I have an LG LED TV for 12 years now. Still working without problems and it has been used every day. I never used the smart features, so I didn't miss them, when they were outdated.
As that TV is only 3 years old I'd be going back to the retailer and asking them to sort it, quoting Consumer Rights Act, as it's not acceptable for an expensive item like that to fail so soon.
I bought a 65" LG OLED ~6.5 years ago. LG did a recall and came and changed the PSU early 2020's when it was maybe 2.5Yrs old. About 9 months ago, of course out of its 5 year extended warranty, when it was switched off some relays on the PSU kept clicking loudly and irritatingly. Only solution was to unplug when not watching. Some research seemed to indicate it was the same fault as the recall was done for. Contacted LG, they said they would not replace the power board a 2nd time, even if it was the same fault. Offered a 3rd party repair quoted at £550! Couldn't source a replacement power board in the UK to do it myself as they had been discontinued, managed to get one from China off ebay for £120 incl. shipping. Been working fine for >6 months. Not buying another LG.
I agree, they should offer a sensible warranty that covers all parts for a least 5 years including the panel. I am no fan of Oleds yet customers continue to pay high prices for them often misled by reviewers that are only on here for the money
I bought me and my dad LG smart tvs a few years ago and both of them had backlit LEDs. Both of them were dying one at a time until it got really noticeable. Running a TH-cam’white test screen’ shown about half of the 48 lit. I contacted LG explaining that we had two tvs bought on the same day with the same fault. They weren’t interested and didn’t even offer a repair. Nearly £1000 spent just over a year previous. My dad also replaced his with a Samsung and just over a year later, the left side of the screen died, Samsung sent a guy out with parts and fixed it within the hour as it was a known issue. LG denied there was a known fault despite both of ours slowly dying.
Lg ( lucky gold star/ and Samsung were both companies to avoid in the eighties and yet somehow JVC, Mitsubishi etc have disappeared and lg / Samsung are at the top 🤔
People loving OLED in general has nothing to do with "brightness". It's about contrast and pure blacks. Also the response time of OLED pixel is way better than LCD (VA)
I wonder if part of the problem is that the customers want a thin TV. So the PCBs have funny shaped and maybe less reliable components to keep their profile low and heat sinks are kept to low profiles so are less effective.
I used to work in the domestic white goods repair industry and left due to the fact that people hated when I said to buy an new appliance washing machine etc due to the fact that a repair would not be economical compared to buying a new.
Red hot CPU usually indicates that a power stage has gone bad on the main board and dropped the main power rail voltage into it. Not fixable at component level unless you're good at CPU reball and replacement.
I abandon LG 2 years ago, after two TVs that didn't lasted more then 2 years. Don't get me wrong LG do fantastic TV and monitor panels, but somehow, their electronics have fallen into the cheap area. Is it their fault or a subsidiary ? Not sure. I bought a Samsung for the first time, and very happy with Qled. Hopefully it will last more then 2 years. I hope LG finds it's mark again. In the LCD, LED era, they were doing good TVs if I recall. I kind of miss the Sharp tvs, in a corner of my mind.
I had a Goldstar before it became LG. TV was programmed to turn itself on, and it did... Catch on fire - never bought that brand ever since, but instead got a Philips that does use LG panels.
I’ve had 2 Oled tv’s now in the last 6 years or so both Sony Bravia’s. I never once had any issue with screen burn in. LG created and owns oled technology and they license it to companies like Sony. I wonder if LG uses some sort of lesser technology that allows screen burn in? My current tv is the A95L 65” I bought it in October of 2023. The main board had an issue and was replaced in July of 2024. No issues since.
They're ALL going to suffer from it eventually if they live long enough as it's inherent to the technology, much as it was with CRT TVs. It all comes down to whether or not a person thinks it's a price worth paying for the vastly superior picture quality when compared to anything else. I personally think it is. LG seems to have nailed it from around 2017 as it's rare to see anyone complaining about it on models from the C7 onwards, most of which are still fine 7 years later unless they've had very heavy usage. There are always going to be some examples of early failure, but I've never had an LCD (falsely sold as "LED") TV last more than 5 years either without developing some kind of panel-related fault.
It depends on what you watch. OLED burn in is cause by the same pixels being lit too long - so a graphic on a sports program that doesn't change or if you leave a disc on a menu for too long or pause a movie or have a locked off camera feed. But if you just watch generic content where pixels tend to change continuously burn in isn't an issue. While I love OLED, I think mini LED is nearly as good and far less prone to problems.
We have a 55" Toshiba 4K TV that we've had now for about 5 years and still going strong... Was under £400 and our son bought it for us as an anniversary gift ... I'd love one of the newer OLED TVs for better picture quality as the only real fault with ours is in the daytime reflection coming in on the screen means its impossible to see the picture and sometimes you just can't see anything in the shadows on the TV.... Having seen all the issues with the new ones though I think I will just keep my money
My LG OLED 65" failed after about 2yrs but luckily I found a really good independent repair guy not far from me who knew exactly what was wrong and did an upgrade of components to make sure it didn't happen again. He advised on a repair/upgrade rather than a new board as the new board would die like the original one did. TV is still going strong but I need another 18mths of use before I can tell for real. Love the TV though.
Samsung 8000u 50inch bought on black friday deal. Argos £329. The screen failed after 13 months later. They don't make tv like they used to back in the days. Lg oled tv picture quality is 2nd to none. But the screen burns issues and 3x price of normal tv. Make me think twice. Even LG claiming their current LG oled . Less likely to suffer from screen retention problems. Which I highly doubt. Led/Lcd is definitely the better option. Just make sure you get an extended warranty. 2nd time round.
Given there aren't that many people doing TV repair these days but they are selling thousands of TVs, I don't think this is any indication of a high failure rate. I'd also be curious about the manufacture dates, as it may just be a bad batch from the factory so they all fail around the same time. Places like Richer Sounds offer 6 year warranties on these TVs. If they had a high failure rate, they would have gone bankrupt by now.
I have a second hand board for this tv. Infect I have many boards for this tv. I have seen loads of these tvs a very bad family of tvs from lg. They also suffered from a weird fault where you would put it into standby by over night and in the morning the standby light would be off and only way to turn it on was to unplug and leave for 5 minutes and plug back in. If you need a board I can put my hands on probably 10 main boards. I'm in the uk
@mikmatmel416 the standby fault is annoying and I've never been able to solve it. I've got 4 of these tvs and they all do the same yet annoying thing is when thereon they work fine
New board and next to it a (or several) 40x40mm quit fans, that might do the trick. I have an older LG OLED55 E model, it’s a (close to) topmodel, might have better thermals inside. I do not have any retention, might be you using it wrong. 😮
We HAVE to have a bright display, as my wife has macular degeneration & her central vision is affected, which is where are the colour-sensitive cones are. Which is why we have an Oled TV...
Trouble is all the components are proprietry. might it be worth grabbing a few donor boards for the more problematic models and soldering new components on as needed. But then its a hell of a higher workflow and the customer may as well just buy a new tv. God this reminds me of the plasma days and exploding screens.
What a shame, as I was considering an OLED if I ever needed to get a new one. Our LG 47" 1080p/240 Hz is fourteen years old and still going strong. I paid $1,700 back then before the prices dropped like a rock, but I'm not really sorry considering quality issues with new ones.
I replaced an LG 3D Led TV with a Sony around five years ago. It was still working but it was pumping out mains noise into my homes mains power supply. When the TV was turned on, it would create an audible hum through my home theatre system that was loud enough to be heard sitting 4m away. Even unplugging the LGs HDMI cable from the AVR wouldn't stop it. It would only stop when the LG was switched off, not really ideal for a home theatre system. Fortunately the Sony is silent when running.
Have you tried swapping the live and neutral around. If it’s a two pin lead going into your tv? Had a similar problem when I lived in Germany. Worth a try. Good luck.
@@brianjames6890 I'm in Australia and the mains active/neutral pins are angled so can only fit into the wall outlet one way. Also, the mains lead on my old LG was internally wired so unless they f'd up at the factory, it was correctly wired to the mains power.
No way. I have two sonys, a 50 and a 43, cost me £500 each in 2020. Then a second hand Hisense, costing £100. I don't need more. A story like that just horrifies me. I could also convert one of my 2 1980s CRT sets to accept a hdmi input.
I was almost tempted to get a G4 but now not so sure! Burn-in doesn’t seem to be so much of a problem as it was, but the QD-OLED panels used by Samsung and some Sony seem to look likely to suffer from it more. And the micro-LEDs have bloom and the lesser OLED Sonys seems too black. Not convinced by OLED and it’s perfect blacks as I never see any perfect blacks in reality.
Firstly, night time without lights on isn't perfect black to you? Secondly, the point of deep blacks is you see detail in dark scenes and it offers more illusion of depth due to the contrast ratio.
@@alexatkin maybe at night in an area without any light pollution but OLEDs show complete black in areas that in reality you don't see complete black, just a dark grey. They pick out detail that you don't see in reality, and show contrast ratios that may exist in reality, but they don't start from complete black upwards. Take all those demo screnes of flying over cities, it never looks like that when you are in a plane looking out at the city you are approaching. Those scuba/snorkling scenes never look as colourful and contrasty when you are doing it in real life. I've had times with my old Trinatron or Plasma when I've been at an event, come home and watched coverage of that event on the TV and it was similar to being there and looking through a pane of glass. Never quite seen that 'reallity' on an OLED, it is always 'enhanced'.
Think I'll avoid OLED and stick to LED. Won't be avoiding Life's Good though. I have several Life's Good LED, as do family and friends, they have all been good TVs for years with no faults. I also like Bony. Anything is better than Kestrel TVs under 10 different brands. I'd never buy those brands.
You say "a lot of money to part with", but a friend has just had (according to the engineer) "complete panel failure" on his £750 50" LG NanoCell TV that's only 3 years old. I've talked him into getting a 48" OLED TV as a replacement for £700 that's vastly superior to NanoCell in terms of picture accuracy. He's well aware of potential "burn-in" issues so is prepared to treat it with the same respect he would a CRT TV. That's all I've done with mine and it now has several thousand hours on it with around half of those watching 2.4:1 letterboxed content with no apparent ill-effects. I'm expecting it to become apparent at some stage as it's inherent to OLED, but I consider it a price worth paying as it's the only technology available in my price range that's capable of producing an accurate image.
I would say fix it, depending on how many hours on the panel, I find picture quality so much better than LCD so saying you can buy a 55 for £300+ whilst true ignores fact quality isn’t there. They are not so unreliable had my b6v since 2017 and it’s still going strong.
@@rjmahan Richer Sounds offers a 6 year warrant as standard. No way they would do that if the failure rate was high. LG are one of the top brands who sell the most TVs, so naturally you will see more of them at repair shops than other brands. Also as anyone buying a cheap TV is going to just throw it away, not attempt a repair.
You have to remember that that an order of magnitude more people who have problems will complain online, compared to 99% of users who have zero problems. Also a TV repair service is obviously not going to be somewhere that has reliable information on the failure rate. LG are pretty much the top brand so naturally as they sell more TVs than other brands, they are going to be more common at repair shops. Not excusing the fact they do not offer replacement parts at a fair price or for very long after they bring out a new model though. But that basically applies to all manufacturers these days.
I love the LG brand especially the tvs ' I have 3' but the older ones with the scarlet back , I am just in the process of repairing one here in Spain just the capacitor blown on the inverter , I just repair as an hobby have a 55inch samsung in at the minute must weigh less then half of the LG 37s 'nothing to them, ps love the channel.
Not sure that a blackfriday special (likely Vetsel or similar) LCD set is comparable to a £1500 OLED, yes same size and does the same job, but its like comapring a porsche to ford fiesta
I purchased a 65inch LG tv would never of purchased one if I new they had burn in no mention of it either from lg what's so ever over £2500 it cost plasma burn in was the death thd brand, LG is 7 years old the burn in started just over a year ago great picture but the reds are what got hit quite dark in the middle with netflix youtube letters and underline bars showing faintly. For the price of the TV LG should replace the screen......
Bush is a trading name now mostly used by Argos. Bush TV's mostly made in Turkey by Vestel. The same same sets, with cosmetic differences as those badged JVC, Toshiba, Hitachi, Techwood and many many more. All the same manufacturer and based on the same chassis and PSU. All reasonable quality and good reliability. Vestel don't make LCD panels so these have been bought from a Chinese manufacturer for the last 4 or 5 years and very much have been the weak link.........many fail on average 1-3 years and too expensive to replace. A few Bush labelled TV's are completely Chinese in origin. A very good mid level set IMHO.
ive just developed a backlight bleed on my 65" lg tv, it seems to be shining through from the bottom- up the screen about 3 inches, stands out more on bright pictures....gutted.
This is extremely common on all large LCD TVs, as the backlight diffuser de-laminates over time. Its not unique to any one brand that I'm aware of. My last Samsung has horrible colour issues (the backlight appears pink and changes tone across the screen) due to the same problem. People also have a nasty habit of having their TV where sunlight can shine on it, or near radiators, which will destroy it much faster.
Get rid of it buy a black friday deal loads around at the moment Sad to see but thats the thing now with TVs they are sadly just not built to last very long
O k I can tell you the brands to stay away from this holiday season. L. G Samsung Vizio Vizio limited edition And hisense Vizios are all rigged 2. The Chromecast built into the t.v when Google sends a faulty update to a Chromecast, they break the t.v And cause what is called the vizio black screen of death. Hisense Also has their tv rigged to the operating system Samsung decided to be the cheap bastard this holiday season By not using a real 4k panel but a Up converting 4K panel to cut costs. But still charge you $600 for a real 4K panel which isn't real. And let's not even get into l. G as you can see in this video, you're right. They're failing left and right. It's either power supply failure or worse t. V. Failure from bad screens LED drivers, it's a mess.
Allen, you are far more qualified than me to talk about TV repairs but not too sure I agree with you on burn in etc? I've had my 65 C9 for over five years and not a single problem. It's primary use is PC and console. I make sure that compulsory pixel refresh runs every 4000 hours (I think it is) and I have logo luminosity on and I've seen nothing. It's the best TV I've owned since the late 70s with one brilliant Panasonic Plasma .. Not sure what OLED model you are repairing here but my mate is a TV specialist and he generally chooses OLED. The failure rates on LED and LCD are far worse.. But it is a lottery. Mass produced means there will always be a percentage of iffy models. I personally can not go back to anything else after OLED. It's a night and day difference.
LED and LCD technology are effectively the same thing. The term "LCD" refers to the LCD panel or screen, where the image is generated. The term "LED" refers to the method of backlighting the screen..........The screen is the LCD panel! It is not true that they are less reliable than OLED, as most LED sets simply fail when one or more LED's in the backlight fail and need replaced, where most modern OLED TV's suffer from a fatal screen failure in their short life. It is mainly only recently manufactured LCD screens which fail that were produced in China. This includes most of the Samsung LCD's produced in approx the last 4 years..........after Samsung bought over a screen manufacturing plant.......in China!! When all is taken into consideration,the most reliable brand today is LG.........when you buy LCD.
It wouldn't be me, i try to avoid disposable tech? Lucky Goldstar, thats disposable tech 😂 oleds are trash, please keep us updated on how many of these horrible TVs turn up. In your opinion is this like hisense, built to last approx 3 years?
You are so so wrong in this video. OLED is not about being bright and more vivid colours at all, it’s about accuracy. LED-LCD is way brighter. Image retention, I’ve never heard any that have had problems and we are many OLED owners here for many years. I personally have owned OLED:s for about 8 years abslotuely no problems at all and a fantastic accurate picture.
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I have an LG LED TV for 12 years now. Still working without problems and it has been used every day. I never used the smart features, so I didn't miss them, when they were outdated.
As that TV is only 3 years old I'd be going back to the retailer and asking them to sort it, quoting Consumer Rights Act, as it's not acceptable for an expensive item like that to fail so soon.
There's several retailers in the UK that offer 5 years warranty as standard, so this CAN'T be that common or they'd go bankrupt.
I bought a 65" LG OLED ~6.5 years ago. LG did a recall and came and changed the PSU early 2020's when it was maybe 2.5Yrs old. About 9 months ago, of course out of its 5 year extended warranty, when it was switched off some relays on the PSU kept clicking loudly and irritatingly. Only solution was to unplug when not watching. Some research seemed to indicate it was the same fault as the recall was done for. Contacted LG, they said they would not replace the power board a 2nd time, even if it was the same fault. Offered a 3rd party repair quoted at £550! Couldn't source a replacement power board in the UK to do it myself as they had been discontinued, managed to get one from China off ebay for £120 incl. shipping. Been working fine for >6 months. Not buying another LG.
Surely it’s about time the manufacturers started being punished for making products that end in landfill after two years.
I agree, they should offer a sensible warranty that covers all parts for a least 5 years including the panel. I am no fan of Oleds yet customers continue to pay high prices for them often misled by reviewers that are only on here for the money
That will never happen. This is a perfect example why the whole recycling / net zero is nothing but a way to extract more money from us
Blame the investors.
@@Barbarapape lg do include a 5 year warranty with oleds
Except this video is bullshit. I have three LG oleds, one from 2017, all still working fine.
I bought me and my dad LG smart tvs a few years ago and both of them had backlit LEDs. Both of them were dying one at a time until it got really noticeable. Running a TH-cam’white test screen’ shown about half of the 48 lit. I contacted LG explaining that we had two tvs bought on the same day with the same fault.
They weren’t interested and didn’t even offer a repair. Nearly £1000 spent just over a year previous.
My dad also replaced his with a Samsung and just over a year later, the left side of the screen died, Samsung sent a guy out with parts and fixed it within the hour as it was a known issue. LG denied there was a known fault despite both of ours slowly dying.
Lg ( lucky gold star/ and Samsung were both companies to avoid in the eighties and yet somehow JVC, Mitsubishi etc have disappeared and lg / Samsung are at the top 🤔
People loving OLED in general has nothing to do with "brightness". It's about contrast and pure blacks. Also the response time of OLED pixel is way better than LCD (VA)
I wonder if part of the problem is that the customers want a thin TV. So the PCBs have funny shaped and maybe less reliable components to keep their profile low and heat sinks are kept to low profiles so are less effective.
I used to work in the domestic white goods repair industry and left due to the fact that people hated when I said to buy an new appliance washing machine etc due to the fact that a repair would not be economical compared to buying a new.
Red hot CPU usually indicates that a power stage has gone bad on the main board and dropped the main power rail voltage into it.
Not fixable at component level unless you're good at CPU reball and replacement.
I abandon LG 2 years ago, after two TVs that didn't lasted more then 2 years. Don't get me wrong LG do fantastic TV and monitor panels, but somehow, their electronics have fallen into the cheap area. Is it their fault or a subsidiary ? Not sure. I bought a Samsung for the first time, and very happy with Qled. Hopefully it will last more then 2 years. I hope LG finds it's mark again. In the LCD, LED era, they were doing good TVs if I recall. I kind of miss the Sharp tvs, in a corner of my mind.
I had a Goldstar before it became LG. TV was programmed to turn itself on, and it did... Catch on fire - never bought that brand ever since, but instead got a Philips that does use LG panels.
LG's a good brand man.👍🏻
I’ve had 2 Oled tv’s now in the last 6 years or so both Sony Bravia’s. I never once had any issue with screen burn in. LG created and owns oled technology and they license it to companies like Sony. I wonder if LG uses some sort of lesser technology that allows screen burn in? My current tv is the A95L 65” I bought it in October of 2023. The main board had an issue and was replaced in July of 2024. No issues since.
They're ALL going to suffer from it eventually if they live long enough as it's inherent to the technology, much as it was with CRT TVs. It all comes down to whether or not a person thinks it's a price worth paying for the vastly superior picture quality when compared to anything else. I personally think it is. LG seems to have nailed it from around 2017 as it's rare to see anyone complaining about it on models from the C7 onwards, most of which are still fine 7 years later unless they've had very heavy usage.
There are always going to be some examples of early failure, but I've never had an LCD (falsely sold as "LED") TV last more than 5 years either without developing some kind of panel-related fault.
It depends on what you watch. OLED burn in is cause by the same pixels being lit too long - so a graphic on a sports program that doesn't change or if you leave a disc on a menu for too long or pause a movie or have a locked off camera feed. But if you just watch generic content where pixels tend to change continuously burn in isn't an issue. While I love OLED, I think mini LED is nearly as good and far less prone to problems.
We have a 55" Toshiba 4K TV that we've had now for about 5 years and still going strong... Was under £400 and our son bought it for us as an anniversary gift ... I'd love one of the newer OLED TVs for better picture quality as the only real fault with ours is in the daytime reflection coming in on the screen means its impossible to see the picture and sometimes you just can't see anything in the shadows on the TV.... Having seen all the issues with the new ones though I think I will just keep my money
My LG OLED 65" failed after about 2yrs but luckily I found a really good independent repair guy not far from me who knew exactly what was wrong and did an upgrade of components to make sure it didn't happen again. He advised on a repair/upgrade rather than a new board as the new board would die like the original one did. TV is still going strong but I need another 18mths of use before I can tell for real. Love the TV though.
Samsung 8000u 50inch bought on black friday deal. Argos £329. The screen failed after 13 months later. They don't make tv like they used to back in the days. Lg oled tv picture quality is 2nd to none. But the screen burns issues and 3x price of normal tv. Make me think twice. Even LG claiming their current LG oled . Less likely to suffer from screen retention problems. Which I highly doubt. Led/Lcd is definitely the better option. Just make sure you get an extended warranty. 2nd time round.
Given there aren't that many people doing TV repair these days but they are selling thousands of TVs, I don't think this is any indication of a high failure rate.
I'd also be curious about the manufacture dates, as it may just be a bad batch from the factory so they all fail around the same time.
Places like Richer Sounds offer 6 year warranties on these TVs. If they had a high failure rate, they would have gone bankrupt by now.
I have a second hand board for this tv. Infect I have many boards for this tv. I have seen loads of these tvs a very bad family of tvs from lg. They also suffered from a weird fault where you would put it into standby by over night and in the morning the standby light would be off and only way to turn it on was to unplug and leave for 5 minutes and plug back in. If you need a board I can put my hands on probably 10 main boards. I'm in the uk
@@jathomas873 yes please. That would be amazing.
The standby is a fault on my LG Oled 65 inch screen. So annoying that I have to unplug it from the mains every night 😡
What is the board number you need@@allenfleckney5969
@mikmatmel416 the standby fault is annoying and I've never been able to solve it. I've got 4 of these tvs and they all do the same yet annoying thing is when thereon they work fine
@@allenfleckney5969I'm back in my warehouse tomorrow so will dig one out if you let me know the board numbers
New board and next to it a (or several) 40x40mm quit fans, that might do the trick.
I have an older LG OLED55 E model, it’s a (close to) topmodel, might have better thermals inside.
I do not have any retention, might be you using it wrong. 😮
The images and indents onscreen were called DOGS (Digital Onscreen Graphics).
We HAVE to have a bright display, as my wife has macular degeneration & her central vision is affected, which is where are the colour-sensitive cones are. Which is why we have an Oled TV...
Trouble is all the components are proprietry. might it be worth grabbing a few donor boards for the more problematic models and soldering new components on as needed. But then its a hell of a higher workflow and the customer may as well just buy a new tv. God this reminds me of the plasma days and exploding screens.
What a shame, as I was considering an OLED if I ever needed to get a new one. Our LG 47" 1080p/240 Hz is fourteen years old and still going strong. I paid $1,700 back then before the prices dropped like a rock, but I'm not really sorry considering quality issues with new ones.
I replaced an LG 3D Led TV with a Sony around five years ago. It was still working but it was pumping out mains noise into my homes mains power supply. When the TV was turned on, it would create an audible hum through my home theatre system that was loud enough to be heard sitting 4m away. Even unplugging the LGs HDMI cable from the AVR wouldn't stop it. It would only stop when the LG was switched off, not really ideal for a home theatre system. Fortunately the Sony is silent when running.
Have you tried swapping the live and neutral around. If it’s a two pin lead going into your tv? Had a similar problem when I lived in Germany. Worth a try. Good luck.
@@brianjames6890 I'm in Australia and the mains active/neutral pins are angled so can only fit into the wall outlet one way. Also, the mains lead on my old LG was internally wired so unless they f'd up at the factory, it was correctly wired to the mains power.
No way.
I have two sonys, a 50 and a 43, cost me £500 each in 2020.
Then a second hand Hisense, costing £100.
I don't need more.
A story like that just horrifies me.
I could also convert one of my 2 1980s CRT sets to accept a hdmi input.
I was almost tempted to get a G4 but now not so sure! Burn-in doesn’t seem to be so much of a problem as it was, but the QD-OLED panels used by Samsung and some Sony seem to look likely to suffer from it more. And the micro-LEDs have bloom and the lesser OLED Sonys seems too black. Not convinced by OLED and it’s perfect blacks as I never see any perfect blacks in reality.
Firstly, night time without lights on isn't perfect black to you?
Secondly, the point of deep blacks is you see detail in dark scenes and it offers more illusion of depth due to the contrast ratio.
@@alexatkin maybe at night in an area without any light pollution but OLEDs show complete black in areas that in reality you don't see complete black, just a dark grey. They pick out detail that you don't see in reality, and show contrast ratios that may exist in reality, but they don't start from complete black upwards. Take all those demo screnes of flying over cities, it never looks like that when you are in a plane looking out at the city you are approaching. Those scuba/snorkling scenes never look as colourful and contrasty when you are doing it in real life. I've had times with my old Trinatron or Plasma when I've been at an event, come home and watched coverage of that event on the TV and it was similar to being there and looking through a pane of glass. Never quite seen that 'reallity' on an OLED, it is always 'enhanced'.
Hi , hope you don’t mind me asking, do you have any experience of TCL tv’s ❓, thanks
I have a sony 65 inch x95 tv and 55 inch CX bought around the same time in 2021 the cx is still ok but not had as much use as the Sony set.
Think I'll avoid OLED and stick to LED. Won't be avoiding Life's Good though. I have several Life's Good LED, as do family and friends, they have all been good TVs for years with no faults. I also like Bony. Anything is better than Kestrel TVs under 10 different brands. I'd never buy those brands.
Every LCD TV I have owned started to go dull and have dirty screen effect within a couple of years. I've had zero problems with OLED so far.
Like everything today, not repairable but throw away. Realy good for the manufacturers and retailers but not for the planet. So much for net zero.
You say "a lot of money to part with", but a friend has just had (according to the engineer) "complete panel failure" on his £750 50" LG NanoCell TV that's only 3 years old. I've talked him into getting a 48" OLED TV as a replacement for £700 that's vastly superior to NanoCell in terms of picture accuracy. He's well aware of potential "burn-in" issues so is prepared to treat it with the same respect he would a CRT TV. That's all I've done with mine and it now has several thousand hours on it with around half of those watching 2.4:1 letterboxed content with no apparent ill-effects. I'm expecting it to become apparent at some stage as it's inherent to OLED, but I consider it a price worth paying as it's the only technology available in my price range that's capable of producing an accurate image.
Ive had 3 lg oleds with no issues whatsoever now have the lg g4 2024 model brilliant tvs in my opinion
I would say fix it, depending on how many hours on the panel, I find picture quality so much better than LCD so saying you can buy a 55 for £300+ whilst true ignores fact quality isn’t there.
They are not so unreliable had my b6v since 2017 and it’s still going strong.
"Not so unreliable" says 1 guy with 1 TV to a repairer fixing 5 in a week! Let me do my maths or should I rely on a 1 man survey (answer is no).
@ And a repair man only sees the broken ones. Need more stats from all sides to draw a reliable conclusion
@@rjmahan Richer Sounds offers a 6 year warrant as standard. No way they would do that if the failure rate was high.
LG are one of the top brands who sell the most TVs, so naturally you will see more of them at repair shops than other brands. Also as anyone buying a cheap TV is going to just throw it away, not attempt a repair.
It looks like an older LG Oled,model C8. I got this TV
Avoid them Allen, you could try instart or what ever it is on the lg service remote, I’ve rescued a few with that 😊
I keep looking at new tv,s butt having seen all the issues I'll stick with my 15 year old Panasonic plasma
You have to remember that that an order of magnitude more people who have problems will complain online, compared to 99% of users who have zero problems. Also a TV repair service is obviously not going to be somewhere that has reliable information on the failure rate. LG are pretty much the top brand so naturally as they sell more TVs than other brands, they are going to be more common at repair shops.
Not excusing the fact they do not offer replacement parts at a fair price or for very long after they bring out a new model though. But that basically applies to all manufacturers these days.
Hey Allen, remember there slogan: LG Life is good ( well not when you open one of these ) lol😂 (:
LG's original name was Lucky Goldstar.
I love the LG brand especially the tvs ' I have 3' but the older ones with the scarlet back , I am just in the process of repairing one here in Spain just the capacitor blown on the inverter , I just repair as an hobby have a 55inch samsung in at the minute must weigh less then half of the LG 37s 'nothing to them, ps love the channel.
You need to watch this video, as you repeat yourself over and over.
Not sure that a blackfriday special (likely Vetsel or similar) LCD set is comparable to a £1500 OLED, yes same size and does the same job, but its like comapring a porsche to ford fiesta
I purchased a 65inch LG tv would never of purchased one if I new they had burn in no mention of it either from lg what's so ever over £2500 it cost plasma burn in was the death thd brand, LG is 7 years old the burn in started just over a year ago great picture but the reds are what got hit quite dark in the middle with netflix youtube letters and underline bars showing faintly. For the price of the TV LG should replace the screen......
Lead free BGA's, get out of the tv game with sanity, buy and repair 80-90 midi keyboards. More rewarding, I did...😁😁
I'll stick with my old 46" Panasonic full hd 3d plasma
I have a Lg la970w-za TV I've had it around 15 years it's the best TV I've ever had.
I wouldn't buy a LG a Vizio would be my choice first or a Samsung maybe a Sony.
Interesting you mention Argos. Some of the Bush TVs are on offer. Are these worth looking at?
No
Bush is a trading name now mostly used by Argos. Bush TV's mostly made in Turkey by Vestel. The same same sets, with cosmetic differences as those badged JVC, Toshiba, Hitachi, Techwood and many many more. All the same manufacturer and based on the same chassis and PSU. All reasonable quality and good reliability. Vestel don't make LCD panels so these have been bought from a Chinese manufacturer for the last 4 or 5 years and very much have been the weak link.........many fail on average 1-3 years and too expensive to replace. A few Bush labelled TV's are completely Chinese in origin. A very good mid level set IMHO.
@@kenrobertson4140
Good info..are you in the tv business?
Another LG Oled that is not worth repairing, sooner or later the penny will drop snd the sales will plummet.
ive just developed a backlight bleed on my 65" lg tv, it seems to be shining through from the bottom- up the screen about 3 inches, stands out more on bright pictures....gutted.
This is extremely common on all large LCD TVs, as the backlight diffuser de-laminates over time. Its not unique to any one brand that I'm aware of. My last Samsung has horrible colour issues (the backlight appears pink and changes tone across the screen) due to the same problem.
People also have a nasty habit of having their TV where sunlight can shine on it, or near radiators, which will destroy it much faster.
I'm still calling it a tcon,the same way I still call the firmware of a device,as BIOS...Oh well,can't teach an old dog new stufff
Get rid of it buy a black friday deal loads around at the moment Sad to see but thats the thing now with TVs they are sadly just not built to last very long
There's a lot in this.
O k I can tell you the brands to stay away from this holiday season.
L.
G
Samsung
Vizio
Vizio limited edition
And hisense
Vizios are all rigged 2. The Chromecast built into the t.v when Google sends a faulty update to a Chromecast, they break the t.v And cause what is called the vizio black screen of death.
Hisense Also has their tv rigged to the operating system
Samsung decided to be the cheap bastard this holiday season By not using a real 4k panel but a Up converting 4K panel to cut costs. But still charge you $600 for a real 4K panel which isn't real.
And let's not even get into l. G as you can see in this video, you're right. They're failing left and right. It's either power supply failure or worse t. V. Failure from bad screens LED drivers, it's a mess.
I hate LG aka Lucky Goldstar. Absolute rubbish
LG sets are actually some of the most reliable that you can buy.........if you buy LCD. The issue is with OLED technology only, really.
Allen, you are far more qualified than me to talk about TV repairs but not too sure I agree with you on burn in etc?
I've had my 65 C9 for over five years and not a single problem. It's primary use is PC and console.
I make sure that compulsory pixel refresh runs every 4000 hours (I think it is) and I have logo luminosity on and I've seen nothing.
It's the best TV I've owned since the late 70s with one brilliant Panasonic Plasma ..
Not sure what OLED model you are repairing here but my mate is a TV specialist and he generally chooses OLED. The failure rates on LED and LCD are far worse..
But it is a lottery. Mass produced means there will always be a percentage of iffy models.
I personally can not go back to anything else after OLED. It's a night and day difference.
LED and LCD technology are effectively the same thing. The term "LCD" refers to the LCD panel or screen, where the image is generated. The term "LED" refers to the method of backlighting the screen..........The screen is the LCD panel! It is not true that they are less reliable than OLED, as most LED sets simply fail when one or more LED's in the backlight fail and need replaced, where most modern OLED TV's suffer from a fatal screen failure in their short life. It is mainly only recently manufactured LCD screens which fail that were produced in China. This includes most of the Samsung LCD's produced in approx the last 4 years..........after Samsung bought over a screen manufacturing plant.......in China!! When all is taken into consideration,the most reliable brand today is LG.........when you buy LCD.
Buy a new one
parts !!!!!
Thanks for this one. Too bad people will keep on buying this kind of crap. 🤮
LG and Samsung it's all rubbish
It wouldn't be me, i try to avoid disposable tech? Lucky Goldstar, thats disposable tech 😂 oleds are trash, please keep us updated on how many of these horrible TVs turn up. In your opinion is this like hisense, built to last approx 3 years?
You are so so wrong in this video. OLED is not about being bright and more vivid colours at all, it’s about accuracy. LED-LCD is way brighter. Image retention, I’ve never heard any that have had problems and we are many OLED owners here for many years. I personally have owned OLED:s for about 8 years abslotuely no problems at all and a fantastic accurate picture.
I have a 6 year old Oled and it does have image burn in. Maybe you are just lucky.
@@SKINFLAPPOr you are just unlucky😂
I learned LG was crap from a split unit 10+ years ago!
My lg 55inch smart tv I bought in 2022 is also dead died two months ago these devices die after 2ish years