A Lancia 037 rally car modified to race against top of the line japanese GT cars. What's next, a NASCAR cup car modified to race against top of the line european GT cars? Wait...
Was the nascar a Taurus??? Cause fun fact I think at the time it was (not the nascar) but a global car. Like the mondeo/contour. Which is also in Gran turismo 1-2
Entering a kit car replica into a GT championship is like trying out for a professional football team as some guy from Glasgow who _looks_ like David Beckham.
I only know of the GT500 037 because of the GT2 A-Spec mod. I remember talking to the devs about it and they basically said >joins gt500 with barely any modifications >severely underpowered >sucks ass >does a single race >refuses to elaborate >leaves
I remembered getting two of them to appear in the Italian regional event and laughing at how dogwater they were compared to the other cars. What legends
Holy crap I didn't even know the 037 went on as a GT1 car 🤣 if it's "fundamentally the same" as the rally car, I wonder how the rollcage situation was handled-
My dad took a photo of the ADA Pantera at Le Mans, he hanged the photo over his bench in the garage and always said that it was one of the most beautiful race car ever made...
I think you're the first youtuber to talk about MiG M100 in a documentary format. I've seen this car when I was researching to recreate the 1993 24H of LeMans on assetto corsa, and saw the M100 and it's poor results. I am so glad that someone actually talked about these very forgotten GT1 gems, Harrier, Mosler and their Raptor GT1, the 037 "GT1", etc. More racing games need more cars like these, so they can have at least some type of recognition. Then again... licensing will be a big issue for some of these cars and brands.
As modders I guess many of us would have loved to recreate these - but information is just so impossible to get. Even just photos that are not blurry scans. As these did also not end up in museums we can't even go and take them ourselves 😢
There is another obscure car you needed to mention and that is the Bitter GT1. Because the Bitter GT1 actually started out life as a factory Elise GT1. Mike Hezemans which was a former Dutch factory racing driver decided to fix the car of it's problems. His father Toine, owned the 2 former Elise GT1 chassis and with 2 mechanics Peter Classen and Mario van Beek, they reworked the car and replaced the Chevy V8 with a Chrysler 8.0 V10. The car was branded a Bitter in order to make it compliant for the FIA GT championship. Hezeman's friend Erich Bitter which was an independent German car maker agreed to brand the car a Bitter. That is the story in short
This and the early days of British GT which also featured some hilarious homebuilds and some cars that just straight up werent GT cars at all, are great video ideas
The stratos was apparently a replica known as a corsa according to the commentator in one of the commentators and also raced in the GTO category in the 2000 British GT Championship. I think in 1997 it was in the GT3 class
ROSSO 037!!11!!1!1!! WHAT IS A GOOD QUALIFYING TIME i love slow jgtc cars so much, this, the eimei mirage, the advance auto camaro, the sifo spider, all my beloved im also really happy you talked about the sintura s99, the story of its homoligation might be even funnier than the toyota gtone's "fuel tank"
Aw, no mention of the Vector M12? That was my favourite in Sports Car GT and about the closest the Lamborghini Diablo (my actual favourite car) came to being used in GT Racing. Having said this, the M12 was in GT-2 - I just used it in GT-1 because I wanted it to win! Some seriously beautiful cars in GT racing in the 90s though - my favourite Mustang - the Saleen one seen in this video, the best Viper (and the sound it makes will make your hairs stand on end!), Ferrari F355s with the coolest painted-white 5 Spoke rims ever (OZ rims), the F40 GTE/LM, the Esprit V8 still with its pop-up headlights and those GT-2 Porsche 911s with the strip rear light. The 90s really was peak hypercar and I reckon it drove this racing series and vice versa. I'd watch races to will the best-looking car to win - I had no interest in the drivers! This and the multiple races in one race were two reasons I much preferred GT racing over F1 (even back then, when it was still worth watching).
the Sintura GT1 was purchased by David Dicker in New Zealand who owns Rodin Motorsport who compete in formula 2 and 3. They have since made another version using 3d printed titanium for some of the engine parts and lots of other mechanics on the car. It made its international return at world time attack this year, held at Sydney Motorsport Park.
learnt something insanely cool. Rodin cars brough the Sintura in the early 2000s and along with the car mentioned here recieved a spare chassis and the moldings for the body. To celebrate the 25th anniversary of it, they've built a new Sintura using their own 4l NA V10, that chassis and the bodywork molds alongside a ton of in house engineering and its running at World Time Attack currently. Reading their press comments it appears they plan to put the Sintura into production but i assume it'll be a track day special rather than ever getting a true road car. For context on Rodin, they're a New Zeeland based engineering firm building engines, continuing on the Lotus T125 project with their own upgrades, building a no rules single seater and attempted to join F1 in a partnership with Carlin but were denied by the FIA so they've got some serious engineering capablity and no doubt could build these from the ground up to sell
Fun fact: The current owner of the Sintura S99 is none other than David Dicker, founder of Rodin Cars and Rodin Motorsport. It likely inspired his FZERO hypercar project.
“A true golden age for sports car racing” Yk, I think there’s a case to be made for the current HyperCar regulations in WEC/IMSA to be considered a golden age in endurance/sports car racing, but few games if at all feature them. The Cadillac GTP, the Ferrari 499P, the new Toyota, hell even Isotta Fraschini could be just as iconic as the Mclaren F1, or the CLK GTR and so on. If only a game like Gran Turismo included a full HyperCar roster in their games, or Forza, or anyone
Well,the Cadillac and Porsche (as a DLC)are already in the newest Forza Motorsport (but classed alongside the LMP1,so they are kind of outclassed) while the Toyota is most likely to appear first on GT than Forza (just like the GR86 or the GR Yaris). But I agree that the Hypercar class isn't complete anywhere(outside of LeMans Ultimate) and more games should try to add them, just like with the GT1s.
@@DerpShermanI mean, it doesn’t need to be complete like Le Mans Ultimate, but a game that features at least… say like 4 or 5 of them. (For example: Toyota, Ferrari, Porsche, Cadillac and BMW) would be a good start. I know licensing is a pain (especially when it comes to Ferrari as I’ve heard) and modeling a car in todays graphical standards might be even more of a pain, especially when it comes to Gran Turismo. But there’s a golden opportunity here and both PD and T10 just seem to be missing the mark
That's kinda funny with the 037 - it was originally derived from a Group 5 track car called the Beta Montécarlo Turbo - although that had wider wheels and box arches for them to stick out further under. Kinda went full circle only without getting all of its track parts back.
The Sintura is now in Gran Turismo... sort of. It's been added as part of the A-Spec mod for Gran Turismo 2. Also the Porsche 962C is a GT1 car, and you can't prove me wrong on that.
From the last clip, Mega's history is very varied and rather bizarre - as well as their supercar-that-never-was and that Mega Trak thing (that looks and with that name sounds like a full-size Tonka toy) they were also well known for building tiny economy cars of the kind legal for 16-year-olds to drive in France on a moped licence, and favoured by elderly drivers elsewhere, some being known as Aixam-Mega. And just to add an even stranger element, one of those small cars formed the basis of the Mega Glace ice racing car, which was a little mid-engined four-wheel steering rocket which won the Trophée Andros title in 1994 driven by Francois Chauche.
The Mosler entries are so unusual, ugly as hell but strangely charming to me at the same time. The Raptor GT1 though did look a lot better than the road car with those aero modifications for the front end. The Harriers on the other hand are fantastic looking, it's a real pity they're mostly forgotten considering how well they could perform. The LR9 in particular looks really good and stands out without necessarily being unusually styled. The Quaife is also an extremely good looking car and reminds me a bit of a Noble (kinda like the M600), also interesting as both brands use Ford engines (although Noble use V6s). Definitely ahead of its time and very impressive for a drivetrain manufacturer who don't build or design cars normally. It was also a cool idea to run it as a 4WD but obviously not particularly effective, I'm glad they've kept both of them alive and on display too. The Sintura also looks ahead of its time, reminds me a lot of the Toyota GT-One in terms of appearance. Massive pity it ended its life due to funding, a proper road version would've been pretty insane too. The Renault Sport Spyder V6 looks super chunky, the short-wheelbase just makes it look quite damn fat lol. I do love it as an idea though and it's definitely a very interesting change from the standard model, also an interesting choice of engine. I do prefer the original design though than the slight redesign of the Helem models. I'd never actually heard of the MiG models so that's definitely a cool one to find out about. My favourite is between the Quaife and the Harriers, I think I'll have to give it to Quaife because it's a more interesting project and looks better imo
Me and another friend recently got into various motorsports. As soon as we found out that the 037 raced in the jgtc we were fucking rolling on the ground laughing at it, just thinking it would've probably destroyed the Diablo
I only discovered through your video that i had one of the MIG Buragos as a child in the 90s. The 90s were wild in terms of concept cars and supersport prototypes..
Again you've managed to educate me on obscure racing stories. When you think, you've seen them all, Roflwaffle pulls one out of his hat. That Mosler Raptor looks like the lovechild of a Turismo Carretera car and a 2003 - 2016 Daytona Prototype. An absolute abomination!
Well,since you mentioned Turismo Carretera, there was a time (during the 60s and early 70s) where prototypes were allowed to run in the category, something like the Raptor could have been part if the Prototype ruleset wasn't dropped.(Clearly not the Mosler Raptor itself,but something along these lines)
MCA Centenaire mention!!! I remember having a Bbruago diecast model of it as a kid, and it always remained in a small, tidy corner of my childhood memories. Sadly, the model car itself left my house about 15 years ago, probably during one of my many spring cleanings that consisted of sorting out old toys, among which were hundreds of diecast toy cars.
I can think of 4 pretty rare unknown GT 's you missed Bitter GT1 that had a chrysler V10 from1998, VBM 4000GTC that was at le mans test for 1995/1996 and. raced in GT2 class in 1999 FFSA, Gillet Vertigo GT2 from 1996 that used a cosworth engine, Morgan GT2 that ran in 1996
The Sintura is definitely my favourite out of all of these not just for the speed by also the styling and the awesome sound it made thanks to that F1 based Judd V10 engine. Always found it interesting that although the Judd V10 wasn't great in F1 it worked a lot better in sports cars such as the Pescarolo that nearly beat the privateer Audis at the 2005 Le Mans 24 Hours and ironically carried Gran turismo sponsorship
The Harrier and also Sintura owner, was also the owner of Evesham micros, hence the sponsorship. But also owning Harrier, he also had the worlds most famous Lotus Carlton, 40 RA.
Awesome to see you were able to find your stride outside of gran turismo content! Great video and really well presented, your adherence to classic racing game osts is welcome as well!
It's so funny whenever someone grabs a photo from that dealership you did with the Pantera as that's in my state. That is a very distinctive and recognisable position that they chose to take photos of their cars
The Lancia 037 appearing in Japan is odd but with it racing on a circuit, not odd as that was what Lancia initially wanna do with that thing also. So what people forgot is that Group B has two stages. Road racing and rally racing. Rally got the hurrah but that doesn't mean manufacturers doesn't give a shit about road racing, in fact, many tried pulling two principles at one go most notably Lancia and Porsche. Lancia tried to turn it into a road racer (Technically Group B circuit racer) with the ideas from Group 5 which was already done in 1982 by Brivido Martini team with the Montecarlo which was a fully road specced 037 but with the Group B ruling, the car didn't perform extremely well upon testing thus they abandoned it and focused more on the rallying side of stuff which was Lancia's strong suit anyways.
Porsche was the only manufacturer that transformed a Group B rally car for circuit racing with a modified version of the 959 called the 961 which actually took a class win at Le Mans in 1986
Fantastic deep dive into the obscure. Love this era, something that that perhaps a bit overlooked is the Dauer 962, the time that Porsche bent the rules so much that it got the car banned opening the door to McLaren in 95.
This whole video feels like a lead in to Gran Turismo 2 A-Spec considering half of the cars are either in it or are soon to be in it in later versions. I'm down! Always liked the Sintura especially. Also there's a funny gif/video of a Sintura driver being yanked out of it by a pit guy.
Pretty cool to learn more about this era of Motorsport. There were definitely some awesome cars that I have never heard from. It's interesting how many of these types cars were built by smaller teams. This is something that has become quite rare today. It makes me appreciate cars like the Glickenhaus SCG 004C or the KTM X-Bow GT4 even more.
They're GTS-2 & GTS-1 cars and not GT1 cars, but this video reminds me of them and I'd be remiss not to mention two cars that competed at the 1995 24 Hours of Daytona. An off-the-shelf Mitsubishi Eclipse that was modified by two brothers in their garage and a NASCAR-spec Chevy Lumina stock car. I just found out about this the day before this video went up, lol.
Actually, the Mitsubishi engine you mentioned for the Harrier GT1 was real I found an engine producer mechanic from the Mitsubishi team (he told me to don't talk about his name or ID in public) who actually approved that he and the team in Mitsubishi corporation developed an early version of 6g7 engine for the harrier gt1
9:00 a video about the Suzuka 1000km would be amazing Rolfwaffle. Especially after It's been announced that they are bringing it back next year. It's Japan's longest running endurance race and has some interesting history involving Super GT, SRO/FIA GT, and even was on the prototype world championship one year. It's hard to find good content on this race but I feel like a video on this is right up your alley.
A bit off topic here but is this the same Richard Austin (the owner of Harrier and Sintura) who is the original owner of the infamous 40 RA Lotus Carlton when it was stolen?
Very interesting video, well done. I just watched a bunch of Darrians rallying at Tour of Epynt Rally in Wales last weekend. Nice to learn something about them.
the Boss of Sintura Racing team and Owner of Sintura S99 is Ironically the owner of a Infamous Lotus Carlton with a License plate 40RA which his car has stolen by a group of Robbery until it was found Totaled. So sad for him, he love that car.
LMAO, I was waiting the video to end, to put my hands in the comments about Bburago 1/43 diecast, but you mentioned it too:) LOL, in my childhood, when grandfather bought me this car, I thought it was not the real one, but fictional. Now I know the true value of this:)))) Thanks:) Bit dissapointed, I don't have MIG version, but road car is perfectly fine:) Gonna to find it out now.
39:18 Wow! I've had one of these for a long, long time and was convinced it was some sort of fictional car! I'm sure I still have it somewhere, will have to look through a ton of boxes!
Voodoo 3Dfx Sintura my beloved May it forever be remembered thanks to that driver change where they grab and throw the outgoing driver out of the car GTA style.
Thank you so much for this, love obscure vehicles like this and 40 minutes perfect to watch with a cup of coffee ❤ The 90s were something else for GT Racing absolutely superb 👌
fun fact: i remember to have a diecast of the mig m100, In fact, I immediately recognized the car even without ever having seen it again for at least 12 years... I had this 1/43 scale model as a child and coincidentally from the Bburago brand, which coincidentally it is sponsored in the race version of the car... thanks for making me remember that forgotten car ahahaha EDIT: YOU SAID IT IN THE VIDEO AHAHAHA... congrats man youre a real one
My first die-casting model was a burago 1:18 scale bright yellow C5 convertible my dad bought at the airport when he was on a business trip to Europe back in 2001.
Roflwaffle, Thanks for another fabulous video! so many questions, always coming here for clarity.. Off topic slightly: Great to see an Australian flag on that De Tomaso Pantera. Regarding GT7 update 1.49 - I'll bet (and hope) your busy with that one at some point in the future (yes, it will be a lot of work to put together let alone working out all the changes PD have made)! I have only just noticed (today) that when pitting a car in GT7 there are options to repair the Engine, Suspension and Aerodynamics as well.. was this always the case? Much love and respect for your channel ❤
i had seen photos of the 037 at Fuji and seeing the livery had wondered if it was simply sporting a homage to the works rally cars or an actual ex works Group B car. Really interesting to hear it was a legit ex works car that got converted to go circuit racing
8:57 Wut is that? I love this era of racing... all the cars looked so amazing! Not too "sterilized", no LED screens on the body, and they were all NOTICEABLY different!!!
A Lancia 037 rally car modified to race against top of the line japanese GT cars. What's next, a NASCAR cup car modified to race against top of the line european GT cars?
Wait...
Rally Viper.
*three times, in fact
@@tomarmadiyer2698 you want to make a ban on V10 on WRC too? 😭
Was the nascar a Taurus??? Cause fun fact I think at the time it was (not the nascar) but a global car. Like the mondeo/contour. Which is also in Gran turismo 1-2
@kevincollins8620 It was a Dodge Charger and a Ford Torino in 1976, and a Chevy Camaro in 2023.
The thumbnail had me rolling, not the Lancia 037 screaming "WTF AM I"
I know right 😂
@@deadkillereli3890 REAL
🤣
Did it perhaps have you… rofl? Roflwaffle perchance?
@@h80np39 Now that was clever.
Entering a kit car replica into a GT championship is like trying out for a professional football team as some guy from Glasgow who _looks_ like David Beckham.
I only know of the GT500 037 because of the GT2 A-Spec mod. I remember talking to the devs about it and they basically said
>joins gt500 with barely any modifications
>severely underpowered
>sucks ass
>does a single race
>refuses to elaborate
>leaves
like a true chad
Rally gearing sucks - install bigger diameter wheels to gain speed - new wheels rub in the wheel wells
..it was such an amateur show lol
@@jeeves_uk ello there
I remembered getting two of them to appear in the Italian regional event and laughing at how dogwater they were compared to the other cars. What legends
Also for the Sintura S99 and the other obscure GT1 entries like Bitter GT1, Quaife R4
"... just a mirage." Top quality hot air with that pun-tach!
Gt2000 intensfies.
that made me sigh lol, I should've expected that
It's not a pun, it's just a quote from a song lyric.
but not a mitsubishi mirage
Holy crap I didn't even know the 037 went on as a GT1 car 🤣 if it's "fundamentally the same" as the rally car, I wonder how the rollcage situation was handled-
That's the neat thing, it probably wasn't 😂
The Rollcage never existed.
In the grand old tradition of Lancia it was probably some PVC pipe painted silver
@@DjDolHaus86 wrapped in aluminum foil for increased fire resistance-
@@Mugigomi safety first
My dad took a photo of the ADA Pantera at Le Mans, he hanged the photo over his bench in the garage and always said that it was one of the most beautiful race car ever made...
A fake lambo kit car racing amongst bespoke gt1 cars and JGTC is crazy
with the racing number #69 no less
@@beigeturtleneck nice
@@beigeturtlenecknice
@@beigeturtlenecknice
@@beigeturtlenecknice
What am I!? A rally car? A JGTC? I'M GT1!
LOL
I wouldn't mind, but Lancia have competed at Le Mans in Group C, so seeing a 037 for a GT1 video...
"I'M MARY POPPINS, Y'ALL"
I don’t know who I am, I don’t know what I am, I don’t know where I am, all I know is that I must race
I think you're the first youtuber to talk about MiG M100 in a documentary format. I've seen this car when I was researching to recreate the 1993 24H of LeMans on assetto corsa, and saw the M100 and it's poor results. I am so glad that someone actually talked about these very forgotten GT1 gems, Harrier, Mosler and their Raptor GT1, the 037 "GT1", etc.
More racing games need more cars like these, so they can have at least some type of recognition. Then again... licensing will be a big issue for some of these cars and brands.
Recognition and a second hand trauma (probably)
As modders I guess many of us would have loved to recreate these - but information is just so impossible to get. Even just photos that are not blurry scans. As these did also not end up in museums we can't even go and take them ourselves 😢
Use of Sega GT music is just...
Ah, nostalgia, my friend.
It amazes me how 2 racing teams watched the previous owners of the mirage and said, Yeah thats the car i need to race.
It was probably super cheap, thats why.
The Quaife R4 GTS is one of the nicest cars I’ve ever seen tbh. I agree 100% with your aesthetics take.
There is another obscure car you needed to mention and that is the Bitter GT1. Because the Bitter GT1 actually started out life as a factory Elise GT1. Mike Hezemans which was a former Dutch factory racing driver decided to fix the car of it's problems. His father Toine, owned the 2 former Elise GT1 chassis and with 2 mechanics Peter Classen and Mario van Beek, they reworked the car and replaced the Chevy V8 with a Chrysler 8.0 V10. The car was branded a Bitter in order to make it compliant for the FIA GT championship. Hezeman's friend Erich Bitter which was an independent German car maker agreed to brand the car a Bitter. That is the story in short
That Quaife Escort GT1 blew my mind 😅
This and the early days of British GT which also featured some hilarious homebuilds and some cars that just straight up werent GT cars at all, are great video ideas
As proven when in the background of clips here you can see a Morgan Plus 8 and a bloody Westfield!
Oddities I spotted
Lancia Startos 3:39
Ford Mustang 5:28
Stratos also appears at 16:16
The stratos was apparently a replica known as a corsa according to the commentator in one of the commentators and also raced in the GTO category in the 2000 British GT Championship. I think in 1997 it was in the GT3 class
@@mattsmotorsportmemories5743 interesting! Thanks for the info!
Mustang was ran as a Saleen SR
16:07 such beautiful windscreen wiper action
ROSSO 037!!11!!1!1!!
WHAT IS A GOOD QUALIFYING TIME
i love slow jgtc cars so much, this, the eimei mirage, the advance auto camaro, the sifo spider, all my beloved
im also really happy you talked about the sintura s99, the story of its homoligation might be even funnier than the toyota gtone's "fuel tank"
The Sintura S99 has actually been restomodded by Rodin Cars in New Zealand!! It was raced at the 2024 World Time Attack in Melbourne!!!
27:04 correct me if I m wrong I have heard that Richard Austin own a lotus Carlton that was stolen and use in some robery
yes the 40ra
And this, ladies and gentlemen, Is why I love the First era of the GT1 Class. Pure. Motorsport. Creativity.
Calling a Lamborghini replica "Mirage" is crazy lmao
Yeah, why not a "fatamorghini" instead?
DOSHI VOCÊ AQUI???
@@mavericknizmo9182 sim akaak
Aw, no mention of the Vector M12? That was my favourite in Sports Car GT and about the closest the Lamborghini Diablo (my actual favourite car) came to being used in GT Racing. Having said this, the M12 was in GT-2 - I just used it in GT-1 because I wanted it to win!
Some seriously beautiful cars in GT racing in the 90s though - my favourite Mustang - the Saleen one seen in this video, the best Viper (and the sound it makes will make your hairs stand on end!), Ferrari F355s with the coolest painted-white 5 Spoke rims ever (OZ rims), the F40 GTE/LM, the Esprit V8 still with its pop-up headlights and those GT-2 Porsche 911s with the strip rear light.
The 90s really was peak hypercar and I reckon it drove this racing series and vice versa. I'd watch races to will the best-looking car to win - I had no interest in the drivers! This and the multiple races in one race were two reasons I much preferred GT racing over F1 (even back then, when it was still worth watching).
the Sintura GT1 was purchased by David Dicker in New Zealand who owns Rodin Motorsport who compete in formula 2 and 3. They have since made another version using 3d printed titanium for some of the engine parts and lots of other mechanics on the car. It made its international return at world time attack this year, held at Sydney Motorsport Park.
learnt something insanely cool. Rodin cars brough the Sintura in the early 2000s and along with the car mentioned here recieved a spare chassis and the moldings for the body. To celebrate the 25th anniversary of it, they've built a new Sintura using their own 4l NA V10, that chassis and the bodywork molds alongside a ton of in house engineering and its running at World Time Attack currently. Reading their press comments it appears they plan to put the Sintura into production but i assume it'll be a track day special rather than ever getting a true road car.
For context on Rodin, they're a New Zeeland based engineering firm building engines, continuing on the Lotus T125 project with their own upgrades, building a no rules single seater and attempted to join F1 in a partnership with Carlin but were denied by the FIA so they've got some serious engineering capablity and no doubt could build these from the ground up to sell
The Harriers, Quaife and Sintura are my favourites.
Fun fact: The current owner of the Sintura S99 is none other than David Dicker, founder of Rodin Cars and Rodin Motorsport. It likely inspired his FZERO hypercar project.
I haven't even played Gran Turismo for many years, but for some reason I watch your videos. They are fire🔥
“A true golden age for sports car racing”
Yk, I think there’s a case to be made for the current HyperCar regulations in WEC/IMSA to be considered a golden age in endurance/sports car racing, but few games if at all feature them.
The Cadillac GTP, the Ferrari 499P, the new Toyota, hell even Isotta Fraschini could be just as iconic as the Mclaren F1, or the CLK GTR and so on. If only a game like Gran Turismo included a full HyperCar roster in their games, or Forza, or anyone
Well,the Cadillac and Porsche (as a DLC)are already in the newest Forza Motorsport (but classed alongside the LMP1,so they are kind of outclassed) while the Toyota is most likely to appear first on GT than Forza (just like the GR86 or the GR Yaris).
But I agree that the Hypercar class isn't complete anywhere(outside of LeMans Ultimate) and more games should try to add them, just like with the GT1s.
@@DerpShermanI mean, it doesn’t need to be complete like Le Mans Ultimate, but a game that features at least… say like 4 or 5 of them. (For example: Toyota, Ferrari, Porsche, Cadillac and BMW) would be a good start.
I know licensing is a pain (especially when it comes to Ferrari as I’ve heard) and modeling a car in todays graphical standards might be even more of a pain, especially when it comes to Gran Turismo. But there’s a golden opportunity here and both PD and T10 just seem to be missing the mark
Regardless, I'm thankful that we have yet another golden age for sports car racing.
There was the Seat Toledo GT and the Sunred SR21 !!!
Yesss another video with not well known obscure cars
That's kinda funny with the 037 - it was originally derived from a Group 5 track car called the Beta Montécarlo Turbo - although that had wider wheels and box arches for them to stick out further under. Kinda went full circle only without getting all of its track parts back.
The Sintura is now in Gran Turismo... sort of. It's been added as part of the A-Spec mod for Gran Turismo 2. Also the Porsche 962C is a GT1 car, and you can't prove me wrong on that.
The 037 "GT1" is also in GT2 A-Spec.
@@thehwguy4293 As is the Renault Spider and, coming soon, the Quaife and eventually the Ascari.
From the last clip, Mega's history is very varied and rather bizarre - as well as their supercar-that-never-was and that Mega Trak thing (that looks and with that name sounds like a full-size Tonka toy) they were also well known for building tiny economy cars of the kind legal for 16-year-olds to drive in France on a moped licence, and favoured by elderly drivers elsewhere, some being known as Aixam-Mega. And just to add an even stranger element, one of those small cars formed the basis of the Mega Glace ice racing car, which was a little mid-engined four-wheel steering rocket which won the Trophée Andros title in 1994 driven by Francois Chauche.
I'm so glad people like you exist to make videos like this. Absolutely spectacular. Extremely well done.
Mine has to be the Quaife Escort, would love to hear more about that car.
Seeing the Pantera SI give my favourite car of all time a final racing send off is awesome to see.
No mention of the silly loop hole mobile known as the Dauer 962. While maybe not "hidden" or "forgotten", it most certainly is weird
I’m confused
@@BLJMARIOSM64 How so?
@@merobo5066 I’m still confused
16:15 Lancia Stratos... Maybe they were onto something with that 037 🤣
The Mosler entries are so unusual, ugly as hell but strangely charming to me at the same time. The Raptor GT1 though did look a lot better than the road car with those aero modifications for the front end.
The Harriers on the other hand are fantastic looking, it's a real pity they're mostly forgotten considering how well they could perform. The LR9 in particular looks really good and stands out without necessarily being unusually styled.
The Quaife is also an extremely good looking car and reminds me a bit of a Noble (kinda like the M600), also interesting as both brands use Ford engines (although Noble use V6s). Definitely ahead of its time and very impressive for a drivetrain manufacturer who don't build or design cars normally. It was also a cool idea to run it as a 4WD but obviously not particularly effective, I'm glad they've kept both of them alive and on display too.
The Sintura also looks ahead of its time, reminds me a lot of the Toyota GT-One in terms of appearance. Massive pity it ended its life due to funding, a proper road version would've been pretty insane too.
The Renault Sport Spyder V6 looks super chunky, the short-wheelbase just makes it look quite damn fat lol. I do love it as an idea though and it's definitely a very interesting change from the standard model, also an interesting choice of engine. I do prefer the original design though than the slight redesign of the Helem models.
I'd never actually heard of the MiG models so that's definitely a cool one to find out about.
My favourite is between the Quaife and the Harriers, I think I'll have to give it to Quaife because it's a more interesting project and looks better imo
holyshit, not me watching this till the end right as i have an MCA Centenaire modernisation design sketch on my desk
Me and another friend recently got into various motorsports. As soon as we found out that the 037 raced in the jgtc we were fucking rolling on the ground laughing at it, just thinking it would've probably destroyed the Diablo
I only discovered through your video that i had one of the MIG Buragos as a child in the 90s. The 90s were wild in terms of concept cars and supersport prototypes..
also yes the Sintura S99 is the car from that gif of the guy getting yanked out of the driver seat during a driver change
25:24 that driver swap was flawless and totally legal!?
I always really liked the split windshield Raptor
Again you've managed to educate me on obscure racing stories. When you think, you've seen them all, Roflwaffle pulls one out of his hat.
That Mosler Raptor looks like the lovechild of a Turismo Carretera car and a 2003 - 2016 Daytona Prototype. An absolute abomination!
Almost an eyesore, subjectively
That's pretty objective evaluation @@fajaradi1223
Well,since you mentioned Turismo Carretera, there was a time (during the 60s and early 70s) where prototypes were allowed to run in the category, something like the Raptor could have been part if the Prototype ruleset wasn't dropped.(Clearly not the Mosler Raptor itself,but something along these lines)
MCA Centenaire mention!!!
I remember having a Bbruago diecast model of it as a kid, and it always remained in a small, tidy corner of my childhood memories.
Sadly, the model car itself left my house about 15 years ago, probably during one of my many spring cleanings that consisted of sorting out old toys, among which were hundreds of diecast toy cars.
I still have mine, and I’ve always wanted to see it show up in a game at some point. Love the design!
Loving the SEGA GT 2002 music. Just heavy nostalgia.
I can think of 4 pretty rare unknown GT 's you missed Bitter GT1 that had a chrysler V10 from1998, VBM 4000GTC that was at le mans test for 1995/1996 and. raced in GT2 class in 1999 FFSA, Gillet Vertigo GT2 from 1996 that used a cosworth engine, Morgan GT2 that ran in 1996
35:03 respect for using a pic of TC-616. Very cool backstory
The Sintura is definitely my favourite out of all of these not just for the speed by also the styling and the awesome sound it made thanks to that F1 based Judd V10 engine. Always found it interesting that although the Judd V10 wasn't great in F1 it worked a lot better in sports cars such as the Pescarolo that nearly beat the privateer Audis at the 2005 Le Mans 24 Hours and ironically carried Gran turismo sponsorship
The #4 Quaife is literally one dark blue/white middle stripe away from being that one car from Ridge Racer Type 4, 😂
The Harrier and also Sintura owner, was also the owner of Evesham micros, hence the sponsorship. But also owning Harrier, he also had the worlds most famous Lotus Carlton, 40 RA.
the ridge racer ost is the only correct choice of music for gt1 cars
Awesome to see you were able to find your stride outside of gran turismo content! Great video and really well presented, your adherence to classic racing game osts is welcome as well!
It's so funny whenever someone grabs a photo from that dealership you did with the Pantera as that's in my state. That is a very distinctive and recognisable position that they chose to take photos of their cars
OFC
The Lancia 037 appearing in Japan is odd but with it racing on a circuit, not odd as that was what Lancia initially wanna do with that thing also.
So what people forgot is that Group B has two stages. Road racing and rally racing. Rally got the hurrah but that doesn't mean manufacturers doesn't give a shit about road racing, in fact, many tried pulling two principles at one go most notably Lancia and Porsche.
Lancia tried to turn it into a road racer (Technically Group B circuit racer) with the ideas from Group 5 which was already done in 1982 by Brivido Martini team with the Montecarlo which was a fully road specced 037 but with the Group B ruling, the car didn't perform extremely well upon testing thus they abandoned it and focused more on the rallying side of stuff which was Lancia's strong suit anyways.
Porsche was the only manufacturer that transformed a Group B rally car for circuit racing with a modified version of the 959 called the 961 which actually took a class win at Le Mans in 1986
Fantastic deep dive into the obscure. Love this era, something that that perhaps a bit overlooked is the Dauer 962, the time that Porsche bent the rules so much that it got the car banned opening the door to McLaren in 95.
Man, this is bringing me back to the times I'd catch on cable "The Grid" and would be wow'd by the recaps of British GT1. So much cool cars!
This whole video feels like a lead in to Gran Turismo 2 A-Spec considering half of the cars are either in it or are soon to be in it in later versions. I'm down!
Always liked the Sintura especially. Also there's a funny gif/video of a Sintura driver being yanked out of it by a pit guy.
The "reloading" gif was actually how i and alot of the a-spec dev team found out about the sintura lol
Pretty cool to learn more about this era of Motorsport. There were definitely some awesome cars that I have never heard from. It's interesting how many of these types cars were built by smaller teams. This is something that has become quite rare today. It makes me appreciate cars like the Glickenhaus SCG 004C or the KTM X-Bow GT4 even more.
They're GTS-2 & GTS-1 cars and not GT1 cars, but this video reminds me of them and I'd be remiss not to mention two cars that competed at the 1995 24 Hours of Daytona. An off-the-shelf Mitsubishi Eclipse that was modified by two brothers in their garage and a NASCAR-spec Chevy Lumina stock car. I just found out about this the day before this video went up, lol.
Actually, the Mitsubishi engine you mentioned for the Harrier GT1 was real I found an engine producer mechanic from the Mitsubishi team (he told me to don't talk about his name or ID in public) who actually approved that he and the team in Mitsubishi corporation developed an early version of 6g7 engine for the harrier gt1
9:00 a video about the Suzuka 1000km would be amazing Rolfwaffle. Especially after It's been announced that they are bringing it back next year. It's Japan's longest running endurance race and has some interesting history involving Super GT, SRO/FIA GT, and even was on the prototype world championship one year. It's hard to find good content on this race but I feel like a video on this is right up your alley.
Shame that it won't be a Super GT event as it should be
Some of the strange stuff even showed up in Choro Q games(PS1 era) as paint shop liveries. especially Lancia 037.
14:13 I was waiting to hear “prototype aircraft!”😂😂
Please do more videos like this for more motorsport series! It's honestly hard to find breakdowns like this.
Love how well researched this video is! I have no idea how you managed to find out so much about such obscure cars LOL
A bit off topic here but is this the same Richard Austin (the owner of Harrier and Sintura) who is the original owner of the infamous 40 RA Lotus Carlton when it was stolen?
Exactly!
Very interesting video, well done. I just watched a bunch of Darrians rallying at Tour of Epynt Rally in Wales last weekend. Nice to learn something about them.
the Boss of Sintura Racing team and Owner of Sintura S99 is Ironically the owner of a Infamous Lotus Carlton with a License plate 40RA which his car has stolen by a group of Robbery until it was found Totaled.
So sad for him, he love that car.
I believe he has another one now.
@@davecommentator He bought another one.
I appreciate the Ridge Racer R4 soundtrack in the video. Brings back many good memories ❤️
Love the GRID garage music at the end. 👌🏾Cheers to you and your work.
waffle you're my favourite hidden GT1 gem
LMAO, I was waiting the video to end, to put my hands in the comments about Bburago 1/43 diecast, but you mentioned it too:) LOL, in my childhood, when grandfather bought me this car, I thought it was not the real one, but fictional. Now I know the true value of this:)))) Thanks:) Bit dissapointed, I don't have MIG version, but road car is perfectly fine:) Gonna to find it out now.
39:18 Wow! I've had one of these for a long, long time and was convinced it was some sort of fictional car! I'm sure I still have it somewhere, will have to look through a ton of boxes!
Voodoo 3Dfx Sintura my beloved
May it forever be remembered thanks to that driver change where they grab and throw the outgoing driver out of the car GTA style.
29:36 idk why im laughing my ass off over a simple bonk edit. Great stuff roflwaffle.
Thank you so much for this, love obscure vehicles like this and 40 minutes perfect to watch with a cup of coffee ❤
The 90s were something else for GT Racing absolutely superb 👌
Burago was my childhood.
No wonder when I was a kid playing unlicensed gt racing games on the n64 and GameCube they had so many wild inspired car designs!
fun fact: i remember to have a diecast of the mig m100, In fact, I immediately recognized the car even without ever having seen it again for at least 12 years... I had this 1/43 scale model as a child and coincidentally from the Bburago brand, which coincidentally it is sponsored in the race version of the car... thanks for making me remember that forgotten car
ahahaha
EDIT: YOU SAID IT IN THE VIDEO AHAHAHA... congrats man youre a real one
Thank you for doing a video like this I’ve always wondered what other brands competed in GT1
And congrats on 40K subs!
The amount of drag that 037 would produce on the straights Lmao. What were they thinking? Or better... were they thinking at all
My first die-casting model was a burago 1:18 scale bright yellow C5 convertible my dad bought at the airport when he was on a business trip to Europe back in 2001.
Love the video and also the GRID music at the end!
12:07 the blackbird car
Came in here thinking he was gonna talk about 3 cars or 4
But god bless he waaay over delivered
10/10 keep up the amazing work
I thought it was at least 7
Roflwaffle, Thanks for another fabulous video! so many questions, always coming here for clarity..
Off topic slightly:
Great to see an Australian flag on that De Tomaso Pantera.
Regarding GT7 update 1.49 - I'll bet (and hope) your busy with that one at some point in the future (yes, it will be a lot of work to put together let alone working out all the changes PD have made)!
I have only just noticed (today) that when pitting a car in GT7 there are options to repair the Engine, Suspension and Aerodynamics as well.. was this always the case?
Much love and respect for your channel ❤
Sintura my beloved
I wish it couldve seen more funding but oh well
i had seen photos of the 037 at Fuji and seeing the livery had wondered if it was simply sporting a homage to the works rally cars or an actual ex works Group B car. Really interesting to hear it was a legit ex works car that got converted to go circuit racing
Jeeeez, the helem it's so beautiful
*Work meisters on a lancia 037 goes hard*
Seeing the word /name MIG in a 24 hours of le mans car list, is like realizing that Northrop Grumman made both the B2 and the Famous LLV mailvan.
38:10 it’s does look cool tough the race car
8:57 Wut is that? I love this era of racing... all the cars looked so amazing! Not too "sterilized", no LED screens on the body, and they were all NOTICEABLY different!!!
12:37 MY EYEEES HEELP!!!1 That abomination aside, very interesting video. 037 in GT trim was a shocker almost as much as fake lambo.