Hey I just want to take a moment to thank you for all the work you put into these guides. I'm replaying ffviii for the first time in over a decade and these guides have been immensely helpful.
You can also easily farm 100 curse spikes in Galbadia Garden in Disc 2. Tri-faces appear at least 50% of the time on the 2F balcony just before going into the theater to fight Edea.
I found a useful shortcut on this screen. If you go to the save point, and enter the switch menu, just enter and exit you don't have to actually switch anything, it reactivates the fixed encounters. This saves the time of the two screen transitions as well! Just a little bit of a time-saver is all. 😄
By That I Mean, Run To The "Next Screen", And Then "Run Back" To The "Screen" Where The FIXED "Tri-Face" Encounters Are. That Works For ALL The "Fixed Encounters" In DSRC, By The Way.
Was so confused why this wasn't working for me. Did some research and it turns out you HAVE to use the Zell method to get to this area. If you don't have Zell in your party and use him to unlock the door you won't get these encounters.
triface are susceptible to Stop spell. This is a great tactic and I use it often, but if you junction Stop to your attack, your initial Mug attack will most likely stop him, leaving your party untouched and always at full HP, also you spend a long time here grinding/farming, you really should be using the Card ability as well and turn them into cards for the refine :)
The best way to farm dark matter is in disc 2, in the place you get cerberus, ther is only tri face and the other one with sharp spike, just use mug, card and card mod...quistis learn shockwave in disc 2
You can get curse spikes, albeit quite slowly at the Centra Ruins. Go to the area where you need to climb the ladder to activate the machine with the blue light/orb (after the Tonberry section). Around there and the spiral staircase you fight skeletons 75% of the time who seem to drop 2 curse spikes very frequently and is a much safer way of farming straight after getting Balamb Garden on disk 2.
Hero-trial is a pretty lousy way of using Dark Matter, for the record. Laguna’s card refines into 100 Heroes, which do the same thing (and are better for refining), and Gilgamesh’s card refines into 10 Holy Wars, which is invincibility for the entire party, and both are just as easy to farm as Chubby Chocobo, which you mentioned. Literally the only reason to refine Dark Matter to Hero-trials is for inventory completion.
Wow your video must be good luck! Just woke up and was watching this while letting my Angelo Search get a few extra items after letting it run all night. And what do you know, Angelo finds a Hero-Trial right when you were talking about them in this vid! 😁
I simply used the Dollet Mission to get Ifrit, Quezacotl, and Shiva to level 100 with Seifer, and then used Quezacotl's Card command to Card a bunch of Grat enemies in the Balamb Training Grounds until x10 of them turn into Shumi Tribe cards. Then, i use Card Mod ability to turn x10 of those Shumi Tribe cards into one Card command. One to each of the three sets of GF pairings, so that all 3 characters could card. Then, i simply waited for the Laguna Kiros Ward dream where they are in the Lunatic Pandora/Esther crystal caverns. Here, you'll fight a TON of Gesper enemies. Simply Card command them to collect x100 Black Hole items (they drop black holes on defeat, even if Carded) and x100 of the card. If you find that you reach x100 of the card before the items, simply Card Mod some of the cards into the Black Hole items, and then continue to Card command the enemies. Now, you can make at least 2 Dark Matter items. It's a shame they don't give you the ability to make the items right then and there without leveling your characters (without the bonuses you might want per level like Speed Bonus from GFs you won't have yet), but it gets you two sets for future use.
Seeing alot of people in comments saying they get to level 100 due to grinding tri-faces and ruby dragons etc. If you want to keep the party level low, steal the item in question (eg. Curse Spikes from Triface) then use Tonberry's Level Dn twice before slaying. All the spoils, all the AP, but little to no EXP :)
Wouldn't the Card command also work? I'm not there yet, but it definitely works on the tri-faces around Cerberus. Does it not work on the fixed encounters?
The ONLY thing I'd change is instead of booting them from the party with Quisitis, I'd put someone who's got the Card ability.. Turning tri-face into a card stops EXP as well as gets you a tri-face card.. which can be turned into more cursed spikes!!
Hey, Fuzz, you have the wrong ability listed to make Luck Ups in the video. It's not ForbidMag-R, it's ForbidMed-R, which is the same for all stat-boosting items!
How is it possible for you to have that yellow "got all" symbol at the cards in the menu? The eden card is acquired from ultima weapon, and since you have those tri-face fixed encounters mean you have not defeated it yet?
I farmed 1.5 dark matters in front of Cerberus last night. Only 50% if the encounters are Tri-Face. I think that I’m going to do the rest later. Squall hit Lvl 100 for me doing it because I was struggling getting the energy crystals to drop from Ruby Dragon
As far as I remember, tri-face is susceptible to death magic. I used to junction 100 death magic to ST Attack, and in the battle just attack tri-face, it will surely die. I do not know if this is still the same as the remastered version.
Why go through getting a shaman stone 10× just for a hero trial when Gilgamesh card refines into 10×Holy Wars, and you can rewin and then refine it again from disc 4 Ragnarok. Want to kill Omega Weapon? Step by step method here: 1. Summon Cerberus 2. Cast Aura on everyone (I prefer Zell Squall and Quistis or Irvine) 3. Use Holy War 4. Cast meltdown on him 3× (1 time is fine but since you have triple I do 3× to make sure his defense is 0) 5. Have Squall limit break every time, hope for Lionheart to trigger often. 6. Use Duel with Zell. Make sure his Str is 255 ir as close as possible, alternate between his Booya and Heel Kick, ( right, left - Booya) (up, down - Heel Kick) Booya is always your starter. You can alternate between Herl Kick and Punch Rush (B,A) input each input as the name of his current move is displayed. When you get the timing mastered you can get the move entered in .20-.30 seconds or 3-4 moves per second. If you use Aura and not the remastered limit break (right thimb stick) Zell can get a Duel limit break of over 12 seconds. That turns into 30+ hits of 9999. DO NOT USE FINISHERS UNTIL UNDER 1 SECOND. 7. Have Quistis or Irvine be the healer/ Aura refresher and Holy War renewer. When that is not needed use Shockwave Pulsar or summon Eden as these can beeak the 9999 damage limit. Keep Aura and Holy War active and before long Omega Weapon is as good as dead. With Aura, Irvine and Zell can trigger their extra time limit breaks. Zell usually gets 4 seconds or 3.5 for his Duel but can get 12 seconds. Irvine can get off 3Pulse Ammo shots normally but with Aura he will get extended time roughly 1/5 of the time. With his extended time I think I counted 6 Pulse Ammo hits. (If Irvine has 255 str AP Ammo will hit for 9999 and is faster than Pulse Ammo so use AP as you can get 7-8 shots off in extended limit breaks) Honestly I skipped Irvine's turn since Squall and Zell had Auto Haste and they have the potential for the most damage. I only used Irvine for healer and support magic. Protect, Shell, Full Life, Aura, and Holy War renewal. Note: Aura will wear off faster than Holy War and with Holy War active you are unable to be hit with anything be it good or bad so Aura can only be reapplied after Holy Wars wear off. Omega hits hard and fast. He has 1 ability that hits all 3 party members for 9998 and a single target attack that one shots who ever he decides to target. Usually after his 9998 attack you have a small window of opportunity where he will not do anything, but I recommend turning combat speed all the way down and set ATB to wait. This way you should be able to heal up after his big AoE. You can leave everyone with 1 health and just keep Holy War active and skip using Aura but make sure your healer is at 9999 life at all times. If healer dies cast Full Life pronto. Easy fight though really.
Have one character with initiative and mug and haste if you want to be thorough. Have him hit for as little as possible. Have the other 2 equipped with death status atk. And firaga elemental. Have the whole team stat def junctioned with esuna, reflect, holy, and pain. Elem def life, shell, ultima, full life, Deck the remaining junctionable stats with best corresponding magicks. Ability no enc., luck + if you can. Set battle speed to max and set to 3× speed. Only hit with mug until success. Hit with other teammates afterwards. Rinse and repeat. Deep sea research 6-7 min run for a dark matter. Waste of time to card unless you are only interested in maintaining low level. INFINITELY SLOWER.
If you want to maintain low levels, have Quistis use her Blue Magic “Micro Missiles” to reduce Tri-Face’s HP to close to 0. That’ll speed up the carding process.
I love these videos but you don't explain how to trigger fixed encounters. I tried finding it in your other videos but don't know where it is covered, and you have over 100 FF8 videos. I can reach this screen easily but never see Tri-face. One of the commenters here says it has something to do with Zell? I guess I'll mess around with Zell but this seems like a crucial detail to leave out. If you cover how to spawn Tri-face in another video, could you add a link to that in your description?
I tried this again in remastered with my no-lvl up playing. Easy farm 300 curse spikes at Galbadia Garden Lobby after Cerberus. Chance to encount is 50%, supper high. Because i were trying no-lvl up, i needed tonberry to lvl it up to 40, mugged then carded (7-9 c.spikes including card/2mins). Squall have card cmd, zell has lv up cmd, ivrine have mug atk. Things are way better for no-lvl up player when u got tonberry GF. U can draw most of high lv magic and slot of high tier drop w/o lvl up. Just 1 need to be careful is drawing meteor from ruby dragon, u need to lvl him up to 64 (8-16-36-64) because u can only draw meteor from ruby dragon after lv 45. Lv down is way better when u only get 4exp/3 person for killing lv 1 monster/human u cant break or card. I got mostly everything at disc 2, tho. Only 1 ting annoying: U need either Seifer or Edea to lv-up ifrit for pulse ammo. And with pure no-lvl up, that still mean breaking rule. So, it's quite frustrated when the game designed that way. The real challenger for playing no-lvl up game is u will lv up 2 hardest boss (Omega weapond and Ultimecia) to max lv them kill them all when u only at stated lvl. This is the hardest challenge i ever did.
figured out a way to get curse spikes 100% of the time with Edea atGreat Salt Lake. Malboro must be killed after the 'disolving acid' attack that instantly follows a 'bad breath' attack (if there is a pause between attacks, thats not the rng code for the 10 curse spikes) i got a vid on there if anyone is interested for the 100% curse spike drop
You can get curse spikes from Marlboro's and they tend to drop around 8 to 16 but it is a rare drop, forbidden also drop curse spikes but both of these enemies have to be high level for marlboros I believe 65 and up as well for the forbidden enemies. But they are rare drops so this guide might be the easiest to acquire shockwave pulsar.
To get the tri face monsters in that area you need Zell in your party and enc none. Use 1 point on every level. On bottom level you let Zell open the the door. That's it. Enjoy it guys. If you did it wrong you can reset the points in 1st level by using the 1st monitor. Only if ultima is still alive. But how you have eden card without beat ultima weapon bro?
3 of my chars were max str, mag, spr, and vit. 100 only for spd and luck before I started getting tired of farming, so I finished the game then, and I have never felt so unsatisfied!
This is all too complicated.... I'm just gonna play the game. No way I'll be able to every everything. I happen to like long boss battles. Test those skills!
Im a completer, so I really like to have it all, even the chocobos quest! I appreciate this tutorials a lot 🤭 besides with the 3x speed in the remastered is faster and easier
Yes, but not as effective for farming as they are one of several different encounters that can appear. The fixed encounter method in his dungeon is much better because they are the ONLY enemy that will appear on this screen if you disable standard encounters.
Yup, plus, even with the Monteith method previously discovered, the amount of time required between each hard reset to re-encounter the same monster is a lot slower than the 3 guaranteed encounters back-to-back in the Deep Sea Research Center. You can also use the Odin glitch to repeatedly mug him, but this and the Monteith are both annoy the same length, even with x3, where the DSRC encounters are almost half the time if you have access to the boosters in your game.
Technically there are two ways to get Luck Ups but they are very similar. One way is like you said in the video by refining 1 Luck J Scroll to 1 Luck Up but the second way is to Mug Odin for 1 Luck J Scroll then refining. Both are similar. The real question is which way is faster, mugging Odin for 1 Luck J Scrolls every 20 minutes or farming for curse spikes. I'm assuming farming curse spikes???
@@FuzzfingerGaming Yeah, especially that the Odin method is very inconsistant. I have done a full day of testing with Odin (on the Steam version) and have found no consistent way of doing it. Note: the timer still runs while the game is paused and if the timer ends while the game is paused, Odin will never attack. You can take as much time and as many actions as you want afterwards to finish him off. I've got it to work with a normal attack using pause during the animation. But again, no consistency.
If you’re like me and killed Ultima on disc 3 you can force spawn triface on the island closest to heaven by using the hard reset method. Luckily triface is the rare spawn on that island so by saving then quiting then restart your game and start running around the triface will spawn every time. This trick works in every area with different results.
You need to have Zell in your party before going to ultima weapon . When you get to the part where you need to regulate pressure just ask Zell to force open the door on the bottom and you will get Tri-face fixed encounters .
@@CPTDOOMED thanks for posting the link. Haha, I had already knew how to do that, I was just trying to suggest that fuzz do a video in this series showing others who didn't know how to do it, as it is faster than the devour and TT card methods.
@FuzzfingerGaming As posted on one of your other Vids, your methode is taking a little too long so heres a faster way ;) You actually never have to leave the Map in the Remaster Version to reset the encounters tho... How this works (for me, 100% Remaster Version tested) You reach the map with the first fixed encounters (Tri-Heads) At the Savepoint there is a fixed encounter right before it Beat that. You hit the savepoint > go into your menu > go to the switchmenu > go INTO the switch menu and just quit out of the menu alltogether. Take a few steps back > BAM fixed encounter again. This sped up my Darkmatter farming tremendously as i never needed to reset the map by leaving and rejoining. Sadly this only works for the Tri-Heads
Why you want Dark Matters? Let's say it can be convert further to a load of powerful ability teaching items and magics, That's why it was made to be niche items.
It’s supposed to only have a fixed chance of working, but it actually works every time. In effect, it’s the same item taking up a different slot in your inventory.
Go to Island Closest to Heaven and use the Monteith method. It's slower than the fixed encounters but it's the fastest you''l get Tri-Faces after beating Ultima Weapon.
When I originally did this on my ps version, I carded them, 100 cards refine into 100 cursed spikes for a boost. I'm re-doing my 100% complete file on my PC. Happy hunting
@@hydroweapon yep, don't beat the deep sea research facility it stays open on disk 4. Get the ragnorok and fly back and mod curse spikes into dark matters. Means you have to go to ultimacia's castle and get up to Tiamat to draw edan
If Playing The Original PSX Version A GOOD WAY To Get Siren To Level 100 Is Have It Junctioned To Anyone, And Level ONLY EDEA To Level 100 Without Leveling Anyone Else. It's Not A Problem With Malboros As They Give A Lot Of EXP, Provided You Have Status DEFx4 Set Up Properly. I'm Sure They Did That Because To NOT Have Siren At Level 100 To Make 100 Curse Spikes Into 1 Dark Matter Would Just Be Too Easy.
@Ze TheGame Yeah, Using Card Mod To Make 100 Tri-Face Cards Into 1 Dark Matter(Disc 1) And Galbadia Garden(Disc 2) With The Tri-Faces. For The 1 Dark Matter To Teach Quistis Her BEST BLUE MAGIC Alone Isn't THAT Much A GRIND, The REAL GRIND Is The Luck Up-Farms. For MAG And SPR I Actually Used The Behemoths And Malboros With Devour. MAG And SPR Is A LITTLE FASTER That Way Compared To Card Farming For THOSE, Actually.
@Ze TheGame Magic Isn't TOTALLY Useless, Quistis's Blue Magic And Rinoa's Wishing Star Damage Is Based On That Stat Actually(And I'm Sure There's Others). HP is One Of The Easier Stats To MAX(Along With STR) However If Leveling, Without The HP Bonus Stat Your BASE HP Would Be Like 4000+.
Took me just under 8 mins to collect 100 curse spikes in 3x mode. I was consistently getting 6 - 8 spikes a mug. Got shock wave and a few hundred Ultima in no time, Awesome!
Hey I just want to take a moment to thank you for all the work you put into these guides. I'm replaying ffviii for the first time in over a decade and these guides have been immensely helpful.
You can also easily farm 100 curse spikes in Galbadia Garden in Disc 2. Tri-faces appear at least 50% of the time on the 2F balcony just before going into the theater to fight Edea.
Yes Sir. LVL Up 2 times and card them. 7 Curse spikes per battle on a low level game.
I found a useful shortcut on this screen. If you go to the save point, and enter the switch menu, just enter and exit you don't have to actually switch anything, it reactivates the fixed encounters. This saves the time of the two screen transitions as well! Just a little bit of a time-saver is all. 😄
Good find bro!
You Can Also "Enter/Exit" The "Screen" And It Will ALSO "Re-Activate" Those "Fixed Encounters" As Well. It Works The "Same Way".
By That I Mean, Run To The "Next Screen", And Then "Run Back" To The "Screen" Where The FIXED "Tri-Face" Encounters Are. That Works For ALL The "Fixed Encounters" In DSRC, By The Way.
I just farmed IMPS in and around Esthar City. They're incredibly easy to kill, and they can spawn in groups for more spike drops.
Was so confused why this wasn't working for me. Did some research and it turns out you HAVE to use the Zell method to get to this area. If you don't have Zell in your party and use him to unlock the door you won't get these encounters.
triface are susceptible to Stop spell. This is a great tactic and I use it often, but if you junction Stop to your attack, your initial Mug attack will most likely stop him, leaving your party untouched and always at full HP, also you spend a long time here grinding/farming, you really should be using the Card ability as well and turn them into cards for the refine :)
Also you can convert tri-face with Quizacoatl "Card" ability and convert his card to curse spike after
Very useful if you’re playing a low level game.
The best way to farm dark matter is in disc 2, in the place you get cerberus, ther is only tri face and the other one with sharp spike, just use mug, card and card mod...quistis learn shockwave in disc 2
Farming Holy War from Gilgamesh seem way smarter then going the hero-trial route.
You can get curse spikes, albeit quite slowly at the Centra Ruins. Go to the area where you need to climb the ladder to activate the machine with the blue light/orb (after the Tonberry section).
Around there and the spiral staircase you fight skeletons 75% of the time who seem to drop 2 curse spikes very frequently and is a much safer way of farming straight after getting Balamb Garden on disk 2.
Hero-trial is a pretty lousy way of using Dark Matter, for the record. Laguna’s card refines into 100 Heroes, which do the same thing (and are better for refining), and Gilgamesh’s card refines into 10 Holy Wars, which is invincibility for the entire party, and both are just as easy to farm as Chubby Chocobo, which you mentioned. Literally the only reason to refine Dark Matter to Hero-trials is for inventory completion.
Yep just get hero trials from Angelo search anyways.
In the PlayStation version I had tons of this in my inventory when I was in disc 2 because of the PocketStation.
Wow your video must be good luck! Just woke up and was watching this while letting my Angelo Search get a few extra items after letting it run all night. And what do you know, Angelo finds a Hero-Trial right when you were talking about them in this vid! 😁
I simply used the Dollet Mission to get Ifrit, Quezacotl, and Shiva to level 100 with Seifer, and then used Quezacotl's Card command to Card a bunch of Grat enemies in the Balamb Training Grounds until x10 of them turn into Shumi Tribe cards. Then, i use Card Mod ability to turn x10 of those Shumi Tribe cards into one Card command. One to each of the three sets of GF pairings, so that all 3 characters could card. Then, i simply waited for the Laguna Kiros Ward dream where they are in the Lunatic Pandora/Esther crystal caverns. Here, you'll fight a TON of Gesper enemies. Simply Card command them to collect x100 Black Hole items (they drop black holes on defeat, even if Carded) and x100 of the card. If you find that you reach x100 of the card before the items, simply Card Mod some of the cards into the Black Hole items, and then continue to Card command the enemies. Now, you can make at least 2 Dark Matter items. It's a shame they don't give you the ability to make the items right then and there without leveling your characters (without the bonuses you might want per level like Speed Bonus from GFs you won't have yet), but it gets you two sets for future use.
That doesn't sound simple at all! It sounds complicated long and painful! 😫
Seeing alot of people in comments saying they get to level 100 due to grinding tri-faces and ruby dragons etc. If you want to keep the party level low, steal the item in question (eg. Curse Spikes from Triface) then use Tonberry's Level Dn twice before slaying. All the spoils, all the AP, but little to no EXP :)
Wouldn't the Card command also work? I'm not there yet, but it definitely works on the tri-faces around Cerberus. Does it not work on the fixed encounters?
The ONLY thing I'd change is instead of booting them from the party with Quisitis, I'd put someone who's got the Card ability.. Turning tri-face into a card stops EXP as well as gets you a tri-face card.. which can be turned into more cursed spikes!!
Indeed, this is the method I am currently using mug, do damage (1 turn worth), stop them, card them
Hey, Fuzz, you have the wrong ability listed to make Luck Ups in the video. It's not ForbidMag-R, it's ForbidMed-R, which is the same for all stat-boosting items!
Good catch, thanks!
How is it possible for you to have that yellow "got all" symbol at the cards in the menu? The eden card is acquired from ultima weapon, and since you have those tri-face fixed encounters mean you have not defeated it yet?
I want to know it too. How?
I farmed 1.5 dark matters in front of Cerberus last night. Only 50% if the encounters are Tri-Face. I think that I’m going to do the rest later. Squall hit Lvl 100 for me doing it because I was struggling getting the energy crystals to drop from Ruby Dragon
As far as I remember, tri-face is susceptible to death magic. I used to junction 100 death magic to ST Attack, and in the battle just attack tri-face, it will surely die. I do not know if this is still the same as the remastered version.
It is.
It is but you also risk getting poison power, star fragments while trying to farm spikes.
Powder^
I was able to farm 100 curse spikes every 10 minutes while doing the Adel grind against Marlboros.
Why go through getting a shaman stone 10× just for a hero trial when Gilgamesh card refines into 10×Holy Wars, and you can rewin and then refine it again from disc 4 Ragnarok.
Want to kill Omega Weapon?
Step by step method here:
1. Summon Cerberus
2. Cast Aura on everyone (I prefer Zell Squall and Quistis or Irvine)
3. Use Holy War
4. Cast meltdown on him 3× (1 time is fine but since you have triple I do 3× to make sure his defense is 0)
5. Have Squall limit break every time, hope for Lionheart to trigger often.
6. Use Duel with Zell. Make sure his Str is 255 ir as close as possible, alternate between his Booya and Heel Kick, ( right, left - Booya) (up, down - Heel Kick) Booya is always your starter. You can alternate between Herl Kick and Punch Rush (B,A) input each input as the name of his current move is displayed. When you get the timing mastered you can get the move entered in .20-.30 seconds or 3-4 moves per second. If you use Aura and not the remastered limit break (right thimb stick) Zell can get a Duel limit break of over 12 seconds. That turns into 30+ hits of 9999. DO NOT USE FINISHERS UNTIL UNDER 1 SECOND.
7. Have Quistis or Irvine be the healer/ Aura refresher and Holy War renewer.
When that is not needed use Shockwave Pulsar or summon Eden as these can beeak the 9999 damage limit.
Keep Aura and Holy War active and before long Omega Weapon is as good as dead.
With Aura, Irvine and Zell can trigger their extra time limit breaks. Zell usually gets 4 seconds or 3.5 for his Duel but can get 12 seconds. Irvine can get off 3Pulse Ammo shots normally but with Aura he will get extended time roughly 1/5 of the time. With his extended time I think I counted 6 Pulse Ammo hits. (If Irvine has 255 str AP Ammo will hit for 9999 and is faster than Pulse Ammo so use AP as you can get 7-8 shots off in extended limit breaks)
Honestly I skipped Irvine's turn since Squall and Zell had Auto Haste and they have the potential for the most damage. I only used Irvine for healer and support magic. Protect, Shell, Full Life, Aura, and Holy War renewal.
Note: Aura will wear off faster than Holy War and with Holy War active you are unable to be hit with anything be it good or bad so Aura can only be reapplied after Holy Wars wear off. Omega hits hard and fast. He has 1 ability that hits all 3 party members for 9998 and a single target attack that one shots who ever he decides to target. Usually after his 9998 attack you have a small window of opportunity where he will not do anything, but I recommend turning combat speed all the way down and set ATB to wait. This way you should be able to heal up after his big AoE. You can leave everyone with 1 health and just keep Holy War active and skip using Aura but make sure your healer is at 9999 life at all times. If healer dies cast Full Life pronto. Easy fight though really.
Very helpful dude Thanks for the video
Have one character with initiative and mug and haste if you want to be thorough. Have him hit for as little as possible.
Have the other 2 equipped with death status atk. And firaga elemental.
Have the whole team stat def junctioned with esuna, reflect, holy, and pain. Elem def life, shell, ultima, full life,
Deck the remaining junctionable stats with best corresponding magicks. Ability no enc., luck + if you can. Set battle speed to max and set to 3× speed.
Only hit with mug until success. Hit with other teammates afterwards. Rinse and repeat. Deep sea research 6-7 min run for a dark matter. Waste of time to card unless you are only interested in maintaining low level. INFINITELY SLOWER.
If you want to maintain low levels, have Quistis use her Blue Magic “Micro Missiles” to reduce Tri-Face’s HP to close to 0. That’ll speed up the carding process.
Thanks for the video. So we don't need to level up to 100 Siren or Doomtrain on the Remaster version to refine Dark matter and Hero-trial?
Farming Island Closest to Heaven,1 hour x3 speed get 12 dark matter.irvine max luck 255 need 16-17 hour😂
100 Curse Spikes - > 1 Dark Matter - > 1 Luck Up. Those LUCK UPs Will REALLY HELP Your Critical AND Evade Ratio, As Well As Many Other Factors!
I love these videos but you don't explain how to trigger fixed encounters. I tried finding it in your other videos but don't know where it is covered, and you have over 100 FF8 videos. I can reach this screen easily but never see Tri-face. One of the commenters here says it has something to do with Zell?
I guess I'll mess around with Zell but this seems like a crucial detail to leave out. If you cover how to spawn Tri-face in another video, could you add a link to that in your description?
I tried this again in remastered with my no-lvl up playing. Easy farm 300 curse spikes at Galbadia Garden Lobby after Cerberus.
Chance to encount is 50%, supper high.
Because i were trying no-lvl up, i needed tonberry to lvl it up to 40, mugged then carded (7-9 c.spikes including card/2mins). Squall have card cmd, zell has lv up cmd, ivrine have mug atk.
Things are way better for no-lvl up player when u got tonberry GF. U can draw most of high lv magic and slot of high tier drop w/o lvl up. Just 1 need to be careful is drawing meteor from ruby dragon, u need to lvl him up to 64 (8-16-36-64) because u can only draw meteor from ruby dragon after lv 45. Lv down is way better when u only get 4exp/3 person for killing lv 1 monster/human u cant break or card. I got mostly everything at disc 2, tho.
Only 1 ting annoying: U need either Seifer or Edea to lv-up ifrit for pulse ammo. And with pure no-lvl up, that still mean breaking rule. So, it's quite frustrated when the game designed that way.
The real challenger for playing no-lvl up game is u will lv up 2 hardest boss (Omega weapond and Ultimecia) to max lv them kill them all when u only at stated lvl. This is the hardest challenge i ever did.
figured out a way to get curse spikes 100% of the time with Edea atGreat Salt Lake. Malboro must be killed after the 'disolving acid' attack that instantly follows a 'bad breath' attack (if there is a pause between attacks, thats not the rng code for the 10 curse spikes)
i got a vid on there if anyone is interested for the 100% curse spike drop
There is a more efficient way to do this. Mug the Tri face and then card it. You will earn 1 extra curse spike per battle due to the card mod ability.
You can get curse spikes from Marlboro's and they tend to drop around 8 to 16 but it is a rare drop, forbidden also drop curse spikes but both of these enemies have to be high level for marlboros I believe 65 and up as well for the forbidden enemies. But they are rare drops so this guide might be the easiest to acquire shockwave pulsar.
Don't forget about IMP too as well..
I easily net either 6 or 8. Going for my 3rd dark matter. Only issue is when Odin shows up and all i get is poison powder
To get the tri face monsters in that area you need Zell in your party and enc none. Use 1 point on every level. On bottom level you let Zell open the the door. That's it. Enjoy it guys. If you did it wrong you can reset the points in 1st level by using the 1st monitor. Only if ultima is still alive. But how you have eden card without beat ultima weapon bro?
3 of my chars were max str, mag, spr, and vit. 100 only for spd and luck before I started getting tired of farming, so I finished the game then, and I have never felt so unsatisfied!
This is all too complicated.... I'm just gonna play the game. No way I'll be able to every everything. I happen to like long boss battles. Test those skills!
Im a completer, so I really like to have it all, even the chocobos quest! I appreciate this tutorials a lot 🤭 besides with the 3x speed in the remastered is faster and easier
I've already completed the game twice. Just want to make sure I do everything this time so these guides are awesome.
I farmed 1 dark matter for Quistis but not sure why someone would need to max out luck.
Wait, cant you farm tri faces in island closest to heaven?
Yes, but not as effective for farming as they are one of several different encounters that can appear. The fixed encounter method in his dungeon is much better because they are the ONLY enemy that will appear on this screen if you disable standard encounters.
Yup, plus, even with the Monteith method previously discovered, the amount of time required between each hard reset to re-encounter the same monster is a lot slower than the 3 guaranteed encounters back-to-back in the Deep Sea Research Center.
You can also use the Odin glitch to repeatedly mug him, but this and the Monteith are both annoy the same length, even with x3, where the DSRC encounters are almost half the time if you have access to the boosters in your game.
Yes and you can force spawn them too!
Technically there are two ways to get Luck Ups but they are very similar. One way is like you said in the video by refining 1 Luck J Scroll to 1 Luck Up but the second way is to Mug Odin for 1 Luck J Scroll then refining. Both are similar.
The real question is which way is faster, mugging Odin for 1 Luck J Scrolls every 20 minutes or farming for curse spikes. I'm assuming farming curse spikes???
I think curse spikes. The odin method is useful earlier on, but can be annoying if you miss the timer.
@@FuzzfingerGaming Yeah, especially that the Odin method is very inconsistant.
I have done a full day of testing with Odin (on the Steam version) and have found no consistent way of doing it.
Note: the timer still runs while the game is paused and if the timer ends while the game is paused, Odin will never attack. You can take as much time and as many actions as you want afterwards to finish him off.
I've got it to work with a normal attack using pause during the animation. But again, no consistency.
Farmed for about hour and got 6 dark matters. Life is good.
If you set the gunblade to auto things go alot quicker. Faster then Quistis Degenerator.
X3 speed? Why not use it?
@@jakerittlinger440 gunblade auto works much quicker with squalls limit break and X3 speed yes
You know that area the mobs are in fixed locations always, right?
can i have it when pandora attacked?
Mug z system from behemoth for speed up? How much you can get from one mug?🤔
If you’re like me and killed Ultima on disc 3 you can force spawn triface on the island closest to heaven by using the hard reset method. Luckily triface is the rare spawn on that island so by saving then quiting then restart your game and start running around the triface will spawn every time. This trick works in every area with different results.
I'm not getting any fixed encounters and I haven't faced Ultima weapon yet.
You need to have Zell in your party before going to ultima weapon . When you get to the part where you need to regulate pressure just ask Zell to force open the door on the bottom and you will get Tri-face fixed encounters .
Hey Fuzz, when are you going to show how to buy max stats (255) decently fast?
gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/197343-final-fantasy-viii/61204515
@@CPTDOOMED thanks for posting the link. Haha, I had already knew how to do that, I was just trying to suggest that fuzz do a video in this series showing others who didn't know how to do it, as it is faster than the devour and TT card methods.
@@tylerthomas9725 lol i figured as much. But you never know.
So is the remaster out? And what platforms are it all on
I am using PC version as ff8 remastered..
@FuzzfingerGaming
As posted on one of your other Vids, your methode is taking a little too long so heres a faster way ;)
You actually never have to leave the Map in the Remaster Version to reset the encounters tho...
How this works (for me, 100% Remaster Version tested)
You reach the map with the first fixed encounters (Tri-Heads)
At the Savepoint there is a fixed encounter right before it
Beat that.
You hit the savepoint > go into your menu > go to the switchmenu > go INTO the switch menu and just quit out of the menu alltogether.
Take a few steps back > BAM fixed encounter again.
This sped up my Darkmatter farming tremendously as i never needed to reset the map by leaving and rejoining.
Sadly this only works for the Tri-Heads
Why you want Dark Matters? Let's say it can be convert further to a load of powerful ability teaching items and magics, That's why it was made to be niche items.
I'm familiar with the hero item, but what the heck is a hero-trial?
It has a chance of working. Like hero, but a chance
It’s supposed to only have a fixed chance of working, but it actually works every time. In effect, it’s the same item taking up a different slot in your inventory.
Lol I was thinking same thing
What if you happen to defeat Ultima Weapon before farming for dark matter? Are there any other way to farm for dark matter so i will have 100?
From what I've read, its easier to literally start the game over because trying to farm that many anywhere else would take like 25x as long.
In your last encounter a mug attempt said it had nothing, then the next one said you'd stolen the curse spikes. Odd.
I think (could be wrong), one of the muggers got hit with the confuse ailment and tried to mug from a party member.
Rinoa got confuse from Poison gas and she attacked Quistis, that was when it said had nothing.
I don't get any enemies on that screen
How you're using thoses specials without using aura or with low hp?
remaster has a mode that lets you do it though it feels super cheaty to use it
Anyone knows where Tri-face can be found?! This method seems to not work for me as Ultima weapon is defeated...
The fixed encounters end after defeating Ultima, and sadly, there's no other method to trigger them again.
Go to Island Closest to Heaven and use the Monteith method. It's slower than the fixed encounters but it's the fastest you''l get Tri-Faces after beating Ultima Weapon.
Why can't I refine my curse spikes?!?!
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How do you do these fixed encounters? Is this in disc 4 or 3 cause in disc 3 I didn't get one encounter there.
You cant get them aftet defeating ultima weapon, but it is available on disk 3
Welp, I still need luck junctions and a few Rosetta stone. Guess it time to start grinding.
You can use the rng to get Rosetta stones at the prisons far earlier in the game
Also, for Luck-J you can mug Odin and run out of time on purpose
Also you can get rosetta stone from esthar city store with named Cheryl's store.. Just keep it try & try even if it's closed..
Ive killed bahamut but i cant get down wit de vine its not der! Am i doin nething wrong??
Try harder, you can get there.
Go outside, ride ragnarok and try reenter again. Should be able to go down the vine now.
get into the ragnarok and talk to invine
@@robot1895 yep, was just about the say this, it's the only thing that worked for me.
I go to the Ragnarok conference room. Works everytime.
When I originally did this on my ps version, I carded them, 100 cards refine into 100 cursed spikes for a boost. I'm re-doing my 100% complete file on my PC. Happy hunting
How do you have Eden if you can't have killed Ultima yet? It levelled up at the last screen
@@hydroweapon Tiamat. You draw Eden from him
@@Kyojinsei yeah I know that but he was facing the Tri face at the time In the DSRF
@@hydroweapon yep, don't beat the deep sea research facility it stays open on disk 4. Get the ragnorok and fly back and mod curse spikes into dark matters. Means you have to go to ultimacia's castle and get up to Tiamat to draw edan
@@Kyojinsei is that on the original or new? Because I don't recall the centre being available on disc 4
Wonder why they put that lvl 100 requirement on Siren in the original game? Seems Abit pointless 😂. Also, shows how powerful card mod is in this game.
If Playing The Original PSX Version A GOOD WAY To Get Siren To Level 100 Is Have It Junctioned To Anyone, And Level ONLY EDEA To Level 100 Without Leveling Anyone Else. It's Not A Problem With Malboros As They Give A Lot Of EXP, Provided You Have Status DEFx4 Set Up Properly. I'm Sure They Did That Because To NOT Have Siren At Level 100 To Make 100 Curse Spikes Into 1 Dark Matter Would Just Be Too Easy.
@Ze TheGame Yeah, Using Card Mod To Make 100 Tri-Face Cards Into 1 Dark Matter(Disc 1) And Galbadia Garden(Disc 2) With The Tri-Faces. For The 1 Dark Matter To Teach Quistis Her BEST BLUE MAGIC Alone Isn't THAT Much A GRIND, The REAL GRIND Is The Luck Up-Farms. For MAG And SPR I Actually Used The Behemoths And Malboros With Devour. MAG And SPR Is A LITTLE FASTER That Way Compared To Card Farming For THOSE, Actually.
@Ze TheGame Magic Isn't TOTALLY Useless, Quistis's Blue Magic And Rinoa's Wishing Star Damage Is Based On That Stat Actually(And I'm Sure There's Others). HP is One Of The Easier Stats To MAX(Along With STR) However If Leveling, Without The HP Bonus Stat Your BASE HP Would Be Like 4000+.
What disk can you farm dark matter?
Disc 3. Once you get the Ragnarok.
Morning Fuzz, Nice to see you!
Morning :-)
Curse spikes= dientes sangrientos(?)
Using the rare monster save and white trick you can kill a level 100 tri face about every 20 seconds on heaven island for 8 cursed spikes per drop.
I should say with status attack death attached and it appears to work 100% of the time
Took me just under 8 mins to collect 100 curse spikes in 3x mode. I was consistently getting 6 - 8 spikes a mug. Got shock wave and a few hundred Ultima in no time, Awesome!
is there a free site where i can DL the remastered version of ff8