt. It looks way better imo
I think WRC will look great after a few updates but after playing 90 minutes, it feels like there's quite a bit to tidy up. I used to play Dirt 2.0 in VR so im amazed at how that looks on max settings
What VR headset did you use? Considering getting one myself. Thanks
@@ciarancrowley2516 I had an Oculus Rift for the past 6+ years but it died last week. Now i have a Quest 3 but haven't put any real time into driving with it yet. But it's a good step up in clarity from my old headset now for sure. There's more expensive options like the Valve Index but i like the idea of being able to game wirelessly too with the quest 3.
Wait does WRC really have the menu music from Colin Mcrae Rally 04 or was that just edited in?
it's 2023 and mirror reflections look so much worse then 16 years ago in dirt 1, how crazy is that?
If that was actually true maybe it would be but that's not the case at all.....
If you notice, some details look better in DR 2.0, like how the snow falling appears only when you turn on the lights, the backfires are more "realistic" and vivid. But overall, looks good for a game built in lesse time than ideal and in a new engine.
its built on the same assets previous wrc games were made of. its just ugly, soulless unnatural in every way possible. no wonder engine called UNreal. yeah they partly moved dr2 physics to wrc, but made it more arcady in many aspects
@@sxdattxb It's not WRC assets looks so much better in gerenrations. in EA WRC roads are boring and wide.
Snow does not disappear when head lights are not shining on them.... have you ever experienced it at all? If you called out the almost led effect they had when landing on the ground I'd agree that needs a touch up.
The back fire is way to over exposed in dr2 and makes it feel like your playing nfs. In general the reason people are saying dr2 looks better is because they went for a more dramatic cinematic style which kills immersion and the realism of the graphics. Now with the wrc title focusing more on true to life visuals your sad your missing things like sun spots that only appear on a camera when you are supposed to be a human driver with you know eyes not a camera... it's one thing to say you like more stylized vfx than realistic ones but to act like the graphics are shit is just nonsense.
Okay, so they not only managed to make it look worse then dr2 but to make it look even worse then wrc generations
Dirt 2.0 wins by a mile I played them both today. No where F near it… game feels like it was made by unhappy codemasters team with EA breathing down there necks to complete on a small budget… like in the first trailer * this is marginal gains * EA Easter egg
Too me personally it’s a step back and we should not support it sadly I did and I wish I didn’t. So just be aware
Good to know. Will probably stick with Dirt Rally 2. I never trusted EA. They ruined Grid too.
Its step foward to me felts like DIRT RALLY 1 higher grip with better suspension
@@Silentpartner2176 Don't listen to idiots... I bought WRC... it has performance issues but the gameplay is a MASSIVE upgrade from DR 2.0... I have over 1500hrs on DR 2.0... this is flat out better in every way... way more realistic physics, better stages, better modes, great fun career mode, car builder is fun... overall it's really REALLY good...
First of all finally cars don't need you to pull the handbrake on every turn lower than a 2 to be fast... real rally drivers don't work the handbrake as much as people think... they use the BRAKES to slide the car... anyway, this new WRC game is simply AMAZING.. if you love rallying, buy it... it's a no brainer...
It's definitely a huge step back, I knew EA will kill this game
@@nikosfotidas8543 these guys hating on it must be bots for real
What i have noticed, the cars doesnt get dirty on wrc 23....In dirt rally teh cars getting completely dirty.....
They do, it really depends on a track surface. In Kenya your car getting real dirty by the end of a stage
iba a comentar lo mismo, parece salido del concesionario, seguramente le aplican alguna capa de pintura anti barro que aun no se ha inventado
In DR2 i can get 150fps on ultra, but in wrc i have to lower down my graphics to RBRrally for having a good performance 😂😂😂
exactly
Still, game is great even with this. Nice physics and I'm really having fun with sim wheel 🤗
True that. Looks like codemasters couldn’t get along with new engine softly. Hopefully next game would run and look better
Speaking only in terms of graphics, I waited years to see Codemaster's official WRC because of DR 2's graphics. I was really disappointed.
Is it me, or does the overall sensation of speed seem slower in WRC? Like you're going in slow motion in comparison to Dirt 2?
The lighting looks so bad in WRC. The 2001 Impreza's undercoat colour has been brightened for no reason.
Don't know if it's just my eyes, but Dirt Rally 2.0 seemed to a bit more visually fluid.
I actually re-installed Generations again last night.
I did a one on one comparison on PS5 and WRC looks significantly better. BUT…..not better than DIRT Rally 2.0!!!!!
WRC is apperently next gen only. It looks worse than a previous incarnation on lesser hardware on a previous generation though.
Dirt Rally 2.0 to Dirt Rally was even a large graphical step forward in the same generation. This is a five year development cycle and new, much improved hardware and it looks inferior in many ways.
What bothers me even more is that I find the track layouts uninspiring, barren, boring and generic.
For instance Monte Carlo is almost a.i. generated like it is done with the trackbuilder in Dirt5. The uphill righthand corners keep repeating themselves in exactly the same way. It is like driving the same road for 17 km’s. Trackside details, elevation (like the Turkey track in Kileton’s efforts) etc. are all substantially lesser implemented than in Generations and even Codemasters’ own Dirt Rally 2.0.
The shouldn't have touch the exhaust sounds 😅
Best news this evening for me: We’ve issued the refund to the payment provider. You should see a credit or see the original charge removed from your statement within 14 days.
What a rubbish game, a game not a sim with lots of bling bling that doesn't help
WRC is quantity over quality, the sheer amount of roads at launch is mind boggling.
For context, Dirt rally and 2.0 both launched with 6 rally locations with 2 long 10km stages each. WRC has 17 countries with up to 30km stages thanks to the move to Unreal Engine.
DR2 is visually lightyears ahead. WRC-G is also better than EA-WRC. Can't speak about handling and gameplay, i own only DR2 and WRC-G.
I have the feeling they nerfed graphics in order to make it run smooth in VR even with low-mid hardware.
A PS3 could run this visuals. Let's not joke.
Agree with you!
Hey wait... How'd you get this wrx in wrc? I didn't see it in the car list.
The cockpit of that Subaru is completely different in WRC. DR 2.0 they nailed it but needlessly changed it for WRC. No idea why they thought it was a smart move in any way.
All of the cockpits are new, all from real recordings, previously they were faked. Some sound better than others, but the ones that do sound good sound exceptional.
Hahah WRC23 is a joke, DR2 wins big time. Not even close.
Graphically, it's true that there's been no progress, but I think that in terms of gameplay, EA WRC is much better than Dirt Rally 2.0.
how so?
@@IK47-d2l physics, especially the grip. DR2’s grip on tarmac feels like you ride on soap.
@@clankclutchy That can easily be fixed with a patch but they decided not to. I wonder why... hmmmmmmm
Even DR2.0 replays look better
Ego engine ❤..the nicest
DIRT Rally 2.0 > EA Sports WRC
I tried both and overall DR2 is the winner imo. It's like food - Ingredients and taste is worth more than the presentation of it. A fancy plate can't save mediocre food. WRC feels like you're not really connected to the car, while in DR2 you instantly become one with it. The graphics is overall better in WRC, but that's just not enough to take the throne. I Have a suspicion that EA chose controller compatibility at the cost of less simulation for maximum profit. Good for those not having wheel and pedals, but not for me. I prefer hardcore simracing.
CMR 4 main menu music ?
I can't believe how EA WRC is a step backwards in virtually every way yet it's running on next gen hardware. The only racing game to me that truely utalises the power of PS5 is Granturismo 7 but lets face it it is stunning on PS4. I am happy playing on PS4 until we get truely get next gen games and sony now releasing the PS5 pro , it's a joke. So glad that people post these kind of videos but not happy when their money has been wasted ! Nice touch at the end with Granturismo !
I dont know about you guys but for some reasons it seem to me that dirt 2.0 graphics looks a bit better.
EA Wrc is WRC generations 2.0
All the "EA content creator network" people have been selling this like was the evolution of DR 2.0, shame on them.
The new game look nice, and can be as fun as WRC generations was. But miles away of the fun in DR 2.0 (and of course nothing like realism of RBR)
Wasted oportunity of make a great game.
Some TH-camrs are selling their integrity and credibility to EA just to get free games. I unsubbed from many channels.
I have only played dirt rally 2, as my pc is not fresh enough to play WRC 23. However, it seems (visually) that DR 2.0 is better! I really hope for some updates for WRC 23 by the time I'm able to play it, but for some reason I don't think that will be the case... :(
WRC already looks bad but somehow perform even worse. As for this time, there is no reason to play the game at all. Stick with DR2.0
Visually WRC is more realistic, DR2 is just more stylized. Which if that's your preference then cool, play games like nfs and the like that excell in that department. I don't get the obsession with trying to emulate fake vfx from the cinema into something that's supposed to simulate a real life experience for immersion.
@@andrewfetter4843 WRC dosn't look "realistic" at all, dirt/splash particles are static, trees and grass models aren't breezing, cars barely have any dirt stains and damages, tiny fart exhaust backfire. The way lights work is so absurd, for example in DR2 we can see how the sorrounding lights up when the car backfires, and how the rain only appears on screen when it's lit by head/tail lights. I know it's a new engine they are using, but you can't just lie to yourself that WRC looks better than DR2.
there are too many graphical bugs like disappearing hood and bonnets.
and the game performs like asshole..
they need to fix this asap. also bring back ego engine
More low effort bullshit from EA Sports. It's such a shame they snatch up all these wonderful IP's. An absolute disgrace.
Imagine a Rally Sim from a company like Kunos...
Dirt 2.0 looks better, plays better, sounds better. I wouldn't care too much about graphics, physics are what's important not graphics. The physics of WRC are a big step backwards compared to dirt 2.0.
lol this game is dog poop compared to DR2. I knew EA would bend us over. Refund requested. And I’ll never ever buy another EA game like I said 5yrs ago with their sports games. This was different, being that codemasters was still supposed to be doing all the dev work. What a joke.
EA is a plague
Ea WRC is far better in terms of car handling but DR 2.0 is graphically miles ahead
Dirt Rally 2.0 is three steps above. Dirt tutta la vita. ✊🏻
Dirt 2.0 es el mejor juego de rally de la historia.
DR 2.0 the king. Ea... meh.
Wrc handles way better and true to real life. Wrc and dr2.0 both look similar but with the handling, career, better car selection, and better tracks it’s just the better game.
DR2? yeah it's much better
DR2.0 is still better for me in my books. WRC has much better physics and driving is less chaotic, but everything else, I dont know. The whole vibe of the game is just bland and dull, surgically clean lets say. DR2.0 had a tone, a vibe, some artistic vision to it. It had its own thing going for it. WRC on the other hand just feels like boring. Like you slapped a reshade on RBR. But each to their own I guess.
I want to try a rally game on my PS5 and right now there is a January sale which includes both games. Dirt rally 2.0 much cheap. What do you guys thinks? Should I buy Dirt 2.0? I love to watch rally videos on youtube and I like new rally cars but I am not a great rally driver. I am much better in Gran Turismo.
Late reply try WRC 23 seem to be improved so far.
reflections are all but absent in wrc. the environmental detail is better, but the lighting and the ambience is nowhere close. vehicle materials are flat, the cars don't even seem to really get dirty. this whole game has a lot that needs to be addressed. i can't believe this is being sold as "next gen"
The graphics are really bad on xbox series consoles. I feel like im playing a 10 year old game.
Dirt rally 2.0 was so much better
Console vs pc graphics have always had a stark difference. Sure when they came out they had the same fidelity as a mid range pc from that year but of course that's not gonna get any better with time you have the same hardware and a system getting dusty and thermal paste drying out over time meaning thermal throttling will creap in over time as well....
Love how the new game is barely better looking (even that is questionable or personal opinion), and reflections are at 30hz on the new consoles with car losing it's own shadow when passing through shadows, which isn't a thing in DR2. The real problem is that it is much heavier to run even with inferior eye candy. I guess it is the new 2023 pandemic.
If you want unrealistic eye candy you can always go play nfs games lol. The game is looking more true to life which shocker isn't filled with over exposed and vfx oddities that only come from a camera. It's looks much better. Not to mention consoles are 3 years old at this point they are a generation behind compared to pc and will continue to have the same similar graphical experience until the next generation. It's like people forgot how shit works after the pandemic damn.
@@andrewfetter4843 if 30hz reflections and shadow disappearing under the car is realistic to you, then idk what to say. I don't expect games to have special effects and you totally ignore the "looks worse but is much heavier" part of my argument, specially when one is made for PS4 and the other for PS5, so the PS5 is 3 years old doesn't stick to me, since PC gaming hardware even though more new, it is immensely overpriced since 3 years ago, specially considering how heavy games have become this year.
i hope in the next updates they would sand down the rough edges on the UE5 wrc. so far i am happy codemasters are now in charge of WRC title. only why they decided to switch to a new engine tho
it's unreal engine 4
Codemasters is no longer Codemasters. They are now owned by EA. I don’t expect much improvement going forward.
I'll stick to dirt 2.0. Unless the handling / physics are improved a lot. But the handling of the car was already good in dirt 2.0. I wonder about the FFB for the DDpro.
Csl DD user here, feels better for me, enough to warrant the cost. Also Rally1 cars are quite a load of fun.
same here. Dirt Rally much better as EA WRC. But for me WRC-G best rally game currently
@@indieman6868 stage design = wrc👌.
Physics = dirt 2. 0👌.
My experience 😉.
@@delta_13 i'll check some YT vids also. But after buying wrc 10 and generations.. We'll see.
@Simcade-racer yes, stage design in wrc-g is really amazing. 👌 I like DR 2.0 and WRC-G. When you have set up your steering wheel correctly, wrc-g is perfect to drive with good ffb effects. I find EA WRC very bad.
WRC has Year seasons ,Dirt 2.0 not.
ea wrc? crei que era wrc 8.........pongamos nuestras esperanzas en DIRT 3.0
Another gamer bias, WRC rally looks more polished. stage design, sponsors signs, interior views and dashboards (check the BMW M1)
Nice
Dirt 2.0 replays look like 30fps
In terms of handling, the new one is so much better! 😊👍
WRC-G much better as EA WRC. And Dirt Rally 2.0 > EA WRC
dirt rally 1 was awesome because of PP and having loeb peugeot..
dirt rally 2.0 is an all-around best one...seeing 2023 ea wrc..looks like s***...haven't played...but seems not so so good
My biggest problem with Codemasters once again is the blatant and lazy re-using of +10 year old sounds, when in many cases don't even sound good or accurate, just loud. Think it's time they work just a second on it.
What are you on about? The sounds are actually realistic in wrc have you never head a real rally car tf....
@@andrewfetter4843 heard way more rally cars than you'll hear in a lifetime. Codemasters sounds aren't bad, but dated, some of them have been reused over more than 10 years, and the Audi Quattro specifically is just completely unrealistic, and an utter joke.
Dirt rally puede con todos
Dirt Rally 1 o el 2.0?
One more EA lazy release... They still don't use proper current gen engine... New game old formula and presentation.
Dirt Campione
Yes graphics are not better but tracks are 10x better so it doesnt matter. Overall a better game
Whats better? EA WRC looks boring with the same track layout and trees over and over again.
@@suryopras ah and the extremely cardboard cutout lod trees littered everywhere past the tree line in dirt rally, as even seen dramatically in the thumb nail of the video, are amazing right? I also forgot having weirdly tiled textures that are high resolution but lack any sort of depth to communicate that detail is better than assets which use a mixture of proper depth mapping and textures which hide the tiling effect right? Seriously are you just playing at 480p and can't make a distinction at all due to lack of any visuals to compare?
Wrc is another rushed out product . The engine sounds and graphics are so inferior in every way . The handling is also so terrible it’s like playing an F1 game .
Unreal Engine is a trash