No Steph increased the viewership, but teams felt like they were also that guy, so they just started chucking up shots. That's just how it is nowadays.
Totally discard that three point line. Make everything a two cuz it appears now that it’s much harder to shoot the ball close to the basket cuz defense is more intense.
@@MrAkhereo so playing GTA makes you wanna be a criminal and car jack people 🤔 No. Being "influenced" should make you wanna be better not just do it to get away with it. Play smarter not harder.
So wen everyone is a saying 'Steph changed the game', what do yall mean🤣..laughable bunch. The 3point is his legacy right, so how does he get to change the game and be celebrated for that yet have no responsibility for the same wen things go south😂😂😂???? Y'all suck for this position I tell yah
@@cybomakh210 what are you talking about? It is a FACT that teams have shot more 3's since Steph's 2016 season. Jxmy Highroller just posted a vid about this recently. Do some research kid.
As a European the prevalence of 3pt shooting doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is the constant travelling and the no-calls, the fact that defense plays a lesser role, and of course that a lot of stars are almost always injured.
I would start there too. Every other game is being played like an all-star game. Constant travels, no foul calls, flopping specialists, refs not having a clue what they are doing, etc. I mean, Drummond got ejected for 2nd technical foul (because Wemby tripped and fell) and then returned to the floor after a review ffs!!!
steph said it once: dont blame me because you are taking those bad shots stop tagging me i m not telling you to shoot that shit. He is right everyone believes that are Steph Curry when they are not, he has a talent that he crafted over the years he has the sniper others dont thats it dont blame him blame the fools who think that they are him
It doesn't matter what he said then. It's clear he influenced the game and changed it. If Steph Curry didn't exist the game would be played differently.
@@MrOdaddy2011Steph has no control over how other people play, only himself. That's an excuse. I stopped watching because everybody can't shoot but wont stop shooting. Can't dribble but keep carrying and traveling to the hoop. LeBron's garbage offensive fouls not called, and the free throws advantage he gets, the superteaming, the lack of accountability, the podcasting instead of training...it's trash.
It shows how arrogant, taller, more athletic players are. They thought they had a monopoly on dominating the NBA with physical play. They didn't know a guy with Steph's build could be the foundation of a dynasty by working on his game and earning the skills to dominate without dunking.
If teams respected Curry and Klay like they should, we wouldn't be in this mess. They convinced themselves that what Curry and Klay were doing was as simple as chucking up a bunch of 3s. The prerequisite to building a dynasty around 3pt shooting is drafting 2 of the best shooters of all time. If you don't have the equivalent of prime Steph and prime Klay, then you can't replicate their success.
The League wanted positionless basketball. Everyone is a guard and a 3-point specialist. NBA basketball now looks like streetball…..carrying, traveling, gather-stepping and poor officiating. It’s ugly but they got what they wanted. We can’t blame Steph!
@@ultimatechrisso6592 I wouldn't say players are more skilled now when they're obviously lacking fundamentals so much referees started sleeping on their job of calling on obvious violations.
@@ultimatechrisso6592 if you are only looking for players who have great handles and can shoot the three, then yes. However, good post players of the past would feast on this generation of players. Look how Kenny Lofton man-handled guys in the post just a couple years ago in summer league….but that’s not the brand of basketball they want now.
@@dgreater1I’d say they are more skilled in the “well rounded” sense. Most players can do more than players of old. The issue isn’t skill or talent, but rather heart for the game, in my opinion. They are divas now.
And Steph will move off ball just to find his shot, then there's Klay who can actually drop 30-60 pts with just catch and shoot. They are on the league of their own
Watching threes upon threes is indeed boring as shit, but, can we also acknowledge that the showboating and arrogance of these players might also have something to do with the decline in viewership? It isn't just one thing, it's all of it. The crooked officiating, the half-assed defense and one-dimensional offense that's identical on every team, the entitlement and showboating of the players, the sitting out for load management or not playing any kind of meaningful defense because they "need to conserve their energy for offense" and every other excuse made for some "superstar" and his lack of effort on one end... The league just sucks in every way, and these players don't have any respect for who came before them or for the next generation of ballers that they're leaving the league in worse shape for.
i agree kobe said it once: the most NBA-players dont love the game. Kobe, Curry, LBJ, KD, Luka and some others love the game and you can see it when you watching their games. And then you have the arrogant side with all their trashtalking, one-dimensional playstyle like you said. they are not exceptional or great, they just play it for the easy money. the refs are even worse. the players think they can be Curry or Kobe without hard work and only with their talent, the coaches think they all have curry and thompson in their roster and let them all shoot 50 3s with like 10% scoring. Thats bad and boring. We need a change inside the NBA from the ground. Better coaches, better player and way better refs. A new rulebook with more strict rules, penaltys if refs ignor or abuse them. Coaches need get punished if they do season over season the same shit playstyle their team is not build for. We need more player who love the game in the NBA and not this ego-monkeys we have at the moments as the new "superstars". curry and the warriors changed the game because they played with their strenghs.
The 3 point line is an inherent "flaw" in Basketball, at some point, it would be abused, Curry just happened to be that guy. Regardless, the NBA has way worse problems right now.
"Abused"? Jesus Shuttlesworth 🥲 held the 3 pt record for 10 years! And Steph rarely is at the line, his step back 3 is a signature! If Steph just hung around the 3 pt line, you got a point but he constantly moves. He shoots the finger roll, the mid, the long 2 and from the logo. "Abused" the wrong word when i can show footage from THIS year of guys just waiting on the line to shoot a 3 and miss. Steph has earned the right to shoot whenever he feels it. Stop the 🧢
I believe in the old saying. If you can’t beat them join them. Steph in his prime was so lethal. And was unstoppable at the three point range. That others thought they had to fight fire with fire. Which destroyed part of the game
NBA in 00s is less skilled on shooting sure but it's the peak hoops in terms of entertainment, every team has different type of basketball, you have pistons lockdown defense, Lakers elite big and guard combo, Spurs insane passing and ball movement, Suns Run and Gun offense, Mavs Unicorn Bigman, Toronto's Dunk City, Orlando's Elite Rim defense, Etc. it's just so fun to watch
Basketball evolves, and it just happened that the Warriors won chips with shooting 3s as their main offense. Then teams started to think "oh they win multiple chips shooting 3s, we can make our players shoot bunch of 3s so we could also win", which is crazy. Steph and Klay mastered their crafts, they can shoot the lights out with their shooting. They are not just regular shooters, they have the system made for them and Steph and Klay put on the work to make it happen.
"NBA in 00s is less skilled" less skilled is the wrong word... they are just getting defended better if players today gets to be defended like in the 00's --- their shooting percentage will GO DOWN
@@digitalian99 "less skilled on shooting" read it again. This era is boring and isn't fun to watch for sure but the gap in hooting skills is huge. Athletecism is far superior on 00s with flashy dunks, posters and layups.
@markjosephhuerno3391 i don't thing they are really less skilled in terms of shooting. The average difference is less than 2 %. But defense was actually a thing which makes %s drop on average.
Steph started shooting 3s because he is a smaller guard that had to find a way to be effective, im not saying you can't shoot threes there's KD but he doesn't need to rely on it to score it's just part of his game he added, now we got 6"10, 7"0 centers shooting 3s while yes its nice to have a stretch big they dont need to rely on the 3 ball like Steph does or any small guard, infact they're there to do the opposite
another problem that compounds to it its how expensive being a fan is, you gotta have like 3 streaming services to follow the league just to see them chuck 3’s every 5 seconds or for outrageous techs out of thin air
Hoop Report I’m a 45 year old Singaporean. The current problems with NBA is just more than just 3P shots. The commissioner took away defence. Refs anyhow call technical🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️. Player are allowed to travel more than three steps carrying Ball. Refs give more free throws to the favourite team. If they keep this on they will just finish themselves Cheers and Merry Christmas
Who saw the sixers game last night. The ref wanted them to lose like bruh. These nba refs suck calling silly fouls. Not calling clear fouls just terrible officiating.
There are many reasons, for me, one is everyone calling a juicer and flopper the GOAT. The softness of the game now. The entitlement of the athletes now and the list goes on.
Another good video- there are so many terrible basketball channels out there it’s refreshing to find one that is able to talk about the deeper realities of the NBA!
The real issue is the NBA rules they allow so much travel, they don't allow physical play so we get no defense. They allow moving screens and rarely call them the issues is in the rules they took away the hand check then they took away the ability to fight through screens. Allow players to fight through screens again start calling travel and start calling the moving picks issue solved. Yes three points will still be shot but you bring back some value to the mid range when you can run guys off the line with defense
I don't love the 3 at all but my biggest issue with the league is lack of diversity in playing style. When I was growing up don Nelson mavericks shot 3s dantoni suns shot a lot of 3s I didn't care because not everyone was doing it. If a few teams shoot a lot of 3s then fine but when all 30 teams are doing the same thing playing the same way. The game has become less interesting.
People keep saying it's not Steph, it's players tryna be like him and coaches wanting to have a team like his. That still goes back to Steph being the influence. Being like Mike helped the league. Can't say the same for being like Steph
Players trying to be like Mike didn’t help the league, it just led to a bunch of selfish guard play and shot chucking. Coaches allowing players to imitate MJ and Curry when they’re no where near as talented or high bball iq is the problem
I don't get the logic too..if Steph's legacy is he change the game wit the 3point, then u can't back pedal wen the very topic is about too much of that.. Steph is to blame since he has changed the game, if u praise him for changing the game then u can't leave him out of that conversation when it no longer looks pretty ...simple
If you are a decent shooter, 3-point attempts are an easy way out. You can disregard strategizing yourself & your teammates on driving inwards as well as disregard the opponent's defense strategies, which lessens both mental and physical fatigues. A possible solution to revert the current meta is by punishing failed 3-point attempts. Some crazy ideas on top of me head are reverting back the nature of defense-favored NBA rules, making the hoop smaller, or add a new rule about not being able to hog the ball outside the 3-point line for certain amount of time (like the 3-second paint rule but for the offense's 3-point line).
IMO we need more rivalries to keep things interesting. Drama is what brings in money both for ticket sales and the NBA media viewership. Everyone is friendly nowadays.
Also I like competitive basketball but a dynasty basketball team brings in money too. People want to see the next making of a Michael Jordan or LeBron James getting 4, 5, or 6 rings with a dominant team.
Steph, the rules to benefit offense over defense, players having too much power to change personnel and staff, load management, lack of playing hard in general, players afraid of getting hurt, players being glass fragile, Adam silver and players cupcaking it up and leaving the second things don’t go their way…that’s essentially what offed the nba! That and them playing games like pick ups instead of treating each game like it matters!! Nba should just drop 20 games and see how that works!!
Celtics average 50+ 3PA per game? That's wild. In 2K, even when I edit the coach, players, and playbook to be a 3 point focused team, the CPU still refuses to attempt 40 3 pointers consistently.
Jeremy Lin got me into the NBA and when you brought up Lin vs Kobe it gave me a lot of nostalgia. Basketball used to be full of passion back in the days, the fans live for these individual battles where they would go at each other to prove themselves, these days, players would dodge those match ups by sitting out, or they don't even take on the challenges anymore to play against each other. Their plays carry very little pride with them, or they never cared in the first place. Steph Curry isn't to blame for the failings of today's NBA, 2016 Golden State Warriors or 2016 in general was one of the most fun season I've had watching NBA, while it's true that they shot a lot of 3 pointers that season, but they were also not a one dimensional team. They have 3 point shooters like Steph and Klay, they have midrange shooter like Shaun Livingston, they have inside presence like Draymond and Bogut, and they played defense. I still remember Steph and James Harden had a really potent little floater game back in the days, it was fun to watch players having so many moves and was actually skilled at playing the game, it wasn't just getting past a screen and chucking up 3 pointers all night. Today's players just look very low energy, very lazy, it felt like that when they chuck up 3 pointers. The game right now feels very one dimensional. It doesn't matter how many sets of plays you run, the gist of that play was basically getting past a screen or multiple screens to get either the shooter or the roller open, it's the same thing every time. It's boring to watch. You also can't be physical with any players, which means you can play defense at all. The game does not look very appealing right now.
Watch any NBA game on TV and gauge the crowd reactions to 3's compared to midrange shots. Now tell me, which elicits more excitement from them? Be honest.
They way to fix 3 point shooting and make the game better to watch is have a variable 3 point shooting light. The LED light in on the 3 point line and the backboard. When the light it on, a three point shot can be made. When the light is off, only 2 point shots. Max out the time the light is on for 25 minute game play. It goes on and off randomly during game play. When the light is off, it will force teams to play closer to the rim. Since it is random, no team can plan for a three point shot. The teams will just be guessing when it might come on for them.
i think they could solve the issue by pushing the 3pt line back from 23ft 9inches to like 25feet and change the 3pt arc to where the wing of the 3 point arc runs into the sideline out of bounds. no more corner 3's only 25ft from above the top of the key and the wing. there would be less 3 pointers shot because it's further back and there is less 3 point line to use without the corner 3. then we might actually get to watch some real basketball again.
Interesting thought! I agree the corner three needs to go. They could also consider a cap on the number of 3pt. attempts per game. Not sure what that number is, but go beyond it and it's a technical foul.
People saying players trynna be like Steph. No one said this when mfs were trynna be like Kobe or MJ players were trynna copy their fadeaway shots. Also do think a large part of the issue is the NBA making it difficult for people to be able to watch games. You need 4 streaming services not to mention blackout zones for games you think should have access to
Wemby and other big men could be super dominant down low with some killer post moves. He's a killer shot blocker! Big men shouldn't shoot 3s regularly. Even if they make 32% of them. They can make a much bigger difference when they are down low, drawing the defense to them. Look at the MVP, Jokic
It’s called “too much of a good thing.” We lack creativity in today’s society, so when something works, everyone wants to copy it. I was listening to T-Pain talk about how he keeps getting demo tapes from rappers who sound like other rappers. He’s like: “bring me something different!”
The only way to defend the 3 is by sticking close to the shooter at the arc. This leaves the lane wide open for drivers. If you watch NBA games the defenders have to defend the lane too so they play half way, resulting in open 3's.
It’s not Steph Curry’s fault. He’s actually GREAT. It’s the coaches faults for not telling their players to stop 🛑 with the bricks! Everyone trynna be like Curry without the talent and accuracy.
The league's overdependence on analytics definitely plays a role, but it's complex. If these teams legitimately think they can't compete without launching threes, do we really know better? Then again, it may be a self fulfilling prophecy, with the penalty of a lack of threes being paid more attention than excellent in other areas. The only solution is a team ranked below 6 in three point attempts winning a championship. Can that happen, though? This may be the natural result of the current ruleset.
I think they should move the three-point line back to 25 ft and either eliminate the corner or have a timer for how long a player can stand in the corners
they need to make the court bigger and the 3 pointer further. NBA needs to make the game more challenging and force teams to be more physical. If you make the 3 point line 30 feet, coaches are going to change the game plan more for interior plays. Fix the refs too and then maybe the NBA can start improving.
I don't blame Steph at all. This guy is uniquely talented. A literal anomaly. The problem is that teams are trying to replicate something that they can't. The real problem is the officiating. Everybody can travel and palm the ball and the foul situation is ridiculous. Some are called for barely touching someone while others can just barrel into somebody and not get called. You add in the crying about no calls and load management, it's really sad. Add flopping into the mix and the lack of defense, we've got a game that doesn't really intrigue me. It's ugly regardless, which is a shame. I remember loving this game.
Here is the thing, you see a team lighting it up from 3... its something most of us cant do... But when you see a team missing everything, fans CAN do better than that shit...
To make teams take less 3s, maybe make the 3 point line a lil farther so it would make them think if the shot is worth it or not. And make players rethink and not chug up 3s like crazy, this would make them chug up as much 3s as before thinking steph curry did it, we will do it too, but, soon they will realize that it lowers their efficiency and make them creative and not to chug up all 3s
I personally grew up with 80s and 90s basketball. The game was way more physical back then. I enjoyed every minute when I was young but nowadays ... smh.
New rule: each team has the right to miss 20 times for 3 points, after 20 missed attempts for 3 points, then the attempt for 3 points will be counted as 2 points. That's how you will make teams shoot for 3 points by players who really know how to do it.
How you gonna blame the best 3 point shooter of all time for the buffoonery of 3 point shots taking place? Steph Curry is the only player I as a cavalier fan dreaded watching him take. Only players close was Klay and peak Harden. Blame analytics for this crap.
The problem is every team is now trying to copy what the Warriors did but none of them have anywhere close to the shooters to do it. Steph and Klay are two of the best 3 point shooters in history and yeah, they shot a lot of 3s in their championships but they also ran a really sophisticated offensive system with a lot of screens and passing and took good 3s, not the absolute garbage 3s that so many teams are chucking up just for the sake of shooting a 3 as opposed to taking a 2. It's shit to watch.
The problem is Adam Silver. The NBA viewership is tanking because of how greedy he is. Gambling has exposed the integrity of the league. A player is now facing charges for betting against himself and fakes injury to win the bets. Licensing has gone insane, needing several subscriptions to watch games at home. I can buy NBA League pass and I can't watch my own HOME team without getting another subscription. Ticket prices have skyrocketed. Referees are deciding games with how incompetent or corrupt they are. Fans are paying rediculous prices to then see their star player ejected for clapping his hands. Players are load managing but that is not lowering the ticket prices. There are no refunds/discounts and I wasted my PTO to go to the game. You think any Heat fan wants to pay hundreds for a shitty seat to watch basketball terrorist Terry Rozier play cause Jimmy Butler has a tummy ache?
It's not Steph, it's NBA itself. They failed to hear to the fans for years. Now they got what the deserve. Bad refs,techs everywhere, soft game and players ,no rivalries,no adjustment to the rules in the 3 point trend, ton of games making each game's impact to the final team position in the table minimal. Tons of adds,making the game 3 hour long, it s just so boring rn that it's been 2 years that I don't even watch the highlights anymore. Euroleague on the other side is so much entertaining, passionate fans with crazy atmosphere and players caring for their jersey, giving it all out to win,every game is a war!
No. The three-point line itself, Saperstein's Folly, did. Three-pointers are a broken mechanic. It just took players and coaches 50 years to realize this.
@@janepatton8100 In the 1960s, they thought it was too far away to reliably make. Now over 40% of shot attempts are from there, with numerous teams taking more threes than twos. It gets worse every year. Broken.
@@ColdSnapVA Indeed. But again, this is the current culture of the game. In time it will change. The game itself doesn't need to be changed. That would create more problems as it would prevent current (as well as retired players) from being accurately accessed in lieu of their historical rankings.
If I was a coach I would just be straight up with these guys. We can use the three in our game plan if you're shooting double digit 3s and your name isn't Steph Curry we'd have a problem.
It’s a lot of things, no one playing defense, the league not allowing defense, 3 point contest every night, rich players who really don’t care about winning/losing, political stuff, etc.
A big reason viewership is down: PEOPLE ARE BROKE and need to bust their ass ten times harder and don't have the time they used to. So they just watch the highlights of the game on youtube. We are being overworked and underpaid in a fast paced world and have to settle for the highlights so we can get the best of the game without using time we no longer can afford. It's not the game. It's not the shot. Step back and see the whole forest instead of over analyzing the trees.
90s was tough because MJ was dominating, 2000s was slow and methodical because you had shaq/kobe and the spurs, 2010s was fast paced and drilling 3s because you had lebron and curry. Now i'd say, 2020s will all be about breaking basketball. Haliburton throwing the ball into the glass to dish an assist, wemby jumping from the 3pt line to make a mid range shot, doncic/ball shooting from weird angles but they can't miss. And who knows what's gonna happen next. It's all a cycle anyways. In 5-10 years the nba's gonna be physical again because you have to find ways to exploit wemby, okc, celtics etc ...
All teams shoot 3s now and players rarely play any defense anymore...boring as anything! I only watch replay highlights nowadays as it's just too boring to sit through the whole game!
Refs are to blame as well.. quick Ts, soft calls.. that’s why u have players don’t want to play tough defense, cause they would be foul out by half time if they do
It is entirely possible that you included the clip that actually ruined it, but it wasn't Steph Curry. It was the time when Paul George said "its a bad shot" and got criticized for it. We all needed to echo him saying those are bad shots, not criticizing him any time the bad shot goes in.
If Steph retires (which the NBA catalyzes by wearing out Steph by not calling abvious fouls against him), probably Lebron too is retired by then, viewership will slide down even more.
This is the 5th year that Kuminga has been a "rising star!" He still has significant deficiencies in his game, such as, he plays too fast and forces the action too often, he continues to get abused on defense, especially weak-side, because his court awareness is bad and he loses his man in the wash, and he is a liability in the half-court offense because he can't create his own shot regularly, he's an average passer at best and, he has an average handle. His athleticism which is his strength, allows his to go for lobs, get out on the break, and jump out of the gym. He's also improving his set shot a bit. But, he's still a long way away from being a consistent player who's All-Star worthy for a player in his 5th year now!
Do you want to see less 3-point shooting in the NBA?
As a warriors fan I feel like every team just wants to shoot against the warriors
Will more midrange shots increase ratings?
Bring back the handcheking rule, I beg 🙏🏾 the NBA for this !
No Steph increased the viewership, but teams felt like they were also that guy, so they just started chucking up shots. That's just how it is nowadays.
Totally discard that three point line. Make everything a two cuz it appears now that it’s much harder to shoot the ball close to the basket cuz defense is more intense.
It’s not Steph. It’s the mfs tryna be like Steph
Gotta do what you gotta do to win just no more sauce
Steph had 10 points yesterday against Indiana and ruined my parlay. He’s not the old Steph anymore unfortunately
@ stop gambling money not his fault you betting
@@VViralMoment Nah, players be manipulating parlays and gamblers. Everything in sports is Vegas ball ever since they legalized gambling. It's all WWE.
The nba has been trying to catch up with the warriors for awhile now so it’s obvious that they changed the way how the game is played
The technical fouls from refs need to stop. Players can even get competitive and talk trash. There's barely any rivalries.
There should be more technicals
@@nydibs less.
Well said… yes the trash talking was the magic and the refs just knew it.
Viewership is down because mfs make it hard to watch games, trying to milk the top % of viewers as much as possible
Steph Curry didn't make bad shooters chuck 3's.
I mean they were just influenced by him.
@@MrAkhereo so playing GTA makes you wanna be a criminal and car jack people 🤔 No.
Being "influenced" should make you wanna be better not just do it to get away with it.
Play smarter not harder.
@@MrAkhereohe didn’t tell them to shoot those shots if not capable tho
So wen everyone is a saying 'Steph changed the game', what do yall mean🤣..laughable bunch. The 3point is his legacy right, so how does he get to change the game and be celebrated for that yet have no responsibility for the same wen things go south😂😂😂???? Y'all suck for this position I tell yah
@@cybomakh210 what are you talking about?
It is a FACT that teams have shot more 3's since Steph's 2016 season.
Jxmy Highroller just posted a vid about this recently. Do some research kid.
As a European the prevalence of 3pt shooting doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is the constant travelling and the no-calls, the fact that defense plays a lesser role, and of course that a lot of stars are almost always injured.
And flopping
I would start there too. Every other game is being played like an all-star game. Constant travels, no foul calls, flopping specialists, refs not having a clue what they are doing, etc. I mean, Drummond got ejected for 2nd technical foul (because Wemby tripped and fell) and then returned to the floor after a review ffs!!!
LOl "injured" i.e. lazy overpaid divas.
Agree … they need to bring refs from Europe to the NBA
steph said it once: dont blame me because you are taking those bad shots stop tagging me i m not telling you to shoot that shit.
He is right everyone believes that are Steph Curry when they are not, he has a talent that he crafted over the years he has the sniper others dont thats it dont blame him blame the fools who think that they are him
It doesn't matter what he said then. It's clear he influenced the game and changed it. If Steph Curry didn't exist the game would be played differently.
@@MrOdaddy2011Steph has no control over how other people play, only himself. That's an excuse. I stopped watching because everybody can't shoot but wont stop shooting. Can't dribble but keep carrying and traveling to the hoop. LeBron's garbage offensive fouls not called, and the free throws advantage he gets, the superteaming, the lack of accountability, the podcasting instead of training...it's trash.
Bullshit!
Bullshit
It shows how arrogant, taller, more athletic players are. They thought they had a monopoly on dominating the NBA with physical play. They didn't know a guy with Steph's build could be the foundation of a dynasty by working on his game and earning the skills to dominate without dunking.
If teams respected Curry and Klay like they should, we wouldn't be in this mess. They convinced themselves that what Curry and Klay were doing was as simple as chucking up a bunch of 3s.
The prerequisite to building a dynasty around 3pt shooting is drafting 2 of the best shooters of all time. If you don't have the equivalent of prime Steph and prime Klay, then you can't replicate their success.
Exactly thy think any shooter can replicate curry and Thomsons success it’s only a matter of time until they all realize
Dudes were shooting lights out.
The League wanted positionless basketball. Everyone is a guard and a 3-point specialist. NBA basketball now looks like streetball…..carrying, traveling, gather-stepping and poor officiating. It’s ugly but they got what they wanted. We can’t blame Steph!
But players are more skilled now
@@ultimatechrisso6592 I wouldn't say players are more skilled now when they're obviously lacking fundamentals so much referees started sleeping on their job of calling on obvious violations.
Exactly NBA is all travelling and no defense
@@ultimatechrisso6592 if you are only looking for players who have great handles and can shoot the three, then yes. However, good post players of the past would feast on this generation of players. Look how Kenny Lofton man-handled guys in the post just a couple years ago in summer league….but that’s not the brand of basketball they want now.
@@dgreater1I’d say they are more skilled in the “well rounded” sense. Most players can do more than players of old. The issue isn’t skill or talent, but rather heart for the game, in my opinion. They are divas now.
No, because Steph will happily drive the basket if that is the open shot.
And Steph will move off ball just to find his shot, then there's Klay who can actually drop 30-60 pts with just catch and shoot. They are on the league of their own
@@MobPsychoooooo Exactly. I am an extremely casual fan, but even I can see it.
Watching threes upon threes is indeed boring as shit, but, can we also acknowledge that the showboating and arrogance of these players might also have something to do with the decline in viewership? It isn't just one thing, it's all of it. The crooked officiating, the half-assed defense and one-dimensional offense that's identical on every team, the entitlement and showboating of the players, the sitting out for load management or not playing any kind of meaningful defense because they "need to conserve their energy for offense" and every other excuse made for some "superstar" and his lack of effort on one end... The league just sucks in every way, and these players don't have any respect for who came before them or for the next generation of ballers that they're leaving the league in worse shape for.
i agree
kobe said it once: the most NBA-players dont love the game. Kobe, Curry, LBJ, KD, Luka and some others love the game and you can see it when you watching their games. And then you have the arrogant side with all their trashtalking, one-dimensional playstyle like you said. they are not exceptional or great, they just play it for the easy money. the refs are even worse. the players think they can be Curry or Kobe without hard work and only with their talent, the coaches think they all have curry and thompson in their roster and let them all shoot 50 3s with like 10% scoring. Thats bad and boring.
We need a change inside the NBA from the ground. Better coaches, better player and way better refs. A new rulebook with more strict rules, penaltys if refs ignor or abuse them.
Coaches need get punished if they do season over season the same shit playstyle their team is not build for. We need more player who love the game in the NBA and not this ego-monkeys we have at the moments as the new "superstars".
curry and the warriors changed the game because they played with their strenghs.
The 3 point line is an inherent "flaw" in Basketball, at some point, it would be abused, Curry just happened to be that guy. Regardless, the NBA has way worse problems right now.
"Abused"?
Jesus Shuttlesworth 🥲 held the 3 pt record for 10 years! And Steph rarely is at the line, his step back 3 is a signature!
If Steph just hung around the 3 pt line, you got a point but he constantly moves.
He shoots the finger roll, the mid, the long 2 and from the logo.
"Abused" the wrong word when i can show footage from THIS year of guys just waiting on the line to shoot a 3 and miss.
Steph has earned the right to shoot whenever he feels it. Stop the 🧢
You literally did not make an argument here.
I've been saying this for a long time. It's not the players' fault. It's the fact that shooting 3s is better than any midrange shot will ever be.
Inherent is a word often used by they/thems
Pop telling 50% PLUS of the NBA Market they are trash? And then... 53% viewership down?
Refs, is the main reason, bad calls, betting and not allowing trash talking.
Nope it's teams spamming three's
I believe in the old saying. If you can’t beat them join them. Steph in his prime was so lethal. And was unstoppable at the three point range. That others thought they had to fight fire with fire. Which destroyed part of the game
NBA in 00s is less skilled on shooting sure but it's the peak hoops in terms of entertainment, every team has different type of basketball, you have pistons lockdown defense, Lakers elite big and guard combo, Spurs insane passing and ball movement, Suns Run and Gun offense, Mavs Unicorn Bigman, Toronto's Dunk City, Orlando's Elite Rim defense, Etc. it's just so fun to watch
Basketball evolves, and it just happened that the Warriors won chips with shooting 3s as their main offense. Then teams started to think "oh they win multiple chips shooting 3s, we can make our players shoot bunch of 3s so we could also win", which is crazy. Steph and Klay mastered their crafts, they can shoot the lights out with their shooting. They are not just regular shooters, they have the system made for them and Steph and Klay put on the work to make it happen.
"NBA in 00s is less skilled"
less skilled is the wrong word... they are just getting defended better
if players today gets to be defended like in the 00's --- their shooting percentage will GO DOWN
@@digitalian99 "less skilled on shooting" read it again. This era is boring and isn't fun to watch for sure but the gap in hooting skills is huge. Athletecism is far superior on 00s with flashy dunks, posters and layups.
@markjosephhuerno3391 i don't thing they are really less skilled in terms of shooting. The average difference is less than 2 %. But defense was actually a thing which makes %s drop on average.
@d.columbia9603 it's more of a Refs stupid and Soft calls with players flopping + defense can't keep up with super fast offense.
No, everyone and their mom shooting threes ruined the NBA
Steph started shooting 3s because he is a smaller guard that had to find a way to be effective, im not saying you can't shoot threes there's KD but he doesn't need to rely on it to score it's just part of his game he added, now we got 6"10, 7"0 centers shooting 3s while yes its nice to have a stretch big they dont need to rely on the 3 ball like Steph does or any small guard, infact they're there to do the opposite
another problem that compounds to it its how expensive being a fan is, you gotta have like 3 streaming services to follow the league just to see them chuck 3’s every 5 seconds or for outrageous techs out of thin air
Hoop Report I’m a 45 year old Singaporean. The current problems with NBA is just more than just 3P shots. The commissioner took away defence. Refs anyhow call technical🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️. Player are allowed to travel more than three steps carrying Ball. Refs give more free throws to the favourite team.
If they keep this on they will just finish themselves Cheers and Merry Christmas
defense? watch 92 and 93 finals ymca defense. those are worse than nba defense right now lmao. oldhead just refuse to admit it
What hurts so bad about watching the modern NBA is that even years past, every team had a different and distinct play style.
Who saw the sixers game last night. The ref wanted them to lose like bruh. These nba refs suck calling silly fouls. Not calling clear fouls just terrible officiating.
There are many reasons, for me, one is everyone calling a juicer and flopper the GOAT. The softness of the game now. The entitlement of the athletes now and the list goes on.
Another good video- there are so many terrible basketball channels out there it’s refreshing to find one that is able to talk about the deeper realities of the NBA!
it's fun when one guy does it, but when everyone does, it isn't fun no more
Easy to fix, if a team misses three 3-pointers in a row, subtract a point... for every consecutive one after that, keep subtracting 1 point.
Its NOT STEPH, those BIG man trying to be shooting guards and Lebron teaching kids to flop and be soft!! 🤦♂️😬🤦♂️
A small guard shooting 3's isn't the NBA's problem. KAT being the 3pt Champion is a problem. Get their big butts back on the block.
The real issue is the NBA rules they allow so much travel, they don't allow physical play so we get no defense. They allow moving screens and rarely call them the issues is in the rules they took away the hand check then they took away the ability to fight through screens. Allow players to fight through screens again start calling travel and start calling the moving picks issue solved. Yes three points will still be shot but you bring back some value to the mid range when you can run guys off the line with defense
If NBA try to adopt FIBA rules, it will be more exciting!
They're CHUCKERS! Nobody wants to see a bunch of 3 pointers getting chucked up all game.
That’s what it is, it’s not the number of 3s, it’s the number of bad shots being taken
I don't love the 3 at all but my biggest issue with the league is lack of diversity in playing style. When I was growing up don Nelson mavericks shot 3s dantoni suns shot a lot of 3s I didn't care because not everyone was doing it. If a few teams shoot a lot of 3s then fine but when all 30 teams are doing the same thing playing the same way. The game has become less interesting.
Answer is yes and made the NBA softer. (insert Kahwi laugh)
Soft is missing tons of games like him.
Conveniently left out that Wemby is 41% on 9+ attempts the last 8 games. 👍🏻
People keep saying it's not Steph, it's players tryna be like him and coaches wanting to have a team like his. That still goes back to Steph being the influence. Being like Mike helped the league. Can't say the same for being like Steph
Players trying to be like Mike didn’t help the league, it just led to a bunch of selfish guard play and shot chucking. Coaches allowing players to imitate MJ and Curry when they’re no where near as talented or high bball iq is the problem
I don't get the logic too..if Steph's legacy is he change the game wit the 3point, then u can't back pedal wen the very topic is about too much of that.. Steph is to blame since he has changed the game, if u praise him for changing the game then u can't leave him out of that conversation when it no longer looks pretty ...simple
If you are a decent shooter, 3-point attempts are an easy way out. You can disregard strategizing yourself & your teammates on driving inwards as well as disregard the opponent's defense strategies, which lessens both mental and physical fatigues.
A possible solution to revert the current meta is by punishing failed 3-point attempts. Some crazy ideas on top of me head are reverting back the nature of defense-favored NBA rules, making the hoop smaller, or add a new rule about not being able to hog the ball outside the 3-point line for certain amount of time (like the 3-second paint rule but for the offense's 3-point line).
IMO we need more rivalries to keep things interesting. Drama is what brings in money both for ticket sales and the NBA media viewership. Everyone is friendly nowadays.
Also I like competitive basketball but a dynasty basketball team brings in money too. People want to see the next making of a Michael Jordan or LeBron James getting 4, 5, or 6 rings with a dominant team.
You couldn't watch a Nuggets game for 4 years. 2 MVP and a championship without local viewership! Crazy!
Steph, the rules to benefit offense over defense, players having too much power to change personnel and staff, load management, lack of playing hard in general, players afraid of getting hurt, players being glass fragile, Adam silver and players cupcaking it up and leaving the second things don’t go their way…that’s essentially what offed the nba! That and them playing games like pick ups instead of treating each game like it matters!! Nba should just drop 20 games and see how that works!!
Celtics average 50+ 3PA per game? That's wild.
In 2K, even when I edit the coach, players, and playbook to be a 3 point focused team, the CPU still refuses to attempt 40 3 pointers consistently.
Jeremy Lin got me into the NBA and when you brought up Lin vs Kobe it gave me a lot of nostalgia. Basketball used to be full of passion back in the days, the fans live for these individual battles where they would go at each other to prove themselves, these days, players would dodge those match ups by sitting out, or they don't even take on the challenges anymore to play against each other. Their plays carry very little pride with them, or they never cared in the first place.
Steph Curry isn't to blame for the failings of today's NBA, 2016 Golden State Warriors or 2016 in general was one of the most fun season I've had watching NBA, while it's true that they shot a lot of 3 pointers that season, but they were also not a one dimensional team. They have 3 point shooters like Steph and Klay, they have midrange shooter like Shaun Livingston, they have inside presence like Draymond and Bogut, and they played defense. I still remember Steph and James Harden had a really potent little floater game back in the days, it was fun to watch players having so many moves and was actually skilled at playing the game, it wasn't just getting past a screen and chucking up 3 pointers all night.
Today's players just look very low energy, very lazy, it felt like that when they chuck up 3 pointers. The game right now feels very one dimensional. It doesn't matter how many sets of plays you run, the gist of that play was basically getting past a screen or multiple screens to get either the shooter or the roller open, it's the same thing every time. It's boring to watch. You also can't be physical with any players, which means you can play defense at all. The game does not look very appealing right now.
Watch any NBA game on TV and gauge the crowd reactions to 3's compared to midrange shots. Now tell me, which elicits more excitement from them? Be honest.
They way to fix 3 point shooting and make the game better to watch is have a variable 3 point shooting light. The LED light in on the 3 point line and the backboard. When the light it on, a three point shot can be made. When the light is off, only 2 point shots. Max out the time the light is on for 25 minute game play. It goes on and off randomly during game play. When the light is off, it will force teams to play closer to the rim. Since it is random, no team can plan for a three point shot. The teams will just be guessing when it might come on for them.
i think they could solve the issue by pushing the 3pt line back from 23ft 9inches to like 25feet and change the 3pt arc to where the wing of the 3 point arc runs into the sideline out of bounds. no more corner 3's only 25ft from above the top of the key and the wing. there would be less 3 pointers shot because it's further back and there is less 3 point line to use without the corner 3. then we might actually get to watch some real basketball again.
Interesting thought! I agree the corner three needs to go. They could also consider a cap on the number of 3pt. attempts per game. Not sure what that number is, but go beyond it and it's a technical foul.
3 Point Line activates when the shock clock hits 14.
New NBA floors can light it up the 3 point line when active.
The Last GSW VS Mavs game was a Splash Battle and I Loved it
Steph and Clays styles complimented the team. You didn t see Festus Azilli or Adrew Bogut shooting 3s. Everyone played their position.
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People saying players trynna be like Steph. No one said this when mfs were trynna be like Kobe or MJ players were trynna copy their fadeaway shots. Also do think a large part of the issue is the NBA making it difficult for people to be able to watch games. You need 4 streaming services not to mention blackout zones for games you think should have access to
Wemby and other big men could be super dominant down low with some killer post moves. He's a killer shot blocker! Big men shouldn't shoot 3s regularly. Even if they make 32% of them. They can make a much bigger difference when they are down low, drawing the defense to them. Look at the MVP, Jokic
Can't wait to watch the NFL on Christmas from now on 😅🤣😅
It’s called “too much of a good thing.” We lack creativity in today’s society, so when something works, everyone wants to copy it.
I was listening to T-Pain talk about how he keeps getting demo tapes from rappers who sound like other rappers. He’s like: “bring me something different!”
There wouldn’t be as many 3’s if you could play defense
The only way to defend the 3 is by sticking close to the shooter at the arc. This leaves the lane wide open for drivers. If you watch NBA games the defenders have to defend the lane too so they play half way, resulting in open 3's.
It’s not Steph Curry’s fault. He’s actually GREAT. It’s the coaches faults for not telling their players to stop 🛑 with the bricks! Everyone trynna be like Curry without the talent and accuracy.
The league's overdependence on analytics definitely plays a role, but it's complex. If these teams legitimately think they can't compete without launching threes, do we really know better? Then again, it may be a self fulfilling prophecy, with the penalty of a lack of threes being paid more attention than excellent in other areas. The only solution is a team ranked below 6 in three point attempts winning a championship. Can that happen, though? This may be the natural result of the current ruleset.
I think they should move the three-point line back to 25 ft and either eliminate the corner or have a timer for how long a player can stand in the corners
Quick answer: Hell No
3:49 LOL that Rust westBrick clip is criminal 😭 stopped doing this to rust
they need to make the court bigger and the 3 pointer further. NBA needs to make the game more challenging and force teams to be more physical. If you make the 3 point line 30 feet, coaches are going to change the game plan more for interior plays. Fix the refs too and then maybe the NBA can start improving.
I don't blame Steph at all. This guy is uniquely talented. A literal anomaly. The problem is that teams are trying to replicate something that they can't. The real problem is the officiating. Everybody can travel and palm the ball and the foul situation is ridiculous. Some are called for barely touching someone while others can just barrel into somebody and not get called. You add in the crying about no calls and load management, it's really sad. Add flopping into the mix and the lack of defense, we've got a game that doesn't really intrigue me. It's ugly regardless, which is a shame. I remember loving this game.
Here is the thing, you see a team lighting it up from 3... its something most of us cant do... But when you see a team missing everything, fans CAN do better than that shit...
To make teams take less 3s, maybe make the 3 point line a lil farther so it would make them think if the shot is worth it or not. And make players rethink and not chug up 3s like crazy, this would make them chug up as much 3s as before thinking steph curry did it, we will do it too, but, soon they will realize that it lowers their efficiency and make them creative and not to chug up all 3s
Draymond leaving Westbrook that open will never not be comedy
I personally grew up with 80s and 90s basketball. The game was way more physical back then. I enjoyed every minute when I was young but nowadays ... smh.
New rule: each team has the right to miss 20 times for 3 points, after 20 missed attempts for 3 points, then the attempt for 3 points will be counted as 2 points. That's how you will make teams shoot for 3 points by players who really know how to do it.
How you gonna blame the best 3 point shooter of all time for the buffoonery of 3 point shots taking place? Steph Curry is the only player I as a cavalier fan dreaded watching him take. Only players close was Klay and peak Harden. Blame analytics for this crap.
The problem is every team is now trying to copy what the Warriors did but none of them have anywhere close to the shooters to do it. Steph and Klay are two of the best 3 point shooters in history and yeah, they shot a lot of 3s in their championships but they also ran a really sophisticated offensive system with a lot of screens and passing and took good 3s, not the absolute garbage 3s that so many teams are chucking up just for the sake of shooting a 3 as opposed to taking a 2. It's shit to watch.
The other things killing the NBA are the refs calling touch fouls and NOT calling travels. It’s ridiculous.
The problem is Adam Silver. The NBA viewership is tanking because of how greedy he is. Gambling has exposed the integrity of the league. A player is now facing charges for betting against himself and fakes injury to win the bets. Licensing has gone insane, needing several subscriptions to watch games at home. I can buy NBA League pass and I can't watch my own HOME team without getting another subscription. Ticket prices have skyrocketed. Referees are deciding games with how incompetent or corrupt they are. Fans are paying rediculous prices to then see their star player ejected for clapping his hands. Players are load managing but that is not lowering the ticket prices. There are no refunds/discounts and I wasted my PTO to go to the game. You think any Heat fan wants to pay hundreds for a shitty seat to watch basketball terrorist Terry Rozier play cause Jimmy Butler has a tummy ache?
BLAME ADAM SILVER FOR ALLOWING GAME RIGGING REFS...
It's not Steph, it's NBA itself. They failed to hear to the fans for years. Now they got what the deserve. Bad refs,techs everywhere, soft game and players ,no rivalries,no adjustment to the rules in the 3 point trend, ton of games making each game's impact to the final team position in the table minimal. Tons of adds,making the game 3 hour long, it s just so boring rn that it's been 2 years that I don't even watch the highlights anymore.
Euroleague on the other side is so much entertaining, passionate fans with crazy atmosphere and players caring for their jersey, giving it all out to win,every game is a war!
No. The three-point line itself, Saperstein's Folly, did.
Three-pointers are a broken mechanic. It just took players and coaches 50 years to realize this.
Silly argument. The 3 point line has been there for over 50 years. It's the culture of this generation of players... nothing more or less.
@@janepatton8100 In the 1960s, they thought it was too far away to reliably make.
Now over 40% of shot attempts are from there, with numerous teams taking more threes than twos.
It gets worse every year.
Broken.
@@ColdSnapVA
Indeed. But again, this is the current culture of the game. In time it will change.
The game itself doesn't need to be changed. That would create more problems as it would prevent current (as well as retired players) from being accurately accessed in lieu of their historical rankings.
Its fun to watch when the 3s go in. The problem is a bunch of guys who arent good shooters taking 3s.
No! The problem here is that all the players think that they are Steph, and they are not!
The solution is pretty simple, if you go for a 3 point and you miss then no one in your team can touch the ball, it's always the opponent turn.
Its the accessibility to TH-cam - I watch highlights only since viewing live games cost too much SUBSCRIPTION FEEs for those who are not in abroad.
If I was a coach I would just be straight up with these guys. We can use the three in our game plan if you're shooting double digit 3s and your name isn't Steph Curry we'd have a problem.
The NBA should raise the rim, make the court bigger and 3 point line farther
that kahwi leonard laugh caught me off guard 7:12
It’s a lot of things, no one playing defense, the league not allowing defense, 3 point contest every night, rich players who really don’t care about winning/losing, political stuff, etc.
And a few years ago there were rumours that these mfs wanted to add a 4 POINT LINE 🤦♂!!! Hopefully, that rumour won't be brought back again
The problem is the people around NBA basketball that are not athletes, just nerds on the computer saying shoot more threes.
It's reminds me of how people used to hate on bank shots. Some probably still do.
A big reason viewership is down: PEOPLE ARE BROKE and need to bust their ass ten times harder and don't have the time they used to. So they just watch the highlights of the game on youtube.
We are being overworked and underpaid in a fast paced world and have to settle for the highlights so we can get the best of the game without using time we no longer can afford. It's not the game. It's not the shot. Step back and see the whole forest instead of over analyzing the trees.
Is it gonna be like this forever?
Or not?
90s was tough because MJ was dominating, 2000s was slow and methodical because you had shaq/kobe and the spurs, 2010s was fast paced and drilling 3s because you had lebron and curry.
Now i'd say, 2020s will all be about breaking basketball. Haliburton throwing the ball into the glass to dish an assist, wemby jumping from the 3pt line to make a mid range shot, doncic/ball shooting from weird angles but they can't miss. And who knows what's gonna happen next.
It's all a cycle anyways. In 5-10 years the nba's gonna be physical again because you have to find ways to exploit wemby, okc, celtics etc ...
All teams shoot 3s now and players rarely play any defense anymore...boring as anything! I only watch replay highlights nowadays as it's just too boring to sit through the whole game!
Yes, he actually sold his soul to the devil for that Hall of Fame limitless 3 badge and destroyed watchability of the game.
I live in south america, and there's no way of finding any nba games to watch.Theres like 5 subscriptions that gatekeep most viewers too.
Its never only one thing, Its usually A few contributing factors...
The idea that owners and coaches figuring out how math works after 50 years has ruined the NBA is absolutely hilarious and I love it.
Refs are to blame as well.. quick Ts, soft calls.. that’s why u have players don’t want to play tough defense, cause they would be foul out by half time if they do
Feel like it’s expensive to pay for various streaming platforms to watch yo games. There still be hella exciting players to tune into
This what mark Jackson told Steph not to down him but he told him he so good he made everyday run to 3 point line shit crazy he was right
That was one of the nicest way to say 'Im him, y'all shouldn't try those."😂
It is entirely possible that you included the clip that actually ruined it, but it wasn't Steph Curry. It was the time when Paul George said "its a bad shot" and got criticized for it. We all needed to echo him saying those are bad shots, not criticizing him any time the bad shot goes in.
At this point remove the 3 point line.
It will be more fun.
By the way:
Where are the dunks!
The golden era splash bros. Warriors would rank near the bottom of attempted 3s today.
That's how bad things have gotten.
If Steph retires (which the NBA catalyzes by wearing out Steph by not calling abvious fouls against him), probably Lebron too is retired by then, viewership will slide down even more.
For me, it's the opposite. When the mercenary LeBron leaves, I will start watching my beloved Lakers again.
Lebron only plays less than 82 games. Don't blame him for the 2378 others.
NBA league pass is too expensive!
What if... Like fouls after a certain amount, if you get 5 or so dunks, everyone after that is worth 3
This is the 5th year that Kuminga has been a "rising star!" He still has significant deficiencies in his game, such as, he plays too fast and forces the action too often, he continues to get abused on defense, especially weak-side, because his court awareness is bad and he loses his man in the wash, and he is a liability in the half-court offense because he can't create his own shot regularly, he's an average passer at best and, he has an average handle.
His athleticism which is his strength, allows his to go for lobs, get out on the break, and jump out of the gym. He's also improving his set shot a bit. But, he's still a long way away from being a consistent player who's All-Star worthy for a player in his 5th year now!