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@15:00 yeah that does make sense and if you buy the $200 real ones they might last you longer considering you spend $20 the last six months hypothetically then over the time you want to use some of you might spend $400 on the fake ones and they may not be as comfortable. Or I can give an example with Apple watches if I were to get the cheap $10 watchband, they lost an average between 3 to 6 months if I just keep on replacing them every time one broke because they tend to rip apparently then I would’ve spent over $400 and watch bands and the time I’ve had my watch well over $400 and just those $10 watch bands but I’ve had the same watch band that came with my Apple Watch and I got mine about two weeks after it launched needs a second an Apple Watch and still works perfectly to this day the watch band.
Okay but the premise of wearing Lolita, something that can be perceived as an alternative fashion, being worn to shop for a hollow shell of its former self--much like Spirit Halloween dresses itself up in the hollow shells of previously occupied buildings--is the most Spirit Halloween thing you can do in this situation.
When I’m on low budget and want to buy a lot of clothes, I just go to a damn thrift store. Like even if I don’t get anything, to me this is infinitely more fun than buying from a fast fashion brand because I get to look through tons of weird and original clothes
@@cursed-cat9126 TRUEE also super expensive stuff down like half a price!! I have a friend who found demonias for about 100 pln which is like 20 dollars!!! They were a little worn down but definitely still wearable
My mother found a cute loliable dress at the thrift store once. I wasn’t convinced at first but I put in a petticoat, wrist cuffs, headdress etc and it was actually nice
My very thrifty mother always instilled in me to "buy clothes that will be worn as many times as dollars they cost." The value of clothes is not be amassed but to be worn. 5 shein dresses are not better than a foxblood dress because you will ultimately get more wear out of a foxblood dress.
They also did a line with a gorgeous séance print, I own the skirt and it has a beautiful melancholic gothy vibe, it's spooky but also elegant. Lady Sloth is awesome!
I don't mind the "spooky doll" costumes as much when they're not cupcake cuts and much more clearly based off of actual antique porcelaine dolls, but then I touch the fabric and I'm back to full nope again LOL! I love Spirits for accessories, especially stockings and headpieces since it's much harder to find fun ones normally AND there's no shipping faff. I really really love your cosplay/character lolita for Chucky! That'd be a fun thing to wear to a convention too, and I love doing cosplay characters but in alternative fashion. Gives me new inspiration on how to use clothes I already have and helps prevent me buying more stuff just for a cosplay. Lots of fast fashion in cosplay these days with folks just buying premade costumes and constantly cycling through the "hip new characters" rather than reusing costumes, and alternative fashion folks doing takes on characters is a way to do less of that and it ends up being really stunning and unique too!
I find that Spirit Halloween is so good at accessorizing for Lolita especially if you're going for a theme. And my spirit Halloween they had I think it's called a peasant blouse in the steampunk section. There was a white version and a burgundy version. When I took it out I was so surprised at how soft it is and that it was thick so it's not see through. It's also cute enough to where I think that it would look good as Lolita blouse and I can easily pull the sleeves up to cover my shoulders. they also have it in plus size and the fact that it was only $20-$25 was a steal for me. Now I want to buy some white ones and dye them because I need blouses in other colors too 😅
yess! I love getting accessories from Halloween stores! I even get accessories from the 99c store sometimes, though those are usually just necklaces or earrings or something but they often are cute and kitschy enough that they fit with the sillier themes I like to go for
13:30 I love how you mentioned that! I'm a broke lolita and a lot of my dresses were under $200 and it was only recently that I got a major dream dress which i have to save and hunting for 5 years! it was an a lot but saving for a long time and then get it is so much more rewarding in my opinion This jsk will probably be with me as long as i am in the fashion ( its was chocolate rosette jsk in Lavender a very rare colorway for that print )
U know what sucks too? Is that people who cant spend that much on something end up usually having to pay more in the long run because the clothing they buy just does not last very long. For 1 expensive pair of shoes u will last 5 years at least, while cheaper ones fall apart after a year... and then you have to buy another one, and another one. So by the time those expensive ones are finished the cheaper ones have been replaced way more making the amount u spend on it way more.... but you literally don't have enough to buy the expensive one so its an endless cycle... TvT
Lor came prepared when this video inevitably breaches her regular audience. I think the last time I bought something new (not used) was work clothes I bought over a year ago. Although I regularly get second hand items, many of which where actually cheaper than those costumes.
I will say that a lot of Halloween stores have great head accessories that are appropriate for ouji fashion (most specifically those stupid mini hats) that are sometimes worth considering. A lot of them are somewhat similar if not the same as some of the taobao hats, however, they can also easily be altered with more lace or gems
"this reminds me of high school... IT FEELS TERRIBLE" that's a whole ass mood Edit; at 22:25 , I have to be the annoying person and ask where you got that halloween sugar cookie backpack, that is the cutest thing I've ever seen
I'm really happy that there's more outlets to find Lolita + share the history and culture around it! Im just dipping my toes into it now and I wouldn't know where to even start on my own.
Such thoughtful and important commentary regarding fast fashion, costumes, cultural appropriation, and thoughtful spending! Thank you for speaking up!! ❤ Also that last Chucky coord… too cute.
She’s doing gods work lol cause she wants what’s best for the lolita community 😂😂😂 Halloween I want to do oogie boogie I can pay 75 for a cheap costume Or spend 150 to get a custom one I can wear at con’s and beyond I’d rather spend the extra for longevity
Honestly, we really need to go back to how Halloween costumes were. Either repurposing existing clothes, like clothes that might be beyond wear into another piece. Or buying/making costumes with the explicit purpose of wearing it again. For instance, I wanted to go as cardinal Copia one year, so I made a Victorian bodice version of his coat so it can either be a costume or just a nicer bodice. People could even use this to build their cosplay options by making a new cosplay every year that you can later rewear to cons later in the year. There are so many ways to make Halloween costumes that don't waste money in the long run.
I'm wearing a Slyveon coord for Halloween. I found a sylveon headband for cheap on mecari and everything else are things that I already own because I tend to gravitate towards sweet peices. due to Sylveon sweet lolita pallette and ribbon motifs I feel like Sylveon is a very easy and cute inspiration coord. Another member of my comm has also previously done a sylveon inspired coord.
$65!?? Spirit is so insanely overpriced for the quality. At least the black dress isnt as bad but the pink one omfg. I like that sweater tho sometimes they occasionally have decent stuff lol I need a pink witch coord now too
Unexpectedly a fantastic video about ethical consumption I recently did a talk about this topic, and the amount of garments thrown out in a year was like 92 tons when I looked it up. I’m sure little to none of that was Lolita. Throwing away Lolita is unheard of. Basically, we should all wear Lolita. 😁
*not unexpected that Lor made a great video, unexpected that the topic of ethical consumption was so eloquently described in a video about Halloween stores
I was looking forward to seeing some silliness but got entirely engrossed by the intro discussion. Very important points there! I definitely think lolita has changed my approach to fashion, although I've always wanted to buy few but quality items, It's really got me seeing the worth of spending a bit more on something that I love a lot and will last. I bought my first lolita piece this time last year (since my bodyline days as a child over a decade ago), and took the plunge on a made to order dress in the summer, of course it's easier to wait for the long term gratification as an adult, and grateful for that, it's so easy to get swept up in consumer culture.
Excellent video! You really came prepared in case this left the EGL community. Really great points on fast fashion vs the secondhand nature of lolita dresses. The Chucky outfit was so well put together!!
The things you end up going back for are actually cute as hell like the way you style the jumper! The dusty witch hat is everything! The spooky mashup character omigoooood so cool 💕💕
It's been a couple years, but I'm STILL urked at my brother for his uncalled for comment that "yOu KnOw ThAt'S nOt HoW pEoPlE aCtUaLlY dReSs In JaPaN, rIgHt?", then REFUSING to understand the concept of counterfashion and that I wasn't doing it just to imitate Japan.
For me "no ethical consumption in capitalism" is more like "don't shame someone from buying something they needed from Amazon when you're buying from Walmart" sort of thing. Like big companies are all ethically dubious and I don't think anyone's supply chain is free enough from that garbage to be judging others.
I purchased the angel version of the halo crown you featured in the video and it surprised my comm to find out it’s from Spirit!! It’s quite sturdy + versatile for those ✨ethereal vibes✨, would def recommend to others who are on the fence of purchasing one themselves!
Spirit is actually great for the accessories! I got a really nice armor ring and a set of claw rings that are really nice and gothic and I went to a party (goths vs cowboys lol) and literally EVERYONE was obsessed with the rings and went insane when I told them where I got them from.
The pink witch hat is actually lovely! Dusty rose is the color I wear the most, it would make nice lolita-witch for halloween. the madonna hairband is also really cool! Love your Chucky version!!! also the Ghostface!
A year later I'm here to make a comment, but since I only recently discovered Lolita fashion it may seem off-topic. I never got the concept of wearing a costume only once on Halloween even as a kid. In fact, as a kid I repurposed Halloween costumes into casual wear or casual wear into Halloween costumes. I even once had a simple green dress that I usually used to sleep in and added accessories to create a Sophie the Swamp Witch(Neopets) costume, or took mermaid costume gloves and made them part of a daily outfit by matching them to a blue dress.
... as someone with the 2nd dress, adding an additional petty coat or those tulle tutus that they usually also sell under the skirt can help a lot with the shape and if you stuff the hat with grocery bags(or the arm things) you can reshape it to more of a decent hat shape which can be pretty cute. (also it's a good size to gently balance on your cat's head so they get a tiny cat sized top hat)
As a kid who has no Lolita dresses and is willing to buy a £60 one after saving up for almost a month, I didn’t even THINK about people throwing dresses away! 😂 If that thing tears I’m sewing it.
I have a neice that has done the Lolita fashion for years now it started her Senior year of High-school and she just turned 30 this year. She's not from a rich family in any way and has always worked really hard. She has a wonderful amount of fancy dresses and more everyday dresses, but she is very lucky enough to have a Grandmother, my Mother, who sews. I'm not talking about a person who just happens to sew and knows how to use a pattern, no my Mom is a wonderful seamstress. We have been trying to tell her for years that she should start an online store. I just wanted to point out that she wasn't always able to do this type of work, she started out with a old sewing machine from the 50s that she got second hand and took home economics in Jr high and High-school and she just started collecting fabrics and patterns from wherever she could. When I was born in the 70s I was allergic to polyester and she started making my clothes, since polyester was everywhere back then. But my point is, nowadays with the computer we have information at our fingertips, learning a skill like sewing is always a great thing, since we will always need to wear clothes, unless society collapse and we all live in warm climates. Sewing machines can be found relatively cheap and the older models are easier to use than the fancy ones to start out. Fabrics are everywhere and don't need to be on a bolt of cloth. Curtains, table cloths, and old clothes can be remade into new items. I've seen 2 old prom dresses from the 80s turned into an amazing Lolita dress and an old wedding gown with a fully embroidered train and veil made into a beautiful christening dress and baptism dress for a pair of sisters. But there Definitely was enough to make a adult sized dress. Of course the first attempt might not be magazine showpiece but the more you make, learn and explore, the better you can get.
Im not involved nor have any interest in wearing lolita but i ended up here somehow and you are one of the most based creators i have seen, love the bootlicler shaping and educated opinions
I always dress up every work day in October, this year I’m doing 20 costume coords! Some of them aren’t perfect since it was a bit rushed but I’m having lots of fun
As an ouji, I definitely have learned to cherish the items I have, and 90% of my collection is second hand from egl-adjacent resale sites. If you know your resources, you don’t have to spend $500+ on that new Alice and the Pirates vest 😭
I am going to do what I did last year and finish a dress that I had already planned to make. I am going to be a mushroom girl/lolita! 🍄 I really want to finish my first Lolita dress, it would have been finished soon but I injured myself in the process. I cannot wait to have a dress to go over my petticoat.
It just makes sense to make costumes from real clothes from the thrift store. Your skin will thank you. Also I’ve done the creepy Victorian doll costume and just used one of my Lolita dresses with some torn up tights, pigtail wig, and creepy make up. It was way better than $65 cheap costume and the only cost really was tearing up my tights because I had to buy new ones that weren’t torn for regular wear.
I want to live in a world where Lor doesn't have to explain that the book/films "Lolita" are not connected to Lolita. Lor should be entitled to financial compensation lol
me: finds an Angelic Pretty dress in the Goodwill Halloween section for under $20. It didn't fit me, but it went to a person who absolutely adores it. I'm a mom of 2, and I don't invest as much into my wardrobe as I would have 15 years ago.. however, if you're patient and don't mind the hunt, there's high quality cosplay pieces and such at Goodwill and St. Vincent DePaul from time to time, at least in the Pacific Northwest.. though it is like searching for a needle in a hay stack..💚
I finally bought my dream dress, 2 YEARS after I first saw it! It's the op version of The Holy Cross from Cel Lolita Studio, I just saw the listing, my size, favorite colorway, I'm just so happy it's crazy-
I had the same halloween costume from age 6 to 11 or 12 because my mum brought it big so it could be reused for more years. Another halloween I had was the binbag witch I had a witch's hat, broom long sleeve black top and black leggings with a binbag on top. It was alot of fun
loved this video!! this isn't the most related, but as i've grown up i've really grown to dislike how wasteful halloween costume shopping is in general. spending a bunch of money for stuff you'll never wear again sucks, and lots of us don't have the means to buy a new costume every year. i've made it a point to look at my wardrobe, figure out a costume, then only buy halloween pieces i WILL wear normally - and usually the halloween store is the last stop after thrifting. i know this method doesn't work for everyone as i personally enjoy a more emo/scene look but i've found lots of my simpler "costume" pieces actually look great in my wardrobe year-round.
Thank you so much for the bit about fast fashion mentality. You really put thinks into perspective when you said “1 great quality dress at 100, or FIVE dresses for 100!”. I’ve been trying to only thrift/support ethical businesses when shopping, but still get that temptation… you know? Anyways, you’ve inspired me to quit shopping at fast fashion stores. 😊 Thanks again, so much! !❤
seriously several of my favorite earrings for lolita i got from spirit halloween! nice to see other folks using stuff they got from spiti too lol. this video was a lot of fun ^_^
Your cupid madonna crown look really reminded me of Ali Project, specifically Arika’s golden look in the video for Seishoujo Ryouiki. There’s another look of hers it reminded me of, but I can’t remember exactly which one - but I was obsessed with her femme fatale lolita back in the late 00s!
i feel so called out, i was working on my ghostface costume while watching this :0 i think it's sad that people don't reuse costumes. people would think you were nuts if you bought normal clothing knowing you were only going to wear it once. i think it's fun to upgrade my costume every year :]
I don’t know about other kids, but my parents never bought me a costume and I still don’t buy costumes now, if I want a costume we had to make it whether that was from thrift stores or from scratch Edit: we also had to potentially plan 2 versions every year, one for school and one for trick or treating (or have 1 that could fit over a snowsuit) because it was usually below zero and snowed before Halloween haha 🇨🇦 We also weren’t driven around like some kids
You were in my dream last night! You were doing a stream with Dollightful and you didn't want her to call you Lor, you wanted her to call you by your streamer name which was something like xxThriifty_gurl1984. It was funny.
I have 2 Lolita inspired dresses (and both are oggie boogie inspired) and I'm wearing the pink one on Christmas and the burlap sack looking one on Krampus Noct. (December 5tn and 25th)
Lor could you do a review of one of my favorite Etsy Lolita shops (It’s so hard to find someone who does plus size Lolita, but they always pull through) On Etsy they are known as NightWhisper or NightWhisperLolita
Lol I did the opposite of this where I used lolita fashion to dress up as a character. It was like “closet cosplay” but using my lolita wardrobe, and I thought it fit the character well enough.
I’m doing a steampunk Lolita look for Halloween, but I’m making the dress with my mom based on a 600$ dress, I’m making the wings and I’m buying the glasses (and possibly gasmask) I love Lolita fashion and would wear it if I had the money, but I don’t :P but imma wear this dress often, wear the glasses often, wear the mask and wings often, it’s not a costume really, it’s more so an excuse to get candy and make/wear something I love
for what it's worth, I loved the intro and fast fashion segments of the video! would you consider doing a video assembling a look from items you find at thrift / secondhand shops?
Thank you for saying out loud all this, it's very important to make people responsible and aware of the impact of fast fashion...we need to consume more ethically, this is why I try to buy second hand as much as possible (and tend to feel guilty when I buy new- except if it's from a creator !) and buy qualoty material as much as possible ! PS : I think people shouldn't buy from Shein at all because they steal many designs from independant creators :(
The thriving resale market leading to clothes having many lives in lolita is actually a draw for me. Partly for sustainability and partly because if I don't like something or decide I don't want to wear it any more I can send it on to someone else and not the void of a thrift store donation and recoup most to all of what I spent. I just wish lolita brands would use real leather for bags and shoes so they would last. I love the style of lolita bags and shoes but want something that won't implode in like 5 years. I still pine for my old grey AatP Justine boots. And I loved how you incorporated some costume shop accessories into coords, it was fun. I have gotten some GREAT OTT fake nails from Spirit which I use for more extravagant coords too.
I like lolita clothing. I've learned to sew because the dresses are too short they need to be long or I can't wear them. Sewing the clothes is very satisfying also
I was wondering what material you would use for Lolita. Sense I don't have the money to buy one but knows how to sew and want to see if it's a style I would like to have.
i don't quite get your theory that the doll costumes are deliberately designed to emulate lolita fashion. like... as if that isn't just how a lot of old dolls (and therefore "creepy" dolls) are dressed lmao /lh
What If I’m dressing up as a character from a video game that we’re “traditional” garments (say Maya fey from ace attorney) is that one (I am not Japanese btw)
im not lolita but from the way ive seen it used i think it would mean something akin to poser. something that doesnt rlly follow lolita but maybe advertises itself as such?
Thanks for bringing up the cultures and costumes thing lor! Im native/indigenous and seeing costumes of vague "indian" costumes always makes me sick to my stomach 🤕 But for halloween, i plan on being a gothic lolita black cat! I have a coord with Winter Cemetary by Lady Sloth as the main piece and i have a large cat head that i plan to use with it
I do buy things from fast fashion companies but it's 1. Only if I can't find a high quality version of the same thing 2. Can't afford the higher quality. Period. 3. I take care of whatever item I've bought and actually keep it for a long time (aka not just buying whatever in vogue and throwing out the old stuff) But also I mostly buy my clothes from thrift stores so ... I'm probably not the demographic that you need to convince haha
Unrelated to the topic (the video was great and I'm reading some nice stories in the comment), is anyone picking up the very high sound in the microphone part ? It sounds like a dog wistle, or is it just my highen sensitivity ?
it's frustrating how much i associate melanie martinez with ex friends because so much of her merch is cute incidental items and i like some of her songs, but every time i see anything of her's i think of them LMAO they should NOT have this hold over me at this point in my life but she was basically their entire personalities which makes it hard to reconcile. great video! i looooved the chucky coord; i don't watch horror as a rule, but it was so precious and even i recognized who it was! i also love the idea of ghost face masks being used with really soft, cupcake lolita coords especially. that with a phone purse would be amazing to see, especially if the wearer replaced the black on the ghost face mask (both face + fabric) with a matching pink fabric. i hope to one day have at least one full outfit in lolita, have for years, but i just can't ever save up the money needed to get pieces. still hoping for one day!
Where did you get those shoes from Ma'am?! Those were so cute and your Chucky coord is the BEST!! I would wear that on a regular day on GP. I love everything about it!! It was so damn cute!!!
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dont knock the tiny hats- they were everywhere in 2007... reminds me of when i first bought stuff in harajuku.... go oldschool
@15:00 yeah that does make sense and if you buy the $200 real ones they might last you longer considering you spend $20 the last six months hypothetically then over the time you want to use some of you might spend $400 on the fake ones and they may not be as comfortable. Or I can give an example with Apple watches if I were to get the cheap $10 watchband, they lost an average between 3 to 6 months if I just keep on replacing them every time one broke because they tend to rip apparently then I would’ve spent over $400 and watch bands and the time I’ve had my watch well over $400 and just those $10 watch bands but I’ve had the same watch band that came with my Apple Watch and I got mine about two weeks after it launched needs a second an Apple Watch and still works perfectly to this day the watch band.
As a lacemaker, “this lace offends me” is very relatable.
Okay but the premise of wearing Lolita, something that can be perceived as an alternative fashion, being worn to shop for a hollow shell of its former self--much like Spirit Halloween dresses itself up in the hollow shells of previously occupied buildings--is the most Spirit Halloween thing you can do in this situation.
There's Clown Lolita, which is cute
And then there's 🤡 Lolita, which is a Lolita Halloween costume
When I’m on low budget and want to buy a lot of clothes, I just go to a damn thrift store. Like even if I don’t get anything, to me this is infinitely more fun than buying from a fast fashion brand because I get to look through tons of weird and original clothes
THIS, i literally saw a 1930's wedding dress at a thrift store. You will not believe how many party dresses people give away
@@cursed-cat9126 TRUEE also super expensive stuff down like half a price!! I have a friend who found demonias for about 100 pln which is like 20 dollars!!! They were a little worn down but definitely still wearable
@@exeal440 I’m so jealous of them lol. I really want a pair of demonias but I can’t afford them.
My mother found a cute loliable dress at the thrift store once. I wasn’t convinced at first but I put in a petticoat, wrist cuffs, headdress etc and it was actually nice
My very thrifty mother always instilled in me to "buy clothes that will be worn as many times as dollars they cost." The value of clothes is not be amassed but to be worn. 5 shein dresses are not better than a foxblood dress because you will ultimately get more wear out of a foxblood dress.
That Lady Sloth Spooky Macarons print makes me so happy to see. It's such a perfect "Halloween" print!
I have it in lavender as well! It’s truly perfect for this season ☺️🎃
They also did a line with a gorgeous séance print, I own the skirt and it has a beautiful melancholic gothy vibe, it's spooky but also elegant. Lady Sloth is awesome!
@@tsunaida Me too! It’s my favorite colorway!
I don't mind the "spooky doll" costumes as much when they're not cupcake cuts and much more clearly based off of actual antique porcelaine dolls, but then I touch the fabric and I'm back to full nope again LOL! I love Spirits for accessories, especially stockings and headpieces since it's much harder to find fun ones normally AND there's no shipping faff.
I really really love your cosplay/character lolita for Chucky! That'd be a fun thing to wear to a convention too, and I love doing cosplay characters but in alternative fashion. Gives me new inspiration on how to use clothes I already have and helps prevent me buying more stuff just for a cosplay. Lots of fast fashion in cosplay these days with folks just buying premade costumes and constantly cycling through the "hip new characters" rather than reusing costumes, and alternative fashion folks doing takes on characters is a way to do less of that and it ends up being really stunning and unique too!
The Chucky-lita look is so fresh!!!
I find that Spirit Halloween is so good at accessorizing for Lolita especially if you're going for a theme. And my spirit Halloween they had I think it's called a peasant blouse in the steampunk section. There was a white version and a burgundy version. When I took it out I was so surprised at how soft it is and that it was thick so it's not see through. It's also cute enough to where I think that it would look good as Lolita blouse and I can easily pull the sleeves up to cover my shoulders. they also have it in plus size and the fact that it was only $20-$25 was a steal for me. Now I want to buy some white ones and dye them because I need blouses in other colors too 😅
YES!! Spirit halloween and halloween are great for accessories. That's why I love it
yess! I love getting accessories from Halloween stores! I even get accessories from the 99c store sometimes, though those are usually just necklaces or earrings or something but they often are cute and kitschy enough that they fit with the sillier themes I like to go for
I own that blouse in burgundy for my pirate costume and I wear it with lolita occasionally. It's not amazing but it's cute and versatile
13:30
I love how you mentioned that! I'm a broke lolita and a lot of my dresses were under $200 and it was only recently that I got a major dream dress which i have to save and hunting for 5 years! it was an a lot but saving for a long time and then get it is so much more rewarding in my opinion
This jsk will probably be with me as long as i am in the fashion
( its was chocolate rosette jsk in Lavender a very rare colorway for that print )
YESS overconsumption is such a BIG problem, and not only in the fashion community. Thank you for talking about this matter and raise awareness!
U know what sucks too? Is that people who cant spend that much on something end up usually having to pay more in the long run because the clothing they buy just does not last very long. For 1 expensive pair of shoes u will last 5 years at least, while cheaper ones fall apart after a year... and then you have to buy another one, and another one. So by the time those expensive ones are finished the cheaper ones have been replaced way more making the amount u spend on it way more.... but you literally don't have enough to buy the expensive one so its an endless cycle... TvT
Lor came prepared when this video inevitably breaches her regular audience.
I think the last time I bought something new (not used) was work clothes I bought over a year ago. Although I regularly get second hand items, many of which where actually cheaper than those costumes.
I will say that a lot of Halloween stores have great head accessories that are appropriate for ouji fashion (most specifically those stupid mini hats) that are sometimes worth considering. A lot of them are somewhat similar if not the same as some of the taobao hats, however, they can also easily be altered with more lace or gems
"this reminds me of high school... IT FEELS TERRIBLE" that's a whole ass mood
Edit; at 22:25 , I have to be the annoying person and ask where you got that halloween sugar cookie backpack, that is the cutest thing I've ever seen
Lor: Lolita Fashion is not Doll Fashion
Also Lor: makes a Chucky Doll Cord
I'm really happy that there's more outlets to find Lolita + share the history and culture around it! Im just dipping my toes into it now and I wouldn't know where to even start on my own.
Such thoughtful and important commentary regarding fast fashion, costumes, cultural appropriation, and thoughtful spending! Thank you for speaking up!! ❤
Also that last Chucky coord… too cute.
She’s doing gods work lol cause she wants what’s best for the lolita community 😂😂😂 Halloween I want to do oogie boogie I can pay 75 for a cheap costume Or spend 150 to get a custom one I can wear at con’s and beyond I’d rather spend the extra for longevity
Same
Honestly, we really need to go back to how Halloween costumes were. Either repurposing existing clothes, like clothes that might be beyond wear into another piece. Or buying/making costumes with the explicit purpose of wearing it again. For instance, I wanted to go as cardinal Copia one year, so I made a Victorian bodice version of his coat so it can either be a costume or just a nicer bodice. People could even use this to build their cosplay options by making a new cosplay every year that you can later rewear to cons later in the year. There are so many ways to make Halloween costumes that don't waste money in the long run.
I'm wearing a Slyveon coord for Halloween. I found a sylveon headband for cheap on mecari and everything else are things that I already own because I tend to gravitate towards sweet peices. due to Sylveon sweet lolita pallette and ribbon motifs I feel like Sylveon is a very easy and cute inspiration coord. Another member of my comm has also previously done a sylveon inspired coord.
$65!?? Spirit is so insanely overpriced for the quality. At least the black dress isnt as bad but the pink one omfg. I like that sweater tho sometimes they occasionally have decent stuff lol
I need a pink witch coord now too
Yeah, I found a super cute wolf hat at one once, it's part of my winter wardrobe now as it's surprisingly warm
Unexpectedly a fantastic video about ethical consumption
I recently did a talk about this topic, and the amount of garments thrown out in a year was like 92 tons when I looked it up. I’m sure little to none of that was Lolita. Throwing away Lolita is unheard of. Basically, we should all wear Lolita. 😁
*not unexpected that Lor made a great video, unexpected that the topic of ethical consumption was so eloquently described in a video about Halloween stores
I love how you explain that being able to buy certain clothes is a privilege
I was looking forward to seeing some silliness but got entirely engrossed by the intro discussion. Very important points there! I definitely think lolita has changed my approach to fashion, although I've always wanted to buy few but quality items, It's really got me seeing the worth of spending a bit more on something that I love a lot and will last. I bought my first lolita piece this time last year (since my bodyline days as a child over a decade ago), and took the plunge on a made to order dress in the summer, of course it's easier to wait for the long term gratification as an adult, and grateful for that, it's so easy to get swept up in consumer culture.
Excellent video! You really came prepared in case this left the EGL community. Really great points on fast fashion vs the secondhand nature of lolita dresses. The Chucky outfit was so well put together!!
I love how she showed what to use and how to find accessories from more accessible stores. Even if the main oieces can't be found lol
The things you end up going back for are actually cute as hell like the way you style the jumper! The dusty witch hat is everything! The spooky mashup character omigoooood so cool 💕💕
It's been a couple years, but I'm STILL urked at my brother for his uncalled for comment that "yOu KnOw ThAt'S nOt HoW pEoPlE aCtUaLlY dReSs In JaPaN, rIgHt?", then REFUSING to understand the concept of counterfashion and that I wasn't doing it just to imitate Japan.
Same with my brother, he’s like are you trying to be a little girl, or the Japanese people will take offense to that.
This is such a good video, Lor!! Great job. And thank you Native for continuing to sponsor my favorite Lolita creator
For me "no ethical consumption in capitalism" is more like "don't shame someone from buying something they needed from Amazon when you're buying from Walmart" sort of thing. Like big companies are all ethically dubious and I don't think anyone's supply chain is free enough from that garbage to be judging others.
I absolutely LOVED this video! And we need more Ludicrous Lor!😂
I love all of the looks you did for this (the Chucky one is so creative!), so much inspiration!
I purchased the angel version of the halo crown you featured in the video and it surprised my comm to find out it’s from Spirit!! It’s quite sturdy + versatile for those ✨ethereal vibes✨, would def recommend to others who are on the fence of purchasing one themselves!
Spirit is actually great for the accessories! I got a really nice armor ring and a set of claw rings that are really nice and gothic and I went to a party (goths vs cowboys lol) and literally EVERYONE was obsessed with the rings and went insane when I told them where I got them from.
The pink witch hat is actually lovely! Dusty rose is the color I wear the most, it would make nice lolita-witch for halloween. the madonna hairband is also really cool!
Love your Chucky version!!! also the Ghostface!
I really like you essay/ explanation videos. Thank you for the intro before trying on costumes.
A year later I'm here to make a comment, but since I only recently discovered Lolita fashion it may seem off-topic.
I never got the concept of wearing a costume only once on Halloween even as a kid. In fact, as a kid I repurposed Halloween costumes into casual wear or casual wear into Halloween costumes.
I even once had a simple green dress that I usually used to sleep in and added accessories to create a Sophie the Swamp Witch(Neopets) costume, or took mermaid costume gloves and made them part of a daily outfit by matching them to a blue dress.
... as someone with the 2nd dress, adding an additional petty coat or those tulle tutus that they usually also sell under the skirt can help a lot with the shape and if you stuff the hat with grocery bags(or the arm things) you can reshape it to more of a decent hat shape which can be pretty cute. (also it's a good size to gently balance on your cat's head so they get a tiny cat sized top hat)
I love that Miss Danger look! That crown and the contact lenses look excellent!
As a kid who has no Lolita dresses and is willing to buy a £60 one after saving up for almost a month, I didn’t even THINK about people throwing dresses away! 😂 If that thing tears I’m sewing it.
The blonde wig you have looks so good. It looks so soft and the fluffy curls. ❤
I have a neice that has done the Lolita fashion for years now it started her Senior year of High-school and she just turned 30 this year. She's not from a rich family in any way and has always worked really hard. She has a wonderful amount of fancy dresses and more everyday dresses, but she is very lucky enough to have a Grandmother, my Mother, who sews. I'm not talking about a person who just happens to sew and knows how to use a pattern, no my Mom is a wonderful seamstress. We have been trying to tell her for years that she should start an online store. I just wanted to point out that she wasn't always able to do this type of work, she started out with a old sewing machine from the 50s that she got second hand and took home economics in Jr high and High-school and she just started collecting fabrics and patterns from wherever she could. When I was born in the 70s I was allergic to polyester and she started making my clothes, since polyester was everywhere back then. But my point is, nowadays with the computer we have information at our fingertips, learning a skill like sewing is always a great thing, since we will always need to wear clothes, unless society collapse and we all live in warm climates. Sewing machines can be found relatively cheap and the older models are easier to use than the fancy ones to start out. Fabrics are everywhere and don't need to be on a bolt of cloth. Curtains, table cloths, and old clothes can be remade into new items. I've seen 2 old prom dresses from the 80s turned into an amazing Lolita dress and an old wedding gown with a fully embroidered train and veil made into a beautiful christening dress and baptism dress for a pair of sisters. But there Definitely was enough to make a adult sized dress. Of course the first attempt might not be magazine showpiece but the more you make, learn and explore, the better you can get.
THAT WITCH HAT AHHHH I NEED IT. It's so cute ;~;
Im not involved nor have any interest in wearing lolita but i ended up here somehow and you are one of the most based creators i have seen, love the bootlicler shaping and educated opinions
I always dress up every work day in October, this year I’m doing 20 costume coords! Some of them aren’t perfect since it was a bit rushed but I’m having lots of fun
Cool. I've done five Halloween costumes and looks so far with five more to go.
Keep talking Lor, I love all the thoughts
As an ouji, I definitely have learned to cherish the items I have, and 90% of my collection is second hand from egl-adjacent resale sites. If you know your resources, you don’t have to spend $500+ on that new Alice and the Pirates vest 😭
I am going to do what I did last year and finish a dress that I had already planned to make. I am going to be a mushroom girl/lolita! 🍄 I really want to finish my first Lolita dress, it would have been finished soon but I injured myself in the process. I cannot wait to have a dress to go over my petticoat.
It just makes sense to make costumes from real clothes from the thrift store. Your skin will thank you. Also I’ve done the creepy Victorian doll costume and just used one of my Lolita dresses with some torn up tights, pigtail wig, and creepy make up. It was way better than $65 cheap costume and the only cost really was tearing up my tights because I had to buy new ones that weren’t torn for regular wear.
I want to live in a world where Lor doesn't have to explain that the book/films "Lolita" are not connected to Lolita. Lor should be entitled to financial compensation lol
me: finds an Angelic Pretty dress in the Goodwill Halloween section for under $20.
It didn't fit me, but it went to a person who absolutely adores it.
I'm a mom of 2, and I don't invest as much into my wardrobe as I would have 15 years ago.. however, if you're patient and don't mind the hunt, there's high quality cosplay pieces and such at Goodwill and St. Vincent DePaul from time to time, at least in the Pacific Northwest.. though it is like searching for a needle in a hay stack..💚
Oh my god you are so lucky 😭😭😭 A girl I knew found a BTSSB skirt at Savers. I'm still hoping it'll happen to me one day
I finally bought my dream dress, 2 YEARS after I first saw it! It's the op version of The Holy Cross from Cel Lolita Studio, I just saw the listing, my size, favorite colorway, I'm just so happy it's crazy-
The purple halloween style dress you have in this video is gorgeous i reallt want it 😭
I had the same halloween costume from age 6 to 11 or 12 because my mum brought it big so it could be reused for more years. Another halloween I had was the binbag witch I had a witch's hat, broom long sleeve black top and black leggings with a binbag on top. It was alot of fun
Lolita ghostface is absolutely sending me lmao that’s such a good idea 😭😂
I missed your videos Lor
seeing the example of a costume at 1:09 and immediately going "ah. canada from hetalia."
loved this video!! this isn't the most related, but as i've grown up i've really grown to dislike how wasteful halloween costume shopping is in general. spending a bunch of money for stuff you'll never wear again sucks, and lots of us don't have the means to buy a new costume every year. i've made it a point to look at my wardrobe, figure out a costume, then only buy halloween pieces i WILL wear normally - and usually the halloween store is the last stop after thrifting. i know this method doesn't work for everyone as i personally enjoy a more emo/scene look but i've found lots of my simpler "costume" pieces actually look great in my wardrobe year-round.
Thank you so much for the bit about fast fashion mentality. You really put thinks into perspective when you said “1 great quality dress at 100, or FIVE dresses for 100!”. I’ve been trying to only thrift/support ethical businesses when shopping, but still get that temptation… you know?
Anyways, you’ve inspired me to quit shopping at fast fashion stores. 😊
Thanks again, so much! !❤
seriously several of my favorite earrings for lolita i got from spirit halloween! nice to see other folks using stuff they got from spiti too lol. this video was a lot of fun ^_^
Your cupid madonna crown look really reminded me of Ali Project, specifically Arika’s golden look in the video for Seishoujo Ryouiki. There’s another look of hers it reminded me of, but I can’t remember exactly which one - but I was obsessed with her femme fatale lolita back in the late 00s!
i feel so called out, i was working on my ghostface costume while watching this :0 i think it's sad that people don't reuse costumes. people would think you were nuts if you bought normal clothing knowing you were only going to wear it once. i think it's fun to upgrade my costume every year :]
I don’t know about other kids, but my parents never bought me a costume and I still don’t buy costumes now, if I want a costume we had to make it whether that was from thrift stores or from scratch
Edit: we also had to potentially plan 2 versions every year, one for school and one for trick or treating (or have 1 that could fit over a snowsuit) because it was usually below zero and snowed before Halloween haha 🇨🇦
We also weren’t driven around like some kids
LOLITA GHOST FACE IS EVERYTHING
What is the purple jsk Lor is wearing in the intro? I can't find it on loliLibrary 😭
It looks like the Sleeping Monster jsk by Royal Princess Alice.
You were in my dream last night! You were doing a stream with Dollightful and you didn't want her to call you Lor, you wanted her to call you by your streamer name which was something like xxThriifty_gurl1984. It was funny.
This is so funny but it makes so much sense
Omg I saw a lolita plague doctor at ren fest and I almost died her outfit was sooo cute 💙💙💙💙
I have 2 Lolita inspired dresses (and both are oggie boogie inspired) and I'm wearing the pink one on Christmas and the burlap sack looking one on Krampus Noct. (December 5tn and 25th)
Also small costume shops have way higher quality items and you can use certain items in different ways
Lor could you do a review of one of my favorite Etsy Lolita shops
(It’s so hard to find someone who does plus size Lolita, but they always pull through)
On Etsy they are known as NightWhisper or NightWhisperLolita
Lol I did the opposite of this where I used lolita fashion to dress up as a character. It was like “closet cosplay” but using my lolita wardrobe, and I thought it fit the character well enough.
I’m doing a steampunk Lolita look for Halloween, but I’m making the dress with my mom based on a 600$ dress, I’m making the wings and I’m buying the glasses (and possibly gasmask) I love Lolita fashion and would wear it if I had the money, but I don’t :P but imma wear this dress often, wear the glasses often, wear the mask and wings often, it’s not a costume really, it’s more so an excuse to get candy and make/wear something I love
for what it's worth, I loved the intro and fast fashion segments of the video! would you consider doing a video assembling a look from items you find at thrift / secondhand shops?
I’m still working, and saving up for my first coord, and collecting the pieces for the coord.
I bought a Frankie Stein cropped top from spirit Halloween and wear it regularly
I am in love with it
Thank you for saying out loud all this, it's very important to make people responsible and aware of the impact of fast fashion...we need to consume more ethically, this is why I try to buy second hand as much as possible (and tend to feel guilty when I buy new- except if it's from a creator !) and buy qualoty material as much as possible !
PS : I think people shouldn't buy from Shein at all because they steal many designs from independant creators :(
The thriving resale market leading to clothes having many lives in lolita is actually a draw for me. Partly for sustainability and partly because if I don't like something or decide I don't want to wear it any more I can send it on to someone else and not the void of a thrift store donation and recoup most to all of what I spent. I just wish lolita brands would use real leather for bags and shoes so they would last. I love the style of lolita bags and shoes but want something that won't implode in like 5 years. I still pine for my old grey AatP Justine boots.
And I loved how you incorporated some costume shop accessories into coords, it was fun. I have gotten some GREAT OTT fake nails from Spirit which I use for more extravagant coords too.
I like lolita clothing. I've learned to sew because the dresses are too short they need to be long or I can't wear them. Sewing the clothes is very satisfying also
I was wondering what material you would use for Lolita. Sense I don't have the money to buy one but knows how to sew and want to see if it's a style I would like to have.
the chucky one was so cute and now i want to see a lolita look for M3gan
m3gan ik her that would be cute qwq
I am working on a moth man and a Kiki’s Delivery Service coord, and this gave me some ideas :)
i adore that chucky themed one, its so cute but work so damn well
That chucky look was amazing! loved the video! 😁
i don't quite get your theory that the doll costumes are deliberately designed to emulate lolita fashion. like... as if that isn't just how a lot of old dolls (and therefore "creepy" dolls) are dressed lmao /lh
What If I’m dressing up as a character from a video game that we’re “traditional” garments (say Maya fey from ace attorney) is that one (I am not Japanese btw)
I love love love the way native smells but I need clinical protection deodorant so unfortunately they do not work for me ;c also love this video
I wore the costume shown at 18:05 this year and now I feel so bad about it 💀
horror movie villains but Lolita might be the greatest thing I’ve ever seen
I actually clicked on the video for the understanding lolita fashion value
LOR. I love your Chucky shirt and have you ever seen the show? It's so good it continues with cult of Chunky
Um
Lor? Or anyone? What's an Ita? (I am trying to get into the fashion or at least yame kawaii or some kind of J or alt fashiom)
im not lolita but from the way ive seen it used i think it would mean something akin to poser. something that doesnt rlly follow lolita but maybe advertises itself as such?
Thanks for bringing up the cultures and costumes thing lor! Im native/indigenous and seeing costumes of vague "indian" costumes always makes me sick to my stomach 🤕
But for halloween, i plan on being a gothic lolita black cat! I have a coord with Winter Cemetary by Lady Sloth as the main piece and i have a large cat head that i plan to use with it
I do buy things from fast fashion companies but it's
1. Only if I can't find a high quality version of the same thing
2. Can't afford the higher quality. Period.
3. I take care of whatever item I've bought and actually keep it for a long time (aka not just buying whatever in vogue and throwing out the old stuff)
But also I mostly buy my clothes from thrift stores so ... I'm probably not the demographic that you need to convince haha
And of course I still have my first lolita dress that I bought like..... 8 years ago? Still wear it regularly lol
20:48 looks just like Sundrop from FNAF!!
Unrelated to the topic (the video was great and I'm reading some nice stories in the comment), is anyone picking up the very high sound in the microphone part ? It sounds like a dog wistle, or is it just my highen sensitivity ?
it's frustrating how much i associate melanie martinez with ex friends because so much of her merch is cute incidental items and i like some of her songs, but every time i see anything of her's i think of them LMAO they should NOT have this hold over me at this point in my life but she was basically their entire personalities which makes it hard to reconcile. great video! i looooved the chucky coord; i don't watch horror as a rule, but it was so precious and even i recognized who it was! i also love the idea of ghost face masks being used with really soft, cupcake lolita coords especially. that with a phone purse would be amazing to see, especially if the wearer replaced the black on the ghost face mask (both face + fabric) with a matching pink fabric. i hope to one day have at least one full outfit in lolita, have for years, but i just can't ever save up the money needed to get pieces. still hoping for one day!
"It makes me nostalgic for High School...it feels terrible" Enough said, LOL. BTW, I love your little Pennywise moment.
20:39 I’m going nuts over this coordinate bro
(Praying I spelled coordinate correctly haha)
Where did you get those shoes from Ma'am?! Those were so cute and your Chucky coord is the BEST!! I would wear that on a regular day on GP. I love everything about it!! It was so damn cute!!!