So many heroes are just broken right now and you can't play any hero you like. You have to play those specific characters or you are going to have a hard time
I really like venture as a character and their playstyle is fun. But I feel like I’m not doing anything in fights as they keep nerfing their damage. What you say is the reason I don’t play this game, I feel like I can’t play who I like anymore without feeling useless
Only a handful off heroes are broken and they dictate what you are allowed to play . Right now its basicly counter swap the enemy tank as hard as you can or he will take over the game . So supports are forced to perma heal bot the tank haveing to play high out out healers or 1 botton stay alife abilitys . Befor they buffed tank to the extream it was 99% healers controling the meta
@@BigPro1123 Venture only worked becouse of her 1 shot combot but they removed that so now you cant kill anything fast enoth befor you are stranded in no were waiting to get picked off .
Story mode is just pve with extra steps I mean instead of one group of characters doing the same mission you have each character with their own custom mission.
I think we have different lobbies because counterswapping happens no matter what game mode I'm in. At least quicjplay for me sometimes have people say quirky stuff in chat like "go easy on me I'm drunk" or "I dientify as a Baptiste main, walk into my arrows"
@@flitter5400 playing Asia server, especially Korea Incheon server, most of the high rank games are rather simple or difficult, it causes huge mental impact against players. If I call out for my team, korean player would try to call out in English as well, because they wanted to win as well. Toxicity mostly come from selfish diamond & plat players, they considered themselves as skillful, I am the best players in the world... so are master and above master players joke for them? yes lol
@@mariustan9275 in asia server, people trying so hard to win a quickplay game, flaming enemy team with ez ggs noob... I end up playing Na server, people there are chilling, making friends by using text and voicechat, huge difference against Asia matches
Honestly, playing Symmetra and Sombra, I had absolutely no problem playing against double shield and Bastian. Only metas I had problems with in OW1 was Pharmercy, which.....still exists today. 🤷♂
overwatch was the first FPS game i’ve ever played so it’ll always have a special place in my heart. I stopped playing ow in late 2018 and recently picked it up again summer 2023 and the game just doesn’t scratch that same itch it did. i remember seeing that the reason they went with 5v5 was because they wanted a faster pace game but games now feel irritating and un-winnable within the first 2 minutes. comp isn’t fun for me bc i don’t like mirror matches and forced to play the same 3 heroes, quick play is full of throwers and counter swaps, the battle pass isnt that inticing, the game has lost so much appeal. the most annoying thing is that it’s not hard to fix the game. going back to 6v6 with reduced health, a designated shield and brawler tank, re-working old 2CP maps or converting them into push/flashpoint maps would bring back players. as much as i love playing this game i don’t see myself playing that much longer.
I don't really enjoy it anymore either. I only play QP with friends often and even that became tiresome with all the counterswaps and toxic mindset of players. Honestly, I think the balance team is delusional about the tank update. Nobody likes to fight against a raid boss ON TOP of them exasperating the counterswap issue. I study CS and I am currently working in marketing and it irks me seeing them getting away with what is essentially false advertisement in the form of the inability to complete PVE in time. The same can go for weapon inspects, weapon skins etc. It feels like they haven't been placing effort into the things they have advertised. Where has all the money been going? If they boast about the ludicrously large playerbase, what is there to show? It's like writing a novel: you have your premise, promise and payoff. Blizzard has not delivered on their premise AND their promises. It all leads to this domino effect that makes the game feel miserable to play because of the meta, quality of life and how empty the game feels.
I hope you know that there are a lot of people who feel unmotivated to play the game and that solo queueing is depressing. It's totally valid that you're upset because we've all invested so much into overwatch. I don't want it to fail, I want it to be the best multiplayer shooter because it has the potential
when im tired of overwatch, i take break in apex, paladins (loba and maeve is fun for me), im not sure if that works for everyone, but its easier mentally to come back to the game just to play new features out and fill the bp, instead of playing it 24/7 and noticing a lot of annoying things every second you play. I still really love the game though😢
They just had to rework Orisa back them and 6v6 would’ve been perfect. 2 tanks with deployable shields wouldn’t of been a thing if orisa was reworked then
You guys don't get it. It never was about the double shield. Why do you think Orisa is still hated to go against ? It's the sustain from FORTIFY. Same thing with Sigmas KiNETIC GRASP. It's the sustain those abilities provided when the shields went offline. Plus sustain from tank-support hybrids ( Brig , Baptiste shift) It was never really the double shield lol
Removal of one tank was total monetary reason to cut off owl income , devs KNEW how to balance 6v6 , it was BALANCABLE , double shield was BALANCABLE , remember April fools patch where they made bap immo have a damage reduction instead of immo? Yeah THEYVE ALWAYS KNEW how to balance the meta , they just WONT and they DONT CARE
Especially when they made the October 2020 patch that people loved only to immediately revert it and tell players, "You don't really enjoy this." I think a rogue dev made that patch, and the leadership got jealous that their "vision" wasn't popular. I know it's conspiratorial and I don't care, fuck em.
@KrispyKrabby They nerfed annoying characters like Bap, Brig, Sigma and Orisa. Allowing multiple different comps to be useful. Queue times universally went down.
@@absolute-xero7502 Wow, that's insane that they would revert something like that. I swear, Blizzard must have the biggest egos if they can't accept feedback like that, and now 5v5 being awful to play with...
Honestly I wish the devs who work on the game actually love the game and know how the game functions and what works and what’s doesn’t along with listening to community feedback and having better balancing along with removing immortality abilities and changing the format to 6v6 and also fixing many other issues yet they care so much about money but if you want money it’s simple MAKE A GOOD GAME then people will support you because they genuinely enjoy the game
I haven't played OW2 seriously in months. I used to be able to log on and play for hours. Now, it's 2-3 games and then I'm off. The game feels like work, esp playing support. It's not fun! It's really not fun anymore. I've been trying to figure out what it is. But all I can say is the game doesn't feel right. Matchmaking feels off, healing feels off, movement feels off. There is no fun in the game for me.
"The game feels like work, esp playing support" exactly my thought!! I stopped playing mid season 10 for that reason. I was not finding fun anymore in playing support, it felt like a chore more than anything else and whenever i was playing i would kinda feel empty and somehow frustrated to waste some time on a game that i did use to love, but that was now hard to love due to so many reasons and patchnotes being... well, frustrating. Decided to uninstall the game to not be tempted to play it again, cause a game is supposed to be fun to play! And i dont regret anything seeing season 11 & the mid season patch !! However i'm quite excited for Juno and i'll download overwatch back just to try her out this weekend
Don’t worry dps and tank feels the same ESPECIALLY TANK my god i feel like if im not god levels then im useless and not to mention the constant counter swaps that you have to compensate for or your bad and thats for every role too….
@@alonelytuba I agree, she's fun. I'm not knowledgeable enough to tell how strong she will be overall, but her kit looks solid, people will probably be playing her a ton
Its the opposite for me. I took a break from ow way back from ow1 (just before double shield became meta). I tried ow2 recently after remembering that all characters are unlocked, and hated playing tank.
If I remember correctly, the thing with loot boxes stems from gambling laws that spiraled into more issues and the main solution for it was implementation of a BP, thus keeping the grind aspect active
But there are still games like genshin impact that exist and its basically the same thing….so it probably was just another greedy tactic to shovel more money into the company being fr.
@@JustCharlesBro well genshin is a gacha game unlike overwatch 2, however the thing with overwatch is that they had to comply with said gambling laws and make the lootboxes entirely free or simply remove them. There's a reddit post i found that goes deep into this but youtube wont let me post the link :/
@@JustCharlesBro genshin s a bad example, u should just put apex or paladins, both have the lootbox/chest system (apex gives u lootboxes like ov 1, by leveling ur account and buying them, in paladins u can get chests from BP or buy them in shop)
You’re definitely not alone. I came back like 6 months ago after years of a break. The new competitive matchmaking sucks. The heroes feel very different, lots of the mechanics and gameplay mechanics feel so off.
@@misaetate7245 you described basically every aspect of the game as feeling different or off and saying your matchmaking is trash, and im saying of course it would be like that since you didn’t play the game for such a long time
the passive and the reset, that's what made me leave. I was diamond support for a good part of ow 2 but now I just can't, they put me with silver or even bronze in qp or really bad team in comp (win one game to loose it all with 3 defeat), it's impossible to win games even with huge stats, I can't catch up with my team if my dps or if my tank does nothing.And I tell myself that sometimes yeah maybe it's me or I tell myself that I'm just bad and that I deserve this rank, which is not the case. The passive means that generally playing support makes me feel useless or I have to play support dps so well..I've really stop playing the game as much as before since 2 seasons
i always thought we need to clean up these small things up bc if we keep doing this HUGE changes without a focus we get stuck in more sticky situations we need to clean the dirt around our feet before we clean the dirt around the room
I just picked the game up in March but even then, I can feel and see lots of the issues playing the game and it just feels so irritating to play that I literally have to take mental breaks from it and play something else 😭 i’m hoping Marvel Rivals will be much more enjoyable and would love to see you play that sometime!!
They fucked me for buying the art deco skin for sym, they gave all PlayStation players both it and the bee keeper sigma skin for free and then she came back again on twitch prime.
I completely agree with every single word you said. Maybe I'm also a bit nostalgic, but OW1 was more exciting to me, even when they didn't release any new content. The only issue with OW1 was double shield, specially because it made games so slow, but they could have found another solution to it instead of removing a tank completely. Now I already know the outcome of my games after a couple of minutes: the team with the tank feeding harder is going to lose. After the last patch, playing dps feels almost useless. Playing support has also never been this bad. Metas are more clearly defined and we've had entire seasons with heroes who were literally unplayable because how hard the meta was defined.
The ranking up is really what’s killing the game for me. I’ve been hard stuck plat with my peak being diamond 4 on support role. Like I know that I’m not amazing or the best player in the world why am I unable to climb out of plat where I have people in my game that only play one role and have no idea what good positioning is????!!!!! It feels like the only way to win is to simply carry at all costs!!! And that’s not fun tbh. It’s so demotivating to win 5 games and then lose 1 game and derank all because my tank or support threw the game
@@JustCharlesBro exactly, and when the servers aren't exactly welcoming... it brings a toxic environment I want no part of :( we shouldn't have to find people to play with to make the game a better experience. we shouldn't have to feel WE are the problem when there are bots, or throwers in the lobby.
The skins part is my fav because I bought the Aztec skin(I had to pay 15 dollars for it 2 seasons ago)next thing ik it comes out as an anniversary skin and everyone including me(on an alt acc)has it
We’re going to be stuck in a loop of buff support buff tanks buff dps because one role will feel almost useless with only one tank on a team. It’s impossible to balance 5v5 proven by the many insane gameplay changes they’ve been making and all of them felt awful to play. If one person dies the team fight is lost There are so many other shooters that are just way more fun and balanced.
Firstly, this video has been more enjoyable than ow2 as a whole this entire patch, Secondly, As a bastion main, since the buffs to tanks. I have not enjoyed the game at all, bought the bastion bumblebee skin thinking i’ll have fun in game, but I went from gold 2 to silver 3 within the past 3 days. Looking at my game reports, I’ve on average won 1 game for every 3 loses. And what finally cut the line for me was last night where I lost several games in a row. Bastion feels entirely suppressed by dva’s defense matrix that has a shorter cooldown than turret form bastion, as well as the extremely strong sombra currently. And I know most people will say that im hardstuck gold, just a bad gold player, or just say its a skill issue, but even as a gold player its just not fun and most people can agree. Only reason that I got on was because I bought the transformer skin otherwise I would’ve dropped this game for another couple of months. It’s sad to see its current state. -and dont even get me started on how awful bastion’s ult is-
I wanted to add to the loot box talk because Blizzard HAS a game that has both an in-game shop and loot boxes. That's heroes of the storm, which is a game they don't care about anymore. That game has loot boxes for all items you can get in the game (even new stuff they add) and even character loot boxes where you have a higher chance of getting a skin for that character. You get it by just leveling up the character, and once you level up, you get a box. They have in-game currency as well, which you can use to buy skins, mounts, and characters in the shop if you want, and you can use that same currency to buy loot boxes. Having that on top of a battle pass would make them a lot of money. We could get more cosmetics for characters who really need it and new skins cause I'm so tired of the same 6 characters get new skins and bad recolors.
I liked the Level portrait borders I liked knowing I was progressing in the game. Feels like no progress besides battle pass or the hero level stuff I dont understand.
I hate zarya SO much. You get her weak and she bubbles. When she is in bubble she gets healed to almost full by healers and if you tried to break the bubble to kill her you just power her up and she becomes a killing machine. Or you don’t shoot the bubble and she’s back at full health. It’s so obnoxious
I kept complaining about the two coins that uses for cosmetics. It makes me feel sad cuz all the currency I save up from OW1, was transfer into currency that is for character cosmetics and not the shop cosmetics in OW2
I randomly got back into OW after being a from launch player and I have yet to hear a valid reason as to why the game went into 5v5. I've literally only heard people who are trying to act reasonable by expecting everyone to just put up with it and pretending like its functional. Absolutely everyone's issues have been almost identical too but its like they can't just put it all together lol. This game was *MADE* to function under very *SPECIFIC* design rules. OW literally busted on the scene as a hero shooter and there biggest gimmick was SWAPPING and faster games unlike literally every other hero title being about choosing a single character for the whole game that could last well over 30 minutes. Once 2-2-2 was enforced all the building blocks put into place around swapping being the main mechanic of the game became set in stone basically, those being; each character is DESIGNED to be one of 6 and relatively simple meaning countering them is relatively simple as well, and counterswapping/role reliance was reigned in by there being 2 players of each role. It feels like i'm talking in circles when I think about this but everything fed into each other pretty harmonically. 2 players of each role lowers role reliance and expected pressure each player has to put into each role, incentivizes teamwork across the team but mainly between roles, and keeps balancing relatively simple or at least well structured 5v5 on the other hand is literally what it feels like, chopping of an entire leg of a decently stable table. As we see from the last patch, tanks as a single player role have to be so powerful because they are literally making up for the tanking ability of two entire characters. As stated OW characters are relatively simple with only a few abilities per character and tanks are really only tanks because of their hp and their main tanking ability. Having two tanks means two hp bars and two kits to work with, and a lot more invisible value in the use of teamwork. A single simple character is never going to be able to accomplish what two can, resulting in the balance team just beefing there numbers up like crazy to compensate. This just makes a snowball effect where the tank has to be dealt with because they're too impactful and every role has to be able to deal with that by swapping or with balance changes etc because it's all or nothing, if you have two tanks you have more effective breathing room in basically every regard. Its just a fact that this game was created to be balanced around 6v6 and clearly needs too much fundamental changes to function 5v5. They've had years to make it work and its just not happening. It really just feels like, instead of actually looking at the fundamental issues with tanks in a game like this, they took the extremely simple brute force approach and just axed two whole people from the game lol
I also really feel like the idea of role passives they're testing out now is a healthy step in making this game more replayable. Theres a reason games like league can have people playing so long, and basically the fundamental point of pvp games like this. There needs to be replay value, and blizzard just put all the functional replay value you really have control over as a player into just swapping heros. Literally why everyone was so hyped for skill trees in the pve event. Skill trees/perk choices are a classic in making simple changes feel very impactful and personal. It obvi makes balancing that much more complicated but still, i can't play this game for very long at all without getting bored of the monotony.
overwatch stockholm syndrome is crazy, overwatch 2 isn't fun anymore (never was lmao) because it's designed to be *addictive*, not fun. i am begging people just play games made AND DIRECTED by passionate devs rather than cold indifferent corporate entities
great video ya got every single point right and if i may say ya resemble calm samito and i love it best “rant” about this imo edit:just heard about marvel rivals thing im new on ur channel but would love to see it on ur main
My only issue is if you can find a way to have only ONE shield tank in matches and the other one is locked out of it, then I will give 6v6 a chance, that is my only thing, no double/triple shield meta! Also I the audacity of them still saying 20 dollar skins of season one when we had older skins come back discounted down in OW1's era.
Every day, I find it disheartening to witness the developers treating their most popular game so poorly, focusing solely on numbers rather than considering the community's true desires. 😢💔
And they are recycling content so bad. I'm not just talking about the recolors, have you seen the battle pass? Genji and Zeny's new emotes are also identical victory poses. The highlight intros for Mauga and Sojourn are also recycled. Coins and souvenirs also take up space in the battle pass, they are getting a lot more money for way less effort. The importance of the details was MUCH more special.
The problem with 5v5 in this game is none of the map and characters are designed to compete in 5v5, there is no healer that can sustain one whole team (at non-role queue with 2 tanks and 2 dps like paladins for example) and the balancing of tanks is IMPOSSIBLE because of some of the tanks are designed to be a pure point tank (like rein) and off-tanks (like zarya who deals more damage than any other tanks) even DPS feels really bad due to not be able to kill tanks when i play ow2, hell when i used to play againts drogoz (pharah equivalent) was managable and counterable with many other characters, but the state of phara is crazy in my opinion But making each character busted is NOT the solution because if we compare it to Paladins they have items that you can purchase to mitigate effects, and ow2 doesn't have that and doesn't need that because it will make the game way too complex and i want OW to stay the way OW is known for (in the best possible way, not this season state or copying Paladins lol) Just bring 6v6 and remove healing reduction passive and the game will feel soo much better imo
@@aobaxp it's got a learning curve and a lot of people playing it currently have been playing it for a long time (i've been playing it for a decade), but a lot of new players are joining because of the cheater banwave. it's an extremely fun and fast paced game. if you do decide to play just make sure to set your fov to 90 and enable minimized viewmodels in your settings because tf2's default fov and viewmodels are not good lol
I agree.. I usually play 2-3 games a day like before I would play for 2 hours ish a day but now I’m kind of burnt out. Like I’m branching to different games now. I’m in my dbd era
overall, the game is not fun to play anymore and the community being ultra toxic almost every game doesn't help... the trend of saying "X diff" is honestly disgusting, even in quickplay or arcade. it used to be such a fun game to play with a nice community, making it F2P kinda put it one step closer to the grave.
I am really reaching a level of anger and frustration that I am on the edge to abandon the game, speaking from a support prospective they now make it literally impossible to escape any tank especially doomfist and Dva they buffed them sooo much and still keep nerfing supports, in addition to let you in games with people who literally just started playing the game and you’re on almost 700 H in the game and if you leave you get a penalty!!! I never seen a crazy game like OW, despite the fact they still won’t nerf tracer and pharah , I am done with this game.
I solo que and I was gm 1 in ow 1 and 2 but the mmr reset happened and I was hard stuck diamond u cannot escape the diamond 1 master 5 hell I don't have friends this high or they hate comp this games makes me SO frustrated
Another thing about the PvE the only new mission not shown in trailers was the Underworld mission which was a limited time free pve mission. The 3 we can still play and had to pay for are only mission they had shown since they announced Overwatch 2 back in 2019, so 5 years 3 missions they had already shown and 1 they hadn't. So question is where did all that time go to?
If you want to post Marvel Rivals on your main channel I would love to see it or just on your second channel I’ll watch it too. With the current state of Overwatch 2, all you can do is put your opinion out there and hope for the best. Love your content.💜
my experience with ranked has been the exact same. i was plat 1 in ow1. now in ow 2 i cant even get out of gold 5. if i get one win into gold 4 the system instantly puts me into loosers q. i dont know if ow has this but in league loosers q means that the mm thinks youre rank is too high so it puts you in a lobby whith stronger enemies and weaker teammates. this is not just cope this actually exists. part of it is to prevent smurfing but part of it is also to make the ranked experience more frustrating so that you are more emotionally invested. its been 3 days in a row where i got one win in gold 4 and then i lose 4 matches in a row putting me back at gold 5 0 sr.
Quickplay be more competitive than competitive like i swear i find way to many try hards and people getting upset about things. Like i was playing Mor on support at the start of the game one time because i just wanted to turn off my head and play jist for the enemy team to focus down me everytime i got up to my team so as a result at the time i had low healing cause well, if im dead all the time because of being focused down im not gonna get healing in. Anyway the other support compared our numbers and then just threw the game on purpose blaming me for everything even tho at that point i swapped to a diffremt support and was out healing them. Also god forbid we point out to the other support that we were in QP XD
Ngl matchmaking is also a problem that happens a lot in comp. I was put into a team recently and we had dominated the other team without struggle and at the end of the game someone had mentioned that this does not feel well balanced and we all agreed on that.
Widow and sombra absolutely kill the game for me. They make you play the game completely differently. Having to hide from widow and constantly watch for sombra to kill try and kill your support is zero fun and just infuriating to play against.
im with you on the "impossible to climb" comment, i hit plat on support at least 6 times this season ALONE and the game kept forcing me back into gold until eventually i stopped playing for a week and they shot me straight into plat 3 where i now hover. i shouldn't gain more elo for a win streak and lose more on a loss streak when most of the time, wins and losses are not in the player's hands and is more an algorithmic system, at least the way i see it.
36:24 wasnt there an experimental mode for players to test reworks and balance changes like the old moira rework/ why did they forget about it? it was such a good way to test the things they want to add to the game and to make players feel like they have an ability to decide about the games balace... edit - thx levin for the yap session to listen to before going to sleep
maybe 6v6 without shields and overpowered tanks like reinhards killing in two times would help, also making none heroes counters of other and only being to choose once your hero and not swapping, that would help so much
i prefer to play casually these days but man it's such a struggle. the game is literally just counter picking like i wanna pick my silly little character & just play. i don't want to HAVE to swap to win like ughhh 😭 ALSO I MISS THE PORTRAIT BORDERS. THEY WERE SO PRETTY.
i feel like theyre lying about not having enough resources for PVE i just think they make dumb choices and then pay off financially or players dropping this all could have been avoided had they really made a plan on how to do ow2 instead of rushing it and then not being able to even give us the main subject that got people into ow2. Blizzard really imo is gonna need a lot of time to recover for game to be fun but by that point people will be burnt out more than they are right now. Also i dont understand why they take AGES for small bug fixes but make new bugs that are even worse to fix and then ignore smaller ones or old ones it just makes me think they want to make a splash with new 'content' and push under the rug things that make it bad its sad.
Them removing competitive points after each season felt really pointless, theres already not much to work towards since we don't have lot boxes, and can also only get 150 credits with challenges, so I know a lot of people who would work towards golden gun skins but now you've got to go even harder to get just one and all you get at the end of a season now is a Title almost nobody uses. But its ultimately harder to get one now that comp is just counterwatch and being focused by someone. End of season rewards felt like you were ACTUALLY being rewarded for your hard work at your rank.
I also hate how they don’t replace whoever left in the match. It forces the team with 5 people to waste time and slug it out and stay until the other team fully leaves
I like Avril's opinion of hero balance, using Winston as a perfect example: heroes designed so that player skill limits the amount of impact they have with a character. Winston is accessible to new players but also viable at the highest ranks. People are punished for making mistakes and rewarded for playing him well. That's the balance of OW future if they want to figure out a way to make the casuals happy and have a good game. Also, here is what I predict will happen in the next year. Aaron will have the 6 v 6 talk and announce that they'll create a special 6 v 6 gamemode for the community to try. It's the only thing he can do that won't upset everyone. People will try 6 v 6, the majority will prefer it, and the devs will convert the game. They may take forever to do it, but this modern dev team might be awesome and just full send it and fix it as they go. Sigma will need to be addressed before puting him in 6 v 6. He isn't good for the game in that environment.
Did they ever even explain what they were pretending to work on? There’s no way you pull devs from OW1 to OW2 to work on PVE and then only realize you don’t have the resources 4 years later😭
They had to remove loot boxes because the whole children gambling in certain countries. What they should have done was remove buying loot boxes and just let them have to buy coins to buy the skins. Though that would be odd with loot boxes, and it wouldn't really work unless if loot boxes were somehow different. To possibly counter double shield, they could Mauga + bastion + Symmetra + kiri+ Bap. It's a very risky play, but I think it could work. Or maybe Ram + Bastion + Junkrat+ Bap + Kiri. If ram puts his shield up fast and then switches to his nemesis form, it could work well, especially as a distraction. I do think brig should be DPS given her kit isn't well, and she has to be close to be effective and for a healer that's not great when you can't have an escape plan. Her shield bash can only take her so far. Even with her whip, it doesn't take the enemy far or long to catch up. The old system apparently, I think they removed it because of the inconsistency of “wrong rank” for players. It was true, however they could have maybe somehow change it a bit. They need to focus on PVE and the lore, yet the price is ridiculous and replay isn't worth it, and I agree with you. To be honest, they don't have the resources because they don't know what they're doing or what to do with the current issue of OW. I do home 6 v 6 stays, and they wake up and listen to their player base. Pharah's concussion is dumb for what they made. For Mauga it was good on paper, but ulting should feel powerful. Nerfing from I think it was 6 to 3 and from forgot how much you got to 100 is nuts. I do like playing Mauga, but these changes aren't great. The fact you can also shut down Mauga's cardiac overdrive is utterly useless, and 3 seconds is not along in that case. With 5 v 5 Mauga is hard to play but 6 v 6 I can see him go up the tier list even if it's just a little. The rank system still feels like elo hell, and I can't get out of high silver/ mid/high-gold. I know I have a lot to work on, but it was just hard to get out of that mess. SR shouldn't be dropping hard from losing a game. It should be on just performance as a whole, and of course mostly on the person. SR should matter maybe a bit more on the top 500. But solo queue is hard because your team could be not the perfect match up and at times the enemy team is just filled with heavy good or hacking players, and it just is impossible to play the game. They make too many skins because it's an only way to get funds. They shouldn't have gone free to play when people like us who paid for OW1. I don't get the points as legacy right now is useless because gold is now moved with the other currency. The game isn't fun and I only ever played comp to try to get the points to get the gold skins for some heroes, but 3k is insane and very grindy. Skin prices are overpriced, that is 100% true. Blizzard focuses too much on numbers and statistics than how people feel or for them testing it themselves. Game isn't fun and yea I too only play a few games and get off.
Everyone get on Marvel Rivals. Played hours of it yesterday with my og OW friend group and we had an absolute blast. It's still a closed beta, but it's 6v6 and feels like everything you'd want in Overwatch.
Low diamond to low plat across roles is I where play after the reset.. it is the most uneven rank. One game where a dps goes 1-10 then next hame goes 40-3 lol. The rank system is bad and super grind. I haven't ranked up since season 9 too.
The skin system is horrible, having so many characters they only point to the same ones as always, why so many 20 dollar Kiri and Mercy skins? Do I have to wait 30 seasons for a mythical Symm skin? I hate it
What if they made it a choice, q for 6v6 or 5v5, then after testing you could implement that into competitive. Also playing support is so miserable this season, been playing every supp but my mains lol. A full mercy rework would be soo good.
I hate that they made every support so good at dps so now if you play tank, you just feed because you expect to be healed but on your death spectate, you see both healers out 1v1ing a dps while the rest of the team does around them.
if only the community would learn something from the game they play for thousands of hours and actually try to work as a team they could come together and pressure the devs into 6v6. reverting changes has worked in league so why not in ow? if we could get like a petition or something going i think it would be possible. after returning from a long brake i am surprised with how many people still play this game i thought this game was already one foot in the grave. i mainly play in low sr silver-gold and one thing i cant get through my head is that for some reason it feels like it was easier to carry and to have an impact in 6v6 rather then 5v5. with 6v6 you had more chaos and opportunities to find a pick. and when you eventually get a pick it felt more impactful. often times i play tracer, i get a pick on the support and im thinking to myself ok this is a 5v4 now it should be an easy win but most of the times tanks and pharah have such a big impact that it doesnt even matter. playing dive on dps feels so unrewarding. also having so many hybrid supports that do dmg and healing equally are such bad game design. its so uninspiring to me that their solution to making support more then just healbots and giving them more impact is just flat damage. its the most primitive and uncreative solution. ilari is just a joke of a hero design. also vantage needs to removed. there is no saving that design. its just a self insert from a random tumblr "artist".
A big hit is no find group feature. I am agoraphobic and never leave my house. The only human interaction I get is games with people. I have no freinds on Xbox like people I play with often. It was the most fun time in my life when I could hop on overwatch and look at the groups. Join like 420 overwatch quick play, or sometimes it was karaoke party groups just fun people and laughs while playing. Now no one talks ever it’s so sad and it’s suppose to be a cooperative, communication game.
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So many heroes are just broken right now and you can't play any hero you like. You have to play those specific characters or you are going to have a hard time
I really like venture as a character and their playstyle is fun. But I feel like I’m not doing anything in fights as they keep nerfing their damage. What you say is the reason I don’t play this game, I feel like I can’t play who I like anymore without feeling useless
Only a handful off heroes are broken and they dictate what you are allowed to play . Right now its basicly counter swap the enemy tank as hard as you can or he will take over the game . So supports are forced to perma heal bot the tank haveing to play high out out healers or 1 botton stay alife abilitys . Befor they buffed tank to the extream it was 99% healers controling the meta
@@BigPro1123 Venture only worked becouse of her 1 shot combot but they removed that so now you cant kill anything fast enoth befor you are stranded in no were waiting to get picked off .
Meta sucks indeed
@@xythiera7255 TBH I like that phase rather than this shit show that is going on right now
I think they should have done story mode instead of PVE where you explore past or future stories about the characters
Story mode is just pve with extra steps I mean instead of one group of characters doing the same mission you have each character with their own custom mission.
that sounds like soo much fun. uhg... there were literally a million things they could have done that would have been better than what we got.
@@starkiller1289 It would be way better if Blizzard were competent. But judging how they are right now, your assessment seems reasonable.
I’m pretty sure that was gonna be part of the pve, like I swear they had a symmetra personal mission, I could be wrong and just crazy tho lmao
Quickplay became stressful counterpick games,
Competitive game are more enjoyable because every body calling out to win
what game have you played i have never seen callout people only use the mic the flame in my experience.
Same here all my lobbies people either argue or 7 out 10 games no one's in chat it's sad
I think we have different lobbies because counterswapping happens no matter what game mode I'm in. At least quicjplay for me sometimes have people say quirky stuff in chat like "go easy on me I'm drunk" or "I dientify as a Baptiste main, walk into my arrows"
@@flitter5400 playing Asia server, especially Korea Incheon server, most of the high rank games are rather simple or difficult, it causes huge mental impact against players. If I call out for my team, korean player would try to call out in English as well, because they wanted to win as well.
Toxicity mostly come from selfish diamond & plat players, they considered themselves as skillful, I am the best players in the world... so are master and above master players joke for them? yes lol
@@mariustan9275 in asia server, people trying so hard to win a quickplay game, flaming enemy team with ez ggs noob... I end up playing Na server, people there are chilling, making friends by using text and voicechat, huge difference against Asia matches
Honestly, playing Symmetra and Sombra, I had absolutely no problem playing against double shield and Bastian.
Only metas I had problems with in OW1 was Pharmercy, which.....still exists today. 🤷♂
Omg yes. I also always played echo that melts shields like nothing!!!
Seriously they are cancer
And even then pharh got nerfed to the point that she cant fly permanently anymore.
i agree ,
It’s fun if both teams have competent players otherwise one team will completely dominate the other
It was always like that, imo
overwatch was the first FPS game i’ve ever played so it’ll always have a special place in my heart. I stopped playing ow in late 2018 and recently picked it up again summer 2023 and the game just doesn’t scratch that same itch it did. i remember seeing that the reason they went with 5v5 was because they wanted a faster pace game but games now feel irritating and un-winnable within the first 2 minutes. comp isn’t fun for me bc i don’t like mirror matches and forced to play the same 3 heroes, quick play is full of throwers and counter swaps, the battle pass isnt that inticing, the game has lost so much appeal. the most annoying thing is that it’s not hard to fix the game. going back to 6v6 with reduced health, a designated shield and brawler tank, re-working old 2CP maps or converting them into push/flashpoint maps would bring back players. as much as i love playing this game i don’t see myself playing that much longer.
I don't really enjoy it anymore either. I only play QP with friends often and even that became tiresome with all the counterswaps and toxic mindset of players.
Honestly, I think the balance team is delusional about the tank update. Nobody likes to fight against a raid boss ON TOP of them exasperating the counterswap issue.
I study CS and I am currently working in marketing and it irks me seeing them getting away with what is essentially false advertisement in the form of the inability to complete PVE in time. The same can go for weapon inspects, weapon skins etc. It feels like they haven't been placing effort into the things they have advertised. Where has all the money been going? If they boast about the ludicrously large playerbase, what is there to show? It's like writing a novel: you have your premise, promise and payoff. Blizzard has not delivered on their premise AND their promises. It all leads to this domino effect that makes the game feel miserable to play because of the meta, quality of life and how empty the game feels.
I hope you know that there are a lot of people who feel unmotivated to play the game and that solo queueing is depressing. It's totally valid that you're upset because we've all invested so much into overwatch. I don't want it to fail, I want it to be the best multiplayer shooter because it has the potential
when im tired of overwatch, i take break in apex, paladins (loba and maeve is fun for me), im not sure if that works for everyone, but its easier mentally to come back to the game just to play new features out and fill the bp, instead of playing it 24/7 and noticing a lot of annoying things every second you play. I still really love the game though😢
Yeah ngl same? Like when I complete my BP im happy cuz it means i can Focus on others games without the "I need to finish the BP" guilt lol
yes!! i literally find more joy in paladins than overwatch, even though they have a low budget on their game
if 6v6 would come back imo they should make it like there is one shield tank and one dive tank
LITERALLY!!! That would resolve double shield meta!!!
They just had to rework Orisa back them and 6v6 would’ve been perfect. 2 tanks with deployable shields wouldn’t of been a thing if orisa was reworked then
Hot take: current Orisa would still work in double barrier. While she has no shield, she has just as much sustain.
@@thiefpotato2759 But you can still do damage tho lol like yea she has sustain but the issue with the shields is that it prevents damage completely.
You guys don't get it. It never was about the double shield. Why do you think Orisa is still hated to go against ? It's the sustain from FORTIFY. Same thing with Sigmas KiNETIC GRASP. It's the sustain those abilities provided when the shields went offline. Plus sustain from tank-support hybrids ( Brig , Baptiste shift) It was never really the double shield lol
Removal of one tank was total monetary reason to cut off owl income , devs KNEW how to balance 6v6 , it was BALANCABLE , double shield was BALANCABLE , remember April fools patch where they made bap immo have a damage reduction instead of immo? Yeah THEYVE ALWAYS KNEW how to balance the meta , they just WONT and they DONT CARE
Especially when they made the October 2020 patch that people loved only to immediately revert it and tell players, "You don't really enjoy this." I think a rogue dev made that patch, and the leadership got jealous that their "vision" wasn't popular. I know it's conspiratorial and I don't care, fuck em.
@@absolute-xero7502 wait, what was the October 2020 patch??
@KrispyKrabby They nerfed annoying characters like Bap, Brig, Sigma and Orisa. Allowing multiple different comps to be useful. Queue times universally went down.
@@absolute-xero7502 Wow, that's insane that they would revert something like that. I swear, Blizzard must have the biggest egos if they can't accept feedback like that, and now 5v5 being awful to play with...
Honestly I wish the devs who work on the game actually love the game and know how the game functions and what works and what’s doesn’t along with listening to community feedback and having better balancing along with removing immortality abilities and changing the format to 6v6 and also fixing many other issues yet they care so much about money but if you want money it’s simple MAKE A GOOD GAME then people will support you because they genuinely enjoy the game
I haven't played OW2 seriously in months. I used to be able to log on and play for hours. Now, it's 2-3 games and then I'm off. The game feels like work, esp playing support. It's not fun! It's really not fun anymore. I've been trying to figure out what it is. But all I can say is the game doesn't feel right. Matchmaking feels off, healing feels off, movement feels off. There is no fun in the game for me.
"The game feels like work, esp playing support" exactly my thought!!
I stopped playing mid season 10 for that reason. I was not finding fun anymore in playing support, it felt like a chore more than anything else and whenever i was playing i would kinda feel empty and somehow frustrated to waste some time on a game that i did use to love, but that was now hard to love due to so many reasons and patchnotes being... well, frustrating.
Decided to uninstall the game to not be tempted to play it again, cause a game is supposed to be fun to play! And i dont regret anything seeing season 11 & the mid season patch !!
However i'm quite excited for Juno and i'll download overwatch back just to try her out this weekend
Don’t worry dps and tank feels the same ESPECIALLY TANK my god i feel like if im not god levels then im useless and not to mention the constant counter swaps that you have to compensate for or your bad and thats for every role too….
Idk, I took a break for a couple months and now I'm back and I'm having fun. Also excited for Juno!
Opinions on her? she just came out
@@RilosBiggestFanI don’t think she’s overpowered she’s actually pretty fun too
@@alonelytuba I agree, she's fun. I'm not knowledgeable enough to tell how strong she will be overall, but her kit looks solid, people will probably be playing her a ton
@@alonelytuba oh that's good!! hope you continue having fun with Juno !😄
Its the opposite for me. I took a break from ow way back from ow1 (just before double shield became meta). I tried ow2 recently after remembering that all characters are unlocked, and hated playing tank.
If I remember correctly, the thing with loot boxes stems from gambling laws that spiraled into more issues and the main solution for it was implementation of a BP, thus keeping the grind aspect active
But there are still games like genshin impact that exist and its basically the same thing….so it probably was just another greedy tactic to shovel more money into the company being fr.
As a community we didn't know we were in the good of days
@@JustCharlesBro well genshin is a gacha game unlike overwatch 2, however the thing with overwatch is that they had to comply with said gambling laws and make the lootboxes entirely free or simply remove them. There's a reddit post i found that goes deep into this but youtube wont let me post the link :/
@@JustCharlesBro genshin s a bad example, u should just put apex or paladins, both have the lootbox/chest system (apex gives u lootboxes like ov 1, by leveling ur account and buying them, in paladins u can get chests from BP or buy them in shop)
@@elkjaer7500I don't see why a gacha game is exempt from certain laws though
You’re definitely not alone. I came back like 6 months ago after years of a break. The new competitive matchmaking sucks. The heroes feel very different, lots of the mechanics and gameplay mechanics feel so off.
yea of course the game and matchmaking is gonna feel off if you havent played the game for 6 months
@@rbxstrobe comprehension is key and that’s not at all what my comment is saying homie. Less game more book
@@misaetate7245 you described basically every aspect of the game as feeling different or off and saying your matchmaking is trash, and im saying of course it would be like that since you didn’t play the game for such a long time
the passive and the reset, that's what made me leave. I was diamond support for a good part of ow 2 but now I just can't, they put me with silver or even bronze in qp or really bad team in comp (win one game to loose it all with 3 defeat), it's impossible to win games even with huge stats, I can't catch up with my team if my dps or if my tank does nothing.And I tell myself that sometimes yeah maybe it's me or I tell myself that I'm just bad and that I deserve this rank, which is not the case. The passive means that generally playing support makes me feel useless or I have to play support dps so well..I've really stop playing the game as much as before since 2 seasons
i always thought we need to clean up these small things up bc if we keep doing this HUGE changes without a focus we get stuck in more sticky situations
we need to clean the dirt around our feet before we clean the dirt around the room
Would definitely love to see u play marvel rivals, i hope that game rises us from from the ashes overwatch has created
I just picked the game up in March but even then, I can feel and see lots of the issues playing the game and it just feels so irritating to play that I literally have to take mental breaks from it and play something else 😭 i’m hoping Marvel Rivals will be much more enjoyable and would love to see you play that sometime!!
They fucked me for buying the art deco skin for sym, they gave all PlayStation players both it and the bee keeper sigma skin for free and then she came back again on twitch prime.
the rank borders are removed to reduce Toxicity (according to them)
I completely agree with every single word you said. Maybe I'm also a bit nostalgic, but OW1 was more exciting to me, even when they didn't release any new content. The only issue with OW1 was double shield, specially because it made games so slow, but they could have found another solution to it instead of removing a tank completely. Now I already know the outcome of my games after a couple of minutes: the team with the tank feeding harder is going to lose. After the last patch, playing dps feels almost useless. Playing support has also never been this bad. Metas are more clearly defined and we've had entire seasons with heroes who were literally unplayable because how hard the meta was defined.
The ranking up is really what’s killing the game for me. I’ve been hard stuck plat with my peak being diamond 4 on support role. Like I know that I’m not amazing or the best player in the world why am I unable to climb out of plat where I have people in my game that only play one role and have no idea what good positioning is????!!!!! It feels like the only way to win is to simply carry at all costs!!! And that’s not fun tbh. It’s so demotivating to win 5 games and then lose 1 game and derank all because my tank or support threw the game
Well try to find teammates. There are serves made for that , even with their own region like a Turkish OW discord server
@@joelester460you might still encounter shitters it doesn’t change anything fr…
@@JustCharlesBro exactly, and when the servers aren't exactly welcoming... it brings a toxic environment I want no part of :( we shouldn't have to find people to play with to make the game a better experience. we shouldn't have to feel WE are the problem when there are bots, or throwers in the lobby.
The skins part is my fav because I bought the Aztec skin(I had to pay 15 dollars for it 2 seasons ago)next thing ik it comes out as an anniversary skin and everyone including me(on an alt acc)has it
They removed loot boxes due to many countries applying laws against loot boxing due. It's classified as gambling.
We’re going to be stuck in a loop of buff support buff tanks buff dps because one role will feel almost useless with only one tank on a team. It’s impossible to balance 5v5 proven by the many insane gameplay changes they’ve been making and all of them felt awful to play. If one person dies the team fight is lost
There are so many other shooters that are just way more fun and balanced.
Firstly, this video has been more enjoyable than ow2 as a whole this entire patch,
Secondly, As a bastion main, since the buffs to tanks. I have not enjoyed the game at all, bought the bastion bumblebee skin thinking i’ll have fun in game, but I went from gold 2 to silver 3 within the past 3 days. Looking at my game reports, I’ve on average won 1 game for every 3 loses. And what finally cut the line for me was last night where I lost several games in a row. Bastion feels entirely suppressed by dva’s defense matrix that has a shorter cooldown than turret form bastion, as well as the extremely strong sombra currently.
And I know most people will say that im hardstuck gold, just a bad gold player, or just say its a skill issue, but even as a gold player its just not fun and most people can agree. Only reason that I got on was because I bought the transformer skin otherwise I would’ve dropped this game for another couple of months. It’s sad to see its current state. -and dont even get me started on how awful bastion’s ult is-
I wanted to add to the loot box talk because Blizzard HAS a game that has both an in-game shop and loot boxes. That's heroes of the storm, which is a game they don't care about anymore. That game has loot boxes for all items you can get in the game (even new stuff they add) and even character loot boxes where you have a higher chance of getting a skin for that character. You get it by just leveling up the character, and once you level up, you get a box. They have in-game currency as well, which you can use to buy skins, mounts, and characters in the shop if you want, and you can use that same currency to buy loot boxes. Having that on top of a battle pass would make them a lot of money. We could get more cosmetics for characters who really need it and new skins cause I'm so tired of the same 6 characters get new skins and bad recolors.
I liked the Level portrait borders I liked knowing I was progressing in the game. Feels like no progress besides battle pass or the hero level stuff I dont understand.
am i the only one who is tired of zarya mains. she literally is annoying as a sigma main, only counter i use for her is rammatra
I hate zarya SO much. You get her weak and she bubbles. When she is in bubble she gets healed to almost full by healers and if you tried to break the bubble to kill her you just power her up and she becomes a killing machine. Or you don’t shoot the bubble and she’s back at full health. It’s so obnoxious
I kept complaining about the two coins that uses for cosmetics. It makes me feel sad cuz all the currency I save up from OW1, was transfer into currency that is for character cosmetics and not the shop cosmetics in OW2
I randomly got back into OW after being a from launch player and I have yet to hear a valid reason as to why the game went into 5v5. I've literally only heard people who are trying to act reasonable by expecting everyone to just put up with it and pretending like its functional. Absolutely everyone's issues have been almost identical too but its like they can't just put it all together lol. This game was *MADE* to function under very *SPECIFIC* design rules. OW literally busted on the scene as a hero shooter and there biggest gimmick was SWAPPING and faster games unlike literally every other hero title being about choosing a single character for the whole game that could last well over 30 minutes.
Once 2-2-2 was enforced all the building blocks put into place around swapping being the main mechanic of the game became set in stone basically, those being; each character is DESIGNED to be one of 6 and relatively simple meaning countering them is relatively simple as well, and counterswapping/role reliance was reigned in by there being 2 players of each role.
It feels like i'm talking in circles when I think about this but everything fed into each other pretty harmonically. 2 players of each role lowers role reliance and expected pressure each player has to put into each role, incentivizes teamwork across the team but mainly between roles, and keeps balancing relatively simple or at least well structured
5v5 on the other hand is literally what it feels like, chopping of an entire leg of a decently stable table. As we see from the last patch, tanks as a single player role have to be so powerful because they are literally making up for the tanking ability of two entire characters. As stated OW characters are relatively simple with only a few abilities per character and tanks are really only tanks because of their hp and their main tanking ability. Having two tanks means two hp bars and two kits to work with, and a lot more invisible value in the use of teamwork. A single simple character is never going to be able to accomplish what two can, resulting in the balance team just beefing there numbers up like crazy to compensate. This just makes a snowball effect where the tank has to be dealt with because they're too impactful and every role has to be able to deal with that by swapping or with balance changes etc because it's all or nothing, if you have two tanks you have more effective breathing room in basically every regard.
Its just a fact that this game was created to be balanced around 6v6 and clearly needs too much fundamental changes to function 5v5. They've had years to make it work and its just not happening. It really just feels like, instead of actually looking at the fundamental issues with tanks in a game like this, they took the extremely simple brute force approach and just axed two whole people from the game lol
I also really feel like the idea of role passives they're testing out now is a healthy step in making this game more replayable. Theres a reason games like league can have people playing so long, and basically the fundamental point of pvp games like this. There needs to be replay value, and blizzard just put all the functional replay value you really have control over as a player into just swapping heros. Literally why everyone was so hyped for skill trees in the pve event. Skill trees/perk choices are a classic in making simple changes feel very impactful and personal. It obvi makes balancing that much more complicated but still, i can't play this game for very long at all without getting bored of the monotony.
The dps passive makes it horrible to play.
Yeah, I definitely wish it was removed
Not really.
overwatch stockholm syndrome is crazy, overwatch 2 isn't fun anymore (never was lmao) because it's designed to be *addictive*, not fun. i am begging people just play games made AND DIRECTED by passionate devs rather than cold indifferent corporate entities
levin, please try the 6v6 custom mode with the discord server. its actually so much fun. it makes the game feel so fresh.
great video ya got every single point right and if i may say ya resemble calm samito and i love it best “rant” about this imo
edit:just heard about marvel rivals thing im new on ur channel but would love to see it on ur main
literally its not as fun as overwatch 1
i picked mercy and our moira threw as soon as we loaded in like bro
My only issue is if you can find a way to have only ONE shield tank in matches and the other one is locked out of it, then I will give 6v6 a chance, that is my only thing, no double/triple shield meta! Also I the audacity of them still saying 20 dollar skins of season one when we had older skins come back discounted down in OW1's era.
sr gain/loss with support, would be awful! I've had games won with 2k heals and lost with 6k-10k
Every day, I find it disheartening to witness the developers treating their most popular game so poorly, focusing solely on numbers rather than considering the community's true desires. 😢💔
They actually took away lootboxes for legal reasons i bwlieve might be wrong though.
And they are recycling content so bad. I'm not just talking about the recolors, have you seen the battle pass? Genji and Zeny's new emotes are also identical victory poses. The highlight intros for Mauga and Sojourn are also recycled. Coins and souvenirs also take up space in the battle pass, they are getting a lot more money for way less effort. The importance of the details was MUCH more special.
The problem with 5v5 in this game is none of the map and characters are designed to compete in 5v5, there is no healer that can sustain one whole team (at non-role queue with 2 tanks and 2 dps like paladins for example) and the balancing of tanks is IMPOSSIBLE because of some of the tanks are designed to be a pure point tank (like rein) and off-tanks (like zarya who deals more damage than any other tanks) even DPS feels really bad due to not be able to kill tanks when i play ow2, hell when i used to play againts drogoz (pharah equivalent) was managable and counterable with many other characters, but the state of phara is crazy in my opinion
But making each character busted is NOT the solution because if we compare it to Paladins they have items that you can purchase to mitigate effects, and ow2 doesn't have that and doesn't need that because it will make the game way too complex and i want OW to stay the way OW is known for (in the best possible way, not this season state or copying Paladins lol)
Just bring 6v6 and remove healing reduction passive and the game will feel soo much better imo
To me its because ppl refuse to communicate i miss the looking for group feature
I miss the voting system after each match
5v5, dps damage buffs, dps passive, the health pool buff. It all makes the game terrible.
come play tf2 the bots are gone and the summer update just dropped
ngl ive been wanting to try tf2 but learning new games is scary af 💀
@@aobaxp it's got a learning curve and a lot of people playing it currently have been playing it for a long time (i've been playing it for a decade), but a lot of new players are joining because of the cheater banwave. it's an extremely fun and fast paced game. if you do decide to play just make sure to set your fov to 90 and enable minimized viewmodels in your settings because tf2's default fov and viewmodels are not good lol
@@charbway ty! i'll give it a try :)
Deadass????? I’m on my way
No new weapons
I agree.. I usually play 2-3 games a day like before I would play for 2 hours ish a day but now I’m kind of burnt out. Like I’m branching to different games now. I’m in my dbd era
overall, the game is not fun to play anymore and the community being ultra toxic almost every game doesn't help...
the trend of saying "X diff" is honestly disgusting, even in quickplay or arcade.
it used to be such a fun game to play with a nice community, making it F2P kinda put it one step closer to the grave.
I am really reaching a level of anger and frustration that I am on the edge to abandon the game, speaking from a support prospective they now make it literally impossible to escape any tank especially doomfist and Dva they buffed them sooo much and still keep nerfing supports, in addition to let you in games with people who literally just started playing the game and you’re on almost 700 H in the game and if you leave you get a penalty!!! I never seen a crazy game like OW, despite the fact they still won’t nerf tracer and pharah , I am done with this game.
I solo que and I was gm 1 in ow 1 and 2 but the mmr reset happened and I was hard stuck diamond u cannot escape the diamond 1 master 5 hell I don't have friends this high or they hate comp this games makes me SO frustrated
I think ill start finding it fun again once junos gets offically released idk 😭
Another thing about the PvE the only new mission not shown in trailers was the Underworld mission which was a limited time free pve mission. The 3 we can still play and had to pay for are only mission they had shown since they announced Overwatch 2 back in 2019, so 5 years 3 missions they had already shown and 1 they hadn't. So question is where did all that time go to?
we have to boost this so the devs can see and hear valid points that the community agrees with mostly. Great vid lev
If you want to post Marvel Rivals on your main channel I would love to see it or just on your second channel I’ll watch it too. With the current state of Overwatch 2, all you can do is put your opinion out there and hope for the best. Love your content.💜
lev please make some more marvel rivals content! it was so good and honestly, i would watch you play anything cause i love your editing style! ❤
my experience with ranked has been the exact same. i was plat 1 in ow1. now in ow 2 i cant even get out of gold 5. if i get one win into gold 4 the system instantly puts me into loosers q. i dont know if ow has this but in league loosers q means that the mm thinks youre rank is too high so it puts you in a lobby whith stronger enemies and weaker teammates. this is not just cope this actually exists. part of it is to prevent smurfing but part of it is also to make the ranked experience more frustrating so that you are more emotionally invested. its been 3 days in a row where i got one win in gold 4 and then i lose 4 matches in a row putting me back at gold 5 0 sr.
I cant go a single game without someone going sombra🙃🙃🙃 so im waiting for a new hero shooter
Quickplay be more competitive than competitive like i swear i find way to many try hards and people getting upset about things. Like i was playing Mor on support at the start of the game one time because i just wanted to turn off my head and play jist for the enemy team to focus down me everytime i got up to my team so as a result at the time i had low healing cause well, if im dead all the time because of being focused down im not gonna get healing in. Anyway the other support compared our numbers and then just threw the game on purpose blaming me for everything even tho at that point i swapped to a diffremt support and was out healing them. Also god forbid we point out to the other support that we were in QP XD
Ngl matchmaking is also a problem that happens a lot in comp. I was put into a team recently and we had dominated the other team without struggle and at the end of the game someone had mentioned that this does not feel well balanced and we all agreed on that.
I’ve never said a hero should be removed until mauga was introduced he absolutely ruins the game
Widow and sombra absolutely kill the game for me. They make you play the game completely differently. Having to hide from widow and constantly watch for sombra to kill try and kill your support is zero fun and just infuriating to play against.
im with you on the "impossible to climb" comment, i hit plat on support at least 6 times this season ALONE and the game kept forcing me back into gold until eventually i stopped playing for a week and they shot me straight into plat 3 where i now hover. i shouldn't gain more elo for a win streak and lose more on a loss streak when most of the time, wins and losses are not in the player's hands and is more an algorithmic system, at least the way i see it.
I want them to thoroughly experiment with hero bands before going back to 6v6 if at all.
Ow is so ‘bad’ right now I had a few friends uninstall
36:24 wasnt there an experimental mode for players to test reworks and balance changes like the old moira rework/ why did they forget about it? it was such a good way to test the things they want to add to the game and to make players feel like they have an ability to decide about the games balace...
edit - thx levin for the yap session to listen to before going to sleep
Only blizzard could take a period where everyone is trapped indoors and make it bad for a video game’s success
Uh I used to play Doomfist so this is a short conversation for me
maybe 6v6 without shields and overpowered tanks like reinhards killing in two times would help, also making none heroes counters of other and only being to choose once your hero and not swapping, that would help so much
The answer is because everyone just ends up going to characters to force me off the one i like
i prefer to play casually these days but man it's such a struggle. the game is literally just counter picking like i wanna pick my silly little character & just play. i don't want to HAVE to swap to win like ughhh 😭 ALSO I MISS THE PORTRAIT BORDERS. THEY WERE SO PRETTY.
6 v 6 but you have to have a main tank and off tank role. you could never have double shield.
i feel like theyre lying about not having enough resources for PVE i just think they make dumb choices and then pay off financially or players dropping this all could have been avoided had they really made a plan on how to do ow2 instead of rushing it and then not being able to even give us the main subject that got people into ow2. Blizzard really imo is gonna need a lot of time to recover for game to be fun but by that point people will be burnt out more than they are right now. Also i dont understand why they take AGES for small bug fixes but make new bugs that are even worse to fix and then ignore smaller ones or old ones it just makes me think they want to make a splash with new 'content' and push under the rug things that make it bad its sad.
Them removing competitive points after each season felt really pointless, theres already not much to work towards since we don't have lot boxes, and can also only get 150 credits with challenges, so I know a lot of people who would work towards golden gun skins but now you've got to go even harder to get just one and all you get at the end of a season now is a Title almost nobody uses. But its ultimately harder to get one now that comp is just counterwatch and being focused by someone. End of season rewards felt like you were ACTUALLY being rewarded for your hard work at your rank.
The skins also ruined overwatch they got too expensive and you couldn’t just earn them anymore. Prob biggest hit to overwatch is GREED
The ban system is annoying especially in ranked match you can't disconnect you can't have a family emergency or anything
I also hate how they don’t replace whoever left in the match. It forces the team with 5 people to waste time and slug it out and stay until the other team fully leaves
I like Avril's opinion of hero balance, using Winston as a perfect example: heroes designed so that player skill limits the amount of impact they have with a character. Winston is accessible to new players but also viable at the highest ranks. People are punished for making mistakes and rewarded for playing him well. That's the balance of OW future if they want to figure out a way to make the casuals happy and have a good game.
Also, here is what I predict will happen in the next year. Aaron will have the 6 v 6 talk and announce that they'll create a special 6 v 6 gamemode for the community to try. It's the only thing he can do that won't upset everyone. People will try 6 v 6, the majority will prefer it, and the devs will convert the game. They may take forever to do it, but this modern dev team might be awesome and just full send it and fix it as they go. Sigma will need to be addressed before puting him in 6 v 6. He isn't good for the game in that environment.
I saw Stealthhacker quit this week too 😭
yeah I really wish they just reworked the assault maps they look so cool
Did they ever even explain what they were pretending to work on? There’s no way you pull devs from OW1 to OW2 to work on PVE and then only realize you don’t have the resources 4 years later😭
And bring back sym 2.0 cus I’m still mad🌚
They had to remove loot boxes because the whole children gambling in certain countries. What they should have done was remove buying loot boxes and just let them have to buy coins to buy the skins. Though that would be odd with loot boxes, and it wouldn't really work unless if loot boxes were somehow different.
To possibly counter double shield, they could Mauga + bastion + Symmetra + kiri+ Bap. It's a very risky play, but I think it could work. Or maybe Ram + Bastion + Junkrat+ Bap + Kiri. If ram puts his shield up fast and then switches to his nemesis form, it could work well, especially as a distraction.
I do think brig should be DPS given her kit isn't well, and she has to be close to be effective and for a healer that's not great when you can't have an escape plan. Her shield bash can only take her so far. Even with her whip, it doesn't take the enemy far or long to catch up.
The old system apparently, I think they removed it because of the inconsistency of “wrong rank” for players. It was true, however they could have maybe somehow change it a bit.
They need to focus on PVE and the lore, yet the price is ridiculous and replay isn't worth it, and I agree with you. To be honest, they don't have the resources because they don't know what they're doing or what to do with the current issue of OW. I do home 6 v 6 stays, and they wake up and listen to their player base.
Pharah's concussion is dumb for what they made. For Mauga it was good on paper, but ulting should feel powerful. Nerfing from I think it was 6 to 3 and from forgot how much you got to 100 is nuts. I do like playing Mauga, but these changes aren't great. The fact you can also shut down Mauga's cardiac overdrive is utterly useless, and 3 seconds is not along in that case. With 5 v 5 Mauga is hard to play but 6 v 6 I can see him go up the tier list even if it's just a little.
The rank system still feels like elo hell, and I can't get out of high silver/ mid/high-gold. I know I have a lot to work on, but it was just hard to get out of that mess. SR shouldn't be dropping hard from losing a game. It should be on just performance as a whole, and of course mostly on the person. SR should matter maybe a bit more on the top 500. But solo queue is hard because your team could be not the perfect match up and at times the enemy team is just filled with heavy good or hacking players, and it just is impossible to play the game.
They make too many skins because it's an only way to get funds. They shouldn't have gone free to play when people like us who paid for OW1. I don't get the points as legacy right now is useless because gold is now moved with the other currency. The game isn't fun and I only ever played comp to try to get the points to get the gold skins for some heroes, but 3k is insane and very grindy. Skin prices are overpriced, that is 100% true. Blizzard focuses too much on numbers and statistics than how people feel or for them testing it themselves. Game isn't fun and yea I too only play a few games and get off.
Everyone get on Marvel Rivals. Played hours of it yesterday with my og OW friend group and we had an absolute blast. It's still a closed beta, but it's 6v6 and feels like everything you'd want in Overwatch.
im so late…. hopefully Juno can bring some fun back
I sometimes take a break from this game because it can be boring…… I won’t be quitting for sure
btw i do think you should try apex and playing conduit, shes litteraly symmetra but better at so much points
Low diamond to low plat across roles is I where play after the reset.. it is the most uneven rank. One game where a dps goes 1-10 then next hame goes 40-3 lol. The rank system is bad and super grind. I haven't ranked up since season 9 too.
The skin system is horrible, having so many characters they only point to the same ones as always, why so many 20 dollar Kiri and Mercy skins? Do I have to wait 30 seasons for a mythical Symm skin? I hate it
21:24 what's screenclutter exactly...? 😅
What if they made it a choice, q for 6v6 or 5v5, then after testing you could implement that into competitive.
Also playing support is so miserable this season, been playing every supp but my mains lol.
A full mercy rework would be soo good.
I hate that they made every support so good at dps so now if you play tank, you just feed because you expect to be healed but on your death spectate, you see both healers out 1v1ing a dps while the rest of the team does around them.
Overwatch 2 should’ve been a separate game with the PVE story mode
Why dont they twek the ultimate gain in assault maps instead like make it slower
Stop asking for 6v6. Blizzard’s gonna give us 3 dps out of spite.
jade wepons tick me off so damm much because THAT IS NOT A JADE. JADE IS NOT GREEN SHIMMER!! ITS A GEMSTONE! 🤬👏🏼
They just need to bring 6v6 back and revert or rebalance some previous changes.
I miss the card voting!
Idk man ive been enjoying tracer so much i even bought the battle pass to get her Mythic skin and i swap to sojourn when the enemy full tanks
if only the community would learn something from the game they play for thousands of hours and actually try to work as a team they could come together and pressure the devs into 6v6. reverting changes has worked in league so why not in ow? if we could get like a petition or something going i think it would be possible. after returning from a long brake i am surprised with how many people still play this game i thought this game was already one foot in the grave. i mainly play in low sr silver-gold and one thing i cant get through my head is that for some reason it feels like it was easier to carry and to have an impact in 6v6 rather then 5v5. with 6v6 you had more chaos and opportunities to find a pick. and when you eventually get a pick it felt more impactful. often times i play tracer, i get a pick on the support and im thinking to myself ok this is a 5v4 now it should be an easy win but most of the times tanks and pharah have such a big impact that it doesnt even matter. playing dive on dps feels so unrewarding. also having so many hybrid supports that do dmg and healing equally are such bad game design. its so uninspiring to me that their solution to making support more then just healbots and giving them more impact is just flat damage. its the most primitive and uncreative solution. ilari is just a joke of a hero design. also vantage needs to removed. there is no saving that design. its just a self insert from a random tumblr "artist".
A big hit is no find group feature. I am agoraphobic and never leave my house. The only human interaction I get is games with people. I have no freinds on Xbox like people I play with often. It was the most fun time in my life when I could hop on overwatch and look at the groups. Join like 420 overwatch quick play, or sometimes it was karaoke party groups just fun people and laughs while playing. Now no one talks ever it’s so sad and it’s suppose to be a cooperative, communication game.