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As an Italian learning English this kind of videos are very very much interesting, because some differences in pronunciation I mean if I didn't hear them from you I wouldn't even imagine of them 😅
I feel like we (by we I might mean I) might mispronounce niche more like "nitch". "Cache" is another one of those words, "cash" or "cash a". In a vain attempt to appear smarter than I am, I just try to avoid using these words.😁
It might not be a problem, but it is at least something that makes understanding harder. for example, I am a native speaker of English with little or very little exposure to US speech and I can have difficulty here on youtube with so many US voices.
Just to comment on Mia’s Australian accent, the reason her accent has a little American reflection is because she lived in the US for 5 years and as an voice actress, she’s required to use an American accent.
They seem to be very good teachers. Especially that word "Res-tau-rant". Christina understands very well why people learning English will pronounce the word of they break into syllable. She is definitely a good teacher and understands her students well
Yes, in America it's 3 syllables. Rest-uh-ront. In the UK it's 2... rest-ront. But the difference is very slight and really nobody would even hear the difference. There's a lot of words that follow the same pattern (US vs UK), where the UK shortens to one less syllable. Like anything that ends with "ary" for example.... "complimentary" in USA is "com-plih-ment-uh-ree". and in the UK it's "com-plih-men-tree" etc. (one less syllable)@@anndeecosita3586
As a French speaker, I always thought salmon was sal-mon. It's when I learnt that the word actually comes from French (of course) that it started to make sense. See, words with "al" turned into "au". In french, it went from "salmun" to "saumon", the same way "saltare" (to jump) became "sauter". Brazilian* Portuguese also has this softening of -al endings into -au EDIT : only BP seems to have this feature
@@module79l28 Well observed, Portuguese from Portugal pronounces the "l" differently from Brazilian Portuguese. However, when speaking Portuguese in general, without specifying it, it means that they are referring to the reference Portuguese in the world, that is, Brazilian, and not, a variant spoken in such a small country like Portugal (it's unfair, I know, but are how things work). It's like the reference English is American and not British (although England is much bigger than Portugal, and has much more influence, it's still not enough).
I can’t speak for Portuguese, but I believe the “mother country” will always have the reference. As for English as a foreign language, British English clearly has the upper hand in books, teaching methods etc.
@@jonnyborgesdev I don’t agree at all. Here in Europe, European Portuguese is the reference. Also the Portuguese spoken in Africa is much closer to European Portuguese than Brazilian Portuguese. Even within Brazilian Portuguese, there are accents and dialects (sotaques) that have many features from European Portuguese. Like already pointed out here above, the mother country of a language will always be of significance. Like Spanish of Spain (even though Mexico is much bigger) and English of the UK.
The biggest strength of English is that it appropriates words from other languages and treats them as its own (other languages do it as well, like Hindi). Rather than saying English has a lot of exceptions I would say that because English has taken so many words from so many different languages that there are a lot of rules when spelling words. If you are clever enough to be able to deduce what language a word is from then you can often figure out how it's said.
Salmon also reminds me of Almond, we say it as ahmond in Australia. But occasionally I've heard some other nationalites say All-mond, doesnt sound right to my ear. I've never heard anyone in Australia say it as proNOUNciation like Mia did. Maybe just where she grew up. I've only ever heard it said as proNUNciation.
@@jonlima9897 We have some regional differences but it's mostly in the vocabulary. There are some more notable differences like how South Australians say dAHnce as opposed to dance (d-ants). Otherwise we have cultivated (posher sounding, like Cate Blanchett), broad (what people think Aussies sound like, think Steve Irwin), General (most people speak like this, newsreaders and whatnot) and ethno-Australian accents such as Indigenous Australians, Asian Australians or Mediterranean "Wog" accents.
@@thevannmann the first australian movie ever to be premiere in the US movie theaters was "mad Max" but they had to dub It into American english, could you explain me why?
@Chris Davis well, brasilian novelas started to be broadcasted in Portugal way back in the 70's. In spite of some of them saying It was hard to pick some words and expressions they still manage to get It with not that much of struggle and dubbing to their accent was never really necessary. So Im asking about Australian-US case since english speaker countries are culturally way more close to each other than portuguese speaker ones, so Just asking...
"Pronounce" vs "pronunciation" is due to the same historical process that gives English the different vowels in "south" vs "southern" and "insane" vs "insanity", except our spelling doesn't reflect that (...of course >.
The other one in a similar vein is restaurateur. which is often mistakenly said as restaurantuer. there is even a con-trov-er-sy of how to say con-tro-ver-sy
2:22 An American once explained: imagine the sound of "ah" for "a" because it's very short. Now when you say "world" or "girl" or even "worth" or "Earth" you just shove a quick "a" in like "wor-a-ld" or "gir-a-l". I think native speakers even do this without realizing.
Good job on spelling "pronunciation". I forget to drop the "o" in the middle sometimes. Rolling an "r" into a "l" I'd think would make it tough for Spanish speakers to pronounce words like "world" Myself, I find it easier to roll r's in Bavarian than Spanish. It might be that the German words tend to have the r's in the front or back of the word, and not so much in the middle.
ProNOUNciation is not a word! It's pronunciation, no mater what accent you have. It was one thing hearing people on this channel regularly saying this word wrong... but this video is explicitly about how to pronounce words correctly in English. Come on people!!!
@@JacsonFreitas18 no, I’m not, I’m from Finland and my first language is Swedish. But I do use English quite a lot, and I also teach elementary level English. I guess the main reason is that I speak quite fast myself as well - in any language that I learn. So to me, it’s normal …
I majority of the time have heard Americans pronounce 'niche' as 'neech' rather than 'neesh'. I can't remember what the letter is called, but 'ancient' used to be spelled with an old English letter that has long since become defunct and the letters 'ci' were used as the substitute for the old English letter, but the pronunciations stayed the same. It's happened with quite a lot of English words, like words which use 'th' in the word, such as words like 'the' 'this' 'that' etc, would originally be spelled 'þe' 'þis' 'þat', all keeping þe same pronunciation.
Presentations 0:09 Do you have different accents? 00:18 What words people do wrong pronciation? 00:59 How to pronunce this words? World 2:22 Pronunciation 4:31 Restaurant 5:41 Salmon 7:16 Choir 7:58 Ancient 8:31 Niche 9:28 Mayonnaise 10:17 How it was this today? 11:18 What were the hardest words for you? For me, who am not a native English speaker, the most difficult words are Salmon and Choir.
I would like to point out that in the US a lot of Americans pronounce niche like "nitch". Or in other words they would pronounce it like it rhymes with rich or hitch. Not sure how common it is, but it is very common.
Dictionaries accept both as correct. Historically, "nitch" was the traditional pronunciation. "Neesh" is the Gallic pronunciation that has gain popularity,
I’m American and what pronunciation I use for this word depends on whether I’m using it as an adjective or a noun. Adjective = I say neesh Noun = I say nitch I think it should be pointed out that not everyone exclusively uses one pronunciation or the other.
I’m also American and I also pronounce Ts in words like button, kitten, and cotton. However, someone in the comments who isn’t American just told me they’ve never heard one of us speak this way so they highly doubt that I’m American. So apparently we are mythical unicorns 😂😂😂
Mia's pronunciation of 'world' isn't really Australian. We don't pronounce the 'r' at all. Some of her words have an American inflection. And no, we don't say 'pronOUNciation' unless we're saying it wrongly.
Yes, the general Australian accent is non-rhotic, so Rs aren't pronounced in the way that they are in American accents. The same is mainly true in the UK, although we do have some rhotic accents, particularly in the southwest and in parts of Scotland. The Australian accent was formed from various accents, but predominantly from the accent of South East England, which is non-rhotic.
People say "pronounciation" because they don't know how to spell and they confuse it with the word "pronounce." They assume pronunciation = pronounce + iation.
it's pretty brave to say that others have issues with Rs and Ls when English speakers cannot say MB together (see thumb, tomb), BT (see doubt), PT (see pterodactyl), PS (see psychosis). : D Not to mention "englishizing" the names of foreing people : D but I like this small thing when people say hwat/hwere etc, but I know it's a remnant from old english : )
Some "D" come off as "T". And when you land on a T, it breaks as "Ts". It simply is the phonetic (or physics) when the tongue or lips are smacking. Not to mention the quality of the microphone catching each sound and TH-cam compression makes a huge difference.
I want to learn how to speak with Australian accent 😍 In school we learned British and now I change between British and American depending on who I'm talking to 😊 //Sweden
In Australia there are subtle pronunciation between states. In Victoria we would say the nun in pronunciation. Of course Mia is from Queensland it's like another country there :-)
As a Queenslander, I say it with the ‘nun’, not ‘noun’. Is Mia from North Qld? Personally I find it grating when it’s pronounced with the ‘noun’ option 😂
About the "ghost T", some country use the silence T on "but" ???Ø Because i'm learning english now, but use the T on "but" like she said on "Important"
this was a really cool video!! but I do feel like in every English Speaking country I've been, there is always someone who does not understand me when I say the letter "C" vs "sea" or something like that. And when we're studding English, native speakers teachers most of the time will make such emphasis on pronunciation and grammar like, neither vs either and then I hear native speakers use them interchangeably without a care in the world. hehehe.
@@jonathanlange1339 that's what I would think, but I do hear it a lot in the US. They often use "me either" when I am sure they mean to say "me neither".
To me it sounds a bit like Ryan pronounces 'ancient' as 'anxient' or 'angchient'. You can hear the sound that replaces the t in 'water' right before the c, and the n becomes an ng. Really interesting.
It’s because there were borrowed from French, when “ls” were not longer pronounced but still written. Since then, the French spelling changed and these words became “saumon” (old: salmon), “amande” (old: alemande), “paume” (old: palme). As for calm, I have no idea, although some British dialects still pronounce it..
As an Aussie I have never said "pronounciation" except for humerical value. She was unsure when suggesting that Aussies say it that way and she was right to be. Maybe wherever she is from it's more common but not in my Aussie bubble.
I keep getting recommended videos from this channel, and let me say for a language-focused channel the subtitles are so consistently wrong! For instance, at 8:15 how couldn't the person understand they're saying "acquire" instead of "a choir"? They just said the word "choir" sounds like it has a Q, and they're comparing it to another word that's actually spelled with a Q...
Fun fact: We have two different spellings of ”restaurant” in Swedish and I believe both are correct: Restaurant Restaurang Both are pronounced the same way, with a ng-sound at the end, the same ng-sound as in English words like ”sing”. The emphasis is on the ”-rang” part of the word. We also have a similar problem like word vs world: ”Värld” (means ”world”) and ”värd” (”host”, but also ”worth”). The funny thing is that we pronounced both words exactly the same, since the L is silent in ”värld”.
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In German, we pronounce words as they are written. Therefore, I tend to pronounce English words as they are written. Especially with words that exist in German in exactly the same or similar way. Like mayonnaise, for example, in German the "O" is pronounced. - May-ooo-naise.
Exactly the same in Spanish. For us the only silent letter is the "h". Everything else, if it is written is for something. "salmón" is sal - món, why would you not pronounce the "l"? If it is there is for something, come on! 😅 I don't understand that from english (or french, by the way). They write a lot of letters and then they pronounce what they want...
Well, not exactly because of umlauts, for example (or at least this was my opinion when I used to learn the language). But well, German has easier basic pronunciation rules which are better than just trying to guess which one is correct, like in English.
The 'o' is pronounced in English as well, but it wouldn't be 'ooo' unless there were two o's. Because there is only one 'o' it is like "uh". May-uh-naise.
@@migteleco As English-speaking children, it was just normal to us that spoken and written English are two different things, and you have to learn both of them separately. One isn't a way of representing the other, it's not phonetic. (Think of individual words as like Chinese characters, you just learn them!) I think maybe it's only if you are used to a language with a strictly phonetic writing system that you would assume that all writing systems are like that. I am interested in how Spanish children learn to write? Do they just learn the sound of each letter aged four or five and then it's very trivial and they never have to think about writing ever again? In English, we learn spellings when we start school, and have lots of spelling tests and things. Even still when I went to secondary school (aged 11) there was still some learning of spelling and spelling tests going on then. And these are all children who have mastered *spoken* English, it's just that we're learning a new language, *written* English, that corresponds word-for-word with spoken English, but you still have to learn the individual words! I often think that adult language learners tend to learn the language in a very different way to native children. Children learn spoken English pretty much entirely, then only afterwards learn written English. Adult language learners tend to learn both speaking and writing together. In Spanish, maybe this isn't very important, but in English, you're basically trying to learn two languages at the same time, and this is very different to the way children do it!
I don't even hear the differences in some words.... But now I blame my English teachers for teaching us wrong (French Canadian here). We were told to prononce the L in salmon and for mayonnaise, like mayonnaiZee... Shamefull
Im not a native speaker but I feel as though ive heard english native speakers sometimes pronounce "niche" not with the sh sound but maybe closer to they way "Nietzsche" is pronounced in German without the "e" at the end or even a short version - something like "nitsch" . Could be some sort of crude americanism .
@@annehalecott Well, the title of the video uses British so I am just trying to be consistent within that context. Also, what about the Welsh? What do they do?
Oops yeah I’ve lived in the US for quite a few years, I think the accent may have rubbed off on me a little 😅 hope the Aussie still comes through though haha
“SALMON “ for some Spanish speaking countries we’re just trying to not say something similar to Semen which can be an inappropriate word to say to other Spanish speaker. Just clarifying that so English speakers can understand our struggle to keep the L.
My one wish is for all English speaking countries to bring back Adverbs! They’ve been replaced by Adjectives in so many cases, that I yell at the TV every time I hear it.
@@jwb52z9 All of their grammatical and spelling errors are annoying! In Australia, we call gerunds “present participles”. The first time I heard the word “gerund” was in a movie!
The "t" gloating in Southern England, coupled with the non-rhotic pronunciation, is rarely challenging for non-native speakers as it feels like they are swallowing up lots of consonants.
I think that also depends on where you are from. In NJ I say Res te RONT as you say. But I've heard people in the south say it with only two syllables.
I don't pronounce the ed in texted , I pronounce the word as if it's all one syllable instead of two( logically, I know it doesn't matter but idiosyncencratically and grammar wise to me, it sounds better as a one syllable word.
@@danielleporter1829 I say texted as two syllables. It feels more natural to me to say the ed with a word that ends with a t sound. But some people don’t really say the t at the end of text.
I count my blessing in my English learning, it just clicked after 2 years with zero English learning. Chinese on the other hand... I pity those who learn it later in their life. There are sounds with more than 10 possible characters, and the only way to decipher which character it is by listening to the sentence to grasp the context. Even then, you could be wrong.
@princess daya to be honest, I've rarely heard anyone say the word niche other than to sound pretentious. There's other words in English that work better than niche.
7:15 This is such an arrogant attitude. English is one of the most derivative languages in the world. Many words are borrowed from Arabic, French, Latin, German, Greek, Hebrew, Gaelic, Spanish, etc. Case in point: the root word of "salmon" comes from the Latin word "salmo." The English dropped the "l" in its pronunciation despite the spelling keeping the letter. Thus, it is confusing for a lot of non-native English speakers. So those who say the "l" in salmon, should not be met with such harsh judgement.
Im Aussie and have never said pronounciation. Some people do. Its spelled pronunciation. So pronounciation is is incorrect. ALWAYS pronunciation. ALWAYS. Also never say mayo. Nor ddoes anyone I know. Probs because I wont go along with Americanisation of the language. Also cos Mayonaise isnt my fave thing.
As far as I know, "pronounciation" is a mashup ("crasis" or "portmanteau") of the (etymologically very closely related) words "pronounce" and "pronunciation", that has been independently invented many times in many places throughout the English-speaking world. The two-syllable and three-syllable pronunciations of "restaurant" co-exist side-by-side in many dialects or accents of English. The same speaker may even use them completely interchangeably. However, the middle syllable, when it exists, is generally de-emphasized. Mayonnaise is similar but with significantly more geographic bias (e.g., in the Midwest, the two-syllable pronunciation is dominant; in England, the three-syllable version is more common; but it's still true that native speakers routinely treat the two pronunciations as interchangeable). The L in salmon is just silent, period. I am not aware of any dialect of English that pronounces this letter in this word. I've seen people pronounce the L when they see salmon in print for the first time, but then they don't know what the word means. ("What's sall-monn?" "It's salmon. The L is silent." "Oh. Why is it spelled funny?" "Because etymology.") "Niche" rhymes with "which", and anybody who says otherwise is either a native French speaker, or going out of their way to be gratuitously pretentious. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. (I'm from the Midwest, and didn't get internet access until I was in college, and it was mostly text back then; TH-cam did not exist yet. So I never heard the "neesh" pronunciation until I was in my late twenties.)
About "niche", I think for most Americans and Canadians, it rhymes with "which" when it's a noun (ex. "I think he's really found his niche."), whereas when it's an adjective, it rhymes with "sheesh" (ex. "Curling is a very niche sport."). In the UK, on the other hand, it rhymes with "sheesh" in both cases.
I have never ever heard of people saying 'niche' so that it rhymes with 'which', didn't know that was a thing tbh, probably just an American thing (being from north England)
You should get a Scottish speaker sometime. ‘British’ isn’t an accent and most of them seem to be English. Scottish, Irish and Welsh would be a fun twist. I love the videos, however, so that’s not intended to be a criticism 🤎
@0:34 wonder why they looked so shocked when hearing christina not pronouncing the T for the word button. Literally I’ve never heard a native say “ buTTon”😅😅
I’m a native speaker. Christina doesn’t pronounce T at all in these kinds of words. She is a glottal stop type of speaker where she omits it completely. A lot of English speakers including Americans like myself pronounce the second T if it’s a double T. It sounds like Bu -ton . Same as with kitten, cotton and latter. If you have never heard it, it’s probably due to your social circles.
@@anndeecosita3586 really? You actually say kiTTen? For me kitten would be ki__en, but latter is laDer. I highly doubt you’re American haha( sorry about that) I’m just too confident for this! So butter would be buDer and letter would be leDer. When it comes to glottal stop, examples of word would be: cotton, co__on, written, wri__en, Manhattan, Manha__an and curtain, cur_ain! Been living in the US for a while and studying American english! I just love it so much! I mean I can’t judge you American! Afterall this is your language!
@@anndeecosita3586 also button is very common example of native speakers omitting the TT. So I’m not even saying the different accents in the UK when it comes to the people coming from the north omitting the T like bo__le of wa_er. It’s basically everyone from Australia, the US, ireland, the UK, to New Zealand they would not pronounce the T. Probably because it’s just easier! However, in the US, i notice that if you hear some of the black people pronouncing it, they are probably from Jamaica. I notice that Jamaican english sometimes they do pronounce the T but sometimes they just don’t… very confusing!
Besides “water”, “beach” and “world”, all these words come from French; yet they’ve been borrowed centuries ago, so the pronunciation is completely different/butchered compared to French. French is hard to pronounce and even it’s hybrid heir can’t get around it. Haha
It was fun hearing the different pronunciations with Mia and Ryan! Hope you guys enjoyed the video! -Christina🇺🇸
You deserve all the positive feedback because your personality is striking me as well mannered with such positive expressions. This right here is very attractive, I love it and would like to see more content with you in it. Please keep up the good work and spread knowledge and positive attitudes!
As an Italian learning English this kind of videos are very very much interesting, because some differences in pronunciation I mean if I didn't hear them from you I wouldn't even imagine of them 😅
You are the best, Christina ❤❤
I like your Voice ;-)
I feel like we (by we I might mean I) might mispronounce niche more like "nitch". "Cache" is another one of those words, "cash" or "cash a". In a vain attempt to appear smarter than I am, I just try to avoid using these words.😁
The problem is not getting the pronunciations wrong , it 's knowing that the city / state or country has an accent / words that you may not have.
Because not every American drops their t’s. Also. World. Whorled. Whirled.
@@laZOETje We don’t all do that but some of these alleged ESL teachers on TH-cam are pushing this narrative and some people are taking it as gospel.
It might not be a problem, but it is at least something that makes understanding harder. for example, I am a native speaker of English with little or very little exposure to US speech and I can have difficulty here on youtube with so many US voices.
Just to comment on Mia’s Australian accent, the reason her accent has a little American reflection is because she lived in the US for 5 years and as an voice actress, she’s required to use an American accent.
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They seem to be very good teachers. Especially that word "Res-tau-rant". Christina understands very well why people learning English will pronounce the word of they break into syllable. She is definitely a good teacher and understands her students well
There are native speakers who pronounce it as three syllables. I do. There are different accents.
Yes, in America it's 3 syllables. Rest-uh-ront. In the UK it's 2... rest-ront. But the difference is very slight and really nobody would even hear the difference. There's a lot of words that follow the same pattern (US vs UK), where the UK shortens to one less syllable. Like anything that ends with "ary" for example.... "complimentary" in USA is "com-plih-ment-uh-ree". and in the UK it's "com-plih-men-tree" etc. (one less syllable)@@anndeecosita3586
As a French speaker, I always thought salmon was sal-mon. It's when I learnt that the word actually comes from French (of course) that it started to make sense. See, words with "al" turned into "au". In french, it went from "salmun" to "saumon", the same way "saltare" (to jump) became "sauter".
Brazilian* Portuguese also has this softening of -al endings into -au
EDIT : only BP seems to have this feature
That's exclusive to Brazilian Portuguese, here in Portugal the "al" at the end of every word is always pronounced as "al".
@@module79l28 Well observed, Portuguese from Portugal pronounces the "l" differently from Brazilian Portuguese. However, when speaking Portuguese in general, without specifying it, it means that they are referring to the reference Portuguese in the world, that is, Brazilian, and not, a variant spoken in such a small country like Portugal (it's unfair, I know, but are how things work).
It's like the reference English is American and not British (although England is much bigger than Portugal, and has much more influence, it's still not enough).
I can’t speak for Portuguese, but I believe the “mother country” will always have the reference. As for English as a foreign language, British English clearly has the upper hand in books, teaching methods etc.
@@jonnyborgesdev I don’t agree at all. Here in Europe, European Portuguese is the reference. Also the Portuguese spoken in Africa is much closer to European Portuguese than Brazilian Portuguese. Even within Brazilian Portuguese, there are accents and dialects (sotaques) that have many features from European Portuguese. Like already pointed out here above, the mother country of a language will always be of significance. Like Spanish of Spain (even though Mexico is much bigger) and English of the UK.
@@TheElevenBravo20 Colonization. :P
10:15 I've heard a variety of people (American, UK, Aus) say "niche" it as "nitch"
The biggest strength of English is that it appropriates words from other languages and treats them as its own (other languages do it as well, like Hindi). Rather than saying English has a lot of exceptions I would say that because English has taken so many words from so many different languages that there are a lot of rules when spelling words. If you are clever enough to be able to deduce what language a word is from then you can often figure out how it's said.
Salmon also reminds me of Almond, we say it as ahmond in Australia. But occasionally I've heard some other nationalites say All-mond, doesnt sound right to my ear.
I've never heard anyone in Australia say it as proNOUNciation like Mia did. Maybe just where she grew up. I've only ever heard it said as proNUNciation.
How many accents you guys have in Australia?
Pronounciation is a common mispronunciation you would more likely find amongst foreign English learners.
@@jonlima9897 We have some regional differences but it's mostly in the vocabulary. There are some more notable differences like how South Australians say dAHnce as opposed to dance (d-ants). Otherwise we have cultivated (posher sounding, like Cate Blanchett), broad (what people think Aussies sound like, think Steve Irwin), General (most people speak like this, newsreaders and whatnot) and ethno-Australian accents such as Indigenous Australians, Asian Australians or Mediterranean "Wog" accents.
@@thevannmann the first australian movie ever to be premiere in the US movie theaters was "mad Max" but they had to dub It into American english, could you explain me why?
@Chris Davis well, brasilian novelas started to be broadcasted in Portugal way back in the 70's. In spite of some of them saying It was hard to pick some words and expressions they still manage to get It with not that much of struggle and dubbing to their accent was never really necessary. So Im asking about Australian-US case since english speaker countries are culturally way more close to each other than portuguese speaker ones, so Just asking...
"Pronounce" vs "pronunciation" is due to the same historical process that gives English the different vowels in "south" vs "southern" and "insane" vs "insanity", except our spelling doesn't reflect that (...of course >.
The other one in a similar vein is restaurateur. which is often mistakenly said as restaurantuer. there is even a con-trov-er-sy of how to say con-tro-ver-sy
2:22 An American once explained: imagine the sound of "ah" for "a" because it's very short. Now when you say "world" or "girl" or even "worth" or "Earth" you just shove a quick "a" in like "wor-a-ld" or "gir-a-l". I think native speakers even do this without realizing.
I think certain accents do this.
Good job on spelling "pronunciation". I forget to drop the "o" in the middle sometimes.
Rolling an "r" into a "l" I'd think would make it tough for Spanish speakers to pronounce words like "world" Myself, I find it easier to roll r's in Bavarian than Spanish. It might be that the German words tend to have the r's in the front or back of the word, and not so much in the middle.
ProNOUNciation is not a word! It's pronunciation, no mater what accent you have.
It was one thing hearing people on this channel regularly saying this word wrong... but this video is explicitly about how to pronounce words correctly in English. Come on people!!!
@Chris DavisYes, because missing a t while typing fast in a comment is the same thing.
I think Americans sometimes use pronounciation.
What a relief to hear a British guy with such a coherent British accent. Very restful. 😊
He speak so fast, that's kinda annoying
@@JacsonFreitas18 oh, I didn’t feel he spoke fast at all … normal speed.
@@davidkasquare maybe that's because you're native?
@@JacsonFreitas18 no, I’m not, I’m from Finland and my first language is Swedish. But I do use English quite a lot, and I also teach elementary level English. I guess the main reason is that I speak quite fast myself as well - in any language that I learn. So to me, it’s normal …
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I majority of the time have heard Americans pronounce 'niche' as 'neech' rather than 'neesh'.
I can't remember what the letter is called, but 'ancient' used to be spelled with an old English letter that has long since become defunct and the letters 'ci' were used as the substitute for the old English letter, but the pronunciations stayed the same. It's happened with quite a lot of English words, like words which use 'th' in the word, such as words like 'the' 'this' 'that' etc, would originally be spelled 'þe' 'þis' 'þat', all keeping þe same pronunciation.
yeah I was just going to comment this, every American I have heard say niche they say 'nitch' rather than 'neesh' and it really bugs me.
What region is this? I mostly hear neesh or nitch.
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Presentations 0:09
Do you have different accents? 00:18
What words people do wrong pronciation? 00:59
How to pronunce this words?
World 2:22
Pronunciation 4:31
Restaurant 5:41
Salmon 7:16
Choir 7:58
Ancient 8:31
Niche 9:28
Mayonnaise 10:17
How it was this today? 11:18
What were the hardest words for you? For me, who am not a native English speaker, the most difficult words are Salmon and Choir.
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I would like to point out that in the US a lot of Americans pronounce niche like "nitch". Or in other words they would pronounce it like it rhymes with rich or hitch. Not sure how common it is, but it is very common.
Yes!
Yep. I don't think I knew that it was supposed to be pronounced the way they said it. I know I've never said it that way 🤐
Dictionaries accept both as correct. Historically, "nitch" was the traditional pronunciation. "Neesh" is the Gallic pronunciation that has gain popularity,
I’m American and what pronunciation I use for this word depends on whether I’m using it as an adjective or a noun.
Adjective = I say neesh
Noun = I say nitch
I think it should be pointed out that not everyone exclusively uses one pronunciation or the other.
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"Vegetables" and "jewelry" also are vey common the mispronoucing
How do you pronounce jewelry? The same as jewellery?
I would say joolri
@@MrJoeshipley I was about to point out that there are also spelling differences but you beat me to it! 😃
I’m American and I pronounce both ts in button.
Something I hear on the news is to pronounce the second b in bombing when it’s supposed to be silent.
I’m also American and I also pronounce Ts in words like button, kitten, and cotton. However, someone in the comments who isn’t American just told me they’ve never heard one of us speak this way so they highly doubt that I’m American. So apparently we are mythical unicorns 😂😂😂
Mia's pronunciation of 'world' isn't really Australian. We don't pronounce the 'r' at all. Some of her words have an American inflection. And no, we don't say 'pronOUNciation' unless we're saying it wrongly.
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Yes, the general Australian accent is non-rhotic, so Rs aren't pronounced in the way that they are in American accents. The same is mainly true in the UK, although we do have some rhotic accents, particularly in the southwest and in parts of Scotland. The Australian accent was formed from various accents, but predominantly from the accent of South East England, which is non-rhotic.
These 3 are so chill lmao
I've never heard an Australian say pronunciation! Surely it would be someting like "Yu're bonzer at pronie!"
honestly, it's only if you don't know how to say it properly which is REALLY ironic.
People say "pronounciation" because they don't know how to spell and they confuse it with the word "pronounce." They assume pronunciation = pronounce + iation.
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5:44 Mia sounded straight American
nope
11:19 the little laugh is so cute. I can't
I really love how Mia speaks in her accent. It's adorable 😍😍😍
She has amazing hips , you can see them in older videos. 😃
Aww thank you so much! Appreciate it 🥰
@@xxmimiaxx I'm shallow, I think you are gorgeous. 😃
@@Haywood-Jablomie aw thank you so much! 😊
5:23 Australians DO NOT say "pronouce-iation". Mia has no idea. The word is "pronunciation" and that's exactly what Australians pronounce.
it's pretty brave to say that others have issues with Rs and Ls when English speakers cannot say MB together (see thumb, tomb), BT (see doubt), PT (see pterodactyl), PS (see psychosis).
: D
Not to mention "englishizing" the names of foreing people : D
but I like this small thing when people say hwat/hwere etc, but I know it's a remnant from old english : )
In Scotland we clearly distinguish between Which and Witch, Why and Wye, What and Watt, Where and Ware , Whales and Wales.
There was the bumper sticker-Visualize whirled peas.
Why does the American girl add “s”-sounds where there are none? For example 1:41 “all arounds me”
I'm American, it sounds like she's just pronouncing the d sound, which I would also do.
It’s actually the D sound, not a s
@@MundaneParticle American do you think cheistina said “ would said” @10:48 or just me?
@10:46
Some "D" come off as "T". And when you land on a T, it breaks as "Ts". It simply is the phonetic (or physics) when the tongue or lips are smacking. Not to mention the quality of the microphone catching each sound and TH-cam compression makes a huge difference.
I want to learn how to speak with Australian accent 😍
In school we learned British and now I change between British and American depending on who I'm talking to 😊 //Sweden
Australian and British are the same
@@jonlima9897 No, I think it's a big difference.
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I have a big problem with the word _Mountain!_ it's like maun-en when I hear it from english speakers... It confuses me a lot!
It depends on their accent. Not all English speakers do this.
In Australia there are subtle pronunciation between states. In Victoria we would say the nun in pronunciation. Of course Mia is from Queensland it's like another country there :-)
As a Queenslander, I say it with the ‘nun’, not ‘noun’. Is Mia from North Qld? Personally I find it grating when it’s pronounced with the ‘noun’ option 😂
Mia is from Melbourne
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Very interesting, thank you!
Can someone tell me what is niche?
fun fact: whirled and world are homophones.
Definitely not in Scotland !
The issue with salmon is that when spoken quickly, it ends up sounding like saemen, which is too close to other stuff in most romance languages
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About the "ghost T", some country use the silence T on "but" ???Ø
Because i'm learning english now, but use the T on "but" like she said on "Important"
this was a really cool video!! but I do feel like in every English Speaking country I've been, there is always someone who does not understand me when I say the letter "C" vs "sea" or something like that. And when we're studding English, native speakers teachers most of the time will make such emphasis on pronunciation and grammar like, neither vs either and then I hear native speakers use them interchangeably without a care in the world. hehehe.
How can you use neither and either interchangeably? This would change the meaning.
@@jonathanlange1339 that's what I would think, but I do hear it a lot in the US. They often use "me either" when I am sure they mean to say "me neither".
To me it sounds a bit like Ryan pronounces 'ancient' as 'anxient' or 'angchient'. You can hear the sound that replaces the t in 'water' right before the c, and the n becomes an ng. Really interesting.
Actually the salmon it has some rule where ' lm ' will come we won't pronounce the ' l '. For eg -Calm , Almond ,Palm .
It’s because there were borrowed from French, when “ls” were not longer pronounced but still written. Since then, the French spelling changed and these words became “saumon” (old: salmon), “amande” (old: alemande), “paume” (old: palme). As for calm, I have no idea, although some British dialects still pronounce it..
@@daylonmurray8068 Oh ! Thanks for the information .
These videos are really very usefull, please keep doing.
As an Aussie I have never said "pronounciation" except for humerical value. She was unsure when suggesting that Aussies say it that way and she was right to be. Maybe wherever she is from it's more common but not in my Aussie bubble.
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I keep getting recommended videos from this channel, and let me say for a language-focused channel the subtitles are so consistently wrong! For instance, at 8:15 how couldn't the person understand they're saying "acquire" instead of "a choir"? They just said the word "choir" sounds like it has a Q, and they're comparing it to another word that's actually spelled with a Q...
I've been assuming the subtitles are automatically generated, tbh.
I think a Korean is behind writing the subtitles, they're based in Korea after all :)
I love listening to Ryan even I didn’t get any word 🤣
Fun fact:
We have two different spellings of ”restaurant” in Swedish and I believe both are correct:
Restaurant
Restaurang
Both are pronounced the same way, with a ng-sound at the end, the same ng-sound as in English words like ”sing”. The emphasis is on the ”-rang” part of the word.
We also have a similar problem like word vs world:
”Värld” (means ”world”) and ”värd” (”host”, but also ”worth”). The funny thing is that we pronounced both words exactly the same, since the L is silent in ”värld”.
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@@xohyuu Most (all?) languages have a lot of problems.
@@johnnyrosenberg9522are right^^; i said about Germanisation of 🇫🇷·🇫🇷🇦 words^^; This takes place, for each pronunciation is different^^; | Cầu nguyện cho Үкраїна và hòa bình.
In German, we pronounce words as they are written. Therefore, I tend to pronounce English words as they are written. Especially with words that exist in German in exactly the same or similar way. Like mayonnaise, for example, in German the "O" is pronounced. - May-ooo-naise.
Exactly the same in Spanish.
For us the only silent letter is the "h". Everything else, if it is written is for something. "salmón" is sal - món, why would you not pronounce the "l"? If it is there is for something, come on! 😅
I don't understand that from english (or french, by the way). They write a lot of letters and then they pronounce what they want...
Well, not exactly because of umlauts, for example (or at least this was my opinion when I used to learn the language). But well, German has easier basic pronunciation rules which are better than just trying to guess which one is correct, like in English.
@@migteleco Well, u might be silent as well, but thanks to diéresis in our case.
The 'o' is pronounced in English as well, but it wouldn't be 'ooo' unless there were two o's. Because there is only one 'o' it is like "uh". May-uh-naise.
@@migteleco As English-speaking children, it was just normal to us that spoken and written English are two different things, and you have to learn both of them separately. One isn't a way of representing the other, it's not phonetic. (Think of individual words as like Chinese characters, you just learn them!) I think maybe it's only if you are used to a language with a strictly phonetic writing system that you would assume that all writing systems are like that.
I am interested in how Spanish children learn to write? Do they just learn the sound of each letter aged four or five and then it's very trivial and they never have to think about writing ever again? In English, we learn spellings when we start school, and have lots of spelling tests and things. Even still when I went to secondary school (aged 11) there was still some learning of spelling and spelling tests going on then. And these are all children who have mastered *spoken* English, it's just that we're learning a new language, *written* English, that corresponds word-for-word with spoken English, but you still have to learn the individual words!
I often think that adult language learners tend to learn the language in a very different way to native children. Children learn spoken English pretty much entirely, then only afterwards learn written English. Adult language learners tend to learn both speaking and writing together. In Spanish, maybe this isn't very important, but in English, you're basically trying to learn two languages at the same time, and this is very different to the way children do it!
I am so happy to see Christina again. She is so cute
'Englished' I love Mia's new invented word 😂! I'll start using that!
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I don't even hear the differences in some words.... But now I blame my English teachers for teaching us wrong (French Canadian here). We were told to prononce the L in salmon and for mayonnaise, like mayonnaiZee... Shamefull
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You would think they’d compare words like -
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Im not a native speaker but I feel as though ive heard english native speakers sometimes pronounce "niche" not with the sh sound but maybe closer to they way "Nietzsche" is pronounced in German without the "e" at the end or even a short version - something like "nitsch" . Could be some sort of crude americanism .
"Eligible" - I've heard so many people mispronounce it as "illegible", even people with near-native skills otherwise
1:56 Just love Christina's mannerisms 😍 Priceless !!
😂❤
It's interesting to me that I hear Mia sometimes pronounce her r's like an American and sometimes omitting them like the British.
@@annehalecott Well, the title of the video uses British so I am just trying to be consistent within that context. Also, what about the Welsh? What do they do?
I noticed her 'r' was much harder than I'm used to hearing from her with accent.
Oops yeah I’ve lived in the US for quite a few years, I think the accent may have rubbed off on me a little 😅 hope the Aussie still comes through though haha
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after watched this video, I have started talking in 3 English US/UK/AUSTRALIAN 😂
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I think with the word "Salmon" the L lengthens and slightly softens the A sound.
1:04 "Other countries" aka only east asian countries...
Niche isn't just /nich/? /neesh/ is definitely heard as well.
“SALMON “ for some Spanish speaking countries we’re just trying to not say something similar to Semen which can be an inappropriate word to say to other Spanish speaker. Just clarifying that so English speakers can understand our struggle to keep the L.
The word seamen is pronounced just like semen so just say that is what you meant. 😂
@@anndeecosita3586 I didn’t do that because there’s always someone that says that’s not the case for everyone… lol
Almost all of my friends pronounce "niche" more like "nitch" instead of "neesh", and it drives me crazy!
I was going to bring that up in a comment. It is maddening!
My one wish is for all English speaking countries to bring back Adverbs! They’ve been replaced by Adjectives in so many cases, that I yell at the TV every time I hear it.
American English, over the last several years, has started turning adjectives into gerunds, "addictive" becomes "addicting". It's annoying.
@@jwb52z9 All of their grammatical and spelling errors are annoying! In Australia, we call gerunds “present participles”. The first time I heard the word “gerund” was in a movie!
Here I was waiting to hear Aluminium (Aluminum for all you Americans out there). Pronounced so differently everywhere!
But what about world and whirled?
The "t" gloating in Southern England, coupled with the non-rhotic pronunciation, is rarely challenging for non-native speakers as it feels like they are swallowing up lots of consonants.
It’s ANGLICIZED, not “Englishiced” 😂
Nah, "Englished" is more appropriate in this case. ;P
I'm Presbyterian, not Anglican. (That's a joke, tbc.)
I am just to English accents ,because that's where I live in England.
The middle syllable in restaurant is there, but vestigial. We don't say "res-stront" but rather RES teRONT.
I think that also depends on where you are from. In NJ I say Res te RONT as you say. But I've heard people in the south say it with only two syllables.
Same. I pronounce restaurant as three syllables.
I will go with the colonel. Completely different from what it looks like.
Words for future video. Debut & debuted, many get these wrong. Texted or Text, I would never used texted, “I text him last night”
Another idea. Crisps. Many struggle with the sps.
I don't pronounce the ed in texted , I pronounce the word as if it's all one syllable instead of two( logically, I know it doesn't matter but idiosyncencratically and grammar wise to me, it sounds better as a one syllable word.
I use texted for past tense. Texted is grammatically correct for past but how people pronounce it may differ. The t is silent in debut.
@@danielleporter1829 I say texted as two syllables. It feels more natural to me to say the ed with a word that ends with a t sound. But some people don’t really say the t at the end of text.
I count my blessing in my English learning, it just clicked after 2 years with zero English learning.
Chinese on the other hand... I pity those who learn it later in their life. There are sounds with more than 10 possible characters, and the only way to decipher which character it is by listening to the sentence to grasp the context. Even then, you could be wrong.
The original and correct pronunciation of salmon is with the l no matter how it sounds to you. 😂
for me as a belgian french native speaker the 2 differents prononciations of beach and bitch is a difficult one!
I love Christina most, by appearance hh
In Arabic moving from r 2 l is easy
In spanish is "Mayonesa", 4 syllables ("ne" is the tonic one): Ma-yo-ne-sa
Dear world friends,
We need more of Christina and Lauren duo. They're our favourite and just watch your channel because of them. Miss their duo a lot❤
this is literally the spanish pronunciation 7:31 - 7:33
Does Christina teach ESL to Koreans?
It's nitch, rhymes with ditch. Lol I'm American but that's how my 4th grade science book said to pronounce niche.
most americans say neesh
@princess daya to be honest, I've rarely heard anyone say the word niche other than to sound pretentious. There's other words in English that work better than niche.
There is no "queue", I literally didn't trust google translate and had to watch multiple videos to confirm it is said "Q"
All these words come from french, except "world".
these people ignore silent letters and contemplate it more than it should be
7:15 This is such an arrogant attitude. English is one of the most derivative languages in the world. Many words are borrowed from Arabic, French, Latin, German, Greek, Hebrew, Gaelic, Spanish, etc. Case in point: the root word of "salmon" comes from the Latin word "salmo." The English dropped the "l" in its pronunciation despite the spelling keeping the letter. Thus, it is confusing for a lot of non-native English speakers. So those who say the "l" in salmon, should not be met with such harsh judgement.
Yes, we definitely pronounce stuff differently
I failed with the word "Niche" 😅
Im Aussie and have never said pronounciation. Some people do. Its spelled pronunciation. So pronounciation is is incorrect. ALWAYS pronunciation. ALWAYS. Also never say mayo. Nor ddoes anyone I know. Probs because I wont go along with Americanisation of the language. Also cos Mayonaise isnt my fave thing.
As far as I know, "pronounciation" is a mashup ("crasis" or "portmanteau") of the (etymologically very closely related) words "pronounce" and "pronunciation", that has been independently invented many times in many places throughout the English-speaking world.
The two-syllable and three-syllable pronunciations of "restaurant" co-exist side-by-side in many dialects or accents of English. The same speaker may even use them completely interchangeably. However, the middle syllable, when it exists, is generally de-emphasized. Mayonnaise is similar but with significantly more geographic bias (e.g., in the Midwest, the two-syllable pronunciation is dominant; in England, the three-syllable version is more common; but it's still true that native speakers routinely treat the two pronunciations as interchangeable).
The L in salmon is just silent, period. I am not aware of any dialect of English that pronounces this letter in this word. I've seen people pronounce the L when they see salmon in print for the first time, but then they don't know what the word means. ("What's sall-monn?" "It's salmon. The L is silent." "Oh. Why is it spelled funny?" "Because etymology.")
"Niche" rhymes with "which", and anybody who says otherwise is either a native French speaker, or going out of their way to be gratuitously pretentious. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. (I'm from the Midwest, and didn't get internet access until I was in college, and it was mostly text back then; TH-cam did not exist yet. So I never heard the "neesh" pronunciation until I was in my late twenties.)
About "niche", I think for most Americans and Canadians, it rhymes with "which" when it's a noun (ex. "I think he's really found his niche."), whereas when it's an adjective, it rhymes with "sheesh" (ex. "Curling is a very niche sport."). In the UK, on the other hand, it rhymes with "sheesh" in both cases.
I have never ever heard of people saying 'niche' so that it rhymes with 'which', didn't know that was a thing tbh, probably just an American thing (being from north England)
@@josephweaver7460 It is a North American thing.
More videos with kristina, she is just perfect!! 🥰
My husband says the “L” lol
Since when restaurant turned into "rest run"
Who thinks english doesnt have pronunciation rules???? 😅
Native English people struggling to present their language as difficult :D
You should get a Scottish speaker sometime. ‘British’ isn’t an accent and most of them seem to be English. Scottish, Irish and Welsh would be a fun twist. I love the videos, however, so that’s not intended to be a criticism 🤎
Word to your mother !
if you don't want people to pronounce an L, don't write it down.
@0:34 wonder why they looked so shocked when hearing christina not pronouncing the T for the word button. Literally I’ve never heard a native say “ buTTon”😅😅
I’m a native speaker. Christina doesn’t pronounce T at all in these kinds of words. She is a glottal stop type of speaker where she omits it completely. A lot of English speakers including Americans like myself pronounce the second T if it’s a double T. It sounds like Bu -ton . Same as with kitten, cotton and latter. If you have never heard it, it’s probably due to your social circles.
@@anndeecosita3586 really? You actually say kiTTen? For me kitten would be ki__en, but latter is laDer. I highly doubt you’re American haha( sorry about that) I’m just too confident for this! So butter would be buDer and letter would be leDer. When it comes to glottal stop, examples of word would be: cotton, co__on, written, wri__en, Manhattan, Manha__an and curtain, cur_ain!
Been living in the US for a while and studying American english! I just love it so much!
I mean I can’t judge you American! Afterall this is your language!
@@anndeecosita3586 also button is very common example of native speakers omitting the TT. So I’m not even saying the different accents in the UK when it comes to the people coming from the north omitting the T like bo__le of wa_er. It’s basically everyone from Australia, the US, ireland, the UK, to New Zealand they would not pronounce the T. Probably because it’s just easier! However, in the US, i notice that if you hear some of the black people pronouncing it, they are probably from Jamaica. I notice that Jamaican english sometimes they do pronounce the T but sometimes they just don’t… very confusing!
@@Simonbacon023 😅 you’re funny 😂😂😂
@@raquelfigueroa5539 ?
Aside from the word "world", all of these words come into English via French, so I blame the French for all the problems. lol just kidding!
People from oriental countries have issues with R and L.
There is no L in the Korean alphabet.
Besides “water”, “beach” and “world”, all these words come from French; yet they’ve been borrowed centuries ago, so the pronunciation is completely different/butchered compared to French. French is hard to pronounce and even it’s hybrid heir can’t get around it. Haha
Australian English unlike all other English. 🙊