I have a few suggestions if you're able; 1. Test these against other budget NVGs like Nightfox and the NVG-30. 2. Test these in an open field and wooded area with no light pollution. 3. Get a second person to record what the NVGs look like under their own NVGs. Bonus points if you find someone willing to let you borrow their anolog NVGs.
I bought a cheap NV set for bat spotting, and they were quite good. With the addition of an inexpensive 3W IR torch they became quite awesome. Their limit was the built in illuminator, and I guess 3 watts of IR at one wavelength puts out a lot of usable photons. As others have said though, the illuminator gives up your 20, but you can position an IR torch to bathe a vista, and look at it from elsewhere : -)
I bought my Nvg10 from Amazon, I still have night sights from the eighties from moonlight, which at the time we’re over 200 pounds and these nvg10 are awesome in comparison, the moon light sights were used in the Falklands conflict. Over 300 metres distance comparison, the NVG is clear as heck whether in black and white mode or green mode. I go out across farmland and woodland and in both environments the clear vision is 20/20, if you know how to set them, the compass can be somewhat slow to configure on the move. 2nd negative view is that the three control buttons are somewhat difficult to find when you can’t physically see them as they are small, very close together and shallow, and braille is easier than these buttons, my only other qualm is that in winter frosty temperatures, when you are exhaling, the cloudiness of your breath can be picked up by the sights and if your not expecting it, you could be mistaken for thinking your seeing ghosts out in the fields, which might be feasible in my case, as the fields were a RAF base during the war. So other than those few points mentioned, I am extremely happy with the NVG10, and the mount might look weird and breathable,but it is metal and quite substantial unless you are ham fist and clumsy. 👍
Looks good, sound OK, I think you may need to check with someone else’s NVGs though that the IR illuminator on these isn’t basically a WHOPPING TORCH to everyone else using night vision, at that point you’re giving yourself away way more than getting an advantage, at least to others with nods
It would be interesting to see how this equipment behaves after at least 3 months of use. I had some and they soon stopped working, even if the battery is fully charged. They did not accept the replacement.
Well Im an 'Aspy' shooter so I greatly respect your opinion my friend! It sounds like I'll be getting some of these to try out for a night fight! We used to use the full 'binocluar' type in the military that covers both eyes and you will learn to 'trust' the NVG. Someone below mentioned the Falklands and down there it was SERIOUS darkness but just star or moonlight gave enough ambient light for them! Our brains are not used to seeing a green or red image so training with them so our brains 'learn' what the eyes send it is a big help. IF anyone in a skirmish is using IR reflective paint on a helmet or weapon you WILL see it easily . These are very good quality for that price looking at your images - Great review Thanks.
@@shikikanaz4624 If you want gen 3 binocular nightvison with white phosporus top of the range tubes in them, then yeah you're going to pay 10K or perhaps even slightly more. But if gen 2+ is acceptable (and for most people it is), then you can get binocular nightvision for 2-3K.
These are not worth getting. I bought them and without IR illumination they are worse the the MK1 eyeball. Using them in a suburban setting is misleading as security systems use IR floodlighting which has a massive effect on the usability. Unfortunately Gen2+ is about the minimum worth spending money on. Using IR in Airsoft against people who has NVGs turns you into a BB magnet. This is from personal direct experience of using NVGs in Airsoft.
I was pleasantly surprised with a set of IR binoculars (digital)& a IR monocular device (digital) I purchased from another online selling platform that I think is a fairly recent provider, so anyway I thought why not &the price being asked wasn't alot by any means, so in the 2weeks they took to arrive i'd convinced myself they would be a crappy set with one of those green lights, boy was I in for a surprise,ok the binoculars casing is abit low quality but for what I payed I can put up with,the monocular however is somewhat better build quality all round,to sum up I'd like to use the expression I heard said growing up in Yorkshire, which is, I'll go & stand at the foot of our stairs.
What I gonna try to do is use this to hog hunt with a ir light with it and use it in my left eye while using my scope in the right or try to see through the red dot inside the lpvo
I gave away a 600$ Digital scope because I wanted it for hunting and when hunting you only have a split second to make the shot! the lag on the optic was so bad that the target was gone after I saw it. Absolutely worthless for hunting.
Had a similar issue, though not for hunting. The FLIR pro camera phone thermal viewer can do the same lag from time to time. Great for electronics tracing including auto.
id check out into building a set of PVS69 there 500-700 if your in the states, theres no latencey, and there just as good (almost) as gen 3, at quarter moon in the woods you can see with no IR, shoot maybe
@@AshShootsAirsoft got it! i think you still can it just cost more! so at that point analog would be better or just a mono set but again depends how much parts cost to get there!
There is a latency, every sensor has a latency, if your latency is minimal, your sensitivity is minimal too. I think i would better have good sensitivity then latency. When you are not able to see anything with no latency, it is useless.
@@GoldenDuck0 yes they are lol, compared to everything else there is out there and no, thats how i know your just talking your ass there FPV drome cams absolutely no lag.
940 nm IR tends to throw a little less light at equal wattage. You.have to bump up your torch wattage. But yes "some" animals see lower 500 nm range IR quite well deer, pigs, raccoons will hide and peek at the camera, coyotes and couger as well I believe.
these are actually "doable". the nightfox digital nvg's arent. nightfox seems to have something that keeps their models from being useable. either the "need" to use IR or some weird lens distortion that makes it impossible to walk.
1st, 2nd and generation refers to improvements in photomagnifing light imaging tubes. Best comonly avail are 3rd gen. white light scope. I'm still running 2nd gen green 2x NV which work fantastic on a rifle behind 50mm scope or even red dot. But I'm looking for something cheap like digital for helmet mount. No magnification for movement in obstical areas.
The biggest downside of these digital nv devices is lack of an app to successfully connect to the wifi. I have tried multiple apps for wireless cams and haven't found one to work. Also, it asks for a password but there is no info about a password in the instructions. They should go with bluetooth instead of wifi and provide an app.
I wonder how this compares to EyeClops Night Vision Infrared Stealth Goggles, their direct ancestor, in a more "sci-fi" looking housing? I'm only half-joking.
Naw, you are going to get smoked by the first dude running even gen 1 analog. You have a IR illuminator strapped to your head and your digital NV is basically useless without it. For the price you might as well get a sightmark Ghost Hunter. At least the sightmark is analog.
From what i can see yes! There are a few different options but this is what stood out to me as a decent one to test. Could try your luck with something else though! 🤷🏻♂️
£240 for that 🤣 just buy a good white light which will give better advantage over that device. Not trying to be elitist I wish there was a cheap alternative but whitelight is the way to go for that pricerange
Have you actually used an NVG10? I have and I am surprised you say this, so forgive me if I am mistaken here, but I think may be not, and you might be in for a surprise if you did. Now, what is that old adage about he who laughs last laughs something or other???
@@CrazyCatLady351 I have used digital night vision in the past, have you used gen 3 analog night vision? I have and I am surprised you say this, so forgive me if I am mistaken here, but I think may be not, and you might be in for a surprise if you did. Now, what is that old adage about he who laughs last laughs something or other???
@@Dan22HD You're missing the point I'm afraid, let me explain a little more clearly if I can: you seem to be mocking the NVG10 in your comment above regarding its effectiveness for such a 'cheap' device, so my point was - have you used and NVG10, so that you are indeed speaking from experience, and not what you simply think/believe/surmise/postulate/conjecture or even fancy to be the case ... that's all? Now do you get where I'm coming from? Not trying to be elitist you understand, simply a case of trying to garner what experience you have with the NVG10, as it makes no never mind about other night vision devices you know or have experience with, as we are not talking about them in this case, and better to save that topic for another video perhaps. 👍
For half the price you can do a DIY PVS-14 with a pretty average tube from a website I can't say the name of lest YT yeet me for advertising. I'd give that a hard pass, thanks boss.
Yes, you probably saw a cheap case. You still need tube, battery, electronic guts. Finding an unblemished phototube at a decent price is an art in itself. Can be done though.
i want some for walking around in the dark when camping or shooting a range toy with a cheapo IR laser. im not planning on jumping into WW3 with these things
What do you guys want to know about this system after 6months of use? Fire over your top questions and ill answer them in my upcoming video!
well how about a battle tested review ?
@@Twoflowersx it will be included in the video :)
Can you make a review of that night vision using it on the ukrainian battlefield ?
I have a few suggestions if you're able;
1. Test these against other budget NVGs like Nightfox and the NVG-30.
2. Test these in an open field and wooded area with no light pollution.
3. Get a second person to record what the NVGs look like under their own NVGs. Bonus points if you find someone willing to let you borrow their anolog NVGs.
@@offender0 great suggestions! Got a few of these in the pipeline so stay tuned!
So far the best budget digital NV device out there. You don’t need IR on as long as there’s ambient light. They are very sensitive
Agreed! They are a decent budget option but id say on the cheaper end gen1 analogue nods are better
what sucks is price has gone up a bit , but still good . Glad got mine while back .
Have you seen the TKKOK M60? If so, how does it stack up against this monocular
Night vision goggles that “only work when there’s light” are not night vision goggles
@@rifleshooterchannel208 all night vision needs some light
I bought a cheap NV set for bat spotting, and they were quite good. With the addition of an inexpensive 3W IR torch they became quite awesome. Their limit was the built in illuminator, and I guess 3 watts of IR at one wavelength puts out a lot of usable photons. As others have said though, the illuminator gives up your 20, but you can position an IR torch to bathe a vista, and look at it from elsewhere : -)
I bought my Nvg10 from Amazon, I still have night sights from the eighties from moonlight, which at the time we’re over 200 pounds and these nvg10 are awesome in comparison, the moon light sights were used in the Falklands conflict. Over 300 metres distance comparison, the NVG is clear as heck whether in black and white mode or green mode. I go out across farmland and woodland and in both environments the clear vision is 20/20, if you know how to set them, the compass can be somewhat slow to configure on the move. 2nd negative view is that the three control buttons are somewhat difficult to find when you can’t physically see them as they are small, very close together and shallow, and braille is easier than these buttons, my only other qualm is that in winter frosty temperatures, when you are exhaling, the cloudiness of your breath can be picked up by the sights and if your not expecting it, you could be mistaken for thinking your seeing ghosts out in the fields, which might be feasible in my case, as the fields were a RAF base during the war.
So other than those few points mentioned, I am extremely happy with the NVG10, and the mount might look weird and breathable,but it is metal and quite substantial unless you are ham fist and clumsy. 👍
Looks good, sound OK, I think you may need to check with someone else’s NVGs though that the IR illuminator on these isn’t basically a WHOPPING TORCH to everyone else using night vision, at that point you’re giving yourself away way more than getting an advantage, at least to others with nods
The Iliminator is 100% a torch under NV. These can run without the Iliminator on though which helps!
It would be interesting to see how this equipment behaves after at least 3 months of use. I had some and they soon stopped working, even if the battery is fully charged. They did not accept the replacement.
Ive got a video in the pipeline on this very subject!
I have used them practically every day for almost a year now, no issues.
They actually look really good special for the price
Cheaper than most of my rift mate 😂😂
Well Im an 'Aspy' shooter so I greatly respect your opinion my friend! It sounds like I'll be getting some of these to try out for a night fight! We used to use the full 'binocluar' type in the military that covers both eyes and you will learn to 'trust' the NVG. Someone below mentioned the Falklands and down there it was SERIOUS darkness but just star or moonlight gave enough ambient light for them! Our brains are not used to seeing a green or red image so training with them so our brains 'learn' what the eyes send it is a big help. IF anyone in a skirmish is using IR reflective paint on a helmet or weapon you WILL see it easily . These are very good quality for that price looking at your images - Great review Thanks.
Playing an Airsoft game with those IR lights with enemies who actually have proper NVG gonna be like putting a big ol target on yourself haha
For sure, these digital devicrs are super dependent on the IR illuminator. They dont really compare to real nods
Cant imagine too many people with like 10k setups running around lol. Then again im not too knowledgeable on this stuff
@@shikikanaz4624 you'd be surprised!
@@shikikanaz4624 If you want gen 3 binocular nightvison with white phosporus top of the range tubes in them, then yeah you're going to pay 10K or perhaps even slightly more. But if gen 2+ is acceptable (and for most people it is), then you can get binocular nightvision for 2-3K.
you need to test nods in open fields, not in a 20m garden otherwise you won't be able to tell their limitations
If i had an open field then i would 😂 this was just a first quick test and initial thoughts
@@AshShootsAirsoft nice, try on a field and it would be interesting to know how much you can see and identify let's say at 50 and 100 m distance
These are not worth getting. I bought them and without IR illumination they are worse the the MK1 eyeball. Using them in a suburban setting is misleading as security systems use IR floodlighting which has a massive effect on the usability. Unfortunately Gen2+ is about the minimum worth spending money on. Using IR in Airsoft against people who has NVGs turns you into a BB magnet. This is from personal direct experience of using NVGs in Airsoft.
I was pleasantly surprised with a set of IR binoculars (digital)& a IR monocular device (digital) I purchased from another online selling platform that I think is a fairly recent provider, so anyway I thought why not &the price being asked wasn't alot by any means, so in the 2weeks they took to arrive i'd convinced myself they would be a crappy set with one of those green lights, boy was I in for a surprise,ok the binoculars casing is abit low quality but for what I payed I can put up with,the monocular however is somewhat better build quality all round,to sum up I'd like to use the expression I heard said growing up in Yorkshire, which is, I'll go & stand at the foot of our stairs.
IR or NV ?
@@dananorth895 they are reasonable in twilight but for fairly cheap IR they are as clear as owt
What I gonna try to do is use this to hog hunt with a ir light with it and use it in my left eye while using my scope in the right or try to see through the red dot inside the lpvo
I gave away a 600$ Digital scope because I wanted it for hunting and when hunting you only have a split second to make the shot! the lag on the optic was so bad that the target was gone after I saw it. Absolutely worthless for hunting.
Had a similar issue, though not for hunting. The FLIR pro camera phone thermal viewer can do the same lag from time to time.
Great for electronics tracing including auto.
Thank you For the review!! That NV looks great!!!
Thanks 🤙🏻 yeah for the price they are ok! Theres a full in depth review coming soon
I wonder if there is a way to take the guts out and reconfigure anything into a dummy pvs 31, just to be able to run dual
id check out into building a set of PVS69 there 500-700 if your in the states, theres no latencey, and there just as good (almost) as gen 3, at quarter moon in the woods you can see with no IR, shoot maybe
A good shout! Im sadly in the UK rather than the states though!
@@AshShootsAirsoft got it! i think you still can it just cost more! so at that point analog would be better or just a mono set but again depends how much parts cost to get there!
There is a latency, every sensor has a latency, if your latency is minimal, your sensitivity is minimal too. I think i would better have good sensitivity then latency. When you are not able to see anything with no latency, it is useless.
Not even remotely close to gen 3, and they are still limited by the framerate
@@GoldenDuck0 yes they are lol, compared to everything else there is out there and no, thats how i know your just talking your ass there FPV drome cams absolutely no lag.
would it illuminate more and better with a stand alone IR illuminator ? Nice video and content thank you
Thanks man! 🤙🏻
Yeah for sure an alternative IR iliminator would help but remember it will look like a big torch to anyone else using nods
940 nm IR tends to throw a little less light at equal wattage. You.have to bump up your torch wattage.
But yes "some" animals see lower 500 nm range IR quite well deer, pigs, raccoons will hide and peek at the camera, coyotes and couger as well I believe.
Honestly, I am totally impressed. You got through most of that video speaking the Queens English, without having a clue. You rock. Or are a rock
Im autistic af so not sure if this is sarcasm 😂
@@AshShootsAirsoft You have me totally off base. The training faulters. I am certain that you know. Argue that.
@@TheOnlyHatchet101 i have zero clue what you are saying man 😂
@@AshShootsAirsoft 😆 not sure what it is about your channel, lot's of weirdos and A-holes in the comment section. Your doing great work, keep it up.
@@orilion1820 haha I know! I really seem to attract them 😂 thank you man appreciate the kind words 🤙🏻
aliexpress is basically just cutting out amazon as the middle man
these are actually "doable". the nightfox digital nvg's arent. nightfox seems to have something that keeps their models from being useable. either the "need" to use IR or some weird lens distortion that makes it impossible to walk.
Not tried the nightfox ones tbh
Does this hold true for nightfoxes new monocular? Also, have you seen the TKKOK M60s? How do those stack up?
@@ZaneMarvel no experience with those units so cant comment!
@@AshShootsAirsoft Aw darn, thank you for the response!
You’ve got to test the nvg30s
the goggles dont suck but you do.
So I assume that is 2nd gen night vision? Not a bad price and it seems fairly clear.
Its not 2nd gen, its digital
1st, 2nd and generation refers to improvements in photomagnifing light imaging tubes. Best comonly avail are 3rd gen. white light scope.
I'm still running 2nd gen green 2x NV which work fantastic on a rifle behind 50mm scope or even red dot. But I'm looking for something cheap like digital for helmet mount. No magnification for movement in obstical areas.
The biggest downside of these digital nv devices is lack of an app to successfully connect to the wifi. I have tried multiple apps for wireless cams and haven't found one to work. Also, it asks for a password but there is no info about a password in the instructions. They should go with bluetooth instead of wifi and provide an app.
Tell me about it! Same here, bit disappointing on that front
Imagine being a combatant watching your phone at night and 15 pairs of IR Goggles show up on your connectivity list. 😂
@@ViolentKisses87 imagine 😂😂
What about zoom on 1x is it present or real 1x like analog nods?
Its cropped in so not true 1x
I've designed a custom mount that let you use this unit on wilcox helmet mount, much bettet than original!
That's sick man fair play 🤙🏻
What is the best night vision? Please help!
You look pretty cool walking around your yard playing army
Thanks man 🤙🏻😂
Did you ever try with an ir laser ?
Its an IR camera essentially so yes works with IR laser
They work with a green laser or flashlight as well.
@@dananorth895 theres no point running a visible spectrum Laser or ilumintor with Nods. Just run IR!
Have you had a chance to run this MONONVG in a game yet?
Not yet!
I wonder how this compares to EyeClops Night Vision Infrared Stealth Goggles, their direct ancestor, in a more "sci-fi" looking housing?
I'm only half-joking.
No idea im afraid!
Is the ir laser visible to the naked eye ?
@@nldsniper laser? No, the IR illuminatior is visible if you are very close and only if you are looking direct into the iluminator
Does it look like you're looking through binoculars or is it true 1:1?
There is a slight zoom
@@AshShootsAirsoft Is it disorienting when using it?
@@complexgaming971 it takes some getting used to! Theres also slight latency
I have 2x on mine, I use it on the rifle instead. Never got use to helmet mount NV with zoom. No thanks.
It have a delay? Or You don't notice that?
I talk about that in the video
Link in bio?
Naw, you are going to get smoked by the first dude running even gen 1 analog. You have a IR illuminator strapped to your head and your digital NV is basically useless without it. For the price you might as well get a sightmark Ghost Hunter. At least the sightmark is analog.
The ghost hunter doesnt seem to be available in the UK.
Prices have gone up, and they usually appear to be sold out.
Nice video. But aliexpress site says it can’t ship to my address. Did you buy these in the UK?
Brought these on Ali, link in description,if thats not working just search "NVG 10" make sure you buy the version with the mount included though!
is sold out right now.there are sellers tat actually give u the head strap too for better price
@@discountmorty213 i think thats the goggles and headstrap instead of the mounting arm
Hi, how can I contact you?
That cost you 300 "quid"? It looks really cheap plastic.
@@PhilipMarcYT 300 is stupidly cheap for NVGs 😂
This is the Best option in Ali Express?
From what i can see yes! There are a few different options but this is what stood out to me as a decent one to test. Could try your luck with something else though! 🤷🏻♂️
Are the dogs ok ?
Just on a mad one mate 😂 theres alot of cats in the neighborhood so i think that triggers them
what's the point if you cant record what you see ?
so you can see at all lmao
Nice video mate
Much appreciated! 🤙🏻
Is it 1x?
Not true 1x, its slightly zoomed in
I bought something off Ali express that doesn’t suck
It was a hoover
lmao
Price
around £250
£240 for that 🤣 just buy a good white light which will give better advantage over that device. Not trying to be elitist I wish there was a cheap alternative but whitelight is the way to go for that pricerange
They absolutely work tho, and dont giveaway your position like a white light does :)
Have you actually used an NVG10? I have and I am surprised you say this, so forgive me if I am mistaken here, but I think may be not, and you might be in for a surprise if you did. Now, what is that old adage about he who laughs last laughs something or other???
@@CrazyCatLady351 I have used digital night vision in the past, have you used gen 3 analog night vision? I have and I am surprised you say this, so forgive me if I am mistaken here, but I think may be not, and you might be in for a surprise if you did. Now, what is that old adage about he who laughs last laughs something or other???
@@Dan22HD You're missing the point I'm afraid, let me explain a little more clearly if I can: you seem to be mocking the NVG10 in your comment above regarding its effectiveness for such a 'cheap' device, so my point was - have you used and NVG10, so that you are indeed speaking from experience, and not what you simply think/believe/surmise/postulate/conjecture or even fancy to be the case ... that's all?
Now do you get where I'm coming from? Not trying to be elitist you understand, simply a case of trying to garner what experience you have with the NVG10, as it makes no never mind about other night vision devices you know or have experience with, as we are not talking about them in this case, and better to save that topic for another video perhaps. 👍
@crazylady thats an awful lot of talking sideways, backwards and around the bush while providing absolutely no info whatsoever.😜
Umm ..they look fine if you slant your eyes in one direction. Congratulations! You win a prize.
For half the price you can do a DIY PVS-14 with a pretty average tube from a website I can't say the name of lest YT yeet me for advertising. I'd give that a hard pass, thanks boss.
Bullocks. Cheapest PVS14 is a $400 without battery or mount - and that’s second market trash…
Yes, you probably saw a cheap case. You still need tube, battery, electronic guts. Finding an unblemished phototube at a decent price is an art in itself. Can be done though.
Digital night vision like is a toy/waste of money and has no place in real world scenarios… YOU WILL DIE 😂
absolutely, if your life depends on it dont buy digital lmao
i want some for walking around in the dark when camping or shooting a range toy with a cheapo IR laser. im not planning on jumping into WW3 with these things
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@@xxalxer5994 ??
test with my 48° lens mod : th-cam.com/video/FTn3m3q1BjU/w-d-xo.html
So….so…..so……so…….so……
Great comment 😂🤙🏻