It should be noted that at one point Ginyu had all seven of the Dragon Balls and it never crossed his mind to use them for himself. He delivered them to Freeza just as ordered. Freeza never thought of that possibility either.
Shiz Honey Iced T That's not true at all. Captain Ginyu knew very well what the Dragon Balls were for, he was even there when Frieza attempted to make his wish
+Elesa Brooks there is no point in the series of frieza telling his men apart from when he has all 7 and he tells ginyu "now I can finally get my wish" not one other soldier of his ever learns of their power and that is why ginyu doesn't use them for himself because frieza tells him of their power when they are in friezas possession
Here's a fun fact. In the Movie "Fusion Reborn" , Frieza acquires an army of henchmen in hell. After Gohan smokes Frieza in one hit, all of the henchmen run away like cowards and you can see a frog jumping away with them.
I include both because even though it isn't canon not using non canon references would limit my videos to almost nothing. I own the manga. For instance, if I only go by manga facts, I can't have fun using filler topics in my videos. That means that if I only went by the manga, I'm limiting myself from ever using references that can talk about anime movies, ova's or any other non-canon topic that can be a great topic or a discussion. Thats why I make sure I always says it's non canon bro.
+Mudkip971 Makes Ginyu DEAD. All members of the Ginyu Force were killed by Vegeta. Vegeta kills Ginyu in Super when the frog switches bodies with Frieza's new strong man, and then Vegeta one shots him.
Have you considered doing a segment on what would have happened if Goku never got his body back, remained in Ginyu's body and somehow survived (perhaps by Sinsu bean, which I don't know how to spell)? The obvious dilemma this would cause is what to do with Goku's body now inhabited by Ginyu (or potentially Vegita's body instead). One possibility is that upon aquiring Goku's body, Ginyu might have finally thought he was strong enough to take on Freeza. Another "what if" scenario is what would have happened if Ginyu had succeeded in taking Vegita's body? While all of these "what ifs" would ultimately end with the inability to defeat Freeza, and probably would have to rely on the Dragon Balls instead, still would be something fun to consider...
Ginyu is just extremely loyal, he literally had all seven Dragonballs and could've tried using them or getting the Namekians to help him use them instead of bringing them to Frieza.
He's actually based on Japanese Tokusatsu super heroes, namely those of the Super Sentai series, which is the source footage for Power Rangers. Also, agree 100% on the Ginyu Force being capable of overthrowing Frieza.
Ginyu knocks out Guldo and switches bodies with him. Given some time to train it's perfectly plausable he could learn Guldo's apparently natural time freeze ability. Then maybe just maybe he could use the body change on frieza whilst holding time freeze. There are also less complicated but less foolproof aproaches for Ginyu to overcome Frieza. I believe Ginyu was more content leading an elite team vs ruling an entire empire. Surely Ginyu's potential and motives were clear to Frieza as he allowed him to run an indepentant team instead of being his top right-hand lackey
Your theory about Ginyu vs Salza is incorrect. Cooler was not stronger than Frieza at that time. Cooler tells Goku that Frieza was the stronger brother until Cooler discovered the fifth form.
NINmann01wiiU he doesnt know because its not true cooler was always stronger the only reason he thinks freeza was stronger is because cooler was deafeted easeier in the movie than freeza was but thats only becasue goku didnt allow cooler to go to 100 percentlike he allowed freeza and even when freeza was at 100% goku was just toying with him not only that he had time to train on planet yardrat and he gain a boost of power after being pretty close to death by fighting freeza
Emiliano Rogue Don't lie about me. I know for a fact that Frieza was stronger before Cooler discovered the fifth form. Cooler says this in the movie before he transform. He said that Frieza had the edge before he discovered his fifth form. Go to 33:26 and Cooler confirms Frieza was stronger before Cooler discovers his next form. DragonBall Z: Cooler's Revenge (Full Movie)
UndrGround Gaming Its actually not surprising. He in charge of a flamboyant squad requires them to be flamboyant. He would only wver has intercourse would someone more powerful then him. So he decided to act like Bulma and change his voice to sound like Bulma. They really underestimated captain Ginyu.
Ok Quamaan, about the Freeza thing, I have a theory about Ginyu. Though he has used his body change in dishonest ways in the past, I think he respects Freeza and fighting with honor. I understand this contradicts his actions in the anime and manga, but my theory stems from Xenoverse, a game which clearly had a lot of thought put into it. I played a Freeza Race (or Arcosian, call it what you like) and noticed how Ginyu remarks he will fight with all his might after realizing your of the Freeza clan. Furthermore, when he *spoilers* *spoilers* *spoilers* swaps bodies with the players character in the story mode, if you play a Freeza Clan member, he tells Jeice that he is ashamed to be the same as Freeza, as he feels it would insult his master. So I know you can argue Xenoverse isn't cannon, but I feel like Akira put some of his thoughts into the game.
Deatharrows Actually it's been confirmed long before xenoverse even came out and perhaps a few years (I wanna say 5 or longer since I even found it) that Frieza's race is actually frost demon as Cell calls it in the game so you know. It's not acrosian, nor is it "frieza race" it's outright frost demon.
Deatharrows Yup it's in the dragon ball Wikia it's just damned annoying that the game doesn't officially state it during the character creation. Only real reference is from Cell in game....
Deatharrows Oh? I only ever noticed Cell saying it. Mostly cause Cell never shut's the fuck up during fights XD Meanwhile Gohan only screams "KAMEHAMEHA" every five fucking seconds...Adult Gohan is freaking vicious :l
I think Ginyu just retired from everything. Once he ended up as a frog in the Cc corps in doors pond. He seemed pretty happy to bark orders to the other residents of the pond.
What people seem to be forgetting is Freezia is a psychic just like Guldo and Ginyu. So the mind body shit would not work. He didn't kill Ginyu, because despite being able to change bodies, and having a battle power of 120,000, Ginyu was still just an ant compared to him. Cooler and King Cold were probably Phychics like freezia was as well so the same rules apply.
Funny, cause Goku was also psychic - Did he not read Krillen's mind on Earth? He simply didn't expand on his mental powers because they were too far behind and would not benefit him in battle - unlike Chaiotsu who is purely a psychic warrior.
3 reasons why he didn't take frieza's body 1. if ginyu swapped with frieza then without being able to transform, the rest of the freiza clan could kill him 2. we also see it is a slow proccess that can be avoided and requires talking so evading it could be easy for anyone even as fast as vegeta's throwing 3. he's got it pretty good so has no real need to change
I don't know why, but Captain Ginyu is just adorable to me. The juxtaposition of badass cool with campy flamboyance is just addicting to me. And like everyone else in this series, he has a magnificent ass but HE knows how to show it off.
What if Captain Ginyu didn't switch with Frieza, Cooler and/or Cold because he'd invite the wrath of the other two, and no one of the three is strong enough to defeat the other two (and all their henchmen)?
***** cold would not beat frieza and\or cooler cold is a coward he try's to bargain for his life but then he dies think about it he says to trunks I could take you under my wing we could be partners but then trunks shot him with a beam
he could because when his body was weak and close to being beat he can switch with on of the others and then doing it again when that body gets weak putting him in a good body and them in a damaged body and not knowing how to use it
Mistake around 1:10 Cooler is not stronger than Frieza while Frieza and Ginyu were living. Cooler states that until he achieved his newest form he was weaker. So Ginyu may or may not have been stronger than Salza. Considering the Ginyus were a special squad and things tend to point that they were the strongest of all King Cold's armies. It is safe to say Ginyu won. Or else he would have switched bodies lol.
The most tragic part about Ginyu is that they kept him being in the frog's body on Earth canon all the way up until Kid Buu blew up the Earth. After the Namek saga, frog Ginyu's never really seen again, not even in Hell where the rest of the Ginyu force is.
I always thought he avoided trying to switch bodies with freeze as he would have no idea if it would even work. freeze is so strong and so legendary as to cause his enemies to give pause. same with guldo. I could imagine that they would harbor dots as to whether their techniques would work and fear to even try.
When Goku and Ginyu's souls switch bodies, Ginyu's soul still resembles his purple devil form. Also, I'm pretty sure that he appears in one of the movies. I concluded that after spending enough time in a different body, the soul begins taking on the appearance of the body it's inhabiting. This would explain Ginyu's appearance when he's dead. As for why Ginyu never switched bodies with Frieza, King Cold, or Cooler, it's because they're so much stronger and faster, plus they knew of Ginyu's body switching ability, so he would never be able to pull off the change before they kill him for treason.
Ginyu could actually be way older than he looks. If he can take over people's bodies, he could effectively live forever by shifting from body to body. Hell, it's possible one of Chilled's men might've been Ginyu I always imagined that the Arcosians(most likely name for Frieza's species) lived a really long time. In both the manga and anime, flashbacks of Frieza to Bardock's time show he looks pretty much the same as now. Not to mention that his father seemed in the prime of his life, even though he would be in his 70s at least. Frieza could be old enough for the Super Saiyan legend to be recent history for him
My interpretation of Ginyu's body change is like General Blue from Dragonball. He was only able to use his Body Freeze technique on people it seemed with a similar strength to himself. As when he used it on Mercenary Tao, it is implied it didn't work because Tao was far too strong. When Ginyu sees Goku's strength at first he thinks Goku is a super saiyan, and is worried. Only when he realises that Goku can't be a super saiyan, does he laugh and attempt his body swap technique. My intepretation was that if Goku as a super saiyan had a power to rival Frieza's, then he knew he wouldn't be able to attempt it. But when he knew it was less, he had a go at swapping bodies. My presumption is that if he tried it on Frieza, Frieza wouldn't be frozen like Goku was during the swap, and would have easily dodged.
I agree. Ginyu knows how to steal bodies, but he doesn't know how to get the best performance out of them. If he took on Frieza`s body, he wouldn't know how to transform and get the most out of it. By that time, Cooler could come by and kill him at any moment.....But then he could take Coolers body too......confusing.......
Well as for Frieza being faster and stronger to dodge the technique. When He was about to do it on Vegeta, Vegeta did say he couldnt move like there was a force holding him
Assuming Guildo could stop a being roughly 12x his own in base form...Him and Ginyu would only have like 30 seconds to stop someone way stronger than both of them. Raditz was roughly 3x as strong as Piccolo and it took him an incredible amount of time to charge the Special Beam Cannon. Frieza's body in base could wear out the clock and kill them both afterward.
I think that the reason that Ginyu still looks like ginyu in hell is because that is the species of captain Ginyu, after all every time captain Ginyu does his body switch move the soul that leaves the body that he's currently in it looks like his original body
There isn't a reason why it isn't, it was called a "grand side story" by the creator of Dragon ball, in case you have no prior knowledge of the meaning of side story, it doesn't mean non canon. I.e. Majora's Mask, Halo Reach, etc.
actually it is, Akira Toriyama stated that he counts GT as a part of the whole DragonBall universe and everything that happened in GT is canon, and if you disagree SSJ4 was written by Akira Toriyama so SSJ4 is canon.
Unless you count Xenoverse, have you ever thought that there are limitations to that ability, that when someone is as strong as Freeza, he just can't possibly transfer his essence anymore?
thats the thing though, the technique freezes the target in place the moment he starts it, theyd need too be on to his plan literally the second he tries, too avoid it
ok the thing about sayaman is the fact that gohan is just a adult who was mentally scarred as a child by ginyu and his gang after all who do you know that could live through that kinda of childhood and not have some kind of issues
I always figured that Guldo and Ginyu couldn't do it since Guldo probably can't paralyze Frieza given Frieza's own psychic abilities and huge power gap
3rd video I'm watching of you. Less disappointed here cause you were right about the fact that frieza could easily stop ginyu's technique. It is in fact the most likely scenario. (Though I doubt even when teaming with guldo, ginyu woulda stood a chance) Frieza's power is so huge it coulda probably cancelled out the freezing technique. ps: careful with using non canon for references btw.
Ginyu didn't steal frieza's body for the same reason he was so weak in goku's. Frieza was always in his weakest, most suppressed form and Ginyu had no clue how to unleash the full power, leaving him to get killed by the other two or they'd force him back into his own body then kill him.
Ginyu is just loyal to his boss. That's why He never did that. Frieza may be a spoiled brat but He was for a fact the mortal ruler of universe 7 and the strongest fighter so far. Cell and the androids weren't born yet, Dabura was in hell, Majin Bu was asleep, Moro was weak and in prison and King Cold was old. And that's it. He worked for Frieza because He was paid well and probably had many planets for himself. People just forgets Frieza is also the richest being in the universe, He may be a tyrant but He cared for his "stronger servants". In fact He does treat Ginyu with respect. The captain was just having a good life; being a well paid soldier, for the strongest empire and the second strongest fighter (King Cold is retired from governments and fighting). Plus: I don't really think Ginyu is interested in being the strongest, He wants to be number two, that's how Toriyama wrote this character.
Yeah but if he took frieza's body he and his force can essentially rule the universe. But at the same time he may not be able to control frieza's body.
I think the evil is balanced here. If Ginyu tried to take over the empire he would get stomped out by Cooler. The Body Change wouldn't work as Cooler would just see it coming.
What would happen if Ginyu were to switch bodies with someone like Gotenks, Gogeta or just anyone that happens to be fused and 30 minutes were to pass?
Well, the reason why Captain Ginyu has the same body in hell and we know that's not his original form might be because the body he has on Namek belongs to someone of his Original Species and they all look similar and was drawn the same way.
Kurachi84 Yeah that's true but in his time of desperation after 18 was ejected from his body he tried killing himself and everyone else, so it's very possible he might have used the technique. Captain Ginyu was a very proud and honorable fighter too, as seen when he had Goku and let him go, because of Jeice's interference, but he still used the technique too. It's DBZ anything could have happened.
+Kenny X Sites oh yeah, cell had 1 moment of losing.... but he may have known about his cells, so he knew he wasnt gonna die i think he even says that, kinda...
I think that the reason he didn't switch bodies with any of the cold family because like you said he wouldn't know how to transform or know how to control their ki. If King Cold realizes that something is wrong that would be an easy kill for him.
You do know that certain minerals and other natural elements can change blood color for example a small shelled creature has fucking pink blood because it has alot of iron and zinc in its blood and the iron and zinc are combined into solid masses within its blood stream.
ginyu attack is probably just a one time thing if you have seen it you probably wont get tricked (except for vegeta), freeza has probably seen it and wont fall for it
Theres also the possibility that he couldn't. Frieza is constantly guarded by Dodoria and Zarbon. Even if he were to walk right through the front door, that attack takes time and odds are Frieza knows about the ability. In the few seconds it would take him to charge up the attack, he'd be dead.
ginyu probably thought about switching w/frieza, but out of fear didn't. Frieza would do what vegeta did and avoid the technique b4 incapacitating ginyu.
What if Ginyu killed Goku and kept his body throughout the series? How would it change? What if Ginyu in Gokus body became a Super Sayian and betrayed Freeza? How would Final form Freeza vs SSJ Ginyu go out?
He was only able to change bodies as a frog because of the device Bulma built for him that made him able to speak. He has to verbally speak the name of the ability to use it.
I have a couple of theories as why Genyu doesn't switch body with Frieza. - First, he probably can't because of the large gap in power levels. We see him switching only with people that are yes stronger than him, but not that much. Goku is more or less twice stronger than him, and Vegeta is probably in between. I think the tecnique suffers from a resistance of the other person, and since in Dragon Ball everything becomes stronger with higher power levels (at least before Cell saga), I think Genyu knows that Frieza would most probably be able to resist the effect of the body switching. - Second, and I know we have no clue of this, there's always the possibility that Frieza somehow knows how to perform the same tecnique, making it useless. What do you guys think?
KnightAlbert well this is a very late response but I think the power to change bodies is exclusive to only ginyu, I can't see it as something that you can just learn, nor can I see his body swapping ability as something you can resist, however if your faster then Ginyu and can easily get out of the way such as Freiza can that's another story.
I don't think it makes sense that Captain Ginyu has changed bodies in the past... The entire concept of " not being able use the body to its full potential initially" was something Ginyu did not know until he changed bodies with Goku. Remember? He expected to have 180 000 of Ki as soon as he got Goku's body. Goku himself had to explain to Ginyu why he was so weak after the change.
then again goku was at 90000 or less before kaioken so it could be that he expected to be weaker than goku was at the time but not quite as weak as he was. maybe there is a percentage the power level drops from the change and ginyu expected to be at double what he was.
The idea that you can hide or boost your power without a transformation wasn't really a wide spread spread idea as Qui, Dodoria, Zarbon, and the Ginyu's were unaware of it even though Zarbon could change and Frieza was known to have other forms as Vegeta calls him out on it feeling cocky he matched him up to that point. What you read was what what they had so Ginyu expected ~180k not knowing that was Kaoikenx2 and since he doesn't know that technique he got less then half of what he expected. It also semi taps him after using it's use proportional to time so his 23,000 was right after the switch before he recovered to ~90k and could fight Krillin, Gohan, and a weakened Ginyu body.
Even if he doesn't, he wasn't able to withstand the body he'd switch with because he'd need time to get used to it. He'd also have the same techniques as before, not the same techniques as Frieza or Goku because he was the same soul, same mind, new body to get used to.
As i recall when ginyu was in bulmas form/body he said he never saw frieza in his final form and that it was his chance to take it. My theory is for safety frieza never let ginyu get to see his real body and also warned the rest of his family. But before he had a chance piccolo figured out he was ginyu in bulma's body and his plot was foiled if that hadn't happen most likely ginyu would have stolen frieza's body. Then again ginyu could have the same problem with what happened with goku's body.
The body swap seems to lock people into position fo a smooth transfer. I think he could have gotten Freeza's body. If I was him I would have never made my body change ability publicly known.
Also Ginyu couldn't take Friezas body because Frieza knew his body change technique which is not immediate and could probably easily dodge it (considering goku threw a frog in the way of it) and would then proceed to kill Ginyu.
Is the thing about Ginyu's body on Namek not being his original body canon? Because I don't remember seeing or hearing that in the manga or anime. Is it just filler? Or is it in the Daiszenshu (sorry if I didn't spell that right)
Frieza was definitely aware of ginyu body change technique Frieda may be a coward sometimes but he is a intelligence guy,ginyu on the other hand didn't wanna take the chance of attempting the body change technique on frieza because if frieza counters it then ginyu is fucked or maybe he sought that goku is a strong warrior that can match and surpass frieza wanted to use goku body to become stronger than frieze or to change bodies with frieze and if he fails he has a back up plan in having goku's body
I can't imagine Ginyu betraying Frieza. He's so loyal that he can even be trusted with the dragonballs. Also, I can't see how Guldo and Ginyu together could overthrow Frieza.
It should be noted that at one point Ginyu had all seven of the Dragon Balls and it never crossed his mind to use them for himself. He delivered them to Freeza just as ordered. Freeza never thought of that possibility either.
That's because frieza was the only one out of planet nameks invaders that new what the dragon balls were for
Shiz Honey Iced T That's not true at all. Captain Ginyu knew very well what the Dragon Balls were for, he was even there when Frieza attempted to make his wish
Dude Frieza informed his men of everything so Ginyu could've easily taken the Dragon Balls and tried making himself immortal.
+Elesa Brooks there is no point in the series of frieza telling his men apart from when he has all 7 and he tells ginyu "now I can finally get my wish" not one other soldier of his ever learns of their power and that is why ginyu doesn't use them for himself because frieza tells him of their power when they are in friezas possession
Shiz Honey Iced T
Regardless, there was always the possibility of learning about them during the mission from Vegeta.
Here's a fun fact. In the Movie "Fusion Reborn" , Frieza acquires an army of henchmen in hell. After Gohan smokes Frieza in one hit, all of the henchmen run away like cowards and you can see a frog jumping away with them.
As well as Bojack, for some strange reason.
PokeymanTrainer maybe bojack learned how to sense powerlevels while he was dead
REALLY? I was talking about the fact that Bojack is being controlled by Frieza, if he could sense power he'd know he's stronger.
Saiyaman being based after the Ginyu Force would make Fusion Reborn all the more ironic since Gohan makes the pose shortly before killing Frieza.
I include both because even though it isn't canon not using non canon references would limit my videos to almost nothing. I own the manga. For instance, if I only go by manga facts, I can't have fun using filler topics in my videos. That means that if I only went by the manga, I'm limiting myself from ever using references that can talk about anime movies, ova's or any other non-canon topic that can be a great topic or a discussion. Thats why I make sure I always says it's non canon bro.
So wait does that make me Ginyu?
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+Mudkip971
Makes Ginyu DEAD. All members of the Ginyu Force were killed by Vegeta.
Vegeta kills Ginyu in Super when the frog switches bodies with Frieza's new strong man, and then Vegeta one shots him.
+Pixar The Great thanks for the spoiler!
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It's been over a year since that episode aired. If you haven't seen it, that is YOUR problem not mine.
+Pixar The Great or I'm waiting for an english version.
Have you considered doing a segment on what would have happened if Goku never got his body back, remained in Ginyu's body and somehow survived (perhaps by Sinsu bean, which I don't know how to spell)? The obvious dilemma this would cause is what to do with Goku's body now inhabited by Ginyu (or potentially Vegita's body instead). One possibility is that upon aquiring Goku's body, Ginyu might have finally thought he was strong enough to take on Freeza. Another "what if" scenario is what would have happened if Ginyu had succeeded in taking Vegita's body? While all of these "what ifs" would ultimately end with the inability to defeat Freeza, and probably would have to rely on the Dragon Balls instead, still would be something fun to consider...
Ginyu is just extremely loyal, he literally had all seven Dragonballs and could've tried using them or getting the Namekians to help him use them instead of bringing them to Frieza.
Will the real Captain Ginyu Please Stand up
And if you'll look to the comment section you'll see an eminem reference
He already did, also i can see why he worked fir frieza. He must of gotten tired of working at burger king, spitting on your onion rings. Lol
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He's actually based on Japanese Tokusatsu super heroes, namely those of the Super Sentai series, which is the source footage for Power Rangers. Also, agree 100% on the Ginyu Force being capable of overthrowing Frieza.
Ginyu knocks out Guldo and switches bodies with him. Given some time to train it's perfectly plausable he could learn Guldo's apparently natural time freeze ability. Then maybe just maybe he could use the body change on frieza whilst holding time freeze. There are also less complicated but less foolproof aproaches for Ginyu to overcome Frieza. I believe Ginyu was more content leading an elite team vs ruling an entire empire. Surely Ginyu's potential and motives were clear to Frieza as he allowed him to run an indepentant team instead of being his top right-hand lackey
I bet he tried to steal Frieza's body at some point and got the crud kicked out of him for it.
+Lloyf Irvind (Loyf) Thats why his balls are in his head.
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+Timo John lol XD
+Lloyf Irvind (Loyf) I don't think he tried. Because if he did, Captain Ginyu more than likely wouldn't even be around to face Goku and the others. XD
Your theory about Ginyu vs Salza is incorrect. Cooler was not stronger than Frieza at that time. Cooler tells Goku that Frieza was the stronger brother until Cooler discovered the fifth form.
In which Dub or Canon? I was under the impression it was implied Cooler was always the more powerful?
NINmann01wiiU Cooler says this in Cooler's Revenge. He tells Goku that "Frieza had edge" until he discovered his fifth form.
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In which Dub? The original? or in the Funimation dub?
NINmann01wiiU he doesnt know because its not true cooler was always stronger the only reason he thinks freeza was stronger is because cooler was deafeted easeier in the movie than freeza was but thats only becasue goku didnt allow cooler to go to 100 percentlike he allowed freeza and even when freeza was at 100% goku was just toying with him not only that he had time to train on planet yardrat and he gain a boost of power after being pretty close to death by fighting freeza
Emiliano Rogue Don't lie about me. I know for a fact that Frieza was stronger before Cooler discovered the fifth form. Cooler says this in the movie before he transform. He said that Frieza had the edge before he discovered his fifth form.
Go to 33:26 and Cooler confirms Frieza was stronger before Cooler discovers his next form. DragonBall Z: Cooler's Revenge (Full Movie)
What if it is Frog Ginyu who wishes for Frieza's resurrection in "Revival of F"?
Debunked, unfortunately. Not sure if the Ginyus are even going to appear.
***** Aw, well I'm honestly hoping for the Ginyu Force to come back somehow. They were rather well fleshed out for mini-arc characters.
UndrGround Gaming It is revealed in the uncoming movie that ginyu switched bodies with Bulma and has been Bulma this entire time.
Miles Skocik Only to see Vegeta's reaction do I want this to be true.
UndrGround Gaming Its actually not surprising. He in charge of a flamboyant squad requires them to be flamboyant. He would only wver has intercourse would someone more powerful then him. So he decided to act like Bulma and change his voice to sound like Bulma. They really underestimated captain Ginyu.
I've always thought Ginyu may not be in his original body on Namek, but I don't see why that couldn't be his original body.
Well maybe because he knew that he had a body change technique, he had to have practiced the technique.
Yamcha the wolf hmmm that's a good point thank you
Ok Quamaan, about the Freeza thing, I have a theory about Ginyu. Though he has used his body change in dishonest ways in the past, I think he respects Freeza and fighting with honor. I understand this contradicts his actions in the anime and manga, but my theory stems from Xenoverse, a game which clearly had a lot of thought put into it. I played a Freeza Race (or Arcosian, call it what you like) and noticed how Ginyu remarks he will fight with all his might after realizing your of the Freeza clan. Furthermore, when he *spoilers* *spoilers* *spoilers*
swaps bodies with the players character in the story mode, if you play a Freeza Clan member, he tells Jeice that he is ashamed to be the same as Freeza, as he feels it would insult his master. So I know you can argue Xenoverse isn't cannon, but I feel like Akira put some of his thoughts into the game.
Deatharrows Actually it's been confirmed long before xenoverse even came out and perhaps a few years (I wanna say 5 or longer since I even found it) that Frieza's race is actually frost demon as Cell calls it in the game so you know. It's not acrosian, nor is it "frieza race" it's outright frost demon.
oh, my mistake. Thanks for informing me on the matter.
Deatharrows Yup it's in the dragon ball Wikia it's just damned annoying that the game doesn't officially state it during the character creation. Only real reference is from Cell in game....
blessedboydragon Actually, adult Gohan refers to the Frost Demons in a few lines of dialogue.
Deatharrows Oh? I only ever noticed Cell saying it. Mostly cause Cell never shut's the fuck up during fights XD Meanwhile Gohan only screams "KAMEHAMEHA" every five fucking seconds...Adult Gohan is freaking vicious :l
I think Ginyu just retired from everything. Once he ended up as a frog in the Cc corps in doors pond. He seemed pretty happy to bark orders to the other residents of the pond.
What people seem to be forgetting is Freezia is a psychic just like Guldo and Ginyu. So the mind body shit would not work. He didn't kill Ginyu, because despite being able to change bodies, and having a battle power of 120,000, Ginyu was still just an ant compared to him. Cooler and King Cold were probably Phychics like freezia was as well so the same rules apply.
Funny, cause Goku was also psychic - Did he not read Krillen's mind on Earth? He simply didn't expand on his mental powers because they were too far behind and would not benefit him in battle - unlike Chaiotsu who is purely a psychic warrior.
In the year 3000 captain ginyu is now the hypno frog
Ginyu had blue blood, guldo had no blood, burter had black blood, and piccolo has purple blood, BIG DEAL!
Frog Ginyu could have been even more of comic relief if they kept him around as a pet.
3 reasons why he didn't take frieza's body
1. if ginyu swapped with frieza then without being able to transform, the rest of the freiza clan could kill him
2. we also see it is a slow proccess that can be avoided and requires talking so evading it could be easy for anyone even as fast as vegeta's throwing
3. he's got it pretty good so has no real need to change
and i allways like the thought that theres a frog with a 120,000 powerlevel on earth in ginyus body
I don't know why, but Captain Ginyu is just adorable to me. The juxtaposition of badass cool with campy flamboyance is just addicting to me. And like everyone else in this series, he has a magnificent ass but HE knows how to show it off.
Wtf is wrong with you?
+TheMaskedMarvel Ginyu is Cl-ass-y.....Get it.
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TheMaskedMarvel Haha....
What if Captain Ginyu didn't switch with Frieza, Cooler and/or Cold because he'd invite the wrath of the other two, and no one of the three is strong enough to defeat the other two (and all their henchmen)?
***** cold would not beat frieza and\or cooler cold is a coward he try's to bargain for his life but then he dies think about it he says to trunks I could take you under my wing we could be partners but then trunks shot him with a beam
he could because when his body was weak and close to being beat he can switch with on of the others and then doing it again when that body gets weak putting him in a good body and them in a damaged body and not knowing how to use it
Could work. Seems risky, though.
that is not a legit question. the correct question should be wtf happened to the purple body of captain Ginyu after namek?
It got destroyed when Namek Blew up or he probably leaped into a lava crater while Goku was fighting Frieza xD
i refuse to believe Ginyu's body would be affected by planet explosion regardless of who is housing it now lol.
Heres a thought. Why has captain ginfrog stopped trying to switch bodies?
This video was posted on my birthday last year!
*Stands up*
"I am the real Captain Ginyu."
What if Ginyu had gone to the Grand Elder's place and fought Nail instead of Frieza[while he stayed behind with the Dragon Balls]?
everyone would die
He should switch bodies with Guldo, then freeze time, then steal Frieza's body. Frieza wouldn't even know he is being attacked.
Woah that's smart
Mistake around 1:10 Cooler is not stronger than Frieza while Frieza and Ginyu were living. Cooler states that until he achieved his newest form he was weaker. So Ginyu may or may not have been stronger than Salza. Considering the Ginyus were a special squad and things tend to point that they were the strongest of all King Cold's armies. It is safe to say Ginyu won. Or else he would have switched bodies lol.
The most tragic part about Ginyu is that they kept him being in the frog's body on Earth canon all the way up until Kid Buu blew up the Earth. After the Namek saga, frog Ginyu's never really seen again, not even in Hell where the rest of the Ginyu force is.
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I always thought he avoided trying to switch bodies with freeze as he would have no idea if it would even work. freeze is so strong and so legendary as to cause his enemies to give pause. same with guldo. I could imagine that they would harbor dots as to whether their techniques would work and fear to even try.
When Goku and Ginyu's souls switch bodies, Ginyu's soul still resembles his purple devil form. Also, I'm pretty sure that he appears in one of the movies.
I concluded that after spending enough time in a different body, the soul begins taking on the appearance of the body it's inhabiting. This would explain Ginyu's appearance when he's dead.
As for why Ginyu never switched bodies with Frieza, King Cold, or Cooler, it's because they're so much stronger and faster, plus they knew of Ginyu's body switching ability, so he would never be able to pull off the change before they kill him for treason.
Ginyu could actually be way older than he looks. If he can take over people's bodies, he could effectively live forever by shifting from body to body. Hell, it's possible one of Chilled's men might've been Ginyu
I always imagined that the Arcosians(most likely name for Frieza's species) lived a really long time. In both the manga and anime, flashbacks of Frieza to Bardock's time show he looks pretty much the same as now. Not to mention that his father seemed in the prime of his life, even though he would be in his 70s at least. Frieza could be old enough for the Super Saiyan legend to be recent history for him
My interpretation of Ginyu's body change is like General Blue from Dragonball. He was only able to use his Body Freeze technique on people it seemed with a similar strength to himself. As when he used it on Mercenary Tao, it is implied it didn't work because Tao was far too strong.
When Ginyu sees Goku's strength at first he thinks Goku is a super saiyan, and is worried. Only when he realises that Goku can't be a super saiyan, does he laugh and attempt his body swap technique. My intepretation was that if Goku as a super saiyan had a power to rival Frieza's, then he knew he wouldn't be able to attempt it. But when he knew it was less, he had a go at swapping bodies. My presumption is that if he tried it on Frieza, Frieza wouldn't be frozen like Goku was during the swap, and would have easily dodged.
I agree. Ginyu knows how to steal bodies, but he doesn't know how to get the best performance out of them. If he took on Frieza`s body, he wouldn't know how to transform and get the most out of it. By that time, Cooler could come by and kill him at any moment.....But then he could take Coolers body too......confusing.......
then why wouldnt he just take coolers bc cooler walked around in form 4
just take the body after they transformed
Well as for Frieza being faster and stronger to dodge the technique.
When He was about to do it on Vegeta, Vegeta did say he couldnt move like there was a force holding him
if you look closely when yamcha gets revived after the namak saga you can see ginyu on his head
Assuming Guildo could stop a being roughly 12x his own in base form...Him and Ginyu would only have like 30 seconds to stop someone way stronger than both of them. Raditz was roughly 3x as strong as Piccolo and it took him an incredible amount of time to charge the Special Beam Cannon. Frieza's body in base could wear out the clock and kill them both afterward.
I think that the reason that Ginyu still looks like ginyu in hell is because that is the species of captain Ginyu, after all every time captain Ginyu does his body switch move the soul that leaves the body that he's currently in it looks like his original body
Qaamam, much respect brother. Ginyu has loyalty. I think that is the reason he did not take Freeza, Cooler, or King Cold bodies. Pure loyalty.
gt isnt canon though
shut up before I use kaioken
There isn't a reason why it isn't, it was called a "grand side story" by the creator of Dragon ball, in case you have no prior knowledge of the meaning of side story, it doesn't mean non canon. I.e. Majora's Mask, Halo Reach, etc.
jefferson grassel shhh
jefferson grassel Although it is non-canon.
actually it is, Akira Toriyama stated that he counts GT as a part of the whole DragonBall universe and everything that happened in GT is canon, and if you disagree SSJ4 was written by Akira Toriyama so SSJ4 is canon.
Unless you count Xenoverse, have you ever thought that there are limitations to that ability, that when someone is as strong as Freeza, he just can't possibly transfer his essence anymore?
bro your audio sounds like your in a bathroom
thats the thing though, the technique freezes the target in place the moment he starts it, theyd need too be on to his plan literally the second he tries, too avoid it
ok the thing about sayaman is the fact that gohan is just a adult who was mentally scarred as a child by ginyu and his gang after all who do you know that could live through that kinda of childhood and not have some kind of issues
I always figured that Guldo and Ginyu couldn't do it since Guldo probably can't paralyze Frieza given Frieza's own psychic abilities and huge power gap
Was the information about Ginyu's Childhood from a Toryiama interview ?
3rd video I'm watching of you. Less disappointed here cause you were right about the fact that frieza could easily stop ginyu's technique. It is in fact the most likely scenario.
(Though I doubt even when teaming with guldo, ginyu woulda stood a chance)
Frieza's power is so huge it coulda probably cancelled out the freezing technique.
ps: careful with using non canon for references btw.
guldo time was a peak in to that world of dbZ
Ginyu didn't steal frieza's body for the same reason he was so weak in goku's. Frieza was always in his weakest, most suppressed form and Ginyu had no clue how to unleash the full power, leaving him to get killed by the other two or they'd force him back into his own body then kill him.
What if Ginyu took over the body of someone strong as a frog,infiltrated namek, revived Frieza, plotted revenge against the saya jins...
He couldn't switch bodies with one of his overlords because there's 3 of them. If he did, the other two would team up on him.
Ginyu is just loyal to his boss. That's why He never did that. Frieza may be a spoiled brat but He was for a fact the mortal ruler of universe 7 and the strongest fighter so far.
Cell and the androids weren't born yet, Dabura was in hell, Majin Bu was asleep, Moro was weak and in prison and King Cold was old.
And that's it. He worked for Frieza because He was paid well and probably had many planets for himself.
People just forgets Frieza is also the richest being in the universe, He may be a tyrant but He cared for his "stronger servants". In fact He does treat Ginyu with respect.
The captain was just having a good life; being a well paid soldier, for the strongest empire and the second strongest fighter (King Cold is retired from governments and fighting).
Plus: I don't really think Ginyu is interested in being the strongest, He wants to be number two, that's how Toriyama wrote this character.
He can do that in any form, but he needs to be able to speak to say "CHANGE!"
SO i am literally about to do my own video about the real captain Ginyu.... so I did a quick TH-cam search.. and then i get this... AH MAN :/
Yeah but if he took frieza's body he and his force can essentially rule the universe. But at the same time he may not be able to control frieza's body.
i always had that same theory about Ginyu and that wasnt his original body
I bet Ginyu traded a few bodies to get to the powerful body he was last known for.
I think the evil is balanced here. If Ginyu tried to take over the empire he would get stomped out by Cooler. The Body Change wouldn't work as Cooler would just see it coming.
What would happen if Ginyu were to switch bodies with someone like Gotenks, Gogeta or just anyone that happens to be fused and 30 minutes were to pass?
Well, the reason why Captain Ginyu has the same body in hell and we know that's not his original form might be because the body he has on Namek belongs to someone of his Original Species and they all look similar and was drawn the same way.
I always wondered how differently the series would play out if Cell had Ginyu's body switching technique.
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cell is way too proud to do that, and was hoping for gohan to be a challenge, so he LIKED stronger opponents
Kurachi84
Yeah that's true but in his time of desperation after 18 was ejected from his body he tried killing himself and everyone else, so it's very possible he might have used the technique. Captain Ginyu was a very proud and honorable fighter too, as seen when he had Goku and let him go, because of Jeice's interference, but he still used the technique too. It's DBZ anything could have happened.
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oh yeah, cell had 1 moment of losing.... but he may have known about his cells, so he knew he wasnt gonna die
i think he even says that, kinda...
I think that the reason he didn't switch bodies with any of the cold family because like you said he wouldn't know how to transform or know how to control their ki. If King Cold realizes that something is wrong that would be an easy kill for him.
Shit his ass probably enjoyed life as a frog.
03:00 The reason is simple if he would have changed his body with Frieza Cooler or King Cold would have killed him I know I am late by 5 years
You do know that certain minerals and other natural elements can change blood color for example a small shelled creature has fucking pink blood because it has alot of iron and zinc in its blood and the iron and zinc are combined into solid masses within its blood stream.
ginyu attack is probably just a one time thing if you have seen it you probably wont get tricked (except for vegeta), freeza has probably seen it and wont fall for it
Theres also the possibility that he couldn't. Frieza is constantly guarded by Dodoria and Zarbon. Even if he were to walk right through the front door, that attack takes time and odds are Frieza knows about the ability. In the few seconds it would take him to charge up the attack, he'd be dead.
I was thinking that too about Gohan with Ginyu poses
ginyu probably thought about switching w/frieza, but out of fear didn't. Frieza would do what vegeta did and avoid the technique b4 incapacitating ginyu.
That was only when Bulma built a translator.
What if Ginyu killed Goku and kept his body throughout the series? How would it change?
What if Ginyu in Gokus body became a Super Sayian and betrayed Freeza? How would Final form Freeza vs SSJ Ginyu go out?
It would be more bad ass if the Freeza saga was all about fighting ginyus spirit in different bodies. Like him being the brain behind all this.
fun fact: Ginyu's name is a pun on the Japanese word for Milk.
He switched bodies with bulma because bulma made a device that made him speak and he could pronounce the technique
what happens when ginyu swaps body with a fusion body like vegito or gogeta
idk if you did this question video but, Why doesnt Vegeta keep his body after death, whereas frieza cell etc. do?
He was only able to change bodies as a frog because of the device Bulma built for him that made him able to speak. He has to verbally speak the name of the ability to use it.
I have a couple of theories as why Genyu doesn't switch body with Frieza.
- First, he probably can't because of the large gap in power levels. We see him switching only with people that are yes stronger than him, but not that much. Goku is more or less twice stronger than him, and Vegeta is probably in between. I think the tecnique suffers from a resistance of the other person, and since in Dragon Ball everything becomes stronger with higher power levels (at least before Cell saga), I think Genyu knows that Frieza would most probably be able to resist the effect of the body switching.
- Second, and I know we have no clue of this, there's always the possibility that Frieza somehow knows how to perform the same tecnique, making it useless.
What do you guys think?
KnightAlbert well this is a very late response but I think the power to change bodies is exclusive to only ginyu, I can't see it as something that you can just learn, nor can I see his body swapping ability as something you can resist, however if your faster then Ginyu and can easily get out of the way such as Freiza can that's another story.
I don't think it makes sense that Captain Ginyu has changed bodies in the past...
The entire concept of " not being able use the body to its full potential initially" was something Ginyu did not know until he changed bodies with Goku.
Remember? He expected to have 180 000 of Ki as soon as he got Goku's body. Goku himself had to explain to Ginyu why he was so weak after the change.
then again goku was at 90000 or less before kaioken so it could be that he expected to be weaker than goku was at the time but not quite as weak as he was. maybe there is a percentage the power level drops from the change and ginyu expected to be at double what he was.
The idea that you can hide or boost your power without a transformation wasn't really a wide spread spread idea as Qui, Dodoria, Zarbon, and the Ginyu's were unaware of it even though Zarbon could change and Frieza was known to have other forms as Vegeta calls him out on it feeling cocky he matched him up to that point. What you read was what what they had so Ginyu expected ~180k not knowing that was Kaoikenx2 and since he doesn't know that technique he got less then half of what he expected. It also semi taps him after using it's use proportional to time so his 23,000 was right after the switch before he recovered to ~90k and could fight Krillin, Gohan, and a weakened Ginyu body.
I think Ginyu is, at this point happy about being a frog because, if he didn't want to be a frog he would have put some effort into changing.
Have you even watched Super? He switched bodies with Tagoma, just to be killed by Vegeta
***** Nope. But... I guess now I know.
Ginyu, in his frog form, is shown in the Cell Saga outside of Goku's House, Peering through the window and crying. Does anybody remember this?
Even if he doesn't, he wasn't able to withstand the body he'd switch with because he'd need time to get used to it. He'd also have the same techniques as before, not the same techniques as Frieza or Goku because he was the same soul, same mind, new body to get used to.
As i recall when ginyu was in bulmas form/body he said he never saw frieza in his final form and that it was his chance to take it. My theory is for safety frieza never let ginyu get to see his real body and also warned the rest of his family. But before he had a chance piccolo figured out he was ginyu in bulma's body and his plot was foiled if that hadn't happen most likely ginyu would have stolen frieza's body. Then again ginyu could have the same problem with what happened with goku's body.
The body swap seems to lock people into position fo a smooth transfer. I think he could have gotten Freeza's body. If I was him I would have never made my body change ability publicly known.
ginyu frog keeps showing up in dragonball super
But he's pretty dumb he can still change bodies with beerus or whis he can still do it as a frog
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hahaha, posing beerus would be funny
+Kurachi84 yea lol
Also Ginyu couldn't take Friezas body because Frieza knew his body change technique which is not immediate and could probably easily dodge it (considering goku threw a frog in the way of it) and would then proceed to kill Ginyu.
when captain giyue does the body swap I always go blaalala oh god oh god blaalalla
Ginyu didn't take his body because he was loyal to Frieza, but you misused loyal when I think you meant 'honorable'
maybe captain ginyu didn't want the burden of ruling a legion? it's probably a lot less responsibility.
Is the thing about Ginyu's body on Namek not being his original body canon? Because I don't remember seeing or hearing that in the manga or anime. Is it just filler? Or is it in the Daiszenshu (sorry if I didn't spell that right)
Frieza was definitely aware of ginyu body change technique Frieda may be a coward sometimes but he is a intelligence guy,ginyu on the other hand didn't wanna take the chance of attempting the body change technique on frieza because if frieza counters it then ginyu is fucked or maybe he sought that goku is a strong warrior that can match and surpass frieza wanted to use goku body to become stronger than frieze or to change bodies with frieze and if he fails he has a back up plan in having goku's body
Wasn't the possible reason why Ginyu tried not to switch bodies is because he wanted to form a alinace with Freiza to destroy the world.
Do you really have to peak your mic at the start of the video in every video?
this is interesting but i think sometimes fans overthink things. Maybe even Akira Toryama didnt think so much about it ;D
I can't imagine Ginyu betraying Frieza. He's so loyal that he can even be trusted with the dragonballs.
Also, I can't see how Guldo and Ginyu together could overthrow Frieza.
I agree
easy,guldo can stop the time for as long he hold his breath and in that time ginyu can use his body change technic on frieza and then gg wp
lazaros Peidis If Guldo freezes time Ginyu is frozen too.
nope because guldo can choose which one to freeze and which not
lazaros Peidis He can? Can you provide an example?
What's the soundtrack name?