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I want to point out that Alfas are not as problematic as many people think, even of this age. If we're talking about electrical faults then its Audis that suffer more but they still aren't bad either.
My Alfa was the most reliable car ive ever had. My vws have given me the most trouble out of everything.
Exactly. Nuff said
Electrics hardly an issue. Check clutch as DMF expensive to replace, make sure belt/water pump been replaced recently, floorpans can rust and suspension made of cheese so check for knocks from ARB links and squeaky upper/lower arms.
>Diesel
>Hot hatch
Pick one.
Fucking nice car for a diesel hatch tho
Yes yes yes. The old reviews are back with the walk around. Good stuff Jamie.
Had a 156 with the same engine. Utter joy to drive and pulls great, and I covered 1200km's on 1 tank (and that's driving it with a heavy ish foot) Adored the way it looked, drove and handled. Is by far the best handling car I've ever driven. Turns in like a go-cart and the steering gives you feedback of every little minor uneven bump in the road.
Have to say that these cars are more likely to suffer issues with suspension and rust than electrics. Was sadly in a crash with mine where the lower wishbone snapped right off.
Turns out mine had so much hidden rust that my right side was completley crumbled and made the car not even worth fixing.
I really like this review. I heard good stories about this facelift Alfas, bulletproof Fiat diesel engines, good handling and quality ride. It is such a shame that they 10+ years old right now...
Good video mate
Everything covered nicely for people needing the basic info wich is wot majority of you tubers want
I’m buying a 147 twinspark 1.6 Lusso edition this weekend so yeah enjoyed watching
Nice one 👌
Great video mate. I had one of these until 2015. Still regret selling it. I ran it from 60k to 130k. Problems? None. Apart from a glow plug light. I'm actually thinking of getting a late model jtd colezzione to replace my mini cooper, which drinks oil and is nothing but trouble. Like the video format too!
Been subscribed for a couple of years, and this style of content is why I subscribed, love the change back to this type of reviewing.
A very good one take,lots of info on the car and nice to see a daley driver been given the once over by your self,there are some great cars around the £1000 price tag and would be great to to see more,but keep the epic cars for the cinematic shoot's👍
I've ran one for 3 years. Solid engine that just pulls. Without the soundtrack but huge torque and responsive. Needs a bit of looking after, suspension can be a pain. I get 60mpg and power when I need it and it's cost me sod all.
Cheers for the review, I'm considering to buy one of with this exact diesel engine. People think it's not that fast, but this diesel engine goes to 0-100 in 8,8 sec, with a bit of tuning 6 something wouldn't be impossible. And diesel engines are allot more stronger and reliable than petrol, at least when u buy high milage ones. There are almost no reviews for Alfa 147's that doesn't include the GTA version, and I havent found a good one for the diesel version except this one. Subbed!
Nice to see something other than a focus rs on the channel Jamie. Work colleague had a petrol one of these was suprised how nice it was inside
Reviews of diesels would be great
Mondeo ST, Ibiza Cupra, 330d, etc.
It's good you've gone back to the old style of shooting like you started off with it's refreshing to see
Jeremy clarkson and and the top gear killed alfa off. They told everybody they break down all the time and people believed them. They are great cars.
Yeah my mums had a 147 2.0 t spark for years and its never broke down at all...
They also praised them A LOT.
Clarkson says you're not a real petrol head until you've owned an Alfa, he loves em!
They raved about them actually. It's more jumping online and reading the stories about failing electrical connectors (what other car do you need to solder the connections because the factory connector is flaky?), plastic water pumps, suspension bushes made of cheese that wear out every 50,000miles, radiators and thermostats every 60,000miles et cetera that put people off buying a FWD-era Alfa Romeo TBH. The stories about the 75 & Alfetta are even worse and enough to make you buy a 1980's BMW instead, despite the better Busso engine of the Alfa. :/
Yes, they joked about reliability problems and talked about cars from 25-30 years ago, when ALL cars were shit. It was lazy journalism.
Why do people when reviewing Alfa go on about electrical problems ........ its not as common for an alfa to have electrical problems as say the French cars .....but no one mentions it ..............
and the "alfa lifestyle" .......there are no more broken alfas than any other brands of car ........
I love these, I owned a 16v diesel M-jet for 2 years and it was brilliant. Steering was incredible, super mid range and economical. Mine needed a new clutch but that wasn't badly priced. Of all the cars I've owned, my 147 is probably the one that surprised me most with just how good it was! 👍
You need to do a Fabia VRS 1.9 tdi mk1
Great one take review jamie nice to see a longer review again on a car
From the end of the 80s the electrical on Alfas hasn't been too bad electrically. My 2000 156 T.Spark hasn't had too much wrong with it. A corroded connection in the one tail light and a burnt out fan resistor is about the only thing I can remember doing. Overall a lovely car.
Like the double camera views and the one-take format. Keep up the good work Jamie. 😎👍
Best car in the world! Just upgraded to a Alfa Gt BlackLine 👌💪🏼
You can't get a good 147 for 1000. It will knock and clunk and you will hate it. Spend 3-4000 and you really get a nice example. Electrics are fine, it's just a misconception. Front suspension arms are more prone to going bad tho
I think the camera angles should be the other way round a big view out the front windscreen and little view of you speaking . Love the vids tho fyd
Good to see the walk a arounds again
Great video! Love to see more affordable daily drivers 👍
Matt Farah yeah ? 😂😂
Xenon Games TST is the best car channel on TH-cam maybe FYD will get there someday too 👍
Alfa’s are fantastic. Style wise they get better and they’re full of character. The 3.0 V6 engine is one of the best, loved mine. Would definitely have another and incidentally the 147 is available as a 3.7 tuned petrol if you are mental enough to drive one.
I’ve got a Alfa Romeo 147 Q2, 1.9 JTDM remapped to 181bhp
MrCharlan1 Nice, I just got a 147 Q2 Ducati Corse last week and had it remapped, very impressed with it.
Wanted info about Focus ST? Dang! - there you go - Jamie made an episode. How about Fiesta ST or Alfa 147 1.9? Please, there you go :). You didn't disappoint me :D Cheers!
i had a alfa 147 2L twin spark was a lovely car shifted aswell gear box did end up going tho
Btw thats the same engine which vauxhall has used in the astra and vectra the 1.9 cdti 148hp
Of all the Alfa's I've had which is alot I've never had electrical issues , suspension arm issues yes door handles breaking etc but never ever mechanical or electric problems
Great video mate nice to see the walk around again keep up the good work
I liked the review, clinical like a young James May. Look forward to the next one!
I've had several Alfas including a 164, 156s, and now a 147, and despite the reputation (gained in the 180s and early 1990s) the electrics are no worse than most. I've had far more hassle with VWs when it comes to reliability. My current 147 JTD 16v has the same 150bhp lump as this one, and I'm getting 50+mpg average commuting on the Isle of Wight, which is better than anything else I've had with 4 wheels, even a 900 Cinquecento. The biggest problem I've had with the 147/156 is front suspension wishbone wear, which is very common.
Awesome car. Can be very reliable if serviced well and things like suspension sorted out. Loads of torque great engine and a double wishbone set up and no money. Who wants more?
I almost bought a 1.6 T-spark this morning for £400! Still drove great, even with 145,000 miles on the clock! Everything worked too, all the electrics, other than a couple of sidelight bulbs having blown! That was showing 40mpg on the trip computer too, n that's a 1.6 petrol!!! Why didn't I buy it? The engine was tappety and a CV joint was knocking around roundabouts. Still a lot of car for a mear £400 though!
Mine's a Twin Spark petrol engine which is even cheaper. The car is beatiful and reliable. I'd really recommend it foreveer.
I just bought one of these with a petrol engine and semi-auto gearbox with low mileage and price and in excellent condition... What a bargain for the price, I just love it
How has the car treated you since? Any major problems?
@@ballstank3904 you don't wanna know.
@@monsieurbrochant7528 oh no....do tell. Im thinking of getting one as a run around car
@@ballstank3904 I broke two engines, first one the very day I bought the car, I don't even know why I even wrote this comment. Second engine burned gas and oil as hell and rod bearings broke after 50.000 km. Lovely car to drive and very comfortable. But the TS engine is made of cheese
@@monsieurbrochant7528 fck bro....i feel for ya man. I think youve made my decision easier to pass on the 147. Appreciate the replies. All the best
GOTTA LOVE AN ALFA
I have a 2003 mk4 Gt Tdi 1.9t 150bhp remapped safely to 170 bhp and I fucking love that car lovely noise out of her too ☺
Your right into this smoking tyre one take shit like.
probably best value of all cars right now, if you find a really nice maintained one... parts are plenty and cheap and not really much problems with these cars.
Great to see the walkarounds. Should see reviewing a brera (might of misspelt)
150bhp with 42psi?
How do you get such little power from so much boost?
MrNelietis yeah true i had a hybrid turbo on a Mark 4 Golf pd130 and got 247bhp from 19psi that thing was totally mental. I miss that car lol
MrNelietis 42 psi haha rods would be saying hi that's for sure..
jsnax12345 honestly it avg 30 psi and max boost 42 (3 bar) overboost .
alexgillies shouldn't need to run that much to achieve 150hp lol must have a dodgy eBay gauge or very poor tuning.. 42psi is like what Cummings diesels run and make over 300hp... I would say looking at the video it's running no more than 15psi tbh.. also what turbo ?
jsnax12345 standard turbo go look up these engines and the standard boost if you don't believe
If I can get my car ready on time I have a Seat Leon mk1 Cupra 1.8T remap at about 215 bhp-ish
I'm sorry but as much as I love the 147, I can't bring myself to buy a diesel. If I'm getting a 147, which I will, it's going to be a 2.0 Twin Spark.
love my alfa 147 jtd goes like a bat out of hell
Hey mate, would love some more info on the mods done to the Alfa. I have an 07 JTDm, I was so excited when I saw you had done this review! Cheers!
AdamPJH that's all it's had is egr straight pipe decat and a tickle more boost
i had a 147 lusso for my first car. heated heats, bose sound system etc. i was getting 17.2 mpg
17.2 mpg?! What engine?!
if you enjoyed the 147 , youll love my slightly tuned 159 Ti sportsWagon 2.0 jtdm
You should review a 159 2.4 jtdm or the brera they are quick and make a very nice noise for a diesel.
Good video Matt....i mean Jamie
I'd love to see you one take a VW lupo.. I had a 1.4 as my first car just sold it but it was a great laugh with so much character
I'm looking for my first car, was gonna get a lupo/arosa 1.4 but I just found how cheap these 147s are. Looking for either one now
i have this car!!! great car
You should try review a petrol version or the 147 GTA would be nice to see
Same Z19dth engine as Astra, Vectra, SAAB, Fiat. Issues with EGR and swirl flaps common.
Possible to get well over 200bhp with right mods.
pt197472 300 is possible with a hybrid
My 147 Ducati Corse 1.9 jtdm mapped to 211 and 325lbs torque. Not the max, but ok.
Had 7 different Alfa's and only one gave me any problems.
Just found these on AutoTrader and they look like fantastic little cars, very cheap as well. However, 1.9 150hp which could up the insurance a lot. Would you consider them as great first cars for someone like me who's about to take they're driving test?
Would love to have something like this in the States
Just import one then
Big Fan of your review ! :p
i'm looking at 159's so if you could get one of those on here i'd love it!
James Bethell I second that! Maybe a sportswagon...?
The 159 is shit. Too heavy, horrible gearbox and they replaced the wonderful Alfa T.S 4cyl and Busso 6cyl engines with horrible GM-lumps. Get a proper 156 instead.
Nakke144 is shit. The 159 is lighter than any equivalent German car, great gearbox, far nicer looking inside & outside than the 156 and it isn't a deathtrap like the 156.
That's like saying someone is lighter than a fat person. Expensive German saloons are overweight as hell. The 159 was pretty shit when it was new, and it's completely shit these days. The manual gearboxes are sloppy and horrible and the automatics are shocking. The JTS-engines are completely gutless despite using a lot of fuel. The diesel engines are actually quite good, but the 1.9 is underpowered and the 2.4 makes the already shit handling car too nose-heavy. The 4wd version weighs as much, and drives like a boat and the GM V6 engine is shit. Not a good car, and never was.
So you expect mid-2000s practical somewhat luxury saloon cars with 5 star safety to weigh less than a Lotus Elise or something? Cars got heavier in the 2000s, you need to accept that and applying exclusive low weight targets to the 159 in order to criticise it.
"The manual gearboxes are sloppy and horrible"
What does this mean?
I'll agree the petrol engines aren't technically good but they're enjoyable to drive at least. 1.9 is no more underpowered than any other rival diesel. I suppose if the 2.4 makes the "already shit handling car" (false) too nose-heavy then we should save anything above a 1.2 for mid-engined supercars. I mean, a C63 AMG is going to be much better balanced isn't it - what a piece of shit! You're just regurgitating the same nonsense the reviewers do.
I would also say at £1k price you'll really want the clutch/dmf to have been done obv. Not worth putting in the extra cash and paying for it on top.
Not another review!? I was hoping to see more of the ford focus rs revving
When’s your shop open ? Currently in Isle of Wight and wanted to drop by :-)
Great video mate I'm not even arsed if you're copying Matt farah I like the move affordable reviews compared to mad tuned cars
You'll struggle to get a decent 16v JTDM for £1K...
I’ve got a 1.6 petrol 2003 147, first car ;p
Also, was only £500 and I’ve had nothing break on it
1.6, must be a good deal on insurance
Same here aha, I swapped out the og front bumper to a gta look one, SuperSprint back box with a Raggazon centre pipe and K&N typhoon kit - Check it out see what you think on my insta - herschybar
Any good? Am considering one, insurance may be the killer though
Callum Mccubbing, the insurance is quite fair. Learners insurance was £750 and full insurance is £1500. I was guarantied to get an Alfa for my first car as my mother has a V6 GTV and my dad has a 159 TI
Ayy, my first car Alfa 147 1.6 Ti
Great stylish car. Thumbs up.
Its great , but just put one part and that its that you dont talk just drive for couple of minute at and of video , so we can hear engin
The electrics on Alfas are all German: Bosch(!?) makes you think no?
Would like to see a review on a Astra gtc sri 2.0 cdti 160/165 bhp, I own one would like to know your opinion
Do a saxo vts
Italian Cars are the most sweet Designed and Sporty Beautyful Cars on World and Comfortable And the Sitting Position Amazing and ALFA ROMEO I LOVE
More diesel hot hatches!!
Seat Leon 2.0 TDI FR 170hp are good diesel sport hatch
Yeah but they are too expensive
Jarrus Killa Astra 1.9 CDTI SRi 150hp are good alternative
fuck vauxhall shit
IceFIsh Good cheap cars if you ask me
I got the 1.9 CDTI 150hp Vectra cheap insure, reliable and its quick
Btw this alfa engine is the same which are used in vauxhall astras
@11:53 Wow, are early 2000s Diesel for you Brits really cheap to run? Isn't there a ban for old Diesels? Alfa Romeo means BMW rates for labour and spare parts
42PSIg....never
42PSIa......yes
overboost at 27psi on a gt1749v is pretty much standard procedure
Its dank but reliability?
So what he's done is fit a straight pipe and egr delete and boost gage and then read the gage wrong because there's no way it's 42 psi 😂
No remap so it's still slow 150bhp
PSI ? ! Who uses PSI these days ?? Bar init
your trying hard not to love it ... just admit it :)
There is Brera, why need to review this
Enlgish Matt Farah?🤔
Isn't this your third one take?!?
That Alfas are problematic is a hoax, they are as any other car if not maintained properly... things to be changed periodically without skipping should be the distribution and the whole clutch-flywheel kit, expensive, but it’ll keep you out of trouble
I want one
with this engine, not many kms, these still go for 7k around here...if they were going for 1k i'de get 2 spare ones LOOL
Where the hell are you?
Norway?
nope, Portugal
Backend looks like an Ibiza 6L
You mean the back end of the 6L Ibiza looks like the 147. This car came first.
Why this why not just get a little a3 with a turbo
silent gamer perhaps he wants to stand out a little from the sea of dull tacky miserable boring Audi a3s which also the are just as cheap and they are just as unreliable if not more
Why so salty it's just my opinion
these are GT seats!!
Got enough air fresheners in there? haha
TotalMorgo was a fresh one put in for the day
TotalMorgo - there's 2 mate, calm down.
I was joking. Get a grip.
TotalMorgo You should see mine. A lot more than 2 😂
citroen c4 coupe
41psi??lol cool video ..
Jesus man if you had your seat tilted any further back a barber could wash your hair in the back there
Old Diesel Merc
Some how I can't see that engine working with 42psi of boost Jesus Haha turbo probably couldn't develop that much boost!
lpggriff do some research on this engine then come back
alexgillies turbo reliability will not be very good, not exactly designed to work at such a ridiculous amount of boost
Sounds slot on a standard turbo tbf, surprised it hasn't blew yet.. but then again.. might have had a turbo upgrade in its time: