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This starts as ✨fun lore✨ and ends four hours later with Jesse having an existential crisis while delivering an introduction to epistemology via the sims
jesse saying she doesn’t like Shakespeare because she doesn’t think she understands it, then beautifully summarizing the tragedy and idiocracy of the generational feud between the montagues and the capulets killed me
@@jadebayoba7073 Omg that just makes me want to put Bella in Diana's iconic black dress & jewels (and as The Mother Goth she would look amazing in it)
Bella died of old age :3 she got transported back in time. The most obvious evidence of this is reading the books she writes books addressed for her kids. You can find her grave i think too
He probably actually was being neglected but my personal headcanon was that he wasn’t being neglected at all and just like sometimes in real life, social services was corrupt and called in by people like Circe so they could get to Nervous themselves
@@marythecontrarian thats always been my theory too! :D i feel like olive has to love grim/death so much that she had to have adored nervous and obviously she was willing to do anything to keep grim with her i dont think she would just give up nervous for no good reason. i think circe and loki found out about nervous's dad and pulled some strings so they could do experiments and tests on him.
@@marythecontrarian im not sure, given that ophelia grew up badly while with olive and doesn't have a good relationship with her I feel like she isn't a good caregiver. she's too obsessed with death to pay attention to anything else
One of my favourite details about Olive Spectre's house is a) the amount of service outfits (maid, pizza delivery guy etc) in the closet and b) when you play on the lot & order a delivery, they won't come inside! They just leave your groceries on the footpath
About the living in a simulation part, if you send your Sims to university in the Sims 2 and have them study philosophy, in their senior semester they will take a class called "Who Controls the Pie Menu and Why?"!
There’s so much philosophy about how we can’t actually know we don’t live in a simulation. They’re not saying we do, they’re just saying we can’t know we don’t.
I loved all the names of the classes in the uni expansion pack, they were so fun! I just googled them and read through all of them and cackled all the time. I love how they make fun of everythiiiing hahahaha
The social bunny and Frank from Donnie Darko are actually both references the same thing: Harvey - a 1944 play based around a man named Elwood whose best friend is a 6'3" anthropomorphic rabbit that only he can see and hear. The story essentially revolves around his family and psychiatrist's discussions as to whether or not to commit Elwood to a sanatorium (and a comedy of errors scenario ensues).
Thanks for that info! This explains why Edna has a bunny called Harvey (it's a video game from a German developer, unsure if it's known elsewhere and if it has an English title, the German title means Edna breaks out)... really good info!
I think im autistic and I I’ve been very fixated on the sims recently (currently giving a makeover to all of the sims in the sims 3 Strangetown world that I downloaded) so this video was perfect for me.
My oldest daughter was recently diagnosed and I love hearing her talk about her special interests. 🥰 I love learning about special interests from others as well. Sims is definitely one of mine! ❤
Ive just realized- I have ADHD and struggle A LOT with executive dysfunction. A great analogy would be that I feel like a sim with low autonomy that my simmer has forgotten about. I sit around waving at the camera saying my environment is too dirty, but theres no one there to initiate the task.
i'm autistic (suspected AuDHD) & that's so relatable 💀 to me it also feels like i'm a sim, with full autonomy, that my simmer clicks off for 2 seconds, that cancels all the micromanaged tasks lined up in the task bar to care for themselves & instead goes to play the violin or something 😭
I love these ultra long essay type videos, it's like chilling at a friend's house and happily letting them cut loose and run wild with rants and info dumping about a special interest we both share. the only thing missing is the ability to fuel the fire by asking genuine questions or offer theories in real time lol
The magic outlawing thing is very interesting. So basically, in the Sims 1 all magic is contained into a single neighbourhood, you do not get magic anywhere else. In the Sims 2, there are no open magic places, all supernatural life forms exist as eastereggs, or secrets that are not advertised and you have to run into them as you play. In the Sims 3 however, magical creatures, witches etc live among society and are plentiful everywhere. This is where the Magic Ban theory came from. Basically, the theory is that at some point between the Sims 3 and the Sims 1, magic creatures all started getting pushed into ghettos, then being fully outlawed and sent into hiding in the time between the Sims 1 and the Sims 2. Then the few witches and vampires that still exist are almost like rebels. There is not much else to this theory, as there's no strict lore text around this, but it is a way of explaining why occults are so plentiful in the Sims 3, but basically disappear by the time of the Sims 2.
Plus the Sims 4 (while mostly never helpful to the lore) does suggest infighting between the magical groups, perhaps that all occurred while pushed away in the previous games?
@@heath6802 ooo what if that relates to why TS4 is an alternate timeline?! Like maybe something about the infighting or Occult vs. Human rebellion led to a timeline split. In TS2 they lost the war, but in TS4 they live freely.
And today I learned that at 27 years old the Burglar sound still causes me insane levels of anxiety even tho I'm not actively playing the game... (Edit: Glad to know I'm not the only one with deep rooted trauma regarding this lmao)
OK so on the magic ban: the basic argument is that at the point of the Sims 3, magic is everywhere with no legal restrictions: you can magic anyplace anytime with no restrictions. When we get to the Sims 1, suddenly there's laws against magicking in public that were not in place at that time, but those laws are lifted by the time Sims 2 rolls around. Similarly, there are themes of bigotry against paranormal Sims in TS2 (particularly on the part of the Grunts vs. the Smiths and against the Calientes who are IMMEDIATELY suspected once something happens to Bella), which may indicate that the anti-supernatural attitude that produced the anti-magic laws is still prevalent.
It's basically a non-controversiial racism allegory. The baseline plot of the military career in the games (both basegame and console spinoffs) alludes to fighting aliens. The Grunt vs Smiths thing is basiically a "these damn illegal ALIENS" joke
@@Supergirl9909 I would swear it's a Tumblr post but given how terrible the Tumblr search function is I can't find it for the life of me. If it's in a video my first guess is Izzzyzzz, but tbf I haven't watched those vids in a while so I could be totally wrong.
i remember illegally printing money and being so scared of getting caught, and also the robot invasiom terrified me so i would just leave the area every time i found then hahaha
TH-camrs are always so exhausted and tried by their own topic in similar videos, it's so nice hearing how excited you are over each category and dreading coming to end. I love how passionate you are over this, and I would take another 4 hours video about the sims any day from you
After hearing you talk about it, I am BEGGING you to do a playthough of sims 2 DS pleaseee that game is so unhinged and I would die happy if you covered it
3:21:31 OMG!!! I am the author of "More To Life. An Olive Specter Story"! I had the hardest time deciding whether I should share my writing with the world, so seeing my work mentioned in your video means so, so much to me! The Knut Futa chapter hasn't been posted yet, but I will be updating the story soon. 😊
the FEAR that sims 2 for DS struck in my heart.... oh my god. I was so guilty of time travelling in the game bc i was impatient and sometimes the game would be able to tell and be like what did you do!!! you messed with the timeline!!! and aliens would be EVERYWHERE and the MUSIC. and they would GET YOU. it was my first experience of existential dread, i was like 9 crying about causing a fake alien invasion my god. i had to mute it and cover my screen to get through it. but wow i want to play it again now. the alien autopsies, finding gold omg so many memories
This game traumatised me I swear. Even playing it as an adult it’s got such a terrifying atmosphere. The music, the vibes… you’re constantly on edge playing it. Definitely not suitable for kids lol.😅
Even if Sims 4 being an alternate timeline was a cop out, I hope they get back on track with Sims 5 and make it explain Sims 4 in the context of the other timelines. Maybe Sims 5 can be a prequel of Sims 4 where Alexander and Don are made responsible for the alternate universe.
Timestamps for my favorite girlies💕 SECTION ONE - 01:23 Abduction of Bella Goth - 01:27 Olive Specter is a serial killer - 12:08 Don’s affairs - 16:55 The drowning of Skip Broke - 20:50 SECTION 2 - 27:02 Bella appears in Strangetown- 27:11 Who is Nervous Subject? - 33:40 Sims timeline - 36:10 Who was Lolita Goth? - 43:33 StrangerVille - 48:57 SECTION 3 - 53:05 Feuding Monty and Capp families - 54:23 The ghosts of Von Haunt Estate - 57:18 Nervous Subject is Death’s son - 01:03:26 Sims eye contact with player - 01:07:42 Bella Goths burial on Lunar Lakes - 01:09:29 The Remmington family dies prematurely at their estate - 01:14:50 SECTION 4 - 01:19:40 Donnie Darko and the social bunny - 01:20:13 Olive kills to see her love Grimm - 01:26:14 Government hunt for the Tragic Clown - 01:31:33 Strangely placed graves found in Twinbrook - 01:35:07 The deaths of Cordelia and Caliban Capp - 01:44:56 Magic is criminalized in the Sims 2 timeline - 01:51:20 SECTION 5 - 01:58:18 Alexander Goth writes “Murder in Pleasantview” about Bella’s disappearance 50 years before his own birth - 01:58:47 Sunny the Tragic Clown - 02:03:43 The Tricou family haunts the house of fallen trees - 02:07:01 Opal Suarley - 02:14:07 Downloadable murder method - 02:17:41 Lyla Grunt’s death goes unnoticed by her own family - 02:20:20 Eerie prank calls in Sims 1 - 02:29:12 SECTION 6 - 02:31:42 Accidental incest - 02:31:53 No happy ending - 02:36:53 The dark past of the Doe family and the unidentified corpses - 02:43:00 Doctor Dominic is aware of the plumbob- 02:52:42 The Haunted Doll Virus - 02:56:25 SECTION 7 - 03:00:37 Circe’s affair and hypnotism - 03:00:50 Kidnapped - 03:05:03 Unusually creepy atmosphere and themes for Sims 2 DS - 03:08:57 Knut Futa sets a record in corruption - 03:17:45 Glitchy ghost children - 03:24:33 SECTION 8 - 03:28:51 We are all Sims - 03:29:09 OMGWTFBBQ! - 03:37:58 Sims are alive and sentient - 03:43:19 The Sims 4 bad on purpose because it’s a social experiment - 03:49:46 Doctor Dominic starts his own cult, the Kine society, to try and summon a demon cow god - 03:58:33 Mortimer killed Bella - 04:03:31
jesse as a fellow autistic with a sims special interest I LOVE YOU SO MUCH BABES YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!! i’ve been so hyped for this video and i’m so excited to watch!!
I love Iceberg videos, and one common theme i've noticed is that people stop really editing or lose interest as the video goes on because of how tedious icebergs are but this was definitely not the case with you. I loved every minute of this and it really shows just how much care and effort you put into it.
I'm laughing my ass off. This video does NOT feel like it's four hours long. Can't believe I haven't come across this channel earlier, it's exactly my brand of humor.
Jesse I'm so sorry but you mention a few times Olive "giving up" Nervous but she didn't, she's got a memory of having a child taken away. she neglected him until the social services got involved
I thought the Jane Doe story could be like a Stepford Wives situation, so rather than Jane being a murderer, John has had Jane replaced with a robot-like clone wife (or altered her brain to be more subservient). Maybe she turned out a bit “off” so Joe has to help out a lot… Thank you for this video Jesse - I’m LIVING!! ❤
1:32:41 Fbejebfjfbf- OKAY SO: cult survivor here! A common tactic for cults is to break your self esteem down and make you feel like you depend on the cult to be happy (even if the cult is actively making it worse) It’s a complicated subject, but I would say no- people in cults are generally not happy, even if they convince themselves that what they are going through is normal. The relationship between person and cult is unhealthy, co-dependent, and damaging. (I mean obviously. It’s a cult, lol.) I think it’s fascinating to explore cult mentality, because there’s a lot more to it than you think. It’s never as simple as ‘just leave if it makes you unhappy.’ Never listen to anyone or any group that says you NEED them to be happy, because it isn’t true. Stay safe out there!!
So how I’m gathering it here is like a toxic relationship isolationism tactic. Where the cult doesn’t let you interact with anything outside of itself so you can’t have opinions or feelings about anything in the “real” world other than what the leaders tell you so if you’re unhappy generally you just think “hm well at least I’m not there” is that accurate?
don and cassandra can actually marry, if you listen to the pop-up that plays when you enter the goth household for the first time it encourages you to get them to act romantic with each other before marrying, otherwise don will leave her at the altar.
I make them to make out and they did get married. If I try another interaction (just one time of course, if you try more, you will end up marry them anyways), Don refuses to marry Cass.
I'm currently playing the Sims 3 and giving her a better life because she deserved it 💜 she's currently dating Geoffrey Langrabb and may be pregnant with his baby
Also i want to add that the idea of time travelling to the past on sims 3 IS NOT out of the ordinary since LITERALLY THE EXPANSION PACK TO THE FUTURE EXISTS
Yeah! And in Ambitions there is a more minor time machine you could build yourself. With an interaction to travel to the past or future, even woohoo, and you could end up having a young adult or elder child of yours pop out the machine! Anyone with high enough handiness can build one, or locate a machine that just pops up into every city, apparently!
Wasn't it confirmed one of the scientist lads in the sims 2, I think it was mortimer, invented time travel ? That's how don lothario is an adult in sims 3, in the past, as he's transported from sims 2, back in time to sims 3. Then bella has passed from old age in lunar lakes, in the past in sims 3....where her same version of her younger self is living in sunset valley
I once read a theory somewhere that Olive was killing her husbands/lovers in an attempt to make a polycule of ghosts that Grim just happened to get himself caught up in, and honestly, that's the funniest explanation/motive for murder ever, and totally in line with the theme of the Sims. I mean, I've done that. Why can't an NPC?
Just a small correction: It wasn't Cordelia Capp who was pregnant when she died, it was Olivia Monty, Mercutio and Romeo's mother. The two Monty brothers, much like the Capp siblings, also lost both their parents because of the feud - as well as their aunt.
@@2002narrie It's no problem! It's a common mistake to make when you don't play Veronaville too much (specifically the Monty household, where you're bound to see Olivia's ghost eventually). Since Plumbella mentioned she dislikes Shakespeare, I'm assuming this is the case for her 😅
@@unadonnastanca I also think when you bring her back to life (no clean template, has to be EA) her pregnacy is fake, but normal sims when they die pregnant will continue with the pregnancy when they come back to life. Call me kevin accidentally did this in his very, very weird playthrough of sims 2 with pascal he killed him in a pool with his brother since he just wanted vincont? whatever his name was (I am bad at names) and even when pascal came back as a zombie, he gave birth as a zombie. so it makes Olivers pregnancy even weirder and buggier
@@Ilivepuppys The reason why Olivia's pregnancy is fake is because it is simply a mesh. At one point in development, her pregnancy token was deleted, so she lacks the token required for her to eventually give birth - it's as if the game does not recognize that she is pregnant. Since dead sims were not originally meant to be resurrectable, the developers saw no need to give back her token - and thus, Olivia's fake pregnancy came to be.
@@unadonnastanca yeah I know its still super scary, like a creepy pasta but even more sad, the pregnant ghost wanders the house, the baby she once had was no more she wasn't even kicking or a ghost herself she was no more.
To contribute to the piece about Alexander’s “Murder in Pleasantview” - some believe that the Bella who appeared in Strangetown and then Lunar Lakes is not actually the same Bella Goth, but rather a clone implanted with some of her memories. There is evidence in the Sims to support that clones could exist. This may explain why Alexander appears convinced that his mother was murdered, not just abducted. Side note: this was thoroughly delightful and I hope you do more content like this ❤
Isn't there a theory that Lolita was Alexander Goth's wife? There are hints that he went back in time to prevent Bella's disappearance and there is a book that can be bought named something like "A Murder in Pleasantview." which shows as written by Alexander. This could also explain why the Sims 4 is a completely separate timeline. Him saving Bella caused a ripple effect that changed the lives of other sims.
In the Sims 3 for the DS there is an "Alex" Goth that lives in Beacon Bay with his wife Cecilia so for me that confirms that both Alexander and the Calientes (when they pushed Don in) messed with time travel and caused and alternate timeline which is where the sims 4 takes place in
i remember reading about this theory! it also explains Lolita’s death being caused by electrocution - it’s theorised that she attempted to fix the time machine because they’d gone too far back, and wound up getting killed.
Just a theory about Olive that came to me whilst watching. MAYBE, Death was in love with Olive and couldn’t bear to see her happy so kept killing all the men she was with. And although Olive had once had feelings and, even got pregnant, she no longer loved him and, out of fear of Death’s jealousy leading to him killing their son, she gave him up for adoption… stopping at nothing to get what she wants: a happy life for her son.
I already commented a few days ago, but I feel like this deserves its own comment. You should make merch that says something along the lines of “I watched Plumbella’s Sims iceberg video and all I got was this tshirt” and on the back it could say “and a bunch of sim lore” in small print on the back or something maybe
My autism sometimes won’t let me focus on a 30 mins episode of a tv show but 4 hours of plumbella talking about both our special interests? 🙏🏻 unhook the phone, class is in session and I’m not moving for the next four hours 🤓🤓.
No because same. I have ADHD and (obviously) can't focus for long periods of time, but with this video of one of my fav TH-camrs talking nonstop about one of my hyperfixations, I didn't take a single break and sat my ass down to watch the whole thing uninterrupted
Ok this was my first Plumbella video and as someone with a very short attention span, I watched the ENTIRE 4 hour video obsessedly. Absolute perfection. New subscriber and fan here (and a fellow Brit)
2:16:22 My theory is that after painting Opal's face Sunny accidentally fell into the pond himself (maybe he got lost in his thoughts thinking about those med school costs and stuff, wasn't paying attention and lost his footing) and because Opal was a Daredevil she decided she wanted to jump in and try to save him herself instead of trying to call for help, but obviously she's a child and he's fully grown man who is terrified of water so that didn't work out well for either of them.
45:38 Gothic Lolita is also a fashion style that exists. It's still possible she's referring to the style, but there isn't lolita style fashion in the base game so that's why she isn't dressed super lolita
My theory is Juan didn't know Macy had a twin, so he unalived his girlfriend and then saw her twin at the Laundromat and was confused and enraged why she was still alive, so he unalived her too
Pretty sure since Mortimer is a knowledge sim, they all see an abduction as a happy memory because they like aliens and whatnot. I assume the sims team forgot to recode it to be negative.
JESSE. IM THAT PERSON THAT KEEPS ASKING FOR THE HOT TUB DRAMA SHIRT. I WANT ALL OF IT. YOUR DESIGNS ARE 1000 TIMES BETTER THAN THE OFFICIAL SIMS MERCH. PLEASE.
@@dereineschwarzerabe for the 20 year anaverory of the sims, EA released some recoloured hot tub instead of something actually cool for yk, the 20 GODDAMN YEARS THE SIMS SERIES HAS EXISTED
2:09:23 - I love that you make the color scheme rule to keep things clear between family and marriage relationships and then you INSTANTLY break that rule, lol
FINALLY, an iceberg that ACTUALLY EXPLAINS STUFF 🥹💚💚 I hate when icebergs just name random shit, provide little to no context, and move on. ✨️ THIS NEEDS TO BECOME THE STANDARD ✨️ Loved every second!
What’s great about this video is I’ve rewatched it so many times already and since I have TH-cam as background noise, there’s times I find out something new while listening to this every rewatch
Plumbella mentioning Mikes Mic?? A crossover episode?? I’ve been seeing him mentioned way more recently and I’m so glad because he deserves it 👏 Edit to add: Mike is doing a recap of Desperate Housewives (I would like to think it’s because of my many comments about it lol) and the background music of DH is made by the same man who did the Sims 3 music 😄 and I hope he mentions this bc that will feed the delusion that me n Mike are on the same wavelength
In The Sims 4, my sim keeps getting the fear of unfulfilled dreams. The description goes something like "Will they ever achieve their life goals? It's almost like someone's controlling them..." like STOP IT. STOP LOOKING AT ME
2:23:10 "He took 1 for the team & said I'm gonna be the family disappointment, & he was so successful in that. His dad definitely considers him to be that." Plumbella said RIP, Rip Grunt
this is my comfort video I've watched it 4 times already during my gameplay and still dont remember a single thing except that "DON LOTHARIO NAUGHTY NAUGHTYYY" bit and that haunted doll thing
1:24:30 I always assumed the Social Bunny was a reference to the 1950 Jimmy Stewart film, Harvey. He hallucinates a giant bunny named Harvey. This is a masterpiece. As much as you enjoyed making this, I enjoyed watching this. I was 25 minutes in before checking the whole run time. How blessed are we to have over 4 hours of Plumbella explaining Sims Lore and history?!
I don't watch it in one sitting, but everyday a little bit. and I am living for it. It's so fun and relaxing and interesting and I love learning about this. Like if you can (and it seems like you really liked making this) I would love to see another video like this. You talking, living and breathing your hyperfixation is so live giving. Need to do this more often myself, because life feels more fun like this.
Not really related to sims lore but here a bit of sims 2 appreciation: the sims 2 actually translated the names of the towns to other languages (at least to German). Strange town was for example named Merkwürdighausen and I miss this tbh because I normally play the sims in my native language.
The same happened in Portuguese, Strange Town was translated to "Vila Estranha" in EU Portuguese and "Estranhópolis" in Brazilian Portuguese. I played both versions as a teenager. Truly brings back memories.
Same with the Polish version! Miłowo and Dziwnowo (Pleasantview and Strangetown respectively) are such fun names. And it's especially sad when I turn up the sims 4 because they translated the first 3 neighborhoods (Willow Creek, Oasis Springs and Magnolia Promanade) and then the rest are just as they are in the English version T_T
the thing about Mortimer's memory of Bella's disappearance is that, while the memory is green (supposedly "good"), its description is the one that appears in negative memories ("how can this sim live with the terrible knowledge they have gained? Who will be next?"). Knowledge sims (like Mortimer) get positive memories about other sims and themselves getting abducted by aliens, so that may be the reason for the positive memory.
ahhh my fanart at 1:07:15 - tysm for crediting me, jesse! love your videos i've been watching for quite a few years now and feels a bit surreal to see my work in yours! we LOVE a sims iceberg 💖
Do you guys ever think that the sims 4 is like mortemers day dream. Like he has Bella back, his family is happy and togeather and they are still young. What if it isn’t just an alternate timeline- Or maybe it is an alternate universe like everything everywhere all at once. Kind of like the “what if” if Bella was never abducted…
The parallel universe is an official Sims 4 story, as far as I know, as it's not really connected to previous games. But Mortimer's dream is a great theory, except why would he dream of Don banging a milf 😂
Fun fact (maybe) : the social bunny missing a button/ eye is likely another reference to Frank because he is missing one underneath his mask (although the right one, not the left)
41:38 I thought sims 4 had so much of difference because sims 3 had a time travel concept which changed their future. That's why Bella is still with Mortimer and everything is different. The book in sims 3 "wheres Bella?" & "a murder in pleasantview" where written as warnings to Bella by her son Alexander. Theres also a time traveling device used in sims 2 which alludes to Alexander trying to prevent his mother from going missing.
I have spent an ungodly amount of hours over the past week watching Plumbella videos and streams. So much so that I feel I have willed this video into existence. I loaded up Elder Scrolls Online after a long day of work, opened TH-cam to have my Plumbella comfort videos playing, then nearly fell off my chair when I saw "2 hours ago" under the front page video. My soul is ready.
Update: nearly fell off again when I missed something and went to rewind, got confused when I skipped back about 5 minutes before realising the video is 4 hours long. Biiiiish, you are grafting and it is appreciated! 🙏
Something interesting about Don and Cassandra is that, when I usually play the Goths for the first time, I get different results. If they interact with each other romantically at least once before they get married, Don doesn't leave her. Absolutely amazing video! So happy I get to see someone who's just as obsessed as I am hahaha
this is truly the greatest thing i have ever watched on youtube
the absolute joy i feel seeing simsie in plum's comment section
we looove the sims girlies interacting
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Margot Robbie saw this video and thought I gotta make a movie about all this
No bc I'm convinced this is how it went down.
And if thats the case the movie better be just as long 😂
It's been a month and I still don't understand what this is referencing
@@NuttyRedBaBonkerzSAME!!!
@@NuttyRedBaBonkerz Oh I googled it for us and Margot Robbie wants to produce a movie based on the sims
This starts as ✨fun lore✨ and ends four hours later with Jesse having an existential crisis while delivering an introduction to epistemology via the sims
jesse uploading a feature length DOCUMENTARY about her special interest? i’m sat.
Girl this is a whole two part movie
IM SAT
@@jorrdan. perhaps
SAME BESTIE ❤
and that’s on autism 😭😭 love jessie for this
jesse saying she doesn’t like Shakespeare because she doesn’t think she understands it, then beautifully summarizing the tragedy and idiocracy of the generational feud between the montagues and the capulets killed me
She doesn't know bc she is shakespeare
And if im not mistaken, Shakespeare did not even understand his own work
She probably doesn't like it BECAUSE she gets it. It's simple stuff to her.
When I die, I want people to love and remember me like Simmers love Bella Goth.
High bar
The sims world's version of princess Diana 😂
@@alanaramaNO BC SHE ISSS
@@jadebayoba7073
Omg that just makes me want to put Bella in Diana's iconic black dress & jewels (and as The Mother Goth she would look amazing in it)
Bella died of old age :3 she got transported back in time. The most obvious evidence of this is reading the books she writes books addressed for her kids. You can find her grave i think too
Olive didn't give Nervous up for adoption, he was taken away by social services because of neglect! Olive has a memory of it in the sims 2
That’s what I thought. Ugh. Such a tragic story.
He probably actually was being neglected but my personal headcanon was that he wasn’t being neglected at all and just like sometimes in real life, social services was corrupt and called in by people like Circe so they could get to Nervous themselves
@@marythecontrarian thats always been my theory too! :D i feel like olive has to love grim/death so much that she had to have adored nervous and obviously she was willing to do anything to keep grim with her i dont think she would just give up nervous for no good reason. i think circe and loki found out about nervous's dad and pulled some strings so they could do experiments and tests on him.
@@marythecontrarian im not sure, given that ophelia grew up badly while with olive and doesn't have a good relationship with her I feel like she isn't a good caregiver. she's too obsessed with death to pay attention to anything else
There is also a theory that Beakers trick the social service to take Nervous and give him to them because they wanted him due to his special genes.
am in tears. having a mental breakdown. life is awful. i open youtube. this is the first thing i say. my evening has been rescued. the world is good
THIS!
I don't know what's going in your life but don't worry it's gonna be fine I promise
@@Klagerfeld12 i appreciate it. you are a nice person :))
YES
also i hope you’re well❤❤
One of my favourite details about Olive Spectre's house is a) the amount of service outfits (maid, pizza delivery guy etc) in the closet and b) when you play on the lot & order a delivery, they won't come inside! They just leave your groceries on the footpath
This is amazing
the amount of detail in this game is breathtaking
Isn't that how delivery works in TS2? I honestly don't remember
@@AliceDjinger they usually come to the door & ring the doorbell & you need to accept delivery, you can also tip
@@jamiethekid2309TS4 could never 😭
you know it's the best youtuber when they have a 4 hour video, and don't have AUTOMATED SUBTITLES.
Exactly!
That mad lass jesus
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About the living in a simulation part, if you send your Sims to university in the Sims 2 and have them study philosophy, in their senior semester they will take a class called "Who Controls the Pie Menu and Why?"!
that's so real of them, in university I take a course that's about the philosophy of computation and we have discussed if we live in a simulation lol
There’s so much philosophy about how we can’t actually know we don’t live in a simulation. They’re not saying we do, they’re just saying we can’t know we don’t.
It’s an old idea too, like really old middle eastern philosophy talks about it. (Al Gazali for example)
I loved all the names of the classes in the uni expansion pack, they were so fun! I just googled them and read through all of them and cackled all the time. I love how they make fun of everythiiiing hahahaha
caliente > alien got an actual gasp from me.
NO ME TOO 😭😭
The lore was so strong back then 😭
Racist smh lol
FRLL
Same lmao
4 hours of my comfort TH-camr talking about my special interest that’s also their special interest?? SIGN ME UP
My exact thought HAHAH
The vibe
yeaaas!!! I thought the exact same thing! I'm so excited to watch it!
I can't believe I watched it all and was sad when it ended 🥲
Same Fam!
The social bunny and Frank from Donnie Darko are actually both references the same thing: Harvey - a 1944 play based around a man named Elwood whose best friend is a 6'3" anthropomorphic rabbit that only he can see and hear. The story essentially revolves around his family and psychiatrist's discussions as to whether or not to commit Elwood to a sanatorium (and a comedy of errors scenario ensues).
Thanks for that info! This explains why Edna has a bunny called Harvey (it's a video game from a German developer, unsure if it's known elsewhere and if it has an English title, the German title means Edna breaks out)... really good info!
I'm so happy seeing somebody mention this, Harvey is one of my favorite Jimmy Stewart movies 😭
This comment just unlocked my third eye i never knew!!
@@syd8506 same
Bella Goth is such an icon that I always forget she married into the Goth family. IMO she is the OG
OG… original Goth😂
For reference:
The Abduction of Bella Goth (1:26 - 12:07)
Olive Specter is a Serial Killer (12:07 - 16:55)
Don's Affairs (16:55 - 20:49)
Drowning of Skip Broke (20:50 - 25:21)
Strangetown Bella (27:10 - 32:18)
Dina and Nina (32:18 - 33:40)
Nervous Subject (33:40 - 36:09)
Sims Timeline (36:10 - 43:31)
Lolita Goth (43:32 - 48:56)
StrangerVille (48:57 - 53:05)
Feuding Families (54:16 - 57:17)
Von Haunt Estate (57:18 - 1:03:26)
Death's Son (1:03:26 - 1:07:42)
Eye Contact (1:07:42 - 1:09:29)
Bella Goth on Lunar Lakes (1:09:29 - 1:14:50)
The Remmingtons (1:14:50 - 1:19:38)
Donnie Darko (1:20:13 - 1:26:14)
Olive Loves the Grim Reaper (1:26:14 - 1:31:32)
Clown Catchers (1:31:32 - 1:35:07)
Twinbrook (1:35:07 - 1:44:56)
Cordelia and Caliban Capp (1:44:56 - 1:51:19)
Magic Ban (1:51:19 - 1:58:17)
Murder in Pleasantview (1:58:45 - 2:03:43)
Sunny the Tragic Clown (2:03:43 - 2:07:00)
The Tricou Family (2:07:01 - 2:14:07)
Opal Suarley (2:14:07 - 2:17:40)
Running with Scissors (2:17:41 - 2:20:20)
Lyla Vandermorgan (2:20:20 - 2:29:11)
You Have Been Chosen (2:29:12 - 2:31:12)
Accidental Incest (2:31:51 - 2:36:52)
No Happy Ending (2:36:52 - 2:43:00)
The Doe Family (2:43:00 - 2:52:42)
Self-Aware (2:52:42 - 2:56:23)
Haunted Doll Virus (2:56:23 - 3:00:36)
Circe's Affair (3:00:50 - 3:05:03)
Kidnapped (3:05:03 - 3:08:56)
Sims 2 for DS (3:08:56 - 3:17:45)
Knut Futa (3:17:45 - 3:24:33)
Ghost Children (3:24:33 - 3:28:50)
We are all Sims (3:29:09 - 3:37:58)
OMGBBQ (3:37:58 - 3:43:19)
Your Sims are Alive (3:43:19 - 3:49:47)
Sims 4 is a Social Experiment (3:49:47 - 3:58:33)
The Kine Society (3:58:33 - 4:03:31)
Mortimer Killed Bella (4:03:31 - 4:08:32)
omg I'm done this literally took me over 2 hours because I accidentally deleted everything more than halfway through :(
THANK YOU!
oh bless you 😭 thank you!
THANK YOU
amazing
BLESS THIS COMMENT
As a fellow autistic person who shares a special interest in the sims this brings me immense joy
Same! I love talking about the Sims!
I think im autistic and I I’ve been very fixated on the sims recently (currently giving a makeover to all of the sims in the sims 3 Strangetown world that I downloaded) so this video was perfect for me.
SAMEE!!!!
same!!
My oldest daughter was recently diagnosed and I love hearing her talk about her special interests. 🥰 I love learning about special interests from others as well. Sims is definitely one of mine! ❤
Ive just realized- I have ADHD and struggle A LOT with executive dysfunction. A great analogy would be that I feel like a sim with low autonomy that my simmer has forgotten about. I sit around waving at the camera saying my environment is too dirty, but theres no one there to initiate the task.
This is so true tbh
i'm autistic (suspected AuDHD) & that's so relatable 💀 to me it also feels like i'm a sim, with full autonomy, that my simmer clicks off for 2 seconds, that cancels all the micromanaged tasks lined up in the task bar to care for themselves & instead goes to play the violin or something 😭
Omg i feel you so much! I'm also autistic so my life is basically a mess.
I've never felt so seen
Wtf!?! Why is this true? I’m actually spooked bc I’ve had this thought more than once.
I love these ultra long essay type videos, it's like chilling at a friend's house and happily letting them cut loose and run wild with rants and info dumping about a special interest we both share. the only thing missing is the ability to fuel the fire by asking genuine questions or offer theories in real time lol
It’s like finding out your family has insane history from before you were born.
That's a good comparison. Best feeling in the world.
The magic outlawing thing is very interesting. So basically, in the Sims 1 all magic is contained into a single neighbourhood, you do not get magic anywhere else. In the Sims 2, there are no open magic places, all supernatural life forms exist as eastereggs, or secrets that are not advertised and you have to run into them as you play. In the Sims 3 however, magical creatures, witches etc live among society and are plentiful everywhere. This is where the Magic Ban theory came from. Basically, the theory is that at some point between the Sims 3 and the Sims 1, magic creatures all started getting pushed into ghettos, then being fully outlawed and sent into hiding in the time between the Sims 1 and the Sims 2. Then the few witches and vampires that still exist are almost like rebels. There is not much else to this theory, as there's no strict lore text around this, but it is a way of explaining why occults are so plentiful in the Sims 3, but basically disappear by the time of the Sims 2.
Plus the Sims 4 (while mostly never helpful to the lore) does suggest infighting between the magical groups, perhaps that all occurred while pushed away in the previous games?
very interesting!!
@@heath6802 ooo what if that relates to why TS4 is an alternate timeline?! Like maybe something about the infighting or Occult vs. Human rebellion led to a timeline split. In TS2 they lost the war, but in TS4 they live freely.
@@KadyRoxz Even better!
And today I learned that at 27 years old the Burglar sound still causes me insane levels of anxiety even tho I'm not actively playing the game...
(Edit: Glad to know I'm not the only one with deep rooted trauma regarding this lmao)
YES
So true😅
Scares me more than an EAS alarm
I literally felt the fear in my stomach. It’s pain
The Sims 1 and 2 Burglar sounds are nightmarish 💀
don't cry because iceberg soon soon. smile because it sul sul
wait imagine the Tragic Clow's death marked as drowning because he drowned in his own tears crying🥺😭
That's so deep... sims 5, I need the tragic clown back (with answers).
That’s literally why
Hes in the sims 4 🙈@joao2505btch
That's what I always thought
OK so on the magic ban: the basic argument is that at the point of the Sims 3, magic is everywhere with no legal restrictions: you can magic anyplace anytime with no restrictions. When we get to the Sims 1, suddenly there's laws against magicking in public that were not in place at that time, but those laws are lifted by the time Sims 2 rolls around.
Similarly, there are themes of bigotry against paranormal Sims in TS2 (particularly on the part of the Grunts vs. the Smiths and against the Calientes who are IMMEDIATELY suspected once something happens to Bella), which may indicate that the anti-supernatural attitude that produced the anti-magic laws is still prevalent.
It's basically a non-controversiial racism allegory. The baseline plot of the military career in the games (both basegame and console spinoffs) alludes to fighting aliens. The Grunt vs Smiths thing is basiically a "these damn illegal ALIENS" joke
please tell me you got this from a video. this is so familiar - like even jessie just mentioning aliens. i remember reading or hearing this
@@Supergirl9909 I would swear it's a Tumblr post but given how terrible the Tumblr search function is I can't find it for the life of me. If it's in a video my first guess is Izzzyzzz, but tbf I haven't watched those vids in a while so I could be totally wrong.
My theory is that Olive was actively trying to get Nervous to die by neglect so Grim would come back, and that’s why he got taken away 😶😶
This is the best theory I’ve seen
Omg literally this makes so much sense! This is my theory too now!
OKAY BUT do we remember BIGFOOT being in the Sims 2 DS game?? He was locked up in the basement of the hotel. Truly such a wild game lol
And the fact that you literally take the mayor out to the desert in a suitcase… ALIVE
i remember illegally printing money and being so scared of getting caught, and also the robot invasiom terrified me so i would just leave the area every time i found then hahaha
I always got stuck at the same part while playing 😅 I could NOT find the aliens in the desert??
I am reading all the replies here and I’m laughing so hard lol I’ve never played this DS game😭 just castawayd
He was my best friend
TH-camrs are always so exhausted and tried by their own topic in similar videos, it's so nice hearing how excited you are over each category and dreading coming to end. I love how passionate you are over this, and I would take another 4 hours video about the sims any day from you
i was JUST thinking about this!! its so refreshing :D
not plumbella making me finally understand plato's cave in a four hour sims video, after studying for an arts degree for 7 years and never getting it
Four hours ago I’d not have guessed we’d be finishing the video with an in-depth explanation of Plato’s allegory of the cave.
After hearing you talk about it, I am BEGGING you to do a playthough of sims 2 DS pleaseee that game is so unhinged and I would die happy if you covered it
Pleassseee we need it!!! Only thing is the skills spawn at certain times of the day since time is synced with the DS!
YESSSSSSS I love that game and you would be so funny to watch play it
I LOVE that game so much, it's one of the few ds games I have the itch to go back to and play all the way through again
I just want to see how someone completes the final level it is hard.
i would DIE. i looooove my sims 2 ds game
I'm genuinely so obsessed with the embroidered shirts in this video. Jesse SLAYED with all of them and I actually need them
Same!!
@@perksofbeingaloser Same!! It's not a want: It's a need. /lh
ESPECIALLY the tragic clown one
@bethtbh2775 Agreed
3:21:31 OMG!!! I am the author of "More To Life. An Olive Specter Story"!
I had the hardest time deciding whether I should share my writing with the world, so seeing my work mentioned in your video means so, so much to me!
The Knut Futa chapter hasn't been posted yet, but I will be updating the story soon. 😊
Woa I'll have to check it out
@@colin5227 I'd love that! 🙂
@@colin5227 I'd love that! 😊
Sewing my wedding dress and my wife's dress with this playing in the background and having an absolutely DELIGHTFUL time
the FEAR that sims 2 for DS struck in my heart.... oh my god. I was so guilty of time travelling in the game bc i was impatient and sometimes the game would be able to tell and be like what did you do!!! you messed with the timeline!!! and aliens would be EVERYWHERE and the MUSIC. and they would GET YOU. it was my first experience of existential dread, i was like 9 crying about causing a fake alien invasion my god. i had to mute it and cover my screen to get through it. but wow i want to play it again now. the alien autopsies, finding gold omg so many memories
This game traumatised me I swear. Even playing it as an adult it’s got such a terrifying atmosphere. The music, the vibes… you’re constantly on edge playing it. Definitely not suitable for kids lol.😅
it was just so uncanny...
i bought myself a ds last year for the sole reason of being able to play it again lmao
4 hours of "BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE-" and I'm living for it.
Petition for plumbella to create a sims 4 save where she makes all the lore and stories included in the world
This would be everything
yes
Honestly news sims challenge- play through the story of the Goths and the Caliente’s (plus Donathan) until they reach sims 2 CANON 😂
This really would be everything, I'm already scheming making Olive Specter and having her "accidentally" give people poor quality pufferfish nigiri
There actually is one already! It’s called The Love Letter Save by Prxnce. I downloaded it yesterday and it’s incredible!!😊
Even if Sims 4 being an alternate timeline was a cop out, I hope they get back on track with Sims 5 and make it explain Sims 4 in the context of the other timelines. Maybe Sims 5 can be a prequel of Sims 4 where Alexander and Don are made responsible for the alternate universe.
Timestamps for my favorite girlies💕
SECTION ONE - 01:23
Abduction of Bella Goth - 01:27
Olive Specter is a serial killer - 12:08
Don’s affairs - 16:55
The drowning of Skip Broke - 20:50
SECTION 2 - 27:02
Bella appears in Strangetown- 27:11
Who is Nervous Subject? - 33:40
Sims timeline - 36:10
Who was Lolita Goth? - 43:33
StrangerVille - 48:57
SECTION 3 - 53:05
Feuding Monty and Capp families - 54:23
The ghosts of Von Haunt Estate - 57:18
Nervous Subject is Death’s son - 01:03:26
Sims eye contact with player - 01:07:42
Bella Goths burial on Lunar Lakes - 01:09:29
The Remmington family dies prematurely at their estate - 01:14:50
SECTION 4 - 01:19:40
Donnie Darko and the social bunny - 01:20:13
Olive kills to see her love Grimm - 01:26:14
Government hunt for the Tragic Clown - 01:31:33
Strangely placed graves found in Twinbrook - 01:35:07
The deaths of Cordelia and Caliban Capp - 01:44:56
Magic is criminalized in the Sims 2 timeline - 01:51:20
SECTION 5 - 01:58:18
Alexander Goth writes “Murder in Pleasantview” about Bella’s disappearance 50 years before his own birth - 01:58:47
Sunny the Tragic Clown - 02:03:43
The Tricou family haunts the house of fallen trees - 02:07:01
Opal Suarley - 02:14:07
Downloadable murder method - 02:17:41
Lyla Grunt’s death goes unnoticed by her own family - 02:20:20
Eerie prank calls in Sims 1 - 02:29:12
SECTION 6 - 02:31:42
Accidental incest - 02:31:53
No happy ending - 02:36:53
The dark past of the Doe family and the unidentified corpses - 02:43:00
Doctor Dominic is aware of the plumbob- 02:52:42
The Haunted Doll Virus - 02:56:25
SECTION 7 - 03:00:37
Circe’s affair and hypnotism - 03:00:50
Kidnapped - 03:05:03
Unusually creepy atmosphere and themes for Sims 2 DS - 03:08:57
Knut Futa sets a record in corruption - 03:17:45
Glitchy ghost children - 03:24:33
SECTION 8 - 03:28:51
We are all Sims - 03:29:09
OMGWTFBBQ! - 03:37:58
Sims are alive and sentient - 03:43:19
The Sims 4 bad on purpose because it’s a social experiment - 03:49:46
Doctor Dominic starts his own cult, the Kine society, to try and summon a demon cow god - 03:58:33
Mortimer killed Bella - 04:03:31
Not all heroes wear capes.
amazing
Thank you!!
This is the lords work
you are an angel
jesse as a fellow autistic with a sims special interest I LOVE YOU SO MUCH BABES YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!! i’ve been so hyped for this video and i’m so excited to watch!!
babes same 😭 absolutely living for this era 🙏
I had no idea she was autistic lmao. I find more and more of us everyday it feels like. Good to see us out here thriving
I came here to say this!!!!! IM SO EXCITED
THISSSSS
same! I love this so much 😭🥺
I love Iceberg videos, and one common theme i've noticed is that people stop really editing or lose interest as the video goes on because of how tedious icebergs are but this was definitely not the case with you. I loved every minute of this and it really shows just how much care and effort you put into it.
I'm laughing my ass off. This video does NOT feel like it's four hours long. Can't believe I haven't come across this channel earlier, it's exactly my brand of humor.
Jesse I'm so sorry but you mention a few times Olive "giving up" Nervous but she didn't, she's got a memory of having a child taken away. she neglected him until the social services got involved
THANK U LOL I APOLOGISE
thats true! cant raise a child when your busy murdering after all
4 HOURS? Forget the snacks, I'll need a three course meal and I am here for it.
I thought the Jane Doe story could be like a Stepford Wives situation, so rather than Jane being a murderer, John has had Jane replaced with a robot-like clone wife (or altered her brain to be more subservient). Maybe she turned out a bit “off” so Joe has to help out a lot… Thank you for this video Jesse - I’m LIVING!! ❤
1:32:41
Fbejebfjfbf- OKAY SO: cult survivor here!
A common tactic for cults is to break your self esteem down and make you feel like you depend on the cult to be happy (even if the cult is actively making it worse)
It’s a complicated subject, but I would say no- people in cults are generally not happy, even if they convince themselves that what they are going through is normal. The relationship between person and cult is unhealthy, co-dependent, and damaging. (I mean obviously. It’s a cult, lol.)
I think it’s fascinating to explore cult mentality, because there’s a lot more to it than you think. It’s never as simple as ‘just leave if it makes you unhappy.’
Never listen to anyone or any group that says you NEED them to be happy, because it isn’t true. Stay safe out there!!
So how I’m gathering it here is like a toxic relationship isolationism tactic. Where the cult doesn’t let you interact with anything outside of itself so you can’t have opinions or feelings about anything in the “real” world other than what the leaders tell you so if you’re unhappy generally you just think “hm well at least I’m not there” is that accurate?
don and cassandra can actually marry, if you listen to the pop-up that plays when you enter the goth household for the first time it encourages you to get them to act romantic with each other before marrying, otherwise don will leave her at the altar.
Yea or if you play Don first and invite her over then their relationship is good enough and they will get married
altar*
I make them to make out and they did get married. If I try another interaction (just one time of course, if you try more, you will end up marry them anyways), Don refuses to marry Cass.
shirt idea: raise your hand if you've ever been personally victimized by Agnes Crumplebottom
I want this as a hoodie, in black. So I can still wear it everyday without ruining my goth aesthetic.
@@ravenartistofficialget it on a black handbag with spikes 😈
I'm currently playing the Sims 3 and giving her a better life because she deserved it 💜 she's currently dating Geoffrey Langrabb and may be pregnant with his baby
Or....I got handbagged slapped by Agnes crumplebottom. so everyone knows you've been out flirting in public
🙋♀
Also i want to add that the idea of time travelling to the past on sims 3 IS NOT out of the ordinary since LITERALLY THE EXPANSION PACK TO THE FUTURE EXISTS
*INTO the future
Yeah! And in Ambitions there is a more minor time machine you could build yourself. With an interaction to travel to the past or future, even woohoo, and you could end up having a young adult or elder child of yours pop out the machine! Anyone with high enough handiness can build one, or locate a machine that just pops up into every city, apparently!
Wasn't it confirmed one of the scientist lads in the sims 2, I think it was mortimer, invented time travel ? That's how don lothario is an adult in sims 3, in the past, as he's transported from sims 2, back in time to sims 3. Then bella has passed from old age in lunar lakes, in the past in sims 3....where her same version of her younger self is living in sunset valley
@@tea-rex5658nah he invented the elixir of life
I once read a theory somewhere that Olive was killing her husbands/lovers in an attempt to make a polycule of ghosts that Grim just happened to get himself caught up in, and honestly, that's the funniest explanation/motive for murder ever, and totally in line with the theme of the Sims.
I mean, I've done that. Why can't an NPC?
Just a small correction: It wasn't Cordelia Capp who was pregnant when she died, it was Olivia Monty, Mercutio and Romeo's mother. The two Monty brothers, much like the Capp siblings, also lost both their parents because of the feud - as well as their aunt.
OMG thank u i was looking everywhere for where the news ab cordelia’s pregnancy was! i just looked it up and you’re right!!
@@2002narrie It's no problem! It's a common mistake to make when you don't play Veronaville too much (specifically the Monty household, where you're bound to see Olivia's ghost eventually). Since Plumbella mentioned she dislikes Shakespeare, I'm assuming this is the case for her 😅
@@unadonnastanca I also think when you bring her back to life (no clean template, has to be EA) her pregnacy is fake, but normal sims when they die pregnant will continue with the pregnancy when they come back to life. Call me kevin accidentally did this in his very, very weird playthrough of sims 2 with pascal he killed him in a pool with his brother since he just wanted vincont? whatever his name was (I am bad at names) and even when pascal came back as a zombie, he gave birth as a zombie. so it makes Olivers pregnancy even weirder and buggier
@@Ilivepuppys The reason why Olivia's pregnancy is fake is because it is simply a mesh. At one point in development, her pregnancy token was deleted, so she lacks the token required for her to eventually give birth - it's as if the game does not recognize that she is pregnant. Since dead sims were not originally meant to be resurrectable, the developers saw no need to give back her token - and thus, Olivia's fake pregnancy came to be.
@@unadonnastanca yeah I know its still super scary, like a creepy pasta but even more sad, the pregnant ghost wanders the house, the baby she once had was no more she wasn't even kicking or a ghost herself she was no more.
To contribute to the piece about Alexander’s “Murder in Pleasantview” - some believe that the Bella who appeared in Strangetown and then Lunar Lakes is not actually the same Bella Goth, but rather a clone implanted with some of her memories. There is evidence in the Sims to support that clones could exist. This may explain why Alexander appears convinced that his mother was murdered, not just abducted.
Side note: this was thoroughly delightful and I hope you do more content like this ❤
Isn't there a theory that Lolita was Alexander Goth's wife? There are hints that he went back in time to prevent Bella's disappearance and there is a book that can be bought named something like "A Murder in Pleasantview." which shows as written by Alexander. This could also explain why the Sims 4 is a completely separate timeline. Him saving Bella caused a ripple effect that changed the lives of other sims.
This actually makes a lot of sense
This is the theory I've bought into that allows me to justify Sims 4, haha. I always make Alexander and author for this reason
i have seen the theory about lolita being alexanders wide but I think the sims 4 being a ripple effect would make everything better
In the Sims 3 for the DS there is an "Alex" Goth that lives in Beacon Bay with his wife Cecilia so for me that confirms that both Alexander and the Calientes (when they pushed Don in) messed with time travel and caused and alternate timeline which is where the sims 4 takes place in
i remember reading about this theory! it also explains Lolita’s death being caused by electrocution - it’s theorised that she attempted to fix the time machine because they’d gone too far back, and wound up getting killed.
Just a theory about Olive that came to me whilst watching. MAYBE, Death was in love with Olive and couldn’t bear to see her happy so kept killing all the men she was with. And although Olive had once had feelings and, even got pregnant, she no longer loved him and, out of fear of Death’s jealousy leading to him killing their son, she gave him up for adoption… stopping at nothing to get what she wants: a happy life for her son.
genius
This is actually beautiful and makes a lot of sense
I already commented a few days ago, but I feel like this deserves its own comment. You should make merch that says something along the lines of “I watched Plumbella’s Sims iceberg video and all I got was this tshirt” and on the back it could say “and a bunch of sim lore” in small print on the back or something maybe
yessssss 😂❤ I would buy that for sure
omg fall out boy reference x sims reference is everything
Re shirts: I would totally buy the tragic clown shirt. Also an “I’m Bonehilda, you’re Eliza Pancakes. We are not the same.” Would be iconic
My autism sometimes won’t let me focus on a 30 mins episode of a tv show but 4 hours of plumbella talking about both our special interests? 🙏🏻
unhook the phone, class is in session and I’m not moving for the next four hours 🤓🤓.
I was like "Why would you take the phone off the charger?" before I realised you meant like the phones that had a stand/hook...
@@chloekat1450 haha yes I’m landline telephone old 😂
No because same. I have ADHD and (obviously) can't focus for long periods of time, but with this video of one of my fav TH-camrs talking nonstop about one of my hyperfixations, I didn't take a single break and sat my ass down to watch the whole thing uninterrupted
@@shiannafoxxME TOO!!😂😂 loving this so much
Ok this was my first Plumbella video and as someone with a very short attention span, I watched the ENTIRE 4 hour video obsessedly. Absolute perfection. New subscriber and fan here (and a fellow Brit)
2:16:22 My theory is that after painting Opal's face Sunny accidentally fell into the pond himself (maybe he got lost in his thoughts thinking about those med school costs and stuff, wasn't paying attention and lost his footing) and because Opal was a Daredevil she decided she wanted to jump in and try to save him herself instead of trying to call for help, but obviously she's a child and he's fully grown man who is terrified of water so that didn't work out well for either of them.
45:38 Gothic Lolita is also a fashion style that exists. It's still possible she's referring to the style, but there isn't lolita style fashion in the base game so that's why she isn't dressed super lolita
Yea cause like if her surname was different I think the other outcome would be more likely but they have to have had searched her name before
Her traits and likes being things like childish and liking kids music would be a crazy coincidence though when it comes to naming a character Lolita.
@@CloutKamui Childish is a sims 4 trait
@@shiannafoxxit’s a sims 3 trait too
@@caspeepeepoopoo Sorry. I haven’t played Sims 3 in years since I lost the password to my origin account. I always just thought it only came with 4.
Plumbella describing that red dress chicken had me in tears 😂😂
I know I had to immediately check that out lol Jesse is hilarious!
@@orangetown67 the most relatable youtuber I know of tbh lmao
SAMEEEE ive seent he video before so i was already laughing at the connection, but the reenactment sent me into a tizzy
My theory is Juan didn't know Macy had a twin, so he unalived his girlfriend and then saw her twin at the Laundromat and was confused and enraged why she was still alive, so he unalived her too
I love how this started as funny sims lore and then ended as a philosophical disscusion about whether we exist in a simulation or not
Pretty sure since Mortimer is a knowledge sim, they all see an abduction as a happy memory because they like aliens and whatnot. I assume the sims team forgot to recode it to be negative.
JESSE. IM THAT PERSON THAT KEEPS ASKING FOR THE HOT TUB DRAMA SHIRT. I WANT ALL OF IT. YOUR DESIGNS ARE 1000 TIMES BETTER THAN THE OFFICIAL SIMS MERCH. PLEASE.
Omg you made it real, I have to ask.... What's the hot tub drama...
@@dereineschwarzerabe for the 20 year anaverory of the sims, EA released some recoloured hot tub instead of something actually cool for yk, the 20 GODDAMN YEARS THE SIMS SERIES HAS EXISTED
The sims 1 burglar sound is legit my ring doorbell tone 😅😂
Wait foreal??????😮
@@medeucaa yep ! Haha
2:09:23 - I love that you make the color scheme rule to keep things clear between family and marriage relationships and then you INSTANTLY break that rule, lol
FINALLY, an iceberg that ACTUALLY EXPLAINS STUFF 🥹💚💚 I hate when icebergs just name random shit, provide little to no context, and move on. ✨️ THIS NEEDS TO BECOME THE STANDARD ✨️ Loved every second!
If you don’t release the shirts from this video I will, in fact, cry.
I want the tragic clown one SO BAD!!! crossing my fingers she releases them.
she did!!!@@tigergirl4028
What’s great about this video is I’ve rewatched it so many times already and since I have TH-cam as background noise, there’s times I find out something new while listening to this every rewatch
loving the longer form content!!!!! this is absolutely my highlight of 2024
FOUR HOURS omg martin scorsese quaking
He's been real quiet since this dropped 👀
Plumbella mentioning Mikes Mic?? A crossover episode?? I’ve been seeing him mentioned way more recently and I’m so glad because he deserves it 👏
Edit to add: Mike is doing a recap of Desperate Housewives (I would like to think it’s because of my many comments about it lol) and the background music of DH is made by the same man who did the Sims 3 music 😄 and I hope he mentions this bc that will feed the delusion that me n Mike are on the same wavelength
Legends recognize legends
I know right! And somehow it makes perfect sense that she know about him 😂😂😂
AND HE WATCHES HER!!! he mentioned that he watched her videos on one of his podcast (rip)
@@virtintin3069omg which episode did he mention plumbella?
HES ALSO MET MCMUFFIN (steph’s dog) mike is a simmurrrr
In The Sims 4, my sim keeps getting the fear of unfulfilled dreams. The description goes something like "Will they ever achieve their life goals? It's almost like someone's controlling them..." like STOP IT. STOP LOOKING AT ME
4 HOURS OF PLUMBELLA CONTENT?!
She disappeared for 2 months and returns with 2 months of content! Love it!
Ugh I wanted to cry after finishing the video, it was SO GOOD!!!
Thank you so much for making this video Jesse
I got so excited over this I threw my ipad into my dinner by accident
hope ur ipad is okay omg 😭
Omg!
did it taste good
I’m absolutely laughing my head off over this comment
😂😂😂
2:23:10 "He took 1 for the team & said I'm gonna be the family disappointment, & he was so successful in that. His dad definitely considers him to be that." Plumbella said RIP, Rip Grunt
this is my comfort video I've watched it 4 times already during my gameplay and still dont remember a single thing except that "DON LOTHARIO NAUGHTY NAUGHTYYY" bit and that haunted doll thing
1:24:30 I always assumed the Social Bunny was a reference to the 1950 Jimmy Stewart film, Harvey. He hallucinates a giant bunny named Harvey.
This is a masterpiece. As much as you enjoyed making this, I enjoyed watching this. I was 25 minutes in before checking the whole run time. How blessed are we to have over 4 hours of Plumbella explaining Sims Lore and history?!
Donnie Darko was referencing Harvey, so it’s like the Social Bunny is Harvey’s grandpa. 😄
Loved it. FYI Olive Spector has a memory that social services took Nervous due to neglect. She did not give him up willingly
I don't watch it in one sitting, but everyday a little bit. and I am living for it. It's so fun and relaxing and interesting and I love learning about this. Like if you can (and it seems like you really liked making this) I would love to see another video like this. You talking, living and breathing your hyperfixation is so live giving. Need to do this more often myself, because life feels more fun like this.
1:24:32 It also gives me vibes of “Harvey” the movie and the song by Hers. It’s so amazing how the sims was so creative. 😭
Not really related to sims lore but here a bit of sims 2 appreciation: the sims 2 actually translated the names of the towns to other languages (at least to German). Strange town was for example named Merkwürdighausen and I miss this tbh because I normally play the sims in my native language.
The same happened in Portuguese, Strange Town was translated to "Vila Estranha" in EU Portuguese and "Estranhópolis" in Brazilian Portuguese. I played both versions as a teenager. Truly brings back memories.
Same with the Polish version! Miłowo and Dziwnowo (Pleasantview and Strangetown respectively) are such fun names. And it's especially sad when I turn up the sims 4 because they translated the first 3 neighborhoods (Willow Creek, Oasis Springs and Magnolia Promanade) and then the rest are just as they are in the English version T_T
Same with Russian! strange town was called Kitezhgrad (Китежград), which has ties to slavic folklore and history! It was such a thoughtful thing.
In the italian version Strange Town goes by "Stranizia" which literally means "something strange"!
In fench, Strangetown is Zarbville,the slang for strange (bizarre -> zarb) and town, and Pleasantview is Monsimpa (Mount nice) !
the thing about Mortimer's memory of Bella's disappearance is that, while the memory is green (supposedly "good"), its description is the one that appears in negative memories ("how can this sim live with the terrible knowledge they have gained? Who will be next?"). Knowledge sims (like Mortimer) get positive memories about other sims and themselves getting abducted by aliens, so that may be the reason for the positive memory.
Yes!!! I always thought about it being positive from the perspective of a scientist, not a husband who lost his lifelong love and friend.
ahhh my fanart at 1:07:15 - tysm for crediting me, jesse! love your videos i've been watching for quite a few years now and feels a bit surreal to see my work in yours! we LOVE a sims iceberg 💖
It is so soft and lovely!!!
@@dereineschwarzerabethank you!!! 😭💖
You make some of my favorite Sims fanart! With the power of delusion and your art combined I can convince myself Nervous Subject had a happy ending.
@@anahand4137 aaaa tysm! we can truly give him the happy ending he deserves 👽
i love u acknowledging who inspired u and giving credit at the start and then putting your own spin on it and not doing the same format everyone does
A fellow Autistic posts a 4 hour video about their special interest which is also my special interest? Best day ever.
"Donnothan, which I believe is his full name." 😂 That is golden. 👏😂
It sent me 😂
Do you guys ever think that the sims 4 is like mortemers day dream. Like he has Bella back, his family is happy and togeather and they are still young. What if it isn’t just an alternate timeline-
Or maybe it is an alternate universe like everything everywhere all at once. Kind of like the “what if” if Bella was never abducted…
The parallel universe is an official Sims 4 story, as far as I know, as it's not really connected to previous games.
But Mortimer's dream is a great theory, except why would he dream of Don banging a milf 😂
ooh, like the alternate universe if he used the life potion and had his 'ideal' life (give that he looks young)
Yeah, maybe he filled a wishing well with the elixier while wearing the happy helmet (what's it called again?)
Its gotta be something cause bella and don are even young adults instead of adults in sims 4.
Fun fact (maybe) : the social bunny missing a button/ eye is likely another reference to Frank because he is missing one underneath his mask (although the right one, not the left)
Every time Jess flips the white board and it clicks into place >>>
2:49:04 it’s like looking in a mirror babe!!!
Thank you for this so iconic
Reacting to in*est by singing Sweet Home Alabama: ❌
Reacting by singing Accidentally In Love: ✅
this iceberg SNUBBED Sims 2 castaway for PS2 I feel like that game has so many mysteries and hidden things you could theorise about!!
41:38 I thought sims 4 had so much of difference because sims 3 had a time travel concept which changed their future. That's why Bella is still with Mortimer and everything is different. The book in sims 3 "wheres Bella?" & "a murder in pleasantview" where written as warnings to Bella by her son Alexander. Theres also a time traveling device used in sims 2 which alludes to Alexander trying to prevent his mother from going missing.
Omg... This is so fascinating...
This is amazing. A work of art. A service to the community. I can't even imagine how much time and effort went into this video ❤
3:20:20 Yooo, that's me! I'm knut-rocketman! I can't believe this dumb idea I had made it onto a Plumbella video, that's awesome! Thank you!!
I have spent an ungodly amount of hours over the past week watching Plumbella videos and streams. So much so that I feel I have willed this video into existence. I loaded up Elder Scrolls Online after a long day of work, opened TH-cam to have my Plumbella comfort videos playing, then nearly fell off my chair when I saw "2 hours ago" under the front page video. My soul is ready.
Update: nearly fell off again when I missed something and went to rewind, got confused when I skipped back about 5 minutes before realising the video is 4 hours long. Biiiiish, you are grafting and it is appreciated! 🙏
The fact that other sims can't see the social bunny is terrifying ngl
Something interesting about Don and Cassandra is that, when I usually play the Goths for the first time, I get different results. If they interact with each other romantically at least once before they get married, Don doesn't leave her. Absolutely amazing video! So happy I get to see someone who's just as obsessed as I am hahaha
I believe it depends on don's aspiration meter! The higher it is the more likely he is to marry her.