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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2024
- The redesigned #Stans #ARCH MK3 rims and #Hope Pro 4 hubs used in a new set of wheels using DT Swiss spokes.
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⌚ Timeline
0:00 Intro
0:27 DT Swiss SPLINE M1900 Details
0:52 Rotor Compatibility
1:25 Rims
2:04 Info provided
2:40 DT 370 Freehubs, Upgrades
3:21 Weight
4:03 Tires used, installed
5:14 Conclusions, recommended!
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Currently building some stans flow m3 wheels with pro 4 hubs, cant wait !
Cannot beat Hope. Still rocking my Pro 2 Evo’s and never had a single issue with them.
On your Pro 4 XD hub, make sure you remove the drive side end cap before you install the cassette so the tool will engage the cassette correctly.... It's buried on Hope's web site. I have P4s myself with Race Face 27s because I run 29x2.3s and like you, I am not a wider-is-bestest guy..... right rim for the tire. Another great review!
Hope are excellent quality and you can just get any parts for them. My 26er wheels are just about coming to need a bearings change in rear so I’ll be fitting some quality SKF or INA bearings. will certainly be getting some for my next bike.
That's a solid set. Would love to see a follow up review on how they ride. As for myself, I just bought a set of 24 id carbon wheels from Light Bicycle. Came to 1450g with DT240s so I'm pretty stoked for this season.
4:35
I’m currently finishing my first ever and SUPER BUDGET dh build. I’ve spent 1300-1400ish CAD and all I need now is a shock pump, brake post adapters and a chain. And yes everything on it is new (except for fork (complete rebuild tho and a barely used frame)
You will love those rims.. I had a set built up with DT350 and same dt comp spokes and also brass nipples. They have performed very well. For the riding I do I enjoy the quiet and the engagement is fine for my less technical trails. But as for the rims..love them ! btw, using Maxxis 29'er 2.3 tires. Profile is nice.
Built the exact same wheels a couple of weeks ago for a new trail bike I'm building.
Awesome wheels! I'm running Hope pro 4s on my Ibis 938 29r rims and love them. Too bad I weighed them down with 2.5 DHF DH casing tires. XD
You will love the Stan's wheels. I have the older Arch wheels on my xc hardtail and really dig them. On my Tallboy I have the Santa Cruz Reserve 25's and love them. Fast rolling with 2.35 Ardent Race tires, stiff yet compliant and a lifetime warranty. I believe Stan's recently came out with a carbon Crest and Arch?
Literally building the exact set up wheels(same hubs rims spokes) for my YT Jeffsy, riding East Coast Canada and hopefully will be a reliable relatively light setup.
LoveMTB, do you have the tutorial assembly of the wheelset?
Easton heist 24, they've been great.
At this time, it's major cleaning and overhaul time for the bikes. The suspensions and forks have been tunned up by the local S4 Suspension (Montreal, Canada) and I transferred my drive train to my wife's bike (a Rocky Mountain Growler). Next after putting the bikes back together I will be putting on GX Eagle drivetrains on my son’s bike and mine. We each have a RM Altitude, mine is 2013 and my son’s is a 2016. I am also looking to find a junior bike for my daughter who is 10 to replace her Trek that is very heavy. So quite busy bike winter...
I don't know of Vorsprung, but the service I had at S4 was exceptional. Cheers!
Hi there. First of all thanks for your videos. Based on this one and what I need and my budget I have chosen the same setup. Still waiting on my wheels to be build, but I was curious if you still own and use these wheels and I want to know how do they hold up. I went with Arch rims, because I don't think I would like to ride with a tire larger than 2.50. We all try to build lighter bikes, so I doesn't make sense to me to use more rubber and bigger tires. Thx!
Are the Arches and Hopes easy to work on? IE replacing/retightening spokes etc
Hi , I enjoy your videos , thanks for that experiences. I have a question , which hub would you choose and why (for rear wheel) ? Hope Pro 4 or 101 of 9i.
I ride XC and XCM , and I would like your opinion.
respects , from Chile.
How’s your arch rims now? My rear crest mk3 has cracks on the nipple holes. I use a hardtail. I decided to order the arch thinking that wider rims are tougher?
Hi LoveMTB,I bought the same wheelset,only that the rims are Hope enduro,with Hope pro 4 hubs and matching XD driver hub,and they certainly are great value for money,and I like the loud XD driver hub.people know that your behind them,especially as I ride most of the time through suburbia with highways,or busy roads beside the routes I normally ride.
The only disappointment was only cosmetic,and that is why,in my opinion Chain reaction and the like have good sales,my hubs were ordered in silver,black spokes,black rims,as my hardtail is matt black frame,so my rear hub was unfortunately dull silver compared to my front hub,that was quite bright,I tried to polish the rear hub to match the front,but as I found out in the manufacturing and anodizing makes it impossible to polish,unless you actually sand back the hub,and I wasn't going to do that.But highly recommend the wheelset combo.
LoveMTB,thanks,Cheers
Hi there did you ever review the hope hubs?
Build a set of these, 27.5", 18 months ago with sapim spokes and novatec hubs. They came in at ~1800g for the set at a price ~300 euros.
Ran them with 2.6" Schwalbe Nobby Nic and Rocket Ron for about a year then changed the RR 2.6" in the back for something more burly, a Hans Dampf 2.35" twin skin.
The wheels are very good value, very light for trail use/light enduro and are still true to this day.
I was worried that they would be too narrow for the 2.6" tires but I didn't find them to be, maybe cuz I don't ride too aggressive :)
You're very welcome!
The novatec hubs are a mixed bag, the front one D811SB is good, as you would expect (not many things can go wrong with front hubs) but the rear one, D792SB has only 3 pawls that results in poor engagement. I think I'm using them outside their comfort zone which is xc/light trail but they're pretty easy and cheap to service, just buy the bearings and replace them. But at least they are light (unintended side effect of my xc background:)).
I'm looking forward to your reviews on the Stans wheels and the novatec hubs! Love your work btw!
Thats encouraging that you've used 2.6's on the archs with no issues. I've been thinking about trying a set of Maxxis Forcasters in 2.6 once my 2.4 Onzas wear out.
I didn't do my homework prior building the wheels and I found out later on that for 2.6" tires the recommended rim width is 29-30mm so I was stuck with it.
Below is a picture on how the 2.6" tires look on the wheels. I can't really tell if they're baloonish or not.
instagram.com/p/BVO1g3MDQ08/?taken-by=iasi.xc
Correction: the rear novatec hub D792SB has 4 pawls but still poor engagement and yes, the seals are not up to winter riding and washing regularly as I just looked and two of the four bearings have stickiness to them after only 671km :(
Those are the exact wheels I want where did you find that combo?
Hi, i am trying to build the same 29 inch wheelset , how long the spokes need to be in mm ?, wich You choose Champions, competition, or aerolite ? Thks Sr.
Hey brother do you remember the length of the spokes thanks
what this setup it is for? racing? training? just to enjoy riding? trail, enduro, xc? ;)
thought they would have arrived with rim tape already installed
Had Hope xc wheels with pro4 hubs on my Giant Anthem. Pro4's are not even close to Pro2 hubs by meaning of durability. I have changed few times a ball bearing in freehub (Shimano setup, not Sram) as it got rusted and totaly destroyed. The skweeky sound will tell you when its time for replacing that bearing. Now on my new XTC i have Stans Arch rims with dt swiss 350 boost hubs and Competition spokes. These combo works for me really well. No problem what so ewer for almost a year now. I am little bit less than 90 kg weight. Really could recomend DT350 and Stans Arch. I run on Maxxis forekaster tyres. Regards from Croatia.
LoveMTB I had that setup more than a year with riding conditions were from dry and hot 30+ degrees to cold, muddy and snowy. I ride mostly xc but had some enduro experience as well. I do not presure wash my bikes, garden hose only and i really take care of my two wheelers, more than i should :)
Update. Stans Arch cracked :(
Rear wheel on drive side around the spokes cracked. Waranty was no issue but now i do not have confidence in theese rims any more. I bought DT Swiss Spline M1700 wheelset with 25 mm inner with. So far so good. Keep your eyes on those Arches....
Have been thinking whether I should get this exact same wheelset for my 2018 YT Jeffsy. Current wheelset isn't the lightest one and the hub engagement could be better. Would this wheelset be good enough if it cost just under 500e and it would replace current Dt Swiss M1900 30. Manufacturer claims that they weight around 2000g and hub has 18 points of engagement. So hope's around 8 degree engagement should be pretty noticeable, I think.
One problem though. I'm not sure if I can remove e*thirteen casette without some propriotary tools cause bike came none of them included. So can that casette be uninstalled and then again installed without e*thirteen's propriotary tools or should I try to get one?
LoveMTB I'm looking for a bit lighter wheelset with better hub engagement. Had M1800 wheelset in my previous bike. Nothing bad to say about them but 20° hub engagement was a bit too much in some situations. May give them a chance though. Bike just feels a bit more lively with lighter wheelset I think and M1900 30 isn't the lightest one available out there.
I'm pretty lightweight (about 150 lbs) and I do mostly trail/xc riding with small amount of enduro but I don't do any large jumps or massive drops.
Just watched them again. I think I need to get that lockring tool.
Great video! I'm thinking to build it with I9 hubs. Can you give us some feedback after all this time? Any issues? Thanks
Thanks 🤘
I’m on the market for new wheelset now (around 1k budget), what make you choose that set up and how about the cost wise? Any idea about i9 245 trail wheelset which is on sale now, thanks.
I had a set of I9 Enduro S and found them to be very high maintenance. The rear hub would creak and click after 150-200 miles, requiring me to remove and regrease it, only for it to return again..... I sold them after 9 months. My hope Pro 4s have been bullet proof, and I'm 225lbs all geared up.... only hubs I'll buy based on my 1st hand experience. My custom wheelset was built by Colorado Cyclist and I got Pro 4s, black DT Comp spokes, DT Brass nipples and Race Face ARC 27s taped with a Stan's valve installed for $587 shipped to my door..... I will only buy from them from now on.
what is your opinion of running a slightly bigger tire on these than recommended? such as 2.75?
I'm running surly dirt wizards on this same rim as a 26+ hardtail build. it was about as wide of a rim I could get for clearance on the frame i was using.
Is tehe original those?
This is the exactly wheelset (except i want 27.5) that i want to build for my transition scout.
Same here dude, expecting them early March!!!
Hello sir, I just wanted to ask about spokes size for this rim ? i have a hope pro 4 straight pull hubs and these rim . 284mm spokes is it ok ? thanks. Im building 27.5 wheels
@@LoveMTB hi thank you so much ! what is CRC?
I got the same wheelset, what good quality spokes would you recommend me? Thanks your channel is 👍
@@LoveMTB great thanks sir!do you build your own wheels?
@@LoveMTB was that a 27.5 rim you have? U know roughly the length of the spokes I would need?
What I do not like about Stans BST is that it is not compatible with a WTB TCS and a few Spez tires. Yes there are other options but I love Vigilantes.
I have Stans Crest and using WTB Ranger tires tubeless without any problems
mk3 rims dont work with specialized tyres ?
Would the MK3 be sufficient for bikepacking? Thanks
@@LoveMTB MK3 Arch with Vittoria Mezcal 2.1
SON hub in front Hope Pro in rear
How about the DT Swiss Hubs and wheelsets? :D
Also, does anybody "believe" in carbon rims? :D
Did it cracked on you?
@@LoveMTB awesome! Cuz planning to get them. Though, read a ton of comments that they crack easily.
Send me those spare rims bruh ^^
mk3 could be a really great rims if they didn't start cracking arround nippless in a year for everyone :( I wish they fix it for mk4
@@LoveMTB Can't be for everyone, and just about everyone i know had them cracked sooner or later (both crest and arch). Mine are still ok though, but they're fresh and i ride FS and not as much or as hard as other guys. Could be early batch? But i seen lots of posts on the net so i guess it's not in minority. Guess i'll have to see - it's hard to sell them anyway. Otherwise happy with them!
@@LoveMTB And here i go - my rear rim just developed 2 cracks around nipples - one large one and one smaller, as expected unfortunately. But at least they lasted me 2+ full seasons though i don't ride too much (under 3k/year). I hope yourse are covered by a long warranty!