My country of Singapore 🇸🇬 purchased 2 Vastergotland class submarine from Sweden 🇸🇪 . The Singapore Navy submariners spent several years training at Sweden. The submarines were refurbised and upgraded and renamed the Archer Class. The submarines are christening as the RSS Archer and RSS Swordsman.
Fun facts from the exercise between HMS Gotland and USS Ronald reagan: some weeks in the exercise a message was sent to the sub, "are you still here, or have you left?" Some time delay, and an answer with a close up picture of USS Ronald Reagan and a timestamp in the picture "Yes, we are still here" :-) When understaning this. First of all, a stirling powered submarine is small (extremely small when compaired to a nuclear sub!), and small makes hiding easyer. The second thing is that the stirling engine is one of a kind, the vibration on the engine is so low that you can have a coin standing on its side on the engine without flipping down when the engine is running. It is powerful and scilent. The sub runs faster under water than over. And how long it can stay under water without surfacing is classified, but we are talking about weeks. Small and deadly.
The Swedish archipelago consists of 30,000 islands. As a sailor around the world, I can say that if you can navigate in Sweden, you can navigate anywhere in the world. Most of the time, when countries meet the sea, there are no islands, only deep water, but not in Sweden.
The bottom floor is quite clean of dangers though. Compared to my small town, Söderhamn, the islands outside of Stockholm are very easy to navigate. Here there are sharp undersea rocks. Some are just underneath the surface making it hard even for small boats.
@@filipdahlberg4420SB90? Do you mean CB90? ...I guess it would be SB90 in Sweden, considering it's "stridsbåt", but you wrote in English, so CB90... 😉
We in Sweden has always punched way above our weight. Small millitary, but its a compentent millitary with good tech. Hopefuly, we start training way more soldiers than we do now soon
Eeeh we didn't in ww2 and for sometime after ww2. During the cold war sure. It's unlikely we will turn the trend on our military as the population has lost a lot of pride for Sweden. Can thank our politicians for that.
@@Jinkuzu do you assume that because of swedens neutrality or or do you have a link to something i can check out? A quick google only led me to info saying sweden started massively investing in the army from 1936
@@dratermilsum Yeah we were, but we didnt have the equipment necessary to produce the vehicle and arms needed to defend ourselfs. Alot of military gear was bought from Germany with iron ore trade. Have borrowed books from libaries in Sweden, been to museums and read what I've been able to find online regarding what material we had in ww2. Like our biggest ships are two costal defense ships with 4x 248 mms If I recall correctly. Nothing Germany could not deal with if they desired. Our early tanks were bougbt in and ones we produced where already outdated as the war started. In cold war we started having capabilties to make it costly enough to attack ous with centurions and our own strv 103 tanks aswell as jet production. Im saying this as a Swedish history nerd.
Of course, you didn't know about the equipment that was on the submarine against sonar, since Sweden invented that technology. What is not mentioned in the film is that the US never managed to find the Swedish submarine during the 6 months of training/training. Now Sweden is developing an even better submarine, which should be able to lie on the seabed and divers should be able to swim in and out of the submarine while it remains on the seabed.
@@PulkaSkurken Yep, it's over 20 years old and no one else has either been able to build a similar one or managed to build technology to find our submarines.
United States of America lease HMS Gotland, Swedish-flagged, commanded, and manned-for one year for use in anti-submarine warfare exercises in 2005 with United States Third Fleet . The exercise revealed vulnerabilities in the U.S. Navy's sonar technology and carrier defenses, leading to US extended the lease in 2006 for another 12 months for further study.
And topping up that tank with a refrigerator unit while snorkling is a lot less noisy than an old school diesel sub running a conventional engine to charge batteries.
Swedish subs are made with another purpose than the UK and US subs. Swedish subs were built to defend the Swedish coast and mostly navigate in the Baltic Sea. While UK and US subs are built as a deterrent that needs to travel all around the world. So makes much more sense for UK and US to have nuclear and makes more sense for Sweden to have smaller diesel since they easily can return to bases or get refueled from nearby ships.
Yeah. Not only is the average depth of the Baltic Sea just 55 meters (less than the length of a football pitch), but we don't require nuclear powered subs because one single Gotland class sub can stay under water for weeks, which means it can patrol up and down the whole Swedish east coast without surfacing once.
if you can sink and aircraft carrier you pretty much removed the Americans way to wage war abroad.... without them they have to invade countries the "old fashioned way" by moving lots and lots of troops and land them somewhere
It reminds me of when in my youth NASA spent millions to develop a pen which could write in zero gravity while the Russians just used a pencil. Sometimes you have to just Keep It Simple Stupid. pencil
AiP subs are way more silent then nuclear powered subs. Nuclear powered subs needs to run it's cooling loop while a diesel powered on can go on batteries, the positive thing whit nuclear powered subs is that they can stay out in sea alone for months while a diesel powered on needs to refuel.
Obviously the US, UK etc. produce the best blue-water submarines in the world. But for the specific and unique conditions of the Baltic the Swedish submarines are definitely unmatched.
@@SonsOfLorgar This very much depends on what critera one percives to be the most important one. Range , top speed , endurance , or perhaps being silent ? I'd argue being silent is more important than everything else no matter the ocean , sure our submarines will not reach China and due to the slow speed (compared to nuclear) it takes roughly 20 days to reach US east coast but calling that "sucks balls" is stretching it. A26 will fix deployment of frogmen , but after that they want smaller submarines with focus on firepower
The Stirling Engine - and a propeller - that are stealthy as hell- don’t know how, and our new sub -launched 2025 is even more stealthy and powerful. (the Blekinge class).
@@CombatReadyHQ Subbrief has a great Video Compilation on both The Gotland and the excercise in USA. he also has some good information on the diffrence between the large Submarine States (USA, GB, RU and SWE) Also the Project A26 aka Blekinge - Class is likely not going to be finished Before 2028. The reason is that they have changed parts of the design in order to rectify some flaws. There was also that little issue with the Wuhan related Virus. her Keel is laid though Best regards.
I got to see a shot of where I live :) The main Swedish naval base of Karlskrona. @ 11:49 in the video :) Been on a few of these Gotland-class subs aswell got a ride once :) An old friend of mine has a dad which is/was one of the captains, stationed here in Karlskrona, sent to the US for training during the 2000s. Can't say you were incorrect by anything, only correct in your assumptions as you later got to know from the video you watched. Keep up the good work :) Fun fact: A26 (Blekinge class) is currently being built around 500 meters away from where I sleep 😎
Nuclear subs are noisier then diesel subs. A nuclear reactor needs water to cool the reactor, turn to steam and the steam drives a generator before the steam cools to water and it all repeats. A secondary watersystem cools the first one. That is a lot of moving water, and parts, that produce noise, and you need that system to regulate the reactor and gain power, so you can't remove that noise. Diesel subs use electric engines under water. It is silent, save turning the propeller.
11:10 So you know it is Sweden , Germany and Poland that have subs in the Baltic sea within NATO. I don't think that Norway operates in the Baltic sea they are occupied by the Norwegian sea , Barents sea and the north sea .
Poland have no submarines. In the baltic sea it kind only Sweden, Germany and Russia that have submarines in the baltic sea. Nether Denmark or Finland have submarines. And Sweden have 4 submarines in the baltic sea
@@TheSwedishSoldier ORP Orzeł is the only Polish submarine, and new ones won't reach the Polish fleet before the end of this decade. The resuscitated Orka program features the world's leading submarine manufacturers, expanded by new players from the Republic of Korea (Hanwha Ocean and Hyundai Heavy Industries) This info is from march 2024 . I mean the have a very old one kilo class sub just to uphold the knowledge within their navy . Now they spend a lot of money on their Air Force , Army and Navy that's includes more and newer subs . Nice name you have by the way 🙂👍
@@mrbrand4720 Thanks! as a trained ranger soldier, I wanted a suitable name and this was it :) . i knew about the kilo sub, but thought i didn't include it as it is not in active service. But it will be very interesting to see what happens now. But keep in mind that Poland has requested a quote for 2 Swedish submarines HMS Södermanland and HMS Östergötland. Which in such cases will give the Polish fleet a proper boost and make it very difficult for Russia to control Kaliningrad
When the sub called in the sinking of the us ship the us said nah, you aren't even close, cus they couldn't find the sub. in the end they submerged right in the cluster of us ships to prove they really were there.
They Americans leased the submarine for 1 year, for more combat training - I have zero intel of that year but I’ll guess both countries learned a lot. (They leased the submarine and crew off course).
They initially leased it for one year, then extended the lease for another.. This was almost 20 years ago now.. But yes, Sweden has really good subs & crews manning them, and apparently have a bit of a reputation in NATO naval circles..
The Gotland isnt a pure diesel as is repeated here, but rather a diesel-electric, so essentially battery powered for silent running. I think there was even talk about using hydrogen fuel cells in it during its construction. At the time of the submarine hunt exercise the R.Reagan was U.S.A' s newest super carrier and had just been put into commission. After the exercise the entire strike group was deployed to the middle east.
I asked chatgpt to calculate it. 1 HMS gotland, adjusted for inflation is $421million US. For that you can get 6.02 F18 2.81 F22 or 12.04 F16s. I would assume the statement should be: "a fraction of what the fighter jets stationed on ronald reagan costs"
@@mrborgeusborg1541 But now you are only talking about production costs of the fighter itself while the cost for the submarine is the total costs that also include research, development, tools, weapons etc. If you include everything then F22 comes pretty close actually.
I read an interview with a Swedish navy officer where he told this. Every now and then Russian navy ships threaten to cross the border into Sweden but several times a Swedish submarine has popped up in from of the and said "Hi, we're here". That always makes the Russian ships turn around and go home.
The One on one, on "diesel submarines":, what it means and should correctly be referred to as "diesel-electric submarine". This type of submarine only use it's onboard diesel engines, at the surface, so they only use the onboard diesel engines partly, and it's normal not a direct drive!, so the diesel power-plant is driving generators only, that both charge the huge batteries package, and on the surface also give power to propulsion, but underwater operations the submarine runs total silent on batteries alone and that powers a very efficient electro-motors package that is directly attach to the propellers (as on nuclear submarines too!, they just get their electric from a steam driven generator instead, -that get is its steam pressure from nuclear generator). The Swedish Navy have since the 70s use a "Scotch innovation" know as a "Sterling engine" to charge the batteries when needed underwater. The Swedish Submarine fleet is get updated, and a hole new next generation of Blekinge-class submarine is coming in service now, with a lot of improvements. The Blekinge-class had an "early life" as a common project between Sweden, Norway and Denmark, first planned at the beginning of the 1990s, the project was called "U-båt 2000 or the Viking class, but the Danish Navy discontinued their submarine service in 2004, a political choice, not the Navy's!, and do they regret that now!. Norway lost interest in spending money in developing a hole new next generation submarine, so Sweden became alone, but as the project got slow down it not die, so Sweden/Kockums(SAAB) just slowly continued working on the project, they Kockum's got new German owners, ThyssenKrupp, but ThyssenKrupp, started to steal pattents/intellectual properties from Kockum's so the and the Swedish government got involved and got ThyssenKrupp group "kick out" of the ownership. Damen Shipyards Group, (the Dutch defence, shipbuilding, and engineering conglomerate company based in Gorinchem, Netherlands), became a new partner what secured the Blekinge-class submarines. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
They hired the most bombastic audacious writer for this video! Sounds like it was written by a 10 year old looking for complicated words in a dictionary.
This is probably on of the worst intros of the Swedish subs. Nato doesn’t have anything like it, these are subs made for archipelagos. They can be submerged for a month but still small to get into harbors undetected, lurking and collecting data and get out without anyone knew they were there. The nuclear subs are big things built to cruise the vast oceans. Different things. The successor of Gotland which is more than 20 years old now can do a whole lot more than sinking ships. Search for A26. Very interesting is the small heat signature which is very hard to remove from a nuclear sub. And the interoperability with Gripen fighters and Global Eye reconnaissance for a single strategic board.
I remember this, they had to refit the sub. as the salinity of the Pacific isn't anywhere near that of the Baltic Sea. The Commander of the sub at the time was a woman. (shouldn't matter, but she was). The Swedish Navy in return learned lots. And yes, Sterling engines. And also some of the best torpedo and target acquisitioning systems on the planet. In today's money they go for about £100-150M a piece.(out of the factory, no fancy mil-tech installed)
Considering that a Swedish man put propellers on American ships, designed and built Monitor and with Swedish Seaman beat the South in the civil war. We Swedes have been designing weapons since the 1600. Regarding Submarines, I think that the best Subs are built in Germany, Japan and Sweden.
6:00 look at the first month in Ukraine then Ukraine with more or less nothing held back the Russian invasion. it had nothing to with tech and gear then, only bravery, common sense and smart people! And Teamwork!
”A submarie from Sweden sunk an American aircraft carrier” (during an exercise). The stealth properties of those subs are well known, but what I don’t get is how their relatively small torpedoes can sink a US aircraft carrier, which are almost unsinkable
They can not since as you said they are small and lack explosive power, same with the original claim as the US always goes into wargames with massive handicaps to not just stomp over everything. so no a small slow and short ranged coastal sub from a country smaller then a city did not sink a carrier.
@@Svenne-man-1880wrong. Each torpedo has a ~600kg warhead. They are also designed to pinpoint and strike from below the targets keel, creating a dual effect as the detonation shockwave first pushes the ship and water out from the detonation,forming a vacuum bubble, and then, when the energy is spent, the bubble implodes, pulling both water and ship back into that void, commonly breaking the keel of the ship with the ships own unsupported mass.
I thought that video was a vit audacious to be honest. And it’s left me stunned! The audacity of leaving me stunned goes to show that you should never underestimate TH-cam videos.
The americans leased the hms gotland and a crew for some time after this exercise. You would be an idiot to belive thay don't have a cauntermessure that is not known to the public. That said, it still hapned and its an now outdated swedish sub.
Shockingly bad knowledge of Norway. First it is not a Baltic sea nation. Second they've been a Nato country since its inception. Ffs, even Natos general secretary is a Norwegian. I'm a Swede. Born in Finland.
The writing was quite sensationalistic, many many big words lol. The submarine game is all about silence. Everybody is geting better over time, but Russia is at least a decade behind the US, and China two.
I guess from the voice that it's AI created (sorry to people who have a deep and monotone speech), but why the extra S? It's HMS, not HSMS, Hans/Hennes Majestäts Skepp, very similar to Britain
That was a pretty horrible video. They really failed to explain why Gotland is such a good submarine. The main pro is that the can run on diesel underwater instead of electrics. The diesel engine is also one of a kind that can be run almost completely silent underwater for weeks, normal diesels need to run on electrics while submerged for at most a couple of days. The rubber covering makes it almost invisible to sonar. Its main drawback is range, it's made for and excels in the baltic sea but on the big oceans range it's not good enough. The US thought about buying some but they realized they had no use for such a short range sub when their prospective enemies are so far away and also spread out.
A Swedish sub never sunk any US carriers what happened was that the Gotland was allowed by the US navy to sink a carrier as that would allow the US navy to learn how to better defend against small, slow and coastal submarines.
I can see why you question our navy since you have been world dominant for long. But thats over, Swedens technologi have surpassed UKs so be happy we are in NATO.
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My country of Singapore 🇸🇬 purchased 2 Vastergotland class submarine from Sweden 🇸🇪 . The Singapore Navy submariners spent several years training at Sweden. The submarines were refurbised and upgraded and renamed the Archer Class. The submarines are christening as the RSS Archer and RSS Swordsman.
I didn't know that, interesting! And great names!
Yes really good names, I like them and always good to see nations working together to develop
New info for me lol
Wow, didn't know that //Old Sweed
@@perthyren601 Riktigt intressant ändå!
Fun facts from the exercise between HMS Gotland and USS Ronald reagan: some weeks in the exercise a message was sent to the sub, "are you still here, or have you left?"
Some time delay, and an answer with a close up picture of USS Ronald Reagan and a timestamp in the picture "Yes, we are still here" :-)
When understaning this. First of all, a stirling powered submarine is small (extremely small when compaired to a nuclear sub!), and small makes hiding easyer. The second thing is that the stirling engine is one of a kind, the vibration on the engine is so low that you can have a coin standing on its side on the engine without flipping down when the engine is running. It is powerful and scilent. The sub runs faster under water than over. And how long it can stay under water without surfacing is classified, but we are talking about weeks. Small and deadly.
Considering Sweden invented the propeller the swedes know how to build it silent.
Also the first Monitor "sub"
Propellern kommer från Tyskland
The Swedish archipelago consists of 30,000 islands. As a sailor around the world, I can say that if you can navigate in Sweden, you can navigate anywhere in the world. Most of the time, when countries meet the sea, there are no islands, only deep water, but not in Sweden.
Stockholm archipelago have almost 30000 island. Sweden in total have almost 270000 islands. No country on earth have more.
The bottom floor is quite clean of dangers though.
Compared to my small town, Söderhamn, the islands outside of Stockholm are very easy to navigate.
Here there are sharp undersea rocks. Some are just underneath the surface making it hard even for small boats.
Sweden makes great things. This sub is one example. From the AT4 to cv90, archer artillery and JAS Gripen, its good equipment.
Sb90
@@filipdahlberg4420SB90?
Do you mean CB90?
...I guess it would be SB90 in Sweden, considering it's "stridsbåt", but you wrote in English, so CB90... 😉
@@SgtMclupus I’m calling it by the Swedish name yes :)
We in Sweden has always punched way above our weight. Small millitary, but its a compentent millitary with good tech. Hopefuly, we start training way more soldiers than we do now soon
Eeeh we didn't in ww2 and for sometime after ww2. During the cold war sure.
It's unlikely we will turn the trend on our military as the population has lost a lot of pride for Sweden. Can thank our politicians for that.
@@Jinkuzu do you assume that because of swedens neutrality or or do you have a link to something i can check out? A quick google only led me to info saying sweden started massively investing in the army from 1936
@@dratermilsum Yeah we were, but we didnt have the equipment necessary to produce the vehicle and arms needed to defend ourselfs.
Alot of military gear was bought from Germany with iron ore trade.
Have borrowed books from libaries in Sweden, been to museums and read what I've been able to find online regarding what material we had in ww2.
Like our biggest ships are two costal defense ships with 4x 248 mms If I recall correctly. Nothing Germany could not deal with if they desired. Our early tanks were bougbt in and ones we produced where already outdated as the war started.
In cold war we started having capabilties to make it costly enough to attack ous with centurions and our own strv 103 tanks aswell as jet production.
Im saying this as a Swedish history nerd.
@@Jinkuzu oh damn, thx (y)
Of course, you didn't know about the equipment that was on the submarine against sonar, since Sweden invented that technology. What is not mentioned in the film is that the US never managed to find the Swedish submarine during the 6 months of training/training.
Now Sweden is developing an even better submarine, which should be able to lie on the seabed and divers should be able to swim in and out of the submarine while it remains on the seabed.
yepp this is our old stuff in the video.
@@PulkaSkurken Yep, it's over 20 years old and no one else has either been able to build a similar one or managed to build technology to find our submarines.
2 years* the initial lease was for 12 months which got extended for another 12 after the debacle.
and during that time thay used 24 ships including Ronald Reagan (not classified)
It shd be a continuation of of technology and training in the UK!@@konzetsu6068
United States of America lease HMS Gotland, Swedish-flagged, commanded, and manned-for one year for use in anti-submarine warfare exercises in 2005 with United States Third Fleet . The exercise revealed vulnerabilities in the U.S. Navy's sonar technology and carrier defenses, leading to US extended the lease in 2006 for another 12 months for further study.
That's correct!
The key point is that a Stirling engine don't need air .
It does need oxygen, they just bring it along in a tank as liquid.
@@torbjornulrichs8570 thx for the info .
You learn a new thing every day 🙂
And topping up that tank with a refrigerator unit while snorkling is a lot less noisy than an old school diesel sub running a conventional engine to charge batteries.
Kind of true, a sterling engine only need heat (temperature difference really) but to get heat from diesel You still need oxygen.
and its completely quiet
Swedish subs are made with another purpose than the UK and US subs. Swedish subs were built to defend the Swedish coast and mostly navigate in the Baltic Sea. While UK and US subs are built as a deterrent that needs to travel all around the world. So makes much more sense for UK and US to have nuclear and makes more sense for Sweden to have smaller diesel since they easily can return to bases or get refueled from nearby ships.
US attack subs primary role is to escort the US carrier groups making it a requirement that they can keep up with the other ships.
Yeah. Not only is the average depth of the Baltic Sea just 55 meters (less than the length of a football pitch), but we don't require nuclear powered subs because one single Gotland class sub can stay under water for weeks, which means it can patrol up and down the whole Swedish east coast without surfacing once.
if you can sink and aircraft carrier you pretty much removed the Americans way to wage war abroad.... without them they have to invade countries the "old fashioned way" by moving lots and lots of troops and land them somewhere
Ok but did he remember to mention how audacious the audacity was?
I think he said it was completely and utterly audacious of them to have the audacity. But I could be wrong.
It did feel very AI generated.
It was the audacity of this audacious act of audaciousness that the Swedes so audaciously performed.
Only about 50 times.
It reminds me of when in my youth NASA spent millions to develop a pen which could write in zero gravity while the Russians just used a pencil. Sometimes you have to just Keep It Simple Stupid. pencil
AiP subs are way more silent then nuclear powered subs. Nuclear powered subs needs to run it's cooling loop while a diesel powered on can go on batteries, the positive thing whit nuclear powered subs is that they can stay out in sea alone for months while a diesel powered on needs to refuel.
Obviously the US, UK etc. produce the best blue-water submarines in the world. But for the specific and unique conditions of the Baltic the Swedish submarines are definitely unmatched.
true on the blue waters Swedish subs suck balls as they are not deep diving not long ranged and with limited offensive ability.
I think the new, larger A26 (Blekinge class) is supposed to fix that capability shortage.
@@SonsOfLorgar This very much depends on what critera one percives to be the most important one. Range , top speed , endurance , or perhaps being silent ?
I'd argue being silent is more important than everything else no matter the ocean , sure our submarines will not reach China and due to the slow speed (compared to nuclear) it takes roughly 20 days to reach US east coast but calling that "sucks balls" is stretching it.
A26 will fix deployment of frogmen , but after that they want smaller submarines with focus on firepower
The Stirling Engine - and a propeller - that are stealthy as hell- don’t know how, and our new sub -launched 2025 is even more stealthy and powerful. (the Blekinge class).
I will check this sub out for sure and yes I was very surprised at the technology especially once I heard it was a diesel propeller sub
@@CombatReadyHQ Subbrief has a great Video Compilation on both The Gotland and the excercise in USA.
he also has some good information on the diffrence between the large Submarine States (USA, GB, RU and SWE)
Also the Project A26 aka Blekinge - Class is likely not going to be finished Before 2028.
The reason is that they have changed parts of the design in order to rectify some flaws.
There was also that little issue with the Wuhan related Virus.
her Keel is laid though
Best regards.
Lets hope this can be finished before that...looks like we may need them.@@danielkarlsson9326
2:50 US Navy wanted to go and have look around inside our sub but the commander of the sub said IF you ¨sink¨us then i would allow you onboard 🙂
Well, they did go on to lease the sub from us in Sweden for months after these exercises, to try come up with something to counter it.
@@jimmiekarlsson4458 and was unable to do it 😂
@@SonsOfLorgar Pretty much how it went yes 😂
I got to see a shot of where I live :) The main Swedish naval base of Karlskrona. @ 11:49 in the video :) Been on a few of these Gotland-class subs aswell got a ride once :) An old friend of mine has a dad which is/was one of the captains, stationed here in Karlskrona, sent to the US for training during the 2000s.
Can't say you were incorrect by anything, only correct in your assumptions as you later got to know from the video you watched. Keep up the good work :)
Fun fact: A26 (Blekinge class) is currently being built around 500 meters away from where I sleep 😎
Nuclear subs are noisier then diesel subs. A nuclear reactor needs water to cool the reactor, turn to steam and the steam drives a generator before the steam cools to water and it all repeats. A secondary watersystem cools the first one. That is a lot of moving water, and parts, that produce noise, and you need that system to regulate the reactor and gain power, so you can't remove that noise.
Diesel subs use electric engines under water. It is silent, save turning the propeller.
And a sterling engine doesn't use explosions, but heat differences to move its pistons, which makes it a lot quieter.
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11:10 So you know it is Sweden , Germany and Poland that have subs in the Baltic sea within NATO.
I don't think that Norway operates in the Baltic sea they are occupied by the Norwegian sea , Barents sea and the north sea .
Poland have no submarines. In the baltic sea it kind only Sweden, Germany and Russia that have submarines in the baltic sea. Nether Denmark or Finland have submarines. And Sweden have 4 submarines in the baltic sea
@@TheSwedishSoldier ORP Orzeł is the only Polish submarine, and new ones won't reach the Polish fleet before the end of this decade. The resuscitated Orka program features the world's leading submarine manufacturers, expanded by new players from the Republic of Korea (Hanwha Ocean and Hyundai Heavy Industries)
This info is from march 2024 .
I mean the have a very old one kilo class sub just to uphold the knowledge within their navy . Now they spend a lot of money on their Air Force , Army and Navy that's includes more and newer subs .
Nice name you have by the way 🙂👍
@@TheSwedishSoldier as far as I know Russia has only one sub in the Baltic sea
@@mrbrand4720 Thanks! as a trained ranger soldier, I wanted a suitable name and this was it :) . i knew about the kilo sub, but thought i didn't include it as it is not in active service. But it will be very interesting to see what happens now. But keep in mind that Poland has requested a quote for 2 Swedish submarines HMS Södermanland and HMS Östergötland. Which in such cases will give the Polish fleet a proper boost and make it very difficult for Russia to control Kaliningrad
@@holmavik6756 and I bet that moskovite sub has a constant silent shadow as soon as it leaves port for international waters within the Baltic...
About magnetic anomaly detectors, that is one of the reason the Swedish subs are so hard to find as they don't show up on that.
They went in and out without anyone knowing they were there!
It hadn't matter which country it had been!
When the sub called in the sinking of the us ship the us said nah, you aren't even close, cus they couldn't find the sub. in the end they submerged right in the cluster of us ships to prove they really were there.
They Americans leased the submarine for 1 year, for more combat training - I have zero intel of that year but I’ll guess both countries learned a lot. (They leased the submarine and crew off course).
That’s great way to learn and develop, very good for the Americans and swedes to do
They initially leased it for one year, then extended the lease for another.. This was almost 20 years ago now.. But yes, Sweden has really good subs & crews manning them, and apparently have a bit of a reputation in NATO naval circles..
7:39 On that point i can promise you US Navy have a lot of training on exactly that .
Just remember this was in 2004 though some videos are of the new HSMS Blekinge which being built as I type this which is the next generation.
That narrator though. Dial back on the drama, dude!
Straight from ChatGPT lmao
The Gotland isnt a pure diesel as is repeated here, but rather a diesel-electric, so essentially battery powered for silent running. I think there was even talk about using hydrogen fuel cells in it during its construction. At the time of the submarine hunt exercise the R.Reagan was U.S.A' s newest super carrier and had just been put into commission. After the exercise the entire strike group was deployed to the middle east.
They forgot to mention they never found the Gotland during that excerise, untill it went to the surface and said hi xD
The cost of a Swedish submarine is not a fraction of a fighter.
AI voice and probably AI generated text. Had all the trademarks. So....
Perhaps the fraction is 7/5.
I asked chatgpt to calculate it.
1 HMS gotland, adjusted for inflation is $421million US.
For that you can get 6.02 F18
2.81 F22
or
12.04 F16s.
I would assume the statement should be: "a fraction of what the fighter jets stationed on ronald reagan costs"
@@mrborgeusborg1541 But now you are only talking about production costs of the fighter itself while the cost for the submarine is the total costs that also include research, development, tools, weapons etc. If you include everything then F22 comes pretty close actually.
@@znail4675 Good point. I just used chatgpt to get some calculations.
I read an interview with a Swedish navy officer where he told this. Every now and then Russian navy ships threaten to cross the border into Sweden but several times a Swedish submarine has popped up in from of the and said "Hi, we're here". That always makes the Russian ships turn around and go home.
The subs are electric diesels 😎 Salutes from Stockholm.
Subs in the Baltic right near Kaliningrad the only Russian port ice-free in winter
hms gotland can stay submerged for at least 3 weeks and they use a stirling engine when submerged
I get the gist of the saying but "a diesel sub costing a fraction of one of the fighter planes aboard the carrier" is simply wrong.
its diesel/Stirling propelled... in other words the sterling engine is for "stealth mode"... its practically completely silent
have been involved in building the oxygen tank for the submarines, remember that the manhole I welded was about 50 mm thick 😅😅
We had our sub´s for a looong time, and as soon we join NATO every is stunned over stuff we had for 30-40 years 🤣
Kockum kicks ass.
The One on one, on "diesel submarines":, what it means and should correctly be referred to as "diesel-electric submarine". This type of submarine only use it's onboard diesel engines, at the surface, so they only use the onboard diesel engines partly, and it's normal not a direct drive!, so the diesel power-plant is driving generators only, that both charge the huge batteries package, and on the surface also give power to propulsion, but underwater operations the submarine runs total silent on batteries alone and that powers a very efficient electro-motors package that is directly attach to the propellers (as on nuclear submarines too!, they just get their electric from a steam driven generator instead, -that get is its steam pressure from nuclear generator). The Swedish Navy have since the 70s use a "Scotch innovation" know as a "Sterling engine" to charge the batteries when needed underwater. The Swedish Submarine fleet is get updated, and a hole new next generation of Blekinge-class submarine is coming in service now, with a lot of improvements. The Blekinge-class had an "early life" as a common project between Sweden, Norway and Denmark, first planned at the beginning of the 1990s, the project was called "U-båt 2000 or the Viking class, but the Danish Navy discontinued their submarine service in 2004, a political choice, not the Navy's!, and do they regret that now!. Norway lost interest in spending money in developing a hole new next generation submarine, so Sweden became alone, but as the project got slow down it not die, so Sweden/Kockums(SAAB) just slowly continued working on the project, they Kockum's got new German owners, ThyssenKrupp, but ThyssenKrupp, started to steal pattents/intellectual properties from Kockum's so the and the Swedish government got involved and got ThyssenKrupp group "kick out" of the ownership. Damen Shipyards Group, (the Dutch defence, shipbuilding, and engineering conglomerate company based in Gorinchem, Netherlands), became a new partner what secured the Blekinge-class submarines. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
They hired the most bombastic audacious writer for this video! Sounds like it was written by a 10 year old looking for complicated words in a dictionary.
This is probably on of the worst intros of the Swedish subs.
Nato doesn’t have anything like it, these are subs made for archipelagos. They can be submerged for a month but still small to get into harbors undetected, lurking and collecting data and get out without anyone knew they were there.
The nuclear subs are big things built to cruise the vast oceans. Different things.
The successor of Gotland which is more than 20 years old now can do a whole lot more than sinking ships. Search for A26. Very interesting is the small heat signature which is very hard to remove from a nuclear sub. And the interoperability with Gripen fighters and Global Eye reconnaissance for a single strategic board.
It's a Stirlingmotor, that,s why.
The submarines don't use traditional combustion engines like we'd see in cars, but rather a form of a stirling engine, which are a lot more quiet.
1:47 2 diesel-el MTU 396 and 2 Kockums v4-275R Stirling AIP Mk3
I remember this, they had to refit the sub. as the salinity of the Pacific isn't anywhere near that of the Baltic Sea. The Commander of the sub at the time was a woman. (shouldn't matter, but she was). The Swedish Navy in return learned lots. And yes, Sterling engines. And also some of the best torpedo and target acquisitioning systems on the planet. In today's money they go for about £100-150M a piece.(out of the factory, no fancy mil-tech installed)
Considering that a Swedish man put propellers on American ships, designed and built Monitor and with Swedish Seaman beat the South in the civil war. We Swedes have been designing weapons since the 1600. Regarding Submarines, I think that the best Subs are built in Germany, Japan and Sweden.
Yes we are a very good at subs in the Baltic sea .
6:00 look at the first month in Ukraine then Ukraine with more or less nothing held back the Russian invasion. it had nothing to with tech and gear then, only bravery, common sense and smart people! And Teamwork!
”A submarie from Sweden sunk an American aircraft carrier” (during an exercise). The stealth properties of those subs are well known, but what I don’t get is how their relatively small torpedoes can sink a US aircraft carrier, which are almost unsinkable
They can not since as you said they are small and lack explosive power, same with the original claim as the US always goes into wargames with massive handicaps to not just stomp over everything. so no a small slow and short ranged coastal sub from a country smaller then a city did not sink a carrier.
@@Svenne-man-1880wrong. Each torpedo has a ~600kg warhead. They are also designed to pinpoint and strike from below the targets keel, creating a dual effect as the detonation shockwave first pushes the ship and water out from the detonation,forming a vacuum bubble, and then, when the energy is spent, the bubble implodes, pulling both water and ship back into that void, commonly breaking the keel of the ship with the ships own unsupported mass.
It sank the carrier over and over again, it was not not just once, while remaining undetected.
Impressive.
I thought that video was a vit audacious to be honest. And it’s left me stunned! The audacity of leaving me stunned goes to show that you should never underestimate TH-cam videos.
Swedens subs can run on USR (Ultra Silent Routine) when I think they don’t have any sound at all.
The americans leased the hms gotland and a crew for some time after this exercise.
You would be an idiot to belive thay don't have a cauntermessure that is not known to the public.
That said, it still hapned and its an now outdated swedish sub.
As a Swede, I have no problem with my country being underestimated. But I'll tell you this, we are not by any means what you would call an underdog.
we have a small but VERY capable defense force.... and equipment of the highest quality
Shockingly bad knowledge of Norway. First it is not a Baltic sea nation. Second they've been a Nato country since its inception. Ffs, even Natos general secretary is a Norwegian.
I'm a Swede. Born in Finland.
That was Sweden underneath the surface. Now please go and check out what we have got on the surface. The Visby-class corvette.
I keep laughing at the bombastic language ... "audacity of this audacious display" :-D
Must be Sweden-week :) Cheers!
Yes mate, always love doing videos on Swedish military! Great community and very interesting to watch and learn about
I am from sweden ❤🫡🇸🇪
I believe the swedes invented the X rudder on submarines.
he's on a journey to repeat words, which awes him I guess.. ._.
The writing was quite sensationalistic, many many big words lol.
The submarine game is all about silence. Everybody is geting better over time, but Russia is at least a decade behind the US, and China two.
When Swedish submarine goes ultra quiet there wont even be a black hole to look for
What is HSMS? I thought it's HMS (Hans Majestäts Skepp).
I guess from the voice that it's AI created (sorry to people who have a deep and monotone speech), but why the extra S? It's HMS, not HSMS, Hans/Hennes Majestäts Skepp, very similar to Britain
it's diesel electric, sterling engine.
Best budget probably, but not at all the best engineers.
Little tiny Sweden made a tiny thing that can beat the biggest boats on the sea... Their Ego has to have taken a big hit.
The engines air and diesel can run upside down aswell
0:58 War games with the USA Navy
That was a pretty horrible video. They really failed to explain why Gotland is such a good submarine. The main pro is that the can run on diesel underwater instead of electrics. The diesel engine is also one of a kind that can be run almost completely silent underwater for weeks, normal diesels need to run on electrics while submerged for at most a couple of days. The rubber covering makes it almost invisible to sonar. Its main drawback is range, it's made for and excels in the baltic sea but on the big oceans range it's not good enough. The US thought about buying some but they realized they had no use for such a short range sub when their prospective enemies are so far away and also spread out.
A Swedish sub never sunk any US carriers what happened was that the Gotland was allowed by the US navy to sink a carrier as that would allow the US navy to learn how to better defend against small, slow and coastal submarines.
Submarines of the Norwegian navy, from the 80's did the same and "sunk" US aircraft carriers in exsercises. Nothing special that.
Liquid Oxygen though , scary scary stuff !
And the RAF bombed New York 2 years in a row. And then American stopped the exercises.
I think USA should grab about 20 or 30 of these subs for coastal defence of the united states
2024 - and we now got next genertion of tht sub- - say hello to Visby mark II The Baltic king
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Hmm. Have this been verified by any independent source? I sniff a TH-cam myth in the making. Not to say that the Swedes make some nice stuff.
Sweden is the king of the Baltic sea
It was an exicise... The Gotland...
Kom an då, Ryssjävel
I'm allowed to thumb 👍 so i give you one here!
rubber bushings m8!
I can see why you question our navy since you have been world dominant for long. But thats over, Swedens technologi have surpassed UKs so be happy we are in NATO.
This script is so repetitive it has to be AI generated for the purpose of making the video as long as possible. This is how an SEO article would be written.
is not diesel sub
After the gotland submarine took down the US ship, they borrowed one to study and how to defend against it
I’m not surprised what have been stupid of them if they didn’t
Interesting topic. Work harder.
Its ghost subs!
Why don’t you do some research before you post your opinion?
That AI video is really stupid....Our subs are great though
Hangarfartyget sänktes i atlantkusten till usa. Do your home work!
Man that channel is pretty horrible. 1/10. There are way better and more accurate videos on Swedish submarines.
This video that you are reacting to is so badly done, he's repeating way too much. make me mad xD
US and UK subs cant entre the Swedish ground waters ...so why you even try to ..... Russians tried once and failed
BULLSHIT !