Some Alcohol & a Quick Blowy to Dry Her Out 😂 WILL IT WORK? | SAILING SEABIRD Ep. 35
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- Some Alcohol & a Quick Blowy to Dry Her Out 😂 WILL IT WORK? | SAILING SEABIRD Ep. 35
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Nice comments on the job at hand makes my day.
Don't apologize for your videos. I think they are fantastic. Your editing Stu's dry sense of humor and both your work ethics are wonderful. I love Stu's resourcefulness and obviously, your support for him and how he does things is great to watch just what can be done if you really want something and work for it. Keep going It's great
Finishing the keel will be a landmark event🎉
It's our main issue. Once done, we can crack on with the rest.
It will come, slowly slowly 🐌
Cheers for watching 😃
Steady as she goes Stu! If there is any "foam" in those Keel spaces at all-dry out will be almost impossible. What water remains inside will only add weight to your hull. You both are doing a patient job to get most of the water out. Let her sit with the holes open while you do more topside. You can even complete the rest of the upper hull's work down to the Bilge turn of the keel. By then it will be as dry as its ever going to be. THEN you add your Epoxy to seal the Voids. In a month or so that will do just nicely! Cheers for you both---good buy on that main'sl. Rich
I’m enjoying your videos. I started with the first one
You kids are amazing !
Thats a lot of work on the keel to accomplish little. Jut cut it open, dry it out, fill with whatever you think is good and glass it up. Save a lot of time and have a much better job.
From a 52 year old guy in KCMO, a long ways from the ocean. I think my midlife crisis is to go sailing with my wife of course. I watch about 5 different sailing videos, and Sailing Seabird has become my favorite! I missed the Waygoose videos, but I really enjoyed the struggle of making old new again. Good job.
Thank you.
It's an interesting journey.
Wayzgoose was really set up, we worked hard getting her the way she is.
Onwards and upwards.
Cheers for watching 😃
Trying to figure out what a KCMO is. Give us a better clue!
Też nie wiem co to jest KCMO. 😊
I took a 30cm section off the top of my encapsulated keel underneath the cabin sole, it made the drying out with fans a bit simpler as well as filling the voids with epoxy. I wouldn't worry too much about the number holes, the more the merrier as it allows you to keep track of where the epoxy has reached. Doing the hammer test after each pour and tracking down the remaining voids is pretty satisfying. Hearing a concrete sound of a hammer tap brings out a smile.
I love the hole-ly sweater. My wife and I would be arguing with her on the "throw it out" side and me on the "it's still good for projects" side.
Best vid title ever haha!
That’s what we thought 😅
Greetings from Cape Town SA
Hiya,
Hope you enjoyed the episode.
Cheers for watching 😃
You're getting really good at making these videos.. they're entertaining and put together quite well..
You two guys are really growing on me! Keep up the good work. Don't change a thing! .
Hello, I see on the internet it says acetone will soften fiberglass resin. Maybe investigate that before putting acetone in the keel.
That's why we've been using iso alcohol.
Cheers for watching 😃
Acetone would probably be even more effective for the internal water removal than the isopropyl alcohol. Acetone aggressively dissolves with and evaporates water. Drilling an even larger top hole for the hoover connection would also get much more airflow moving behind fiberglass. Suction rather than pressure might also be good more moving more air.
Doen't acetone dissolve hardened resin?
@@andrewseaman7012 It breaks down resin yep would take a few months of soaking but it takes seconds for foam to dissolve which is sometimes used in keel spaces too, you would be best to heat the air in the keel after using to evaporate the acetone.
I read on internet that an acetone "soak" will soften the fiberglass resin. I don't know if this is true or not.
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To us Americans, a couple mils is "a little bit"
Much the same here.
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I admire your resilience! Regarding the moisture in the keel: open up the top of the keel in the bilge, with several apertures. That makes drying out more feasible, with a forced airflow top down. The water probably came in via the bilge, so the inside of the keel/bilge should be glassed over anyway after drying.
Good idea.
We are thinking the same.
Cheers for watching 😃
When the boat was built the ballast was added being one piece or ingots the voids were filled with whatever and the top was glassed over. Cut a big hole on top of the keel inside the boat, or as many as needed, (save these pieces to refill the holes) let the keel dry out then pour resin on top of the ballast to fill any voids letting it find its own level. and then re-fibreglass the top, job done.
It's often going to be hit and miss with certain jobs especially on hull and keel, however as it is said slowly slowly catchy monkey. Just remember every job completed is a step closer to the finished product. Another great video, thank you guys. xx
You guys should try going the other way and get an air compressor with a nozzle attached to force the water out rather than trying to air dry the keel with the vacuum or sucking the water out. Since there is no outside air movement inside the keel, it's going to take forever to get the water to evaporate.
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Booze and Blowy? I wish my Friday nights were always like this! Loving the video guys, thanks for posting!
see if the yard has a vacuum pump setup you can borrrow. If you vacuum bag the keel with polyethylene sheet and butyl tape you can essentially boil any standing water out at ambient temps and suck out the water vapor out at the same time.
I'm really enjoying your videos, well done and keep up the hard work.
Would a compressor with a air gun help push out the water in the keel? don't know if anybody on the yard has one but might help. Cheers David
Great idea.
Cheers for watching 😃
Keep on with the good job. Keep Stu in line. He looks a little crazy sometimes. Lol
clean it with a grinder and re-glass it... and put some primer over it!!!! its not degreasing
That's the plan.
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Hello from Belgium !!! 😜
Hello there!
The only correct repair is to open the keel from the inside, pull out the ballast, rinse and glue it with fiberglass. Then move the ballast back and glue. Everything you do will not give any result, but will only take time and money.
You're right. The Ballast is set in concrete so it would be a huge job. Try and find 3 tonnes of lead, then set in polyester. Not impossible but I doubt we'll do it. No plans to go anywhere cold so no real worries.
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Tack!
Super!
Thank you for your donation, it goes a long way.
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You could try a Dehumidifier placed inside the keil and leave it for a day then see what moisture it has collected, i used one in our celler and it removes several litres p/week.
Not a bad idea. Just wondering how to get it in there.
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Nice trick with
"The Hoover"!!
😊
Good teamwork and olé!
Thank you.
Cheers for watching 😃
Drill some decent size holes - it's 50mm holesaw material - the hoover can't push any air worth a damn through a 6mm hole!
Their are construction injected epoxy designed for that exact purpose.
We've just bought so underwater epoxy filler for the keel. We'll give that a go and then cover the keel in fibreglass.
Cheers for watching 😃
Look forward to your video every week. Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
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I'm the first suckers!!!!! ahahhaa I really enjoyed the live bit you guys did!!
Hi Guys. I started watching you guys from brazil and have been rooting for you. I just saw that you are staying the winter so I became a Patreon! Woo hoo. Look forward to more. Don't forget to stock up your Amazon wish list! Thanks for all your happiness.
Thank you so much for supporting us.
You're help goes a long way.
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The passarelle was a great score! Gorgeous weather, progress! And that sweater was a beautiful shade of blue.. 😎❤️😎❤️😎
You guys are great! Keep up the good work.
I wonder if you could seal all the holes, install a temporary fitting, and pull a vacuum on the keel? The vacuum will boil off the water inside and dry it out. This is the process used in air conditioning when removing air and moisture in a hermetically sealed system. I don't know if the keel is sealed enough to cause the pressure to drop to cause water to boil, but I've seen vacuum applied to other applications and it seems to work. You might have to find a larger CFM pump to create enough vacuum. Just an idea.
Food for thought.
We'll look into it.
Cheers for watching 😃
You're doing great mates. Your quest is at it's finals and the sea is verry near. 😌😌 Yesssss... So near that it is a little bit furthered out of the marina!!😜😝😁🤣🤣🤣
Well, in a serious note... Yor videos are helping me a lot due to the fact I have my eyes on exactly a sailboat like yours. A 1974 Gulfstar 41 Center Cockpit Sloop that is in neeed of a TLC (Tender Loving Care).
Is more complete than yours, but never the less needs some work.
Ooooohhhh by the way ... Marina, Necesitas alimentar a Stuart más seguido y dejarlo descansar más tiempo. El pobre hombre nesecita atencion y cuidado! 🫤😏😏
Buedo, viene que abuena hora los espero desde USA para ver el proximo video! 👌👍👍
That is a workable plan for the keel. Flooding from the bottom is going to be the best way when it’s resin application time. Steady progress. Slowly slowly catchy monkey. Go well guys. 👍
Really admire your determination in this venture and am sure before too long you`ll have Seabird shipshape and bristol fashion. Best of luck to you both!
Hey guys, thanks for sharing your journey; cheers to your stellar effort! I've been binging. Curious about things like, how much supplies youve gone through; resin, sanding discs, etc. Also, what was the 2 part fairing you used in this episode?
Thanks all, love your channel!
Thanks for another great video ...keep the humour in the videos go well both of you from Vung Tau
Thank you! Will do!
Got to keep it funny or else we might cry with the mountain of work we have in front of us.
Cheers for watching 😃
Can you borrow an air compressor more pressure to push out any water left in the keel.
Was thinking the same.
Cheers for watching 😃
Fantastic job you have done removing all the paint.I wonder why you are so careful about opening the keel? Is the ballast in one piece of lead or iron or consisting of many smaller pieces? I wish you every success with your project and very happy to follow you on video.
Another Awesome video, Keep it up. Great smiles and positive attitudes.
Great job guys ❤️❤️
Glad you enjoy.
Cheers for watching 😃
Nice one as always and really do like your chaotic approach this week 😂. Take care you two.🎉
Another week working on the keel, you will be so very glad when its finally finished. Great celebrations that day. Keep going ❤
I appreciate your work very much. It must be very difficult to deal with an unknown scrap boat.
It really is!
But we'll figure something out.
Cheers for watching 😃
I read a bunch of comments and I Totally agree with What @ Herblay 63 recommended about 18 comments below. This is what he suggested. I took a 30cm section off the top of my encapsulated keel underneath the cabin sole, it made the drying out with fans a bit simpler as well as filling the voids with epoxy. I wouldn't worry too much about the number holes, the more the merrier as it allows you to keep track of where the epoxy has reached. Doing the hammer test after each pour and tracking down the remaining voids is pretty satisfying. Hearing a concrete sound of a hammer tap brings out a smile.
Great advice.
Thanks for taking the time to read the other comments.
Cheers for watching 😃
What a lovely involuntary little drain hole !
An idea, might be stupid, leave 2 holes, one at the top of the keel one right at the bottom, close off all others. Make the holes so you can screw/glue french bike vaules into them, pumb it fill of air and release it via the bottom one, pressing out most of the water with the air. if you have a compresser, you can bump into the top one whilst releasing it from the bottom..
I love your sense of humor marina
Can you use expanding foam pump it in that will expand push out the water and make it water tight ????
No!
It will crack more fibreglass away from the keel.
A mate tried years ago. Plus with research, we've been warned to not use this method.
But, we did think this might be an option.
Cheers for watching 😃
Hull is coming on nicely she is slowly changing from an ugly duckling to a Swan Well done 😊😊
But a swan changes a little quicker.
The Swan would have its own ugly ducklings before we've finished.
Cheers for watching 😃
Heat is a way to enhance vapour pressure of the water inside the keel. Hot air flow is a formidable drying agent. The hoover approach looks promising to me. I would try to get it really dry before pouring exoxy in.
Inspiring
Ah, I always wondered what a quick blowy entailed. Looks like hard messy work but worth the effort 👌.
😂😂😂 Now you know!
I keep telling her that, but she's not buying it.
Great video as always! 🤗
Yip that shaft is on its wayyyyy he heeee
Which shaft? We have the new rudder shaft, just got to strip the rudder down to get it ready for welding.
Rudder port seems OK. Maybe a bit more of a polish, new packing and bolts.
Cheers for watching 😃
Hi Guys. The Boat is looking Great. Nice Weather there. The Keel will take ages to dry out but at least there's some water coming out of it lol. Great Video again Stu. Keep it up 😅😅🇨🇮🇨🇮
Great video, well done guys on your hard work, there is light at the end of the very long tunnel!! ❤❤❤
The story line is your efforts always lead to more work. 😊 Still it’s fun to watch how you manage. Soldier on.
Life by the inch is a cinch!!!😅
Hello to you two, I think your adventure is wonderful. I would love to send you a little gift. Unfortunately, I don't know your address. I live in Switzerland.
Another really interesting video guys. Rockin the blue pullover Marina.
Thanks so much!
Cheers for watching 😃
Most small businesses in the UK can't be bothered to deal with the hassle of exporting to the EU since Brexit. Businesses in Ireland don't have that problem!
Luckily Ireland have imperial sizes. I just couldn't find the right size on the continent.
We now need to split the rudder...
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Did the water come from the bilge and enter a poorly sealed area and make it's way down into the keel?
We assume...
It was open on the hard/land for 14 years.
We don't have a back story.
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gesundheit! bless ya.
here is a quick metric conversion for Stu. 30ml = 1 Fl Oz, or 2 tablespoons full
. ;)
Great tip, thanks.
Cheers for watching 😃
I wonder if a little dish soap would help by lowering the surface tension and making it easier to drain the liquid out.
Nothing like a quick blowy😂😂
Awesome job guys video was great as always thank you for sharing your story John and marie
Love the video, like all you make. Good luck with the keel; it might take quite a while, but I know you two will get it sorted, you are that ingenious. Can't wait for next week's episode!
Have to agree with @richmelillo , leave it for a while and focus on all the other stuff you have on your plates . Parley just did a really good set of vids on rigging , maybe take a looky . cheers your doing good work .
Problems for a lot of companies delivering to the continent from the UK these days...... It's almost as if there was some major event that split the UK from the rest of Europe.... sorry... I'll get my coat.
Oh...
I was wondering 🤔
I honestly didn't think that.
We got the piece from Ireland.
Selfishly I've got my part, don't mind where it comes from.
Some company got a sale.
But yes, our liberty comes at a price.
Not to get political as I don't live in England.
Cheers for watching 😃
Compressor blow air threw
Why don't you cut a rectangular stripe of glass out of the keel, fix it property, taper the edges sufficiently and reglass it? That may be easier and cheaper and you do not encapsulate water in the laminate.
I find alcohol and a blowy usually work pretty good for me😂
Trying to Hoover water uphill to the hole..... na, Hoover the bottom hole and inject alcohol in the top thus dragging said water out like a colon cleansing ahhhhh
The alcohol isn’t a bad idea as it will evaporate away and take water with it. Someone else suggested acetone, but I don’t know how that would react with the epoxy. Regardless, I think you’re on the right path short of grinding off the bottom of the keel and rebuilding it.
Seems like Stu has become quite comfortable in front of the camera (for the better). He used to be a man of few words.
Thanks. I'm slowly getting there. You'd probably have a different opinion if you met me...
Cheers for watching 😃
Hello, Another interesting video. How do you plan on getting the old shaft out of the rudder and installing the new one? George from Pompano Beach, Florida.
I was waiting with bated breath for keel to lift off to kingdom cum, having filled it with alcohol and adding sparks from vacuum cleaner.
Any remaining alcohol in the void is still an explosive mixture looking for an ignition source .
So anyway we used Staylock
Any good?
We plan to use the swageless fittings.
It would be nice to hear your review.
Cheers for watching 🙂
We used staylock both ends of our rigging excellent product easy to use simple etc withstood many a gale 50 and sixty knot blows believe at the time 28 dollars a piece 38 years ago
Alcohol and a quick blowy solves most everything
Very clickbaity also! Got my attention 😂
first!
Proposal to Purchase or Rent Dry Air Equipment for SEABIRD To the SEABIRD Team, I would like to propose that we consider acquiring dry air equipment, such as a MUNTERS MG 50, to effectively dry the keel and potentially the entire boat in the future when we have access to shore power. Here are some reasons why this would be a beneficial investment: 1. Efficient Drying: Dry air systems, especially professional units like the MUNTERS MG 50, are known for rapidly and effectively drying damp surfaces. This would be highly advantageous in preventing corrosion and damage to the keel and the boat due to moisture. 2. Cost-Effectiveness: By investing in dry air equipment, we can avoid the high costs associated with renting equipment each time we need to dry the boat. Additionally, we can consider purchasing used equipment to further reduce costs. 3. Flexibility: Owning our own dry air equipment provides us with the flexibility to use it at our convenience, without relying on external rental companies. 4. Long-Term Investment: Dry air equipment is not only useful for keel drying but can also be used for boat maintenance and drying as needed. This makes it a long-term investment in the health and longevity of the boat. I propose that we conduct a thorough investigation into available dry air equipment options, including used units, and carefully weigh the costs and benefits before making a decision. Thank you for your attention. Best regards, Tony
Thanks for the advice.
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Fuck all mate, what are you doing putting new holes in the boat 😂😂😂? Normally doing great work ❤ love it! Too funny. Thumbs up 👍
la quille est vachement faïencé . vous allez devoir stratifier une a deux couches avec epoxy .
That's the plan. Fill with resin and glass over. Probably quite a few layers. Better to have to much.
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Ireland and France are both EU, England left that's why they won't ship
Anyone know how to buy from the Amazon wishlist in English? I can switch my Amazon account to France and order, but can’t read French😆…. Evidently the French site does not have an English option. What to do? Is there another app that can accomplish this?
Hi ! To read french it s quite simple .
You can use same method I use to read english
A ) from left to right
B ) from top to the bottom
Rgds fm France 😉
😢 please don’t open sails on sand/gravel or rocks…..a bit harsh
Tarmac is the best option here. There might be a grass field but nowhere nearby.
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I can't believe they're not available middle age women randomly cruising your dry dock hoping to "just strike up a conversation" with Stu... just sayin ❤👍🤦♂️