I've been installing since 1975 and been working for myself since 1987. I have never owned anything but a star roller. After using the roller you set it down then brush the carpet pile once or twice before moving your weight or the Seamerdown forward. The carpet pile doesn't get 200° and so the only way that the pile can get changed from the heat is if you move slowly, set your iron on 4, and use a piece of railroad iron as a seam weight........ which sadly here's the way many carpet installers work. I also work my seam into the carpet rather than with it because it's easier to be sure that the carpet pile is not down inside the seam when the two sides go together. All you have to do is brush the carpet flat before you move the Seamerdown onto the carpet. Rules are made to be broken and it's all about technique anyway. The only thing you didn't mention is that edge ceiling with hot melt can reduce seam peaking because they are melted together edgewise also. It's too bad that know it all installers don't want to try something new or different.
Seam is cool enough to power stretch after 15 minutes. Keep your iron set just under 3 for most carpets to avoid warping. Sometimes I run a set of boards under the seam to maximize flatness. as I pull my vented seam weight down the line. Works great. The Seamer Down looks like a good tool, not for everyone, not a necessity. Using a smooth wheel roller is good too. I also use a star roller.
Mohawk dsnt require seam sealer on regular carpet only on pattern or comercial or double stick carpet the iron will burn the seam sealer as soon as it goes threw it blending it with the glue the seam sealer works on regular comercial capets because they dont use seaming tape and those carpets are made of fibers that run threw the carpet in a line regular carpet has single fibers thats why when you pull on fibers on comercial they pull like a roll of yarn threw the carpet causing a line thats why they require seam sealer on seams because they are exposed to the edges comming up
Question, I have 20 years experience and have noticed the price per yard to install has not come up very much from the time I started. Most guys are being paid $3-4 per yard in Utah to lay a normal cut pile. $.50 more for a pattern. Is anything being done out there to help our prices come up? Shit layers are becoming an epidemic to our industry and it is only getting worse. Especially with crap wage. Most installers struggle maintaining a nice truck for hell's sake. I worked into the $15 - 25 per yard range with wovens and high end pieces so in my niche I do not have to worry too much. But the struggle is real out there. decent layers are struggling to make ends meet because of crap wage. Is anything being done in training to help these qualified installers make more money? There needs to be a standard set for quality and decent wages.
Close the borders and prices will start going back up. Sad fact. Here around New Orleans hardly no American Installers anymore. This change occurred over a 15 year period.
Even at 4/yd to install, the people made out 100+/hr. Install new carpet, restretch out the padding, a few tack strips, no tearout or furniture moving..... That's more than most trades...... Then there's REAL tile guys like myself, who do installs to specs and to standards who get barked at for a 3,000 shower when we'll spend a week in their house... im in the wrong trade, but damn if these folks in my trade absolutely suck and ruin my trade......
He’s using a long piled carpet on a flat board no even if the backing in the join wasn’t touching slightly you wouldn’t notice it because of the pile have a go at velvet mate love to see you take your join roller to it hahah
I be laying carpet for 13 year and i never use seam sealer and i never use the think you put it on top of the seam and never have a problems de my seams bolieve or not and 13 years never have a problems de my seams and the only think i use is my toll box on top of my seams
Because there's a vacuum, it's easier and more ergonomic to move when it's powered down rather than forcing the seamer to move while it's sucking the floor.
I have one you dont have to turn it off and on youll ruin the seamer down real quick the seamer down pushes real easy threw the carpet..this guy doesnt install much he just gets paid to demostrate in small 4x8 plywood not the same as actually being out there working on a job site
He doesn’t know y it’s white. one is a chemical bond which is the white n melts faster than the other which is mechanical bond the amber color which doesn’t melt as fast. Use for different carpets each type white for a tight backing or soft back the Amber is for carpets with bigger squares on the backing
Great video. Great info. It's by the book standard. Have had many installers eat it and replace carpet simply due to no seam seal and no power stretch. When we come into inspect, repair or clean we work the claim 1st. It ain't right for some dumb shit to come in and slam it together non-standard and customer has to pay us to fix frayed obvious seams and carpet wrinkles. For you cheap azzed installers try a kool glide and kool glide seam sealer. Easy peezy but yeah you gotta spend some money just like you would for a power stretcher.
But as soon as you add heat that hot glue just comes apart and it won't hold the carpet No More until it dries again does not worry you when you go to seam it
some of your info is workable but your seaming techniqes on direction and placing carpet together was a bit sloppy.....I see gapping in the future of that method...I like the seam cooler but I'll stick with a weighed wood tray....and seaming has nothing to do with wrinkling..unless you waded it up while making the seam...you could use your kicker in a better way for positioning as you go down a long seam...but you need to face forward...hammering the carpet twords the other piece is a SLOOPY attempt at a flawless seam..... roll it back and actually observe the backings touching....then tractor it...better chance of not getting a callback...
Half the time? Or a Third of time off? Where does 'half the time' to do a job come from? And why do you have buddies who are installers who buy glue sticks from walmart? Was it a buddy or a friend of a friend? If he was your buddy I would imagine you would have already coached and sold him on the idea of installing properly. Practical question. You show seeming where you have no walls and all the space in the world in comparison to your carpet. When you come to a wall, how do you get the board out? Or do you do half the seam and then make sure it is cooled enough and then pull the carpet back in bulk and finish your seam? In theory in a vacuum the board under the seamer is so easy and apparently useful, but you don't even address the real world application of it. And I thought that was your whole purpose in this seminar. Instead you seam in a void. And don't even mention the issues that would occur. The most important part of the video was how a windmill tractor is needed on a seam, and you start talking about it the moment you become hard to hear. And 'getting used to it'? What are the decibels? I've been using the seem cooler for a few years and only recently I realized how damaging it must be to hearing. Anyone using it should wear hearing protection. I don't know why it isn't required for it to be marked on the tool, but it absolutely is loud enough and is endured long enough to cause permanent damage.
good but this dude talks so much he takes a 5 minute video and turns it into twenty smh - if this guy looking to make any money off video's, he might try a little less gab and a little more action
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Where is the Pad ? SEMEN TAPE ? this is crap and not real on a job site . SEMEN WEIGHT? he is full of it . he is try to sell a 240 dollar seam weight . f that . this is a commercial joke . nice bangs , i bet he never installed a yard of carpet anywhere ..
I've been installing since 1975 and been working for myself since 1987. I have never owned anything but a star roller. After using the roller you set it down then brush the carpet pile once or twice before moving your weight or the Seamerdown forward. The carpet pile doesn't get 200° and so the only way that the pile can get changed from the heat is if you move slowly, set your iron on 4, and use a piece of railroad iron as a seam weight........ which sadly here's the way many carpet installers work.
I also work my seam into the carpet rather than with it because it's easier to be sure that the carpet pile is not down inside the seam when the two sides go together. All you have to do is brush the carpet flat before you move the Seamerdown onto the carpet.
Rules are made to be broken and it's all about technique anyway.
The only thing you didn't mention is that edge ceiling with hot melt can reduce seam peaking because they are melted together edgewise also. It's too bad that know it all installers don't want to try something new or different.
Seam is cool enough to power stretch after 15 minutes. Keep your iron set just under 3 for most carpets to avoid warping.
Sometimes I run a set of boards under the seam to maximize flatness. as I pull my vented seam weight down the line. Works great.
The Seamer Down looks like a good tool, not for everyone, not a necessity.
Using a smooth wheel roller is good too. I also use a star roller.
I've only sealed end seams in berber and that's all never had any problems
The gel on the comb-over should be a good clue that this guys a salesman slicker
most crews don't use seam sealer on plush but do on berbers.... most cut corners and it's a tough ass job....
This video is Great but would've been Amazing IF THE DIFFERENT tools used was actually listed in the comment section!
Really well put together video with a lot of key details on making a great seam. Thanks for sharing!
How do I get trained for this?
The Carpet Guys are awesome and I love that TCG sells Mohawk Air.o floor covering.
Mohawk dsnt require seam sealer on regular carpet only on pattern or comercial or double stick carpet the iron will burn the seam sealer as soon as it goes threw it blending it with the glue the seam sealer works on regular comercial capets because they dont use seaming tape and those carpets are made of fibers that run threw the carpet in a line regular carpet has single fibers thats why when you pull on fibers on comercial they pull like a roll of yarn threw the carpet causing a line thats why they require seam sealer on seams because they are exposed to the edges comming up
you don't know what your talking about
Question, I have 20 years experience and have noticed the price per yard to install has not come up very much from the time I started. Most guys are being paid $3-4 per yard in Utah to lay a normal cut pile. $.50 more for a pattern. Is anything being done out there to help our prices come up? Shit layers are becoming an epidemic to our industry and it is only getting worse. Especially with crap wage. Most installers struggle maintaining a nice truck for hell's sake. I worked into the $15 - 25 per yard range with wovens and high end pieces so in my niche I do not have to worry too much. But the struggle is real out there. decent layers are struggling to make ends meet because of crap wage. Is anything being done in training to help these qualified installers make more money? There needs to be a standard set for quality and decent wages.
Close the borders and prices will start going back up. Sad fact. Here around New Orleans hardly no American Installers anymore. This change occurred over a 15 year period.
the only thing I found was trying to do the job easier and faster
There's not to many mechanics these day I try to make my numbers and I make them deliver.
Even at 4/yd to install, the people made out 100+/hr. Install new carpet, restretch out the padding, a few tack strips, no tearout or furniture moving.....
That's more than most trades......
Then there's REAL tile guys like myself, who do installs to specs and to standards who get barked at for a 3,000 shower when we'll spend a week in their house... im in the wrong trade, but damn if these folks in my trade absolutely suck and ruin my trade......
I've worked with a few of these guys that hold these meetings, they usually suck on the job.
He’s using a long piled carpet on a flat board no even if the backing in the join wasn’t touching slightly you wouldn’t notice it because of the pile have a go at velvet mate love to see you take your join roller to it hahah
Lol. Exactly!
velvets are pain and occasional head joints never look good on them
What work belts are you guys wearing, and is it comfortable for a full day's work?
How did you cut your seam with straight edge or a row finder?
I do like that cooling weight I'm gonna look into that
bet they work good
Only thing I hate about the seamer down is the noise. Not good for the hearing day after day.
I’ve been installing for 40 years. Seamer down is a joke!
@@bobaleman3962 . Ya me too and I have to hip socket to prove it .
I be laying carpet for 13 year and i never use seam sealer and i never use the think you put it on top of the seam and never have a problems de my seams bolieve or not and 13 years never have a problems de my seams and the only think i use is my toll box on top of my seams
The closed captioning at 16:15 is very unfortunate lol
Nice Work
Why do you turn the seamer down off and on? Why not just keep moving it along?
Because there's a vacuum, it's easier and more ergonomic to move when it's powered down rather than forcing the seamer to move while it's sucking the floor.
Kyle Love oh I see. I’ve never used one and just assumed it was a fan/blower thing. Thanks mate
@@richardmoss9188 Yea sir...
I have one you dont have to turn it off and on youll ruin the seamer down real quick the seamer down pushes real easy threw the carpet..this guy doesnt install much he just gets paid to demostrate in small 4x8 plywood not the same as actually being out there working on a job site
He doesn’t know y it’s white. one is a chemical bond which is the white n melts faster than the other which is mechanical bond the amber color which doesn’t melt as fast. Use for different carpets each type white for a tight backing or soft back the Amber is for carpets with bigger squares on the backing
Great video. Great info. It's by the book standard. Have had many installers eat it and replace carpet simply due to no seam seal and no power stretch. When we come into inspect, repair or clean we work the claim 1st. It ain't right for some dumb shit to come in and slam it together non-standard and customer has to pay us to fix frayed obvious seams and carpet wrinkles. For you cheap azzed installers try a kool glide and kool glide seam sealer. Easy peezy but yeah you gotta spend some money just like you would for a power stretcher.
Lmao half way through u decide to blur face
But as soon as you add heat that hot glue just comes apart and it won't hold the carpet No More until it dries again does not worry you when you go to seam it
Who the fuck seam seals plush carpet 😂😂
this guy is sells man not carpet leyer I would like to see him doing twenty to forty feet long he wont be screaming
Curious. Everything he is using ir "traxx" coincidence????
some of your info is workable but your seaming techniqes on direction and placing carpet together was a bit sloppy.....I see gapping in the future of that method...I like the seam cooler but I'll stick with a weighed wood tray....and seaming has nothing to do with wrinkling..unless you waded it up while making the seam...you could use your kicker in a better way for positioning as you go down a long seam...but you need to face forward...hammering the carpet twords the other piece is a SLOOPY attempt at a flawless seam..... roll it back and actually observe the backings touching....then tractor it...better chance of not getting a callback...
There are many ways of making a seam, everybody has their preferred method. Whatever gets the job done right!
Half the time? Or a Third of time off? Where does 'half the time' to do a job come from? And why do you have buddies who are installers who buy glue sticks from walmart? Was it a buddy or a friend of a friend? If he was your buddy I would imagine you would have already coached and sold him on the idea of installing properly.
Practical question. You show seeming where you have no walls and all the space in the world in comparison to your carpet. When you come to a wall, how do you get the board out? Or do you do half the seam and then make sure it is cooled enough and then pull the carpet back in bulk and finish your seam? In theory in a vacuum the board under the seamer is so easy and apparently useful, but you don't even address the real world application of it. And I thought that was your whole purpose in this seminar. Instead you seam in a void. And don't even mention the issues that would occur.
The most important part of the video was how a windmill tractor is needed on a seam, and you start talking about it the moment you become hard to hear. And 'getting used to it'? What are the decibels? I've been using the seem cooler for a few years and only recently I realized how damaging it must be to hearing. Anyone using it should wear hearing protection. I don't know why it isn't required for it to be marked on the tool, but it absolutely is loud enough and is endured long enough to cause permanent damage.
Shhhhh. You ask too many informed questions
You got to be F Ing kidding me....the guy ask to show the seam inspection at the end at you cut that out! Thumbs down!!!!
This is probably excellent info but the audio is un-hear-able
I hate amber Seam tape smoke fucking gives me headaches
good but this dude talks so much he takes a 5 minute video and turns it into twenty smh - if this guy looking to make any money off video's, he might try a little less gab and a little more action
A whole lot of talking....where's the showing? It's a video after all, not a lecture.
Will you be ready when Jesus Christ returns? If not confess your sins and ask Jesus to come to you. Praise the Most High for his son acting as a sacrificial lamb, so that your sins can be forgiven (KJV Romans 5:6-11). Confess your sins to the Most High (KJV1 John 1:9) and Repent (KJV Acts 3:19) now while you have time before it's too late, Many people in this world will not see tomorrow(KJV Proverbs 27:1).
To repent means you will not do any of the sins you've done in the past. You will be a renewed person. What is sin? Sin is a transgression of the laws of the Most High (KJV 1 John 3:4). Learning the Ten Commandments is a good start (KJV Exodus 20:1-17).
I bet this guy cant install that hotel ball room carpet. Those who cant, teach
Damn just show how to do it
You talk too much
Yalks too much
Where is the Pad ? SEMEN TAPE ? this is crap and not real on a job site . SEMEN WEIGHT? he is full of it . he is try to sell a 240 dollar seam weight . f that . this is a commercial joke . nice bangs , i bet he never installed a yard of carpet anywhere ..