Rusty Keel & Wet Core... The Gift That Keeps On Giving 😫 | SAILING SEABIRD Ep. 36
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- Rusty Keel & Wet Core... The Gift That Keeps On Giving 😫 | SAILING SEABIRD Ep. 36
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Your channel is growing and the Friday videos are something to look forward to.
17:49 : Ha! My Hoover bags have arrived! And at the right time too. Glad to have made you happy. 😆
Marina, I think the paint, repairs and new windows look great. I know had at the end of the day work can feel disappointing if everything didn't go quite right but in the light of the a day it often doesn't seem so bad. However slowly it feels at times you guys are getting there.
Windows look great, enjoying your videos. Thanks.
Glad you like them!
Cheers for watching 😃
I enjoy your channel very much; in fact it's the only boat repair channel I've ever found that i truly relate to. Back in the day I spent nearly two years restoring a 39' William Hand wooden ketch. Took way longer and cost way more than I thought lol. But I can appreciate what you guys are doing. Thanks for sharing!
Must admit, I’m on the “fill the keel holes and move on” for breakfast club 😅. Once the bottom and it’s hardware are finished it will buoy your spirits, and Stu will be able to put in his rear view mirror. A Distant memory 👍.
Reeeeealy enjoying the Friday video update! Thanks and enjoy your weekend ❤
A very interesting episode this week. You guys are really making progress - it seems like you are going backwards but you're not! Great decision to really attack the keel with some larger holes so you can see what you're dealing with and can soon put the keel work behind you. Keep up the great work
Nice episode, as usual \o/
Glad you enjoy it!
Cheers for watching 😃
Windows are looking fantastic. Hope you're having a good week. Greetings from a very wet, cold and windy Scotland!
Thanks 👍
Seems like a lifetime ago we were doing the windows.
Cheers for watching 🙂
I love your commitment to restore Seabird. I think that by now, you may have a good idea about what needs to be done. Taking on one task after the other will certainly lead you to success, and make the boat your new floating home.
Quote of the week "you can't taste rust can you?" Thanks for the video, look forward to it every week. Kev
It's like as the ole saying goes, when you have a huge project, it's like eating a elephant one bite at a time. Eventually, You's will get there and when it's done you'll have a beautiful boat that you can use for decades to come.
Bye the way you's two are becoming one of my favorite channels to watch and I look forward to seeing what you both get done each and every week. So thanks for showing us all the hard work!
You never fail to impress the jobs on the windows and deck are superb you should be so proud of yourself 😊
Thanks so much! 😊
Marina is great at fibreglass jobs.
Cheers for watching 😃
Great videos , best regards 😊
Marina you are fantastic ! Your commentries are the best. Hope all goes well. Keep on sanding.
Thank you so much!
Boat boat is 90% sanding.
Cheers for watching 😃
Suggestion on drying out the interior of the keel. Drill a hole the size of the exterior of you vacuum (hoover) hose. Attach one end of the hose to the exhaust of the vacuum and the other to the hole in the keel. Turn the vacuum on and force the air through the keel and out through all the holes you've already drilled. This may take about 8 hours but it should help to dry the interior of the keel. Then I'd inject liquid epoxy into the top holes first and when it starts running out the bottom side holes tape off the hole. By filling from top to bottom it should encapsulate the steel that is rusting inside. By sealing it from both water and air it can't rust any more.
good job!!
Thanks!
Cheers for watching 😃
19:50 I heard an owl sound :) Hu huuuv hu . Hu huuuuv hu :)
Take a roll of masking tape, attach one end to a table, or anything, pull out a length of tape, roll your new rollers up and down the sticky side, it will remove all the fluff from the factory. Love the videos.👍
Great tip!
We've found the sponge rollers work best.
Cheers for watching 😃
Can't wait to see the rudder come apart and be rebuilt. The primer more than passes the GoPro test of quality. Love the laid back nature of your videos.
Fingers crossed on the primer.
Cheers for watching 😃
Looking good 👍
The weather looked very hot where you guys are, I amazed you got as much done as you did, BTW, the paint job looks very good. As usual great work guys, I loved the content, keep up the great work, it will all be worth it in the end.
Rusty Keel will be the name of my next child :) I love your content, keep at it guys!!!
We will!
Lots more to come.
Cheers for watching 😃
Great job
its starting to take shape, nice job on the windows 👏
Have a blessed week. Thanks for sharing your hard work.
Thank you! You too!
Cheers for watching 😃
Great video!
Great work
Looking good
The painting is really beautibul. I hope the wet parts of the boat will end very soon.
Keep up the good work guys 🏴👍
Thank you for the encouragement.
We are getting excited about having a floor.
Cheers for watching 😃
Me gustan tanto sus videos autenticas y con buen humor siempre.
Before you use the Nap hair roller... always run it up and down a roll of masking tape.. I stand on one end and hold the other end in hand.. approximately 3 ft.. roll back and forth...
Windows look great! Nice job.
Glad you like them!
Cheers for watching 😃
YALL ARE SAILING FOOLS!!!
I am glad you show everything - the great work being completed and when you find something new to add to your list to be done. Its work which you will be so satisfied with when its all finished, so keep going and can't wait for the next installment. Well done Stu and Marina. 😊
Thanks so much for your kind words.
Cheers for watching 😃
As you both can see I’m up to this EP and I’ve watched all of them so far 🤗 What a incredible journey. I’m loving it. You two spin me out… This is the best TH-cam channel I’ve seen and I’m watching. I don’t know if it’s The bin man or The dancing lady ?? But it’s great stuff 👍👍👍👍 But no jokes the work you both are doing is great to watch and you both just don’t give up that’s what keeps me watching 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Welcome aboard!
Thanks for the encouragement.
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Hello, your progress is great. Keep going ❤❤❤
Thank you so much!
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well done girl!!!! Up to 50k ! a nice adventure!!
Thank you!!
We are a long way off...
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I hope you are not planning to match the diamond non-slip pattern! I built powerboats for over 20 years and I always hated it when the design staff used the diamond pattern. It's virtually impossible to repair and match the original pattern. If you have not already made the decision to do so, I STRONGLY recommend that you sand all the diamond pattern non-slip flat, mask off the areas, and lay down a sand finish non-slip. It can be easily done by mixing gelkote, or whatever you finish coat will be with readily available materials made specifically for the purpose.
Enjoyed the live chat the other day guys and always enjoy watching your progress.
Saturdays (for me) are now special because I have your videos to watch!
Rust might be from the iron punching in the concrete ballast?
I think you could try to dry the keel using a vacuum pump. To do this, you need to close all the holes (can be temporarily) leaving only on the top of keel open. Insert a fitting into this top hole to connect to the pump and pump air out from the keel. Since the lower the pressure is, the lower the boiling temperature of the water will be inside the keel and therefore the water inside in keel will begin to boil at ambient temperature. If outside temperature is not high enough, you can wrap a cheap electric heated blanket around the keel. Just don't forget to put a container to collect water before pump so that the spilling water does not get into the pump. You can use a vacuum chamber for it and also you can insert another fitting in it to connect to the keel. As soon as the pressure inside the keel stops growing, it will be a signal that all the water has boiled out. Then you could use the same pump to fill the keel with epoxy. To do that you would need to make another hole in the bottom of the keel and fill epoxy through this bottom hole while pumping out the air through the top hole. Just make sure you pump out the air first before pushing the epoxy inside, it will help to better distribute the epoxy inside the keel. If you have questions, please let me know.
You could use dry nigrogen gas gently passing through but you would need to ventilate internally if staying on board or better still decamp to a different sleeping place. Personally I am of the leave it well alone and let it dry out via the same path it wetted.
TGIF 🎉. Your videos make Friday fun. I was happy to see you getting presents! It would be great to have more on your Amazon wish list to keep you happy! 😊
Great idea!!
We are happy you enjoy our adventure.
Cheers for watching 😀
New rollers, wet and scrape them with a wire brush to get rid of most of the fluff.
Wire brush might be a bit harsh.
Cheers for watching 😀
Stu seemed very happy wandering around with his shaft in hand 😂
Watching the section on the keel is familiar. I had patches of my encapsulated keel which had become delaminated. I drilled in these areas and like you came across fluid with sand and rust. The sand comes from a fairly weak cement mix which is used as a bedding for a cast iron ballast core which is the source of the rust. It was clear that the keel wasn't going to dry without getting a lot of hot dry air into it so I took the top off my encapsulated keel underneath the cabin sole and exposed a network of voids between the cast iron core and the grp sides of the keel. On the sides of the keel, I ground out the delaminated areas which resulted in some pretty big holes some of which were the size of small plates right through to the ballast. I left the keel for several months allowing it really dry out. The sides were then laid up, faired and barrier coated. The voids in the keel were filled from the top with multiple pours of a slow curing epoxy. Using a hammer I tracked areas of the keel as it changed from tapping hollow to solid. Any remaining voids were filled using syringes from holes drilled in the side of the keel (boxes of 100 syringes can be purchased cheaply from Amazon). The keel is now dry and solid.
Stuart rusting steel expands when encapsulated with concreate and I would assume that the rust colour you have there is an indication that you may have concreate blow out occurring...how far along it is is anyone's guess and it may even have aided the delamination of the glass. I think at some point you are going to have to cut out a section of the glass to see what's happening with the concreate behind it , maybe the area where the rust colour appeared at first , if the concreate is moist through then no amount of pissy little holes is going to dry it out...rust blow out and delamination will continue , you can repair rust blow out in concreate it's not that difficult but only IF you address it.
yeah , don`t get as much water out of it as you can and sail a barge . carry on carrying on my friends
The orcas off the Iberian Peninsula are getting skillful at disabling rudders with biting and ramming. It seems to be the only place where the problem exists. Rudder construction could be improved with metal instead of fiberglass. Design with hinge points at top and bottom would make sturdier orca resistance. It could be advantageous to reinforce the fiberglass inside where the rudder shaft enters the hull being prone to cracking when rammed by orcas. Sometimes the damage results in sinking.
Progress is being made! I thought about welding and polishing out that rudder shaft, but I didn't think you'd have the welder to do that,and by the time you paid someone in France to do the work, you'd be about halfway to the rudder post cost, and down several days of labor. It's a judgement call, and really I don't think you could have made a wrong decision on that.
We were hoping we could save the rudder shaft.
But, no. Better to rebuild with a new shaft.
Cheers for watching 😃
I see you removed the gelcoat , remember the epoxy ‘barrier paint’ is not designed to be a replacement for gelcoat but an additional protection for gelcoat.
You should probably coat with a layer or 2 of epoxy and fiberglass cloth , then layers of epoxy resin before the barrier coat.
Cheers Warren
Warren,
We plan to fibreglass the keel once repaired.
Then, there is a barrier coat or two.
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@@SailingSeabird Very good! I knew you had this covered! You think about little else🤣👍
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Well done the work is coming on well nice to see the new rudder post see you next week 😊😊
Looks like you’re starting to “cross” jobs off the list now 😃 and I agree with Stuart keeping tools around in case you need them . Last year I used a bearing puller that I bought about 35 years ago , to actually pull a bearing off an induction motor shaft 😃🤣🍻
Absolutely!
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Nice job on the windows mate ,top job good luck with all ya repairs week coming 👍🤙🤙🤙
Thanks 👍
Some weeks are more productive than others.
Cheers for watching 😀
Your doing a great job,don't be so hard on yourself
Love watching your sailboat dreams come alive. !
Hi, there's some information on the web which suggests the keel of early '70s Gulfstar 41 is filled with iron chunks embedded in concrete. I thought you already knew... There is no lead inside, just iron and cement. Which explains both the rust and the sand, and it also may interfere with your moisture meter. I think drying it up completely may be impossible. Unfortunately, I'm not familiar with sailboats apart from watching some TH-cam channels 😅, so I have no good advice - maybe you should keep to Jack's opinion and leave it like it was 🙂Apparently, he got away with it 😉Apart from that ongoing problem: You two are doing a great job! It's a pleasure watching your videos and seeing you steadily fixing + upgrading your home! You are awesome! ❤
..... you state a concern of having content .... in some of your videos you share clips of adventures you get on. Capturing surrounding areas when out on your bike or day excursions gives you practice getting content from not only boat jobs for when you splash and set sail for new horizons .... love your videos and mighty impressed with your outcome of all the primmered repairs. .... something I saw Bret and Jade use when they were doing all the sanding on the inside of their boat was what I will call a vortex bucket that goes in-line between the nozzle and the vacuum thus not all the dust ends up in the vac-bag. Stuart could build one with a 5 gallon pail and lid, 90 degree plumbing elbow the size of vac hose for the in side for the hole in the lid closest to the rim and a second hole in the middle of the lid that is home to the hose that goes to the vacuum ... things sure are coming along nicely ... thx for the share .... as always .... never stop dreaming, just dream bigger .. have fun be safe, save our oceans .....
Stay positive and keep going 🎉🎉
Good to see Stuart's guns lifting the rudder shaft. Lol
Looking good! One job after the other, over time there is so much progree visible...
Top Job!
Thanks!
Cheers for watching 😃
You both are doing very well 😃😃
You can't taste rust, can you? 😂🤣
Love you guys
Nice video. More bricks in the wall 😉👍
I really like the way you guys make your videos. Great channel. 🎉
I recommend keeping the keel-water-tasting sessions down a bit. After all, there is lead in the keel. Great video, as always!
I have to agree with Jack. You are never going to get all the water out of the keel, especially since it appears to have come in from the outside. Dry it out as best you can, seal it up, glass the keel and move on.
5:25 drill, baby, drill!!
Another very nice video, much appreciated!
A thought / question or two on the keel issue…
Thinking sonogram of the keel might reveal issues if the material inside is degraded..or malformations. Just a thought
Just want you guys to be safe and no future issues down the road.
Again .. love the stuff your doing !!
Good question!
Patch it up. Go sailing, test if its ok.
Try not to over think it.
I doubt "Cooks" bilge was dry.
Cheers for watching 😃
Boats with balsa wood or foam cores are prone to rot.
Cheers guys! Seems you really need an old caravan to live in behind the boat, it’s looking too difficult to try the rebuild her and actually live on her, YES! I still think it’s possible to rebuild her, I’m just thinking “this isn’t going to go quickly” would be nice if you could separate a clean dry comfortable place to live, some degree of luxury, and then go to work on her without being forced to clean up enough to live in? I have no idea if the yard allows that?
We wish for that too.
Cheers for watching 😀
Excellent video, you guys have come a long way since you bought it. 50,000 will be a big milestone with subscribers……any mud you can jump in to celebrate ?
Saw off the whole side like a lid, sand both surfaces clean and wash clean with acetone. Plan epoxy fler and apply on both outsides and press back the lid / Lids. Grind out the joint and laminate.
Grear job guys 👍
You both are doing a brilliant job...always enjoy your vids
you both work so hard great video again
Keep the faith!
Hi Guys. Great job on the Keel Stu. Hard work though but your doing great and looking good. Keep it up guys 😅 🇨🇮🇨🇮
another great video. really looking forwards to your progres. great that you stay positive
The primer looks good. Please do a video next week even if it is only a short one.
What if yo reverse the air flow on the vacuum and blow it into the large keel hole you drilled and make it warm air maybe it would evaporate and force moisture out the other holes ?..
50k here we go!!!! come on people subscribe!!!!!
Friday with new Video :-) I'm happy. Last week i looked all your old videos starting from Solent going through the canals. I'm very interested in canal videos because i plan to go from Hamburg through canals to Donau and Black Sea. Because of Rhine current i need to go throuhg river Maas, French channels Nancy, Straßburg an then Rhine downwards to Main. Keep on going :-) I'll continue watching...
Cool but you should put out more vids each week.Ha
Love watching them thank you .
Rory
Hello there!
Damn! Your project is an undertaking, but I love it. Keep that channel growing!
(Which moisture meter are you using?) 👍🏻⛵️⛵️⛵️
Very nice job, you're almost a pro, when you have got all these new skills you hopefully newer have to use them again, other than for good advice, and the bragging rights.
Great video! Every little thing you do moves the project forward. 😎 We had a similar problem with our rollers disintegrating whilst priming and switched to mohair rollers. So far, so good. 😎😎😎👍❤️
Try compressed air from the top down. Blast 100 psi. into the space. Mabey if you pour alcohol into the top, then blow it through with air out the bottom. Just a thought.
Slow and steady
You can get a vacuum pump connect it on hole, it will suck out all moisture from in side faster
Guys, the fact that there’s water is still in the keel indicates to me that the hull is/was watertight and it’s the remains of the internal flooding with rainwater. The drying will therefore happen from within over time. The metal of the keel is inevitably going to have corrode somewhat in the presence of that water. Seal it back up and take a chill pill😂
Make sure that the rudder shaft is bonded to the rudder hull penetration to prevent the same crevice corrosion to the new shaft over its next 40 years. 😂
Our thoughts exactly.
Thanks for being a voice of reason.
Cheers as always for watching our videos.
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Sounds right. Well sealed, that boat will float.
Suggestion on drying out the interior of the keel. Drill a hole in the side of the keel near the top the size of the
could you tell us the length and beam of the vessel??
Hiya.
I think it's 12.5m x 3.7m (41ft)
A bit of an upgrade from our last boat.
Cheers for watching 😃
I dont speak anglish but (vous êtes très courageux et vous allez réussir Bravo !!!!)
FIRST
Yay!
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Don't know if it would be worth it, but they make rust converter, it basically turns rust into primer, if you drill enough holes to spray it inside and let it run down the keel, you may get enough in to stop the rust.