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Canon 80D vs. 70D (Is It Worth The Upgrade?)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- Canon just announced the successor to the 70D, aptly named the Canon 80D. They also announced a couple cool new accessories as well, the PZ-E1 Powered Zoom and the DM-E1 Directional Microphone. More on those in a bit.
Canon has enhanced both the still and video features in their upgrade from the 70D to 80D, a list of which can be seen below.
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📦 Product Highlights
* 60 FPS & 50 FPS at 1080p (70D only 720p at 60 FPS)
* 24.2 Mp vs. 20Mp
* New battery: LP-E6N, but is backwards compatible with regular
LP-E6's.
* Extra Custom Setting on Mode Dial
* Headphone jack added (and is now angled to help with having the screen flipped out)
* Continuous Autofocus in Live View Mode while taking stills
* 45 autofocus points vs. 19 on the 70D
* 80D adds NFC (Near Frequency Communication) to the wifi already included in the 70D
* Still has the touch screen autofocus while recording video
* Built-in mic is moved to the front
* Higher maximum ISO
* New 18-135mm kit zoom lens with Nano USM (faster AF)
* New PZ-E1 Power Zoom Adapter ($150)
* New DM-E1 Shotgun Microphone ($250)
While the new features have gone a long way to improving some of Canon’s weakest points it is also important to note what is lacking, here are the main videos features I was hoping for.
* No 4K Video Recording
* No Canon Log "flat" picture profile
* No Focus Peaking
* No Zebra exposure warnings
* No clean HMDI output for external recording
Auto Focus
Canon has completely rebuilt the auto focus system and how it functions. With stills you now have more focus points, 45 to be exact. Combining this with the enhancements of the Al Servo AD II system to a 7560-pixel RGB+IR metering sensor means that you can better track subjects as they move through the frame. It is also important to note that Canon has improved the low light capability (something I have always felt was one of Canon’s weakest points) and expanded the ISO range.
PZ-E1 Powered Zoom Accessory
Canon is trying to keep up with Sony, who have been adding zoom functionality to their lower-level cameras for some time now. With the PZ-E1 Powered Zoom Accessory you can easily zoom manual lenses, which makes it a great addition for video use. However there are two main caveats, (1) the adapter does not work with all canon lenses. Canon actually created a new EF-S18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS USM Lens with a Nano USM focusing motor to work in conjunction with the new zoom accessory. And (2) this adapter does not come with the 80D. Indeed the best features of the 80D, the PZ-E1 Powered Zoom Accessory and the DM-E1 Directional Microphone are add ons. The PZ-E1 is going to set you back an additional $150.
DM-E1 Directional Microphone
This is Canon’s first external shotgun microphone made for DSLRs. They are looking to take market share in the audio industry by improving upon their in-camera microphones. The new DM-E1 Directional Microphone most resembles the RODE VideoMicro microphone. One neat feature of the new DM-E1 is that it has it’s own power source and is not reliant on the camera’s new LP-E6N battery. Also a nifty feature is that, when connected to the camera the microphone’s power will turn off when you turn off the camera. This is great on a personal level because I tend to forget to turn off my RODE VideoMicPro and have to buy more batteries than I should. Adding the DM-E1 Directional Microphone onto your purchase of the 80D will cost you an additional $250.
Final Thoughts
Without 4K, Canon log, focus peaking, zebras and an HDMI out for external monitoring the new 80D is not a serious contender for those looking to mostly use the camera for professional video production. It is still a great camera for TH-camrs and Vlogging though.
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A.D.D. or 80D. Say it fast. A.D.D. 80D
+starr shine exactly. first thing i noticed
You do know that it's pronounce A.T.D. not A.D.D. right?
+instantsiv Potato Potato.
+Caleb Wojcik You're gonna review a potato? Yay!
Thats mighty american accent for you
many thanks Ill stick with the 70D for now :) great review :)
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Excellent comparison, thank you. The Canon 70D and 80D with the 18-135mm lens were just $100 apart on Amazon ($1199 vs $1299). I just got the last one at this pricing, so the 80D just shot up to $1399. I was ready to get the 70D due to Casey Neitstat's bad experience with the 80D, but I figured that's because he got an early model so by now all the bugs should be fixed. Thanks to this review and some of the other glowing reviews I spent the extra $100 and got the 80D!
Cuban Rider How is it?
Also Canon 70D video test th-cam.com/video/hiI3YHXiJm8/w-d-xo.html
I own a 70D and without 4K video I don't see the need to upgrade.
+Lorenzo Cheatham Agreed.
The new Canon 80d should be called the 70d ii. For the considerable increase in cost over the 70d I would buy the 70d and a lens for the same price.
+tclarke971 Yep, that's what I'd do.
I loved your video and it is so helpful. May I add a side note? Please don't think I am a fanboy. I agree with everything but you said the camera lack of some stuffs that other brands has. Do you really think that customers need it? I mean how many people watch stuff on 4K. It is so expensive for the viewer and also to have a machine to edit. C-log makes our life better but we can just film in cinestyle and add a lut. For the rest, regular costumers wont need need them like the c-log and if you are an expert, you will know sufficiently to not blow a highlight for example. Back to my question, people really don't need it. It is just my opinion, sorry if I sound disrespectful.
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+Alexandre Brum Really good points. Our next video that comes out on Tuesday is about whether you should shoot in 4K yet or not, so I'll hold off on that.
The other features (focus peaking, zebras, shooting in log) are all features that I've come to expect out of a camera and it isn't that I can't film without them, but rather that I can film better and quicker with them. You know something is in focus. You know your exposure is set properly. You know you can apply a LUT quickly to an actual log profile made by the manufacturer to get the most out of a camera (vs. a cinestyle hack).
Are they necessary? No. Should they be features in a video camera at this price point? I think so.
Caleb Wojcik Agree with you. Very interesting points. They should change or will be like Nintendo very distant from reality. I will stay tuned and we will discuss more when your video will be released.
+Alexandre Brum Hi,
4k is an interesting point of argument because it is absolutely useless and yet it is also useful.
Some thoughts that should be kept in mind about 4K
-4k for viewing is mostly useless because the resolution is higher than the human eye can resolve in normal circumstances (www.dr-lex.be/info-stuff/ultrahighdef.html. The relative resolution would be higher than on a apple retina screen smartphone if the content is watched in a living room on a typical 40-60" TV
-4k might be useful for recording, post processing and downscaling to 1080p as the lost by processing can be reduced
-4k requires too high data streams for being streaming on the Internet and are very demanding on SD cards.
This is a bit more complected as obviously 4k recording is even offered by some smartphones. First, consider the bit-rate of a 1080p24 Bluray, which is in the order of 4.5 Mb/s. A camera is not able to compress as efficiently as the processing power is limited and furthermore the camera cannot run a two-pass encoding procedure, as it needs to record live. So the camera will require a larger bit-rate. Currently canon records at at 5.5 Mb/s for 1080/25p. For 4k-the bit-rate would quadruple and if you want 60p - which does make a difference, the rate would approximately double again. so we are talking of approximately 20-40Mb/s. An hour video would be 72-144 Gb. The fast SD cards available are just capable of recoding at that speed. So it would be possible to realize 4k recording in Canon DSLR. However, if you look closely at your videos at 1080p with non-still subjects, you will see compression artifacts at the pixel level. So it would be more reasonable to increase the bit-rate of 1080p30/60 instead of bumping the resolution. As the compression will kill the advantage of the gained resolution. Finally, the 4k-stuff is supposed to be streamed via TH-cam. Most people do not have a line offering more than 50Mbit/s (about 6 Mb/s just capable of streaming bluray quality 1080p24). In fact most people must probably live with 10-20Mbit/s. And many of use are sharing that line with their family. Hence, currently you cannon transfer 20-40Mb/s it is more int he order of 1/10 - and that is still very demanding for many internet connections. Hence, youtube and Co. are compressing the 4k-stuff a lot giving you probably no advantage over 1080p - if it was streamed at the same bitrate. So I must admit, that proving all of this is not straight forward and my explanation/language is not the best. But just think about the math.
In short I would say 4k is the new 3D in home video - it would not expect wide adaption. In other words, for most people (those who do not by dedicated cameras for >$1000 or top of the line smartphones) will not care for 4k. They take it if available but will not make it a criteria for choice. In my eyes canon would be much better of by offering higher color depth (beyond 8bit/pixel) for HDR higher frame rates for better slow-mo (why not 120p or 240p).
In very short and provoking; 4k is a marketing hype in consumer graded products including DSLRs and does not give you any better video results.
So my two cents as a long time canon user (to avoid fan-boy :-)). I use the canon mirror less eos-m (alongside my good old 50D with magnesium alloy body and not that modern plastic stuff ;-)). And I would like higher bit-rates on my videos instead of higher resolution. However, here - and hopefully at your place too - it is a free country and you can like/buy/require whatever you like. But math does not lie and I can only encourage everybody really think about the math behind for 4k recording ;-).
best regards to all
PS: I have never had a high-end Sony camera, but I do believe people that it is better suited for video as this is not the strong point of the Canon DSLR. But I don't think that 4k is the center stone of Sony's success in especially the video capabilities of its cameras.
PPS: Nice video. Your comparison is solid and informative for people trying to compare the specs of the cameras. I like it, as it is quite neutral and leave the choice to the viewer with good arguments .
+Alexandre Brum you don't buy a expensive camera to use one or two year. You buy for a long time, and you can be sure 4K will very soon become one of those things you don't understand how you lived without it ; - )
I have both the 80d and 70d. Have used the 70d for several years and have always loved its color profile and accurate exposure. A couple of things I've noticed about the 80d ... it slightly overexposes, by about 2/3 to 1 stop. Also, the color profile for the 80D is different. It seems to have a more neutral look that lacks the typical stronger red saturation of Canon bodies that we have all been familiar with. Personally, I prefer the default color profile of the 70d. Beautiful in my opinion, no adjustments needed . For these two reasons I'm still on the fence about whether I want to keep the 80d or get another 70d as a backup.
70D had a *Continuous AF in photo mode* , which means I could start 2/10sec timer and move/walk round and the camera will track my face right until the shot is taken. This is important for selfie thumbpick creation if you are a vlogger / one-man videomaker. E.g. 200D (SL2) can not do that (it freezes the focus when the timer starts). I did not see such option in 80D menus over reviews. Is it working the way 70D does or it's like 200D?
I finally bought 80D and figured out myself - it does not have C-AF. It has Servo. So the selfie-trick I described above is only available in 70D. Shame.
Anyone know an efficient post-prod workflow with 80D video ? preferably with premiere pro
The 1080p offered here is not one and the same compared to past cameras. They now offer more bitrate options along with full 1080p slow motion. I could honestly care less about 4K, I know a lot of people are saying that's the deal breaker in this case, but I have very little interest in bogging down my workflow with excessive resolution. 4K is not a good selling point for me. Improved dynamic range is.
Canon giving some expanded video options is what I'm really excited about, including finally including a headphone jack. I will be excited about 4K once the average consumer can actually view and appreciate it at full quality, but most of my stuff is viewed on mobile and the web. For now, I'm happy with having higher bitrate video and more options to work with.
+Dan Callahan Great points Dan. Thanks for chiming in.
*The 70D has continuous auto focus on the live view mode too!
I thought so too!
+Shendrew Balendran While taking photos? (Not video)
@@CalebWojcik Yes. And *80D does NOT have C-AF, it has Servo* - so you have to keep shutter button (or AF-ON) half-pressed for continuous focusing in Live View. In 70D it is just like in the video - when enabled C-AF works all the time by itself. That's a shame Canon removed it from 80D, but they returned it to EOS R as far as I know.
well instead of getting an 80D with a 18-135mm usm which will cost you about 1600 bucks you can get a 70D with 18-135mm stm refurbished (879 bucks from canons site) or used/open box kinda deals (between 700 and 1000 from various sites) and you will save between 600-900 dollars which you can invest on a second lens maybe even a 3rd. and instead of an 80d with a 18-135mm you can have a 70D with an 18-135mm, a 24-105mm f/4L IS USM, a 24mm f/2.8 STM and if you look for good deals you will still have money left over. im personally looking for a used 70D and am hopeful to get one for under or around 700 bucks with an 18-135mm stm and since i was looking to spend about 1000-1200 i still have money in my budget to get a second lens maybe even a third. if there was 80Ds with those kind of deals i would look for that but there isnt any, there was one that was going for 950 dollars brand new with 18-55mm but i was too late someone else bought it before me even that was a real catch i would have saved over 600 dollar that i could have used to get a 55-250mm and a third lens.
I just got the 70D with the 18-55mm for 650 , refurbished. Thanks a lot.
Really good points Ahmet. I am totally in favor of buying used and going with the previous generation. You'll save money you can invest in better audio, lighting, lenses, etc. Thanks for chiming in!
i just bought a 70d w/ 18-135mm stm used with less than 7k shutter count with an extra battery and a lens hood for $802 including shipping and taxes. it was delivered on monday and for the past 2 days ive been really using the camera and its practically new and i love it. if i wanted to buy that whole set up brand new it would have cost me over $1,550 including the battery the hood taxes and shipping. thats nearly double what i paid for my setup. since i was thinking about spending about 1000-1200 i could get a canon 24mm f2.8, 50mm f1.8 and maybe even a third lens and still be within my budget. if i had bought a new camera i would have been a few hundered bucks over my budget without the 3 extra lenses i could buy. also to emphasize this i gotta mention it again, the camera and the lens are so lightly used, no scratches on anywhere, everything works perfectly, if you put it next to a brand new out of box 70d you would be able to tell which one is used.
Fastdounut TV exactly and even that comes with a warranty and you saved about 600 bucks. that could buy you a used L lens like a 24-105mm f/4L USM. if you add a few bucks to it you could get a Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6L IS USM which is one of those white L lenses and you'll look cool as hell :D
NFC = Near Field Communications Nice review!
Does the 80D and the 70D for that matter, do they both have a time-lapse feature?
Google intervalometer! Thanks me later ,)
Hey, awesome video! Can someone help me to pick the camera? 70D's price is okay for me but there is huge difference between 70D and 80D. Only think that confuses me is 70D has 20 mega pixels and 80D has 24. Does that 4 megapixels affect the picture quality that much? Thanks
Not unless you're going to blow up pictures. 20 is more than enough for someone who's doing casual photography.
unless you are cropping a LOT, the 70d is fine. Videowise you might go 80d as it supports 1080 60fps while 70D does 720p at 60fps
Pixel pitch is higher in 70d hence cropping a 70d picture would retain more data compared to 80d. its the same sensor size just a boost in mpx size. Hence i would feel 70d would be a hair sharper when cropped and in terms of printout i dont see a major difference. ofcourse 80d is a lot newer, but lacks many important video specs..
I've heard the USM is louder than the STM. STM was geared towards videos for continuous autofocus. So the USM is then, faster but at the cost of being louder. Is the USM lens really that much louder that it may pay to get an STM instead? Or is the difference negligible?
Also, there is an anti-flicker mode (surprisingly wasn't mentioned!), that's only for photo mode, not video mode, correct? I am trying to figure a way to get rid of flicker in videos when recording projectors/lights etc.
+Sammy Goris Yes, USM lenses are a little louder when focusing. If you record your sound separately from the camera you shouldn't have to worry though.
And yes, there is anti-flicker added to photos, but not video. To get rid of flicker in video it is all about hertz & framerates.
Nice job Caleb. I'm sticking with my Canon 70D as it handles the creation of my TH-cam videos quite well.
+PinnacleStudioPro Sounds good! Save the upgrade money for a new lens, lighting, or audio.
The deal breaker to me was the 1080p 60fps! I'm going for the 80D now !
KingsmanXV did you go for 80D? Planning to upgrade from 70D to 80D just for 60 FPS FHD..
I shoot so many videos with my 70D and the video autofocus ALWAYS breaks down after a couple of months (has trouble focusing even on my face as I sit and speak - goes in and out of focus). Do you think the 80D has fixed this issue? I know this was a defect with the earlier 70D releases that I'm not sure Canon ever fixed with the later releases of the 70D.
Did you have any problems with overheating?
Shopper Mandy I haven't noticed that yet. My 70 is a Canon refurb though so it may have been addressed then.
Hai I am going to purchase a Camera for Wedding Photography.. Shell i proceed with 80D
Near Field Communication (NFC)
Boom. Thanks. I was close.
+Caleb Wojcik Also, using NFC only sets up the WiFi connecton for you. Transferring images doesn't use NFC, it's only for establishing the connection. Still very handy.
that's what i was thinking too.
+William Lee Dear photo guru, can someone explain me how can I stream a video from 70D on the Periscope??? thank you in advance
Stanislav Didenko You can't currently use a different camera for Periscope.
So the 70d doesn't already have that autofocus that 80d has or does it? What would be a good vlogging lens for the 70d that'd always auto focus on me?
If you are only interested in video, the 80D is definitely better, but only a little. It has improved dual pixel AF which allows you to change the AF speed when pulling focus. So when you focus on one thing and want that smooth cinematic shift of focus to another thing - the 80D gives you 9 or 10 different speeds to do this. It also locks focus and tracks subjects noticeably better than the 70D does. You can also fully control video remotely with the smartphone app which you couldn't with the 70D. It also has 1080p at 60fps, a headphone jack and HDR video shooting.
Now if you're into photography as well then they are worlds apart! The 80D has an all-new sensor which has a far greater DR and so is vastly superior at recovering shadow details without introducing noise or banding. That feature alone makes it worth the extra money. However, it has 45pt AF instead of the 70D's 19pt AF and autofocuses in much lower light! It has new and improved exposure metering which is fantastic. Its buffer is 50% improved over the 70D, so you can shoot 25 raw files in a burst instead of around 16. As a photo camera it is way ahead of the 70D.
Thanks for the helping out cooloox.
No worries, glad to help out. 🙂
It should be noted that 80D only allows to change the AF speed in flexizone single mode. It doesn't let you change the speed in flexizone multi or facetracking modes.
Is the 80d built in Mic stereo to the one side?
The 70d looks like two mics stereo up top left and right
What should I get if I'm not totally happy with the EOS M3 video?
Very helpful ! Im getting the 70d tommorrow 👍🏽
Denisse Makeup Lover hi, did u get the 70D? If not I'm selling my near new mint condition 70D only has 2000 actuation count. They r rated for 1K-150K. Let me know if your interest I can send u pics. Thanks
Jake Lozano nice
How's ur camera after 3 years?
@@kaziprokriti1513 still amazing!☺️
Just bought 70d today...didn't know about the 80d however, I haven't really got into video recording but from what I've research the 70d is great for video.
Thanks it was helpful....#teamcanon70d.
+Carmen Richardson Nice hashtag. ;) Yeah, the 80D doesn't change too much. The headphone jack is the biggest change in my opinion.
70D new 749.99 hard to pass that up if comparing between getting a 70 or 80D. I personally think the 70d might be a better buy and wait for the 90d or something.
+Recon9143 Yeah, quite a price jump.
+Recon9143 Where can I find a new 70D for $750? Thanks in advance
+FoodFolksandGuns ebay from stores. www.ebay.com/itm/Canon-EOS-70D-Body-20-2-MP-Digital-SLR-Camera-BRAND-NEW-/221689231524?hash=item339db538a4:g:jlMAAOSwrklU3OhT
Thank you for the quick reply. Is that a gray market camera?
+FoodFolksandGuns No it's a USA camera. There is a bunch of sellers selling brand new ones. All with USA warrantys
Lol the 70D shoots in 1080 @30fps
You have really great audio, how did you capture the audio? What did you use? Great video BTW too very helpful for my next upgrade from you t4i.
+Ryan Saplan Fat Loss Strength Coach Rode NTG-3 (amzn.to/1QqLTgO) directly into the C100 Mark II.
The 70d has 2 built in ( stereo) Mics which I like a lot.
I'm pretty sure 80d has 1 built in Mic mono?
I heard the dynamic range was much improved and that was the main upgrade over the 70D.
+Jeffrey Ringling Without having my hands on an 80D (yet), I didn't want to speculate over the dynamic range without being able to test it. I know in photos the dynamic range performance in RAW files has been improved. I saw how much in this video: th-cam.com/video/AZ_GuG5p44U/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for these specs! I love that you actually created your own video instead of copying Canons, and you nicely explained everything they added very clearly!
+Draunamou Thanks. :) Been trying to experiment with formats a bit and this comparison was an idea I had while watching all the same announcements on every blog/channel just listing features.
just so you guys know, there's 1 factor that made me choose the 80D over 70D is the 100% viewfinder. For some the 2% isn't enough for them to buy it. But hey, I'm using a crop sensor camera and the viewfinder is going to crop it even more is pretty frustrating. But that's just me.
I just bought the 80D because of the SloMo and no one freaking mentioned that it doesn't shoot 60 FPS in the MOV mode, but only in MP4. That's a big thing and I haven't seen even one review that would mention this!!!??? Otherwise I like your video. :)
really? so you did the upgrade and now you are disappointed? i'm trying to figure out if it's worth... Im only interested in the 60fps at 1920x1080px
Was thinking of upgrading to the 80D but I think I will stick to my 70D for now :) Thanks!
+articgoneape You're welcome!
Awesome Video and hit all the points I need to hear. Definitely is going to get tons of views!
+Brenden Bell Thanks! Happy to help.
Hi..... Which one is better canon 80d or 70d
Another big question is whether or not Casey Neistat will upgrade his vlogging rig. // Great video Caleb, thanks!
+Randy and Anna Probably will once he drops and breaks his 70D again.
+Caleb Wojcik 2 camera shops already sent him pre-production 80Ds to use. I think his needs are being well met by gifts.
Do you recommend upgrading from 60D to 80D? I’ve been going back and forth for a week now on IG I should do it or not.
My history:
30D => 40D => 70D => 90D => Nikon (in future ~2021)
The technical jumps in between the cameras were so minor. Even from 70D to 90D, except 4k video. I still have the 40D in my workshop, still makes good photos! On the other side, NIKON makes much better chips... much better cameras (in 2019/20). The only reason I did not switch was that they introduced the new Z-Mount in their camers and then only presenting a very limited set of lenses for it. Only in the next months / years will they become available... So I have to wait :(
What's difference in name of various cameras that canon holds .......3000D / 750D / 80D ....etc ......What is actually means ? Searched online but didn't got anything ....just sales 😓😥
Magic Lantern has solved a lot of these issues (zebras, peaking, headphone monitoring, focus racking & more) for some time now. It's amazing Canon doesn't just include this out of the box. I'm excited to see what the footage of this camera looks like. With the new sensor, it might be noticeably better than the 70D - hopefully, at least.
+Eight Design Yeah, I'm surprised they don't include these basic things either.
I'm asking for your advice I was going to buy the Canon t6s and I'm going to get the Canon 70D instead do you think that's a better choice for 70D
In Dpreview said that 80D sensor is much better than 70D in term of dynamic range. Is it true? If it is true I think 80D is more interesting because the camera is supposed to get the most quality picture, right?
i license my painting images and supply the digital files. I want to use a camera rather than a flat bed scanner (I've been stitiching 6 pieces together) should I go for the higher mp camera or would the 70d be enough? I could take two shots and stitch together will the mp make that much of a difference. My paintings are 36 x 36 inches
Great points. As you mentioned, a lot of TH-camrs or people who record themselves use the 70D for it's best in class head tracking and video autofocus. I use a 60D now and want to start recording myself for a TH-cam series but it doesn't have face detection so I go out of focus by moving my body the slightest bit. The 80D really only improves on those features for that user type, for anyone who is not going to be recording them selves then I would just get a GH4 for this price range... if video is your main concern.
+Jon Edquist Yeah, great points. I own a 60D and while it will track my face, it won't focus unless I push a button to do so.
4K doesn't interest me
Yet.
Michael Didomenico oath
same
Not for professional work
Its 2020👀
would be the 80D recommendable for interviews in my personal studio? I'm affraid it won't stand daily use for video
I'm a pilot and I want to buy a camera to take photos and make videos from the cockpit (both inside the cockpit and through the window on other aircraft), I also want to take photos/videos at my destinations like for vacation or general use. Please tell me which camera is best for me: Canon 7D Mark II, Canon 70D/80D or Canon 6D? Thanks!
The AF-System represents the biggest step forward. If it's worth the upgrade depends on your needs. 45 to 19 AF points and there are still 27 working at f/8. So you can use for example the 100-400 L lens with a 1.4 teleconverter. Even the 7D mk II has only the center AF-point working at f/8, so the 80D is a better camera for bird/nature photography if you depend on focus abilities at f/8, unless you are in die-hard need for the 10 FPS of the 7D mk II.
+Hubieee Yeah, a solid upgrade for photographers. On the video end I would need to test the autofocus on both side by side.
I want to get the 80D, but I do stills, so I am thinking to just wait until the 70D comes down in price because the upgrades don't really apply to me...still not sure!
+Carly Hunt The additional autofocus points are pretty great for photos. I mainly wanted to highlight the video features.
Hi
I mostly use my camera for street photography and landscapes, i also do not record videos that much.
i'm on a tight budget and cannot afford the full frame canon models, i already have 3 different Efs lenses from my rebel T3i and i think its time for an upgrade, would you recommend the 80d? will i notice a huge difference in terms of image quality if i upgrade to this model?
Can someone explain the benifits of these cameras over the full frame 5D such as the mk2, and 3?
adding NFC was silly if you ask me, I mean wifi already gets that job done now I'd like to have the zoom accessory seems like it would work on the 70D
Nfc is a lot easier to setup a connection between devices( tapping your phone to the camera to initiate a connection, rather than digging into the camera wifi menu and finding the specific network), as well as being noticeably less battery intensive for each device, as apposed to wifi.
+David Allen yeah I guess that is true. I don't really use the wifi setting on my 70D but it is good to have, I used it more when I had a t6i. I am sold on the 80d simply for the zoom attachment, I mean for a few bucks more why not!
+THANIO .NET is the optional zoom attachment limited to only this and newer cameras built specifically for it? I was under the assumption that it was lens specific only, and usable with any camera. But then again, we all know where assuming gets you and me 8). And to bring it back to the Near Field Communication ability, just think of how much more you would have used it (over wifi) if all you had to do was tap your phone to your camera after you've turned it on. Side note, I wonder if all this 4k bias, or lack there of that I've seen on TH-cam is due to the fact that every one of the reviewers make videos for a living. So of course they are going to want as much video capabilities as they can get out of a DSLR. I'm finding (somewhat obviously of course) that website only reviewers usually don't take the video capabilities into too much consideration when judging DSLRs. As for me, I find this 80D very attractive with its average video in exchange for better autofocus (on paper at this point anyway).
It also has true time lapse capability. Which is a pretty big deal, but thank you for this review. I've been debating on whether or not to upgrade, but other than the focus points, the increased megapixels, and the time lapse function, I don't see the need to upgrade.
+Nez Yes, built-in time lapse functions are really helpful. No need to pack that intervalometer.
I don't know what this guy is talking about, but this camera "ROCKS!!" I mean the addition of 60p, couple new accesories, slow-mo, headphpone jack, 4.2 megapixels extra, 7 frames per second, it's beyond amazing. I'd rather have this then a creepy 4K recorder which they cannot focus well, don't do well in low light and it's just too blurry (and yet doesn't give you too many megapixels in the camera because you gotta reduce it in order to get that 4K). Soo you're getting much lesser features in order to get that "so called 4K" which you'll be dissapointed, but this camera for the $$ that you're paying it can't be beat!! IT IS WORTH OF UPGRADE.
+Nick Beqiri No doubt the 80D is still a GREAT camera for anyone that picks it up. I'll be doing a full review of the camera shortly after mine arrives in a few days.
The premise of this video was comparing it to the 70D and most people won't notice a difference between using the two.
Thanks for the review. Was really contemplating on which one to get.
bro which one you consider ,, it seemsto be like i 70d is better than 80d to having some 4k video?
The Dual pixel AF is the killer feature of the camera and easily is why you would want this over the 70D. Same as the one in the 1DX mk II. You now have the ability to shoot without a focus pull mechanism and get smooth results with tracking. The 4k omission is a let down as well as no 120fps mode. Maybe the 7D Mark III will have all of that. Now that will be a worthy upgrade.
+James Benet Yeah, the upgrades to the autofocus are nice. I'll need to use them side by side myself to see the real difference.
For 1080p 60FPS and a headphone jack, I think for some filmmakers and videographers this is a good upgrade. The motorized zoom feature would also be great for if you need to change focal length on a jib.
+Kevin Eichelberg Yeah, if you aren't pixel chasing to 4K, this is a good option.
Everywhere I look and see Cannon 70D stats i see 1080P video listed as one of the features.
+IEYE360 To be fair, 1080p video is one of the features of both the 70D and 80D.
what do you suggest the best camera for youtube on 1000$ budget
Thanks Caleb, very helpful. Still working with the 60D so trying to figure out which direction we should go for our videos. This helped. Best, Adrien
+Bad Yogi (BadYogiTV) Unless you need the added autofocus features (like face detection AF), the 60D is still a solid all-around camera.
+Caleb Wojcik Doesn't the 70D/80D focus in general better than the 60D with the dual pixels, not just with face detection AF? I am asking, not stating this as fact. To get any decent focus on the 60D seems like only manual is an option. Form a 60D you also get touch screen and selection of focal points which seems a lit easier than on the 60D.
Rob The Cycling Guy Yeah, the 60D doesn't have continuous autofocus in video mode. Gotta half shutter press every time I think.
Hi wondering if you can help me please, I'm thinking to purchase the 80D but I'm really clueless weather to buy it with kit lenses or get a separate one. If so which one is best?
the kit lenses are brilliant 18-55mm stm or 18-135mm stm they are silent in video mode
Great video! I own a 60D and i'm willing to start vlogging, do you think it's worth upgrading to 70D, 80D or 5D Mark II or i should keep it?
I have an old 60D too and the reason I don't use it to vlog is there is no continuous face tracking autofocus. (You'd have to hold down the focus button halfway to focus it.) It is worth the jump to 70D or 80D if you're going to vlog. The 5D's aren't great b/c you can't flip the screen back toward yourself.
Was thinking bout getting the 70d but I love to shoot on 1080 60fps since I like my slowmo/cinematic shots.
fix Erro 80 in 70D?
Hi Caleb, I have a few cannon lenses, im looking to upgrade my old 20d to a video capable camera, ive been looking at the 70d and the 80d. In your opinion what camera offers all the benifits of the 80d but with a higher res in the canon line? should i be going for a 5 or a 7d? whats your recommendation here. Regards
Dan
You're not going to find a "higher resolution" camera than the 80D from Canon with all the same features. You'll get better video quality from a C100 ii, but not all the autofocus features + touch screen. Going to a 5D or 7D just to try to get better video quality than an 80D isn't really an option.
My first DSLR is T6i and I'm satisfied with it. Now, I want another DSLR with better upgrade and I don't know which one to get. I checked brand new 70D (body) and the price point for that doesn't do much difference to 80D (body). 70D owners doesn't need an upgrade which is understandable but how about someone, like me, who never own the D series? Should I just go for 80D? Remember, the price point between 70D and 80D doesn't do much difference. And oh, I do landscape photography, by the way. Don't care about shooting video.
+TranceEternality For photography I'd go full-frame. So a 6D or 5D.
So what can be your recommendation on getting a DLSR? Should I get a 70D or 80D?
Super helpful! Really laid out everything in clear detail.
Costco has new 70D with 2 lenses(STM zooms) for around 1200.
+terranborn56 Solid, much more functional deal than just the 80D for the same amount.
Good comparison. I am looking at these two cameras as an upgrade to my ancient XSi Rebel. I like the new features in the 80D but not as much as I like the recent price drop on the 70D. $839.00 online /w free shipping.
+Erik Curtis Yeah, it is a decent gap in price. Especially if you find a used 70D.
60fps in 1080p is really a plus point for 80d in terms of film making?
+PeaNutButter Studios Yeah, if you want to do slow motion work at all.
Glad I found your video!
Very well explained.
I want to upgrade from 70d to this but I am not sure if the existing batteries and third party batteries I originally
bought for my 70d will be useful in the 80d..?
And how would I go about identifying the shutter count?
A store has the 80d on offer for 799$, so I would sell my 70d in exchange...
My reasons for upgrading : Firstly, the rubber ring around the controls is loose. The rubber grip is also not perfect.
I live in a hot and arid country at times. So humidity has caused these imperfections.
The body is five years old now.
The focus points are superior on the 80d. 45 versus 19. A huge difference.
Better resolution and low light capabilities on the 80d make it another good choice.
I see video on the 80d is much better too.
I use canon L lens but am not ready to go to a full frame version as I am not a pro nor do I need to.
Besides, the 6d or 6d ii would be my best choice if the prices were reasonable where I live,
Even the old 6d is more expensive 2nd hand thus my interest in the 80d which I could get trading in my 70d.
Many thanks!
You mentioned that there is no continious autofocus while on live view on the 70D only through the eye piece. So you have to manually focus while on live view mode or use the touch screen to focus on something?
+arnoldgd84 I believe that setting is in photo mode, not video mode. You can have continuous autofocus on both models in video mode.
OK great. Thank You!
Excellent, thank you.
For video, pick one:
80D with 18-135mm nano,
C100 w/DPAF and 18-135mm STM,
or XC15?
If you're filming yourself (vlogging) I'd go with the 80D. If you're filming others, I'd go with the C100.
Can you take pictures or stills while recording a video just like the canon 650d? I tried this on my 80D and I am unable to.
+Make Me Fab I'm not sure. Sorry!
Good to know and some things I have to consider.
i want to buy the both of these cameras
nice review agent 44
Lol
If you were going to buy one just the body would you get the 80D or the 70D?
If I had the money, 80D. If I wanted to save money 70D.
I have a canon t3. Hi I am from brasil I going to upgrade my camera but I only do picture no video what camera do you recomend t6i, t6s, 70d, 80d, 6d thank you very much
Sensor size and autofocus would be your major things to look at. I'd go full frame (6D) if you could afford it.
@caleb what camera, lens, and set up did you use to film this episode. It looks really smooth, rich, and sharp. thanks :)
Canon C100 II and 24-105mm L. Links in the description.
I don't think so as it isn't a major upgrade... I'm waiting for a canon crop with 4k, doesn't matter if it's 7d mark iii either, would likely get it. I would stick with 70d and wait for 90d. If you are on 60d and want better video AF, sure, I think the DPAF is super helpful.
i get that it may not be worth it to upgrade cause it doesnt have TOO much more than the 70d. but just to verify...is the 70d a better camera when it comes to taking video or is the 80d just as good?
+Kevin Morgan 80D is better. Better autofocus is the main thing.
I'm thinking of selling my 6d for the 80d. But I don't know if I should do it. I only use the camera for shooting videos
+DC Films I like the full-frame on a 6D. If you need the flip out screen or better autofocus it might be worth it.
Does the mic being on top of the 70D effect the audio quality? I mean is it worse than the 80D?
No not really. You should use an external mic like I describe in this video though: th-cam.com/video/3_3NFEhpisQ/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for this! I’ve been saving up for a new camera! I was wanting to upgrade from a T5i which was my first camera and just ready for a change! I’ve been looking at the 70D then saw 80D and just been debating but I’ll be sticking to getting the 70d (:
I just ordered the 80D body only because I thought could use my 60D 18-135mm kit lense. Do I have to get that new lense for the video autofocus to work?
***** The 60D does not have autofocus in movie mode and I need autofocus for my TH-cam videos. Also, it was crashing so much, I couldn't even film one video all the way through! Since this post, I did receive the 80D and I used it with my 18-135 stm lens. It is sooo loud even with a RODE videomic on the hot shoe. I will need to use the mic off camera for sure until I can save up for the USM kit lens.
I bought the 80D and I use my Canon 18-135mm IS STM and it works great with the autofocus in video mode. I also have the Tamron 16-300mm lens and it is fast to focus, but there are clicking noises that you hear in the video. The Canon 18-135mm lens is very quiet and it works well. I haven't attached my external mike on it yet, I was using the internal mike and it was quiet.
STM lenses should be quieter, but yeah, if they are autofocusing while recording a microphone on the camera will pick up that sound. I'd record with an external mic.
I will definitely try my external mike. I didn't think about the internal picking up the noises and the external not picking them up. Thank you very much for the advice ^_^ the clicking for the Tamron lens is not too bad, I hope the external mike should be alright. I like the Tamron 18-300mm for the range, it is a cool lens. THANK YOU
Hey i have a Sony a600(found it collecting dust in my house) and i want a better run and shoot camera for Vlogs, video reviews and short films. I want to get a canon because it can have more accessories, plus the Sony screen doesn't flip outwards like the Canon. Looking do kinda do the Casey rig, but idk if i should go 70D or 80D. Anyone help please.
When using canon cam connect I can’t download 4K to my phone so 1080p seems fine. Maybe in the future I’ll go 4K.
hi...how about upgrading from a 80d to a 90D??!!
I personally am gonna stick with the 80D. I don't really need to shoot in 4K cause i don't have a super powerful laptop that can edit that footage. Plus the 80D can shoot in 24 fps which the 90D can't
Really good review and helps a lot. This will be my first big camera purchase and I think I'm going to just go with the 80D and stick with it for a while. Thanks so much!!!
what settings are you using for this shoot?
I really enjoy watching your videos. I hope you keep sharing.
Hi, i have one question.
I have a Canon 600D, and i need change my camera, in your opinion, who its better selection to change, canon 70D or 80D?
Great video. Thx.
Regards
Both would be great options. I always go newer if I can afford it (80D), but if you're on a budget, go 70D.
Great overview! THANKS!
It is really disappointing that Canon does not offer an updated version of the 70D with a full frame sensor & 4K. The 80D seems to offer minor upgrades. Too bad Canon did not go the extra mile!
+Jerome Jacques Yeah, I'd expect the 5D Mark IV to have those things in a few months time.
Thanks!!!!! I'll stay with the 70D