Where Does Optimus Prime's Trailer Go When He Transforms? The Subspace Storage Pocket!

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  • @Achieme
    @Achieme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +261

    The subspace storage is a fascinating idea, It's also a good excuse in case people say "that came out of nowhere WTF" or "where did that come from?"

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I always referred to that as "out of left field".

    • @Rusty-Doggo
      @Rusty-Doggo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      "Who cares, I'm more worried about where it's going" -Cliffjumper

    • @dragonweyr44
      @dragonweyr44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Rom the space knight used a subspace storage to store his weapons as well

    • @DanielGarcia-mr3fl
      @DanielGarcia-mr3fl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can agree

    • @matthewreynoso6904
      @matthewreynoso6904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Never realized that Optimus in the Last Knight used the Subspace in that one scene.

  • @kattphud
    @kattphud 2 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    I think the subspace pocket technology is the true secret to transformation, allowing robot parts and vehicle parts to seemingly exist in the same areas, as well as where cargo and passenger space would be. However, because the technology is so energy-intensive, mechanical articulation is used heavily to minimize energy used during transformation.

    • @fivenightsatmimikus7508
      @fivenightsatmimikus7508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Interesting, tell me more

    • @ВасилийМорозов-л7х
      @ВасилийМорозов-л7х 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Basically, the visible transformation, meaning alteration of outer shape, occurs mechanically, while interior transformation that creates cockpits, car seats etc. is done by subspace magic.

    • @websterrainey7379
      @websterrainey7379 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fasho

    • @klaykid117
      @klaykid117 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This would also make a lot of sense with beast wars as it's a sequel series to G1, the transformers in that series adopted smaller bodies to save on energy on. It would also make sense that they stop using this dimension cuz it's just so energy on intensive. Visually at least it makes sense because when they transform on that show, it's very accurate to how the toys transform my personal favorite being how optimus Primal's legs spin backwards

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@ВасилийМорозов-л7х I always assumed that they were made of a material that could change shape.

  • @thepeternetwork
    @thepeternetwork 2 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Two things:
    1) I never thought to store Optimus Prime's fists & weapons inside his trailer. That would have significantly decreased the chances of them getting lost.
    2) There was a Robot Chicken episode that explained what happens when Optimus Prime's trailer doesn't respond to his transformation, and it definitely had nothing to do with the "subspace storage pocket".

    • @andrewgrant2990
      @andrewgrant2990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I kept his & Ultra Magnus' fists inside the chest cab!

    • @mrf19741
      @mrf19741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I saw that episode!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @matthewreynoso6904
      @matthewreynoso6904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Have you seen the one where Optimus gets prostate cancer? 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

    • @ronaldking1054
      @ronaldking1054 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The G1 toy had a spot for the gun itself in the trailer where the gun mounted to the deck, but there would be no reason to place the fists in the trailer as the fists had a storage location in front of his head when the head was rotated downward for the cab. The arms would fold back and then the forearms would rotate forward, which ensured that the fists could not leave the compartment. There is a plastic line, which actually makes it less likely for the fists to move around. The only problem is if someone were to pull his chest forward in that mode. On the other hand, there is nothing securing the fist in the trailer. No, it does not make them less likely to get lost. It does the reverse.

    • @thepeternetwork
      @thepeternetwork 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matthewreynoso6904 A rather unique take on the whole "death of Optimus Prime" bit from Transformers The Movie (1986, AKA the good one).

  • @FlamesofJagger
    @FlamesofJagger 2 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    This is why I liked later iterations of Prime, where he combined with his trailer. It makes more sense as a combat deck/ base mode before he went to his supermodes

    • @theredguy4043
      @theredguy4043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Power master was an awesome way for prime to combine with his trailer. Then armada made it into a pair of pants

  • @BatFan1
    @BatFan1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +126

    In my head as a kid I would figure OP's trailer would just follow him around (with Roller driving) and once he transformed back into a truck the trailer would just come to him via some telekinetic connection. But then there were the times it would simply vanish, so maybe Prime was using cloaking tech. But that would not explain the mass shifting and other use of "sub-space" with the other Transformers.
    Since it wasnt covered in this video I imagine no one has written a story on who discovered the sub-space and the way to access it.

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Not to mention that the trailer couldn't just roll off screen if he went somewhere far away from it and then transformed with it there. Best example is in The Search for Alpha Trion , Prime transforms into robot mode and goes through a space bridge. On Cybertron he escapes from the Decepticons with Elita One and transforms back with the trailer.

    • @valmid5069
      @valmid5069 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Fun Fact: *OP’s Trailer’s laser guns fired on Megs in one such battle; Roller once saved Prime’s life in IDW comics*

    • @jurnagin
      @jurnagin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RodimusPrimal true but the producers rushed the making of cartoon on tight schedule and didn't re edit to fix plenty of mistakes or mishapes, The most logical is roller carrying it around only when Optimus wandered from it

  • @nicholaspeberdy8537
    @nicholaspeberdy8537 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    It amazed me on how Prime's trailer can appear and disappear every time he transformed.

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It's like magic to us. To them it's like an I-phone.

    • @andrewgrant2990
      @andrewgrant2990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's because he has the touch!

    • @darthpaul99
      @darthpaul99 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@twistedyogert magic is just technology we don’t understand.

    • @tetravega567
      @tetravega567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@andrewgrant2990 He has the POWAAAA to store his trailer in subspace...

    • @jasonjohnson9132
      @jasonjohnson9132 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      😆😅🤣😂

  • @jdpragmatic8644
    @jdpragmatic8644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Sometimes Megatron’s silencer and stock extend out of his gun mode.
    Other times it flies in out of thin air and connects to his gun mode.
    I always find it amusing that Sub space storage has become a convenient creation to explain animation errors.

    • @ttamcc.4674
      @ttamcc.4674 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yup😂 cause that is exactly wat it is

    • @maximaldinotrap
      @maximaldinotrap 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ttamcc.4674 I mean it is a pretty good one though.

  • @joshcope9485
    @joshcope9485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm glad you addressed this topic. As an adult fan, I am surprised at how often my peers will dismissed my interest in a child's toy. But I like to think I can explore an interesting fantasy world with a mature perspective. A video like this is an easy way for me to show my friends and family that there real and engaging conversations to be had involving the intellectual property.

  • @diecastnorbz
    @diecastnorbz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Best use of Prime’s trailer was when he carried all the Dinobots to Atlantis in “Atlantis Arise”! I think the sub space pocket is a great idea for storage but think that it’s exclusive for each bot and probably is a parallel dimension that lives in four and one dimensional space simultaneously probably working as further encryption to the sub space dimension.

  • @DeltaOdyssey
    @DeltaOdyssey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    While I'm not the biggest transformers fan, I really love videos like these which talk about the history of the series. I also find this video really interesting, since it's always fun to hear about how something that started out as a limitation of the medium becomes an integral part of a franchises lore.

  • @maybetoby
    @maybetoby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It's also common in any Japanese superhero show. Power Rangers for example summon their weapons from the "Morphin Grid."

  • @geechie-don7157
    @geechie-don7157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Awesome video and explanation. As kids, we would debate and theorize that Primes trailer possibly went to the same place Skywarp would temporarily enter when he vanished. But having it be personal makes more sense. Also clears up how Soundwave can store all those compressed energon cubes!

  • @Gojirawars03
    @Gojirawars03 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Always liked the movie/Prime approach of primarily using weapons built into the bodies of every robot. It was always a cool look seeing Optimus form a blaster out of his arm, or movie Megatron turning his hand into a flail.

  • @AE-jo2fy
    @AE-jo2fy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I didn't realize this was one of those fan-originated concepts. It's cool to see the origin story of such a major idea!

  • @alexrocks1843
    @alexrocks1843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great concept because it makes Transformers not have to carry around there weapons all the time 😁

  • @torrancemoore6152
    @torrancemoore6152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I always accepted the subspace idea for the trailer but I always took the live action approach for the random gadgets in that they were built in and they could just transform individual parts of the body. Maybe as time went on though, the animators/writers kind of peeped how convenient the subspace idea was and added the energy flashes in to canonize it. Hell, you could even explain mass-shifting and skywarp's teleporting with it.

  • @fa14fighterjet
    @fa14fighterjet ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love how the transformers fandom is practically creating revolutionary scientific concepts to account for basic animation errors and continuity issues

  • @OrionOodama
    @OrionOodama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Subspace storage.
    Over three (3) decades later, this revealed concept finally explains the whereabouts of Optimus' trailer plus the other odd features of many Transformers.
    As a "Voltes Five" audience/fan, it was not much of a surprise that Autobots/Deceptions can retract their hands to unveil respective various weapons which were seen on the series' earliest episodes only to become rare later on.
    Rather argue and speculate, I am happy and appreciative this has answered.
    Great presentation, as always.
    And glad to see you back, Sir RodimusPrimal. ^^
    Let the needed provisions come out from the subspace storage as well.

  • @jaysgamingcorner8539
    @jaysgamingcorner8539 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In my head the Transformers are such an advanced form of alien technology that they have powers/abilities beyond our understanding. For them it makes perfect sense that there are hidden weapons/devices within their bodies. For us it seems incredible. Kind of like the transporter in Star Trek. In Enterprise that technology seems weird and dangerous. By the time of DS9 or Voyager it's routine. Hope I explained that in a way that make sense, great video.

  • @Benjamin0119
    @Benjamin0119 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    It is a shame Optimus didn't have his trailer transform more often in the cartoon. I guess the writers couldn't think of good uses for it.
    For the longest time, I thought the glowing on Optimus' trailer in that episode was because he was struggling to transform due to Soundwave's, uh, sound wave attack (one wonders why he didn't use such a devastating ability more often haha.) But maybe it is because of the trailer coming from the subspace storage pocket.
    The weapons appearing and disappearing on Ravage and Cyclonus are undeniable, though. And I don't know why I never think of the stock and silencer on Megatron, which he never uses in robot mode. Yep, Omega Supreme MUST be using it, otherwise he would he stuck in rocket mode until he made the round trip back to where he left the rest of himself!
    The gadgets that pop out of arms I don't count. Those seem to be part of the Transformers' bodies. Although, you have to wonder how they can store so many gadgets in their arms, and where their hands go haha.
    Hmm, far-fetched. I don't think so. Not when we already have a space-faring race of sentient alien robots, some of which can shrink! 🙂

    • @Hektols
      @Hektols 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, they should have used the trailer more often, it was Optimus special ability after all.

  • @arcturionblade1077
    @arcturionblade1077 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:40 TIE Fighter sound effect used for Skywarp crashing into Thundercracker.

  • @gone3281
    @gone3281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    finally one of those conversation left for another day made reality!

  • @bearnaff9387
    @bearnaff9387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite use of subspace came from an early-ish piece of fanfic, and the most delicious "What?" moment. IIRC, it was set between the series and the 1986 movie. Spike had been offworld for some time and was catching up with Carly when... Maybe Decepticons attacked? I honestly cannot remember who it was, but I remembered the attack beginning and Spike turning to lead Carly away and just pausing, because she hda brought her hand up in front of her and a blaster dropped into it from subspace. It was the perfect spot for a cliffhanger.

  • @DJSpaceRetrotunes
    @DJSpaceRetrotunes 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *_We, the Transformers G1 hardcore fans_* : "Wow where all these parts went after transformations? Must be the _subspace_ " or "How Constructicons form Devastator inside Astrotrain? That's definetely due to _mass shifting_ "
    *_Hasbro HQ_* : "Dudes relax. We just wanna release toys"
    Anyway, We love Transformers G1! Great videos man! keep up!

  • @Shenanirats
    @Shenanirats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As a kid I just thought the trailer broke down into panels and became part of his legs... of course, we never really saw that in the cartoons. I do thoroughly enjoy and accept the sub-space explanation.
    I once read a fanfiction [pretty sure it wasn't official] years ago where Jazz subspaced Spike when they fell off a cliff. Spike was okay, but "purged his tanks" after. I had a good laugh. Cemented sub-space for me as a concept.

  • @Vipermecha
    @Vipermecha 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There was a piece back then that talked about the subspace storage pocket, it said that it was limited to transformers built with cybertonium, basically the alloy that gives them access to said dimension, in that topic, it also said about how the G1 Dinobots having no access to the subspace pocket as they were built on Earth without cybertonium, as so, they don't change mass when they transform or their weapons pulled out of nowhere, now they may have been "upgraded" during and after the 1986 movie, but I leave that to you.

  • @mindwipe8788
    @mindwipe8788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The first time I saw Optimus and Megatron use their respective gladiatorial weapons.
    It made me wonder if the other autobots and decepticons would have if they had similar built in weapons and what would they be.

    • @ВасилийМорозов-л7х
      @ВасилийМорозов-л7х 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ironhide and Wheeljack have hand nozzles that can shoot various chemicals, Jazz has a grapple hook, Prowl has an energy net...

  • @andrewgrant2990
    @andrewgrant2990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video sir- thanks for updating it! I thought one of the graphics was from a certain TV show that featured travel to parallel dimension. I always love it when that show gets a shout out!

  • @thehoopsobserver9078
    @thehoopsobserver9078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for remastering this video. This is an interesting concept

  • @RazyelKayneReviews
    @RazyelKayneReviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great remaster my friend, this was again a very interesting video, I love the concept of the subspace storage pocket, it's a perfect tool. Great work!

  • @TheRManProds
    @TheRManProds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THAT CAME OUT OF NOWHERE!

  • @matthewreynoso6904
    @matthewreynoso6904 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Isn’t Optimus’ trailer being able to appear and reappear when he transforms one of the coolest things ever or what? It sure is to me, love the Subspace Storage Pocket!

  • @TheRealDustinNunn
    @TheRealDustinNunn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Optimus Prime is one of my favorite Transformers characters of all time.

  • @TK4541
    @TK4541 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Have we thanked the master, Masami Obari for G1 Optimus' transformation sequence? Even he had no idea where to put the trailer.

  • @johnnela8898
    @johnnela8898 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rodimus Primal is the Best Transformers Reviewer in TH-cam 💪

  • @barbw1974
    @barbw1974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Was waiting for this to come out! :)

  • @windsweeper8002
    @windsweeper8002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Optimus Prime is tired of fans asking where his trailer goes. He just wants to put it behind him...

  • @gafranksauthor630
    @gafranksauthor630 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The sub space storage concept is totally part of the inspiration behind some of my books. That and the Centurions cartoons :) Proper 80s cartoons nerd here :)

  • @theafroalien3169
    @theafroalien3169 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Advanced technology that seems almost magical…yep,that most definitely fits within the concept of truly advanced technology. That’s why I liked the concept of bendable and stretchable alloy for their face and skin in the G1 anime as opposed to mechanical facial joints depicted in the live action movie. That concept of stretchy alloy vs joints is by far technologically superior.

  • @StarFighters76
    @StarFighters76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's a bit weird how when Ultra Magnus transformed along side Optimus (shown towards the end), that his trailer came out of nowhere, since his trailer is also part of his body lol.

    • @foldabotZ
      @foldabotZ ปีที่แล้ว

      He transformed into the white cab.

  • @TrueSighted
    @TrueSighted 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had that Optimus Prime toy as a young boy back in the 80s. Flashback to the past.

  • @michaeldublg
    @michaeldublg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was awesome.
    Based on the evidence, it's a perfect explanation.
    ....
    I hereby Proclaim it to be!

  • @felicity4711
    @felicity4711 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The subspace storage pocket, in those exact words, appeared in a _Rom_ comic back in 1985, and ever since reading that comic I’ve been using it as the explanation to where Transformers keep components and other objects that disappear and reappear. I was surprised to find it show up decades later as a common fan explanation, seemingly independent of its _Rom_ usage :-)

  • @mattwarner3611
    @mattwarner3611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could you maybe do a video on the battle strategy for autobots retaking Cybertron in the 1986 movie.

  • @captainfantastic9158
    @captainfantastic9158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    While watching G1 Season One back in the day, I asked my big brother, "Where does Prime's trailer go when he transforms to robot mode?"
    He answered, "Probably to an alternate dimension."
    BOOM! All Transfans think alike! 😉

  • @dontemorgan1517
    @dontemorgan1517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One biggest mysteries in transformers history where the trailer just shows up out of nowhere.

    • @blueraccoon1088
      @blueraccoon1088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's another big mystery in transformers

  • @jeremygeorgia4943
    @jeremygeorgia4943 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always figured, that they had the ability to transform matter into energy & back, and they had a limited ability to manipulate the form, as it materializes. This would be why they have the ability to reprogram their alternate form from Cybertronian vehicles into Earth Vehicles. This would also be why Soundwave could turn himself, into a microcassette player. Unused matter would simply be turned into energy & stored into a personal storage capacitor.

  • @ForburyLion
    @ForburyLion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like to think of Subspace storage being run by a cosmic storage company, Potentially if the Transformer fails to pay their rental fees they may find their storage container get auctioned off as part of a TV show.

  • @originalmroldschool
    @originalmroldschool 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always liked to imagine, particularly in the movie when Prime blasts off into his transformation, that the trailer would become a projectile and smash into the Decepticons who were turning to follow Prime's flight. Always gave me a chuckle.

  • @texasbeast239
    @texasbeast239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While Soundwave and Megatron had to rely on mass shifting, I don't think OP ever needed a subspace pocket. I think its disappearance was just lazy animation. The trailer driving itself around was, too. So in my head canon, he would have to stop, drop the trailer, and Roller could then move it around short distances, like a day cab or yard tractor truck.
    TFs was primarily meant to be a toy line. His trailer was a cool part of the toy. So when we were young, my circle of friends weren't prone to just setting the trailer aside. We disregarded the cartoon's tendency to do just that.
    I don't think we need to rationalize the cartoon's inconsistencies with scale, color, deaths, nearly as much as has been done. Much of the time, the animation was simply wrong because the animators had to rush and cut corners. I accept that as RW truth, but not in universe.

  • @mattp2557
    @mattp2557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always 👍

  • @barbw1974
    @barbw1974 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t wait for the remaster of the Dinobots, and hot rod/ rodimis prime retrospectives

  • @taqresu5865
    @taqresu5865 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know if you've ever read Animorphs, but the book series has a very similar concept.
    Animorphs is a scholastic book series in which 5 human kids discover a secret alien invasion on Earth and obtained a technologically advanced device that allows them to morph into any organism they touch directly.
    It established a version of Subspace that allows alien space craft to travel faster than the speed of light, and it's a storage area for all the mass the kids would need to morph. If they transform into a creature much smaller than a human, them most of that human mass would be sent to subspace, and if they transform into a creature much more massive than a human, they would draw mass from Subspace. But instead of being similar to a pocket dimension, Animorphs depicted it as parallel part of the universe that humans haven't discovered yet.
    In that sense, it could help explain how mass shifting works in the Transformers Universe.

  • @gtx-xh5hy
    @gtx-xh5hy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man! Amazing video! I would never thought about a poket dimension

  • @angelomendoza1174
    @angelomendoza1174 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the Scott Pilgrim graphic novels, Ramona Flowers used subspace frequently during deliveries. The retractable fists becoming weapons also seen on Voltes V and Combattler V anime series using it's ability. In the G1 S2 episode "Blaster Blues", it concerns Optimus Prime's trailer, in this bizzare scene, a trailer quickly chases to get to Optimus Prime rolling out in truck mode!

  • @Ryder-a-Blaze
    @Ryder-a-Blaze 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the helpful information Primal

  • @rdelossantos3rdls
    @rdelossantos3rdls 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Keep up the good work!

  • @darkreigncometh
    @darkreigncometh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, this answers a question I had since we were kids!

  • @Shamano37
    @Shamano37 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A fan theory basically became Canon, that's how amazing Transformers is

  • @XGlite015
    @XGlite015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time I learned about this subspace concept was from an episode of Justice League when a GL hid items in a pocket dimension. By the time I saw Peacemaker's dad's secret room, I already understood that it's hidden in a pocket dimension.

  • @diegos7337
    @diegos7337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the best ways to explain this!

  • @charleschamp9826
    @charleschamp9826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So what happens to the items a Transformer has in subspace if they die? Do the items just get spewed out somewhere, are they stuck/lost in subspace, or could someone use their remains (perhaps data store in their systems) to call those items back?

  • @Luke63517
    @Luke63517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:24 he didn't pull that out of thin air!

  • @multivewer
    @multivewer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've also heard of "hammerspace' referred to as 'the magic satchel" but I guess all of its kind of the same concept as a bag of holding.
    But I honestly think it could be a little of both the subspace storage pocket and certain components just simply being part of them that can fold out or transform out at times, such as at the end of this video with wheeljack just simply folding out a barrel in his forearm or soundwaves scanner.

    • @Nagatem
      @Nagatem 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Link being able to hold all his huge weapons in his nonexistent carry bags

  • @eidolonfilmsukuk8456
    @eidolonfilmsukuk8456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hmm. As far as I recall, Subspace storage originates from Rom, in which Bill Mantlo had Rom's various weapons disappear into 'subspace' when he wasn't using them. With transformers also being a Marvel licence, and indeed the entire premise being devised by Bob Budiansky at Marvel, and the comics originally being marvel canon (then retconned out when it became an ongoing series), the in-continuity concept of Rom's subspace storage was just carried over into Transformers.

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting. That makes a LOT of sense. I'll admit I never read ROM even though I have the final issue. It is a possibility, though the disappearing was a Marvel Productions thing. The terms origins make sense though because it was originally a fan term with Transformers in message boards, so some TF fans most likely were also fans of ROM too.

    • @eidolonfilmsukuk8456
      @eidolonfilmsukuk8456 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RodimusPrimal I'm sure I recall Subspace being used in the 80's In transformers. Probably in the marvel UK letters pages, if nothing more. It's a term/explanation I've been using since 80's g1 days, long before the internet, and it came from somewhere.
      I recommend tracking down the complete run of Marvel ROM, it's probably Marvel's overall best 80's series, and has some real standout issues.

  • @zenmaster24
    @zenmaster24 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    it would be interesting to find out if primus gave them this ability and they use it natively, or if it is some sort of upgrade they've added themselves

  • @Pahllthecat
    @Pahllthecat หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I always wondered where his trailer went. Now, with this "subspace storage" thing, it kind of makes sense. I am watching my DVD set for the first time and seeing glitches I forgot about and ones I'd never noticed or seen. Like when Optimus Prime and Megatron fight with the ax and mace. Megatron's fusion cannon suddenly disappears. I kept searching for the missing foreign episode thinking I screwed up, although I know I didn't skip anything. Then I looked it up and found out the explanation. I recently gave up and resumed the DVD.

  • @171QA
    @171QA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for answering this.

  • @thedragonslayer7294
    @thedragonslayer7294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hasbro needs to make a Kingdom Optimus Primal repaint in Hot Rod colors and name it “Rodimus Primal” in honor of this man.

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or perhaps another figure. I'd imagine him having flight like a griffin or Phoenix.

    • @thedragonslayer7294
      @thedragonslayer7294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@RodimusPrimal That would be cool as well 😎

  • @shootingreal5945
    @shootingreal5945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid on a topic we always asked ourselves as kids watching TF.

  • @Blackblax
    @Blackblax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It makes sense, especially since comic books have been using subspace storage & pocket dimensions as a means of storing things. I'm just glad there's a canon term for it & just wish it was used/explained more in other TF media. I never really liked the live-action TF movies, because of the bad designs, lack of a real story, non-adherence to continuity, & their overuse of action & destruction. I'd much rather prefer they take some time out to explain concepts such as this, instead of all that mindless battles & explosions. Although I grew up on G-1, Beast Wars was my fave, because they actually took time out to explain things & tied it to the lore & continuity, as best they could. I hated w/ BW devolved into its follow-up sequel Beast Machines, because it kinda revert back to G-1's lackluster formula.

  • @tetravega567
    @tetravega567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Odo & The Founder Changelings in Star Trek DS9 are also said to store their extra mass in subspace.

  • @captaindan3456
    @captaindan3456 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Of course the animators sometimes get it wrong compared to the toys. At 10:58 of the video it shows Ultra Magnus's trailer roll in behind him when he transforms where the toys cab and trailer combines together.

  • @TransformersRocks1YT
    @TransformersRocks1YT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1st and love your videos bro keep it up

  • @yetanotherspuart3993
    @yetanotherspuart3993 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Prime always looks best as truck and trailer.
    Without it, something looks off.

  • @matthewakian2
    @matthewakian2 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I was reading the Transformers UK comic, it was implied from answers on the letters page that Prime's trailer, and the mass of Transformers that shrunk down while transforming went to a pocket universe.

  • @paxhumana2015
    @paxhumana2015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You know, what is being said here could theoretically apply to real world scientific principles and, to be honest, such things could honestly be decades, if not at least centuries, or even millennia, ahead of the curve...let that sink in for a bit.

  • @rickcs7050
    @rickcs7050 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did thundercracker and skywarp just sounded like a TIE fighter in minute 3:43?

    • @RodimusPrimal
      @RodimusPrimal  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep they used Star Wars and Star Trek sound effects throughout the cartoon.

  • @rashb3994
    @rashb3994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Once I saw the "The upside down" in Strange Things, subspace made perfect sense.

  • @TheRManProds
    @TheRManProds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    His Trailer just Disappears like that!

  • @dennissuijkerbuijk8065
    @dennissuijkerbuijk8065 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best way to describe this personal storage as the TARDIS from Doctor who. Pocket dimension Linked to the owner.

  • @aer0planejelly911
    @aer0planejelly911 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The theory fits, it does explain how Megatron sheds mass to fit into Starscream's hand when he transforms.

  • @TerryTurner
    @TerryTurner 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    With Cybertronian Magic!😉😁

  • @vassa1972
    @vassa1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good stuff

  • @PushingThroughThePain
    @PushingThroughThePain 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought this up like 30 years ago with stories I would create while playing with my Legos as a kid 😅
    Great minds

  • @byronugalde3158
    @byronugalde3158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The mass shifting and sub-space sounds interesting, I had no problem with this when I was kid, now welll... the trailer is out of focus of the camera thus is not seen. I like those videos and fans comentaries due they are interesting and later Hasbro adopt them... way to go Transformers G1 fans!🥳👍

  • @kevinault7796
    @kevinault7796 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Optimus Prime needs his own movie

  • @dragonweyr44
    @dragonweyr44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please do a video on mass shifting and why Transformers have seemingly unlimited ammo and never need to reload

  • @chadnine3432
    @chadnine3432 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer the idea that their gear is either stored in a conventional space, or transforms with them. But mass-shifting and subspace pockets are necessary, especially for some of the more far-out transformations. I do like that the G1 cartoon depicted the phase in/out effect to show that they were at least aware of it.

  • @Maine307
    @Maine307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO !!!!!!!!!!! I am 46 yrs old, grew up with these Gen 1 in the 80's ... had lots of transformers and watched them every day on Chicago channel 9 Cable tv.. rushed home from school..for the 4pm to 5pm tv slot..Gi Joe and Transformers.. unless they were playing some baseball game early .. but yeah... not only this question, but do the seem to change sizes soo easily? also, i just watched gen 1 season 1 ep 1-3 ... why did they stop flying????

  • @AudioCassettesBINCLAS
    @AudioCassettesBINCLAS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool bro (2nd comment yay) I always wondered where the trailer went thx bro for explaining!!

  • @bobsav76
    @bobsav76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subspace is as good an explanation as any.

  • @loutzenheiser6081
    @loutzenheiser6081 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I definitely accept this!

  • @kayvaanmcsharrowkyn6901
    @kayvaanmcsharrowkyn6901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is hilarious I've been thinking about this question since 1986 thank you for answering it for me LOL🤣🤣

  • @josephtodd5918
    @josephtodd5918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    keep up the good work Rodimus

    • @josephtodd5918
      @josephtodd5918 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you're every bit of good as Optimus ever was

  • @aircraftcarrierwo-class
    @aircraftcarrierwo-class 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kind of amazing how a setting's lore and background tech can change when the original animators don't particularly care about what happens to something.

  • @arnoldmayii3563
    @arnoldmayii3563 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent idea

  • @gregorylieber8362
    @gregorylieber8362 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That Omega Supreme shuttle launch always bothered me. I never considered its the same as primes trailer which never bothered me lol

  • @douglasbrownell2704
    @douglasbrownell2704 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love the concept from day one. There is now a toy called the G3 trailer that mimics the storage subspace pocket. It does that by mirroring the sides the top the front and the back of the trailer with mirrors. It's not exactly the subspace storage pocket but it's a nice try. Just be warned the trailer is extremely expensive. Hundred to $150 or one more in US dollars.

    • @fatenabu1
      @fatenabu1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      where can i see this

    • @douglasbrownell2704
      @douglasbrownell2704 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fatenabu1 what exactly Can not see? Please be specific.

    • @fatenabu1
      @fatenabu1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@douglasbrownell2704 Where can I find this g3 trailer?

  • @MCDJACDC
    @MCDJACDC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As always great work! With regards to Megatron, I wonder how he went from being able to be held by fellow Transformers to be able to he held by a human? I adjust assumed, like with so many other disappearing items, such as Optimus Prime's trailer it was just considered make believe 😉🙃