Do We Take Video Game Companions For Granted? - GreedFall PS4 Gameplay
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ต.ค. 2024
- Look, I'm sorry (not sorry), but after playing a chunk of #GreedFall, we think we might all be taking our companions for granted. After one companion betrayed us instead of merely leaving her party, Zoe has made a video about how companions in video games like the Fallout games, and Skyrim - to name a few - get the short end of the stick, yet somehow we're still shocked when they dare to do something to harm us, even after being by our side for most of the game.
Filled with GreedFall gameplay, this video might even get you in the mood to play Spiders' latest RPG - or, at the very least, be kinder to your companions. Hopefully.
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Can’t relate to not immediately doing all companion quests as soon as they are available
Right? That's the only way to play XD
I wish I waited before doing Vasco’s quests. I won’t spoil anything but I will say do the Naut quests before Vasco’s quests.
I wouldn't mind an RPG where you're forced to build up relationships with a group of people who then decide they're going to sacrifice you for whatever reason about halfway through the plot. If your companions could gang up against you, that could make for a really interesting twist that I don't think has ever been done. Also, I've always preferred playing solo & it'd be nice to flip a party based friendship-building RPG into a solo vengeance affair.
But I'm an invincible God who will destroy them. Or not.
It shows how good this game is and how underrated it's potential is 😍
I remember in my first time playing Dragon Age: Origins I asked Morrigan if we were friends and some how insulted her to point of like -7 or 8 points. I was devastated and turned my game off immediately, so save from having her hate me. It cost me hours of game play and probably a mission or two, but I stand by my decision.
Wise choice. The main quest of all the DA games was only ever to make Morrigan like you, & all the intrigue & invasions & dragons & stuff were just flavour text.
@@nightcatarts I have no regrets.
Damn. I'm simultaneously glad and disappointed that none of my companions betrayed me in my playthrough, since it would have been quite an interesting twist.
(Also, you can warn both cities about the coup. Maybe it's related to your diplomatic relations with those factions as well?)
Yaaseen Bodhanya it’s only if the character in question betrays you that you have to choose.
@@whatsinaname1709 Ah, thanks. That makes more sense
I naturally missed an entire part of the game?! Do I really appreciate my companions that much?
Man you were so good to your companions you missed out on content haha
I feel like I missed out on a lot because nobody betrayed me. It's weird that one of them joined me and immediately started trying to betray their own faction. They all come off as weirdly loyal to the person they just met.
Do you mean Petrus? I don't think he was trying to betray his faction per se, it seemed more like a political game between him and Cornelia
@@ybodhanya I know that was the intent, but the execution wasn't that good. It felt like "hey person that I met 3 minutes ago, let's black mail my religious leader/head of state." I guess my problem 6with how quick it started. I would have preferred if they waited at least a couple more quests.
@@paschal4437
Well, it's because it was you specifically. After all, you're a symbol of his failures. But yeah, maybe they should have emphasized that more.
Probably why I find that while Kurt isn't my favorite companion, he has my favorite companion quest out of all of them.
@@paschal4437 I got the impression that Petrus knew me from before we moved to the island. And I think Petrus is only loyal to himself and his quest for personal power.
@@paschal4437 I got the feeling of your too friendly that means you want something, and when he offered to help it was a "let me help you help me" thing that I figured would happen.
Giving your companion a flower is incidentally also a thing that can happen with Leliana in Dragon Age: Origins.
I was surprised when the 1st betrayal happened. That immediate cut scene caught me by surprise and I can't do anything about it. Luckily I already finished a few loyalty quest at that time so it didn't fully happen. But it still kinda hurts that they were planning to kill and betray you from the beginning.
The idea of sending companions on missions makes me think of the war table in Dragon Age: Inquisition. Something like that then debriefing with the companion about the mission would be a rather interesting game mechanic. As well as tying it into something along the lines of the Mass Effect loyalty missions would be really fun to explore.
Sending companions on missions it's not new. It has been done in Star wars the old Republic. And it was great. Best quest relationship build up. It's so well done that I want to go back and finish some I have not done yet. I need time freeze or time machine.
Really appreciated this video, Zoe! What you've described as happening in GreedFall, reminds me of Blackwall in Dragon Age: Inquisition. I loved that BioWare had the balls to make an, on-the-surface, honourable character harbour such a secret that completely shifted the way you thought about them. More moments like that, and what you've described, can only be to the betterment of the medium's quality of narrative and character.
Not only that but they also did the whole companion character betraying you with one particular character in Dragon Age: Inquisition - Trespasser DLC. One particular choice in the main game came to bite you in the arse much later on.
This game is gonna become an underrated gem/cult classic like Kingdoms of Amalur.
If Greedfall only had a combat system as brilliant as KoA, while leaving everything else the same, it would have been an absolutely perfect game. Even with its current *meh* combat, it’s already a very good game. I liked KoA very much, but I think it had *way* too many inconsequential quests that didn’t add to the story. Still, I’ve never found a combat system as easily customizable-and as fun-as KoA had. A shame that the IP is trapped in limbo; I felt like a second game in the series might have trimmed some of the fat and achieved greater success. I hope Greedfall gets an opportunity to improve upon the first game and continue in this fascinating world they’ve built!
This game is an underrated gem
I need you to self projecting on me, I adore all my companions, and treat them like little baby puppy angels
Best companion game I ever played all the side missions had good dialog didn't have to read a lot unlike other games
God i love this game
Going by the title the answer for me is no I don't as I dragged out the main store to do side quests, level up, and explore, so I did those personal quests, (Skyrim is the exception, stupid flat AI).
Fallout 3 and up + Skyrim, I never used companions unless it was quest specific. They just got in the way or screwed up your stealth. That being said Lydia had dragonbone everything if she ever needed it. On the other hand i got quite invested in Morrigan in Dragon Age Origins.
I only know of one betrayal. Do the others betray too?
Game is friggin excellent.. that’s all I have to say
Do i take companions for granted or anyone? No. Companions in video games are for a fact not real its a video game after all not real life.companions in game are meant to add life but they are also just a another feature in a video game.
Siora is my boo but she denied me. Aphra joined late and I lost reputation when I first brought it up but in the end she still let me holla holla holla. Also Siora’s sister was a bad mother...shut yo mouth.
Nah not me been playing RPG since the 1997 and I don't leave a single stone unturned, my first playthrough of Greed fall I got friendly with all companions and factions even romanced Siora. You are a legate an ambassador for the Congregation of Merchants, already is a giveaway that you are the neutral faction and tend to be more reasonable, steps ahead as a merchant connections is what helps your faction. Plus you get more content be doing all their quest and it pays off in the final battle.
who, apart from kurt who's moment is obvious, can betray you and when does it happen? I always prioritise companions and put all points into charisma so everyone loved me. I'm sure siora probably has a betrayal moment but idk when it would be...
I really do love this game. Warts and all
Is this game even worth the money? I saved up for it, still got the money but i have no idea if i should actually buy it. Im a huge fan of Elderscroolls, Souls-games and ELEX/Gothic 3
RootDen yes
I think so! I loved the game. Combat is a little meh though since there's only a handful or two of enemy types. That was my only real complaint about the game.
Do you like Dragon Age? This game is basically Dragon Age set in an early modern age world. Is not open world, but has large hubs to explore.
The plot is rather good, at least where I'm at the moment. Graphics are good if with some hiccup and woody animations, characters and companions are well developed BUT unfortunately I have the impression they join your party for no particular reason, so it's hard empathizing with them at the beginning (aside from Kurt, that's also the best written of the bunch). Character customization is also good and you can micromanage your party, and I find that aspect of the game oddly satisfying.
Combat and the overall ruleset of the game are mediocre at best; even at higher difficulties I found it rather easy, and sometimes you are hindered in movement by the rules in situations that don't make sense. For example you cannot jump from a ledge to the other if you don't have enought Athletics, but in reality that gap is not even a meter wide! The game has a habit of ruining my suspension of disbelief.
On the other hand I also consider Greedfall one of those games where plot and storytelling are hugely more important than gameplay. Still, it can be annoying at times.
Yes, my two biggest problem thing is the graphics and the cut and paste of faces and the governor mansions. I would at least like the companions to look a little more unique.
really interesting concept this could go quite far imagine assembling a team like the expendables for one to betray and become the baddie and become bestests with the others woah mind blown ..... think I've had too much coffee
I don't take companions for granted since Kreia and Bishop.
I did feel quite guilty that i kept Lydia purely as a pack horse...but then it was never going to be for her sparkling wit and stunning personality, was it? I tried to make it up to her by giving her the best/fanciest/priciest armour and weapons possible (she got the best heavy armour, i was in the light armour), but maybe i only did this because i was fed up of her dying and having to reload the game all the time? I never dumped her in favour of later house carls, but they seemed similarly lacking in personality, plus i was used to her by then. I fear i might be a terrible protagonist!
Knowing that they could double cross me as easily as i could to them (i wouldn't on purpose!) could be a really good addition to rpgs going forward, but jeez it's going to make them stressful!
Thanks Zoe! X
Being a packmule or tank/distraction is always their greatest talent though, so it'd be a shame if they weren't given the opportunity to really shine in these areas.. At least that's my excuse.
@@nightcatarts each playthrough of Skyrim i've done, Lydia has always been my complaining companion of choice....i've pinned my not-too-terrible a person hopes on my over-arching loyalty. i did tell her that if Bethesda had allowed me to, i would've married her, but they didn't so it's always Sylgja. Wife to earn money and share the profits, Lydia to carry all the stuff to sell....i'm ALL about those videogame $$$s!
@@DragonBotherer I've always used mods to allow you to recruit anyone as a follower, & generally get somebody from the mine & turn them into an assassin, or someone from the middle of nowhere & pretend they're a healing witch.
@@nightcatarts My 1st shot at Skyrim was on 360, but the pc playthrough i only ventured into the aesthetic mods - fixing the textures, trying to fix the viscosity of the water etc, but i reckon my next pc playthrough might be more adventurous with mods...if only to recruit Brynjolf, load him up with stuff, offer him some nicer outfits, marry him, beg Bethesda for some more diaglogue....just off the top of my head, not thought about it at all! ;)
i didn't realise you could do so much with the npcs though...that could just eclipse the gameplay! imagine the possibilities - an entire game full of assassins/healers/twunts with knee injuries!
Probably the only game where I would NOT suggest that this is possible/able to take your companions for granted. Simple cause your Talent points cant be maxed if you spread the equally and you need their friendship to get the extra mile and get that bonus you need for maxing them. Some characters are therefore more useful then others, cause their Talent bonus can be worn all the time as gear example cape - one attribute dedicated gear to Charisma only, compared to Chest Armor that can give you 3 different and you will often use both while rooming the world lockpick/vigor.
the Since is only needed occasionally when crafting/recycling/ some dialog/observation(super rare).
What I missed in this game, was not able to exclude companions. There need to be always 2 in your party. You cant control where they stay, how they fight, what priority target is. Its BAD looking from this perspective. I was surprised to see that the romance was actually just one companion in the room with me instead of always two.
The worst part is your companions always shouting at you drink a potion, if you use Magic. For real? F_U, who made you my tutor throughout the game. I tried to shut the silent within audio options, but nothing there. Who made this call. And how are you levels ahead of me, lower attributes that I can't adjust and have double the stats values then me? How is that possible?
Not to mention, starting choice locked class skill development and fixed starting dedication 'choices'. Ohhh Man. What I really liked was arena infinite exp farm. I hate to roam 100 times to go search for that box somewhere that I could not open when I first saw it. Never again. For that you need in-game map editing and comment adding.
My Dogmeat went to Sanctuary got stuff toys and a friend when i ran in the the random event dog you can get and cat friends once those where available.
You say that there are no spoilers but the animations on the video kind of ruin it themselves, luckily I have already done the story, but this may upset people who haven’t yet
I'm sorry I keep calling you Eeyore, Harrim... *sigh*
(Pathfinder Kingmaker companion, I've mentally dubbed him Eeyore, anyone who's played the game probably knows why
Yeah that nihilist
Wow. How many times can someone say the same thing over the course of 12 minutes? Goddamn.
It’s obviously the one you can’t romance
Fire Emblem Three Houses has an interesting "companion" mechanic too. Spoilers below...
You end up killing the students in other classes in battle. The first time I saw one in a battle I had a feeling of dread as I knew that character, had spent time chatting to them, bought them things they had lost, and then the little speech when they die. Oof.
In my next run through I'm going to get everyone in my class to prevent that happening again!
I am trying to play this game for weeks, but I really don’t like it that much 😭
The story starts off rather slow but really picks up later on. Just keep playing. It's worth it 👍
Dutch Dude-85 I’ll give it a try then!
The first city is dark and empty. In fact mostly it seamed lifeless to me, the city life did not really came to life like Witcher worlds. Not convincing and empty. The story was interesting though.
DonSaly I did not like the island either. Nothing can top the Witcher anyway ☺️
@@LisaMariavanHarmelen Played KOTOR or KOTOR 2 yet?
Do you really need to keep asking the same question over and over?
Look, I'll make it easy to understand;
You do your Companions personal quests and get their friendship up, they stick with you.
You don't do either of those, it's double-cross city.
Basically, you NEED to be a completionist with this game. Do all the side stuff as much as you can.
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Just say spoiler warning and talk freely 🤦🏽♂️
too bad you can't kill everything in game