The History of KING'S ROAD Style
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- DAVE KNOWS that King's Road Style is one of wrestling's best. It may not be as popular as WWE or New Japan's Strong Style, but All Japan Pro Wrestling and King's Road is something amazing all unto itself. And people should be paying more attention to it. So in this video, I explore the history, the differences and what makes King's Road Style wrestling, not just an amazing form of Japanese Pro Wrestling, but a great form of Professional Wrestling.
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FINALLY! I got a clear definition on this style. Thanks Dave 🤘
Sorry for the wait
@@DaveKnowsWrestling bruh I've always seen vids talking about it but never clearly defined what it was. BTW can you make a vid about the joshi style?
maurice alexander, glad to see people interested in joshi puro. I hope Dave does a video on this as well
Joshi puroresus' initial influences where from the traditional womens style of wrestling of the 50s/60s. mixed with traditional Japanese wrestling and over time it evolved and started to develop its own identity, with influences from a wide range of wrestling including lucha libre, southern Style wrasslin, WWEs entertainment style, as well as Japans male wrestling scene. it became some of the most hard hitting, fast paced and innovative wrestling on the planet, pageantry played a huge factor in joshi puroresu Especially during 90s, they also had a lot of heart which helped keep you invested . I'd say the women went that extra mile in an effort to gain and maintain respect in what was and still is a male dominated industry and to prove a point.
For the longest time AJW was the only viable women's promotion in Japan, opened in the 60s by the matsunaga brothers in a lot of ways they where ahead of their time in how they'd promote their women and getting their brand out there and going beyond just wrestling to do it. They where very much on the same page as Vince McMahon jr. In that regard as a lot of the women also had music careers, with the crush gals probably being the most successful and being a massive part of Japanese pop culture during the 80s.
Joshi puro suffered a lot heading into the new millennium, I don't really know why, it hasn't recovered since. At one point AJW used to run the Tokyo dome, now stardom is the largest joshi promotion and they're glad to get 1500 in korakuen. the talent is there, they've got the drive, they've got women that could be really big stars but it's probably the most niche sub genre of wrestling their is these days and it makes me sad to know that people don't have an intrest or an appreciation for it any more, hopefully that can one day change
Roy Rogers yes I agree, and that is an interesting thought. I think while more people are aware of stardom and joshi puro in general, I wonder how many of them sign up for stardom world or are even seeking other promotions and finding ways to watch them? I thinks it's more a case of they see someone like kairi hojo come into NXT, they get interested in her background and find out what stardom is but it doesn't go any further than that,
Roy Rogers couldn't agree more
I spent thousands of hours watching AJPW 90s stuff and I was only told by the internet fans that each match had a lot of story threads, but without being able to speak Japanese and understand the commentary, this might not be so apparent to newer viewers. However, over time you start to notice all the call backs and progressions from match to match in a storytelling sense. It's so deep. Here are two perfect matches to compare how one logically led to the other: Misawa/Kobashi vs Kawada/Taue 6-9-95 and a rematch on 10-15-95. The second match begins with the tactics used to finish the prior, and they pretty much play like one long saga.
That's cool that you took the time to figure it all out without knowing the language. Your knowledge is well earned
6/9/95!! The best match ever!!
One really great story IMO that was King's Road product is Kenta Kobashi's saga
Dude was a tank that fought hard to get into the AJ dojo, took 63 L's starting from his debut before winning a singles match, constantly loses (initially) to his peers (Misawa, Hansen, Taue, Kawada, etc.), and is usually the one getting beat up in tag team bouts (partnering with Misawa/Kawada), but later on, he would beat them and even won the Triple Crown 3 times in legendary bouts, and becomes the "big brother veteran" (who finishes the match) when partnered with rookies like Akiyama. And when he joined NOAH, he would ultimately win the GHC Heavyweight belt by defeating Misawa in a 5-star epic, hold it for 700+ days, and even after losing it, still be a huge legend, EVEN FUCKING BESTING CANCER BY LIKE, IDK BURNING HAMMER THE SHIT OUT OF IT, and becoming, in the end, one of (if not the) greatest wrestling babyfaces. And even IRL, he was a kind Gigachad of a man, despite his huge tanking structure. He smiles genuinely and you can just feel his positive aura amongst you.
And I mean, God, his theme songs reflect it. On the first time (Sniper) you can feel the underdog still on his getting-kicked-around phase, then on the next (Grand Sword V1), it's like the underdog finally gaining legendary W's, and the last, iconic rendition (Grand Sword V2), the "anime hero's ultimate form" vibes are there, and you see him become the top dog bearing the torch. Also come on, I personally get pumped up when the beat hits while lifting at the gym, TBH. Plus the chants, bro I really can just hear 50% of the music cus the other half's just ppl shouting "KO-BA-SHI!"
P.S. Sorry smh I just really love Kobashi's etire saga and career hehe
Pleasantly surprised at the quality of this explanation and for the strong style vid as well. Most american fans just equate the japanese styles to mean"they hit each other really hard and work really stiff." The booking philosophy and where two opponents stand against each other "rank" wise was a huge component in match structure and all the finisher business. Ajpw had a clear ladder which made all the critical matches feel like a battle for supremacy to see who would get to go up another step or defend their turf. Ajpw 90s is the epitome of presenting prowrestling as sport. No frills, no spectacle.
*wipes nose, pulls up tights
Hey thanks so much for the appreciation. That really does mean a lot to know you liked those videos and the explanations
Adrian Elicegui, wrestling is about spectacle, like it or not, because no crowds mean no interest and no interest means no business.
@@paxhumana2015 Uh, the wrestling IS the spectacle, at least it used to be. Example: Why is the Super Bowl so important? Because we want to know who the best team is after enduring the season and pre-season, thus the game IS the spectacle.
@@joeyzapata6786 Right, but if football was staged would that still be the case? Or would you want to see which team can tackle each other the fanciest and do the most entertaining end zone dance? Treating wrestling as a legitimate sport only works if everyone actually believes it IS a legitimate sport, and THAT cat's been outta the bag since 1987. Like it or not, kayfabe is dead, and no amount of whining about "the good old days" is going to bring it back to life.
@@ShatteredPsyche that doesn't contradict with the king's road style, which is more focused on story telling rather than being MMA
Let's not forget how much the influence Kings Road style was on independence 2000s North american Independent Scene.
DegenerateSharingan yes definitely, I also think joshi puro was also a big influence aswell, especially in terms of pacing
Yeah, I only briefly mentioned it, but I think a major aspect that a lot of ppl like in NJPW now comes from a King's Road influence
Yup seeing all the all head dumping driver moves.
@@DaveKnowsWrestling Yeah. Even strikers like Hideo/KENTA, Shibata, and Marufuji use King's Road as a way to tell a story in their matches. Hell, Gedo's booking from 2012-2018 is a perfect example of King's Road storytelling.
@@DaveKnowsWrestling hm.. Since NJPW has a more Kings Road style now does that mean Baba's philosophy won out in the end?
An overall plan? Logical booking? Promoting new talent? That is crazy talk, man:: Vince McMahon (probably).
Yeah I know.. McMahon hears that and he thinks that logic must be a Japanese word
Hey pal! What are you trying to do here? Yeah Vince ain’t going for that lol
This sounds a lot like Omega's matches and the long term booking NJPW has employed since Gedo and Jado have been in that position.
It sure does doesn't it
AJPW in the 70 and 80s was literally most part main events were Jappense guys vs.) Evil Foreiener. Stan Hansen Adbullah The Butcher and most NWA Champions were all AJ.
Because AJPW did it all much better and more interesting than NJPW (although not has spread out through the roster).
Gedo knows his stuff.
Since the death of kayfabe he realised storytelling-based wrestling was the thing that made wrestling special and the thing that was gonna persevere over "staged MMA".
He also studied tons of american 80s wrestling booking.
Strong style and MMA based wreslters today like Suzuki, Nakamura, Shibata etc knows that they need to know how to tell a story in combination with hard strikes & kicks to gain sucess in the industry.
IVE BEEN TELLING THIS TO PEOPLE FOR LIKE YEARS AND NO ONE SEES IT.
Thank you!
Early through mid-90's All-Japan was the Gold Standard of professional wrestling.
Totally agree. I will add that I feel that the reliance on head-drop moves in the later 90's was a step down from the better storytelling and selling from before.
Yeah, a lot of ppl forget that, especially now that NJPW is all the rage
What are the best matches to start with
It's a shame we don't get as much exposure to King's Road here in North America compared to Strong Style. I like the logical approach that this style takes as compared to other styles. Very underrated, and under-appreciated King's Road is.
That could change over time, just gotta get the word out
@@DaveKnowsWrestling Strong Style is Kung Fu on Wrestling, King's Road feels more at home with Technical Wrestlers.
@@conradojavier7547 you have no idea what strong style is if you think that.
The new maneuvers to put your long standing rival away has two standout examples, Kawada's Ganso Bomb (a powerbomb where you release the opponent half way up, causing him to land on his head) and Misawa's Tiger Driver 91 (Tiger Driver to Ganso Bomb)
Great examples. And yeah... they are serious that's for sure
Dave's doing All Japan!? Xmas has arrived.
Isn't that how the Burning Hammer came about as well?
@@douglasdeguzman7729 yep, and nobody ever kicked out of Kobashi's version of it.
@@geoffa87 , let me prove that wrong.
I got into puro back when NOAH was on top so personally I lean more towards the Kings road style over strong style, I just found it to be the superior style in terms in storytelling. I'm glad you brought up choshu, he was definitely a big influence in what AJPW would become in the 90s. You said to name our favourite matches but anything from AJPW during the 70s - 90s is pretty much pure gold to me.
Awesome! I totally agree that King's Road is def better in storytelling than Strong Style
It's a shame the AJ/NOAH style ain't popular anymore. I'm waiting for a multi millionaire to bring back. Like NWA, Indie Wrestling & Lucha. NJPW had a resurgence.
For me at the moment, Strong style got my heart and i actually loved those Inokiism age mma matches
Early NOAH was prime.
AJPW was the top promotion in Japan during the 90's with legends like Akiyama, Kobashi, Taue, and Misawa being the most popluar at the time
I really hope one day AJPW can recover form Giant Baba's death since it has effected All Japan in very negative ways
I hope so too
AJPW seemed to have been recovering when Keiji Mutoh aka Great Muta took over but even that didn't last
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Tim, heres a link back to daves dicord discord.gg/rVgzR9
Well, while they undoubtedly have the best product, but surprise surprise, NJPW still the number one above them in the 90s.
A good example of a pure Kings Road match is Sammartino vs Baba from the 60s. Look it up. Here they try position and hold on each other throughout the match. They are trying for advantage, later the match turns to trying to wear the opponent out. Today this match would be somewhat boring, but at the time the fans ate it up as a true contest amongst two giants of the game.
New Japan Pro Wrestling had its Three Musketeers (Keiji Mutoh, Masahiro Chono, and Shinya Hashimoto) as well as Jushin "Thunder" Liger.
All Japan Pro Wrestling had its Four Pillars of Heavan (Toshiaki Kawada, Akira Taue, Kenta Kobashi, and Mitsuharu Misawa.)
Very thoughtful insights! Subscribed!!
That was fascinating, thank you! I was only familiar with strong style, so I found it very interesting learning about the other side of the coin, so to speak.
I love all your videos about Japanese pro wrestling and british style wrestling. Keep up the amazing work my guy!
Dave you made my day with this one, I hope you and the rest of the know it all had a good Christmas
I am glad to hear it. Hope you had a good Christmas yourself
Great vid! Thank you for the history lesson! 👌
Awesome video! I'm just beginning to learn about Japanese wrestling so this vid is a great help :)
Thank you for saying so
Stoked to find this video. Subscribed. Hoping for more classing japanese wrestling content. There is so much I don't know even though I've been watching puroresu for 20 years.
Welcome to the Know-It-All Nation!! So glad you are here
Dave you are a light in the darkness when it comes to what I do not know about wrestling. Keep up the great quality work.
Thank you that is very kind of you to say, I appreciate the support
Most clear and coherent description of the King's Road style I've ever heard. Instant sub based on this video. Thank you for your work.
Thank you so much for appreciating it. Welcome to the Know-It-All Nation
@@DaveKnowsWrestling Happy to be here! And your description was so clear and thorough. Making the call of it being a booking style/logic as much as an in-ring style was eye-opening. Anytime I've heard anyone else attempt to explain the King's Road Style... I'm met with a nebulous answer. An answer that attempts to imply they are so heavily in the know, they can only explain it in terms others wouldn't follow. But it's really an answer that says: I don't know what King's Road actually is.
Now, I understand it. Because you clearly understand it. I have the language to compare and contrast it with other styles, and unpack it to friends.
Thank you.
This is beautifully explained, as well as your voice and diction being perfect for this type of video. Never knew the stylistic differences between AJPW and NJPW. Subscribed immediately.
Thank you so much for appreciating the video and for subscribing. Welcome to the Know-It-All Nation
First time to your channel.
Dave definitely knows wrestling. The logical way of some moves finishing lesser opponents is a great way to put someone over
Dave, you are F'n brilliant! huge credit to the internet wrestling community. your vids are always so good. love you and all your work!! no homo! LOL
Excellent explanation, immediately subbed. Well done sir.
Thanks so much, welcome to the Know-It-All Nation and very glad that you appreciated the explanation of King's Road Style
Wow, that was nice. I really like the way you tied that up at the end.
Thanks so much for appreciating and for being here
Another great video, had no idea about kings road style. Thanks for knowledge, great job.
Thank you, glad to help
@@DaveKnowsWrestling - I really enjoy your videos, and you and your staff do a great job.
It's great to see a professional quality analysis like this.
Thanks so much, it means a lot to be appreciated
As a huge fan of all kinds of wrestling (especially the various Japanese styles) I enjoy your videos educating on different styles. I didn't start watching All Japan until after seeing this video. I'm interested in seeing a video on the Dragon Gate and DDT styles
Well thanks for the recommendations.. I might just have to see what I can do about that
I love booking style of King's Road Style matches... My favorite match of AJPW is Kenta Kobashi vs Mitsuharu Misawa Jan 20 1997 and Misawa and Kobashi vs Taue and Kawada, June 1995
Another figure who was very important to the development of the All Japan style was The Destroyer. He trained with both Jumbo Tsuruta and Genichiro Tenryu, and wrestled a number of excellent main events for them during the 70s.
This really helped I’m start watching AJPW !! I heard there was event had to research this is really helpful
Thank you so much for appreciating this video. I am glad to help!
You got to love Kento Miyahara. He's so damn good. Love this video, Dave.
Thanks so much, this was a lot of fun to make and I like it myself
You're welcome. I'm a huge fan of AJPW, so it was great to see someone make an explanation video of the difference between King's Road and Strong-Style.
Can't forget the Darkest Day of King's Road one fateful night in Hiroshima. Akitoshi Saito hit a normal Belly-to-Back Suplex on Pro Wrestling NOAH legend Mitsuharu Misawa, and Misawa didn't get up. Turned out this match was the last match in Misawa's storied career, and life. When Misawa was rushed to the hospital the doctors ruled he had died of heart failure as a result of a fatal spinal cord injury.
Woody_XV took the words right out of my mouth, and it wasn't a belly to belly, it was a belly to back
@Woody_XV i thought it was the other way around.
Dude It was a back suplex and it's very important because that was Jumbo Tsuruta's finishing move which create even more controversies.
The crazy part I been watching some King's Road Matches and I didn't no I was until I finally checked out your vids.
Whoa, that's pretty cool. Now you and knowing is half the battle
Thank Dave King's Road storytelling matches and NJPW just amazing matches
Thank you!
Excellent summary of Baba's system.
Thank you very much
I feel kinda dumb, been a wrestling fan for more than 35 years, love classic AJPW, NWA, WCCW, FMW, WCW, NJPW, WWF, ECW. AEW...my favorite stuff is old NWA WCCW and AJPW. I never know that it was called KINGS ROAD. I feel so dumb, and you describe it so well, I actually just learned something.
No need to feel bad, a lot of ppl are in the same boat
Its very much the hero's journey method of story telling from ancient legends. Classic story telling at its finest
That's some high praise
Outstanding video
the reason its soo perfect is cause its well structure it makes sense in the pro wrestling sense plus you add the fack that misawa kawada taue and kobashi were perfect for the compagny in the way that baba use to book i reallyy recomend going out of your way to see these matches
Great content as always!
Thank you so much Zax
This channel is really put together well. You've got a good knowledge of wrestling and your presentation is solid. Dave indeed knows wrestling :) @@DaveKnowsWrestling
Nice video as usual, Dave. While on the subject of Japanese wrestling, I'm not sure if you're into joshi puroresu at all, but if you are I'd love to see a video on that.
Not a bad suggestion, I will take it into consideration
I like NJPW although I recently discovered AJPW cause of names like Baba, Funk & Race. And I fell in with love AJPW! Great Video bro, much love from Albuquerque, NM!
Thank you so much and shout out to Albuquerque! Always wanted to go so I could say the Bugs Bunny line
My favorite matches of AJPW is during the 90s with Mitsuharu Misawa Kenta Kobashi Toshiaki Kawada and Jun Akiyama and Cowboy Stan Hansen
Great video. If you do a supplementary video (maybe you already have and I just haven't seen it), I'd suggest addressing one to four other things: 1) How Baba's decision to go to an all-clean-finishes format helped to elevate the quality and significance of the style; 2) How the Jumbo-Tenryu series REALLY boosted the expectations for what a main-event match was supposed to resemble, not just in All Japan, but in Puroresu in general; 3) How the combination of those factors contributed to the elevation of Misawa and others, because when the torch was passed to them, it was passed to them through clean finishes in grueling matches; 4) How the (arguable) abuse of the style may have led to the decline and/or death of some of its best practitioners, including Misawa (death), Kobashi (nerve damage) and Takayama (a stroke in 2004 even before he was paralyzed). Thanks!
Thank you so much for such intelligent insight. And I will most certainly take it under consideration
@@DaveKnowsWrestling I appreciate this video from you in the first place! It's a wonderful explanation of the meaning and significance of King's Road.
I saw King's Road on Fire Promoter recently and I wondered what it was. Now that I know what it is, I'll look up some matches that use the King's Road style and I'll look forward to seeing what the style provides.
I am glad you discovered King's Road and hope you enjoy what you see
As someone who's just really gotten into Japanese Wrestling over the past year or so, I really appreciate this explanation!
Thank you for appreciating
Im GUNNA find a way to watch SOOOOOO MUCH MORE AJPW cheers for this
I hope you find it, cheers to you too
Mitsuharu Misawa is the man to watch. Classic matches against Tashiaki Kawada, Kenta Kobashi and a bunch of others. I will forever love New Japan Pro but 1990’s/early 2000’s, All-Japan was superior. Also watch early Pro Wrestling NOAH, which is the promotion that Mistuharu Misawa created once he left All-Japan after the death of Giant Baba. Most of the All Japan roster followed Misawa to NOAH.
Incredible video, always learning new stuff from you. 🥃
Thank you so much for the words of support. Glad you get something out of this channel
Thank you for this explanation. For Japanese wrestling it seems you really have to be a student of the craft to be able to appreciate it. In American promotions all has been mostly dumbed down over time into shallow feuds and spotfests.
AllJapans style and matches throughout the 80s into the early 00s were untouchable, and what got me into Japanese wrestling in the first place
I hear ya on that
King's Road Style sounds interesting. I'll need to find out where I can see old All Japan content to maybe get into it.
Another thing that caught my attention was the description. It sounds really similar to how a lot of martial art/battle shounen anime approach fights. I'm a little curious if King's Road (and pro wrestling in general) was an influence for that, or whether it's just a coincidence because of the logical nature of the storytelling/similar examples in martial art movies.
Hi Dave all your videos are great and as a fan of wrestling and currently training to be a pro wrestling I'm definitely into knowing more of pro wrestling history. Will appreciate if you can upload a video regarding to your opinion on which major pro wrestling title you consider as a real world champion cuz as you know many pro wrestling promotion are promoting their top title as a world heavyweight champion . Thank you
Thank you so much first of all for appreciating the channel. Second, best wishes in your career. And I also want to say that I have thought about making that video for some time.. just have yet to get around to it. So good suggestion
The style of wrestling I was looking for
King's Road got me back into wrestling after I stopped watching WWF back in 1997. I ended up importing Fire Pro Wrestling G from Japan and wanted to learn all about these wrestlers and promotions I had never heard of. Everybody told me if I wanted to get into Puroresu to get Misawa, Kawada and Kobashi tapes. So I ended up buying tape sets online and I have never looked back. King's Road made me love wrestling again. No talking on the mic, no ridiculous skits, no sports entertainment. Just Pro Wrestling in it's most purest form.
Thanks so much for sharing your personal story on your fandom for wrestling. WWF can be exhausting when they keep going in a direction that isn't what wrestling should be. I understand the frustration... especially now
It sounds like the kicking out of finishers makes sense in King's Road because they don't dilute it down, by having guys kick out of a finsher 3-5 times in a match, as tends to happen in American wrestling.
Very informative video. Thank you.
I think you got it and thank you for watching
Also,it helps that kobashi and especially, toshiyaki kawada are up there with Bret hart on incredible selling,that even if a finisher gets kicked out,you can still feel it's impact and feels it feels like he only kicked out because how tough they are. Kawada is soo good at selling,that when he sells a move,he somehow makes him and his opponent look tough.
Good video. By why the constent zooming in and out and moving left and right?
You’re over with me Dave! Subbed
Thank you so much and welcome to the Know-It-All Nation!
Fun little video
3 years ago in 2021 seems like so long ago due to trends. You're definitely a Original Gangster (with a G) when it come to this.
DAVE can you go deeper into the booking and examples of how up & comers would take veterans spots?
Card positioning, etc
Im liking this kings road style
And as for length NJPW also had long matches... some of Inoki's early famous classic matches in NJPW when the full length of the time limit... like vs Bill Robinson...
that was a good one!
Great, thanks for educating people that not all japanese wrestling is strong style
Modern njpw uses this style today, not strong style.
Thank you and yes I see a lot of that myself
Excellent and concise definition of what the King's Road is all about. The only drawback I can see to it is just how perfect things need to go (mostly in terms of wrestler health) for this form of super-long-term storytelling.
But when you think about the storytelling we not only got in AJPW but in the early years of Pro Wrestling NOAH (Jun Akiyama vs. Kenta Kobashi at Departure 2004, for example), I'm a believer in the King's Road. To me, that's what pro wrestling is all about: telling stories and making people forget that what they are seeing is scripted.
When it comes to many styles I think it has to work just right and it has to work for the promotion that it's being used in. Like Strong Style, if you did that in an American company and your opponent wasn't aware of it, you would be considered stiff. But when everyone is expecting it to go that way, then there's no problem. KR is a cog in a machine that is AJPW. And only when all the pieces fit together does it work, same as any other company. Styles often need to be a bigger part of the whole.
King's Road Style sounds interesting!
Def worth checking out
@@DaveKnowsWrestling
I've always wondered if All Japan had a similar product compared to WWF/E and knowing that now, I can definitely see the resemblance!
Probably my favorite style to be fair, though I do enjoy a good southern style tag team match.
I'm hoping AEW can implement King's Road into their presentation to help them stand out
That would be interesting
One thing about Kings Road is that the wrestlers have many finishers, i think it helps ( example : Misawa with those elbow variations)
AJPW was great! Had one of the all time great games too in VPW2
So Strong Style is MMA & Wrestling if they mate.
No, that's Brock Lesnar.
Inoki and Muhammad ali did a match that led root to the mma.. but the match was criticized overall sucks as it was
I love King's Road style. It is the best form of pro wrestling. period. I wish AEW and WWE would do this.
My three picks for best AJPW matches would be Misawa vs. Tsuruta from June 8th 1990, Misawa vs. Kawada from June 3rd 1994, and Kobashi vs. Taue from July 24th 1996.
Very nice choices
I loved Japanese wrestling and Noah was on of my favorite promotions
Hopefully good things are still to come in its new form
I am sharing this video to jim cornette on twitter
Thank you so much for spreading the word
inoki's strong style was also influenced by Dory Funk Jr,., since they had classic matches in JWA.... very technical... but in the end Dory decided to help Baba
Inoki more or less was more influenced by Karl Gotch. Karl Gotch was a Dory like figure during the early days of NJPW. Which if AJPW have Dory, NJPW have Karl Gotch. And Lou Thesz also.
Great video, but I feel the need to point out that Catch As Catch Can wrestling was an integral part of both King's Road and Shoot Style, as catch wrestling is a martial art, which influenced many grappling arts such as BJJ. Inoki himself was a Catch Wrestler and was even nicknamed Lou Thesz Jr.
I mentioned Catch's influence in this video and I also mentioned it in the Strong Style video
Dave Knows Wrestling Yes, I'm aware. It's just that people might get confused with the sentence "King's Road tends to maintain more of a catch as catch can mentality and less shoot style", when the main foundation of shoot style is in fact catch as can with martial arts strikes, so I figured I'd point it out :-).
Booking with sense & logic...Remember when wrestling used to do that?? lol
I'm beginning to forget
imo
Good stuff here...as usual.
I'm hooked on 90s (and there about) Japanese women's wrestling.
Manami Toyota, Aja Kong, and Cuty Suzuki are three my all-time favorite women's wrestlers.
imo
Charlie Newman good man, you have excellent taste in wrestling. I highly recommend you check out the aja Kong vs bull nakano ,at he's from 90-93 best feud in wrestling in my opinion, I also highly recommend you check out akira hokuto.
Nice, showing Japanese wrestling love
@@zakrowe1301No argument from me, zak!
A truly great feud, indeed!
imo
@@DaveKnowsWrestlingSome of the best wrestling I've ever seen, bar none...imo.
Charlie Newman nice, do you follow any modern day joshi?
I'm finding that I prefer King's Road style overall, because I love the working holds, setting up big moves, and trading signature moves that the style has, and the storytelling aspect is great with no shit booking. The Gaijin wrestlers helped evolve the style and gave it more of an international flavor, and you really got the sense that everyone who wrestled there thought they were the best, and wanted to prove it.
I hear ya, I prefer King's Road to Strong Style. I think that's why we are seeing elements of King's Road sneaking in elsewhere
@@DaveKnowsWrestling I think it's for the better, because now you can see more storytelling, and working holds to go with the high spots and strikes that have become the norm in the international scenes. All-Japan may be going through a rough time, but the booking style, and philosophy of King's Road remains as good as ever.
All Japan's Womens wrestling set the standard for womens wrestling to me. I still watch their matches on TH-cam till this day.
That's really cool and you are right about how good they were and still are
I love how he showed a pic of the Burning Hammer as a "serious move" 👍
It scares me just to look at it
My view of AJPW is that baba took the strengths of the NWA AWA AND JWA then combined it to create all Japan pro wrestling and kings road style.
My favorite ! 80s 90s AJPW !!! To me as an American , if you mixed this with 80s NWA , just a hint of ECW (or Memphis Craziness) wildness and enthusiasm with some early ROH ( for slight modernism) . THIS would be the best modern wrestling could be as an alternative at least !!! I guess even throw a very slight tinge of entertainment style if u must
i didn't know there is an actual difference thank you much Dave what else do you know do you know dragonsgate wrestling?
Thank you for appreciating and don't worry, I got plenty for videos in mind for future episode
Any chance you can do an explanation on Ark Road? I know it’s a variation of Kong’s Road, but what makes it distinct?
I will look into it
Dave Knows Wrestling
Thnx
I think a balance between kings road style and strong style would work better than falling on one side or another. Kenny omega njpw run is proof of that
He is def a hybrid of the two
I think the main difference is that Baba had good connections with big name bookers and wrestlers in the US from NWA and AWA... Inoki in the beginning had close to no connections and had to depend on Gotch to send unknown wrestlers to Japan,... eventually NJPW got connected to WWWF and that helped them with getting some foreign stars.
Dave would make a great faction leader to be honest.
Why thank you
Misawa vs Tsuruta or Misawa vs Kobashi was my jam.
Kings Road sounds awesome
It sure can be
Should've said "Dave takes a trip down King's Road" lol
That would have good
1993 All Japan is just the best. I never get tired of watching it
That was a good year
Do the two splits make JWA Old Japan Pro Wrestling, or Some Japan Pro Wrestling?
Seriously though, what's the difference between AJPW King's Road and Pro Wrestling Noah's King's Road?
Well I have another video talking about Noah's style you should check out
@@DaveKnowsWrestling thanks for the reply, I'll check out the video. I'm giving NJPW, AJPW, and PWN-DDT a shot through their streaming services. I'm starting with NJPW for a few months before switching to either AJPW or DDT-PWN and I wanted to get a feel for the two King's Road styles.
Good To See You Back On TH-cam Dave (It’s Only Been 5 Days, But SHUT UP!)
Just Wanted To Ask A Couple Questions About Some Stuff Currently In WWE.
(None About Raw, It Currently Just Seems Boring).
1. What Do You Think Of The Direction That WWE Is Currently Taking?
2. I Was Gonna Ask Best Match, Wrestler Of Even Talker, All Stuff About “Who’s The Best/Worst This Year?”, But Maybe That Could Be The Topic Of Friday’s Stream (If There Is One).
Hell, It Could Even Be About Predictions For 2019.
3. What’s Your Favourite Style Of Wrestling?
4. How Was Your Christmas?
EDIT: Secret 5th Question
5. If Vince McMahon Say You Down & Said “Name One Thing You Would Change In My Company & I’ll Do It”, What Would You Say?
I Was Stumped On It, So Many Answers, Insanely Hard To Nail It Down To 1 Answer, But I Replied Fire The “Creative” Team.
Thanks, I thought about posting over the holiday, but last year, the videos didn't really get a lot of traffic.
1. Wait and see
2. BECKY. LYNCH.
3. Canadian
4. Christmas was good, how was yours?
5. Permanently remove Stephanie from the product in every capacity
1. Intriguing, I Like It!
2. I’ll Argue That Later.
3. Canadian Is Definitely A Strong Style For Wrestling To Choose, I Love It!
4. Great, Had A Good Day, But My Ann’s Gone Nuts In The Hospital, So I Had A Headache For Half The Day
5. I Admit, I HATE Her On-Screen. Not Because She’s Kayfabing Me, But She Always Has To Look Good, Bury Everyone Else & Never Get Her Comeuppance.
I Would Do That, But The Creative Team This Year (Mainly For Raw), Has Been Diabolically Bad To The Point It’s Getting It’s Lowest Ratings EVER!
People Say It’s Vince, But Look At Him On SmackDown, It’s Been Fantastic.
I Didn’t Know How Much I Wanted Him Back!
He’s Been Back For 10 Days & He’s Already One Of My Favourite Characters Currently!
Him At The Age Of 73 Has Taken More Bumps That Stephanie McMahon!
Stephanie’s Only Willing To Job To Ronda Rousey, But Everyone Else, She Has To Look Good & I HATE IT!
God, Now I’m Worked Up About Stephanie!
But Off Of Her & Onto Becky Lynch.
While She’s Had A Fantastic Couple Of Months, That’s Only 4 Months.
What Was She Doing January-July? Nothing!
I Would Put Her On The Top 10, Maybe Even Top 5, But Not The Best.
I Would Argue People Like Styles, Rollins, Rousey, McIntyre & Even Charlotte Has Had Better Years, But Becky’s Still On The Top 10.
Mary late Christmas Dave
Same to you Tyrrell!
@@DaveKnowsWrestling thanks dave
Well thank you Dave for letting everyone know what my style finally is
However let's not get it confused I use catch and British wrestling first to make sure I am the ultimate strong style wrestler
Thank you for appreciating it and yes, those are some of my favorite styles too
Favorite match is
Misawa vs Kawada
Good one thank you for sharing