The Making of Sonic Adventure | Jordan H.J.
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- The Making of Sonic Adventure is a retro gaming history documentary about the game development of Sonic Adventure by Jordan H J.
In the early nineties, SEGA was at their peak, they taking on Nintendo and had a goal of global dominance. By 1997, their plans had failed, and they was sliding into irrelevance. They had one last roll of the dice, the Sega Dreamcast. And for it to succeed, they had to bring their mascot back in proper fashion, and give the console a game which could change their fortunes, in this important moment in gaming history and game development. I'm Jordan H J and I make videos about gaming history.
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Sonic Adventure Production Presentation Tokyo International Forum • Video
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Sonic Jam Longplay
Mario 64 Longplay - RickyC World of Longplays
Tomb Raider Longplay - • PSX Longplay [072] Tom...
Crash Bandicoot Longplay - Ricky C World of Longplays
Sonic Adventure DX Gamecub - • Longplay of Sonic Adve... Longplay Archive
Sonic Adventure DX PC RickyC World of Longplays
Sonic Adventure DX Xbox 360 - FCPlaythroughs • Sonic Adventure DX (HD...
Sega Saturn Magazine
CVG UK Edition 215
DC-UK Edition 01
Dreamcast Magazine Edition 01
Official Dreamcast Magazine Edition 01
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Man I was there in 1999 anticipating this game and I grew up with the genesis trilogy- IT WAS NICE FOR IT'S TIME
It's still fun today
I grew up playing and loving the trilogy through the Mega Collection for GameCube but I at least have a Genesis mini now with them all loaded up and I've got to say... Nothing like playing them on original hardware with a real controller, I get that sentiment way more now! But I digress anyway but I got a Dreamcast, this game and a few others for Christmas of 01 and man was I so friggin' stoked!! It aged poorly but hell yeah I couldn't of said it better myself, man! Same with SA2. Loved my SA2Battle tho!!
I was in Nigeria so I couldnt get the game and console when it came out, so id browse on the internet checking a site called Sonic Foundation of all the info and artwork of Sonic ( at the time internet was brand new, lol)
It’s still the best 3D Sonic.
@@ozmond It really is.
This game has in my opinion the most interesting dev story of all sonic games, and this video is a beatiful proof of that. Great job man, you sir are criminally underrated
Thank you! You can always hit the join button and become a channel member if you want to help support this kind of content :) I've also got a discord, and feel free to share the video about! If you watch any others and comment with your thoughts, I'll make sure to reply to each one.
@@JordanHJ hmm I am not old enough to support others with money and I definetely don't have any particular friend to share this with, but I'm definetely interested to see what other videos you have in store.
@@undergalaxy775 No problem, any view or comment is still a big help! Thanks for watching dude.
This and Sonic 2 are so interesting
I've never thought about it but that game intro is incredibly impressive for it's time
It really is
Sonic Adventure is one of my favourite Sonic games. It did what it set out to do and succeeded. I wouldn't say it's 3D Sonic at its best as I found Sonic Adventure 2 to be a lot more polished and refined but Adventure 1 is still a fantastic game. It hasn't aged entirely well but then again, most 3D games from the Late 90s haven't. Aside from Sonic Adventure, there are several I still go back to and have a blast like Super Mario 64, Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon (heavily underrated by the way) and Crash Bandicoot Warped but that's about it from what I can remember.
It is a great game for sure
Games do not age. Only graphics of games age and of course, people age. You've aged and now you're more exigent
tbh, i much, MUCH prefer SA1. SA2 felt like a scam. 6 characters, mirror of each other making them no better than just a skin. and doing the same level in different order.
Some level also felt much less open than SA1. Wich was a staple of Sonic game (even in 2D) the freedom of choice into how you want to progress through the level. The story was also bad.
I think SA1 aged much better than SA2, because when i played SA 2 i was older but strongly disliked it. So i made some of my friend try SA1 to be sure it wasn't nostalgie and accute chaos cuteness syndrome. And yea: they all prefered SA1 due to how more varried it was, the hub, and the fact that they kept discovering new way to complete a level they though they new.
I don't remmember ANY advantage SA2 had over the 1st.
@Ereder
"SA2 felt like a scam."
Something tells me this comment is gonna be nothing but whining.
"6 characters, mirror of each other making them no better than just a skin. and doing the same level in different order."
The only similarity the levels have is the aesthetics, the design is different for every level to provide a fresh playthrough every time with a sense of familiarity. Hilarious of you to say this, when the characters in the first game all share the same levels, and in the case of Tails usually boil down to lazy rehashing.
SA2 has a theme of rivalry throughout the narrative, making your complaint about some characters mirroring each other extremely petty. Are you upset because it's a more streamlined game? Because honestly streamlining things was the right direction to go considering how unfocused and underdeveloped SA1's gameplay was. But I'm getting ahead of myself.
"Some level also felt much less open than SA1. Wich was a staple of Sonic game (even in 2D) the freedom of choice into how you want to progress through the level."
Lol, this is critically false. Sonic games generally have pathways from time to time, but all it got you was some extra rings and lives, and often said pathways varied in quality. The gameplay was still mostly linear. More importantly, SA1's gameplay is so easy that there's no compelling reason to explore, especially when you have a camera that proves to be a headache when doing something as simple as this. All the extra hidden stuff provides is an AHA! moment. You find them, and then you're done with them in a few seconds. If the game had something to encourage exploration, like maybe emblems for achieving 100%, then I can see the level design being utilised to its full potential. As it is though, they're fun to play but not exactly satisfying like collecting time relics in Crash Bandicoot 3.
SA2's level design focuses more on tight obstacle challenges, which is for the best. 3D games are more time consuming to make than 2D games, and platforming games at heart are rhythm games. I've recently been playing Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3, and the game's challenge factor of pressing a rhythm of buttons in quick succession to do sick tricks and combos reminds me heavily of SA2, a game about following a rhythm of buttons and doing them in quick succession in order to succeed and get A Ranks. Considering Sega games generally go for an arcade like structure of learning the ins and outs of the mechanics and getting better as a result, SA2 as such is successful in this area whereas SA1 kind of fails. It's an action-platformer, not an action-adventure.
"The story was also bad."
Ruby of Blue made a video that proves how wrong you are, so even if you actually bothered to elaborate on this it would be a waste of time.
"I think SA1 aged much better than SA2, because when i played SA 2 i was older but strongly disliked it. So i made some of my friend try SA1 to be sure it wasn't nostalgie and accute chaos cuteness syndrome. And yea: they all prefered SA1 due to how more varried it was, the hub, and the fact that they kept discovering new way to complete a level they though they new. I don't remmember ANY advantage SA2 had over the 1st."
This doesn't prove anything, and I wouldn't be surprised if you just made this up just to validate your opinion that SA1 has aged better, when fundamentally it hasn't. SA1 has worse collision, pace breaking design like the hubs and pointless fishing, underdeveloped gimmicks, and an often poor framerate. All areas SA2 is an objective improvement on, in addition to better textures, more refined character models, achieving 60 fps at all times, and overall doing a better job pushing the player into the game's systems.
Yep, there was quite a bit of whining. Lol.
Computer programs don't age. If you don't like a game anymore, it's entirely on you.
Thank you, I love this game with all my heart despite only playing the PC DX version. I already looked highly of this game for various reasons but learning more about its creating process and the passion the developers had made it even more special to me. Thank you for taking the time to create such a detailed video.
You're very welcome :)
And the PC DX version if you mean the steam version, is the worst port. You really have to play it on PC with mods to play the definitive version because of how poorly ported it was.
Truly an awesome video!
It started a little slow, I was wondering if it was worth watching in the first couple minutes. But like Sonic Adventure, sitting through the old CG Cutscenes was totally worth it. The pace picked up and there was so much well-researched content in here! I also appreciate the classic footage.
10/10 months, keep up the great work.
Thank you :)
Thank you for including the full opening intro!
No problem!
Ill never forget the nastolgic SA intro. Ahhhhhh memories also...
GET A LOAD OF THIS!!
I still have my Dreamcast and all the games I bought back in 2000 including both Sonic Adventures. I heard it was on PS3, so I turned it on and bought Sega Bass Fishing and Sonic Adventure on the PSN store last week. It was $3.99. Now, ironically I see this video on my recommended. This game was so revolutionary when it came out. It really is one of those sayings that is overused, but not here. And that is you had to be there to understand. Sonic Adventure is great memories. I still enjoy it.
This was Sonic's answer to Super Mario 64 and I say it delivered well. I love 3D Sonic, especially Sonic Unleashed and Generation. I grew up with the GameCube so SA series was my introduction to Sonic 🔥
Could you make one for SA2? This was a phenomenal video, very touching.
Thank you - definetly consider it!
Thanks for the vid! There was a lot of interesting behind-the-scenes/promo footage I've never seen before, was cool to see all of that. SA1 is one of my most favorite games and I do love it a lot, however I wish we could've gotten the original vision as seen in some of those early classic-styled screenshots. I loved the way the environments and characters looked in those images.
Thank you! Yeah, it's always interesting to wonder about alternate versions
My favourite Sonic game, excellent video! =)
Cheers mate :)
Very good rundown of the games history. Thank you for taking the time to create this video.
You're very welcome, I hope you enjoyed it!
@@JordanHJ I sure did :) Just keep at it. I'm sure people will stay once they discover you :)
Thank you, I hope you stick around! And if you decide to share it anywhere, always appreciated!
Came here from r/documentaries - wonderfully done man! Your level of research and use of archival footage was great. My feedback would be that the 2 minute intro is a bit long and I found myself skipping ahead. Overall great work, this game was so ahead of its time and I have fond memories of playing it on my Dreamcast.
Yes a couple of people have mentioned the intro, you live and learn! Glad you enjoyed the video man, thanks so much for the feedback.
Speed Highway blew me away the way you ran down the ramp
Love this! You deserve more recognition :)
Thank you :) Means a lot!
Great video, thanks!
WHAT A PLEASURE TO SEE THIS GAME AGAIN
YOU ARE WELCOME
really good vid, very informative
Thank you!
when i saw Yuji Naka's appearance at SA's presentation all i could think was the Powerline concert in A Goofy Movie lol
Subbed and belled! Keep it up dude, this is great!
Thank you! Just so you know, I'll probably make one making of a month as these take a long time to make, and do other stuff in between like the I Just Played I recently made - hopefully that sounds good to you!
Sonic Adventure was a great game, a cultural phenomenon, and totally lived up the hype, it really can’t be understated, great video
Cheers!
Agreed
Agreed again!
Great video game history lesson!
Thank you!
Good video you earned a sub!
Thank you!
I WANNA BE IN THAT ERA!!!!!
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Great video!
Belter that mate. Very well researched.
Thanks mate!
I liked this a lot. I have seen almost none of this irl dev footage from Japan.
Glad you enjoyed :)
Another Jordan Hand Job video thank you 🙏
I'm here from r/dreamcast and I'm glad to be here.
Thank you for coming :)
Hey mate just wanted to say thanks for producing this video I really enjoyed it do you have any more content in the pipeline?
Got a couple coming!
@@JordanHJ fantastic, thanks for letting us know!
You're welcome, not had a huge amount of views but I enjoy making them
great vid! Sonic Adventure Dreamcast version is my favorite Sonic game ever even though i started out on tha Original Sonic, Sonic Adventure was basically tha game i always want to return back to! i don't understand tha hate for it i really don't and i knew those audio issues wasn't just me for tha other ports of it! at least it came out swinging
Thank you!
i knew i subbed to this channel for a reason
You're welcome, I hope you enjoy it! If you have any requests for future videos, let me know.
I have to admit I never liked the game even when it came out but the story behind it is interesting. Nice job!
Cheers :)
Great vid
Thank you :)
Where'd you find the 'Sonic Team Story' video?
Should be in the description
Saw this in r/sonicthehedgehog.
Nice :)
Wow ive always wanted to know how this was made
This was a good video, the only issue I have with it was the subtitles during the Japanese section, you could have added a black outline for the text so it didn't blend in with the video but otherwise this is a great restrospective
Fair enough!
Would love to see a video on Sonic Adventure 2
Every post Dreamcast version sadly doesn't have the game defining, super atmospheric lighting or correct transparency graphics. Then there's the fur textures replaced with weird, shiny rubber like textures. Surprised you didn't mention the outer purple/blue bars in 2010/11 HD port as it didn't run in widescreen. Otherwise really great video on the game!
it really sucks that naka had to leave in 2006, i feel like it was why future games started becoming more of the same in gameplay
Yeah
Yo this the best game I ever played my childhood was amazing cause if this one game
It's great!
I want to ask the Sonic fans if they think Dreamcast Sonic is a separate Sonic,in my opinion I think he is,yes that would make the lore even more messy but Dreamcast Sonic has is own look and personality,so him being Modern Sonic (the reason why I say Modern Sonic pacifically is because Dreamcast Sonic was meat to be a modern design of Sonic) wouldn’t really make sense to me,unless you can change my mind.
He does, it was a transition period for the character
11:15 big’s original design reminds me of totoro
Yeah, I see that
I still think this is the best sonic game ever made
Many agree!
The video proper starts at 2:05 .
I can kind of understand why you would want to include the full intro of the game, but is it really necessary?
I have taken this feedback on board, it's been mentioned a few times haha. My original thinking was that because it's such a long video I wanted a bit more of an intro than normal, but I perhaps went a bit overboard
Guhhh, OPEN YOUR HEART floatisland!
Haha :P
I would agree that, yes, maybe the entire SA intro was a wee bit much...
But it was nice to see it in all its glory. I am not mad at you for using it uncut, especially since such a wonderfully rich documentary of it followed. Great job, from someone who has watched way too many videos about this game
I remeber playing as classic sonic on e3
4:48 Arc Sys made a fucking sonic game? Wow.
10:00 that video is awesome
were games back in the 2000s developed solely on PCs as well? like did they have PC builds they could test the games on or was it purely ran on the console?
Interesting, Yuji Naka is making an action game for SqEnix
That was very interesting.
Yeah, it was all PCs basically. They have development versions of the console, and very early on they would have had PCs with very similar specs to the console
♥
:)
My favorite 3D Sonic game, and one of my favorite games of all time. I prefer it over SA2.
I think a lot do
👏🏻
Thank you!
The way sega fucked up after the Genesis is still amazing
It's a bit sad
9:31 Scienc defies , Sonic the hedgehog . ( Scientifically acurate oic the Hedghog)
Can you find the making of sonic adventure 2?
Remember when they were making Sonic Love Story?
Hehe
Donkey Kong Country Returns?
It's on the list :)
Sonic Adventure Making
That's it!
Crash bandicoot is my favorite
Nice
I’ll come back later.
22:05
And did you?
the reason the lighting was different was not because of the attempt to target 60 frames (the 60fps was a natural result of the Gamecube being more powerful then the Dreamcast), it was because the original lighting engine was built into the Dreamcast and they had to make a new one for the Gamecube version, that's why so many dreamcast games were so dark looking. And the glitch factor people talk about in the that version is actually not true at all, what really happened was that different glitches were created because the SA1 engine was overall unstable due to the main game being a rush job.
Actually it's just Dr. Eggman
In sonic adventure it was Dr Robotnic aswell
26:34 the graphics have not been fixed at all, infact they are way worse than they ever were
You reckon?
@@JordanHJ The main problems with them being ports of the GameCube one, is graphics and glitches. The GameCube version introduced noticably worse graphics, lighting, level models and added a bunch of gltiches to the game. Of course some of these changes were required to run well on the GameCube though. They got lazy, so every new port used the GameCube version, and somehow was worse every time they ported it. The PC version is the current worst version, but is fixable by using mods to make it loo more like the original Dreamcast experience.
Fair enough!
sonic cheam cheam ... *cheam*
Huh
This video doesnt have enough views
Thank you for your view!
Love this game. Sub from me!
Thank you!
Of course! Gonna do a video on the SA series myself one day. But for now am doing megadrive/Genesis.
Check my stuff out. I’d love to collaborate
Sure, I'll check you out when I get home :)
I love Sonic adventure 1 I beat it for the first time since I was a kid recently and it was a lot of fun. I didn’t have a lot of issues with jank but I’m used to playing a lot of old 3D games so maybe I’m biased.
I got a ad for fortnite..........>_< Why
In 6:51
I said 'smashing it out of the park' no swear word
@@JordanHJ so that means you never said any swear word in all of your videos right ?
Not in this one, I might have said one in another one, can't remember!
@@JordanHJ but you're not saying swear words anymore right
No I don't usually swear
How could you 18:44
Oops!
A lot of the 32bit era information is....ehhhhhhh :/
I didn't want to go into too much detail on Sonic X treme and that side of things because the video was about Adventure, so I did mention there are plenty of videos that go into it in proper depth and I was giving a brief overview really
Intro and opening are so sluggish dude seriously?
You are correct, I have since resolved that feedback (this video is a few years old)
First
Certainly are!
Throws blue shell at you
Uh oh
Did you have to say a swear word in this video
Where was the swear word?
@@JordanHJ you mean, you never said a swear word in this video
@@JordanHJ maybe you should check the entire video
I don't remember, do you have a timestamp?
@@JordanHJ in 6:51
look im sorry but i cant like the video
it has 669 likes i cant do that
Haha
i have never liked the game. i think its borring and the colors hurt my eyes. i had it on gamegear, still have it, played maybe few times in my life.
Fair enough!
Game Gear?
Are you sure you played Adventure?
@@thawkade what adventure ? i have played sonic, few games. never liked them. but in some wierd way i feel nostalgic by looking at it :)
@@Najstefaniji Ah I get it, they're not for everybody!
Its not for game gear if your talking about the other games on the game gear then they are the worst ones
The making of a meh game.
:O