Mansell, the Lion who roared and whined

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  • @ChonsKhonshu
    @ChonsKhonshu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    my first word ever was Mansell. my father still holds it against me.

  • @johndonaldson3619
    @johndonaldson3619 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Thank you. You have a pleasant evenly paced tone and your scripts are crisp, well researched and very engaging.

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much, glad you're enjoying the videos

  • @Old_Catholic
    @Old_Catholic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I started watching F1 in the early 90s and I can't tell you how grateful I am that Nigel didn't retire in 90. How boring would F1 have been without someone to take the battle up to Ayrton Senna in 91 and 92.

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed, though I think he should have stayed for 1993 - the Williams was better suited to his style than Prost's and he may well have put one over him to payback for 1990

    • @philipjamesparsons
      @philipjamesparsons 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WhenF1WasReal I think Mansell, would have defeated himself, as he did at Ferrari in 1990. Cesare Fiorio, said the Ferrari team did not care for Prost, or his political style as his eventual sacking showed. They did like il leone, who was more their style. Yet Mansell, believed Ferrari, were backing Prost. Still, paranoid Nigel vs Prost in a 93 Williams would have been toxic fun.

  • @lestercombs1871
    @lestercombs1871 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have to say that as an American, Manzell was damn impressive while racing in CART.

  • @smokeybirdman
    @smokeybirdman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Mansel, Piquet, Prost and Senna - definitely the greatest era of F1

  • @tonystrainsofrugby
    @tonystrainsofrugby 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Jasper Carrott once said "Nigel Mansell, he's potentially the most exciting man in the world until he speaks!" which is quite an appropriate description I'd say....
    I think the moment the penny dropped for me was when he came to do the BTCC TOCA Shootout at Donington in 93. For a rarity we got to hear his team radio as we didn't hear it in F1 back then and the moaning was there for all to see.... but that was nothing compared to the torrent of abuse and scorned he heaped upon Tiff Needell for being an innocent bystander in Mansell's over exuberant driving eventually getting the better of him to the point where Needell defended himself saying "why should I apologise to Nigel? He hasn't apologised to ME for ruining MY race!"

    • @heliumtrophy
      @heliumtrophy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That just reminds me of Tiff's commentary on the Le Mans game on the PS1 "WHAT IS HE DOING? Aggressive driving takes its toll!" It certainly did then

  • @vincentsouchaud6717
    @vincentsouchaud6717 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    15:50 "When I saw Nigel's car had stopped, I nearly came". Nelson Piquet, 1991 Canadian GP post-race press conference. Great video as always!

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's no question Piquet enjoyed Mansell's failure

    • @intheclarts
      @intheclarts หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lol, so did i

  • @ingopaul67
    @ingopaul67 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    No one could argue that on his day Nigel was the fastest, bravest, most exciting driver of the mid 80s to early 90s. Oh, did i mention the best overtaker in the business. Yes i am a massive fan.

    • @lestercombs1871
      @lestercombs1871 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He didn’t have enough of those days.

  • @joshualamp2438
    @joshualamp2438 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    As an American my first introduction to F1 was Mansell, so I’m a big fan.

    • @MrSpanks
      @MrSpanks 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      As an 8YO kid in the late 80's, Mansell grabbed my attention and has left me with a love of F1 (and motorsport in general)! So much so, I prefer to ignore the negative aspects of his personality!

  • @philipjamesparsons
    @philipjamesparsons 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Nigel was electric on a charge but toxic off the track. My favourite memory was Brazil '89. First race for the flappy paddle, unreliable Ferrari. Stormed off in the lead, car broke and pitted for rubber and a new steering wheel. Charged back to first and then cut his hands on the winners trophy; breaking down in agony. Mansell was drama all the way.

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Great in the car, not so much out of it. On his day one of the best in the world

    • @philipjamesparsons
      @philipjamesparsons 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@WhenF1WasReal In that ‘92 Williams, I do not believe any driver would have beaten him, including Senna. No power assistance in the steering needed a man of massive strength and that was Mansell. For a a bloke who seemed to do most of his training on the golf course and often sat on the podium in sweat, I don’t how he became such a brute; but he was good at martial arts. Peter Warr, said Mansell was tougher on cars than other drivers, because components would give out before his arms.

  • @GrandPrixDecals
    @GrandPrixDecals 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    The more I have learned about Mansell the more I like Piquet and Prost, I like all of them. But the British media demonised 2 of the 3

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The British media do seem to come very close to jingoism when it comes to sports of all flavours, although my experience is that the media in most other countries are nearly as biased

    • @intheclarts
      @intheclarts หลายเดือนก่อน

      James said Piquet should retire in 1987. A few months later he won the title again :)

  • @smilerwithagun
    @smilerwithagun 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    These career retrospectives are excellent.
    👍

  • @heliumtrophy
    @heliumtrophy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I generally don't hold too high an opinion of Mansell myself but I cannot argue that he was an absolute darling of British F1 fans (and Italian when he went to Ferrari) - his incessant whingeing might be nothing in comparison to what we hear today but it wasn't helped by his thick-as...droning Brummie accent - which got to a point where he infuriated Patrick Head to such a degree that Patrick snapped back "For fuck sake Nigel, I don't care now piss off and drive," before unplugging the comms. In a way though, it's these stories of Mansell along with that glorious Peter Warr statement that make me wish to have either been a fly on the wall when it was said or that there was video evidence just for how colourful they are in comparison to how monotonously corporate they are today. Still Dernie's waspish comments say everything about Mansell, the man who wants all the glory with no thought to "the buggers" that put him there. I'm no fan of Piquet but I appreciate that he went the hard miles to help the team and then some so I understand how he could rightly feel pissed off. I could go on but while he certainly liked to put on a show, those theatrics came with a major downside.

  • @A.Santos1
    @A.Santos1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    16:00 Monza, 1991: The Magician, The Lion and The Professor.

  • @soonerlon
    @soonerlon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was always liked Mario's comment that "Ronnie Peterson was my best teammate and Nigel Mansell was my worst. Oh how it rings true....

  • @rogerjohnson6676
    @rogerjohnson6676 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The most honest analysis of drivers I've ever heard. Thanks for the wonderful insights and excellent productions.

  • @rossrreyes
    @rossrreyes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    At 56 yrs old I remember these 4, Mansell, Prost, Senna and Piquet, as maximum whiners. Always complaining that it was everyone’s else’s fault for their respective failures. They make the last 15+ years of F1 drivers look like angels

    • @mikespearwood3914
      @mikespearwood3914 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Max & Lewis always whinging about stuff. Max is possibly the worst of the current lot though.

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I wonder what drivers of the seventies and eighties would have been like if miked up for races. I imagine James Hunt's radio would have been 100% unbroadcastable.

    • @heliumtrophy
      @heliumtrophy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mikespearwood3914 But those 4 mic'd up would make Max and Lewis seem to be having amicable disputes.

  • @fluffyfour
    @fluffyfour 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Mansell got me interested in F1, which continues to this day. My overriding memory is of him being assisted to the podium in Monaco 1992. It made me realise how physical the sport is, as well as its mental requirements. At the time, British drivers were not as prevalent. It wouldn't surprise me if some of today's British drivers were inspired by him. He looked like a cross between Lord Lucan and an accountant, but it belied both the talent and the drama. Generally however, people don't get to the top of F1 by being 'nice', so I can forgive him a lot for reviving British hopes at a time when the country went swiftly from Boom to Bust. Thank you Nigel.

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      His performance in those last eight laps at Monaco drew much comment from his peers, who questioned his tactics behind Senna, coating his tyres in marbles and dirt with each feint off line, on a circuit where there are only two viable passing places - into Ste Devote or the chicane. By flinging his car around in Senna's mirrors he compromised his chances of ever overtaking. There was also much comment about the drama at the end, let's say that many thought it to be overblown or completely amateur dramatics. On his day though he was the irresistible force

    • @kekepiket9153
      @kekepiket9153 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@WhenF1WasReal Interesting opinion. Mansell was always dramatics, for good or worse . Take Mexico 1990 , fantastic overtake, however, there would be no need for it , if he did not go off the road letting Berger near him before .

  • @rogerjohnson6676
    @rogerjohnson6676 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve obviously watched this before, but it’s an excellent analysis of Mr Mansell.
    Enjoy all your productions.

  • @Craft-oh7uv
    @Craft-oh7uv 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Mansell did not I repeat did not brake check Senna in Australia. Mansell was going for a race record of 9 wins Senna out of sherr spite take him out.

  • @timnetherton727
    @timnetherton727 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Very enjoyable video - thank you ☺️

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you, glad you enjoyed it

  • @briankay4713
    @briankay4713 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love your channel .....my favourite F1 one on here .....
    Your videos are well researched ...crisply narrated and the photographs used are just stunning ..
    Well done ...keep it up ...

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, will do my best to keep the quality high

  • @AJ-Bruno
    @AJ-Bruno 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Enjoyable videos, thank you!

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your kind words and support

  • @outfield1988
    @outfield1988 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mansell and Rosberg were amazing. 1984 was a awesome F1 year.

  • @OffendingTheOffendable
    @OffendingTheOffendable 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I forgot about Elf. Benson and Hedges were very expensive

  • @infraredsprouts2073
    @infraredsprouts2073 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Adrian Newey says he is the fastest driver over one lap and can make hard to drive cars look easy

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He's someone who really should know. Although in the past, without all the telemetry which modern cars provide, it was much harder for anybody to really know what was happening corner to corner and between drivers

  • @deanothemanc5281
    @deanothemanc5281 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Balls to the wall red 5!!On his day he was world class, however he was prone to costly mistakes, even bordering on reckless at times. However he was a brilliant out and out racer, plus he competed and won in one of f1s most competitive eras. 🎉. Hes a legend in my book, albeit slightly flawed.

  • @OffendingTheOffendable
    @OffendingTheOffendable 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Sounds like me always complaining

    • @heliumtrophy
      @heliumtrophy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I complain a lot as well but the only thing a complainer hates is another complainer complaining!

  • @terryjacob8169
    @terryjacob8169 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mansell: the driver no team was sorry to see the back of.

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, he seemed to have that talent in spades - upsetting the people he worked with

  • @OffendingTheOffendable
    @OffendingTheOffendable 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im not even a racing fan😂 but I enjoy the voice

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your kind words and support

  • @detonator2112
    @detonator2112 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He had absolutely TERRIBLE track record against teammates.
    Nigel Mansell Vs His Teammates Race Head to Head ( Unreliability and Unluck Corrected)
    Mansell Vs Andretti (1980) - 0-3
    Mansell Vs De Angelis (1980) - 1-2
    Mansell Vs De Angelis (1981) - 5-8
    Mansell Vs De Angelis (1982) - 4-8
    Mansell Vs De Angelis (1983) - 4-11
    Mansell Vs De Angelis (1984) - 5-11
    Mansell Vs K Rosberg (1985) - 5-10
    Mansell Vs Piquet (1986) - 8-8
    Mansell Vs Piquet (1987) - 9-3
    Mansell Vs Patrese (1988) - 9-4
    Mansell Vs Berger (1989) - 7-5
    Mansell Vs Prost (1990) - 5-9
    Mansell Vs Patrese (1991) - 10-6
    Mansell Vs Patrese (1992) - 12-4
    Mansell Vs Hill (1994) - 1-3
    Mansell Vs Hakkinen (1995) - 0-2
    Overall - 84-95 ( Mansell, Andretti and De Angelis were together teammates in 1980, and they raced in Austria, Netherlands and Italy, where he was outperformed in all races by them except in Netherlands where De Angelis crashed. Since Mansell outperformed one of them in that season, I've given 1-2 overall for him that year).

  • @jasonrushton5991
    @jasonrushton5991 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good piece, could of been 93-94-95 & then let Damon & Jaque have 96 & 97 ;-)

  • @outfield1988
    @outfield1988 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nigel was so awesome.

  • @brentritchie6199
    @brentritchie6199 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mansell and Hamilton have similar personalities it is just that Hamilton is slightly smarter and people seem to love him.

  • @johnhill7058
    @johnhill7058 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For those who go gaga over Senna, watch how our Nigel handled things.

  • @Enevan1968
    @Enevan1968 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TBH, I never heard or read anything about Mansell being good at setting up the cars. Senna yes, Prost Yes, Schumacher yes... but Mansell no.

  • @thethirdman225
    @thethirdman225 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When he was at Lotus de Angelis was usually faster.

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not just De Angelis, but aside from one season at Ferrari in 1989 and one at Williams in 1992, his team mates were all usually faster.

    • @thethirdman225
      @thethirdman225 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@WhenF1WasReal I'll admit I'm not unbiased. I always liked de Angelis and never liked Mansell. Under Chapman it always seemed to me that Mansell was getting preferential treatment, despite de Angelis being IMHO, a better driver (and by all accounts, a better bloke).

  • @intheclarts
    @intheclarts หลายเดือนก่อน

    Piquet and Prost always got on well, lazy bit there

  • @johnhill7058
    @johnhill7058 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ..."since James Hunt's last world championship in 1976". ???!!!

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      First, last and only... I think I meant to say when James Hunt last won the World Championship in 1976

  • @CarolCraig-lf5vo
    @CarolCraig-lf5vo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    He did more whingeing than roaring he fancied himself as a match for senna he was never in the same league

    • @WhenF1WasReal
      @WhenF1WasReal  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      All things considered no, but he did occasionally match and surpass those around him - including Senna and Prost

  • @F1Guy-Guy
    @F1Guy-Guy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The main problem for Nigel Mansell is that Hamilton guy has well over shadowed him by being the GOAT from Britain Hammer Time