The Weird World of Sonic Heroes’ Development

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  • Hey guys! Hope you all enjoyed the concept art and development of Sonic Heroes. It had such a strange and interesting set of concept art and development cycle! Heroes is a blast to play and seeing the what could have beens is insane to me! Anyways thanks for hopping into the weird world of Sonic Heroes concept art and development :D
    Thanks for watching and if you have any suggestions or thoughts about the video let me know in the comments!
    Want to give a HUGE shoutout to Codelack for making this GORGEOUS thumbnail! She is an incredibly talented artist and make sure to go show her some support and check her art out! Thank you so much Codelack :DD ( / codelack.art )
    Check the new discord out: / discord
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    Sources:
    Sonic Heroes Concept Art - sonicfandom.com
    (sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_H...)
    Sonic Heroes Development - sonicretro.org
    (info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Hero...)
    Sonic Heroes Interview May 2003 - sonichq.net
    (sonichq.net/article/news/soni...)
    Sonic and Renderware- ign.com
    (www.ign.com/articles/2003/05/...)
    Sonic Heroes Xbox Interview - xbox.com
    (web.archive.org/web/200710281...)
    Where Sonic Went Wrong - gameinformer.com
    (www.gameinformer.com/b/featur...)
    Iizuka Interview - sost.emulationzone.org
    (sost.emulationzone.org/sonic_h...)
    Sonic Heroes Development Intro Movie - Saestrol
    ( • Sonic Heroes - Intro M... )
    Sonic Twitter Early Concept Art - twitter.com
    ( / 1328776200936833024 )
    Shiro Maekawa discussing cut playable teams - twitter.com
    ( SonicJPNews/statu...)
    Takashi Iizuka EGM Interview - sonicretro.org
    (info.sonicretro.org/Takashi_Ii...)
    Detective Sonic by u/SpammingKills - reddit.com
    ( / detective_sonic )
    Assembler Games Archive - assemblergames.org/
    (assemblergames.org/)
    Obscure Gamers
    (www.obscuregamers.com/)
    Introduction - 0:00
    Sonic Heroes Development Groundwork - 1:04
    Storyboard Concepts - 4:00
    Prototype Mechanics and Box Art Designs- 9:35
    Stage Concept Art - 11:45
    Prototype Renders - 22:01
    Miscellaneous Prototype Images - 22:40
    Profile Picture/Outro done by Jonni Salazar, check him and his gorgeous art out on IG: / jonni_salazar
    Outro Music: Heroes Ring Race (From Sonic Heroes)
    #SonicTheHedgehog #Sonic #SonicHeroes #SonicAdventure2 #Sonic30th #SA1 #SonicAdventureDX #SonicAdventure #SA2 #SonicColors #SonicOrigins #SonicColorsUltimate
    Profile Picture done by Novika ( / imarusama )
    Outro/Sub Button done by Jonni Salazar, check out his gorgeous work on IG: ( / jonni_salazar )
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  • @natty6856
    @natty6856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +682

    i once said "sonic herpes" as a kid and thought i was the king of comedy

    • @RyanSonic
      @RyanSonic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +106

      And as you grew older, you became more aware of the comedic genius that statement was filled with. 😌

    • @Eichro
      @Eichro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      you were ahead of your time

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      they hated him because he spoke the truth. a prophet before his time.

    • @fintendo_nan68
      @fintendo_nan68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      i once called myself "sonic but as a human" when i was a kid and thought that woman would fall into my feet

    • @somemadnessfan4763
      @somemadnessfan4763 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      you are tho

  • @apathy2454
    @apathy2454 2 ปีที่แล้ว +294

    Sonic heroes is by far one of the most creative sonic games

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Oh for sure! The levels in this are gorgeous and scream creativity. Thanks for watching!!

    • @inaminute1826
      @inaminute1826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes definitely inspired me as an creative artist 🥺

    • @Euro.Patriot
      @Euro.Patriot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Eduardo Ormond You spend most of the time as the speed character and only use the other two when you have to.

    • @redhood7778
      @redhood7778 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Still the best Sonic game

    • @Euro.Patriot
      @Euro.Patriot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@redhood7778 Far from it, the gameplay is broken. Speed is way to uncontrollable, homing doesn't always work, the casino parts are fucking nightmares to finish, you have to do the same levels 8 times each with exceptions of the bosses and getting A ranks means hell on some levels like Team Dark's second mission for Ocean Palace.
      Sonic Generations was much better.
      Heroes was decent for casuals but if you dared to even think about clocking it you'd be stuck there for months and I'm saying that from experience.
      I spent almost every night for months on end in 2020 trying to A rank atleast one level per night. When I finally made it I got to Final Fortress on the super hard mode I don't think I've bothered to finish it.
      Shadow The Hedgehog was much better than Heroes and was fron the same era, talk about oMg GuNs all you want but the actual game was pretty fun to play, still play 2 player mode with my 12 year old sister sometimes.
      With Shadow you also had to do every mission 3 times an every ending 2 times and it is still much better for MOST levels.

  • @aliakbar-sth
    @aliakbar-sth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    - Only 2 Level Designers
    - Still Gazilion Times better than 🅱️orces

    • @dinohermann1887
      @dinohermann1887 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Forces only had 3 level designers, 1 worked already on Lost World, and the other 2 never worked on a single Sonic title before.

    • @NitroSanitar
      @NitroSanitar ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% Based

  • @brekfex_9332
    @brekfex_9332 2 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Sa2 might be my favorite but heroes nostalgic soundtrack and atmosphere is just amazing

    • @tdenzel101
      @tdenzel101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you someone who recognize heroes had a fire soundtrack

  • @ultrairrelevantnobody1862
    @ultrairrelevantnobody1862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    My first ever Sonic game. Still fun to play, though it can be frustrating.

    • @T.T_CenrryTH
      @T.T_CenrryTH 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I think it's ok, i just hate having to play perfectly to actually go to the special stages

    • @junglejuicejuno
      @junglejuicejuno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Did you try holding b on the rails?

    • @alternatenican
      @alternatenican 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@junglejuicejuno he's maybe talking about the level design. ngl i was also frustrated by the final level.

    • @subjectnivleis7572
      @subjectnivleis7572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The emerald stages were pure hell rest of the game was fun

    • @Starpotion
      @Starpotion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The difficulty shoots up way too fast, but the music slaps harder and harder

  • @hugoflores1093
    @hugoflores1093 2 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Man Sonic Concept Art is the coolest thing ever, i love this phantasy but realistic style for the series, Heroes to me really is a great mix of the Adventure games with the Classics structure

  • @justcallmekai1554
    @justcallmekai1554 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    12:49 "Rock Shaped Whale"
    Had to double take that one lol.

    • @RosheenQuynh
      @RosheenQuynh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right?

    • @maoraharon21
      @maoraharon21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I played this game for so many years and never knew that holy shit that's cool

    • @carolinebergin4633
      @carolinebergin4633 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The whale shaped rock was genius! 😄🐳

  • @OverX6time
    @OverX6time 2 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    17:06 Looks like the Sonic Mania Mirage Saloon Act 1 train, gigant gun and everything

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      DUDE OMG YES! I wonder if Whitehead's team got the inspiration for it from this picture..anyway, thanks for watching!

    • @GlitchanBlack
      @GlitchanBlack 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to mention, the front of the train looks like the head of Tails' (and Sonic's if you didn't get all the Emeralds) final boss in Sonic 3!

  • @pablozanoto5801
    @pablozanoto5801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fun fact: Sonic NEVER runs with his arms in back of him in this game.

  • @AkameGaKillfan777
    @AkameGaKillfan777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Nice to see someone research this game in the 2020's for proper critique instead of slander

  • @Supermariorpg6
    @Supermariorpg6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Interesting facts about me is that while SA2 was my first ever Sonic game, Sonic Heroes was the first NEW Sonic game I had ever played at the time.
    My earliest memory of this game was like.. 2004.
    I was like around like 8 years old, I'd remembered my mother and me waited outside a best buy late at a school night to purchase this game..
    Man I feel old.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Heroes was definitely one of if not my first 3D sonic games myself. Crazy to think time flies like it does hahaha. That’s so cool you remember doing what sounds like a midnight release for the game. Thanks for watching Bomber!

    • @Jovian12
      @Jovian12 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yeah, I had played Sonic with friends growing up, loved the cartoons, etc. but never had a Sega console myself. So when Sonic was starting to come to the GCN I was beyond excited for Heroes! I even have the CD OST still.

  • @CutBackDropTurn
    @CutBackDropTurn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    I remember playing Sonic Heroes back when I was a kid in 6th grade. I got it the day it came out. It was amazing. I was shocked at Knuckles' glide being... basically nothing.
    Eldarin though, I gotta say, your output is amazing! This is yet another fantastic video from you! I hope you're not stressing yourself out too much to get these out.
    Sonic Heroes is such a fun and unique game too. I don't think it gets enough credit for what it tried to do and these concept art pieces are amazing! My favorite stage is definitely Egg Fleet and I would love to see more of that stage and how it developed.
    You said that the art for that bone-spine thing Sonic was running on reminded you of Pirate Storm from Secret Rings. I can totally understand why, but my mind instantly went to Skeleton Dome from the same game. Either way, it's a really cool idea.
    I absolutely ADORE how cool and stylish Sonic looks in the concept art where he's doing that dodge, sleep, punch thing. Those sketches capture a real 'tude with the character and it just gives me goosebumps.
    Yet again, you made another great video and I hope you feel proud, man. You're doing amazing and your positive passion for Sonic is felt and reciprocated!

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey Dennis I appreciate the kind words!! Heroes is such a unique game and those concept art designs really are something I agree. Now that you mention it, I COMPLETELY forgot Skeleton Dome was even a stage LOL! But yes 100% that used some inspiration as I checked gameplay and that whole spine thing is 1to1 in the stage! Thanks for watching :))

  • @Granditamias
    @Granditamias 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    17:42 “Wait, is that a freaking Brachiosaurus?!”
    Lol, as a paleontology nerd, I think that sauropod looks more like a Diplodocus. Though the one in Secret Rings looks more like Agustinia with the spikes jutting out from the sides of its back. Yes, a dinosaur like that actually existed.
    This video had a ton of other moments that made me laugh, like the potential box art with the creepy killer Tails, and Amy and Cream drinking from Martini glasses. And Big in that storyboard also had larger eyes like a traditional Sonic character. I’ve always questioned why he has tiny yellow eyes and other cats like Blaze and Honey don’t.
    I also find it funny that you don’t encounter the giant alligator during the Chaotix’s portion of Lost Jungle. Which only would have drawn more attention to how weird it is that one crocodilian is animalistic and Vector is anthropomorphized. It also reminds me of a giant extinct crocodile called Deinosuchus, which lived in the late cretaceous period and ate dinosaurs for breakfast, so it could have been a remnant of that same scrapped concept as the sauropod.
    I really like how in this game Rouge’s ears move as she emotes, and its cool to see that was planned all the way back in the storyboards. I honestly think they should bring that detail back in the modern games.
    I found that scrapped Japanese ruins zone really interesting as well. Hopefully SEGA recycles that idea for a future game.
    I knew this was your most requested video and I was blown away learning all sorts of new stuff like Takashi Iizuka losing 22 pounds during the game’s development. Great job as always. I guess next Heroes thing to do would be the music just like the Adventure games. Until then, I’m excited to see what you do next.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sorry for the late response Granditamias but just wanted to say thank you for watching the video and im super happy to hear you got alot of laughs out of this video! There was alot of crazy stuff with the development that I too found super funny or interesting! Thats also super interesting about the Agustinia as I didnt know that kind of dinosaur existed!

  • @BrokamaGay
    @BrokamaGay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Always wondered why the Egg Fleet was sea animal themed now we know. Just chalked it up to Eggman having an interest in aquatic life or something, it was always so cool to see either way.

  • @EvangeRei
    @EvangeRei 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wouldn't be surprised seeing Cream drinking, like come on she recently went to space to save her mom at the age of 6, you need to have a stress relief somehow xD

  • @bagelgod946
    @bagelgod946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    We were so close to getting modern hooligans. Could have been really cool to maybe they could have been working for neo metal sonic.

    • @GaoGaoDragonKun98
      @GaoGaoDragonKun98 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      YES!!! finally i found someone who knows that originally we were going to have team hooligan but instead they changed it for team chaotix i wish so badly that it was team hooligan cause fang is one of my fav sonic characters and i would have loved to see a modern version of him in a sonic game and see how he would have sounded like if he talked and i wonder how their gameplay would have been like so many possibilities i kinda wish he said something about it in the vid but i guess this type of information was very very early in the game's development so i guess he didn't know about it oh well at least i found u darling!! also as for the working with neo...hmmm...very interesting~ i think u may be on to something~ darling OH YES!!

  • @Jonloo1
    @Jonloo1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The facial expressions at 8:50 remind me a lot of the little face Doom Guy has in the old DOS DOOM games.
    Some DOOM ports have support for unique skins, so maybe I could mess around with that a little...

  • @ItsNickForShort
    @ItsNickForShort 2 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    This channel is literally the ultimate encyclopedia of entertainment. Fantastic video!

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thank you so much man!!! I appreciate the kind words from the GOAT himself

  • @riqopowpow
    @riqopowpow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    10:30
    There is a final render of that concept art, with sonic looking serious, they are running out of a giant energy ring

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh no way! Ill have to check that out, thanks for watching the vid!

    • @riqopowpow
      @riqopowpow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No problem!
      Love your channel fam.

  • @petergriscom3431
    @petergriscom3431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Seeing the all the crunch, the multiplatform engine trouble, and the whole "appeal to new fans" thing, it's no wonder Heroes turned out the way it did. I feel almost guilty with how disappointed I was with Heroes, knowing now how hard they all worked on it.

    • @GoodLuckHolly
      @GoodLuckHolly 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well you know, effort doesn't make A's and all that

    • @petergriscom3431
      @petergriscom3431 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@GoodLuckHolly Yeah, the engine was a slippery mess, and the levels and enemies were such a chore. And it's still baffling as to why they gave us gimped versions of Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles awkwardly grabbing each other, when they could've just had us tag between each unburdened character.

  • @purplesabbath9057
    @purplesabbath9057 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I never used to care for Heroes, but I recently went back and started replaying it and I'm enjoying it a lot more this time.

  • @worthlessfools1
    @worthlessfools1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Early prototypes of the game also used a lot of SA1 / SA2 placeholders, such as textures and music. It was generic stuff, but it shows they still viewed Heroes as a sort of spiritual successor to the Adventure titles.

  • @Elias-hm7we
    @Elias-hm7we 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really wish some of these concepts didn't get scrapped. Casino levels could benefit from having more mechanics than just pinball tables, for example. The concept art of those trains is amazing, too.

  • @starmaster65
    @starmaster65 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Daaang, I totally forgot about the scrapped zone concept art! Cool to see how they possibly reworked them into future titles. Makes me wish they delayed Heroes to give it the extra polish and content it deserved. Still love the game though!

  • @devingiles6597
    @devingiles6597 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey, Eldarin. You should do a video on the art of Sonic Heroes soundtrack!

  • @dylanbaron__
    @dylanbaron__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Premy would respect Iizuka a lot more if he knew that he designed so much of the level design in this game

  • @Sea_of_Waves
    @Sea_of_Waves 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I kept rewinding "Shadow Basketball" constantly

  • @Nothavinit00
    @Nothavinit00 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'd love to see some of the concept art for "Shadow The Hedgehog".

  • @TimDespairBear11
    @TimDespairBear11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sonic heroes is an awesome game, it’s probably the most underrated 3D sonic.

  • @Vegitodraws
    @Vegitodraws 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Bro, why you cut away from my boi Shadow dunkin that B'ball like LeBron James. Shadow basketball is legendary meme status

  • @ThatOneAwkGuy
    @ThatOneAwkGuy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bro I've had this game since like 2005, and I've NEVER noticed the whale island in Seaside, that's nuts

  • @OmegaSon
    @OmegaSon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I love Heroes so much man lol. It’s super nostalgic to me too, might’ve been the the first game I ever played. Man I wish we got ports of everything onto modern hardware, it’s killing me not being able to relive this and all the other games from this time on PS4. Anyway though, awesome job on the video dude, also concept art you showed was unbelievably godly especially that Hang Castle one

    • @OmegaSon
      @OmegaSon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hebbocake all I got is a ps4

    • @James-pb8xu
      @James-pb8xu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OmegaSon mod it and put an emulator on there

    • @OmegaSon
      @OmegaSon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@James-pb8xu no

  • @nottoofast
    @nottoofast 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I gotta say I love the proportions on Rouge in 8:1
    Would be cool to see models like that.
    Also, *Rock Shaped Whale*

  • @asari8078
    @asari8078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Shadow should’ve been in space jam 2

  • @MilesFox92
    @MilesFox92 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Sonic Heroes was criminally underrated IMO. Yeah, it has its flaws like some level bugs that I encounter every walkthrough, but damn, the team gameplay and the level designs are just awesome. I wish this would be remastered instead of Colors :(
    Video was great good luck in future videos! :)

  • @MetaKnuxXbeats
    @MetaKnuxXbeats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This probably has one of the most interesting concept arts I have ever seen for a Sonic game. Makes me wonder how the game would of been if they kept a lot of the stuff that were in the concept art. I do think a lot of the concepts ended up being reused for later games since the main series console game that come out after Heroes (besides Shadow the Hedgehog) was 06 and Secret Rings was supposed to be a Wii version of 06 so it makes me wonder....

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is a good point! I forgot about the 06 split on the wii turning into secret rings..I suppose they had to go to the vault since they didnt have the time to get think of a bunch of new zones maybe? Not sure. Anyways, thanks for watching MetaKnux!

    • @MetaKnuxXbeats
      @MetaKnuxXbeats 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Eldarin though that dose make me wonder if the 06 Wii port idea was done in full, how different would the game be? Of course it wouldn’t be the same as Secret Rings (or Wild Fire as it was called early on) but if we use Unleashed as an example, ironically another game that came right after 06, the next gen versions and the Wii/PS2 versions of Unleashed was fairly different. Not story wise but there are levels that are either not present or designed differently. Not really sure if a dinosaur and Pirate ship level would be present but I think Shahra was ment to be the Elise of the game. Probably overthinking this but I am considering all possibilities.

  • @mattmarrillia4907
    @mattmarrillia4907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey, I remember reading that GameInformer Article!

  • @robonaught
    @robonaught 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:33 Metal Sonic originally being one of the playable team characters seems to imply he wasn't going to be the main antagonist in the early drafts and was gonna have a more heroic role. While I do like Metal as the main antagonist i'm a little sad this scrapped because Metal deserves to have more heroic roles in more games. The only game so far he does anything heroic is Rivals 2.

    • @DynoSkrimisher
      @DynoSkrimisher 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, it would be nice for him to fight his programming or compete with sonic like how Shadow does.

  • @seasidecolors5277
    @seasidecolors5277 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is a really good video. Sonic Heroes is my favorite Sonic game and it's cool to see a piece by piece analysis of the available material from it's development stages.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Seaside! Super happy you enjoyed the video.I agree its super interesting checking out the development for this game.

  • @KilosFoxo
    @KilosFoxo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    so basically the idea for heroes initally was
    just make every fucking sonic character who had ever appeared before in the franchise playable

  • @VampireA1056
    @VampireA1056 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sonic Heroes is my second favorite 3D Sonic game next to Sonic Unleashed, it's a very slept on game in my opinion.

  • @six5157
    @six5157 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    waking up - shadow the hedgehog - ost is my favorite sonic heroes song

    • @ElenStar3343
      @ElenStar3343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pfttt! Fist Pump is my favoritw track on Sonic Heroes

    • @ballpitwater
      @ballpitwater 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah yes, You're my number one - Sonic R OST
      My favorite Heroes track

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ay yes, Sonic Mania...my favorite Sonic Heroes game

  • @Hutch2Much
    @Hutch2Much 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    i absolutely adore all this concept art, even more than some of the Adventure series art. ironic seeing how Heroes is my least favorite in the series lol

    • @gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179
      @gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If I can ask, why is it your least favorite? :

    • @Hutch2Much
      @Hutch2Much 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179 physics mostly

    • @Unkn0wn_189
      @Unkn0wn_189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Adventure 1, 2 and heroes are my favourite out of the 3D games

    • @Unkn0wn_189
      @Unkn0wn_189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh and sonic riders the first one, sonic generations is also great

    • @Unkn0wn_189
      @Unkn0wn_189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also Sonic Venture Plus it really makes you feel like sonic, and Sonic Robo Blast 2

  • @BWF6_Official
    @BWF6_Official 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Once again very interesting! Concept art is the only type of source that shows how a game has changed without looking at prototypes. Sonic Heroes surely has changed in its development. The colored stage concepts are very beautiful.

  • @fnaf2isthegoat75
    @fnaf2isthegoat75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Even though I don't like the gameplay I will admit it's has some of the most ambitious Sonic level design.

    • @7mamdouh748
      @7mamdouh748 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree! sonic team's story has the level design (mostly) focused on speed.

  • @PurplePandaClock
    @PurplePandaClock 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Omega's design in the storyboard looks like Commando Man from Mega Man 10

    • @Protosilver97
      @Protosilver97 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He reminds more of Napalm Man, but yeah, he looks like a Mega Man character.

  • @John1497
    @John1497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow amazing vid man!!!

  • @uzer141
    @uzer141 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for not only showing off Sonic Heroes but also putting some respect on SA2B in this day in age! 💯 I was nodding my head in the intro when you mentioned how SA2B was one of the best Sonic games and I 100% agree. I don’t regret getting all 180 emblems with multiple chaos chao(s)

  • @Spongeton16
    @Spongeton16 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My favorite game of all time ❤️

  • @KYRA_RISING
    @KYRA_RISING 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:06 When I first saw that concept on the Sonic wiki, I thought the sleep was a scrapped idle animation. But now that I think about it, using it in a mocking manner against enemies as if to say “Wow, this is so easy it’s boring” would’ve been hilarious. The other dodge and attack moves are drawn really well, too.
    If only these older 3D games weren’t held back by technical limitations…

  • @soulsparx
    @soulsparx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the way i always interpreted it, stages that share assets are the same place, just different "acts"; seaside hill is act 1, ocean palace is act 2, casino park is act 1, bingo highway is act 2, etc etc

    • @mizzix
      @mizzix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think thats what the devs intended, just wasnt called acts because heroes is kind of a mix of classic and adventure and they went with the adventure naming method

  • @AuntieAliasing
    @AuntieAliasing 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Jōmon-Yayoi-Kofun level at 21:21 most likely became Gigan Rocks (and Device) in Sonic Riders: Shooting Star Story/Zero Gravity

  • @sachab-h2907
    @sachab-h2907 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve just started watching and your topics exhibit what I want the sonic franchise to be remembered by, some of the funnest platform games of all time with memorable characters, locations and DAMN GOOD MUSIC!

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much Sacha, it truly means alot to hear you enjoy my videos! I am trying my best to show my love for the series! :)))

  • @evanhanley6437
    @evanhanley6437 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its so cool to hear more about this game that I didn't know of. Those pieces of concept art are absolutely incredible! This will always be my favourite Sonic game. Amazing work!

  • @christianlamar_
    @christianlamar_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Heroes needs a remake or remaster for the switch. That would be so much fun with online play in the multiplayer mode.
    I remember foolishly having the ps2 version of the game and really thinking that’s how it played. Then a couple of years later I got the GameCube version and had a much better experience

  • @Argentavis
    @Argentavis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really appreciate that you include sources and really dive deep into your research. Also, your setup, editing, and script as a whole is fantastic!
    You deserve a hell of a lot more subs!

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! It truly means alot. Super happy to hear you enjoy it :))

  • @75JUNAKI
    @75JUNAKI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:12 :
    Wait so the hooligans and Metal Sonic, Mighty and Ray were gonna be in Sonic Heroes?
    Few things to say.
    1. Haven’t finished the video yet.
    2. Mighty & Ray and those hooligans before their cameos in Generations and official reappearance in Mania Plus?
    3. Metal Sonic, but wasn’t the main/mysterious villain in his weird Neo form?
    4. Just realized Chaos, E102 and Big were a team WHAT?
    5. Just also realized Amy, Cream and Rouge?
    That last team (I believe) was in my pitch from mid 2017 for Sonic Adventure 3 right before I left Middle School (no kidding)

    • @riqopowpow
      @riqopowpow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      3. They came with the teams first and then the story. That's why metal sonic is in a team. If they kept those teams the story would've been a different one (Also shadow wasn't a member because he was death and the team didn't know what to do with him, so the whole team dark, neither omega, would exist)

    • @75JUNAKI
      @75JUNAKI 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@riqopowpow
      Oh make sense now, still didn’t expect the hoolagins (misspelling) and Mighty & Ray.

    • @riqopowpow
      @riqopowpow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@75JUNAKI Oh yeah. If they kept those teams the whole franchise would be different. Shadow wouldn't be alive, neither Omega, and Might, Ray, Fang would have a modern design.
      I hope there is some concept art of those characters by uekawa haha

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah those scrapped teams were crazy! I couldn’t believe that metal sonic was going to be playable. Kinda makes you wonder where they were going to take the plot in that case. Thanks for watching!

    • @75JUNAKI
      @75JUNAKI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Eldarin
      There’s so much to take in, especially the characters like Mighty & Ray and others in a Modern Sonic game.
      Would’ve like to seen that tbh, I think they should’ve had there be more characters but maybe it’s for the best there isn’t.

  • @sethmushambavanhu8391
    @sethmushambavanhu8391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow I though forces dev's had troubles but heroes is something else

  • @pixelatedink774
    @pixelatedink774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:48
    "Rock shaped whale."
    Imagine that lmao

  • @nothumanz
    @nothumanz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sonic will forever be stuck midair posing

  • @danielgarciaescudero2862
    @danielgarciaescudero2862 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When I became a fan like 10 years ago, I got Sonic heroes for Gamecube and played it a lot until a stage I couldnt beat, that was the crocodile part from frog forest. Then I tried the game once more a couple of times on these recent years, and its pretty fun and great, but with many glitches and bugs that could be easily fixed with a rerelease.

  • @Cisconic
    @Cisconic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Yeeee boiiiiiii

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      hell ye buddeh thanks for stopping by!

  • @CheerUpCrewcut
    @CheerUpCrewcut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tons of interesting stage and storyboard art... nice. Thanks for compiling it all together like this, your videos are great.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much it really means alot :D

  • @DemonDethchase
    @DemonDethchase 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video as always dude
    With Rouge's black suit, I think maybe instead of red, I'd say that deep purple would be a better choice, but saying I am partial to abit of purple so there is that XD
    Also here's hoping we get a HD port of Heroes soon, and hopefully not caring over any of the "improvements" from Colours Ultimate, like the training wheels that permanently fixed to the game with the Tails Save and 100 to give you invincibility.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks Demon! I hope we get a HD port of Heroes soon too! It honestly wouldn’t be much to port the GameCube version over and make it widescreen and such as the game still looks quite good in my opinion!

    • @DemonDethchase
      @DemonDethchase 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Eldarin yep, and having a playable Tails on your team is the only Tails Save you need. However if there was to be one new improvement I would like to see for Heroes in a remaster, and this would be a genuine one: have Tails, and the other Fly type characters, be able to run around just the same as the Speed and Power types. That was one thing I didn't like about it, as I'd prefer to see Tails and Rouge play more like their Adventure styles, however they'd still able to do the team moves ofcourse.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that is a good idea about the fly type characters. I have two things I’d propose for a remake: 1. Tweak to fly characters so they can glide a bit when running out of fly power snd 2. Being able to switch in middair and use abilities.Would definitely be interested to see what they do with it

    • @DemonDethchase
      @DemonDethchase 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Eldarin I think that could work, being able to swap whenever. Because that's what Marvel vs Capcom Infinite did with its tag team mechanic and it worked pretty well in it I thought.

  • @gumbo342
    @gumbo342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great video as always.

  • @TheEternalSamurai
    @TheEternalSamurai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yo! Loved this vid! Sonic Heroes is one of my most fav and nostalgic Sonic games. Real interesting to see the behind the scenes work. Looking forward to more Eldarin. 😁

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much Samic! Also thanks for stopping by man...means alot! Glad you enjoyed the video :DD

  • @TwoTailedSponge
    @TwoTailedSponge 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these storyboards shown here.

  • @cirrus1286
    @cirrus1286 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    honestly i fucking loved sonic heroes even if it was flawed and learning about its development is interesting.

  • @Antonio-is2cn
    @Antonio-is2cn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I first played Sonic Heroes in a McDonald's playground area with a kiosk with the Gamecube version of Heroes which became one of my favorite Sonic games, I also remember the Mini LCD Sonic Games from McDonald's!

  • @SLGayming
    @SLGayming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing work as always man. Always intresting to see the info you can uncover in your videos. Amazing work as always and good luck on whatever this 4th unrevealed video you have been working on for a while

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much SL! Means alot, and itll be released shortly ;)

    • @SLGayming
      @SLGayming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Eldarin looking forward to it buddy

  • @kenanwallace2124
    @kenanwallace2124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm surprised I've only just found this channel. The only other channel I've seen breakdown Sonic art in some capacity is Mark the Artist in terms of the evolution of the characters, so it's nice to see someone go in depth on other aspects like concept, environment and storyboard art. Consider me subbed and likewise, Heroes is indeed a favorite of mine.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy to hear you enjoyed the video!! Thanks for watching and hope you enjoy the ride :D

  • @puppymaroon964
    @puppymaroon964 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Let’s assume that the plan for the original teams in Sonic Heroes were the teams we got for the game. Here are my ideas for this:
    Sonic, Tails, Knuckles (Team Sonic)
    The story, gameplay, and theme song will be more or less the same.
    Amy, Cream, Rouge (Team Rose)
    The story starts with Amy relaxing at the beach. She wonders aloud what Sonic is up today and is approached by Cream the Rabbit. (This will be when Amy and Cream meet each for the first time. Mind you, I am going to be changing some lore in this hypothetical story.) Cream tells Amy that her mom is missing. Cream has found a ransom note saying that if she ever wants to see her mom again, she will have to hand over Cheese. Amy agrees to help Cream find her mother. The two are joined by Rouge who states that maybe she can get to do some treasure hunting along the way. Gameplay wise, Amy is speed, Cream is flight, and Rouge is power and Amy is the leader. Each level will be a fetch quest to collect chao. The Team Blast will have Amy, Cream, and Rouge perform a synchronized dance with flowers flying everywhere. The theme will be Follow Me. At the end of the story, Cream is reunited with her mom. Rouge states that even though she didn’t find any treasure, she still had a good time. Amy sees Sonic in the distance and goes after him.
    Chaos, E102, Big (Team Heart)
    The story opens with E102 navigating through a jungle. (This is a different E102 from the one we played as in Sonic Adventure.) We then get some backstory on E102. E102 was a robot built by Dr. Eggman that was powered up by a mysterious, pink ring Eggman found. The ring caused E102 to become stronger and more powerful as well as more intelligent and compassionate. Because of his newfound compassion, E102 didn’t want to work for Eggman anymore and thus abandoned him. E102 is now traveling around the world exploring and helping any animals he sees in distress. Just then, a frog jumps out of the bushes and lands on E102’s head. It’s Froggy. E102 removes Froggy from his head and examines him. E102 then hears Big the Cat calling out for Froggy. E102 questions if this frog he is holding is the Froggy in question. Just then, E102 spots a puddle approaching him. It’s Chaos. E102 learns from Chaos that chao are being abducted by an evil spirit. (Communicating with chao is another one of E102’s powers.) Tikal and Chaos were supposed to go rescue the chao, but the evil spirit kidnapped Tikal. Suddenly, Chaos reverts to his puddle form. When E102 asks what’s wrong, Chaos warns that the evil spirit is behind him. E102 turns around, but before he can attack, the evil spirit snatches Froggy and disappears. At that moment, Big arrives. Big asks E102 if he’s seen Froggy. E102 replies: “I believe I found your Froggy. Unfortunately, a malevolent spirit has stolen it.” To which Big exclaims: “Oh no! We gotta save Froggy!” E102 assures Big that they will save Froggy and assures Chaos that they will save Tikal and the chao. Thus the trio’s quest begins. Gameplay wise, Chaos is speed, E102 is flight, and Big is power, and E102 is the leader. The Team Heart Story will be the easy mode of the game. The Team Blast will have Chaos and Big latch onto E102 as the trio focus their combined strength on the laser E102 fires. The theme will be entitled We’ll Be There and it will be a cute, sweet song about helping others. At the end of the story, Chaos, E102, and Big save Tikal and Froggy from the evil spirit. They also find the kidnapped chao who have been freed by Team Rose.
    Espio, Charmy, Vector (Team Chaotix)
    The story and the theme will be more or less the same. The gameplay will be identical to the one in the original game except they will simply be collecting rings.
    Fang, Bean, Bark (Team Hooligan)
    The story begins with Fang, Bean, and Bark entering a temple. They have come looking for the legendary Sapphire of Shadows in hopes of selling it for a lot of money. They find the Sapphire of Shadows only to find that half of the sapphire is missing. So they set off to find the other half of the sapphire. Gameplay wise, Fang is speed, Bean is flight, and Bark is power, and Fang is the leader. The Team Hooligan Story will be the hard mode of the game. The Team Blast will have Fang firing his pistol, Bean throwing bombs, and Bark pounding his fists causing debris to fall. The theme will be entitled Hunters of Fortune. It will be a rock song that revolves around Team Hooligan. The story ends with Team Hooligan finding the other half of the Sapphire of Shadows.
    Metal Sonic, Ray, Mighty (Team Mighty)
    The story begins with Mighty the Armadillo on a date with Tiara Boobowski. Suddenly, the evil spirit snatches Tiara and knocks Mighty unconscious. (This is inspired by one of the story drafts for the canceled Sonic X-treme game.) Meanwhile, Ray is over at Tiara’s house playing with Metal Sonic. After the events of Sonic CD, Metal Sonic was discovered by Tiara’s father Dr. Boobowski.
    Dr. Boobowski fixed Metal Sonic up and changed his body from blue to white and his eyes from red to blue. (This redesign was inspired by Metal Sonic’s design in the fangame Sonic Future.) Dr. Boobowski also altered Metal Sonic’s programming so he won’t be obligated to follow Eggman’s orders anymore. Dr. Boobowski notices that Tiara and Mighty have not come back from their date yet, so he sends Ray and Metal Sonic out to see if things are okay. Ray and Metal Sonic find Mighty who tells them what happened. So the trio set off to rescue Tiara. Gameplay wise, Metal Sonic is speed, Ray is flight, and Mighty is power, and Mighty is the leader. Each level will have you beat it in a certain amount of time. The team blast will have Metal Sonic, Ray, and Mighty perform spin dashes. The theme will be entitled We’re In This Together. This theme will be a song by Crush 40 about the quest of Team Mighty. The story ends with Metal Sonic, Ray, and Mighty saving Tiara from the evil spirit.
    The stages in this hypothetical Sonic Heroes will be the same as the original Sonic Heroes. However, each stage will be just one act instead of two. And as for boss battles, the only bosses in the team stories will be the robot carnivals and the Egg Emperor. The way you unlock the Final Story will be the same as how you unlock the Final Story in the original Sonic Heroes.
    Final Story
    It’s revealed that the evil spirit was the one pretending to be Eggman. The real Eggman unleashed the evil spirit to use as a weapon to conquer the world. Unfortunately, the evil spirit took over Eggman’s robots and imprisoned him. The evil spirit then lured the teams into fighting it so he can copy their abilities and reach its full power. The evil spirit then transforms into a hideous monster and swallows Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles. Tikal tells the other teams that they need to work together to save Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles as they are the only team in which all three members have gone super at some point and therefore are the only ones that can use the Chaos Emeralds to stop the evil spirit from destroying the planet. Thus the boss battle begins. The goal of the first phase is to attack the spirit’s stomach so it vomits out Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles. You first play as Team Rose, then Team Mighty, then Team Heart, then Team Chaotix, then finally Team Hooligan. After you finish the first phase, a cutscene plays that has the evil spirit puke out Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles. Sonic thanks the other teams for saving them and he and Tails and Knuckles use the Chaos Emeralds to go super. The evil spirit recovers and prepares to finish off the teams, but it’s too late. Sonic, Tails, and Knuckles stop the evil spirit’s attack and the second phase of the boss battle begins. The way you win the second phase is similar to how you win the second phase in the original Sonic Heroes. After you beat the boss battle, a cutscene plays where the evil spirit is sealed back into the Sapphire of Shadows. Tikal and Chaos return to the afterlife as Big, E102, and the chao wave goodbye, Sonic heads off with Tails and Amy following him, Cream heads home with her mother, Team Mighty heads home with Tiara, Rouge leaves for the Master Emerald with Knuckles in hot pursuit, Team Chaotix go after Eggman, and Team Hooligan decide to give the Sapphire of Shadows to G.U.N. so they can secure it.

  • @d3-penguin954
    @d3-penguin954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Another great video. I’ve been waiting for a sonic heroes video. It’s unironically one of my favorite 3D sonic games. It’s kind of a shame the reception of the game is still a bit on the divisive side in the fandom

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you enjoyed it! I got one more video of Heroes on its music underway right now. Thanks so much for watching

  • @mauriziogomez6649
    @mauriziogomez6649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was just thinking of Heroes concept art today... good work esper Eldarin.

  • @luizmiguel5484
    @luizmiguel5484 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think it's not a novelty that I love concept arts and seeing the work and ideas of the producers, I wanted so much that some ideas that appeared in the video and were even discarded were used in future games like those ruins that look like a giant robot or a new Frog Forest, some people might even say "but Sonic's world is weird, how can you have more realistic locations and other fantasies?" It's simple, I don't believe that excuse of "Sonic world and planet Earth are different" for me it was just a mess, the best justification would be that Sonic world It is planet Earth but with several civilizations living together, both humans and anthropomorphic animals coexist and with these civilizations we have more common areas like the one we see in the Unleashed for example and more fanciful ones like in Heroes (And it's also worth remembering that we have more advanced areas and civilizations than others, the Knuckles Clan and the Nocturnos Clan are an example of this and the game zones are another addition to that), "but what about the map of Unleashed and Heroes? Are they not different?" Yes, but Sonic Unleashed is focused on traveling around the world, so much so that the Japanese name is "Sonic World Adventure" so obviously the world map will be detailed, but as in Forces this is not focus they just put random pieces of land to simulate the dominated areas and with that you can already connect the games, even though Riders is spin off doesn't mean it can't be considered Canon because many of the areas there, especially the futuristic cities, are similar to those in traditional games and Babylon Rogues do not appear in platform games because their focus is on racing games and it's not just because they're not there that you want say they are not part of the main line (it just doesn't make sense for them in a game they don't need to appear in) by doing this I think it already answers the question about the world of Sonic and if we stop to analyze the world of Sonic it is Infinite, because there will always be new zones and even new versions like the Metropolitan Highway, which is a new version of the Grand Metropolis, that is, it is practically impossible to make a Sonic world map, the most you can do is separate the zones by types and make a list but one interesting idea I had was to take the idea of ​​Unleashed and try to locate all zones or at least most and for them close to some country or region, like the Ice Cap would be close to Canada for example, or Route 99 would be on the highway somewhere in the USA and so on and the ones that are not close to or within a country we leave as "undefined" or put "near the zone 'name from the zone' " I think this could help to further explore the world of Sonic even a little bit

  • @rigbysmith2333
    @rigbysmith2333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    New Eldarin upload = indescribably BASED

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much Rigby :)))

  • @DaGrblz
    @DaGrblz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I had a blast drawing the thumbnail art for this video, thank you again for having me do it man!! And the video is awesome, you've done it yet again!! :DD

  • @hiraeth7250
    @hiraeth7250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am now going to use this video and others like it to inform my headcanon of what the ideal heroes remake would be, a thought I escape into when I need reprieve from my depressive episodes 😌💗

  • @majic144p
    @majic144p 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    12:48 *ROCK-SHAPED WHALE.*

  • @gumbo342
    @gumbo342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great video as always

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks so much Matthew!

  • @noodletribunal9793
    @noodletribunal9793 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:50 i was just thinking about those recently. i really actually enjoyed those, and LOVED the designs

  • @the-NightStar
    @the-NightStar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I may have hated Sonic Heroes and never enjoyed it as a game, but it's still interesting seeing it's concept art.

  • @nexusetmiaouss
    @nexusetmiaouss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is beautiful!

  • @mattvirginia8501
    @mattvirginia8501 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sonic heroes was my first ever Sonic game, if not my first ever game I really got into! I love it. I should get back to playing with it. I loved the tornado attack and it introduced me to my favorite characters, Shadow and Metal Sonic! It formed at least a large portion of who I am today.

  • @LAZY-RUBY
    @LAZY-RUBY 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another fun fact: All the CG cutscenes were animated by the same studio behind the animated Tech Deck commercials from the early 2000s!

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used to love those when I was younger! That’s so cool, I didn’t know that. Thanks for watching!

  • @Xchi
    @Xchi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a great thing to wake up to great vid like always

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much Diplomatic! It means alot!

  • @GhostandChromis
    @GhostandChromis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe a lot of those stage art pieces was done by Hiroshi Nishiyama, who was the Field Art Director for Heroes, as well as SA2 and Shadow. He's recently returned to the series and is serving as Art Director for all media of the series including animation, merchandising and video games.

  • @asyadolinin1352
    @asyadolinin1352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! I thought this channel would have more subscribers, given the quality and the entertainment value of the content.
    Thank you for the great videos! The concept art and character development ones are especially fun.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much for the kind words Asya it truly means alot to hear that. I am just happy to be able to share the work thats put into these games and give people a better appreciation of them. Hope you enjoy whats to come!

    • @asyadolinin1352
      @asyadolinin1352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for answering to my comment! It's an honor.
      Also, really looking forward to seeing your channel grow (as a subscriber now) and finding out more about some of my favourite games.
      P.S.: Would you like to make a video on the world map of Sonic games? How it changed and if Adventure's map is compatible with Unleashed map or if they are completely different, etc.
      It's an interesting topic, imho.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The honor is you watching my videos out of the thousands on here :) The world map of sonic games is certainly interesting! Are you saying like if SA1 and say unleashed’s sections took place on a map where they would be? Or if the world of sonic is interconnected?

    • @asyadolinin1352
      @asyadolinin1352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To answer your question: the latter. It's fascinating to me that Unleashed has a whole world map, and where the Adventure 1 and 2's cities and islands could fit on it.
      After all, it's been established that Adventure 1 and Adventure 2 are on the same map and that Station Square exists in both games.
      Seemed like a topic worth exploring to me, I suppose :)

  • @Luigifan4ever11
    @Luigifan4ever11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sonic Heroes has to be one of my favourite Sonic games. I can only hope one day we'll get an updated rerelease with touched up graphics, while still keeping the core ideas/mechanics/etc

  • @MaverickKayPrime
    @MaverickKayPrime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love unlocking concept art in videogames, so imagine my disappointment when I got the Red Rings in Sonic Forces and realized they don't do diddlysquat. Especially since I feel like Sonic Forces concept art would be really cool to look through. I wonder how many different races the Avatar went through before we got the races we got in the game, but I digress.
    Now that you're done with Sonic Heroes though, I wonder what you'll do next. If I have to say, maybe Shadow the Hedgehog? I have no idea where you're getting all this concept art from (and I'm super jealous), so if you could find something on that, that would be really cool.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Super happy to hear you enjoyed the video! ((you wont be disappointed ;)))

  • @MilkshakeSkunkette
    @MilkshakeSkunkette 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great video man! always pumping out quality content! :D

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate it! :DD

  • @shonenbois
    @shonenbois 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sea Side Hill is still a Really cool Level and Generations upgraded it to an all time high

  • @aortaplatinum
    @aortaplatinum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Imagine how awesome Heroes would be if SonicTeam didn't have to use Renderware and it was only released for XBOX. No storage limitations of the GameCube's tiny discs, no technical hurdles trying to get it to run on PS2, all the horsepower of the most technically impressive console of that generation... bruh

    • @benjaminosorio6808
      @benjaminosorio6808 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Apparently Sonic Heroes was going to be exclusive to Gamecube at first and at a certain point in development they ported it to Xbox and PS2.
      In addition, neither Xbox nor Gamecube were once the most powerful console in its entirety, having very different architecture and operation and in certain aspects Xbox is superior to Gamecube and in other Gamecube it is superior to Xbox 👍

  • @backwardsbandit8094
    @backwardsbandit8094 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It only just occurred to me how unique seaside hill and ocean palace are. I'm not sure which culture they took inspiration from at all! Is there anywhere in the world that has palaces with similar architecture and style? If not then they really did a fantastic job coming up with such a wildly unique location.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hmmm, well that is a really good question. I’m not sure and haven’t seen anything in regards to that so when I say this it’s purely speculative..my only two guesses would be it’s remains from their South American trip for SA1 and the South American Indian cultures from there or from the California area Mexican/South American Indian cultures as this game was mainly developed there. They took a trip for both SA1&2 (South America and California) cultural inspiration to base the ideas for those games so maybe it was a mix of the two? I’m not sure but if you find anything on it let me know as that’s got me thinking now too LOL

  • @kevin_kevinson
    @kevin_kevinson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lets Go! Sonic Heroes is the last game I Enjoyed. I consider it the end of the good Era 😄

  • @neuteka
    @neuteka 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    dude, your channel is criminally underrated. These vids are of the highest QUALITY.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you so much and it really means alot! :DD

  • @ZigDaKid
    @ZigDaKid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome vid as always man! waiting for the next live stream! :p

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man means alot! Dont worry they will be back soon enough :))

  • @PaulieI
    @PaulieI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was amazed when I saw the in production intro on one of the mega collections

  • @thedinguskhan9299
    @thedinguskhan9299 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love your videos, man. Sonic Heroes isn’t my favorite game but it sure is an interesting one.

    • @Eldarin
      @Eldarin  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much man it really means alot to hear the kind words!!! This games development was for sure an interesting one, I agree!

  • @BlueAmpharos
    @BlueAmpharos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    23:10 They're also in some of the classic titles too! Especially the fiery ones that were in Hilltop Zone but I'm sure there were spikey ones before that.