@Bob Hill No doubt. Perhaps beauty comes from both harmony, and dissonance. Anyway you you slice it, I like stuff that goes bang. Computer over electric is the future, (sigh), but glad I get to see this.
@Bob Hill I can see you are a man of both, class, and taste, but not a discriminating man, just knowledgeable in your own taste, a rare TH-cam Gentleman. Cheers, my freind !
@Bob Hill glad to resonate with someone like myself. I hoist a cold one, brother, knowing I could do the same in your backyard. Nice to have a wholesome experience on the TH-cam.
A 2-stroke diesel is not boosted unless there is back pressure on the exhaust. Therefore a mechanically supercharged engine is indeed naturally aspirated. This is unique to 2-stokes. It isn't possible to fill the cylinder beyond ambient pressure until the exhaust is used to drive the turbine.
You can boost a 2 stroke like the Detroit diesel because the exhaust valve is closed before the intake. The reason the supercharged version is considered NA is because it takes the place of crankcase induction on a traditional 2 stroke. The engine simply won't run without the supercharger.
This is not entirely true. The principle purpose of the blower is to scavenge exhaust and replace with fresh air. However, most 2 stroke diesels close the exhaust valves or ports before closing the intake ports, creating at least a,small amount of supercharging.
@@tracylemme1375 totally wrong. Intake never opens before the exhaust and can’t close on a ported two stroke anything, diesel or gas . If they open the intake with pressure in the cylinder and hot exhaust would dilute the intake charge with spot and co3
@@dennisford2000 It's all about timing, the ex valve will always open before the intake port is opened. Tracy Lemme is right about the purpose of the blower. The ex valve closing is what changes everything, for naturally aspirated the ex valve will close after the intake port. For supercharged the valve will close before. Exhaust back pressure does nothing.
The EMD diesel engines are primarily aimed for use in Diesel-Electric locomotives. EMD was originally a General Motors division. General Motors also created another diesel engine line that included V16 engines with its GMC (Jimmy) diesel series from about 1937 forward. Also two stroke, it include engines as small as single cylinder 53 cubic inch engines up to a few stationary 20 cylinder engines with 93 cu. in per cylinder. The Jimmy engines were primarily used in American over the road trucks, though a significant number were used to power farm tractors. Another really interesting subject and video.
There are also the 149 series Detroits w/ 149 ci/cylinder, and a 6-110 (the only engine in the 110 series); also a blower-scavenged (no exhaust valves) 51 series in 2 and 4-cylinder. Largest was the 20V149, w/ up to about 3000 HP. There was also the Cleveland (nee: Winton)/GMC series, used a lot on WWII subs, w/ V-6 thru V-16 configurations; also the inline "268 series" (about 223 cu. in./cyl.) in 3,4,6 and 8-cylinders.
@@craigmclean8260 Thanks. Knew about those but couldn't collect my thoughts on them when I first posted. Faribanks-Morris also built large capacity opposed cylinder engines for industrial use starting in the early 1930's. Some of those engines ended up in WW II submarines. I know the had 12 piston engines, I wonder if they grew to be 16 piston engines. Those diesel engines had two crank shafts and two opposed pistons per cylinder.
@@cdjhyoung Yes, indeed! The Fairbanks-Morse "38D8-1/8" series was used in subs also; like the Cleveland/GMCs, typically four were installed, running generators for diesel-electric surface power, and to charge an under-deck bank of batteries for "running silent, running deep". The F-M 38D was made in 6 to 12-cylinders inline (24 pistons on the latter); there are a few videos on YT of them running; they sound amazing! There is a modern version of the 38D still made, called "Enviro-Tech", which runs on natural gas, using a diesel injected "pilot", instead of spark plugs. There is a backup power station near where I live which houses one of the old WWII submarine-vintage F-Ms, plus two newer "Enviro-Techs" (12 cylinders in both cases). Also, a spark-ignited NG Waukesha V-12, and two enormous, earlier-model F-M diesels, two-stroke inline 10 and 12 cyl., 18" bore, scavenged by electric blowers in the basement, and a large V-16 Cooper-Bessemer diesel (manufactured long ago in nearby Mt. Vernon, Ohio). Also, the legendary Napier "Deltic" opposed piston w/ 3 banks of 6 cylinders each, 3 crankshafts, and 36 pistons!
Yay, you've got my two favourites here - the Cizeta and the Auto Union Type C. It's amazing what a good team of engineers can do - the aluminium used in the Auto Union's engines is roughly the same grade we'd find now in garden furniture. Phenomenal stuff for the time. MOAR CYLINDERS IS MOAR BETTER!
Most V16's sound like V8's with 2-plane cranks, so are generally ho-hum. Of those, I like the Auto Unions the best. Ahead of their time in power, with about twice as much as the chassis and tires could handle. But the V16 EMD is my favorite. The rhytmic chant of the EMD in notch 8 is unmistakable. I hope they never stop building them.
I was the fortunate & proud rig electrician who took care of six EMD V20-2160v generators & one V12 stby generator on a very large, dynamically positioned drill-ship owned by the Reading and Bates drilling company. One of my other favourite 16 cylinder engines was the Coventry Climax flat 16 racing engine from the 1960's. I've never seen it mentioned on this, or any other engine related site. I wonder why ?
I made a mistake in my praise of EMD's: The V20's put out 4160Volts @ 900rpm, not 2160v. The V12 put out 480v on a separate buss system to run the ship when propulsion and drilling operations weren't in use.
Another great video! The EMD motor reminded me of my time offshore. There are some AMAZING sounding working boats. Especially crew boats. They are meant for transporting crew and supplies quickly, not as a work platform. A lot of them have straight through the hull exhaust and really sing.
Cizeta sounds like it had supercharger, but if I know correctly, it didn't have. Such unique sound makes my Mitsubishi, but it's alternator sound and ironicly, it's not broken or anything.
All of them are great, but it's baffling how that EMD at the end literally gives me chills when the other thing on the list was a 14000 RPM F1 Engine....
The intake pump on a two stroke is a scavenge pump ,not a boost pump (supercharger). It serves the same purpose that crankcase pumping serves on small two strokes.
I tried the auto union type C in assetto corsa. That thing is S C A R Y Grip is non existant and death non avoidable. Oh and its tyres really like to go *pop*
I really enjoy your channel Sir. Thank you. You have done so much research and i like the way you present the important data, numbers, history, etc. I find myself rewinding each item back to the opening slides with HP, RPM, etc. Have worked on EMDs, but until i watched this, I didn't know they are considered naturally aspirated. You must be a total engine nerd, me too. :)
I love the sound of the Peugeot rally car!! One of the only 16 cylinder engines to fire completely sequential like an F1, rather than in parallel like most V-10s, V12s and V16 engines.😉
9:45 probably depends on what the supercharger is used for. Very often in 2 stroke diesels the supercharger is used for scavenging rather than aspiration with compressed air.
You sir, are amazing. You find some of the coolest and weirdest engines and I love it. The BRM V-16, is unreal 1500cc engine and 600 hp @ 12K... WOW...
3:18 'Drove' BRM's P115 in Grand Prix Legends. Amazing engine and fabulous sound, but a complete and utter slug compared to the Lotus 49. The 49 is Cosworth DFV powered all season in GPL, unlike reality where the DFV made its debut at the 1967 Dutch GP at Zandvoort (good to be back in 2021!)
I really enjoy how your videos show aspects of automotive engineering that are overlooked by others. I'm wondering if you have done a video on racing four cylinders of historical note, stuff like formula one engines or American stuff like the Miller-Offenhauser engines that showed up in tons of stuff for decades. And there's gotta be some land speed record stuff to delve into as well (Babs, anyone?). So much great stuff Visio, and I love to watch it. And by the way, nice hat.
Imagine a small V8 upfront powering the front wheels, and a larger V8 in the back powering the rear wheels. I wonder if anyone has done something like that before?
I want to build a pair of Ford 460s into a V16, 15 liters and around 800hp. For a car to put it in, build something with a bunch of styling cues from the Buick Y Job, Cord, and others from that era, just fairly large and luxurious.
The CZ V16T, despite being two V8 , is a true V16 in the sense that the block and the crankshaft are both cast in one piece. The power takeoff is indeed in the middle, and it has mechanical fans on each side. It still retains a somewhat V8 sound from this arrangement. Also, despite being a complete crap, I love the sound of the BRM H16. It's out of this world, pretty hellish. Note that this engine is made of two 180° V8 on top of each other, and not flat (boxers) engines. It is seriously unbalanced by design.
Jeezzzaaas that BRM boosting 5.2bar it had to use high octane petrol for sure. Here i go battling to go over 1.5bar on my turbo golf i build without it detonation. Amazing some of these designs. Especially the auto unions. Who would have thought that a car in the late 30s can drive over 300km per hour. Germans don't play games
Curious. It seems as though engines whose cylinder counts are a multiple of eight have the same sound, with the halfway exception of a V8(Having either a roar or a scream depending on the crankshaft). Straight eights, despite having a roar like that of a V8, has an evenly distributed firing order, so by that, a V16 likely has an even firing order among the cylinder banks.
It's funny how some 16 cylinders can sound beautiful and musical, some sound like chaos and destruction.
and a money swallower because you need more oil and fuel
@Bob Hill No doubt. Perhaps beauty comes from both harmony, and dissonance. Anyway you you slice it, I like stuff that goes bang. Computer over electric is the future, (sigh), but glad I get to see this.
@Bob Hill I can see you are a man of both, class, and taste, but not a discriminating man, just knowledgeable in your own taste, a rare TH-cam Gentleman. Cheers, my freind !
@Bob Hill glad to resonate with someone like myself. I hoist a cold one, brother, knowing I could do the same in your backyard. Nice to have a wholesome experience on the TH-cam.
@Bob Hill Cheers, my freind !!
Love it. These videos are like hanging out with my buddy Visio, and drinking coffee, while he tells me about cool stuff he knows.
Judging by his hat it's more like driving a Tatra 87 down the highway while listening to his cool stuff.
I couldn't have put it better myself. Cheers.
From the gutteral growl of the BRM V16 to the ethereal whine of the little Peugeot these are wild machines!
Giorgio Moroder's car looks like it should have been on "Miami Vice".
Sounds like a city bus to tell the truth.
@@massmike11 Like a 6V92 with a Voith Diwa or something
My name is Giovanni Giorgo, but everyone calls me Giorgio
@@massmike11 Iirc they had to use a truck/bus gearbox to take the torque, so that would make sense.
You’d get a whole video out of the various engines Vincent Foucart has had in that 205!
I love the sound of the EMD.
Redline is like 900 rpm, but they sound like 9000, it's awesome.
samd
@@chromolyelixirsociety6672Is it any different with the SD45 and SD80MAC? Those have the V20 variant of the 645 and 710.
A 2-stroke diesel is not boosted unless there is back pressure on the exhaust. Therefore a mechanically supercharged engine is indeed naturally aspirated. This is unique to 2-stokes. It isn't possible to fill the cylinder beyond ambient pressure until the exhaust is used to drive the turbine.
You can boost a 2 stroke like the Detroit diesel because the exhaust valve is closed before the intake. The reason the supercharged version is considered NA is because it takes the place of crankcase induction on a traditional 2 stroke. The engine simply won't run without the supercharger.
This is not entirely true. The principle purpose of the blower is to scavenge exhaust and replace with fresh air. However, most 2 stroke diesels close the exhaust valves or ports before closing the intake ports, creating at least a,small amount of supercharging.
@@tracylemme1375 totally wrong. Intake never opens before the exhaust and can’t close on a ported two stroke anything, diesel or gas . If they open the intake with pressure in the cylinder and hot exhaust would dilute the intake charge with spot and co3
@@dennisford2000 It's all about timing, the ex valve will always open before the intake port is opened. Tracy Lemme is right about the purpose of the blower. The ex valve closing is what changes everything, for naturally aspirated the ex valve will close after the intake port. For supercharged the valve will close before. Exhaust back pressure does nothing.
@@troubleracing6993 research. 4-51 Detroit Diesel . Usually the cam is not important for a turbo non turbo Detroit . It’s the injectors.
The EMD diesel engines are primarily aimed for use in Diesel-Electric locomotives. EMD was originally a General Motors division. General Motors also created another diesel engine line that included V16 engines with its GMC (Jimmy) diesel series from about 1937 forward. Also two stroke, it include engines as small as single cylinder 53 cubic inch engines up to a few stationary 20 cylinder engines with 93 cu. in per cylinder. The Jimmy engines were primarily used in American over the road trucks, though a significant number were used to power farm tractors.
Another really interesting subject and video.
There are also the 149 series Detroits w/ 149 ci/cylinder, and a 6-110 (the only engine in the 110 series); also a blower-scavenged (no exhaust valves) 51 series in 2 and 4-cylinder. Largest was the 20V149, w/ up to about 3000 HP. There was also the Cleveland (nee: Winton)/GMC series, used a lot on WWII subs, w/ V-6 thru V-16 configurations; also the inline "268 series" (about 223 cu. in./cyl.) in 3,4,6 and 8-cylinders.
@@craigmclean8260 Thanks. Knew about those but couldn't collect my thoughts on them when I first posted. Faribanks-Morris also built large capacity opposed cylinder engines for industrial use starting in the early 1930's. Some of those engines ended up in WW II submarines. I know the had 12 piston engines, I wonder if they grew to be 16 piston engines. Those diesel engines had two crank shafts and two opposed pistons per cylinder.
@@cdjhyoung Yes, indeed! The Fairbanks-Morse "38D8-1/8" series was used in subs also; like the Cleveland/GMCs, typically four were installed, running generators for diesel-electric surface power, and to charge an under-deck bank of batteries for "running silent, running deep". The F-M 38D was made in 6 to 12-cylinders inline (24 pistons on the latter); there are a few videos on YT of them running; they sound amazing! There is a modern version of the 38D still made, called "Enviro-Tech", which runs on natural gas, using a diesel injected "pilot", instead of spark plugs. There is a backup power station near where I live which houses one of the old WWII submarine-vintage F-Ms, plus two newer "Enviro-Techs" (12 cylinders in both cases). Also, a spark-ignited NG Waukesha V-12, and two enormous, earlier-model F-M diesels, two-stroke inline 10 and 12 cyl., 18" bore, scavenged by electric blowers in the basement, and a large V-16 Cooper-Bessemer diesel (manufactured long ago in nearby Mt. Vernon, Ohio). Also, the legendary Napier "Deltic" opposed piston w/ 3 banks of 6 cylinders each, 3 crankshafts, and 36 pistons!
the peugeot v16 sounds like an rc car lmao
Yay, you've got my two favourites here - the Cizeta and the Auto Union Type C. It's amazing what a good team of engineers can do - the aluminium used in the Auto Union's engines is roughly the same grade we'd find now in garden furniture. Phenomenal stuff for the time.
MOAR CYLINDERS IS MOAR BETTER!
If you can’t do better add more of what you’ve got
That’s why american engines are so cheap and simple to work on yet still making insane power
Most V16's sound like V8's with 2-plane cranks, so are generally ho-hum. Of those, I like the Auto Unions the best. Ahead of their time in power, with about twice as much as the chassis and tires could handle.
But the V16 EMD is my favorite. The rhytmic chant of the EMD in notch 8 is unmistakable. I hope they never stop building them.
I wish Fourcart had kept that V16 in the car. That has to be one of the craziest sounding vehicles ever made.
I was the fortunate & proud rig electrician who took care of six EMD V20-2160v generators & one V12 stby generator on a very large, dynamically positioned drill-ship owned by the Reading and Bates drilling company. One of my other favourite 16 cylinder engines was the Coventry Climax flat 16 racing engine from the 1960's. I've never seen it mentioned on this, or any other engine related site. I wonder why ?
I made a mistake in my praise of EMD's: The V20's put out 4160Volts @ 900rpm, not 2160v. The V12 put out 480v on a separate buss system to run the ship when propulsion and drilling operations weren't in use.
That Pug sounds like nothing I've heard. Thanks again Visio, great work.
Thanks to notice the Jimenez Novia. It was an affair at the time, just the price of the F-40, with 80HP more in a NA engine
I thought the CZ 16 layout was wacky and then you tell me about a W16 in the Jimenez Novia. That top exhaust bananifold whaaat.
Im a huge fan you are the goat of car channels 💯💯 much love from Virginia Visio
Stick shifting a 16 Cilinder.. Damn what a time. Now is everything automatic -_-
I love the sound of the EMD!
Another great video! The EMD motor reminded me of my time offshore. There are some AMAZING sounding working boats. Especially crew boats. They are meant for transporting crew and supplies quickly, not as a work platform. A lot of them have straight through the hull exhaust and really sing.
1st one.
Love your dedication for the work
Cizeta sounds like it had supercharger, but if I know correctly, it didn't have. Such unique sound makes my Mitsubishi, but it's alternator sound and ironicly, it's not broken or anything.
I had a Mitsubishi Mighty Max, and it's engine definitely had a whine to it.
All of them are great, but it's baffling how that EMD at the end literally gives me chills when the other thing on the list was a 14000 RPM F1 Engine....
The intake pump on a two stroke is a scavenge pump ,not a boost pump (supercharger). It serves the same purpose that crankcase pumping serves on small two strokes.
6:37 Chap on the left; "Why is my camera not working?"
Finally someone gives credit to Jimenez Novia.
The Cizeta is gorgeous.
Didn't know Maserati has made a V16.. Thanks for sharing
Love the channel and the sounds of all this engine's keep up the good work.
I tried the auto union type C in assetto corsa.
That thing is S C A R Y
Grip is non existant and death non avoidable.
Oh and its tyres really like to go *pop*
Also the brakes appear to be drum-type, so presumably those are from the pre-discbrake era?
Wow! There are some incredible engines! I love your content and learn something in every video. Thank you!
Weekends are for petrolheads!
Thanks I’m part to VisioRscer.
nice
I really enjoy your channel Sir. Thank you. You have done so much research and i like the way you present the important data, numbers, history, etc. I find myself rewinding each item back to the opening slides with HP, RPM, etc.
Have worked on EMDs, but until i watched this, I didn't know they are considered naturally aspirated. You must be a total engine nerd, me too. :)
The BRM V16 sounds actually scary- it gives me goosebumps and I love it!
As far as I'm concerned - ANY 16 cylinder engine is a strange one. Great video as always!
Your channel has grown so much, keep it going bro!
Gotta love how the EMD at high revs sounds kinda like a washing machine.
Excellent flick as always VR. ⭐
Cheers,, 🍻😎👍!!
My favourite was definitely the peogeot
A v16 in a 205 is Insane
8:30 when you ride a bike and don't spect a vehicle sounding like this
Another interesting and enjoyable video,thanks for digging up information on some of the oddest engines out there. 👍
I love the sound of the Peugeot rally car!! One of the only 16 cylinder engines to fire completely sequential like an F1, rather than in parallel like most V-10s, V12s and V16 engines.😉
Another great show
We need a video on classic to oddball model engines, like ones used in rc cars and airplanes.
9:45 probably depends on what the supercharger is used for. Very often in 2 stroke diesels the supercharger is used for scavenging rather than aspiration with compressed air.
You sir, are amazing. You find some of the coolest and weirdest engines and I love it. The BRM V-16, is unreal 1500cc engine and 600 hp @ 12K... WOW...
Cool video like always 😎😎 thank you
Build a good V4 and just scale up to a V16 is easy
Another great video my friend!
Love the new graphics! Thanks!
3:18 'Drove' BRM's P115 in Grand Prix Legends.
Amazing engine and fabulous sound, but a complete and utter slug compared to the Lotus 49.
The 49 is Cosworth DFV powered all season in GPL, unlike reality where the DFV made its debut at the 1967 Dutch GP at Zandvoort (good to be back in 2021!)
You are a legend of this platform - thanks for the really interesting videos! 👍
Thanks! For many years train locomotives here in Denmark were powered by EMD 567 V16. I love how they sound :)
Thank you for gathering all of this information and producing a video of it all! It's great to hear about the oddball/forgotten engines of time. :)
Anyone else think the EMD 2 stroke was still the best sounding engine?
honestly the sound of the big boat engine give me goosebumps
I literally love your videos!
The Cizeta-Moroder was a childhood fantasy for me
7:43 amazing sound
great job 👏
Forgot the old Caddy V16. Low rpm and smooth as silk.
The way people jumps at the Bugatti cracks me up every time..
I used to work on the GM locomotive v20 engines who was definitely a lot of fun
I thought you gotta show the obsecure Porsche flat-16 engine in here...
1:16 That engine sounds like it's hella pinging ☠
I really enjoy how your videos show aspects of automotive engineering that are overlooked by others. I'm wondering if you have done a video on racing four cylinders of historical note, stuff like formula one engines or American stuff like the Miller-Offenhauser engines that showed up in tons of stuff for decades. And there's gotta be some land speed record stuff to delve into as well (Babs, anyone?). So much great stuff Visio, and I love to watch it. And by the way, nice hat.
I was a bit disappointed that a twin turbo Paxman YHXL V16 wasn't mentioned. All that complication for just 800 bhp.
Another great video 👍👍 greetings from South Africa
The Peugeot just sounds like a straight cut gear transmition driving down the road.....can't even hear the motor
5:00 Sounds like a RC model :)
Thanks for sharing this video 💪 greetings
The Puegeot sounds more like a kid's rc car. But some them are very musical.
Imagine a small V8 upfront powering the front wheels, and a larger V8 in the back powering the rear wheels. I wonder if anyone has done something like that before?
The V16 BRM is a masterpiece of humanity
Fourcarts Peugeots 205 V16: How to sound like a cheap RC car when you're a life-sized vehicle. 🤣
I want to build a pair of Ford 460s into a V16, 15 liters and around 800hp. For a car to put it in, build something with a bunch of styling cues from the Buick Y Job, Cord, and others from that era, just fairly large and luxurious.
If I heard that Peugeot 205 coming towards me I would absolutely shit myself lmao
Man how do you not have 1 million subs yet???
8:30 makes it all worth it XD they got spooked...
The CZ V16T, despite being two V8 , is a true V16 in the sense that the block and the crankshaft are both cast in one piece. The power takeoff is indeed in the middle, and it has mechanical fans on each side. It still retains a somewhat V8 sound from this arrangement.
Also, despite being a complete crap, I love the sound of the BRM H16. It's out of this world, pretty hellish. Note that this engine is made of two 180° V8 on top of each other, and not flat (boxers) engines. It is seriously unbalanced by design.
the 205 sounds like a full size RC car
10:12 this totaly sounds like Union Pacific diesel trains 😃😃 also the same sound is in Train Simulator games
Love the sound of that big GM diesel.
How bout some videos on the engines that keep the world going, like most common truck engines form Japan?
I love 2 stroke diesel engines sound.
Great video
The EMD Diesel sounds powerful enough to rotate the planet!
Loved this
My favourite 16 cylinder is the Isdera Autobahnkurier...
Peugeot 205 with Honda engine screams like a mutha fucka
Have you heard of the w16 LS engine that is used for dirt track racing with Sprint cars.
All your videos r good to watch thanks
The Bugatti U16 is the definition of unicorn because there's hardly any engine that exists in a "Twinline" configuration out there. Aka the U shape.
Jeezzzaaas that BRM boosting 5.2bar it had to use high octane petrol for sure. Here i go battling to go over 1.5bar on my turbo golf i build without it detonation. Amazing some of these designs. Especially the auto unions. Who would have thought that a car in the late 30s can drive over 300km per hour. Germans don't play games
The Novia was created by my father's friend in Monteux, Paca, France
Happy to see this legendary car here !! 😁
Another awesome video!
Curious. It seems as though engines whose cylinder counts are a multiple of eight have the same sound, with the halfway exception of a V8(Having either a roar or a scream depending on the crankshaft). Straight eights, despite having a roar like that of a V8, has an evenly distributed firing order, so by that, a V16 likely has an even firing order among the cylinder banks.
Gracias. Gran trabajo. Felicidades.
A company built a couple more of those Auto Unions some years ago
I had a cbr 600. I can’t imagine 4 of those connected. Jeez
hehe look at these people shitting their pants @8:32 cant stop laughing